The Story of Elite: A Space Opera | Kim Justice

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  • #retrogaming #elite #documentary
    The story of the making of Elite, the most influential British game ever released. Featuring its development, its success, several versions of the game from the original BBC Micro to the NES and Archimedes, and the ever more fraught relationship between its creators Ian Bell and David Braben. Enjoy!
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  • @Kim_Justice
    @Kim_Justice  5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

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    • @aw34565
      @aw34565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great video! You can play Elite, as well as most other popular games for the BBC Micro, online in a browser here : bbcmicro.co.uk/game.php?id=366

    • @warman
      @warman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What about the opera rock "I am ELITE"? th-cam.com/video/rAkHGbRPNR4/w-d-xo.html

    • @Realmasterorder
      @Realmasterorder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liked this a LOT so much stuff i did not know and such great narration, well Done Kim.

  • @wesmatron
    @wesmatron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Braben and Bell fit a universe into less memory space than it takes an iPhone to display one icon

    • @joshmay2944
      @joshmay2944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What an incredibly revelatory analogy!

    • @randlepatrickmcmurphy834
      @randlepatrickmcmurphy834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What if our universe is just an atom in a giant's finger *tokes*

    • @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
      @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes but it didn't look as pretty. Technically a procedurally generated universe doesn't take up much memory at all. A few hundred bytes to interpret the values for the rest of the program. A bit like the pseudorandom number generator in most computers.

    • @daddust
      @daddust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You should see what the demo scene is capable of nowadays.

    • @Zooumberg
      @Zooumberg ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SoulPoetryandOtherWorks You're missing the point. It wasn't deemed possible at the time. These two showed them it was.

  • @elfboy29
    @elfboy29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I remember coming downstairs one night and asking my parents what narcotics were and should I buy them. I still remember their alarmed faces.

    • @venares76
      @venares76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      lol that's brilliant.

    • @realmwatters2977
      @realmwatters2977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love it! Oh that got be funniest thing I heard! All I got it 5 am you should be in bed! Mar! running cargo, to Diso.

    • @Graytail
      @Graytail 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Probbably a good thing it wasnt slaves on sale!

    • @elfboy29
      @elfboy29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Graytail
      Interestingly my parents activley encouraged that

    • @Blacknight8850
      @Blacknight8850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Similarly, as a kid I was into Warhammer 40k and while I was reading the the Tyranids rulebook in among all the Tyrants, Goliaths etc there was one word I didn't recognise. Cut to my mum awkwardly trying to explain to me what a "Dominatrix" is - in a feat of careful wording she said something like "certain men like to pay ladies to tell them off" or something.

  • @GNeuman
    @GNeuman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    My Dad commandeered my Beeb to play this game, he was obsessed by it.....Happy days and RIP, Dad.

  • @retrohistories
    @retrohistories 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    "The pair haven't appeared together since the 1980s"
    It almost happened! They both appeared at the Elite 25th anniversary GameCity event in Nottingham in 2009. They went on stage separately and wouldn't stand together for photos, but they were both in the room.

    • @StephenBlower
      @StephenBlower 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Grow people acting like little children

    • @StephenGutknecht
      @StephenGutknecht 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This a real British thing? Roger Waters and David Gilmour?

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@StephenBlowernah, they'd be children if they actually fought. I can at least understand "look we don't like each other, we'd rather not be together on stage or on camera"
      Sometimes you don't like each other.

  • @jonabbott7806
    @jonabbott7806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    44:27 I have to correct you on one point. The original Arc Elite authors didn't convert it to 32bit in 2014 and permission wasn't blocked by David Braben. I did the conversion as part of the JASPP project to get original Archimedes games running natively on the Raspberry Pi. It was done with permission and in conjunction with the rights holder of the Arc version -Chris Jordan. Once it was ready to release Chris withdrew permission, there was no demo version and no copies exist outside of JASPP and the copy I sent to Chris Jordan. The only proof it even exists is a video on the JASPP TH-cam channel

    • @jimmyporter8941
      @jimmyporter8941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      What a horrible thing to do, withdrawing the rights after all the work was done.

