Super Trolley Review - The Darkest ZX Spectrum Game of them All, with Jimmy Savile - Kim Justice
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2017
- Today, we're reviewing Super Trolley - the darkest of all Spectrum games...and only part of that is because of Jim'll Fix It. The actual game itself is, to say the least, depressing, grey and hopeless. Still, enjoy the video!
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Came for the game, stayed for the uncomfortable history.
Are you the one who made Joe Blade?
The 80s as depicted by US media: Neon, sunglasses, fast cars, wisecracking cops
The 80s as depicted by UK media: A shellsuited paedo who got away with it fronts a game where you're a shelf-stacker in a supermarket.
And may I say, how fitting the MGS Psycho Mantis theme is for this
I wrote to Jim'll Fix It as a kid wanting to meet SuperTed,
Never got my wish.
That's probably for the best!.
Larry Bundy Jr
Super Ted? Edward Heath?
you are lucky
Jim'll Fix It: Where losing is the greatest prize of all! UH-uh-UH-uh-UH-uh!
Larry, if Jim had told you that he'd fulfill your Super Ted request you'd get Banana Man instead if you catch my drift.
A friend of mine, Neil Thomson, worked on this - or, the C64 conversion, at least.
He's now an Art Director at Bioware.
The Metal Gear Solid Mantis Theme is surprisingly fitting for a very depressing video like this.
Thank you! I couldn't put my finger on it but I knew it was from something I knew well!
The Saville section made me think that you should do full docus on non-gaming related British modern history and people. (obviously only if there's a good story in it)
There's probably 15 hours of footage alone of him having his arms around some uncomfortable girls.
The football Italia years on Channel 4 would be epic .
That would just be 20 minutes of James Richardson sitting outside a cafe, sipping a coffee and reading the Gazzetta Dello Sport. Not a bad idea actually
You're the only person on TH-cam who is able to convey that special mid 90s time capsule vibe , you've done it countless times with your Atari & Amiga projects , Spectrum , Street fighter the movie , your wrestling work and various references ....I could go on , when it comes to the 90s you really get it , I'm 34 and watching a lot of your stuff feels like I'm hanging out with an old friend , reminiscing over some cigarettes and coffee lol whatever you do will awesome tho no doubt.
Somebody definitely grew up with only 4 channels and got the best out of them like me ha ha.
Peace and love from Plymouth Kim.
I even wrote to him as a kid, wanting to be a truck driver.... Im so happy he never "fixed" me haha
I got a ZX Spectrum video coming out this week too, timing is impeccable :D Cheers Kim Justice, 15 mins well spent
Haha very true! Crazy to see where many of these people I looked up to as a kid are now. The clip with him and Rolf says it all. Another letter Im glad I couldnt afford a stamp to post.
He would tell you to strip then he'll say "Now lets get stuck in"
SCS have fixed it for you nowadays...
You're finally releasing a new video? Blimey! Any plans for the next emunation? It's been far too long
You should've said Jimmy touched you up and got some compen 🤣🤣
This is my favorite Kim Justice episode. As an American I had no idea about Jimmy Savile till after watching this.
Rubacund Same. Fucker makes Bill Cosby seem tame by comparison. Amazing how these people slip through the cracks.
@@jesuszamora6949 Or R Kelly for that matter.
@@jesuszamora6949 You outta see how the media and hollywood make so many celebrities....movie stars, singers, athletes, etc.....look like saints....but many of them are scumbags....pedophiles as well.
Netflix has a great documentary about him called A British Horror Story.
1:33 Oh jeez, Jimmy Savile hosting something Gary Glitter-related? Now that's just... oh man...
@@Yazanico I guess there was just a cadre of scumbags in high positions in UK entertainment that were somehow untouchable.
ooh god i didn't notice that well spotted
To say nothing of Rolf Harris.
To think he was best pals with Thatcher who let Cyril Smith get a knighthood. The further potential disgust of this game could lie in the fact that the lad who asked for this game might have been a victim.
