TOYOTA MR2 REVEALED BY BEST CAR MAGAZINE IN JAPAN
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- New generation Toyota MR2 is indeed returning to the market, according to the latest news from Best Car Magazine in Japan. The Best Car Magazine - which often reveals very accurate predictions - outlines a lot of details about the return of this legendary MR2. Two possible designs are being explored, both in full gas version and not hybrid or EV format. In addition, the magazine talks about next gen GR 86, next gen GR Supra, and potential for LFA II with 4.0-L twin turbo V-8. So much to learn from this newest rumors from Japan. David explains all in this latest video.
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I am just glad that Toyota is giving a middle finger to the EV world.
Yup
They literally aren't. They have an entire ev market. That's not giving a middle finger to anything. This is even slated to be their last all ice sports car model in terms of new platforms.
@@MuShinnen nay
@@americandude3825 Doesn't matter if you don't like it.
@@MuShinnen I have read the new Toyota ceo say they only plan to make ev about 25% of their line up because majority doesn’t want it.
I have been a Subaru fan for a few years now, I love its AWD system. But after they discontinued the STi, turbo Forester and manual transmission models, everything has been downhill disappointing. I might switch to Toyota, they keep their Sports cars and off-road segments quite alive! Way to go Toyota!
Someone said Toyota intentionally killed the Subaru performance segment to eliminate competition.
@@ferravette That’ll be an interesting debate, but honestly do they need to?
Emissions and electrification regulations, the talk about stepping on the toes of Toyota is laughable
The new 2.4 motor that’s boosted that comes in the new wrx and ascent is really good Can make some power and is reliable the main problem for Subaru and most manufacturers is the CVT trans that goes out. So if you do get a wrx, get a manual
Soon CVTs will rule the land. With their plastic parts, plastic fasteners, and inability to fix the issue unless you go to a dealership maintenance bay and they pry the thing open.
MR2 with the square back looks perfect
Please let this rendering be the one! Loving the retro, modern look.
This is the double deck. It definitely looks much better than the single "red color" deck.
Yeah the red one just looks like a Ferrari body kit (and looks a bit dated already like an F360) but the double deck (best part about a 'proper' MR2 like my 88 Super Charger) retains Toyota's own design legacy so I hope it goes that way for sure.@@ΔημήτριοςΚαραβασίλης-ω5λ
Side profile of the white/silver/grey one is perfect! Red one doesn't do much for me as it just looks too close to a Ferrari clone. I prefer the angular purposeful look of the grey one, similar reasons I've always preferred my MK1 (88 SC) to the soft looking MK2 and the bland looking MK3.
Wow, the new design language from Toyota and Lexus are so much better than just a few years ago. Just look at the current Prius vs the last gen. Looks like they hired a new design team. The Ferrari like design on the MR2 and the new Lexus coupe are amazing! This is so exciting for the auto industry!!.🤩
I was quite confused by the new Prius Prime. Visually a completely different animal. The mark II MR2 is an amazing car. I hope they capture out that balance and feel for this new MR2.
Toyota/Lexus finally moved away from designing cars for senior citizens. Performance is still lacking though , hence Lc500
@@Abercrombemonkeyto be fair, it is what it’s supposed to be:
A plush comfy GT cruiser
Not that anyone will be able to afford it.
I love the double deck version more. I really hope it’s not limited in numbers and that’s it’s not exclusive to Japan…🤞
Reminds me of the F430
Won't be limited to Japan. Almost every car is designed, engineered and market placed for America now.
EU will probably get fcked again , no Nissan Z for us... 😢
If it's ev big faliure
looks good! but it's pointless if it's not avaiable for us to buy one.
Very excited for a new MR-2, but NOT coming to the U.S.?! How disappointing!! And $100,000?! …..seems like they could’ve turned a GR86 into a mid-engined design, with two seats, and sell it in the U.S. for $45,000!! 🤷🏼♂️. ……Still happy Toyota is back to producing sports cars, but disappointed about U.S. future for a 2 seat, mid-engined “reasonable” MR-2.