    • @Aevilbeast
      @Aevilbeast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Did he give any reason for withdrawing the rights? Did he do just to **** with the people who did it? Sounds like just a horribly troll-ish thing to do, especially considering all the time and effort that went into the project and for all the people who were eagerly awaiting it.
      Sounds like as soon as he saw that were a decent amount of people interested it, he probably thought there was some money to be had so withdrew the rights. Happens all the time unfortunately and is honestly probably the biggest reason why so many people just go the "shady" route and don't even try to properly get the rights to certain properties. There are just so many beloved older games out there won't ever see the light of day ever again, simply because whoever owns the rights wants to squeeze every single penny out of it even if it hasn't sold or been used in 10-20 years!
      I'm all for protection of owners of intellectual properties, as we wouldn't have these games in the first place without them and the owners/creators deserve to be properly compensated for such work, but there really should better laws in place concerning trollish acts like this. Then again, I'm no expert in copyright laws or any laws for that matter, and honestly don't how it would feel to be on the otherside of the argument, so take what I say with a grain of salt!

  • @hanniffydinn6019
    @hanniffydinn6019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The game still blows my mind. It’s a masterpiece of genius programming ! I’m still learning from the source code, how much they crammed into such a small memory. It’s an impressive feat!

  • @stevedocherty6240
    @stevedocherty6240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I played this on the Amstrad CPC 464 around 1985 - it is hard to describe what a quantum leap in depth and complexity it seemed in comparison with most games that came before it. Tau Ceti was another similar game from the same era - you flew around a planet surface. The closest analogy I can think of is how Bob Dylan changed pop music in the 60s. Prior to him lyrics were mostly about teenage love affairs, after him it seemed obvious that more poetic and political themes could be explored. Later on I was lucky enough to play the Acorn Archimedes version for a while, being one of the few people to own one of these machines. The multi-ship battles definitely added something to the experience, making the universe feel more lived in.

  • @necronom
    @necronom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm watching this while playing Elite Dangerous :-) I became Elite on the Amiga version, then bought Frontier a few years later. The first time I played it was on an Electron at a friends house. I remember it being on the news at the time; it was that big a deal.
    I was at the Cambridge museum a few months ago and had a go on the Archimedes one.

    • @999jay999
      @999jay999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Elite on the Amiga here as well, now I play it on my PC.... :)

  • @1977evh
    @1977evh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Hey Kim, I just wanted to say hello from Milwaukee, Wisconsin in the USA!! I found your channel about a month ago and I wanted to tell you how fantastic the quality of your documentaries are. The information you are bringing to the masses about a time in gaming that was so wonderful and magical, a time before the internet ruined a lot of the surprise you would get from seeing a new game in the store. Unless it was an arcade port that you had played and knew about or maybe you happen to have seen a few sentences and a blurry screenshot about a new game coming out from an early video game magazine, those were the only ways we really knew anything about the games that we were playing or soon to be playing. I enjoyed learning about the English and European gaming scene in the 1980's and 1990's, as over here the NES "saved" gaming, as I am sure everyone knows, since they beat you over the head with that since it was released in 1985,after the "crash" of 1983. I personally had gotten a Sega Master System shortly after it was released in the stated and remember loving every minute of playing it. I had already had an NES, and of course I enjoyed that too but the SMS was just different in a very awesome way! Whether it was the fact that my Mom used to take me to the arcade and I loved and still love all Sega arcade classics and the SMS was chock full of those, especially since the NES didn't have many ports of the Sega games that I loved, at least not right away like the SMS did. To find out that the SMS was the system of choice across the pond and that the NES basically bombed was a very strange version of alternate history to find out lol But anyways, I just love what your doing on youtube Kim, I watched all your videos and then I joined your 4.99 a month membership and am now watching the perk vid list and am enjoying every minute of it!!! Thanks again so much for providing content that is just as good as what's on TV or Cable, if not better!!! And I almost forgot to mention that I am a huge Pro Wrestling fan too and when I saw you had a entire stream during last years Wrestle Kingdom 12, I think that's awesome and if I would have known of your channel back then you would have had one more in your chat room as I watch NJPW events live as well but over here they usually start between 1am-3am, which makes it difficult when working first shift lol Thanks again Kim and if you ever would like to chat about games, wrestling, or anything my email is evh1977@yahoo.com. Have a fantastic day!!

