The fact that by the time he's able to venture out after the sun has set he'll discover you gone. He'll be relegated to the shadows and alone again, just like he was for 200 years...I ache
when the realization hit me...and you know what? Even though he is a spawn, I killed the other spawn because I couldn't fathom releasing 7000 hungry vampires into the world...he is truly alone 😭
The worst one is if you take one for the team and become a mind flayer and then do the right thing and *remove yourself* at the end and he shouts "no, wait!" as you turn that knife on yourself 😭😭😭
Spawn Astarion saying poor Gale, and then saying he misses him, more than he thought he would, crushes me! I truly feel like the group makes a strong bond of misfits, even if they nrver want to admit it.
I do like the option to kill yourself as durge. Taking power and autonomy back while you can, a last act of defiance. Even if it's not the happiest of endings... I do wish these endings had more of a reaction from companions. Astarion running away and only Halsin commenting? Not even Tav? Everyone just standing there like "ok. moving on"
I mean, I would like it a lot more if there was actually other options, if they didn't go out of their way to punish not rejecting Bhaal the first time. If the set up didn't make it pretty much impossible to get the 'not good ' endings for your companions where you can actually SEE what happens with them (unless you break anything that makes sense from an RP perspective and have Durge support everyone's 'dark' ambitions to just abandon his own). It's bad enough it's not set up to do smart evil runs, and that Durge, the mastermind of the absolute scheme can't see a more complex answer to the question of appeasing Bhaal. I made the mistake of starting a Durge run before finishing any of the Tav runs I had going... now it just seems like a chore to have to go back to basic Tav JUST to be able to get these endings and still get to actually play a role playing game the way it should be played. Since we can't even look forward to having Durge as a companion, it just feels hollow, and like I'll be forced to play a game I don't want to.
Fiz uma fanfic por causa disso. Escolhi tudo bom, não me entreguei a Baal, ele não acendeu, prometi a ele buscarmos uma cura para o sol. Mas no fim, Tav acabaria morrendo algum dia, pois convencê-lo a não acender deixaria que ele tivesse uma eternidade sozinho, pois ele não poderia fazê-la igualmente imortal. Tudo o que poderiam fazer era aproveitar a companhia um do outro que, caso ele vivesse muito, seria uma pequena lembrança na sua eternidade.
The suicidal sacrifice is less tragic than the losing yourself to the Urge completely, IMO. One is at least a final act of defiance in the face of the inevitable. The other is a total loss of self, identity, and free will. Astarion would at least respect and understand the former even as he grieved terribly.
I don't know, taking control of the Netherbrain is kind of worse for me. At least in this case Astarion gets to cherish the memories while living his life relatively free. I took the netherbrain in my evil durge play through and dominated the mind of my entire party to be my servants. Probably the worst outcome for him considering his past. I had been hoping for an evil power couple but... you reap what you sow.
This is considered the bad ending for sure, for everyone (except you probably if you have followed the evil path). The difference is that for me this ending made me feel so powerless and emotional. The ending where you control the brain is bad but it didn't create those sad feelings this one did. It probably has to do with the fact you don't actually get to see the consequences since the game ends there. You don't see it in this short version but I have the longer one where I sacrifice Gale and it's also one of the things that got to me really badly!
The netherbrain ending actually hurt me way worse. The idea that he trusted and loved you the entire time- him begging you to take the brain right until the end- only to commit him to an eternity as a thrall again after Fel PROMISED he would be spared had me ready to puke. No romance, no ending, just that despondent clapping? Nightmares.
@@LumaFuwari for sure that's bad. I had a weird thing in my good durge playthrough. I kept Astarion as a spawn and I denied bhaal. I was obviously going for the hero ending but then when we reach the brain, Astarion tells me "I know what you're thinking. Do it" and I thought I might indulge just to see what happens before I reload again. The moment I stab the flayer (which was orpheus for me) Astarion yells "what are you doing?" and then ofc I take control and everyone is a thrall. Was this a bug or something? Why did Astarion say do it and then immediately regretted it?
@@WitchHekate I have no idea, on my playthrough I had no options at the end BUT to take it. My Astarion screamed something along the lines of "Do it my love, everything can be ours!" And then I got the freaky clapclaps
i got this ending today and i feel so empty and upset. after what astarion said to you after losing the duel i expected there to be some kind of tragic bittersweet goodbye between them but they didn't get any type of closure at all wtf. also it makes no sense that my character wouldn't run after astarion after he nearly burned alive in front of him. they should've been scared/worried??? the epilogues really need an overhaul oof :(
Act 3 is an unfinished mess and a blackhole for companion interactions. Act 3 lacks a lot of companion content for such a large act with such huge story endings that deserve better reactions and interim scenes.
@@metarraI so agree! The romances felt incomplete in act 3 and the endings made me depressed. It just wasn't enough, I need the option of something longer and more heart warming/hopeful for astarion! 😭 even his good endings are bittersweet at best and halsin's is just super 'meh'
sorry :( if it makes you feel any better I was also crying like a weeping child lol. This is actually so much worse if you think about it. I hadn't realized it at that point but I actually killed all the spawn because I didnt want to release 7000 vampires into the world. Astarion runs away in the end, he doesn't know what happens to you, he's not there in your last moments before you lose yourself or kill yourself. And I killed all the spawn!! He's alone out there!! Damn don't make the same choices as me.
this is the best ending for evil durge tbh, bette thqn killing everyone at the epilogue party. I did this with ascended astarion and he shouted "NO, WAIT" 😅
in my first dark urge run i was actually romancing vampire ascended astarion and i also didnt got a ending with him the romance was 100 so lol. instead i got the karlach ending... and nothing else after... idk it feels like when we go with bhaal and dont resist there is no romance ending like a conversation. i try right now to resist in a other dark urge playthrough
I think Durge might just be bugged to hell. It would be worth joining the forum to discuss, because the devs are trying to fix and flesh out Act 3 and the closing scenes based off customer feedback.