Only 50-100 units would be so disappointing :(
I previously owned a 1984 MR2 that was accessible to someone just starting out. To see this targeted well beyond the reach of many of its original owners is disappointing. I guess we’ll just have to pretend with a Corolla GR and forget about the mid-engine handling of yesteryear. 11:06
I really like that white model.
hopefully these would be "the flagship" models. But Toyota should highly consider that one of the fundamental characteristic of the 3 generations of the toyota MR2 is that it was it's affordability. 80K to 100K will be way too steep to maintain that affordability. Besides, didn't the 3 generations of the MR2 symbolized affordable fun cars to drive? One will bring up "get a miata" if you want an affordable small sports car. But the mid engine lay out of the MR2 makes it a better than the miata. As an autocrosser that owns a Gen 1, I will say that a small mid engine car (Toyota..LOL) is a lot more fun to drive than a MR small sports car. There's something "magical" about the feel of an MR car when you toss it around the course. "Dear Toyota please make the MR2 affordable to common people! I would like to get an affordable one to keep my Gen 1 MR2 company in my garage!"
Your forgetting how bad the suspension has been in all 3 generations whereas the miata came with aluminium double wishbone
Your forgetting how bad the suspension has been in all 3 generations whereas the miata came with aluminium double wishbone
Your forgetting how bad the suspension has been in all 3 generations whereas the miata came with aluminium double wishbone
@@Shadow1986 suspension were not that bad on the gen 3 as far as i know.
I really hope they offer one with three pedals 👍
I’m loving where Toyota is going
David, You missed all the snow and ice in Vancoooouver.🥶 I always enjoy these tours of Best Car magazine. If Toyota builds a sports car that outperforms the GR Yaris, it will be a major accomplishment. I am a little disappointed not to see any more news of the Land Cruiser FJ in this issue.
US Toyota dealerships salivating thinking about $20,000 markup..
$30,000 markup
Nah!
$100k
ONLY 50 to 100 Units, for 'True Collectors' ?? - - What a BUMMER ! ....
I owned two MR2’s back in the 1980’s, a 85 and 86. I absolutely loved them and always will. If Toyota actuality makes a new MR2 bring to North America.
So basically might be unobtainium... Guess I'll continue to enjoy my SW20 GT-S 🙂
Cool! That could easily reach supercar status merely by dropping the high revving Lexus 5.0 liter NA V8 into it.
Do you know what a mr2 is? A v8 would never fit in there.
@@yvonjasser If you can fit a 5.0 V8 into a Miata, you can make one fit in the new MR2. It's not rocket science. It's engineering. Nothing's impossible...
@@barrydraper a 225hp pushrod 5.0 in a Miata is the opposite of good engineering and they drive like shit
Nice I Just wish they had a New Pop Up Headlight Design
I really do not trust Toyota to build this, but I would love it if they did!.....and if they would really want to make me happy then please come out with a new Supra that is all Toyota built by Toyota
as an owner of a dark blue '88 MK1 Super Charger I'm more a fan of the grey/angular car. Didn't like the mk2 or 3 as they went to softer styling (among other reasons), but the MK4 (and MK1 SC) would be great book ends to the entire MR2 legacy (even if we can't actually buy one for sensible money and outside of Japan).
Looks absolutely incredible, but at $100k and 50-100 units/Japan-only exclusivity, there's no reason for me to care about it unfortunately. I wish the market ethos was more in line with the original MR-2s.
Thank you for your video. PLEASE, DEAR GOD AND LORD OF ALL THIGNS, MAKE IT A CONVETIBLE!
The rear end of the second rendering looks like the Ferrari SF90 😮
You lost me at "3 cylinder". Oh well. It was a wonderful dream, while it lasted. Dont call it a sports car with a 3 cylinder. Its a shame.
This is so exciting! Kudos to Toyota, bringing back the legendary midship! I used to own an SW20. Pleaseeee sell this in the US. 絶対買いますから～😀
M(e)R(eady)2❤
Toyota really is the best JDM company that we all needed
If it is less than $50k US and available in America, I'll buy one no question.
Glad to see this car in gas only.
Being a MR2 owner I’m excited of this news!!
@Toyota, please bring back the T-Top or Targa Top. It's not an MR-2 without it. :) Love the T-Top
Imagine a car the same size as the original MR2, sub 1200kg, and running the Yaris GR 3 pot with 300hp.
If the the MR2 comes with a T-top I would get one.
That silver version is beautiful. Too bad it’s rumoured to be only for the Japanese market. I would sell my Lexus LC500 to get this if it was released in Australia.
It looks gorgeous.
Everyone saying not "EV" it's actually a sports car. I'm all for a V8 and all but EVs can also be sports cars, it's the format of the car not the engine. That said EVd would still rock most combustion sports cars, that's from from sedans and even 4WD. I'm not an EV fan, I'm just calling it like it is. I drive a V8 guzzler 2 door Mustang. So relax.