    • @davidkennedy1077
      @davidkennedy1077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pat yourself on the back sir, you have literally found THE greatest 80s/90s gaming channel on TH-cam!!! Kim's mini (often not so mini!) gaming documentaries are so well researched and made, and I've yet to find another channel that comes even close to the quality.

  • @drewardnamthor
    @drewardnamthor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    OK. This is not a bad video but it has a few flaws. First my credentials, I worked for Acornsoft during the time of the development and launch of Elite, indeed I was invited into the initial meeting with Bell and Braeburn.
    The first 3d game for the BBC micro was called Avaitor (launched in 1983).
    There was not a 16kb difference between the disk and tape versions of the BBC micro. (I think it was more like 16 bytes!).
    Acornsoft negotiated an exclusivity period (6 months as I recall) with the authors not that it made much difference because of the time required to port the software which was quite dependent on the architecture of the BBC micro especially its flexible graphics card.
    DJD was not young and inexperienced and Acornsoft was at the time by far the biggest publisher of BBC software (including the aforementioned Aviator, many video game clones as wqell as word processors and spreadsheets). We had several submissions a week of varying quality.
    The offices while small (as I recall we moved to larger offices shortly before the release of Elite) were not at any time a single room and Acorn had a small programming team as well as a testing team, marketing team and management.

    • @jimmyporter8941
      @jimmyporter8941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      For sure as a user, Acornsoft was THE games software publisher for Acorn computers, in addition to it's other applications. They had great arcade conversions, of Defender, Asteroids, Pacman, Galaxians, Space Panic and so on. All of them unlicensed presumably given the name changes, but VERY authentic.
      I never had Aviator or Revs so I can't speak to those, but I know they were highly praised.
      Their adventure games were not good though, being simple BASIC programs, they were very limited compared with Level 9 offerings.

    • @Drew-Dastardly
      @Drew-Dastardly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In RAM 16K is a huge difference and just not possible on a 32K BBC Micro. In actual fact the tape version would have been loaded into more RAM than the disk version as the DFS took out a lot of RAM. PAGE = &E00 on *TAPE and &1900 on *DFS. However, you could lower PAGE to &1100 if you where not using the *BASIC random access filing. So from this we can guess that the disk version of ELITE had *768 bytes LESS* for the CPU to work with.
      Of course the magic is page filing, and I can well believe that there was perhaps a total of an extra 16K in small pages stored on disk loaded in at certain events (ie. missions). This would also allow all the extra space ships not in the tape version.

    • @Drew-Dastardly
      @Drew-Dastardly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jimmyporter8941 I agree. At the time Acornsoft was *the* premiere games company for the BBC. Only followed by Superior Software and Micro Power. The Acornsoft clones you mention are Planetoids, Meteors, Snapper, Arcadians and Monsters.

    • @sharazjek338
      @sharazjek338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Drew-Dastardly thanks for that :-)

    • @Midwinter2
      @Midwinter2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha! I remember Aviator! At least I remember reading a detailed review of it in a magazine (which included an interview with its programmer, Geoff Crammond). I remember marvelling at the screenshots of the wireframe graphics, and reading the review over and over again. I was 12 at the time and never got to see the actual game in motion as BBC computers were unheard of where I lived. Haven't thought of Aviator in almost 40 years....!

  • @adrianhula
    @adrianhula 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Kim, your documentaries are the best youtube has to offer on gaming. you don't just quote verbatim your sources, but put everything together with fresh takes, fresh material and it all becomes seamless with the tried and trusted. well done, love all of them.

  • @mkhachfe
    @mkhachfe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First of all. Thank you for making this video. It was great and stuck a chord with this 45year old who has played Elite right from the get go, moved onto the NES version which I played for 6 hours at a time, then moved to the PC, through Elite 1,2 and 3. (2 and 3 being so enthralling when playing alone at 3am)
    And now, 4 years after buying the game, I still play Dangerous every weekend for hours.
    Just a simply wonderful game from day 1.