Yeah I just finished an evil durge run romancing ascended astarion and there were no ending cutscenes. Just me sitting on the throne with everyone else mind controlled and then roll credits
Ok yes apparently the only way to get an ending with your RI as durge is to deny bhaal in his temple. Anything else and you end up alone. My butler tricked me! He said I could spare my partner 😭 think of all the unborn bhaal babies!
There's one I think is more tragic. DJ Shart. Karlach goes to avernus along with wyll. Astarion runs away because sun gives him the ouchie booboos. Gale is the bomb literally, and Lae'zell runs off to free her people. You and her are alone. And you kill yourself in front of her. She is alone. Personally, I like that in the moment she sees you are dead, that Dame's last words to her before Shart killed her rings clear in her mind. About going down the pathto become a Dark Justicier will find her abandoned and alone.
@@IIIGioGioStarIII it certainly depends who you have romanced. There are 100 ways this could end tragically. This was the worst to my experience ofc but I'm sure others have had worse endings than this one. In this video I only showed the romance ending but I did sacrifice Gale and that made it even worse for me. I absolutely hated sacrificing Gale and I don't want to do this ever again!
@@WitchHekate for an Astarion romance, yes. This is perhaps one of the most tragic ones. I find the Shadowheart romance with her being a Dark Justicier because she literally is alone. Everyone left her. Even the MC.
Oh god I just thought of something even more heartbreaking… Astarion couldn’t have gotten that far from where you were when you decided to end your own life. He knows what your blood smells like too. He probably knew something terrible had happened to you in that moment but he couldn’t turn back because of the sun setting him ablaze. That thought to me is just heartbreaking, almost stomach churning. Picture this: He finds a dark corner to hide in, his back hits the wall, as he lets out a wail in grief and pain over everything that just happened, then he starts sobbing on the ground. Come nightfall, he learns the truth of your demise. He lashes out in anger towards you, guilt ridden for not being able to save you, regretting not at least saying goodbye. He journeys to the oceanside forest where you first met, taking a seat on a log, numbness in those red eyes. He looks back on his life as far back as he can recall, then recounting every memory he has of you, the good and the bad. The sun begins to rise, the heat sets his pearlescent skin aflame, but he can’t bring himself to mind the physical pain. He feels as though he is being cleansed in a holy light. As he ignites, he peers down at his hands. The same ones you once held in loving compassion. He feels not the flames upon them, but the warmth of your skin in his grasp. His arms wrap around his own body, for he knows that once he goes, he can be in your comforting embrace once more. As he begins to drift away in gentle cinders flowing in the wind, he swears he can feel his heart beat just one single time… then he’s gone. No trace left of him, aside from the blackened scorched markings on the fallen tree he had rested upon moments ago. You are both finally free. I know, I know, it’s not that deep. Mmmm but it is tho…🥹
@@WitchHekate that is something worse to add on there nuuuu cuz i did too😭 my logic was that they didn’t ask for that life, they would likely go on to kill innocents, they have suffered enough already, the kids probably wouldn’t be welcomed back with the hunters anyway, and my biggest reason was because at least some of them would certainly try and take revenge on Astarion for basically trafficking them even though it wasn’t his choice.
I'm spoiling myself with this video so that I don't make this mistake. What an unsatisfying ending. We should have at least gotten to die in Astarion's arms. Maybe beg of him to drink us dry. Come on. Ugh. If I do full Durge I'll have to Ascend Astarion and become his spawn. Become an evil power couple.
They are working in it! There was news about their commitment to improving act 3 just recently. They said for starters there's a bunch of stuff that is bugged, some of which leading to lost content that never initiates at all, and then there's content they had scrapped that they are going to finish and put in after all based on player feedback, and they generally agree some of the endings need a bit more work to give the closure the characters deserve. So go participate in discussions, cuz this is a rare studio that actually gives a shit about the fans and about their game as a work of art unto itself.
I had a 15-minute video ending and I was really satisfied. I promised non-ascended Astarion we'd find a solution to the sun issue together, and he was happy to start a new adventure. We saved Baldur's Gate, Karlach went with Wyll in the Avernus to kill them all, the emperor died in the final battle, and I killed Orpheus as he asked and gave him a glorious hero death. Lae'zel fled on the red dragon, Gale planned to create another crown for Mystra. Good Shadowheart saved her parents (it was worth a little pain on her hands). The best ending for me 😊 (the one I wanted at least).
@@Lastregona. yes this was my second playthrough basically which I found the best, except I didn't kill Orpheus, just let him and Laezel go back to Astral. I should have killed him though now that I'm thinking it.
Wait you lost to Orin and got ascended anyway? What happened to Orin? Do you just jump her and the other cultists with the 3 remaining members of your party or something? This is super interesting
You don't get ascended, you get disinherited. I have the full video in the description. But other than that basically yes. Your companions kill her and the cultists.
That's why i'm mad i got the best ending possible for every character in my first playthrough (and the good ending) because now, i want more but i don't want to do the nad ending, makes me sad.
