Would you ever do Trade trees? I know there is 'a guy' out here who has done the more popular trade trees, but he's left so many out as well and he said he wont be doing them for a long time now. Heck, I'd be glad to do research for you if necessary.
@@legroshiphop well this as mentioned was about trading the physical draft pick itself and not the person selected with it, or else this video would be 2 hours long haha. Lindros was already selected before he got traded which is why I didn’t include him.
Burkies magic to trade for the second and third to get both of the Sedins is, by far, the best move ever made by a Canucks GM. It’s gotta be on the list of best moves ever.
@@primekiller5729 agreed. Burke did a good job to get the two best players available and they formed the core of the Canucks franchise for a decade or so. Also, as a side note, my son and I were in attendance when they played their last game in Vancouver against Arizona and it was the most emotional hockey moment I’ve ever experience in person. My little guy was about 8 at the time and we just sat in the stands for 20 minutes after the game ended and cheered and cried along with 18,000 other people. Pretty magical!
@@yoholmes273 of the tens of thousands of players who have struggled to make the NHL over the last hundred or so years a majority of them haven’t won a Stanley Cup. Most of them won’t win Gold Medals or the Hart Trophy or the King Clancy or the Art Ross or the Ted Lindsay but the twins did that. Everybody wants a cup but I guarantee they have no regrets when it comes to their career. Also, there was a time that they easily could have asked for a trade to go to a contender rather than round out their career on a bottom feeder like Vancouver at that time but they didn’t. That says a lot about their character.
In 1998 I dated a girl that went to SUNY Potsdam. One night while she and her roommates were out I stayed home to watch a random hockey game on ESPN 2. They had a Swedish exchange student that lived with them. A very nice young woman named Olga. Well she came home that night with her boyfriend Peter (also Swedish). He saw me watching the game and said “ my brothers play hockey, they’re really good. They’re twins”. I was like cool man that’s awesome. Peter said, “ no I don’t think you understand. They’re really good and are going to be drafted into the NHL.” The internet wasn’t as prevalent as it is today so I couldn’t exactly look it up. Well that was Peter Sedin, Henrik and Daniels brother. He was a great guy. I was very happy for him.
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I feel bad for Stefan. So many different things went wrong. Poor guy had his most embarrassing moment live on in infamy and realistically speaking, it’s not his fault the rest of his team forgot to play defense after the play
Fun fact about the Vincent lecavalier one, the Colorado avalanche offered all four of their first round picks that year to Tampa Bay to move up and draft lecavalier, and it would have gone through but Tampa said they also wanted Peter forsberg as well so it didn't wind up happening and instead the avalanche drafted Alex Tanguay, Martin Skoula, Robyn Regehr, and Scott "The sheriff" Parker
@@f.f5771 if it had just been trading those four players straight up for Lecavalier, i would have been fine with that but when they said they wanted forsberg too that's when it becomes way too much
The 1976 trade for the Rockies first was reportedly made with the intentions of drafting Wayne Gretzky had he became draft eligible. Pollock was really playing 4D chess
@@AshtrayAnnie When do you think people started to notice Connor McDavid? When he got to the OHL? No, he was always the best player at every level he played and people were already talking about him in bantam. Same thing for Gretzky. At 15 he was already playing with 20 year olds and averaging 2 points per game. It's very possible that Pollock saw him and made the trade with him in mind, considering he did something similar with Lafleur before and was way ahead of everyone else in terms of scouting at that time.
@@emileplante go back and read what you said man. I've been a scout for many years and know how the scouting system works. You said the Rockies traded in 76 with the intentions to draft Gretzky when available. That's still 2-3 years from his draft year (also not to forget the draft rules were changed in 79). So technically he would have been an 81 draft under the old rules.
The Sharks getting Brad Stuart after trading away the picks that ended up being Vincent Lecavalier and David Legwand actually benefited the franchise a few years later. They packaged Stuart, Sturm, and Primeau and traded them to Boston and got Jumbo Joe Thornton. Bonus fact: the Sharks also received a 2nd round pick in the same trade that had them trade the 1st round pick that ended up being Legwand to Nashville. That 2nd round pick was Jonathan Cheechoo, who benefited big time from having Joe Thornton as a linemate in 2005-06.
No Leon Durham? He pulled off the exact same thing as Buck. BTW, blame the million dollar players over a fan every single time. 3 more innings in that game and another full game and they still choked. If athletes can't put that stuff out of their heads an move on then they don't deserve those huge paychecks.
More likely, Lafleur would have went to Oakland, turned out for the Seals as a monumental bust, they would have traded him after two years for some scrub, and he then would have turned into the star everyone expected, only for his new team. That was how the Seals operated.