If this game came out as an indie title today it would be touted for its deep social commentary.
_"It's so remorselessly grey and hopeless, it would rob someone of their best years, for they would've seen the world for what it was before their time..._
_...and hey. Jimmy knew a lot about _*_that,_*_ didn't he?"_
That's legitimately one of the most chilling lines I've ever heard in a game review.
😱👍
Super Nonce Simulator
Holy shit. From the first picture you showed, I couldn't believe they put a ghoul like that on a children's show. This was before you actually explained what he did. He looks like an undead Ric Flair.
Yeah. With hindsight, it's laughable that anyone could have seen him as anything other than a lowlife scumbag, even just judging by his appearance. It's strange, though, when you never hear about any of the fucked up things someone does, and only see their celebrity status and all their charity work, you think you'd probably get funny looks if you cast aspersions, so you might just give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure I thought he was odd-looking when I was a kid, but he was on the telly all the time, and raised £millions for charity, so I guess I thought I shouldn't judge a paedo by his tracksuit. Savile was apparently very litigious and knew all the right people. He was able to shape his public image very carefully.
I feel horrible, but 'undead Ric Flair' made me laugh so hard
He looks like Tony Blair in 10 years
@@ralphenstein9105 honestly, how was the nation not at least suspicious, exhibit one is his face
@@benmcgill2018 He, with the help of the BBC, did a very good job of portraying him as a saint. Hard to imagine now, I know.
The BBC should actually fulfil all requests for Saville content. It’s public isn’t it??!! And Jeeeezzz… Even the shelf stacker looks suspicious in this game!!
Glad you're doing stuff like this, Kim.
Even if it is uncomfortable. (Truths often are)
"For a man who had a hand in this, would surely have no problem calling a lake of fire home. Good Night."
That shot of Ricky Gervais and Jimmy at 2:49, the image of insufferable
As an American I never head of this guy, sorry, but just from looking at him...others have commented that he genuinely looks like a stereotypical owner of a windowless van (I'm sure those jokes were subtly coming out to the public BECAUSE those rumors about him persisted up to my formative years even in the states, I mean Herbert from Family Guy is a glaring example). I'm just thankful that Mr. Rogers was never revealed to be a monster like Jimmy was, there had been jokes of course but mostly just taking the piss and not based on actual rumors, Fred Rogers was genuinely a good guy to the end.
He also got away with looking really creepy in his tracksuit and smoking his cigars everywhere. How could that not have been a warning to people?
ah man, the lost hours of my childhood getting lost in this supermarket trying to catch that dog.
To be fair, as a game, it's awful, but as art, I think there's something really special here. The facial expression on the protagonist. Like he's whipped and dead inside. The customers who are all mithering old bags. The fact that cleaning up piss puddles is a highlight because it's something different to fucking do. This is one of those games that if it came out in current year would probably become a meme game on Twitch like Desert Bus or Shower with your Dad Simulator.
Another really interesting video. The look on that character's face is absolutely priceless, reminiscent of something out of Viz.
The poor kid who created this game grew up in the 1980's, Thatchers Britain, and this game looks to be a fairly accurate representation of this time. :D
You had to be careful with this one Kim, but you nailed it.
Late Halloween episode. That's how I'll consider this.
I may be alone but I actually quite liked this game, maybe as a kid chasing a dog around a supermarket cleaning up piss was more fun that it is in real life.
"Youth Hostelling with Chris Eubank"
I'm going on your Patreon come payday.
Inner City Sumo!
Arm wrestling with Chas and Dave.
Monkey Tennis?
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This should had been the halloween special,also "-life is shit, you grow old you get your head down, and then you died havent achieve any of your goals" thanks for the video
Why have they demonetised it, it's hardly celebrating the pervert is it, it's a history of a shit game 😂
Jimmy Saville WAS caught on a number of occasions but he always settled out of court.
I'll subscribe to your patreon as soon as i am able!! I'm a big fan of how your videos are not only game reviews but also sometimes give tiny glimpses into UK culture. Its really interesting
I think Soho Sex Quest was a bit of a sinister text adventure advertised in the back of Speccy mags.
