Toyota has never been "all" Toyota. They've always partnered with some other other manufacturer to build their high end cars, mainly partnering with Yamaha as their engine builders.
@@NigelEharis I don't get your logic. Almost all Japanese manufacturers develop their own engines. Toyota seems to always buy their engines from other companies, and the ones they do build are under powered econoboxes.
I mean they don't make thier own transmission either. But I mean if you own a large portion of a company and decide what they do, is it really your or not dunno 🤔
I love these illustrations of both the MR2 and Celica. These designs look perfect. The fact that they will be gas-powered and a 6 speed manual option is a slam dunk. Damn Toyota is kicking ass!
These days it’s safety and fuel regs. A lot of cool designs aren’t aerodynamic enough to make the mpgs or safe enough to pass pedestrian impact requirements. Also money a lot of really cool designs could be made they just aren’t cost effective
I hope the MR2 doesn’t look like all these modern sports cars. They all look ugly and soulless. I would like to see the new MR2 to take inspiration from the 90s look of the sw20
Lots of strange incorrect information here. The GR Corolla is getting the same 8 speed auto as the GR Yaris, it's the same power train. The engine going into the speculated MR2 and Celica replacements is the already published new Toyota 2.0. The pricing was in the article but roughly $70k for the MR2 and $50k for the Celica. Who knows ultimately though regarding hybrid or drive wheels in the end as it makes little sense to do an AWD MR2 if not hybrid front drive. Adds excess weight, complication and 400hp isn't so much the rears couldn't handle it. Celica it makes sense though. Though you have to wonder how many they expect to sell, the Twins sell 6-10k a year and Toyota has seemingly said a version of that is staying around. Supra will barely break 3k units this year, if that. GR Corolla sold 5300 units.This is a lot of investment for two cars that will struggle to sell 5k a year through the model life.
There's a video of the new engine 2.0 that's gonna be placed in to the new MR2 being tested in what is looks like the new IS. And it sounds way too good, so yes is a new engine Toyota is developing
I think this might be incorrect. Pretty sure they’re both gonna be hybrid AWD vehicles. So, instead of a heavy shaft and mid differential with extra friction and power loss, it’s going to be just electric power to the other two wheels. Maybe not, who knows.
Yeah but you get no storage space at all. Even an MX-5/Miata has a usable boot, but unless a new MR2 is the length of the first NSX you won't get that.
The new celics fits the bill if one is searching for a practical sports car. But yeah something about impractical sports car being desirable to me. Suits my need of wanting it only for track use or moderate solo spirited driving.
@@iJakku I think I'm biased lol. I have a 7th gen Celica, with the ability to buy an SW20 Turbo but I'm saving for a GT86 instead. The lack of storage space or not being able to fit my Mum or Sister in the back of my car seems like too much of a compromise to me. Mid engined also seems like it would just be less fun than an FR layout car
The issue with the Supra is that it’s part BMW. Most of the Toyota crowd seems to want Toyota or if it’s another manufacturer at least one that is easier to work on. I could see dealers flat out refusing to work on the new Supras in my the future and finding a good shop to fix them could be difficult. Toyota specialty shops aren’t going to want to mess with a BMW. Maybe the BMW shops?
There's also rumors about the SF-R coming out as well a competitor to the Miata. Personally I think it's much more likely that the 86 and the Supra will end development in 2026 with the release of the three new cars. The Z4 is doing worse than the Supra and the 86 isn't doing amazing either despite outselling the BRZ. The all Toyota lineup seems to make the most sense and the 86 and Supra despite being great cars would be directly competing with new cars. As a current A90 supra owner the MR2 is a very compelling option for me to make a switch.
Hoping for both and the exteriors close to these leaks. If Toyo can keep price under $44K then they will have winners. If close to Supra, Nismo and Vette prices - then a fail.
@@CanadianGearheadIt is pronounced sell-ick-ah in Japan and England. Only Canada would pronounce it like Celeekuh. Canada is not really a real country. I think it’s only you that pronounce it like a Black girls name. I’m going to remember to pronounce it like you next time. It’s hilarious.