  • @paddycoleman1472
    @paddycoleman1472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is a shame they still do not get on. At the end of the day, they created something special in the mid-80s and surely it is now time to acknowledge that and put all the heartache behind them.

  • @martin.pokorny
    @martin.pokorny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the galaxy in 6 bytes and an algorithm?!? I have goosebumps (no exaggeration)! What a brilliancy!

  • @AKsevenFOUR
    @AKsevenFOUR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Another excellent doco. The research and detail within these videos is top notch, you could even say; Elite!

    • @FatNorthernBigot
      @FatNorthernBigot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've only just subscribed to KJ. This is a great documentary.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ian Bell an David Braben you created an absolute classic on the C64. When I strayed into "Witch-Space" with the Thargoids they blew me to kingdom come in this warp space void where time speeded up. Also the Trimbles clogged up my engines and obscured my viewing ports as they bred out of control. If you could do a piece on Mercenary it would be great, the game in many ways surpassed Elite on the 8-bit platforms and Paul Woakes who was arguably a genius with 8-bit machines and 3d vector programming sadly passed away in 2017, he was a very private man but I know that people such as Jeff Minter and Archer McClean crossed paths with him from back in the day (there's a photo of them around the internet). Also staff from Novagen are still around and Paul Woakes was a director at a company in Birmingham which he set up with some ex-Novagen staff (named Lighting Reality Ltd which you can find on companies house website for the UK. Also on the C64 I remember purchasing the docking computer for my Cobra MK II and once in a blue moon it messed up and it crashed into the station and blew up my space ship.

  • @CMDR_Verm
    @CMDR_Verm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for a great video, it really took me back to the 80's when I played Elite on my little ZX Spectrum. I lived in a seedy bedsit with my (later) wife and the nights passed uncounted. Looking back it's hard to imagine she ever put up with me but 35 years later we are still married and I'm here playing Elite:Dangerous. I thank Elite in one way because for a long time (14 years) I played Eve-Online which was a (sort of) substitute and my wife joined me in playing. Two PCs, one couple = marital bliss lol. The modern version of Elite is such that I spend more time watching TH-cam videos trying to ''git gud'' than I do than actually playing the game itself, but it's keeping me occupied mentally and that's what I look for. As an FYI, back in 80's when I was almost crying with frustration trying to match rotation to dock with a station, I found that if I just aligned with the ''letter box'' and flew in a straight line I docked with no problem. I'd be interested to know if anyone else agrees with my experience.

  • @thavashgovender4345
    @thavashgovender4345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kim Justice makes some of the best videos on TH-cam. Keep telling us about then 80s

  • @morenauer
    @morenauer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rest in peace, Sophia.

  • @Ndlanding
    @Ndlanding 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Top-class history of one of the most influential (and enjoyable) games ever. My experience of it is from the original BBC version, and my mate Pete who used to lend me his BBC and ANALOGUE joystick. Thanks, Pete!

  • @Bangkokian1967
    @Bangkokian1967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I remember how amazed I was with this game on my Beeb back in the mid-80’s
    Such an absolute classic game!

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got an Atari 600XL in 1983 and remember a year later being blown away by the intro rotating ship of Elite on the BBC! Alas at that time I could never have afforded that computer!

    • @Bangkokian1967
      @Bangkokian1967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cardcounter21 I managed to convince my parents that having a BBC Micro was essential for schoolwork 😊

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@g_geezer3277 Now we have Elite Dangerous with Oculus Rift. It would be great to be able to play emulations of Elite, Frontier Elite II and Encounters directly within our cockpits during those long trips to Hutton Orbital (;

  • @anthonyspecf
    @anthonyspecf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably due to being from the USA, I played the game rather late. The version I had was Elite Plus (VGA version) I had purchased for our 386 PC. It was one of my favorite old games. I loved writing down trade routes and reading the small novella included in the packaging. It really immersed me into the world.
    Eventually I moved on to Wing Commander: Privateer for my Space trading/bounty goodness, but I will always have fond memories of Elite.