Brian Burke also picked Morgan Rielly 5th overall in 2012. The teams ahead of him picked Nail Yakupov, Ryan Murray, Alex Galchenyuk and Griffin Reinhart. Say what you will about Burke, but he can find talent in some pretty terrible draft classes
I'm conflicted when it comes to Burke because of the year before, when he traded the 30th and 39th picks to move up to 22nd to pick Tyler Biggs. Biggs never played in the NHL and retired from IHL life in 2019. The 30th pick becomes Rickard Rakell, and the 39th becomes John Gibson.
You forgot to mention that Pollock seeing that the Golden Seals might not finished last, exanges an established players to the LA kings in hope that will help them pass the Golden Seals in the standing (wich they finally did) and so securing Lafleur as the first round pick (Detroit ending up picking Marcel Dionne at #2) Pollock was taking advantages of new GMs that didn't really know what they were doing with new franchises and in 1967 when the league expend with 6 new teams, the old teams were allowed to protect almost all their nhlers and ahlers so it left only old or amateur player for those franchise to start with, no wonder they suck until the mid 70's
Don't forget that Montreal also got the Seals second round pick that same draft year. That pick was the first pick in the second round which turned into Larry Robinson (and to thing that notorious bad boy Steve Durbano was selected ahead of Larry Robinson).
9:54 - The best quote I ever heard about Patrik Stefan. Wasn't there concern about all the concussions he had playing for the Las Vegas Thunder in the IHL?
Fun fact about Stefan missing that goal, it lead to Edmonton game tying goal which gave them a point and kept them out of the draft lottery and put Chicago in the lottery, Chicago won the lottery and drafted Patrick Kane
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Does anyone have any evidence that Denis Savard was being considered for the #1 pick in 1980? I just remember the choice being between Wickenheiser and Dave Babych, which Montreal got wrong in a rare misstep for them at the time. Also, Gord Kluzak got picked #1 because of a pre-draft trade with the North Stars that had them agree not to pick Brian Bellows. Why they didn't just swap picks is beyond me.
Exactly right; those 2 were the consensus 1 and 2; undersized players like Savard were afterthoughts ( despite his French Canadian status ). I'm sure Coffey was absolutely not a consideration.
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Nathan Horton and the Sedin twins were both instrumental in the Bruins' 2011 Stanley Cup win. Horton, after getting a severe concussion, became the guy in the locker room who would rally the Bruins to victory. Whether it be dumping Boston water onto the Vancouver ice or having his agent, Bobby Orr, waving the #18 banner before game 6. The Sedins just faded into the background. I remember one of them being punched repeatedly in the face by Brad Marchand and looking at the referee for a call. It was moves like that that caused Mike Milbury to famously refer to the Sedins as Thelma and Louise.
What 2011 Bruins Stanley Cup win are you referring to? I don't remember such a thing. I do remember the Sedin brothers. They were absolute icons, along with a select few others like Ovi and Sid they were the face of the sport.
@Uto ESC uh, the one where the Bruins skated around the ice in Vancouver with Lord Stanley's chalice after they shut the Canucks out 4-0. The one when angry Canucks fans rioted, that one. The Sedins got knocked around, and no one protected them. They may have been good finesse players but no cups.
@@kencoakley3959 I really don't know, I'm not an avid fan of the sport. You understand my point hopefully. What may have been very important for you and something you like to gloat about is something others have no memory of. and the gloating looks absolutely silly then The Sedins were iconic, they are fondly remembered. For Boston I can only think of Chara, a player of similar status. Absolute legend. Some random cup win? Most people really don't care and you're just spreading bad vibes when you go slag the Sedins off because they didn't win that cup.
A few things that need to be said about the Habs stealing the #1 pick for 1980. 1. The trade was made in 1977-78, not 1976. 2. The deal was made when the NHL draft was in a chaotic state of flux due to the WHA raiding junior clubs of players as young as 15 as they had no age limits unlike the NHL. 3. Like with Guy in 1971, Pollack had a player in mind based on the NHL's draft rules at the time. (They had lowered their age limit from 22 to 21 to 20 and now to 19. It would lower yet again after the NHL/WHA merger a year later.) The man he wanted was Soo Greyhounds' wonder kid Wayne Gretzky who would be eligible in 1980 and likely the consensus #1 pick if he stayed in junior in the event of the WHA folding. The problem was the WHA survived another year and they snagged Wayne when he was 17 meaning he would NOT be eligible for the draft so the Habs needed to start from 0 when that draft took place. 4. Pollack's reign as Canadiens' GM ended soon after this trade took place and his successor, Grundman, trainwrecked the pick drafting for a need instead of the best player on the board.