It is pronounced the way he pronounced it in Japan, England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, and as far as I know most of world. The US is the only place that doesn't pronounce it like that @scottsvt9104
@NigelEharis correct, and those Celicas that were not the GT-FOUR did not weigh 3300s, they were in the 2300 lbs range. Anything that wasn't a GT-FOUR, in the Celica lineup, didn't weigh more than 3000 lbs. So, my comment could only pretain to the GT-FOUR. Furthermore, in the video, the gentleman referenced the weight being heavier than the 7th gen celica that never had an AWD edition and weighed a lot less. So, the conclusion is that his reference to saying that this rumored Celica is heavier than it's older model isn't actually accurate as the higher performance GT-FOUR has always weighed between 3000(like the ST185) and 3300 lbs(like the ST205). The ST165 weighed in at 3200lbs. Those are the various GT-FOUR's and their weight. From 4th gen celica to 6th gen celica. Hope you could follow along. Thanks.
If toyota can actually pull this off as is speculated, they will secure their spot as my favorite of the modern japanese automakers. An actual engine with no hybrid crap, a manual transmission, and made all in house. That would be insane! It also sounds too good to be true in this market so I'm not gonna get my hopes too high.
I would love a new MR2. BUT!! Will Toyota or the government do something to control the Dealers and their greed? We’re obviously gonna be paying 20k over the MSRP. Meanwhile Toyota over there is gonna keep using the same fucking excuse me “Microchips! Microchips we can’t make cars fast enough. Microchips “ 🤦 Until they make the cars with enough quantity so we can at least buy them at MSRP there’s no point with.
They're not coming out with another MR2 or Celica after the abysmal sales of the Supra and GR. Nobody wants to pay those prices when they can get more out of Chargers, Challengers, and Mustangs for less money.
Nonsense, The MR2 & Celica, Honda Prelude are all coming back, it's not really about sales, but rather passion, this is What Toyota is doing now, the Supra failed because it was a rebadged BMW with no real passion put into it at all, the Celica & MR2 are unique & have their own identity, unlike the Supra
Because right now, many of the member of the car community do not like the current models being offered. Take for example the Corolla, which is now more expensive then a Camry? That doesn’t make any sense and who would buy a mk5 Supra? The only car on the market right now that is decent in my opinion is the new Z car
The mk5’s future is grim because the chassis for it is not continuing its production because BMW killed the Z4. If that dies the current Supra’s future is going to face its demise.
Toyota has never been "all" Toyota. They've always partnered with some other other manufacturer to build their high end cars, mainly partnering with Yamaha as their engine builders.
@@bobbytheitguy4289 even the 3sgte had Yamaha stamped on it :)
Because Toyota has big participations in Yamaha....
@@AlejandroGomez-zn8uq the point is it would be too expensive to do it themselves.
@@NigelEharis I don't get your logic. Almost all Japanese manufacturers develop their own engines. Toyota seems to always buy their engines from other companies, and the ones they do build are under powered econoboxes.
I mean they don't make thier own transmission either. But I mean if you own a large portion of a company and decide what they do, is it really your or not dunno 🤔
I love these illustrations of both the MR2 and Celica. These designs look perfect. The fact that they will be gas-powered and a 6 speed manual option is a slam dunk. Damn Toyota is kicking ass!
I hope it becomes real!
I will never understand why companies struggle so hard to make an aesthetic car.
These days it’s safety and fuel regs.
A lot of cool designs aren’t aerodynamic enough to make the mpgs or safe enough to pass pedestrian impact requirements. Also money a lot of really cool designs could be made they just aren’t cost effective
Cus no one buys them
I hope the MR2 doesn’t look like all these modern sports cars. They all look ugly and soulless. I would like to see the new MR2 to take inspiration from the 90s look of the sw20
Lots of strange incorrect information here. The GR Corolla is getting the same 8 speed auto as the GR Yaris, it's the same power train. The engine going into the speculated MR2 and Celica replacements is the already published new Toyota 2.0. The pricing was in the article but roughly $70k for the MR2 and $50k for the Celica. Who knows ultimately though regarding hybrid or drive wheels in the end as it makes little sense to do an AWD MR2 if not hybrid front drive. Adds excess weight, complication and 400hp isn't so much the rears couldn't handle it. Celica it makes sense though. Though you have to wonder how many they expect to sell, the Twins sell 6-10k a year and Toyota has seemingly said a version of that is staying around. Supra will barely break 3k units this year, if that. GR Corolla sold 5300 units.This is a lot of investment for two cars that will struggle to sell 5k a year through the model life.
There's a video of the new engine 2.0 that's gonna be placed in to the new MR2 being tested in what is looks like the new IS. And it sounds way too good, so yes is a new engine Toyota is developing
I've watched all your 4Runner videos. Never really investigated your channel. Now I subscribed and finally see your also a MR2 owner😂
Great news in all fronts, really excited about this!
