INSANELY GOOD: VW Golf 5 R32! VR6 POWAH! // Nürburgring
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00:00 Intro/Specs
01:22 Lap - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thank you for taking me for a lap! One of my favorite memories with the car 😎
Thanks for sharing this ride experience with us! I drove the Golf 3 VR6 and I loved the sound, and miss it still today. That was music to my ears 😃👂
Nette wagen! Heb je deze zelf geimporteerd of als import gekocht via een NL dealer?
Great hearing the R32!🎺👍 Clean car.😎
@@Chris89-- via een dealer, helaas echter niet meer in mijn bezit nu.
is it the resonated or non resonated scorpion exhaust you have I also have a mk5 r32 and am thinking of changing the exhaust
Had a mk5 R32 manual as my first car. As others said, not the fastest, but that sound stays with you forever. Miss it to this day.
Wish I had a 32 for my first car🤣 good job 👏
Haha 😂 i had a corsa 1.0 beast 👍😂
What car do you have now?
Had a d reg 1.3 205 gr in burgundy 😂
My second car. I think off the sound so often. My neighbour just got one and it pastes a smile every time that VR6 growl drives past on the weekends.
Good ol’ vr6..that fuel gauge😂👌🏼
A quarter of fuel tank in one lap is crazy
Is normal v6 drinks!
@@ChillBeats96 I own one … she likes a drink, but doesn’t drink as much as my B7 RS4 😅
The fuel tank was reduced in size in the mk5 from the mk4 R32. 14.5 gallons compared to the mk4s 16.5 gallons. Same issue with the RS3/TTRS. 14.5 gallon tank is too small for these engines
My friend had a 1.4TSI 160HP mk5 Golf and it was also chugging fuel like crazy. He lent me it for a week when he went on a vacation with his family and I absolutely hates the fuel economy on that. From a short 10KM drive or so, the fuel gauge kept droping lines almost everyday. Definitely one of the best and most comfortable cars ive ever driven.
Mk5 r32 owner here enjoying yet another cracking r32 vid! 🎉
R32 is a legend. The V6 is a legend
actually its not a v6
@S54VR6 then what is it? As far as I know it's the same 3.2 V6 from the golf 4 R32
@@nlocnil3602 it’s a vr6. Vw just labeled it v6 because of marketing. V6 has two cylinder heads, hence the V shape engine. Vr6 uses a single head.
@@S54VR6people can’t get over the fact it says v6 on engine cover 😂 it’s called clever marketing everyone knows what a v6 is not many know what a vr6 is
I have one, owned since 17k miles. Manual, recaros. I have a B7 RS4 too, but the R32 still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it 😁
Wow, that says alot. I have the mk4 R32 (tornado red) which I've had for almost 18 years, but the b7 RS4 is a dream car for me (along with many other cars (both euro and Japanese) in my imaginary garage). I would have thought the b7 would have made you forget about the R32, but good to know the old girl can still do it for you. Question: how do they compare, especially handling-wise (I don''t know if you ever go 9/10ths or explore the limits with these cars)? Neither are exactly lightweight. However, I have only heard good things about the b7 Rs4 unlike some other Audi RS models. I often hear that it doesn't typically understeer the way other Audi's do, especially with the rear-biased quattro. Definitely one of the most unique RS Audi's ever. One of the best looking as well (who doesn't love swollen fender flares). Would love an Avant version. Also, how is reliability? I heard maintenance can drain the wallet. And then there's the need to carbon clean...