.* The Colorado Rockies' first round pick went to the Montreal Canadiens as the result of a trade on September 13, 1976 that sent Ron Andruff, Sean Shanahan and the 19th overall pick to the Colorado Rockies in exchange for this pick.
No one will ever convince me that the Crosby to Pittsburgh lottery was not crooked.he went to the American team in the most danger of folding or moving.. Blackberry owner Jim Balsillie was actively trying to buy the Pens and move them to Hamilton. Bettman was absolutely not going to allow that to happen.
@@lincolnmaceachern2410 Bettman himself is a crook . He disallowed players going to last olympics only as pure meanness when it was actually possible. He also did everything to block teams moving to canada again.
Just some quick food for thought…. Take a look at scoring records set by Gretzky. Someone hyped as the MJ of hockey when comparing their scoring stats to other players in the league is comparing a superstar(Gretzky) to a pedestrian (Jordan) in comparison. Jordan was phenomenal. Gretzky’s scoring records will likely never be touched.
I always wondered what teams would've been like if they could never trade their draft picks until they were drafted. What would teams have been like then....
Infact, Lindros, Sakic, Yzerman, Sean Tornado, Wayne Gretzky, The Lemieux Brothers Mario and Claude, Jaromir Jagr, and the flying frenchman Cam Neeley.
You still did not give Nathan Horton enough respect. He had six straight 22+ goal seasons and had 36 points in 43 playoff games. Also, the only two times he made the playoffs his team won the Stanley Cup and made it to the finals. Put some more respect on Nathan Horton.
And in 2007, had the Flyers won the draft lottery, I still don't think they take Kane. He's not a mucker and grinder and that's all the Flyers ever draft. Either muckers and grinders or goalies.
The Penguins trading the Brian Lawton pick worked out for them in unforseen ways. Lawton was a surprise selection, Minnesota GM Lou Nanne being guilty of thinking too much. Lafontaine was long considered the consensus #1 pick in that draft. So if Pittsburgh kept the pick, they would likely have taken Lafontaine. Lafontaine was a great player, not great enough to have Pittsburgh vastly improved over the next couple of years, but good enough that they probably would have finished ahead of the Devils in 1983-84 and Mario Lemieux would have ended up a Devil instead of a Penguin, and the Penguins would be playing somewhere like Saskatoon or Hamilton today instead of Pittsburgh. On top of that, the Islanders were definitely going for Yzerman if Lafontaine had not become so unexpectedly available, so three very famous players, Lafontaine would have been a Penguin, Lemieux would have been a Devil and Yzerman would have been an Islander. But all because Pittsburgh traded that pick to Minnesota, it ended up different.
@@lilwoodiewood3457 Whatever year Lafontaine was drafted, Lawton was drafted. I don't remember which, but Lemiuex was drafted in 84 and Lawton was drafted before Lemieux.
Poor DiPietro. A concussion and major injury can just kick off the worst. Fortunately for him, he's still making over a million per year for the next 7 years. He wanted success in the NHL and got that yoinked, but at least he has financial stability.
Not for nothing but Mel Bridgeman became the Flyers captain for the 79-80, 80-81 seasons. And while it wasn't the #1 pick the Flyers taking Mike Ricci ahead of Jamir Jagr in the 1990 draft was an exercise in stupidity. If the Flyers take Jagr in 1990 then Forsberg in 1991 they wouldn't have needed to trade for Lindros. Then say they still make the trade with Montreal that brought in LeClair, imagine a line with Forsberg, Jagr, and LeClair. It could have rivaled the line of Gretzky, Tikkenen, and Kurri.
A successful draft pick swap can make a GM’s career. Which is why they gamble on it. Obviously Craig Patrick was towards the end of the line when he got Fluery, having a couple cups already in the 90’s. But that kind of swap to land that kind of player, who pans out, is the type to spring a career. Not that it comes to fruition often, but that is the gamble the GMs are often willing to take. Especially when their team is bad. You are desperately looking for a cornerstone to build around. Because your days are already numbered with a sucky team. Why not full send it and try to get the Sedin Twins?
I would disagree with "trading future first-round pick" as "trading nr 1 pick". Technically, you are correct since nr 1 pick got traded, but also technically the actual trade was pick swaps or round one picks.
@@quentinbroome2778 the rules changed. The trade option was 79 or 80 1st round pick not just 80. Gretz was never drafted. If you google what happened. Many nhl teams knew WHA was about to die but thought all undrained players would have to get drafted. Gretz had a unique contract that went around that. When I get home I will post a link about the original trade.