I was unfortunate enough to have played this game back in the day. My brother rented it from our local video shop, we sent it back the next day. So glad we didn't pay full price for it. Seemed like the perfect metaphor for Savile's true nature.
I'm American so watching all the Savile clips in this video I keep muttering "you didn't suspect THAT FUCKING GUY?"
Christ I work in a supermarket & this is like a bloody simulator. It is that boring & it does rob you of your best years lol.
I never heard of Jimmy Savile until this video. From your documentaries on the console wars to the 8-bit computers (micros), I would like to thank you for giving a UK perspective on gaming history.
On another note, is that John Oliver at 3:34?
No, that's David Baddiel
Great vid Kim. That clip from Sonatine's right at home here.
Thanks for reviewing this Kim. I loved this game mainly back in the day. I played It again recently and felt the same Saville aside - I think I loved it because it was so different - it's an existential game. As a Paul Auster fan, that's my thing.
A couple of months ago, I found out that a guy I knew had been jailed as a paedophile. Some of the things he said at the time has been put into considerable perspective for me since like his being good with computers, his frequent visits to Thailand, etc.
Makes you grateful for good things in life I guess.
Nothing wrong with being good with computers. The visits to Thailand, that can be pretty concerning.
darker than the halloween special!
I think you thought I was making stuff up when I said I went to school with the kid who made this but I promise I wasn't! Andrew's mum, Mrs Collett, was our junior school secretary, and he was in the year below me. He lent me his own copy of Super Trolley once, but then I forgot to give it back before the school holidays and his mum phoned my parents to tell them! I got a proper telling off that night xD
But yeah, I've held and played the actual copy that the "creator" was given by Jimmy on the show. Possibly the weirdest/crappest claim to fame ever, haha.
Over the past decade, I've kept my eyes out in case he pops up on Facebook in one of the groups/pages for our junior school or area but to no avail so far. I think I might have found the right one the other week actually but don't want to message and ask... I'd look like a nutter if it's not him and just some other Andrew Collett gets a message from me asking if he was on Jimmy Savile!
Wow! Crazy what a small world we live in lol :D
Actually, we weren't too far from you, it was St Thomas' in Brentwood!
I suppose he'd rather lay low these days.
I take it there's an episode covering a videogame port of either It's A Knockout or Jeux Sans Frontieres in the pipeline. You handled this really well.
Kim why did you not release this vid on haloween this was great and had such a unsettling feeling. Brilliant.
The description on the back of the inlay card reminds me of when I worked at Kwik Save circa 2002. I didn't make the grade though - I think I only lasted about four weeks. I would have been shit at Super Trolley.
Stewart and Richard going straight for the necrophilia jugular there is even closer to the line whne you remember that This morning with Richard not Judy aired at 10 in the morning on Sundays.
A vile, disgusting individual. The only sadness in his demise is that he went before the truth came out, thus denying his many victims a sense of closure. Even in death, he managed to hurt his victims.
As for the game, utter tosh. I agree it looks like misery in pixel form and whoever was ultimately responsible for that terrible game should hang their head in shame.
they all knew about it at the BBC, what gets me also is Esther Rantzen's apology on camera where she admits she heard rumors about Jimmy Savile and she was one of the main people behind Child Line where kids who were really abused were encouraged to call a help line controlled by the BBC and she did nothing about it. Sometimes I think that Child Line was used as an early warning system for perverts at the BBC to stop or be forewarned by kids who had been abused by them if they were attempting to report them to the police. The whole thing makes me want to puke just thinking about it.
What shocks me more is seeing all the comedians joking about it when they all knew it was true. Messed up that.
