I just ordered the parts to R/R the crank on a nearly new HRX217HYA mower (85 operating hours). Nailed an obstruction & bent the crank. This uses the GCV190A engine, but the internals are almost identical. I have the factory shop manual, but there's really no clear instructions about setting the cam/crank timing. This video really cleared that up for me, so thanks a bunch!
This video was the best! Good progression sequence, good photos and everything needed to be successful....thank you to the author and too bad more of the quick hits don't talk about the timing belt issue with the GCV 160.....my advise to anyone experiencing a no start condition after running out of fuel would be to 1. check spark plug for wear 2. pour a bit of gas into the carb behind the air cleaner and then if there is still no start, 3. pull off the valve cover to check the timing belt. I like the engine though as it appears to be a very mature design and nicely cost reduced to be parts minimised....difficult to mess up.
THANK YOU. As far as I can tell, yours is the ONLY video that gets inside the cases in an organized manner. I think Honda needs to do a better job with the teardown info. GCV160-190 engines have some valve sticking and cam slip/breakage issues that many (I'm sure) think are inexcusable. Again, thanks.
Just bought a replacement cover with the little "shelf on the inside to keep the cam belt in place. Honda part number 12311-ZL8-D00. Had my mower for 10 years now and belt had popped off 3 times for no obvious reason. Original cover did not have the shelf so I hope this new part will avoid the problem in future. Must have done 250 to 300 hours by now, oil change every 25-30 hours and a replacement plug every few years. Still runs nicely.
Good concise video. I am looking at a piece of equipment with this engine. I would suggest that adding some arrows at the parts discussed in each frame might help.But still, this video went a long way to helping me understand this engine.
awesome video. my pressure washer suddenly stopped working, turned out the exhaust valve head broke off the stem. only need to look for valve clearance info now
Really enjoyed your video, I have a question. On the belt itself could you install it upside down or backwards? Some of the videos are seen on the GC 160 on the engine when they took the belt off and mark it so they could reinstall it the same way. I'm replacing mine so I don't have that luxury of marking it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Awesome video!!!... Ours just made a loud bang recently and now I can't pull start. Opened it up and I can spin the crank partially , but then it hit a solid metal on metal barrier. Friend suggested it was the timing belt. Do you think the engine is trashed at this point ? I know on my car it would be . But unsure if this is an interference engine.
There's a coupla things you should check. First, pop the valve cover, and check inside. Some of the problems that happen there are cam belt slip, split rocker arms and swallowed valves. The cam belt slippage rarely results in metal-to-metal stoppage, but check anyway. Cylinder at top-dead-center means the two cam alignment marks are parallel to the top of the cylinder head (see video). Reset the timing if it's off, and give it a try. To check for split rocker arms, pull the pins that the arms pivot on (they pull out with a set of pliers), and visually inspect the arm. While the arms are off, inspect the valve stems, the two solid steel cylinders that are pushed down by the rocker arms as the cam spins and moves the arms. If one or two are not there, or they are not both returned to the same exposed length, then the engine has swallowed a valve, and yes, it's dead. If both valve stems are there, and the rocker arms are good, then you need to split the crankcase as shown. The piston skirt may have shattered and gotten pieces into the crankcase. If so, you'll see metal pieces in the crankcase, and you may even see the shattered skirt on the piston when the piston is a bottom-dead-center. If that's the case, it's fixable, but you'll have to decide the parts cost/time vs. replacement cost to figure out if it's worth fixing. You can also check the gears while you are in there to make sure that there's nothing interfering with their mesh. Good luck.
Nice video. But I still think the the GX engines are a lot better. Can't believe they use rtv sealant on the crankcase and valve cover. Honda went cheaper on these engines.
M Car depends what you want to do with them, I build mini bikes and these engines are so smooth and powerful that I'm makes the bikes beautiful to ride
You don’t know what you are talking about. Many many things take Hondabond sealer and not gaskets. Honda car manual transmissions have always used sealer and not gaskets on the cases. Use the real Hondabond sealer, it’s gray in color and not as soft and slimy like pure silicone like the blue crap in this video.
I have a honda gc 160 tiller motor, which I can't get to stay in time I have put 2 new belts and timing years on and set the valves and same thing it jumps time what can I do?
Good presentation. I still don't understand why people call engines motors. You could have done yourself a real favor by ordering the cast cam cover and gasket and you don't have to mess with that shitty sealant. Cover: 12311-Z2A-000 Gasket: 12312-Z2A-000.
Sorry one more question why doesn't my pressure washer pump have waters pressure motor turns on water come out but with out but with out pressure any ideas its a homelite UT80432
Diggsc. Do you think this is a very good engine? Compared to Briggs Exi275? Thanks in advance. Trying to decide on an engine right now for my 25 years Snapper Power propelled mower that is still in great shape. For home owner use. Small yard
Jeff Perry Other than the timing belt slipping (and the new cover fixes that) I've had no problems with it. The log splitter this was onis used commercially, hundreds more hours than if used by a homeowner.