I'm not familiar with any specific clause that would exempt Gretzky, but he couldn't have been eligible for the 1980 draft if he was already playing in the NHL.
@@quentinbroome2778 read the link i posted. gŕetz was not in the league when the trade happened. The link is interesting. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE GRETZ DRAFT
Top pick is usually a bust or didn't live up to being the best pick out of the top 5ish.... but then you look stupid if ya dont pick the #1 recommended lol
Daneyko was just an enforcer and had the longest points drought in NHL history. Maybe his hits were hard but he is mostly just overhyped af, reckless and just awful human being..
Thumbs down for “in 2003 fleury was the first goalie selected first overall since DiPietro in 2001”. Seriously? This ESPN style of idiotic non impactful stat keeping must die
You seriously need to learn how to edit a video (both, audio/video) because you speak way to much (without any pause). You should have included the biggest #1 trade, the Eric Lindros saga.
As stated, in order to count the phyiscal draft pick itself had to have been traded.. Not the player selected with it.. Lindros got traded after he was already selected..
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Would you ever do Trade trees? I know there is 'a guy' out here who has done the more popular trade trees, but he's left so many out as well and he said he wont be doing them for a long time now.
Heck, I'd be glad to do research for you if necessary.
I expected to see Lindros there :P
@@legroshiphop well this as mentioned was about trading the physical draft pick itself and not the person selected with it, or else this video would be 2 hours long haha. Lindros was already selected before he got traded which is why I didn’t include him.
Burkies magic to trade for the second and third to get both of the Sedins is, by far, the best move ever made by a Canucks GM. It’s gotta be on the list of best moves ever.
For 2 bum's
@@tythegolfer6279 you mean the pillars of the community who combined for 2111 points over the course of their career? Nah bud. They’re good.
The 1999 draft was crap. The next best player out of this draft after the Sedin's was Henrik Zetterberg and he was drafted in the 7th round!
@@primekiller5729 agreed. Burke did a good job to get the two best players available and they formed the core of the Canucks franchise for a decade or so.
Also, as a side note, my son and I were in attendance when they played their last game in Vancouver against Arizona and it was the most emotional hockey moment I’ve ever experience in person. My little guy was about 8 at the time and we just sat in the stands for 20 minutes after the game ended and cheered and cried along with 18,000 other people. Pretty magical!
@@yoholmes273 of the tens of thousands of players who have struggled to make the NHL over the last hundred or so years a majority of them haven’t won a Stanley Cup. Most of them won’t win Gold Medals or the Hart Trophy or the King Clancy or the Art Ross or the Ted Lindsay but the twins did that. Everybody wants a cup but I guarantee they have no regrets when it comes to their career.
Also, there was a time that they easily could have asked for a trade to go to a contender rather than round out their career on a bottom feeder like Vancouver at that time but they didn’t. That says a lot about their character.
In 1998 I dated a girl that went to SUNY Potsdam. One night while she and her roommates were out I stayed home to watch a random hockey game on ESPN 2. They had a Swedish exchange student that lived with them. A very nice young woman named Olga. Well she came home that night with her boyfriend Peter (also Swedish). He saw me watching the game and said “ my brothers play hockey, they’re really good. They’re twins”. I was like cool man that’s awesome. Peter said, “ no I don’t think you understand. They’re really good and are going to be drafted into the NHL.” The internet wasn’t as prevalent as it is today so I couldn’t exactly look it up. Well that was Peter Sedin, Henrik and Daniels brother. He was a great guy. I was very happy for him.
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I know it usually turns into nothing, but I'd love a video on "future considerations" how many times that actually turned into... anything at all
Oh wow!! That would be interesting!!
Detroit getting Kris Draper for $1 from Winnipeg
Great idea
"And thank you for tuning in today's presentation of the National Hockey League's 'Wide World Of WTF Were They Thinking?' Tune in next time for more hard-hitting action with League legend Patrik Stefan!"
Hindsight is a bitch sometimes
@@KalmoK Yep. And it will kick a person dead in the pants.🤯😱💀
I feel bad for Stefan. So many different things went wrong. Poor guy had his most embarrassing moment live on in infamy and realistically speaking, it’s not his fault the rest of his team forgot to play defense after the play
@@richardtherichard26 Fair enough, but the aforementioned infamous moment is still funny as hell.
@@richardtherichard26 Nobody said it was, the point was that it's just embarrasing from a dude hyped to be a superstar but struggled too much in NHL..