I was like, man, are they really going to go through that end game battle for that terrible ending, and then I saw the part about sacrificing Gale and it made me chuckle. Good choice! If you're gonna go down like that, may as well take Gale with you! 😂
I only did it cause I've played that battle so many times I had to take the shortcut. Honestly it made it even worse though. Looking at Gale sacrificing himself because I was too lazy made me weep like a child lol
@@WitchHekatehonestly gale and I have a very... complicated relationship I hate him he irritates me cuz I have no desire or attraction for someone that won't stop drooling and talking about their ex 😂😂😂 but I would never purposely kill him or hurt him I can't even bring myself to chop off his hand when playing durge I either leave him in the portal or take him out and leave him there 😂😂 It doesn't help its like impossible to not romance him 🙄 but that's the thing about him it just gives me the ick Like I'm a side hoe 🤣🤣
@@FlowerSong606 I love Gale, he was supposed to be my romance interest in my first playthrough but the damned vampire seduced me and I haven't been able to romance anyone else
@@WitchHekate That same thing happened to me, lol. I dumped Gale for Astarion twice, and his reaction was so heartbreaking. When you ask "So you don't hate me?" He says something like "I could sooner hate breathing air" and it just killed me both times. So I finally was strong and dumped Astarion for Gale the 3rd time, and Astarion's reaction is hilarious. He basically says he isn't bothered, but will still always get to picture what he did with you... Such a jerk, but I love it. No regrets.
Anyone that complains "This ending is so unsatisfying", that's the point. It's supposed to motivate you to go back and fix your mistakes to avoid this outcome, or start over. You didn't just not reject your father, you lost the Orin fight so handedly that your companions had to come save you. That's his blood in you and he's disgusted that you became such a weak Bhaalspawn and spent the whole time (I assume) defying him like "I can overcome the Urge." And because of moving parts, Astarion doesn't have long enough to hang around before he needs to dip, so you can just leave or kill yourself and he's left to hear about this from the surviving companions - never mind that you sacrificed Gale to do it (which I didn't even realize was an option).
It's a difference in DMing philosophy. Do you punish your players for being evil, or do you let them achieve their evil goals in the end because they are your main characters and the game is about them? Neither are wrong, they are just different. Players are allowed to be unsatisfied with being punished for being evil in a game. Often in DND, at the table, we dole out player consequences, but we don't punish players, and we try to let them "win" - whatever that means to them.
@@mjf40087 Of course. I fall into that mindset when I DM as well. BG3, although basically a D&D module in video game format, is a video game. It can be replayed, saves loaded, etc. Unlike a real D&D game with other people and a human DM, you can do-over hours of content if you messed up or explore all the outcomes of big game changing decisions. If anything, the game seems to expect you to sometimes. Because BG3 is a video game, this ending is intensely unsatisfying. It wants you to try again and see the better endings it has ready for you.
@@Eledramel what? In tactical mode or. I'm sorcerer. I made the electric grip and she was dead. I had my Devan and Us with me so she was busy the 2 rounds
I'm SO glad that I accidentally broke the dual by sending Astarion in after Desdemona (my main Tav DUrge who defied Bhaal and was horrified at her past actions and carried Alfira's lute with her everywhere in silent offering for regretting her death)
SPOILERS This happens if you lose to Orin; if you don't give in to your urge and beat Orin, you get the option to basically say 'Fuck you' to Bhaal. For this he takes his 'gift' away, wich kills you on the spot; but withers is there to revive you, free of your urge and Bhaal
Picking the emperor is always worst ending alone. I mean he used us as his puppet and we still should help him? No way 😂 But then again m i never played as Dark urge yet. I still may have to try
This is what happened to me th-cam.com/video/n6JrorKWbCE/w-d-xo.html But yes it doesn't show it but it's implied she kills everyone, or at least tries to
Armour of agility. You can get it in Act 3 by buying it from a merchant called Gloomy Fentonson in Stormshore Armoury - it's close to the Lower City Central Wall waypoint.
Wait how did you get this dialogue? Is this spawn Astarion or before the cazador confrontation Astarion? (spoilers ahead if you don't wanna know *anything* about a fully evil durge playthrough) *** I'm curious because my dialogue was bhaal praising my durge before blessing me. I had no choice to be evil or good, I was simply chosen and that was that. In my case half of my team mates got pretty hyped for me. Gale and shadowheart were a little nervous but were happy to no longer be the only two chosen but that was about it. Minthara and Astarion were very happy talking about dominating the world together and Papa blessing our evil plot. My Lae'zel was sacrificed for the Slayer so not sure what she would have thought. Basically I didn't let any of my team mates make good choices in my run. We were all murder hobos. I didn't even have the option to try and dissuade Shadowheart nor Astarion in their arcs from being bad, they just automatically went ahead with murdering their parents for power and sacrificing 7,000 souls for ascension. ***
It's weird you didn't get the option to choose if you want to embrace bhaal or not. From my experience you always have the choice. I have a playthrough where I went full evil durge, killed anyone I had to and my companions also made all the bad choice and I still had the option to deny bhaal, convince Astarion to not ascend and I even had to convince shadowheart and laezel to make the bad choices cause those 2 make the right choice by default if you don't intervene. The DC die is really high to convince them to kill nightsong and bow to Vlaakith. In this specific video, Astarion is spawn so I had already dealt with Cazador and convinced him to not ascend. It doesn't matter though, even if you go there before you deal with Cazador, or if he has ascended, you still get the same response from him in this particular scenario. The scenario is: just lose the battle with Orin, let her kill you. That's all. Spoilers for ending for chosen of bhaal path: Also if you accept bhaal fully and become his chosen, you can only take the crown for yourself in the end. If you try to be a hero and save everyone, you get this ending in the video. Basically as chosen of bhaal you have no option to get the ending romance sequence with your RI. Except Karlach, you can see her ending (if she's even alive).