I'm still loving my sw20
Very nice looking , not so sure about the engine with the price of the car , a lot can change before 2026.
Toyota if smart will dominate the world with an mr2 mass production line that brings back the bang for the buck!
the future is cars like the 1992 mr2 on Crack under 35k
Limited MR2 would be outstanding. But only Japan market is disappointing. It should a limited spec in each market. 100 for Japan, 100 for USA, 100 for Europe, 100 for Australia, 100 for Asia. Each spec slightly different from the other markets
Hi! Still no word about the fate of the legendary LS? I think killing the LS would be a terrible idea! They just need to make a much better one than the current generation, and for God's sake make a stronger engine with around 500 hp!
A light weight, front-mid engine layout with the g16egts and a 6 speed manual and an optional 4.0L tt v8 would be the best thing. Call it the new supra. Build Lexus models off that with the 2.4L turbo hybrid base and a 5.0L 2urgse. That would make 4 cars, ranging from 35k- 90k.
04:23 How many total units now? Welp, my excitement for the MR2 can also be added to the list of things that stop inside the braking distance of the Cybertruck.
We need info directly from Toyota, as that is a ridiculously low and exclusive number units. I can't even fathom how a completely new platform, that won't cost $100k base, could ever be greenlit. The even stranger part, is how it is claimed that Toyota will use a gas ICE (likely that 3-pot as mentioned), as a way to prove ICE's are still relevant and exciting for sports car enthusiasts. Since this isn't even some new expensive technology, producing 300+hp, why would this not be available, with a $60-ish MSRP, for far more units? Thinking, a couple thousand. Not like, 100.
I would've expected to see this more as a base Corvette competitor, at a roughly equivalent price point. It's got a gasoline.engine and 300hp for god's sakes. $100-150k, base? Please.
Toyota is best to emulate the mid-engine Corvette with the new MR2 (or whatever the name will be). NOT the Lotus Emira, IMO.
No EV, and no tiny displacement. It's 2024, grow up! It's time for a V8 or twin Turbo V6 with minimum 400hp and 0 to 60 in .3.9 sec and not small either. At least the size of a Lotus Evora, or Porsche Cayman GT4,
There’s no way I see them dishonoring the MR2 history by making a new mid engine car that isn’t an “MR2”. At the same time there is no way this is a flagship car while only being offered with a 1.6 liter (regardless of power output).
just like movies, lots of sequels fall flat compared to the original, for example, NSX, Supra ... this MR2 probably will follow suit, maybe they should just retire the legendary names.
If it’s going to be limited why make it a 3 cylinder? Why not make a 6 cylinder with the 3 cylinder? $80k-$100k for a 3 cylinder is bs, rather get a C8, A110R or Cayman.
150 units? Inaccessible. And irrelevant. This won’t be any sort of MR2 replacement.
Would like to see a redesigned Supra that doesn’t look so ridiculous.
Cmon Toyota....... Be the one and challenge these C8 corvettes. You're on a roll and people trust Toyota. Print that silver model, make it rear engine with a slightly better/faster engine, 70-90k max, bring it America. Lets go. Ima start saving now!! hahaha
To be a true MR2, it's got to be a cheap-ish, lightweight, midship runabout; with the base model being an MX5/Miata competitor.
Unfortunately, this car will be way out of that price range, even in base model form. I guess a suitable name could be a GR2.
I'm sure it will be wonderful but its just too expensive and up-market to be an MR2.
The silver is the one
Planning to produce limited number of these with this high price tag is disappointing.. why something disappointing always has to come from my favourite car manufacturer in the world? 😤
When the ft1 model was made and propagated as the new supra, I was the happiest money saving planner on earth and was ready to buy one from a dealer as soon as they would come out. Then a completely ugly looking car emerged and I was thinking what the h is that? I read supra at the back so went 😱 nooo what happened to that beautiful image I had in mind??
Then Nissan came with 400z and I was thinking OK the car looks suitable for all ages, more elegant, 400hp this should make ttrs call 911 for help to pass it. Nop, ttrs sprint time remains unmatched, 2 more little seats for my kids, elegant, fast 2.5 400 hp that makes you feel you're in a lambo zoon without emptying your wallet on petrol..
I thought, sadly another disappointment from Japan..