Fun fact about the Vincent lecavalier one, the Colorado avalanche offered all four of their first round picks that year to Tampa Bay to move up and draft lecavalier, and it would have gone through but Tampa said they also wanted Peter forsberg as well so it didn't wind up happening and instead the avalanche drafted Alex Tanguay, Martin Skoula, Robyn Regehr, and Scott "The sheriff" Parker
Not bad, not Lecavalier but not bad at all
@@f.f5771 if it had just been trading those four players straight up for Lecavalier, i would have been fine with that but when they said they wanted forsberg too that's when it becomes way too much
I love watching that video of Parker going after Probert and the ensuing fight.
Probert hammered him
The 1976 trade for the Rockies first was reportedly made with the intentions of drafting Wayne Gretzky had he became draft eligible. Pollock was really playing 4D chess
LoL that still doesn't make sense, for obvious reasons.....the date in particular.
@@AshtrayAnnie the draft age was 19 back then, so yes it makes sense
@@emileplante No mate, that makes even less sense now. Go do the math😂. Gretzky would have been 15-16 in 76.
@@AshtrayAnnie When do you think people started to notice Connor McDavid? When he got to the OHL? No, he was always the best player at every level he played and people were already talking about him in bantam. Same thing for Gretzky. At 15 he was already playing with 20 year olds and averaging 2 points per game. It's very possible that Pollock saw him and made the trade with him in mind, considering he did something similar with Lafleur before and was way ahead of everyone else in terms of scouting at that time.
@@emileplante go back and read what you said man. I've been a scout for many years and know how the scouting system works. You said the Rockies traded in 76 with the intentions to draft Gretzky when available. That's still 2-3 years from his draft year (also not to forget the draft rules were changed in 79). So technically he would have been an 81 draft under the old rules.
The Sharks getting Brad Stuart after trading away the picks that ended up being Vincent Lecavalier and David Legwand actually benefited the franchise a few years later. They packaged Stuart, Sturm, and Primeau and traded them to Boston and got Jumbo Joe Thornton. Bonus fact: the Sharks also received a 2nd round pick in the same trade that had them trade the 1st round pick that ended up being Legwand to Nashville. That 2nd round pick was Jonathan Cheechoo, who benefited big time from having Joe Thornton as a linemate in 2005-06.
@@yoholmes273 don’t be dumb. The sharks were barely on the map. Owen Nolan ?.. irbe? Joe helped establish the franchise
Patrik Stefan, Steve Bartman, and Bill Buckner walk into a bar...
No Leon Durham? He pulled off the exact same thing as Buck. BTW, blame the million dollar players over a fan every single time. 3 more innings in that game and another full game and they still choked. If athletes can't put that stuff out of their heads an move on then they don't deserve those huge paychecks.
Imagine if Montreal didn’t trade that pick the seals would still be a team no sharks
More likely, Lafleur would have went to Oakland, turned out for the Seals as a monumental bust, they would have traded him after two years for some scrub, and he then would have turned into the star everyone expected, only for his new team. That was how the Seals operated.
1:13 wasn't the French Canadian rule in play still at the time ?
Brian Burke also picked Morgan Rielly 5th overall in 2012. The teams ahead of him picked Nail Yakupov, Ryan Murray, Alex Galchenyuk and Griffin Reinhart. Say what you will about Burke, but he can find talent in some pretty terrible draft classes
Burke also said if he had the first overall pick he’d still take Reilly.
@@moedanglez over vasilevsky? I don’t think so.
@@MakeUmad4life no, he meant from the top 5 projected picks he thought Reilly was the best player and he was very right
@@lilwoodiewood3457 he’s pretty damn close. This is coming from a Montreal canadiens fan. He may be the best goalie of todays game.
I'm conflicted when it comes to Burke because of the year before, when he traded the 30th and 39th picks to move up to 22nd to pick Tyler Biggs. Biggs never played in the NHL and retired from IHL life in 2019. The 30th pick becomes Rickard Rakell, and the 39th becomes John Gibson.
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It would be funny if Bedard was traded before he gets drafted
The guy the panthers really wanted in 03 was Ovi, but I think you already made a video on that
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You forgot to mention that Pollock seeing that the Golden Seals might not finished last, exanges an established players to the LA kings in hope that will help them pass the Golden Seals in the standing (wich they finally did) and so securing Lafleur as the first round pick (Detroit ending up picking Marcel Dionne at #2) Pollock was taking advantages of new GMs that didn't really know what they were doing with new franchises and in 1967 when the league expend with 6 new teams, the old teams were allowed to protect almost all their nhlers and ahlers so it left only old or amateur player for those franchise to start with, no wonder they suck until the mid 70's
thats correct
Don't forget that Montreal also got the Seals second round pick that same draft year. That pick was the first pick in the second round which turned into Larry Robinson (and to thing that notorious bad boy Steve Durbano was selected ahead of Larry Robinson).