    • @ryanyoder7573
      @ryanyoder7573 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Privateer was so awesome. Also try Starflight 2.

  • @ModernVintageGamer
    @ModernVintageGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Seriously amazing work Kim. Thank you for this

    • @mjretrogamer4819
      @mjretrogamer4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kim is a real treat to those who still appreciate and love vintage computers. I don't remember how I found her channel but so glad I did. Keep up the great work Kim!

  • @DougHolmes
    @DougHolmes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only just found this. A long (long) time ago, I was working on an unofficial Gameboy port of Elite (with the intention of finding a publisher). Unfortunately, that last bit didn't happen. We had the whole thing running at 10 FPS and the whole of the HUD worked as expected, but hey, it's a Gameboy doing 3D, with an entire universe in a cartridge. We even had a toggle to invert the screen colours to extend battery life.

  • @MichaelWerle
    @MichaelWerle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great documentary. Thanks for putting it together.
    Still playing Elite now, and I started a long time ago on my C64. Certainly the most influential game I ever played.

  • @WhatHoSnorkers
    @WhatHoSnorkers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as per usual!
    I have an Elite clone on my iPad called "Unknown" which is no longer available. Docking is a bit easier at least, as I could never manage it on the Spectrum, and whenever I went to hyperspace I'd end up in Witchspace!

  • @SEGAClownboss
    @SEGAClownboss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome video, Kim. I'm not that keen on Elite because I like more goal-oriented games, but I'll never forget the time I went close to a star and opened the scoop from the ship, to harvest gas for fuel. It was such a dangerous situation I was trembling, being so close to the star and seeing the screen ripple and feeling your ship tremble, but I felt like I was a complete badass and that I was accomplishing something grand when I was doing it. Thanks for making this.

  • @TheTobiasVaughn
    @TheTobiasVaughn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zips along so fast, I couldn't believe an hour had passed watching this!Great work!

  • @MrStephen182
    @MrStephen182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Another ace doc. How your channel is not much bigger than it is I'll never know because the best video game docs on youtube are found on your channel.

    • @fakegeek5462
      @fakegeek5462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its because she is transgender.

  • @slartythecyclops4643
    @slartythecyclops4643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OMG that brought back memories of hours of fun on my old acorn electron playing that game (tho bugged so I was perm stuck in the 1st galaxy) to this day is still my fav game ever! Thanks for the nostagic mind trip :-)

  • @dungeonseeker3087
    @dungeonseeker3087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I still maintain that you have a talent for documentary making that exceeds the talents of most people who do it professionally Kim. I just watched an hour long documentary and at the end wished you had continued on with more detail on Elites sequels.
    One of the most interesting films I've watched in quite a while. Is this the same Ian Bell that owns Slightly Mad Studios and is behind Project Cars?

    • @areyouserious3092
      @areyouserious3092 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would say better than most TV narrators.

    • @Yesterzine
      @Yesterzine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not, but like you I made that mistake for years.

  • @jamiecampbell8855
    @jamiecampbell8855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember playing this as a 13 year old on my c64. Mind blowing at the time.

  • @jamesweiner
    @jamesweiner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always enjoy your documentaries - glad to see another - and as enjoyable and intriguing as ever. Thank you!

  • @marvthereddevil5418
    @marvthereddevil5418 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the fantastic nostalgia trip Kim! Elite was a huge part of my childhood on both the Electron, then A3010 & I thought you told the story extremely well :)

  • @werre2
    @werre2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The radar was a stroke of genius

    • @drewardnamthor
      @drewardnamthor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original radar had two separate views (an x and z access radar). It was quite hard to track targets with that. the 'periscopes' emerged after a discussion between Bell, Braeburn, myself and Alan Bellingham who was the test engineer on the project.

  • @davidkennedy1077
    @davidkennedy1077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to play the original Elite at my mates house on his BBC B and loved it. I later moved on to consoles myself, so was amazed to see Elite Dangerous was a game available on Xbox. It was great playing another Elite game over 30 years later!!!