@@WitchHekate I was talking to a friend the other day about this issue, because I was pretty surprised to see you had choices I didn't. I ended up streaming my game with them and well turns out my issue isn't related to going full evil durge at all. For some reason some of my dialogue choices just didn't show up and I would get just a "continue" button. Apparently it's a dialogue bug if you skip through the audio too much, so I must have just been rushing and it was just selecting whatever came first. Because oddly enough, although I didn't see the dialogue box choices, I would end up in the dice roll screen and see up above what had been selected. I assumed this was intended, and it certainly is not lol. Going back in my saves proved this because reloading did give me the dialogue options this time. So all of what youre saying makes sense now. And I was able to go back and see some missed dialogue that also now lines up with part of yours. (I'm guessing because I'm hard of hearing and have adhd that... when I'm rushing during dialogue, I'm missing important things and not noticing because I either didn't hear the audio well enough or I'm just distracted and not paying well enough attention, along with when you rush too much the game itself can get a bit confused.) Luckily I know most of the evil choices already and how choosing bhaal forces you to enslave the brain, I'm still doing what I intended on doing thankfully. When I eventually do my durge redemption play through, I'm definitely going to take some of the more important scenes a lot slower this time around lol. I do appreciate you replying though! I'm used to other games giving you a game over anytime you die, so I never even knew you could die to Orin and it be a valid choice in game. Very useful information, and this video ended up being way more insightful than I realized lol.
@@Hikarixhikarixhikari I'm glad it was helpful :) Yes the "continue" thing is a known bug, or maybe it's intended to be that way in order to avoid bugged dialogue. If you see it again I'd suggest saving and reloading to get all the dialogue options otherwise you miss some stuff for sure since it only picks the first dialogue option. Death is actually rarely a game over. Unless you get a whole party wipe or you pissed off someone who has godlike powers, it's unlikely that would be the end of your game. Sometimes you might just get a different ending if you choose the "obviously bad" option - like with Gale or Emperor.
@@WitchHekateso... Just to be sure because I was planning on playing Durge - you can "survive" and still have a romantic ending for example with Astarion? Cause in my durge I want to live along Ascended Astarion in the end :D
@@DikobrazFilth the only way to get a good ending as durge is if you beat Orin and then deny Bhaal so you're freed of your bloodline. Then yes, you can get the hero ending and live happily ever after with your sweetheart. If you lose to Orin, or accept to be Bhaal's chosen, you only get bad endings.
I sacrificed Gale because I've played this so many times that I decided to take the short way out. Karlach is dead in one of my choices, I've made multiple to get different answers and cutscenes
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I uploaded a new video on what happens in the epilogue after patch 5. Check it out here th-cam.com/video/n6JrorKWbCE/w-d-xo.html
Love how Halsin trys to find a good reason to get you from killing yourself and he goes like 'Dont do this because.... ah well... uhm....' 😂
it reminds me of the "no don't kill yourself you're so sexy aha" meme lmfao
@@eatdetergentI'm SCREAMING I heard this in his voice 😂😂😂
I can't believe how funny that ended up being 😭
I mean, there's not much point explaining why a person shouldn't kill themselves when they're currently in the process of disembowelment.
This hurts so much more when you find out Astarion's just hiding behind those crates. He's still THERE but he can't do anything.
doesn't Astarion go down the sewer?
@@annawong3377 If you play has origin astarion you can see him hide from the sun behind the crates waiting for the night
@@annawong3377i think in his origin he just chills behind the crate until the sun goes
The fact that by the time he's able to venture out after the sun has set he'll discover you gone. He'll be relegated to the shadows and alone again, just like he was for 200 years...I ache
when the realization hit me...and you know what? Even though he is a spawn, I killed the other spawn because I couldn't fathom releasing 7000 hungry vampires into the world...he is truly alone 😭
@@WitchHekateOH NOOO. 😭
the most tragic, they didn't even say goodbye to each other, one in shadow, the other in madness or suicide
The worst one is if you take one for the team and become a mind flayer and then do the right thing and *remove yourself* at the end and he shouts "no, wait!" as you turn that knife on yourself 😭😭😭
I didn't know about it.
Killing yourself is always one of the worst possible outcomes. It always feels "too soon" and without closure. I agree.
@@WitchHekate But at least then he doesnt have to wonder what happened to you, i guess there is that.
GOD I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS ONE
IVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THIS WHERE IS IT
Spawn Astarion saying poor Gale, and then saying he misses him, more than he thought he would, crushes me! I truly feel like the group makes a strong bond of misfits, even if they nrver want to admit it.
it damn broke me having to sacrifice Gale so I get him :(
I do like the option to kill yourself as durge. Taking power and autonomy back while you can, a last act of defiance. Even if it's not the happiest of endings... I do wish these endings had more of a reaction from companions. Astarion running away and only Halsin commenting? Not even Tav? Everyone just standing there like "ok. moving on"
Ascended Astarion does comment since he's there and doesn't have to run away from the sun. Not much though
The 'killing yourself so [Evil Force] can't" is always a really bittersweet option at best, but I like that it's there too. Durge died how they wanted
I mean, I would like it a lot more if there was actually other options, if they didn't go out of their way to punish not rejecting Bhaal the first time. If the set up didn't make it pretty much impossible to get the 'not good ' endings for your companions where you can actually SEE what happens with them (unless you break anything that makes sense from an RP perspective and have Durge support everyone's 'dark' ambitions to just abandon his own). It's bad enough it's not set up to do smart evil runs, and that Durge, the mastermind of the absolute scheme can't see a more complex answer to the question of appeasing Bhaal.
I made the mistake of starting a Durge run before finishing any of the Tav runs I had going... now it just seems like a chore to have to go back to basic Tav JUST to be able to get these endings and still get to actually play a role playing game the way it should be played. Since we can't even look forward to having Durge as a companion, it just feels hollow, and like I'll be forced to play a game I don't want to.