9:54 - The best quote I ever heard about Patrik Stefan. Wasn't there concern about all the concussions he had playing for the Las Vegas Thunder in the IHL?
😂😂 I believe so!! But I specifically remember that quote from his coach from juniors and had to mention it 💀
Fun fact about Stefan missing that goal, it lead to Edmonton game tying goal which gave them a point and kept them out of the draft lottery and put Chicago in the lottery, Chicago won the lottery and drafted Patrick Kane
Vinny is a legend in Tampa.
With good reason. Terrific player.
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Sick roast 4:42. Basically the gm means that he thinks that the Rockies would suck for a while lol
Does anyone have any evidence that Denis Savard was being considered for the #1 pick in 1980? I just remember the choice being between Wickenheiser and Dave Babych, which Montreal got wrong in a rare misstep for them at the time.
Also, Gord Kluzak got picked #1 because of a pre-draft trade with the North Stars that had them agree not to pick Brian Bellows. Why they didn't just swap picks is beyond me.
Exactly right; those 2 were the consensus 1 and 2; undersized players like Savard were afterthoughts ( despite his French Canadian status ). I'm sure Coffey was absolutely not a consideration.
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So basically in the 70s and 80s Montreal did some trolling.
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Nathan Horton and the Sedin twins were both instrumental in the Bruins' 2011 Stanley Cup win. Horton, after getting a severe concussion, became the guy in the locker room who would rally the Bruins to victory. Whether it be dumping Boston water onto the Vancouver ice or having his agent, Bobby Orr, waving the #18 banner before game 6.
The Sedins just faded into the background. I remember one of them being punched repeatedly in the face by Brad Marchand and looking at the referee for a call. It was moves like that that caused Mike Milbury to famously refer to the Sedins as Thelma and Louise.
What 2011 Bruins Stanley Cup win are you referring to? I don't remember such a thing. I do remember the Sedin brothers. They were absolute icons, along with a select few others like Ovi and Sid they were the face of the sport.
@Uto ESC uh, the one where the Bruins skated around the ice in Vancouver with Lord Stanley's chalice after they shut the Canucks out 4-0. The one when angry Canucks fans rioted, that one.
The Sedins got knocked around, and no one protected them. They may have been good finesse players but no cups.
@@kencoakley3959 I really don't know, I'm not an avid fan of the sport. You understand my point hopefully. What may have been very important for you and something you like to gloat about is something others have no memory of. and the gloating looks absolutely silly then The Sedins were iconic, they are fondly remembered. For Boston I can only think of Chara, a player of similar status. Absolute legend. Some random cup win? Most people really don't care and you're just spreading bad vibes when you go slag the Sedins off because they didn't win that cup.
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A few things that need to be said about the Habs stealing the #1 pick for 1980.
1. The trade was made in 1977-78, not 1976.
2. The deal was made when the NHL draft was in a chaotic state of flux due to the WHA raiding junior clubs of players as young as 15 as they had no age limits unlike the NHL.
3. Like with Guy in 1971, Pollack had a player in mind based on the NHL's draft rules at the time. (They had lowered their age limit from 22 to 21 to 20 and now to 19. It would lower yet again after the NHL/WHA merger a year later.) The man he wanted was Soo Greyhounds' wonder kid Wayne Gretzky who would be eligible in 1980 and likely the consensus #1 pick if he stayed in junior in the event of the WHA folding. The problem was the WHA survived another year and they snagged Wayne when he was 17 meaning he would NOT be eligible for the draft so the Habs needed to start from 0 when that draft took place.
4. Pollack's reign as Canadiens' GM ended soon after this trade took place and his successor, Grundman, trainwrecked the pick drafting for a need instead of the best player on the board.
.* The Colorado Rockies' first round pick went to the Montreal Canadiens as the result of a trade on September 13, 1976 that sent Ron Andruff, Sean Shanahan and the 19th overall pick to the Colorado Rockies in exchange for this pick.
I have a video idea. How about the best 10 or 5 Stanley cup playoff series or finals in your opinion?
Honestly if Vancouver won the first overall pick, they would trade it for a 7th round pick.
Merry Christmas bro
Hey im from that survivor season you’re in and i saw someone from it say they watched you so i decided to sub
Thanks sm man!! Have a merry Christmas!!
@@idontgivetkachuk you too!
One thing i noticed , Pittspurgh made the best drafts since 1980's . Lemieux , Jagr and Crosby alone make top 10 in recent NHL legends .