  • @Ketma73
    @Ketma73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Without a doubt one the greatest titles ever to play out on the gaming stage....I remember picking this up and playing it on my Spectrum, crazy how I still use the same keys, N, M, S, X, A to play Elite Dangerous today - and i never needed a docking computer ;)

  • @imaner76
    @imaner76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderful journey, you have taken time and effort to produce this, thank you. I enjoyed my memories of Elite [insert version here] as I watched. The "back stabbing" does not take away my pleasure in playing the games, but I still have a sense of sadness for them not finding common ground. Time and tide is against us all, I do hope they can find some of what is left to reconcile.

  • @RossardJames
    @RossardJames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yet another incredible documentary Kim. Impeccable research and information perfectly balanced with telling an entertaining story.

  • @natsume-hime2473
    @natsume-hime2473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for finally covering Elite Kim. I just started the video, one thing you said still stands out: You cannot deny Elite's legacy. It arguably spawned the entire realistic space simulator genre. Not only that but 35 years later, Elite: Dangerous is out and already nearly 5 years old, yet still one of the best looking games on the market still and one of the most compelling open ended games around.

  • @Jayce_Alexander
    @Jayce_Alexander 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm seriously excited by this. Elite is one of my favorite game franchises of all time, and no one could do justice to a game series this ambitious like you could, Kim!

  • @AndrewNorrisMusicTech
    @AndrewNorrisMusicTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been really looking forward to this one, Kim. Thank you so much! Love your work. :)

  • @greedygreggor
    @greedygreggor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    ive been sooo looking forward to this; many hours spent on the speccy version. Awesome vid Thanks Kim!

    • @steveetienne
      @steveetienne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too. I remember the circular cardboard codebreaker very well! Loved the Amiga version too - blew me away the first time i played with full colour graphics and music

  • @zachreddy
    @zachreddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video. Wish I’d found Elite back when I was a kid with access to a C64, but even years later it’s very impressive.

  • @COOL-DROPS
    @COOL-DROPS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice , well researched, lengthy doc, thanks Kimbo .

  • @davidkennedy1077
    @davidkennedy1077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad you've covered this Kim, you're a legend!!! No one covers gaming development anywhere near the depth you do!!!

  • @impaler_7425
    @impaler_7425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for another amazing documentation! Cheers!

  • @Rorschach.
    @Rorschach. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After 39 years, having enjoyed Elite on my Electron, CPC and PC (particularly MP's "TheNewKind") I am once again bouncing around the galaxies in Oolite and having a blast! I am an Elite:Dangerous founder and keep my version updated but for me, the relative simplicity of the original Elite, together with Oolite's expansions, mean I truly believe I'm flying around in Rob Holdstock's elegantly painted universe. Right On.

  • @technickuk
    @technickuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great documentary Kim, as always. An hour long but doesn't seem like it, as the pace was just right.

  • @rhaeven
    @rhaeven 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "I never mastered docking and it's as difficult here as anywhere else" lewd

    • @SuneSalminen
      @SuneSalminen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "...such as a galactic map and a wanking system", "Bell-end Braben"...

  • @aidandegg4176
    @aidandegg4176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a cracking vid. Kim Justice, Elite, and over an hour - happy days

  • @Monkey_SK
    @Monkey_SK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done Kim, another amazing documentary on a video game classic.

  • @DavidAinsworth37
    @DavidAinsworth37 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last, i have really been looking forward the Elite story, good work Kim, thank you.

  • @mrtiff99
    @mrtiff99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Kim. Much appreciated. Work and research you put in really show.

  • @Podgemaster
    @Podgemaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent doc Kim. Really enjoyed this one mate.

  • @joedent3323
    @joedent3323 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cheers for this Kim.
    I tracked down the novela that came with this: "Dark Wheel" - and its a great little read.
    Im now going to play it for the first time, tomorrow, on my Amiga.
    Thanks as always, Kim. Your videos help me to relax and to train my mind on sonething that I love.

  • @divinuminfernum
    @divinuminfernum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome! I love all the Elite games, i just wish i could stop careening out of control into planets in the older versions , but i love it and it got me interested in Traveller!