Honestly all Astarion romance endings are bittersweet
Fiz uma fanfic por causa disso. Escolhi tudo bom, não me entreguei a Baal, ele não acendeu, prometi a ele buscarmos uma cura para o sol. Mas no fim, Tav acabaria morrendo algum dia, pois convencê-lo a não acender deixaria que ele tivesse uma eternidade sozinho, pois ele não poderia fazê-la igualmente imortal. Tudo o que poderiam fazer era aproveitar a companhia um do outro que, caso ele vivesse muito, seria uma pequena lembrança na sua eternidade.
Nah, the Good Spawn one is very cute.
The suicidal sacrifice is less tragic than the losing yourself to the Urge completely, IMO. One is at least a final act of defiance in the face of the inevitable. The other is a total loss of self, identity, and free will. Astarion would at least respect and understand the former even as he grieved terribly.
I don't know, taking control of the Netherbrain is kind of worse for me. At least in this case Astarion gets to cherish the memories while living his life relatively free. I took the netherbrain in my evil durge play through and dominated the mind of my entire party to be my servants. Probably the worst outcome for him considering his past. I had been hoping for an evil power couple but... you reap what you sow.
This is considered the bad ending for sure, for everyone (except you probably if you have followed the evil path). The difference is that for me this ending made me feel so powerless and emotional. The ending where you control the brain is bad but it didn't create those sad feelings this one did. It probably has to do with the fact you don't actually get to see the consequences since the game ends there. You don't see it in this short version but I have the longer one where I sacrifice Gale and it's also one of the things that got to me really badly!
The netherbrain ending actually hurt me way worse. The idea that he trusted and loved you the entire time- him begging you to take the brain right until the end- only to commit him to an eternity as a thrall again after Fel PROMISED he would be spared had me ready to puke. No romance, no ending, just that despondent clapping? Nightmares.
@@LumaFuwari for sure that's bad. I had a weird thing in my good durge playthrough. I kept Astarion as a spawn and I denied bhaal. I was obviously going for the hero ending but then when we reach the brain, Astarion tells me "I know what you're thinking. Do it" and I thought I might indulge just to see what happens before I reload again. The moment I stab the flayer (which was orpheus for me) Astarion yells "what are you doing?" and then ofc I take control and everyone is a thrall. Was this a bug or something? Why did Astarion say do it and then immediately regretted it?
@@WitchHekate I have no idea, on my playthrough I had no options at the end BUT to take it. My Astarion screamed something along the lines of "Do it my love, everything can be ours!" And then I got the freaky clapclaps
@@LumaFuwari oh no I'm doomed again. I hope this is a bug and you can actually avoid it as an evil durge. I want the cutscene after!
i got this ending today and i feel so empty and upset. after what astarion said to you after losing the duel i expected there to be some kind of tragic bittersweet goodbye between them but they didn't get any type of closure at all wtf. also it makes no sense that my character wouldn't run after astarion after he nearly burned alive in front of him. they should've been scared/worried??? the epilogues really need an overhaul oof :(
this is so true. it just doesnt make sense to see your most beloved one almost desintegrate in the sun and not say a thing
Act 3 is an unfinished mess and a blackhole for companion interactions. Act 3 lacks a lot of companion content for such a large act with such huge story endings that deserve better reactions and interim scenes.
Hopefully they fix it in the next patch. As well as the new Ascended Astarion kisses where Tav look scared/ disgraced/ disgusted during.
@@metarraI so agree! The romances felt incomplete in act 3 and the endings made me depressed. It just wasn't enough, I need the option of something longer and more heart warming/hopeful for astarion! 😭 even his good endings are bittersweet at best and halsin's is just super 'meh'
Holy crap I didn’t even know this was possible I assumed that it would be an automatic game over for losing the Orin battle
My heart is now broken.
Props to the Bhaal voice actor! Never want to hear a bedtime story from him lol!
That's the witcher for you haha
Damn this made me cry, that empty feeling, that 'nothing' hit very hard
Geez, the goodbye scene after the curse made me cry. And then you made me cry again with the post credits
sorry :( if it makes you feel any better I was also crying like a weeping child lol. This is actually so much worse if you think about it. I hadn't realized it at that point but I actually killed all the spawn because I didnt want to release 7000 vampires into the world. Astarion runs away in the end, he doesn't know what happens to you, he's not there in your last moments before you lose yourself or kill yourself. And I killed all the spawn!! He's alone out there!! Damn don't make the same choices as me.
Thank u for making this end I'll never play through, it really hurts😭
This is my headcanon ending that i did deliberately. So much angst, i love it.
Sometimes it has to be a tragedy 😢
this is the best ending for evil durge tbh, bette thqn killing everyone at the epilogue party. I did this with ascended astarion and he shouted "NO, WAIT" 😅
Why did I watch this? Why did this appear in the recommendations? Whyyyyyyyy 😭😭😭
Oh baby....you're not gonna live another thousand years after this, and he knows it. 💔😭
in my first dark urge run i was actually romancing vampire ascended astarion and i also didnt got a ending with him the romance was 100 so lol. instead i got the karlach ending... and nothing else after... idk it feels like when we go with bhaal and dont resist there is no romance ending like a conversation. i try right now to resist in a other dark urge playthrough
I'm ending my evil durge playthrough now with ascended Astarion and I'm curious to see what happens
I think Durge might just be bugged to hell. It would be worth joining the forum to discuss, because the devs are trying to fix and flesh out Act 3 and the closing scenes based off customer feedback.