@@Jeff_F7 how do they compare, it’s a good question. Someone told me before I bought the B7 that it’s twice the power, twice the running costs but not twice the car as the R32 and I would agree with that statement. I think it also very much depends whether you are comparing a well spec’d R32 with a bog standard B7, or whether both have had some subtle mods done to improve power and handling, like both of mine have. The B7 RS4 if not properly maintained like you have indicated can be incredibly down on power. I’ve seen them as low as 330bhp which is crazy for a car that is meant to be 414bhp from factory. Carbon cleaning is essential, as is a stage 2 remap here in the UK to really bring them alive and turn them into the proper RS they should have been from the factory. Mine is running 450bhp it has had a recent carbon clean, stage 2 tune, deflapped manifold, full catless exhaust system and it really is a quick car. It’s much faster than the R32, but I can see how an untuned, carbon’d up example wouldn’t feel much quicker than the R32. The V8 revving to almost 9,000 RPM is intoxicating and just makes you want to keep driving it. The DRC suspension although excellent is very problematic so most including myself swap this out for coilovers. I’m running KW V3’s on the RS4 and Bilstein B14’s on the R32. Both cars handle amazingly. I also have H&R sway bars fitted to both. I absolutely explore the limits of both cars - they are both weekend toys, especially the RS - I wanted it tuned this way as it’s purely for fast road/track and not a daily at all. If I had to say which one handled better I would say the RS although the R32 with the mods I’ve done is incredible. I feel I can drive the R32 on the absolute limit whereas I haven’t reached that in the RS yet. As for RS reliability…. Pretty reliable honestly. As long as you buy one with the big jobs already done or budget for the big jobs. These are: carbon clean, brakes, oil cooler, aux radiator, drc suspension. Once these are addressed, they should in theory be pretty bulletproof and the engines are bulletproof. They are both really special cars, but the B7 is just super iconic. Manual V8, huge flares, bucket seats and flat bottom steering wheel out of a Lamborghini Gallardo, Gallardo brakes too. There’s a reason they are more expensive than the 7 year newer B8 model …
I’d like to keep them both forever, but if I had to sell one tomorrow, the R32 would go.
@@JC_46 here I've been debating selling my mk4 R32 (owned for 12 years) for a B7 RS4. we didn't receive the wagon in the US, so I'd replace a nice two-door hot hatch with a sedan to make it easier taking my kid to cars and coffee. I've owned B6 S4 and B7 A4, so I'm reluctant to get back into a B6/B7, but that 8k rpm V8 and manual keep calling my name.
@@RatBustard the MK4 R32 is a really, really special car. Not as good chassis wise as the MK5, but it’s definitely more special. Reminds me of the B7 RS4 in that it’s got big wide arches and looks really mean from both the front and rear. Whereas the MK5 doesn’t look as special, in my opinion.
Not sure how much MK4 R32’s are worth in the states assuming that’s where you are, but I know B7 RS4’s are double and even triple in some cases the price of what they are in the UK over there, so it’s whether you can justify it. Also not only didn’t you get wagon’s, you also didn’t get the flat bottom steering wheel or the bucket seats which really do help make the RS4 special IMO. I know lots of guys buy these from Europe and ship them over. Still, no matter how good the R32’s are, you really can’t beat a V8 that revs beyond 8k RPM. If you can keep both, do it. If not, maybe after 12 years it will be a welcome change. As I said in my original post though, the RS4 is twice the cost for parts, running costs and fuel but it’s not twice the car.
@@JC_46 yep, states, so the B7 seats and steering are very underwhelming and would be my first mod, if not already done.
mk4 R32's here going way up in value, especially sub 100k mile examples, of which mine is. as RS4's get closer to 100k miles, they get closer to $28-30k USD, so while not cheap, certainly enticing as a near direct price swap with a mk4 R32. but yeah, the brake part cost alone for an RS4 scares me!
I love this sound, such a nice car.
Vr6 r32 r36 w8...its like music for my ears haha.
For daily i drive a passat wagon w8 tiptronic.
I would love too see this car on the track for one time tho😊.
I still remember the day I bought it, haven’t event test drove it, dealer start the engine and I already know she was going to be mine. Still own it, 216.000km and little to none issues. It’s a beautiful car, never driven anything else better as a daily.
MKVs do not get as much love as they should. I think the looks still hold up too. I've had mine since new and its such a fun car! I catch myself looking it from different angles every time I walk up to it and I fall in love with it all over again.
Completely agree, mk4 are good but i prefer the mk5 look and the interiors are 10 times better
I agree, MK5’s are only just now starting to get the love that they deserve. For many, like myself, it’s not the best looker and that’s why it gets overlooked. It doesn’t look very aggressive. But that’s not to say it looks bad. It doesn’t. I prefer the looks of the MK4, but the MK5 upped the game when it comes to handling, by far. And it’s the last to have that sweet VR6.