@@luttefisk i think it was the only way they could get the word out, i think a lot of them joked about it because they wanted someone to look into it, rather than it being ugly rumours, some of them must have wanted something to be done about it
after all, a lot of them knew, and i'm pretty sure a lot of them weren't happy with it, but... it's jimmy savile, what can you do? he was knighted by the queen, he had done all that charity work, he had run a show where he literally made dreams come true for kids and... it was all a front, but nobody would really believe the extent of just how vile he was, and no-one would do a serious investigation, and...
with some of those jokes i could swear i heard a hint of desparation, a twinge of "please someone take this seriously" behind them. like they almost wanted to get up onto the roof and scream about the crimes committed by that vile creature but were pressured into keeping it quiet, and keeping it to a format that nobody would quite take seriously.
The BBC are hypocrites...cover up Savile's crims....Falsely accuse Lord McAlpine of similar crimes
I don't actually believe that this is the game the kid actually had in mind. it seems to me, he wanted some sort of maze like Pacman game in which you went around collecting things in a trolley.
A story not uncommon all over the planet unfortunately, it's a blindspot we really need to address in society, it's ugly but we all got to look at it. Mostly disturbing since it seemed to be completely on the surface for all to see. Damn that is depressing, that a person so young made Super Trolley, I think it must be a reflection of the drudgery of life.
Logan Jorgensen I imagine the kid imagined something a bit more along the lines of Supermarket Sweep... I can't imagine a kid even understanding the mundane nature of supermarket work.
I wrote asking for a ride in the A-team van!! I missed a bullet there!!!!
Well, you did write to the BBC asking them to feature a show on ITV...it was possibly even in the same timeslot 😆😆😆😆
@@lucasoheyze4597 whoops!
Never before have the words 'Get away from her, you bitch" had such relevance to a topic! *SMEG YOU, SAVILLE!!!*
I laughed when he said fag break until I realized that fag is actually British slang for a cigarette
Yes, *HIM.*
Applemask did a video on train adverts not so long ago where he pointedly refused to not only include the adverts with *HIM* in but even refused even mention *HIS* name.
Also, good choice on some of the clips, getting mentions of both the Aussie Paedo and the Paedo of the Gang.
Finding out what the Aussie Paedo was was especially hard for me as I remember things like Rofl's Cartoon Club and the Learn to Swim adverts from the 1980s where Aussie paedo would be in a swimming baths full of children wearing nothing but swimwear... those make for uncomfortable viewing knowing what he went inside for.
GeoNeilUK Out of curiosity, who’s the “Pedo of the Gang?”
@@EddieHawkinsII Clue: "I'm the leader". "Good to be back" "Did you miss me? "
@@EddieHawkinsII The disgraced pop star Gary Glitter.
Nice you included the Jerry Sadowitz clip from the record that got banned.
A suitably sober look at this game and the era, thanks Kim.
Fantastic vid Kim! This is why I support you on Patreon.
Loving the inclusion of the evil Psycho Mantis music.
when i was a little kid, one of my dream jobs was restocking supermarket shelves. i can’t believe i wasn’t alone in my weird childhood dream
THIS is what I tune in for. Big up Kim, absolutely brilliant video.
I remember watching that episode. The thought of having your idea made into a real game was utterly thrilling to a 7 year old. But even back then it was pretty obvious how bad super trolley was. I vaguely recall being inspired to draw up my own game design idea for Jim, but I don't think I sent it in the end (it was probably bollocks whatever it was)
This should have been your Halloween special Kim
Ture Jimmy savile birthday was on Halloween
Fine piece of work here Kim , really fascinating stuff .
Your videos are always fantastic, but this raised the bar! xox :)
Surprised Jerry Sadowitz hasn't flagged this given how much he loves doing that shit.
I was more a fan of the Fred West Washing Up Simulator. A sinister tale that I didn't know before, well tackled Kim.
hated the guy even has a kid he scared me . i tried the game back then i thought it was meh then .
One of your best videos!
Your final statement was well thought and comprehensive. He did know a lot about that. Very interesting video!
dear Jim...
please will you fix it for me to have nightmares.
Jezus. In hindsight, the things he said are seriously disturbing, yet if you heard them back then you may never have thought about the implications...