Yeah I just finished an evil durge run romancing ascended astarion and there were no ending cutscenes. Just me sitting on the throne with everyone else mind controlled and then roll credits
Ok yes apparently the only way to get an ending with your RI as durge is to deny bhaal in his temple. Anything else and you end up alone. My butler tricked me! He said I could spare my partner 😭 think of all the unborn bhaal babies!
@@WitchHekateI denied Bhaal, but Orin killed me. Do I get the bad ending now as well?
Not the worst ending, but the most tragic for sure lol
There's one I think is more tragic. DJ Shart. Karlach goes to avernus along with wyll. Astarion runs away because sun gives him the ouchie booboos. Gale is the bomb literally, and Lae'zell runs off to free her people. You and her are alone. And you kill yourself in front of her. She is alone.
Personally, I like that in the moment she sees you are dead, that Dame's last words to her before Shart killed her rings clear in her mind. About going down the pathto become a Dark Justicier will find her abandoned and alone.
@@IIIGioGioStarIII it certainly depends who you have romanced. There are 100 ways this could end tragically. This was the worst to my experience ofc but I'm sure others have had worse endings than this one. In this video I only showed the romance ending but I did sacrifice Gale and that made it even worse for me. I absolutely hated sacrificing Gale and I don't want to do this ever again!
@@WitchHekate for an Astarion romance, yes. This is perhaps one of the most tragic ones. I find the Shadowheart romance with her being a Dark Justicier because she literally is alone. Everyone left her. Even the MC.
@@IIIGioGioStarIII doesn't she control the house of grief and has a friend there?
Oh god I just thought of something even more heartbreaking… Astarion couldn’t have gotten that far from where you were when you decided to end your own life. He knows what your blood smells like too. He probably knew something terrible had happened to you in that moment but he couldn’t turn back because of the sun setting him ablaze. That thought to me is just heartbreaking, almost stomach churning.
Picture this:
He finds a dark corner to hide in, his back hits the wall, as he lets out a wail in grief and pain over everything that just happened, then he starts sobbing on the ground. Come nightfall, he learns the truth of your demise. He lashes out in anger towards you, guilt ridden for not being able to save you, regretting not at least saying goodbye. He journeys to the oceanside forest where you first met, taking a seat on a log, numbness in those red eyes. He looks back on his life as far back as he can recall, then recounting every memory he has of you, the good and the bad. The sun begins to rise, the heat sets his pearlescent skin aflame, but he can’t bring himself to mind the physical pain. He feels as though he is being cleansed in a holy light. As he ignites, he peers down at his hands. The same ones you once held in loving compassion. He feels not the flames upon them, but the warmth of your skin in his grasp. His arms wrap around his own body, for he knows that once he goes, he can be in your comforting embrace once more. As he begins to drift away in gentle cinders flowing in the wind, he swears he can feel his heart beat just one single time… then he’s gone. No trace left of him, aside from the blackened scorched markings on the fallen tree he had rested upon moments ago.
You are both finally free.
I know, I know, it’s not that deep.
Mmmm but it is tho…🥹
Also something you don't see in the video. I chose to kill all the vampire spawn and his siblings seemed a bit pissed off. He's truly alone out there
@@WitchHekate that is something worse to add on there nuuuu cuz i did too😭
my logic was that they didn’t ask for that life, they would likely go on to kill innocents, they have suffered enough already, the kids probably wouldn’t be welcomed back with the hunters anyway, and my biggest reason was because at least some of them would certainly try and take revenge on Astarion for basically trafficking them even though it wasn’t his choice.
you made me cry 😢😢😢😢
@@CristalBear we need to sometimes
So beautiful!😭😭
I'm spoiling myself with this video so that I don't make this mistake. What an unsatisfying ending. We should have at least gotten to die in Astarion's arms. Maybe beg of him to drink us dry. Come on. Ugh. If I do full Durge I'll have to Ascend Astarion and become his spawn. Become an evil power couple.
Except if you ascend him you don't become a couple, he's just your douchebag ex.
Oops, nevermind on full Durge. Never go full Durge. Lol
Elaborate pls
you can let him make you a spawn and he becomes possessive and treats you like an object@@spikem5950
>Become an evil power couple.
Weird way to describe "sex slave pet to a dude trying to take over the world", but pop off king.
At least if durge becomes mind flayer , it’s logic redemption arc for durge, and not so tragic.
All of the endings feel so empty. I will be glad when/if they ever polish Act 3/endings.
I also want more. Even the scene you get in the end is not enough to cut it
They are working in it! There was news about their commitment to improving act 3 just recently. They said for starters there's a bunch of stuff that is bugged, some of which leading to lost content that never initiates at all, and then there's content they had scrapped that they are going to finish and put in after all based on player feedback, and they generally agree some of the endings need a bit more work to give the closure the characters deserve. So go participate in discussions, cuz this is a rare studio that actually gives a shit about the fans and about their game as a work of art unto itself.
I had a 15-minute video ending and I was really satisfied. I promised non-ascended Astarion we'd find a solution to the sun issue together, and he was happy to start a new adventure. We saved Baldur's Gate, Karlach went with Wyll in the Avernus to kill them all, the emperor died in the final battle, and I killed Orpheus as he asked and gave him a glorious hero death. Lae'zel fled on the red dragon, Gale planned to create another crown for Mystra. Good Shadowheart saved her parents (it was worth a little pain on her hands). The best ending for me 😊 (the one I wanted at least).
@@Lastregona. yes this was my second playthrough basically which I found the best, except I didn't kill Orpheus, just let him and Laezel go back to Astral. I should have killed him though now that I'm thinking it.