Also had ours since new, great car - when i am able to drive it. Ours is identical to this one though includes the factory sunroof. While it may be slightly slower, it feels much more planted in the corners than a GTi and still goes like stink, especially in the wet, with the added benefit of being able to cruise comfortably like a GT.
Misha, I feel like adding a little VW geek correction: technically the VR6 is not a V6 because it is a narrow angle that allows for a single head. Reason why they sound so different from a V6.
I guess this was the only opportunity to add something to your skilful videos, while most of the time I am only learning.
Another reason for the difference in sound is that it actually has the timing and firing order of an inline 6.
@@Retrotyp Makes sense. I did not know that! I love inline 6s sound. I have a VQ35DE 350Z and although it is better then a four pot, it is not a great sounding engine and it is hard to make it sound good with modded exhausts.
The typical VR6 wookie grunt comes from uneven intake spacing. All cylinders get their air from one side like an I6, but of course they're not in line but staggered.
@@ropeburn6684This post is getting more and more comprehensive. Thanks man! I didn’t think of it. Just like a Subaru boxer, which should sound exactly like a inline 4 but due to different header lengths on the exhaust does sound d dramatically different.
Technically it is a V6 there is a 15 degree V angle so it’s a V6 that it has 1 Head doesn’t mean it isn’t a V6
Keeping my R32! Future classic! So happy to see one on this channel
I'm honest, I didn't expect it to be so good, wow
Ohhh, I miss mine now. I had mine for 9 years, and I loved it too bits.
Had one of these for 6 years, one of the best factory tuned cars for the price point (Better brakes, seats and suspension than gti)
reliable long term too
Yes a mk5/6 gti can be tuned quicker, this feels much more refined. Cheers!
The sound when cruising a 6 cylinder ❤ thats why i got a hyundai tiburon 2.7 v6 its only 170hp but the sound and feeling of driving a small manual 6 coupe close to the ground is amazing
VW introduced rear independent axle on FWDs on the mk5.
AWD golfs have rear independent suspension since the mk2.
Great lap, always fun to hear a VR6.
I have a mk5 with a 1.9 TDI and I have to say even though it's not a sporty trim it still handles surprisingly precise. Very enjoyable platform, I feel like it's underrated.
0:56 im pretty sure that VR6 is already sippin enough since birth :D
I've been waiting for your video today Misha😆
Been waiting for this! 🔥
Brilliant golf mk5 R32
Thank you
I miss my R32 so much. To this day still my favorite car I ever owned.
Mishas expression when he is pleasantly surprised is priceless :) I really want to bring my mk5 Gti to see what it can do , 330hp , lsd , coilovers , big brakes :D
This is one of my favourite cars and if not like a dream car project, Thanks for giving us this experience Misha ❤
Not the fastest but those VR6 engines sound damn good!
Most impressive thing about them is how planted they feel because of that engine also it feels like it doesn't run out of steam at at the top end
That car was getting lighter and lighter. That fuel gauge was dropping fast lol.
Its a small (big) price to pay for such a cool car definitely worth the bad mpgs hahahaha
Mk4 Golf R32 had DSG and independent Axle too
uk didnt get dsg
I think he meant independent wishbone style - I think the mk4 was like a trailing arm type? Still independent of course
He did clarify that a bit later in the video.
only 500 mk4 DSG made
@@eatthisvr6 also not the US :)
Great cars the mk5 r32. They can be pretty dang quick round a track too with a proper tyre/suspension/brakes upgrade. And a real weapon in the wet with a haldex mod, felt like if it was on rails.😄👍
Wow. I have a TT 3.2 VR6 manual in Cape Town SA. 120 000 km . Full service history by Audi . As new. Amazing motors. Thanks for this video
picked up a rough one of these, slowly getting it fixed up, such a fun car!
My dream car atm! Love how it sounds. And even the suspension after 20 years on my Mk5 fsi is great aswell!