  • @erwindewit4073
    @erwindewit4073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely brilliant! Brilliant game and absolutely brilliant video! A documentary which could be an example to many others to my opinion.. I was lucky then as a friend of mine owned a BBC Micro as in the Netherlands the Spectrum, C64 and MSX were much more famous! The version I used to play is also the Amiga version. Even though I did try the C64 version too.. But I never really had the patience to accomplish much at all 😂

  • @jamesroberts8971
    @jamesroberts8971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great documentary of one of my favourite 8/16bit games :) Very detailed and very interesting.

  • @ItsCrapContent
    @ItsCrapContent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video...will need to see about supporting you cos I've really enjoyed quite a few of your vids recently x

  • @cmdrablearry3815
    @cmdrablearry3815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work, saved to favorites for a re-watch later.
    Thank you very much Sir 👍

  • @realmwatters2977
    @realmwatters2977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I Played this game for 5 years straight, and ranked Dangerous good times been!

  • @peterobinson3678
    @peterobinson3678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome video about totally my favourite game ever... had the original Elk version, and it blew me away. The BBC versions were definately the best, inho, but I am probably rather biased!
    TBH, i was rather shocked at the main screen size on the 16 bit versions - like looking thru a letterbox!
    My only disappointment was the only tangential reference to Oolite, which is virtually the same game with a 00's graphical update and a few bells and whistles, and which I still play for hours at a time today - SOOO much better than Frontier was! Might be worth a short vid of it's own...?

  • @cascad
    @cascad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And another great video from you. Thank you very much for this !

  • @thecatsonholiday5932
    @thecatsonholiday5932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to play traveller. And my mates for elite on BBC micro. Such innocent times. Thanx for igniting my memories. Excellent job Mr kim!

  • @simonoleary9264
    @simonoleary9264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the speccy version when it came out. From what I remember, it wasn't the first wire-frame game, but was the first to have hidden line removal.
    Even now it still amazes me that they managed to get all that onto a 48k speccy.
    I played it for ages and it took me about 2 years to reach Elite (I was doing 4 A-Levels at the time).
    I can recommend oolite if you want to play it again, but with greatly improved graphics.
    Fantastic video, look forward to more of them ☺

  • @leytonjay
    @leytonjay ปีที่แล้ว

    Really well researched and put together. I've only ever played Frontier Elite II, I got it back in the 90s on my Amiga 500 and I've gone back to it so many times. I'm a Mac guy now, but I keep an old laptop PC so I can play Frontier Elite every now and again.

  • @OliverHarper
    @OliverHarper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Superb work Kim! A really interesting retrospective that has a great pace to it. Hardly feels like an hour long video.

    • @davidelliott8016
      @davidelliott8016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of my favourite youtubers commenting on another of my favourite youtubers about one of my favourite games! It doesn't get much better!

    • @kommissar.murphy
      @kommissar.murphy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is this,a crossover episode?

  • @bearmatic
    @bearmatic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent as always, Kim!

  • @Sorrowablaze
    @Sorrowablaze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh yes,this is great! I love Elite, and Kim's wonderful presentation

  • @JimBCameron
    @JimBCameron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Probably the highlight of my youth (longer tbh) was becoming 'Elite'!

  • @davidkennedy1077
    @davidkennedy1077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is truly incredible, I'd say this is one of your best documentaries yet (although, as a fan of the series, I may be a little biased!) I loved every minute, and it's great that you even detailed the Braben/Bell spat and continued legal issues (that I knew absolutely nothing about!)

  • @1989ArcadeBar
    @1989ArcadeBar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering how this would play on the NES... now I am going to grab a copy! Fantastic video, as always.

  • @henrygerard2315
    @henrygerard2315 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Only an hour long?? You slacker!

  • @KangoV
    @KangoV หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yeah, military lasers all round. This takes me back! I remember my dad walking through the door with a BBC Micro, Cumana 40/80 track disk drive and Microvitec monitor. My mum went mad. He just said "shut up, he needs to learn this stuff, it's the future". How right he was.

  • @dylanarcher827
    @dylanarcher827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A 3d open world game in 1984!!! Sooo far ahead of its time. Spent many hours playing this on my Beeb, never reached elite.