Wait you lost to Orin and got ascended anyway? What happened to Orin? Do you just jump her and the other cultists with the 3 remaining members of your party or something? This is super interesting
You don't get ascended, you get disinherited. I have the full video in the description. But other than that basically yes. Your companions kill her and the cultists.
That's why i'm mad i got the best ending possible for every character in my first playthrough (and the good ending) because now, i want more but i don't want to do the nad ending, makes me sad.
I was like, man, are they really going to go through that end game battle for that terrible ending, and then I saw the part about sacrificing Gale and it made me chuckle. Good choice! If you're gonna go down like that, may as well take Gale with you! 😂
I only did it cause I've played that battle so many times I had to take the shortcut. Honestly it made it even worse though. Looking at Gale sacrificing himself because I was too lazy made me weep like a child lol
@@WitchHekate I haven't been able to bring myself to watch that ending yet. I love Gale too much to see that 💜
@@WitchHekatehonestly gale and I have a very... complicated relationship I hate him he irritates me cuz I have no desire or attraction for someone that won't stop drooling and talking about their ex 😂😂😂 but I would never purposely kill him or hurt him I can't even bring myself to chop off his hand when playing durge I either leave him in the portal or take him out and leave him there 😂😂
It doesn't help its like impossible to not romance him 🙄 but that's the thing about him it just gives me the ick
Like I'm a side hoe 🤣🤣
@@FlowerSong606 I love Gale, he was supposed to be my romance interest in my first playthrough but the damned vampire seduced me and I haven't been able to romance anyone else
@@WitchHekate That same thing happened to me, lol. I dumped Gale for Astarion twice, and his reaction was so heartbreaking. When you ask "So you don't hate me?" He says something like "I could sooner hate breathing air" and it just killed me both times. So I finally was strong and dumped Astarion for Gale the 3rd time, and Astarion's reaction is hilarious. He basically says he isn't bothered, but will still always get to picture what he did with you... Such a jerk, but I love it. No regrets.
Anyone that complains "This ending is so unsatisfying", that's the point. It's supposed to motivate you to go back and fix your mistakes to avoid this outcome, or start over. You didn't just not reject your father, you lost the Orin fight so handedly that your companions had to come save you. That's his blood in you and he's disgusted that you became such a weak Bhaalspawn and spent the whole time (I assume) defying him like "I can overcome the Urge."
And because of moving parts, Astarion doesn't have long enough to hang around before he needs to dip, so you can just leave or kill yourself and he's left to hear about this from the surviving companions - never mind that you sacrificed Gale to do it (which I didn't even realize was an option).
Exactly. The Orin duel is so easy come on 😅😅😅😅
It's a difference in DMing philosophy.
Do you punish your players for being evil, or do you let them achieve their evil goals in the end because they are your main characters and the game is about them?
Neither are wrong, they are just different. Players are allowed to be unsatisfied with being punished for being evil in a game. Often in DND, at the table, we dole out player consequences, but we don't punish players, and we try to let them "win" - whatever that means to them.
@@mjf40087 Of course. I fall into that mindset when I DM as well.
BG3, although basically a D&D module in video game format, is a video game. It can be replayed, saves loaded, etc. Unlike a real D&D game with other people and a human DM, you can do-over hours of content if you messed up or explore all the outcomes of big game changing decisions. If anything, the game seems to expect you to sometimes. Because BG3 is a video game, this ending is intensely unsatisfying. It wants you to try again and see the better endings it has ready for you.
@@DanilepticIt is? She went into slayer form and killed me in two hits :o
@@Eledramel what? In tactical mode or. I'm sorcerer. I made the electric grip and she was dead. I had my Devan and Us with me so she was busy the 2 rounds
That TellTale ending though for the video xD
I'm a drama queen lol
Good times, good times. Never finished S2 though.
I'm actually crying omg
you killed gale you monster!
I'll take that judgement. I already hate myself for it 😭
I'm SO glad that I accidentally broke the dual by sending Astarion in after Desdemona (my main Tav DUrge who defied Bhaal and was horrified at her past actions and carried Alfira's lute with her everywhere in silent offering for regretting her death)
Excuse me as I mop up my tears
Damn, that tav is pretty
Oh but this was crazy, didnt know about this outcome with bhaal
yea i dont htink i can continue playing my durge campagne. it would break me
If you defy Bhaal you get a happy ending, don't worry
it is fine actually, just dont lose to Orin :)
That - just broke my heart - shit.
So wait, does this happen if you don't give into your urge at all? Like don';t even kill Alfira or her replacement?
I don't think you have a choice with some of those things
@@prabalp4020 The only other thing I can think of is this is because you intentionally lost to Orin.
I got this. (Before my cowardly reload) but it happens when you lose the fight against Orin
SPOILERS
This happens if you lose to Orin; if you don't give in to your urge and beat Orin, you get the option to basically say 'Fuck you' to Bhaal. For this he takes his 'gift' away, wich kills you on the spot; but withers is there to revive you, free of your urge and Bhaal
@@shivala🎉 ahhh so exciting🤘
Wow this was intense!
Picking the emperor is always worst ending alone. I mean he used us as his puppet and we still should help him? No way 😂
But then again m i never played as Dark urge yet. I still may have to try
It breaks me
When I played this ending the ending party had my Urge driven character kill everyone. Did this scene trigger for you?