Very nice, was like you Misha, not expecting how it handled like it did, fantastic lap!
What a beauty!!! And that sound 😍😍
Great cars. I miss mine. Was a great car on a twisty back road
I was waiting for a mk5 r32!! I love mine
I love my Mk5 R32
I love my MK5. All this baby needs breaks wise is better fluid, more aggressive pads, SS lines and slotted rotors. It will be a huge difference. No need to go overboard with crazy BBKs.
i had a golf 6 R and it was a lot of fun on the Nordschleife. After it I got an Audi RS3 which was pure rubbish. Golfs are really good cars. just love for them. My first car was a golf 5 1.6 gt sport. Good start for the Nordschleife. Was not fast but I learned about the ring.
Had mine since I was 18 , owned it 17 years I still love it
I had a Sharan VR6 manual. When you closed your eyes as a passenger, it sounded and felt so fast. But the picture, when you open your eyes, didn't fit at all ;-)
True mk4 golf's were solid rear axle, but the mk4 R32 was independent rear. Also, as an R32 owner, wow pleasantly surprised to hear Misha mention lift-off oversteer (4:35) in an AWD haldex R32.
Bro you are at 1.25M now? WTF? It's the offseason! lmao congrats so much. I've been rooting for you for a long time now and it's great to see it finally blow up. Incredible.
I love this car so much, thanks Misha and owner
Nice seeing an R32 in the channel Misha! Happy to own one!
The best VWs are from this era, truly great cars
Nooo not the TopGear "Torsion Beam rear axles cause understeer"! Clarkson lied!
The front suspension on the Golf 4 was just really bad, much better on the 5!
And you can also upgrade to some nicer TT front suspension parts to be extra fancy 😉
I own a Passat with the same engine, 3.2 fsi.. it's a dream
golf 5 had a great suspension system
It’s amazing how fast that fuel gauge drops
The best thing, they have their factory claimed power in real. Halle77 had a lot of R32 on their Dyno, and if they are in good condition- no problem with the ignition, or intake or something else - they had their 250 ps. Also engines with more than 150.000 km. Unfortunately a lot of R32 where upgraded with turbo kits, or their Block was used for turbo Projects up to morethan 1000 ps. That’s one reason that it would be difficult to find an original R32.
Still a very nice car after all those years. One of the last good cars VW made.
Wow nice, reminds me of a friend’s R reg purple 2.8 12v vr6 golf many years back 1999 I think, felt torque as fk
Aside from the brake performance, it does look like smooth sailing with that car ⛵, just cruising with speed. Very nice.
3:49 superb braking zone face Misha 👌
I put the R32 Golf drivetrain (but manual) in my 7 seater Touran 😀 3.2 VR6, 6 speed manual and 4motion 4WD. Good, "sensible" family car. It'd be hilarious to see it doing this around the 'ring 🤣 ... but, alas, it's here in NZ.
Misha have you driven a Focus RS Mk2? Need to see this! This Golf looked surprisingly good though 👍🏻
vr6 is so awesome.
Hi Misha. What is the best choice for you in terms of sound, handling and power: gta 147 or MK5 R32?
Probably been said a thousand times but the MK4 R32 has independent rear as well.
The fact that these were made to rival gt cars and go this quick speaks volumes. Want fuel economy get a diesel, want fun you’re in the right place 👌
First edition DSG was MK4 R32 Golf
You also driven my Golf 5 2.0 FSI with me and my little brother 2 years ago or so 😊
Ofcourse this one is a bit more powerful 😂
Still got an MG ZR for you to try out in this season 😉
An MG ZR. That would be interesting to see.
17 y.o car still has better quality everywhere than anything new
These things can fly when you add a turbo kit to them
everything can do that if you put turbo on it
Sacrilege. Leave them NA ffs
@@eponymous7910 haahah you sound like my father with his Golf 4 VR6. After 200k miles he's finally going to put an exhaust on it LOL
@@P33CEGAWD that’s the 2.8 right? Quite a rare car those now!