  • @aw34565
    @aw34565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb video. I spent Christmas 1984 playing Elite on my Acorn Electron. Any chance of more videos on gaming on Acorn machines? Geoff Crammond, for example, wrote Aviator and Revs for the BBC Micro before moving onto Stunt Car Racer for the Amiga and the Micropose Grand Prix series for the PC.

  • @valley_robot
    @valley_robot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To this day I play “ no mans sky “ in VR , it’s how I remembered “elite” back in the day , imagination fills in the blanks

  • @ukaszp.3667
    @ukaszp.3667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another awesome doc :) Brough a nostalgia tear :)

  • @mrpositronia
    @mrpositronia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing stuff, thanks Kim! :)

  • @rpgduck
    @rpgduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always very detailed and will presented. Well done :)

  • @CRG
    @CRG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic look into the world of Elite. Frontier Elite 2 was the game I spent by far the most time with back in the day on my A1200 but the first 1 I have to admit I've never really played but I'll have to give it another go. Hopefully you'll be doing a follow up on this looking at Frontier???
    Your videos are fantastic Kim, helps me get through the work listening to one of your documentaries. Keep up the good work.

  • @goodfodder
    @goodfodder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion the original on the beeb is the best example of games programming genius ever; pushing the host machine to its limits whilst creating an entirely new gaming genre

  • @ThePerradox
    @ThePerradox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    (Inter)stellar video Kim. Much thanks. :)

  • @flash_bowski
    @flash_bowski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic stuff. Well done Kim.

  • @markhooper279
    @markhooper279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing. The comment about how you can't imagine playing this in 1984.... It literally took you away. Many parents thought that you needed a mental health asylum. You lived it. It was the most important thing, period. No text can sum up the impact.

  • @thomaseland3136
    @thomaseland3136 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's rarely mentioned that not only the docking comes from the 2001 movie, but also the Harmless, mostly harmless, dangerous etc. references come from the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy books by Douglas Adams.

  • @thenevergrown5009
    @thenevergrown5009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to Elite Week for heads up on this vid. Thanks Kim for the story, was great to find it all out! :)

  • @jasontaylor8658
    @jasontaylor8658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent documentary. Thanks!

  • @ZimMan2
    @ZimMan2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Fabled for its exciting sitcoms and its inhabitants' ancient loathing of sitcoms." That... that's one of the best sentences I've ever heard.

  • @Chr0n3
    @Chr0n3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember the old one. Got PS4 and NES versions. Love to escape through them. Thank you!!!

  • @Alex-sx8uz
    @Alex-sx8uz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great piece, thank you.

  • @Lucasrainford
    @Lucasrainford 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent gaming doc! as always :)

  • @amcadam26
    @amcadam26 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video as always Kim. Loved Frontier on my Amiga 1200 back in the day. Now play the odd hour of Elite Dangerous in VR using my rift, quite the graphics upgrade!

  • @chrisatkins2026
    @chrisatkins2026 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very enjoyable documentary. When I played the Spectrum version of Elite it was tough to say which was the toughest task: docking manually in game or getting the ridiculous Lenslok anti piracy system to work and unlock the game to play. Have played most versions but surprised to see a version for NES in there. My first memory (encounter) with Elite was someone at school bragging about their rating as they owned an Electron and a copy of the game. Must have been 1984 or 85. So long ago now but happy days.

  • @onyxboxuk
    @onyxboxuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another wonderful documentary. Thank you :)

  • @kevinstrade2752
    @kevinstrade2752 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an American, I never heard of this game unfortunately. Not until about 10 years ago. I have since purchased it for my Commodore 64. I havnt gotten far in it but I could see the potential. Simply an amazing achievement! !! Of course I bought dangerous elite and have been playing that for years and still enjoy the hell out of it!!! Very glad that elite has finally getting the recognition it deserves! !!!

  • @Dragonblaster1
    @Dragonblaster1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ian Bell was my best friend at school; St. Albans School in Hertfordshire.

  • @Loren344
    @Loren344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is wonderful, thank you. this goes into many fascinating aspects of the game's creation which i have not seen covered elsewhere, like the political context.