No one will ever convince me that the Crosby to Pittsburgh lottery was not crooked.he went to the American team in the most danger of folding or moving.. Blackberry owner Jim Balsillie was actively trying to buy the Pens and move them to Hamilton. Bettman was absolutely not going to allow that to happen.
@@lincolnmaceachern2410 Bettman himself is a crook . He disallowed players going to last olympics only as pure meanness when it was actually possible. He also did everything to block teams moving to canada again.
@@lincolnmaceachern2410 As a Pens fan, I agree. I send Bettman a X-Mas card every year.
"Made" the best drafts? They tanked the right years, Lemieux, Crosby & Malkin was obviously generational talents.
Just some quick food for thought…. Take a look at scoring records set by Gretzky. Someone hyped as the MJ of hockey when comparing their scoring stats to other players in the league is comparing a superstar(Gretzky) to a pedestrian (Jordan) in comparison. Jordan was phenomenal. Gretzky’s scoring records will likely never be touched.
I never new about Patrik Stefan 180 point potential he didn’t lie 64-124-188 in entire career
😂😂 exactly
The next one will be the 2022 draft when Montreal trades the 1st overall pick to the Rangers for Lafreniere.
Great video!
7:37 the penguins won that trade 100%. Bob still works with the penguins lol (between the bench commentator)
This is why teams lottery protect their picks now. Also Dipietro was 1st overall in 2000.
I always wondered what teams would've been like if they could never trade their draft picks until they were drafted.
What would teams have been like then....
That’s it, I’m giving a Tkachuck
I loved Bob Errey when I was a kid
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Merry Christmas!! Thank you so much!!
Such a crazy situation every time it happens
Nice going Seals
Nice Christmas gift!
Thanks man!! Means a lot!!
I remember hearing the quote comparing Lecavalier to Jordan and even back then I thought it was absurd.
May as well throw Joe Sakic in there too!
Infact, Lindros, Sakic, Yzerman, Sean Tornado, Wayne Gretzky, The Lemieux Brothers Mario and Claude, Jaromir Jagr, and the flying frenchman Cam Neeley.
Cam Neeley was easily the best coach in Rockies history.
And where the fuck did all these Sutters come from!
And John LeClair had sex with Steve Yzerman's wife!
You still did not give Nathan Horton enough respect. He had six straight 22+ goal seasons and had 36 points in 43 playoff games. Also, the only two times he made the playoffs his team won the Stanley Cup and made it to the finals. Put some more respect on Nathan Horton.
Sorry you feel that way :/
And in 2007, had the Flyers won the draft lottery, I still don't think they take Kane. He's not a mucker and grinder and that's all the Flyers ever draft. Either muckers and grinders or goalies.
Wow your streak continues we are preparing for a tourney and you happen to post during it
Marry Christmas everyone who reads this
Same to you!!
The Penguins trading the Brian Lawton pick worked out for them in unforseen ways. Lawton was a surprise selection, Minnesota GM Lou Nanne being guilty of thinking too much. Lafontaine was long considered the consensus #1 pick in that draft. So if Pittsburgh kept the pick, they would likely have taken Lafontaine. Lafontaine was a great player, not great enough to have Pittsburgh vastly improved over the next couple of years, but good enough that they probably would have finished ahead of the Devils in 1983-84 and Mario Lemieux would have ended up a Devil instead of a Penguin, and the Penguins would be playing somewhere like Saskatoon or Hamilton today instead of Pittsburgh. On top of that, the Islanders were definitely going for Yzerman if Lafontaine had not become so unexpectedly available, so three very famous players, Lafontaine would have been a Penguin, Lemieux would have been a Devil and Yzerman would have been an Islander. But all because Pittsburgh traded that pick to Minnesota, it ended up different.
@@lilwoodiewood3457 Whatever year Lafontaine was drafted, Lawton was drafted. I don't remember which, but Lemiuex was drafted in 84 and Lawton was drafted before Lemieux.
Poor DiPietro. A concussion and major injury can just kick off the worst. Fortunately for him, he's still making over a million per year for the next 7 years. He wanted success in the NHL and got that yoinked, but at least he has financial stability.
Happy holidays!
Eric Lindros, right?
Not for nothing but Mel Bridgeman became the Flyers captain for the 79-80, 80-81 seasons. And while it wasn't the #1 pick the Flyers taking Mike Ricci ahead of Jamir Jagr in the 1990 draft was an exercise in stupidity. If the Flyers take Jagr in 1990 then Forsberg in 1991 they wouldn't have needed to trade for Lindros. Then say they still make the trade with Montreal that brought in LeClair, imagine a line with Forsberg, Jagr, and LeClair. It could have rivaled the line of Gretzky, Tikkenen, and Kurri.