I don't know if you found this out yet but it sounds like your timing key has sheared. Take off the flywheel and check the condition of the small lead tab that sticks out.
Can anyone diagnose my situation from this?... I have a Honda GCV160 that had been set to bag, but didn't have a bag on it, now it seems weak, doesn't want to move forward much, and stalls out. Do you think it needs a whole new motor, timing belt, or what?
I’m looking through the comments for the time in the video when the cam and crank pulleys are out back into time, since my belt only popped off the cam sprocket. I do appreciate you and the time spent sharing the video and it’s new info to me about the new valve cover with belt guide. I’m wondering now though if the belt would just rub against the belt guide and wear it’s self out that way.
Can anyone please help me i bought a Gcv190 for my push mower and now i can install it becase the part where the blade goes has mo tread to screw the bolt to hold the blade
this engine is garbage! I know how to rebuild these from bottom up. Cant believe Honda is makin this crap. Used to swear by Honda, till i started rebuilding these new engine's.
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I just ordered the parts to R/R the crank on a nearly new HRX217HYA mower (85 operating hours). Nailed an obstruction & bent the crank. This uses the GCV190A engine, but the internals are almost identical. I have the factory shop manual, but there's really no clear instructions about setting the cam/crank timing. This video really cleared that up for me, so thanks a bunch!
This video was the best! Good progression sequence, good photos and everything needed to be successful....thank you to the author and too bad more of the quick hits don't talk about the timing belt issue with the GCV 160.....my advise to anyone experiencing a no start condition after running out of fuel would be to 1. check spark plug for wear 2. pour a bit of gas into the carb behind the air cleaner and then if there is still no start, 3. pull off the valve cover to check the timing belt. I like the engine though as it appears to be a very mature design and nicely cost reduced to be parts minimised....difficult to mess up.
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Thank you for such a concise and well edited video!
THANK YOU. As far as I can tell, yours is the ONLY video that gets inside the cases in an organized manner. I think Honda needs to do a better job with the teardown info. GCV160-190 engines have some valve sticking and cam slip/breakage issues that many (I'm sure) think are inexcusable. Again, thanks.
Just bought a replacement cover with the little "shelf on the inside to keep the cam belt in place. Honda part number 12311-ZL8-D00. Had my mower for 10 years now and belt had popped off 3 times for no obvious reason. Original cover did not have the shelf so I hope this new part will avoid the problem in future. Must have done 250 to 300 hours by now, oil change every 25-30 hours and a replacement plug every few years. Still runs nicely.
finally. the video I needed to see. now I can fix my engine. also awesome guitar playing
Good concise video. I am looking at a piece of equipment with this engine. I would suggest that adding some arrows at the parts discussed in each frame might help.But still, this video went a long way to helping me understand this engine.
Nice video Bro very easy to follow and understand. And Honda make a nice little motor
Excelente video debería poner los títulos en español gracias por siempre siga adelante
since you had the crankcase apart..you left out a description of the oil slinger and governor centrifugal device..great video
awesome video thanks for your time and effort
awesome video. my pressure washer suddenly stopped working, turned out the exhaust valve head broke off the stem. only need to look for valve clearance info now
What a great video. Thanks
Adjust the valve clearance while you’re in there too!
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Really enjoyed your video, I have a question. On the belt itself could you install it upside down or backwards? Some of the videos are seen on the GC 160 on the engine when they took the belt off and mark it so they could reinstall it the same way. I'm replacing mine so I don't have that luxury of marking it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Only if you are re using the old belt, if using a new one just install it either way.
What are the symptoms if the timing belt has to be replaced. My lawnmower runs very rough and misses. I clean the Carb but still is not good.
Awesome video!!!... Ours just made a loud bang recently and now I can't pull start. Opened it up and I can spin the crank partially , but then it hit a solid metal on metal barrier. Friend suggested it was the timing belt. Do you think the engine is trashed at this point ? I know on my car it would be . But unsure if this is an interference engine.
There's a coupla things you should check. First, pop the valve cover, and check inside. Some of the problems that happen there are cam belt slip, split rocker arms and swallowed valves. The cam belt slippage rarely results in metal-to-metal stoppage, but check anyway. Cylinder at top-dead-center means the two cam alignment marks are parallel to the top of the cylinder head (see video). Reset the timing if it's off, and give it a try. To check for split rocker arms, pull the pins that the arms pivot on (they pull out with a set of pliers), and visually inspect the arm. While the arms are off, inspect the valve stems, the two solid steel cylinders that are pushed down by the rocker arms as the cam spins and moves the arms. If one or two are not there, or they are not both returned to the same exposed length, then the engine has swallowed a valve, and yes, it's dead. If both valve stems are there, and the rocker arms are good, then you need to split the crankcase as shown. The piston skirt may have shattered and gotten pieces into the crankcase. If so, you'll see metal pieces in the crankcase, and you may even see the shattered skirt on the piston when the piston is a bottom-dead-center. If that's the case, it's fixable, but you'll have to decide the parts cost/time vs. replacement cost to figure out if it's worth fixing. You can also check the gears while you are in there to make sure that there's nothing interfering with their mesh.