@@TopiT23 everything cant do 600 hp with a headgasket spacer tho
I love these cars i need to get before they keep going up and out of my price range
wow this thing is a real gas guzzler. it consumed 1/4 of it's fuel tank and traveled a distance of only 18km.
i think that's the main reason vw abolished them .they tuned the 2.0t and reached the same power output comparable to the r32 but with much better fuel efficiency.
And a considerably less emotive engine that sounds like wet fart that only an owner could love.
1/4 of a tank per lap 😂💪🏼
geiler Sound best golf R32
Always a solid video! But MkIV R32 wasn’t a fixed axle either.
people hate on the mkv for its looks but they got the best steering feedback of any golf
Hi! How to mount a camera in front of the steering wheel?
That vr6 is the best wag engine ever IMHO, compared to that the 2.0 tfsi was quite the POS
Something about V6's they ALWAYS Sound good :-)
1/4 tank = 1 lap. Quite the fuel consumption.
V6 are thursty
Gutless drinker
to be fair one lap is like 12 miles of wide open driving and they only had a 14.5 gallon tank
I'd love to see the real-time fuel consumption on the MFD!
Just to clarify the mk5 R32 has the 2nd generation DSG. The 1st gen came in the mk4 R32
They only have a few versions in simple terms. Both MK4 and MK5 use the DQ250. The others are DQ200 dry clutch used in like 1.4 TSI etc, DQ500 used in RS3 / Tiguan, and DQ380/381 used in MK7.5 Golf R etc. But there are heaps of different mechatronics, gear ratios, etc. So the mechatronic in a late model DQ250 like in MK7 R is much improved over 2004 TT
Then there are also the longitudinal versions of course
Yes I know that but there is a clear difference in mechatronics between the mk4 R32 DQ250 and the mk5 R32 version. Not to mention the mk5 R32 version went to using a canbus system instead of using the mk4 R32’s version of being wired straight to the controller
@@trozio1 No, both MK4 and MK5 use can bus. I’m not sure what you mean by wired straight to the controller but the engine ECU in MK4 & 5 R32 is essentially the same, Bosch ME 7.1.1. Yes, probably mechatronics used in Mk5 will be a few revisions newer, especially in later models, but not sure what the clear difference you speak of is.
@@coreyw427 What I mean is that the early version of the DSG used analog inputs to determine things like speed, shift paddle position, reverse light control, etc. When the mk5 R32 came out all of this was revised to no longer use these analog inputs.
I’m not sure what you are arguing here. My comment was simply that they are two different generations of the DQ250 DSG separated by clear enhancements made to the TCU, mechatronics, wiring, etc as a result of VAG products becoming more sophisticated.
In other words: the 1st generation DSG was offered in the mk4 R32. The mk5 R32 was the 2nd gen DSG
Miss mine. Drive one with a Turbo.
The fuel gauge from the start of the lap till the end!
You could see the fuel needle moving as you got on the throttle 😅
Definitely smiles per gallon 😂
How bad on fuel are these cars btw? You hear sooooo many mixed reviews on them. Some saying they aren’t any worse than a mk5 gti and others saying for the power output they’re really bad
Sweet!!
Today in light mode! ))
Oh, a wookie!!!
I wonder how this compares to A3 3.2
Lol the gas gage just slurping.
I've just witnessed 1/4 tank dissapear for a lap. Holy moly. This is as bad as my passat.
@Misha Charoudin how does it overall compare to the R36 Passat?
Code Brown on the jump
Fastest gas to heat converter 😂
Mooie auto.
no misha, golf mk4 r32 had independent rear suspension
11:16 Misha got scared
I don't understand why a lot of golf owners remove the rear wiper, it makes zero sense.
Rust and issues
What Kind of tyres it has?
Someone needs to make a new generation golf R32. Put the Atlas vr6 in a mk6R or mk7R
Als Misha nu al Enthousiast is, upgrade de remmen evt. met een cooling upgrade en je kan echt van kiet
Question pls
R32 or r36 ?
i have the same but 1.9 tdi 😆🤣
It sure drinks, 1/4 deposit gone!
Cruise control activated 😇
Great sound! when VW didn't check every penny they spend on parts.
Love the V6 soundtrack.
Is the mileage 178k?