And *then* forgot to charge a laptop 😏😂
@@idontgivetkachuknever said he was Bill Pollian but he was a decent hockey player.
A successful draft pick swap can make a GM’s career. Which is why they gamble on it. Obviously Craig Patrick was towards the end of the line when he got Fluery, having a couple cups already in the 90’s. But that kind of swap to land that kind of player, who pans out, is the type to spring a career. Not that it comes to fruition often, but that is the gamble the GMs are often willing to take. Especially when their team is bad. You are desperately looking for a cornerstone to build around. Because your days are already numbered with a sucky team. Why not full send it and try to get the Sedin Twins?
I would disagree with "trading future first-round pick" as "trading nr 1 pick". Technically, you are correct since nr 1 pick got traded, but also technically the actual trade was pick swaps or round one picks.
Merry Christmas
Same to you buddy!!
Me after playing franchise mode on NHL 22: Wait it’s uncommon for the 1st pick to be traded?
Rick dipietro was in the 2000 draft not 2001
Damn
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To be fair no one is known for being a Golden Seal XD
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The 1980 draft was suppose to be the Gretzky draft
Gretzky was already playing in the NHL in 1979, so no it wasn't.
@@quentinbroome2778 the rules changed. The trade option was 79 or 80 1st round pick not just 80. Gretz was never drafted. If you google what happened. Many nhl teams knew WHA was about to die but thought all undrained players would have to get drafted. Gretz had a unique contract that went around that. When I get home I will post a link about the original trade.
I'm not familiar with any specific clause that would exempt Gretzky, but he couldn't have been eligible for the 1980 draft if he was already playing in the NHL.
@@quentinbroome2778 read the link i posted. gŕetz was not in the league when the trade happened. The link is interesting. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE GRETZ DRAFT
@@quentinbroome2778 Google is your friend.
Surprised you don't have more subs by now.
Thanks haha
This why the draft is a joke..the bigger teams fleeced the noobies for their high draft picks..
How do you not mention the lindros trade
I mentioned why in the video
9:54 😆
If only Florida had kept the first pick in 03, the flyers wouldn’t have to deal with the penguins
And now Rick is going to be the first player in #CBJ history to have his number retired this March! :)
You didn't even show the clip of the famous Nash goal against the Coyotes after mentioning it lol
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I would have lied and took a Sedin twin anyway 😂
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Another reason the north stars left town. Brian Lawton.
*sigh* as an islander fan i know whats coming.
RIP Guy,
Lawton was the biggest bust ever!
There are really only three words that can be used to accurately describe the 2003 draft:
Hugh
Fucking
Jessiman
Col rockies? Since when
Alexander Daigle has to be on here.
I guarantee that the 2022 1st overall pick will be traded but anyways merry Christmas bro
Merry Christmas!!
I like videos like This. 22 33
This also means Montreal killed the seals ong
Lecavalier is the guy
Guessing the Lindros trade doesn't count.
Vincent isn't even close to the Jordan of hockey
Tell Art Williams that lmao 😂
@@idontgivetkachuk what about the 104 people who have more points then him 😆 🤣
I mean hey that works too 💀
Top pick is usually a bust or didn't live up to being the best pick out of the top 5ish.... but then you look stupid if ya dont pick the #1 recommended lol
Daneyko was just an enforcer and had the longest points drought in NHL history. Maybe his hits were hard but he is mostly just overhyped af, reckless and just awful human being..
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Omg!! That’s so awesome man! Hope he and your family have a Merry Christmas!!
You probably could have included Eric Lindros on the list
No I couldnt. This is about the actual pick itself not the person selected. Also, he got traded after he was selected.
Y not bully Columbus?
Thumbs down for “in 2003 fleury was the first goalie selected first overall since DiPietro in 2001”. Seriously? This ESPN style of idiotic non impactful stat keeping must die
Okay over one mistake lmao.
Better to trade your whole draft for both Sedin sisters to win nothing. Haha
What’s up I’m back
Hard read: Montreal moves the future first overall pick to acquire Patrice “Canadian boy” Bergeron
Seatgeek ain’t helping me this Christmas. :(
Damn :(. I hope u have a good Christmas tho!!
I think they should've banned trading future draft picks
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Wow
Really bro? The seeden sisters are a win...maybe for the Bruins in 2011 hahahah.... Softest lady's to ever pkay
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Nothing worse than a sore winner.
You seriously need to learn how to edit a video (both, audio/video) because you speak way to much (without any pause). You should have included the biggest #1 trade, the Eric Lindros saga.
As stated, in order to count the phyiscal draft pick itself had to have been traded.. Not the player selected with it.. Lindros got traded after he was already selected..