Good luck.
Nice video. But I still think the the GX engines are a lot better. Can't believe they use rtv sealant on the crankcase and valve cover. Honda went cheaper on these engines.
M Car depends what you want to do with them, I build mini bikes and these engines are so smooth and powerful that I'm makes the bikes beautiful to ride
You don’t know what you are talking about. Many many things take Hondabond sealer and not gaskets. Honda car manual transmissions have always used sealer and not gaskets on the cases. Use the real Hondabond sealer, it’s gray in color and not as soft and slimy like pure silicone like the blue crap in this video.
Is this a Power Point presentation? Where's the video?
I have a honda gc 160 tiller motor, which I can't get to stay in time I have put 2 new belts and timing years on and set the valves and same thing it jumps time what can I do?
Thank sir,but I still have a problem,can you show me another clearer for it
Good presentation. I still don't understand why people call engines motors. You could have done yourself a real favor by ordering the cast cam cover and gasket and you don't have to mess with that shitty sealant. Cover: 12311-Z2A-000 Gasket: 12312-Z2A-000.
are these engines non interference?
They're non interference
Does the engine have an interference head? Meaning if the belt breaks or jumps time will the piston hit the valves???
The piston will not hit any open valves.
@@diggscleveland8245 thank you
Sorry one more question why doesn't my pressure washer pump have waters pressure motor turns on water come out but with out but with out pressure any ideas its a homelite UT80432
because the pressure pump is not working.
On the video the part number on the new valve cover package is different from the one written in the verbage on the video which one is correct?
+Jeff Perry The correct part number is 12310-Z0J-000my apologies for getting it wrong on the video.
Diggsc. Do you think this is a very good engine? Compared to Briggs Exi275? Thanks in advance. Trying to decide on an engine right now for my 25 years Snapper Power propelled mower that is still in great shape. For home owner use. Small yard
Jeff Perry Other than the timing belt slipping (and the new cover fixes that) I've had no problems with it. The log splitter this was onis used commercially, hundreds more hours than if used by a homeowner.
video is awesome! thanks
This must be a non interference engine?
Now is a good time to order a high lift, long duration cam for high performance and so it idles like a Harley!
Will these engines bend valves , if belt fails ? Once the engine is removed , how much time is involved to do that ?
when i turn blade the flywheel doesnt turn. is this the timing belt
I don't know if you found this out yet but it sounds like your timing key has sheared. Take off the flywheel and check the condition of the small lead tab that sticks out.
Can anyone diagnose my situation from this?... I have a Honda GCV160 that had been set to bag, but didn't have a bag on it, now it seems weak, doesn't want to move forward much, and stalls out. Do you think it needs a whole new motor, timing belt, or what?
This doesn’t help especially when video text are fast. Background bus dark. Barely any close up. Music does help either.
I’m looking through the comments for the time in the video when the cam and crank pulleys are out back into time, since my belt only popped off the cam sprocket.
I do appreciate you and the time spent sharing the video and it’s new info to me about the new valve cover with belt guide.
I’m wondering now though if the belt would just rub against the belt guide and wear it’s self out that way.
sure these engines aren't as well built as the GX series but they're also like $100 cheaper
I would rather have a predator pushrod engine than the GX series which is cheaper still.
Can anyone please help me i bought a Gcv190 for my push mower and now i can install it becase the part where the blade goes has mo tread to screw the bolt to hold the blade
First the music is annoying. The yellow print is difficult to see and the text goes by to fast to be able to decipher what was printed.
how many hours can last the belt ?
+Pedro Vinzia
The timing belt should last approximately 1000 hours of use in a properly maintained and lubricated motor.
Cool thanks...
You need to talk to tell me what you’re doing dude
use belt for valve😂,it's made in EU(Polska,Turkey)
I think I will just buy a new motor
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this engine is garbage! I know how to rebuild these from bottom up. Cant believe Honda is makin this crap. Used to swear by Honda, till i started rebuilding these new engine's.
Dan, what is a good replacement engine for a Snapper P21507B ? Vertical shaft 25mm dia, 3 5/32" long
@@desperado77760 Predator vertical shaft engine sold Harbor Freight.
finally. the video I needed to see. now I can fix my engine. also awesome guitar playing
What a great video. Thanks