Now, they're talking mr2, with a price tag for carrera 911? and new rx7 mazda and fed up with disappointments. 😤
Over priced, no 0-60 sprint competitiveness, looks strange?
I'm looking at rx7 and how it'll end up.
Thank you. Am not sure, from personal experience, as to what MR2 buyers presently would pay for such!
Sports cars are not selling, havent been for over years. Toyota is losing money on them, in fact most manufacturers are losing money on them. The only reason they are still making them is to generate interest and excitement over the brand.....like a marketing ploy. Everybody loves them, but instead buy a truck or SUV here in the US. Abroad, sports cars are slapped with an import tax making them 3-5 times more expensive, yes, a $30k sports car like a GR86 would cost $30k here, but in some countries......they literally go for like $80,000. Even I had a sports car, but I drive it like once a week. The rest of the time, I drive my SUV. I got tired of paying insurance for it, so I sold it after a few years.
UGH, toyota.... DONT bring back the LFA with a V8. Wow toyota is being driven into the ditch.
When the Mister Two came out in 1995 it was $31,358.79 in 2024 dollars. Betcha this one might be a minimum of 39,999.
One of my most favourite cars that I owned was my 1985 MR2. I had it in my late teens early twenties. I think the product choices for this new one like potentially offering manual, gas only, and mid engine are perfect for a car like this. 2 things that i think would be mistakes for Toyota would be to 1) limiting the numbers and 2) making it a 3 cylinder. I think a big chunk of the target market for this car would be people such as myself (high income earning years with disposable income) So paying $70k would not be a problem. But I would not pay $70k for a 3 cylinder no matter how tuned up it is. For the North America market the 3 cylinder does not make sense in my opinion. The bigger mistake however, in my opinion would be making this in limited numbers so that it becomes a collectors only car. If this is a final "celebration" then build one for everyone who will buy one. The purpose of the halo car is to elevate the brand and build goodwill. Frustrating people who would like to buy this car with limits, dealer markups and making them impossible to get will do the opposite. Let Lexus have the collectors car. In the 2000s when Toyota stopped making sports cars I stopped buying Toyotas. I would probably have bought other Toyota SUVs etc if I didn't feel like the brand abandoned enthusiasts at the time. For this car I could come back to Toyota if they make it a true enthusiasts celebration car for people who will drive them, share them, enjoy them, show them. To do this you need to be able to buy one without feeling like you got screwed. When you buy one of these cars you want to feel like Toyota appreciates your business and the enthusiast buyer. The current trend of screwing enthusiasts by making special models impossible to get unless you are a rich collector is harming car culture.
Only 50 to 100 units?! These are going to get dealer markups like crazy! Very cool looking car no doubt. But a car that will only be a dream for your average car enthusiasts. These will be purchased by car collectors before their VINs are even assigned.
320hp and 1300kg is a bit ridiculous though for 80k but I guess the flagship car always needs to be heavy. You can get similar specs from a jailbroken volkswagen gti though. Other than that it’s a good time to be alive as a car enthusiast so long as you’re young and rich, and can drive well, which very few people are lol. I really hope it also doesn’t look like a ferrari or nsx, I genuinely would not mind if they used the tailights from the yaris lol. I secretly hope it borrows the 90s supra tailight design. And production numbers really need to be atleast 8k imo. Also 1.6 litres for a flagship is ridiculous as well lol they need to do something about that
Another thanks to Toyota for proving people why we need ICEs, we love driving and we love a fun car!
I think they are killing two birds with one stone since they are thankfully snobbing EVs and at the same time, they are also proving to the competition that is not about horse power. I keep seeing car brands competing with each other about who's gonna make the most powerfull car, the thing is on the road we can't use the damn 1000 HP cause there's a 50kph limit!!!!
Some of the best cars of the last couple years are way below competitors in power, cause reality is, all they need is a bit of sound and engagement on the road to be better 🤷♂
OMG I’m seeing love notes to Lotus, the original MR2, love notes to the late Lexus LFA in the genetic codes of its design, especially on the titanium version -the vents, the diffuser. I can’t get away from this car today. Goodnight, if it looks like that -get it. If it don’t look like that… but I hope it does. Save money, pay in full in cash, no loan, no financing -just get it done. I hope that’s the one a lot of concepts out recently like their seeing how the market responds before building I hope the titanium one, is the one. If not, I don’t know.