It's a shame we never got to see who was involved in his harem of wickedness, let's be honest, there were a lot of high ranking people who dodged a bullet when he died.
A good portion of them worked (and some of them more than likely still work) at the BBC
Cough...The Royal Family Cough
Savile wasn't just a pedo, he was also a pimp for the rich elite. Pretty much a British Jeffrey Esptein. Hell, I'm not entirely convinced that he wasn't murdered himself because like Epstein, he knew too much
You're extremely brave to make this doc, Kimble- I felt quite sick most of the way through! I didn't much like Jimmy even before the scandal, his signature grin was creepy, especially with a fat cigar in his mouth!
RoqueFortStu Just looking at him from shots here, he fucking LOOKS like someone who should be asked to take a seat by Chris Hanson.
@@jesuszamora6949 That was how he got away with it. Everyone joked he was a Nonce, so of course no one believed he was.
@@davidjames579 Damn, there's hiding in plain sight and then there's that...
@@jesuszamora6949 I remember people regularly joking that he probably abused kids. If they'd thought it was real they wouldn't have made the jokes, it was that he looked and seemed like a parody of a pedophile. When kids did report it, it was dismissed as not serious, because the idea he was was a joke already. The huge respect the public had for him for his charity work and marathons, just aided to make him seem saintly, and won him lots of fans in older people and those in authority. He also was friends with Margaret Thatcher, the Royal Family, and had the Police round his place every weekend as invited guests. Witnesses have said he was also a procurer of vulnerable children who he then passed on to clients at parties. These clients may have been important people who wouldn't want their secret getting out. Certainly I can't imagine Saville given his positive reputation acting as a pimp of children to ordinary Joe's. And not for small cash. It would have to be large money, but most probably for power, and self-protection.
@@davidjames579 Amazing the contrast with how Michael Jackson was treated here in America.. Just a bit of hearsay and not only was he hounded relentlessly for the rest of his days, but the feds raided his house (finding nothing) and he was tried in 2005.
The idea that a man like Saville dodged so much in comparison. I know the US is a fair bit prudish, but wtf?
Quoting the Daily Mirror; " Savile was seen wheeling the body of a four-year-old child in a pram into a hospital mortuary".
Great video as always!
Thanks for showing us this nihilistic madness!
Yes, I was in Sheffield for almost a week, after he died. BBC Look North had tributes not just on one night, but on many nights. The HIGNFY bit is chilling.
"... For the man who had a hand in this would have no problem calling a lake of fire 'home.'"
Chilling end to this horrifying story.
This game looks suitably haunted. It looks like one of the videos Radiohead made to promote Kid A.
The fact he got away with it for all that time and still no one has paid for it someone must have known something as the clips showed there were jokes for years even now there should be massive changes in every institution in the UK
Karma Houdini.
I dont usually enjoy too many flashbacks in reviews, but with this one you did an excellent job. In fact the review is too good for this game, and I'd be tempted to rename the vid "Super Trolley Review - Darkest Jimmy Saville Game of All Time". It was ported to the usual 8 Bit systems and the C64 version is a lot worse. In fact showing the ZX version in this case definitely shows the game in its greatest light. I watched the Lukozer review of the C64 version recently, and thats worse. I'd rather play Mrs Mop and scrub floors than play this game.
The real life version of Vinnie Vole's Existential Nightmare. And damn it, that theme song is going to get stuck in my head now...
*[ YOUR ACTIONS HAVE DAMNED VINNIE ]*
Kim, I gotta thank you for introducing me to my latest passion. Considering the main focus of this channel, surprisingly it's not anything relating to gaming though. Some time ago I was rewatching a bunch of your old vids and noticed that in a couple of 'em you featured a pic of the cover of "The Dreaming" by Kate Bush. Decided to give it a try, and got hooked instantly! Had never listened to her music before, but after that I've probably listened to everything she's released a bunch of times, but The Dreaming probably remains my favourite.
is that Rolf Harris? oh my god
Excellent episode Kim, and totally fascinating yet horrible history of Saville.