This is what happened to me th-cam.com/video/n6JrorKWbCE/w-d-xo.html
But yes it doesn't show it but it's implied she kills everyone, or at least tries to
astarion is kinda tragic compared to everyone i mean majority of the time something bad happens, kinda how it is with him 🤷♀
I let him acend and got a different dialogue. Just a heads up :)
Yes my current playthrough is all about ascended Astarion so I'm gonna see it soon
7:45 WOW that is so grisly tbh
IM NOT CRYING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really didn't need that heart of mine. 💔
wow this is so sad
I read the comments and decided not to watch video for the sake of self-preservation🤡
What armour ur character wearing in end ? its so beautiful ❤
Armour of agility. You can get it in Act 3 by buying it from a merchant called Gloomy Fentonson in Stormshore Armoury - it's close to the Lower City Central Wall waypoint.
@@WitchHekate thank youuu i immediately bought it lol 🩷
Wait how did you get this dialogue? Is this spawn Astarion or before the cazador confrontation Astarion?
(spoilers ahead if you don't wanna know *anything* about a fully evil durge playthrough)
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I'm curious because my dialogue was bhaal praising my durge before blessing me. I had no choice to be evil or good, I was simply chosen and that was that. In my case half of my team mates got pretty hyped for me. Gale and shadowheart were a little nervous but were happy to no longer be the only two chosen but that was about it. Minthara and Astarion were very happy talking about dominating the world together and Papa blessing our evil plot. My Lae'zel was sacrificed for the Slayer so not sure what she would have thought. Basically I didn't let any of my team mates make good choices in my run. We were all murder hobos. I didn't even have the option to try and dissuade Shadowheart nor Astarion in their arcs from being bad, they just automatically went ahead with murdering their parents for power and sacrificing 7,000 souls for ascension.
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It's weird you didn't get the option to choose if you want to embrace bhaal or not. From my experience you always have the choice. I have a playthrough where I went full evil durge, killed anyone I had to and my companions also made all the bad choice and I still had the option to deny bhaal, convince Astarion to not ascend and I even had to convince shadowheart and laezel to make the bad choices cause those 2 make the right choice by default if you don't intervene. The DC die is really high to convince them to kill nightsong and bow to Vlaakith.
In this specific video, Astarion is spawn so I had already dealt with Cazador and convinced him to not ascend. It doesn't matter though, even if you go there before you deal with Cazador, or if he has ascended, you still get the same response from him in this particular scenario.
The scenario is: just lose the battle with Orin, let her kill you. That's all.
Spoilers for ending for chosen of bhaal path:
Also if you accept bhaal fully and become his chosen, you can only take the crown for yourself in the end. If you try to be a hero and save everyone, you get this ending in the video.
Basically as chosen of bhaal you have no option to get the ending romance sequence with your RI. Except Karlach, you can see her ending (if she's even alive).
@@WitchHekate I was talking to a friend the other day about this issue, because I was pretty surprised to see you had choices I didn't. I ended up streaming my game with them and well turns out my issue isn't related to going full evil durge at all. For some reason some of my dialogue choices just didn't show up and I would get just a "continue" button. Apparently it's a dialogue bug if you skip through the audio too much, so I must have just been rushing and it was just selecting whatever came first. Because oddly enough, although I didn't see the dialogue box choices, I would end up in the dice roll screen and see up above what had been selected. I assumed this was intended, and it certainly is not lol. Going back in my saves proved this because reloading did give me the dialogue options this time.
So all of what youre saying makes sense now. And I was able to go back and see some missed dialogue that also now lines up with part of yours. (I'm guessing because I'm hard of hearing and have adhd that... when I'm rushing during dialogue, I'm missing important things and not noticing because I either didn't hear the audio well enough or I'm just distracted and not paying well enough attention, along with when you rush too much the game itself can get a bit confused.)
Luckily I know most of the evil choices already and how choosing bhaal forces you to enslave the brain, I'm still doing what I intended on doing thankfully. When I eventually do my durge redemption play through, I'm definitely going to take some of the more important scenes a lot slower this time around lol.
I do appreciate you replying though! I'm used to other games giving you a game over anytime you die, so I never even knew you could die to Orin and it be a valid choice in game. Very useful information, and this video ended up being way more insightful than I realized lol.
@@Hikarixhikarixhikari I'm glad it was helpful :)
Yes the "continue" thing is a known bug, or maybe it's intended to be that way in order to avoid bugged dialogue. If you see it again I'd suggest saving and reloading to get all the dialogue options otherwise you miss some stuff for sure since it only picks the first dialogue option.
Death is actually rarely a game over. Unless you get a whole party wipe or you pissed off someone who has godlike powers, it's unlikely that would be the end of your game. Sometimes you might just get a different ending if you choose the "obviously bad" option - like with Gale or Emperor.
@@WitchHekateso... Just to be sure because I was planning on playing Durge - you can "survive" and still have a romantic ending for example with Astarion? Cause in my durge I want to live along Ascended Astarion in the end :D
@@DikobrazFilth the only way to get a good ending as durge is if you beat Orin and then deny Bhaal so you're freed of your bloodline. Then yes, you can get the hero ending and live happily ever after with your sweetheart.
If you lose to Orin, or accept to be Bhaal's chosen, you only get bad endings.
They really shafted us with the Astarion endings. They are all pretty crap.
1. A ending with astarion that doesnt make me cry, 2. Romance gortash 😢
Is this the only Astarion romance durge ending?
No, this is just one of the bad ones. You can have happy endings
What a bad ending, and Gale is dead too :( you detonated him just to make it more dramatic didn't you? Is Karlach dead too? :P
I sacrificed Gale because I've played this so many times that I decided to take the short way out. Karlach is dead in one of my choices, I've made multiple to get different answers and cutscenes
prob let Wyll kill Karlach
Asterion comes back at night and drinks you're blood with a smile face
The butler has a sweeter dialogue for you than Astarion does. Act 3 really is botched companion-wise.
This was painful to watch. 🥲