Yaaay a REAL car. Not a slot car. I’m over this EV thing it’s not saving the planet. Just more mining and the toxic dumping with these battery cars.
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W1
W2 V6 and Turbo
W3
so have to have one ! .. but... they tell us since years that there will be a W4......... think this is also only story.. EV is not MR2 !!!!
Mhhh... Let's sumerise things Toyota is building a MR2 that is an Mr. That's good.... If that want it to be there falagship and build it in limited numbers then that's really bad.
At least it has a Manuel and is a turbo.... But if no one can buy it then it might be better dead....I mean look what happens to the nsx, the supra or the z.....I don't mind that it will be potentially just for the JDmarked at least they get something fun 🎉
if it doesn't have an EV drivetrain it's going to be another still born project. Other companies already have a more advanced engineered engine and transmission. Why do you think the Supra is actually a BMW?
A 3 cylinder? ... Ffs. That's just not appropriate in a car like this. At that price? The last time a major manufacturer put a 3 cylinder engine in a 'sports car' it failed miserably.
im tired of seeing cars with the same grill
If the MR2 is coming, wonder if Honda is going to crack open the time machine and bring back the Prelude?
Carbon fiber, LFA looks....this will not be a affordable midship sports car. Its going to be a 100k car. That is what not the car was about..ever!
Hope Honda decides to send over the S660. At least it will be obtainable.
I feel like Toyota will compound on the trifecta. So Supra leaves the trio then mr2 enters the chat in US. Then 86 leaves the chat and Celica enters as a goodbye to ICE
Toyota is the #1 car factory in the world and they perfectly know that people don't buy EVs....people need cars!
About 5 years back there was talk of Ferrari doing another 'Dino', an entry level Ferrari that is not badged as a Ferrari. Well with this proposed new MR2 it looks like Toyota have beaten Ferrari to it...
80 to 100 grand sounds cheap to me. If it’s only got 320 bhp it’s going to have to be very light or it will be very slow.
Another miss. Shocking. $100K very limited for the “true collector”.
Only 50-100 units? Why not just put the GR Super Sport in production and actually go out with a bang?
Very nice cars, but I wonder if the small 1.3 engine is really sufficient.
The Toyota MR two is really nice… I hope someday comes to the United States in large quantities it would sell like hotcakes in my opinion.🇯🇵🤍❤️
I would like to see this new model to be a flagship Toyota 😂 Lexus mid-engine Sportcars.
Not mass produced? They need to make it a lottery because the gouging will be bad. They should make it a 10k deposit to enter the lottery and if your picked you can buy.
Good information David, I hope in the future Toyota releases a GR version of ht Land Cruiser J250 in North America. I think it would be well received. Toyota sure has brought to market a lot of new/updated vehicles in 2023 & 2024.
This car looks like a audii R8 on the back end and a Ferrari 360 from the side mixed with the LFA and lamborghini on the front
Toyota here doesn't allow you to order a GR86 and never has it stock. Is that going to be the same with this car? If so, hard pass.
It’s gorgeous. 80-100K for a three cylinder though. That’s a stretch.
"A true celebration of gas powered cars',... with a 3 cylinder....?
Well, they just revealed the new MR2(concept) and doesn't at all look like these designs and it's electric as well..
Let's hope it's not a fckuing BMW - I'm sure most know what I'm talking about !
If this new MR2 has a three cylinder engine, I don't want it(even if it's turbocharged)!
If Toyota goes to the route like that, all Japanese Car makers will follow for competition purpose. This is a good sign.
Gas version would be the best for the market now how the dealerships will kill the sales with markups is the real factor.
Hey toyota,i would love to see a flagship mr2 with a twin turbo v6 engine to match the nsx type r or s
IMHO, the design of the all-electric MR2 is much more appealing than this one.
It's design seems to be influenced by a modern McLaren by the front and the rear a Kia stinger.. not bad, great new look regardless lol 🤷
1st looked better but they usually never have it look like certain good concepts. Look at the new supra and The Ft1 it was suppose to look like and needed up looking like junk
I hope it's all Japanese. Unlike the BMW supra. Lol. Aw11 owner!
They better not make it exclusive and stupidly priced. That would be such a shame.
Why do car companies do this? They show you a really cool car that could be a market changer and then sell it to a handful of people that will probably lock them away.
Do not expectulate anymore, fed up with different version......when the real one comes out report it.
I recon the double lift rear will be the design as it’s more conventional as per TMC ethos design ❤