7:28 Hey, what a coincidence. Just discovered this food reviewer guy last night.
The BBC (the ones that covered up all of Jimmy savile's abuse) are working on a four part drama called The Reckoning where Steve Coogan plays Jimmy savile.
It was planning to come out last year but now the BBC (who covered up all of Jimmy savile's crimes) is aiming for a 2023 release.
That's fucked up really. They covered his abuse when needed the most. And only now going to 'expose' it when they can profit. Just evil.
And it's also fucked up that that documentary is streaming on Nonceflix (you'll see why I call it that), when nearly three years ago they streamed, endorsed, and promoted _Cuties,_ which Saville would have seen as his favorite movie of all time. Why hasn't the BBC gone bankrupt and out of business yet?!
Nice taste on video game music Kim!. Rex's Lair, the theme from the original Metal Gear Solid is suitably dark and creepy, foreboding even.
the mgs music makes it even better
Given the recent revelations about Michael Jackson, you should definitely do a video about Michael Jackson’s Moonwalker on the Mega Drive!
Jackson remains unproven after a decade. Saville was outed within a year of his death. Hell, the FBI raided Neverland and found jack, Saville didn't face a tenth of that scrutiny from what I can tell.
@@jesuszamora6949 Jeffrey Epstein then
@@lordevyl8317 Well, there was never a game with that tool, at least not that I remember, so no chance for KJ to cover him...
I had my bubble burst with him when Louis Theroux asked him about the alcohol in his house when he claimed not to drink, his response that it was for his brother was fair enough, but the way he said it just made me think he was not the fella he portrayed himself to be, and while I never even came close to expecting him to be like he really was, he was certainly dodgy in my eyes after that.
Love the subtle Alan Partridge there ;-)
4:00 holy crap - people knew what Jimmy Saville was up to?????
Youth Hostelling with Chris Eubank yes m8
Smell my cheese !!!!!
Glad someone else got that joke :D
Inner-city Sumo
I prefer A Partridge Amongst the Pigeons myself
Arm wrestling with Chaz and Dave.
Sheesh. That was depressing.
Just happened across this video and it brought back memories. We used to go to an open day in some prison for mental health inmates in Liverpool (ashworth?) in the early 80's. We had the sweet stall (appropriate I suppose seeing as we were just kids). The army was there each year recruiting and some of the inmates would sell things they had made like chess sets etc. Anyway I remember one year meeting Jimmy Saville there. He just walked across a field in a gold tracksuit on his way to the prison, all alone. He was a celebrity so we got our picture taken with him. I still have it somewhere
Well... this was depressing. I had heard that Jimmy Savile was a pretty nasty piece of work, but damn! This is why you don't make idols out of celebrities folks! Still, great video as always Kim!
We shouldn't be surprised that it's mundane. Evil people are that way; staggeringly boring and trite.
Dam, you make great videos. Fucking brilliant stuff.
Stoke Mandeville is not a mental hospital.
You've obviously never tried to park there.
This is the only 'Fix It' I remember as was into my Amstrad CPC massively at the time....the Louis Theroux Documentry was a very different watch post his outing.
"Stock up cabbage". Yayyyyy!!!
What game is the menacing music throughout the video from? It's something I've played countless times but can't place it.
First thoughts where Phantasmagoria or Harvester but can't find it videos of either.
I remember watching this episode of the boy helping Mastertronic make the game from his ideas, and inspired by his mum taking him shopping or something. I guess life was was a bit mundane back in the day. I had this game for the C64 and it was rubbish. Quite interesting that it gave an incite into game development but don’t think we will see the tv footage again.
Wow. I actually remember this from the time, now there's a blast from the past.
Just subbed Kim, enjoying Blackpool, hotels a bit crappy but fun, looking forward to your talk tomorrow.
One of your best vids ever
I laughed my ass off because when you talked about going outside for a “fag break”. I live in the USA and over here, the word “fag” has a very different meaning than the way you used it. (Yes, I know it means “cigarette” across the pond.)