3xs the PRICE 🥲
You know what else is predicted with Toyota in 2026? The supra finishes production. 👀
You thinking what I’m thinking?
I think this might be incorrect. Pretty sure they’re both gonna be hybrid AWD vehicles. So, instead of a heavy shaft and mid differential with extra friction and power loss, it’s going to be just electric power to the other two wheels. Maybe not, who knows.
no they are not electric they are gas
Will they be rear wheel drive?
beautiful mr2 u have there sir.
Thanks!
Should use the 2GRFE Turbo like my SW20 for their new MR2.
I'm seeing the new mr2 as a very desirable car for me. Love my awd, and it being mid engine? holy crap thats awesome!
Yeah but you get no storage space at all. Even an MX-5/Miata has a usable boot, but unless a new MR2 is the length of the first NSX you won't get that.
The new celics fits the bill if one is searching for a practical sports car. But yeah something about impractical sports car being desirable to me. Suits my need of wanting it only for track use or moderate solo spirited driving.
@@iJakku I think I'm biased lol. I have a 7th gen Celica, with the ability to buy an SW20 Turbo but I'm saving for a GT86 instead. The lack of storage space or not being able to fit my Mum or Sister in the back of my car seems like too much of a compromise to me. Mid engined also seems like it would just be less fun than an FR layout car
sw20 is unbeatable to the eyes, especially lowered with a greddy kit and aropista wing
Yay is all I haft to say and hopefully it has decent storage
The issue with the Supra is that it’s part BMW. Most of the Toyota crowd seems to want Toyota or if it’s another manufacturer at least one that is easier to work on.
I could see dealers flat out refusing to work on the new Supras in my the future and finding a good shop to fix them could be difficult.
Toyota specialty shops aren’t going to want to mess with a BMW. Maybe the BMW shops?
EV sucks. I wish all auto manufacturers stopped this nonsense.
I totally agree with you
I agree 100%.
emission laws
@@bjsimon802 Emission laws my ass.
@@bjsimon802 laughable
I hope they do and I hope they don't ruin. It
Ill take your MR2 over anything new any day of the week!
I think the upcoming 8 speed is a torque converter; I think I saw a video by carwow.
There's also rumors about the SF-R coming out as well a competitor to the Miata. Personally I think it's much more likely that the 86 and the Supra will end development in 2026 with the release of the three new cars. The Z4 is doing worse than the Supra and the 86 isn't doing amazing either despite outselling the BRZ. The all Toyota lineup seems to make the most sense and the 86 and Supra despite being great cars would be directly competing with new cars. As a current A90 supra owner the MR2 is a very compelling option for me to make a switch.
Hoping for both and the exteriors close to these leaks. If Toyo can keep price under $44K then they will have winners. If close to Supra, Nismo and Vette prices - then a fail.
I'm hoping for a double deck for the new MR2 if it's a single oh well 😅
I thought the supra was gonna be phased out because the Z4 is going to be discontinued either 2025 or 2026.
Should it be called the MA2 instead of it’s going to be a AWD
Omg dude...Celica is pronounced "SELL-ICK-AH", NOT "SEEEELICKA" 😂😂
Only in America and believe it or not, there's a world outside the USA lol
@@CanadianGearheadIt is pronounced sell-ick-ah in Japan and England.
Only Canada would pronounce it like Celeekuh. Canada is not really a real country. I think it’s only you that pronounce it like a Black girls name. I’m going to remember to pronounce it like you next time. It’s hilarious.
It is pronounced the way he pronounced it in Japan, England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, and as far as I know most of world. The US is the only place that doesn't pronounce it like that @scottsvt9104
No sh*t, that was bugging me too, I've never heard someone butcher the word Celica like that before this video...
Any news on rims, lift and tyres???
Breaking news: they're called wheels, not rims.
@@CanadianGearhead that depends on your level of melatonin.
@@Groots22
The word you were looking for is “melanin” 😂
I don't think there will be new celica or mr2. The GR86 is just perfect.
If they bring it back, it needs to look like an MR2. Not like the MKIII version.
If Toyota put a Toyota engine in the supra (and targa top) I'd buy it immediately!!
The rumored Celica is more like the 6th gen GT-FOUR weighing in at 3300lbs.
You mean 3rd gen GT4.
@@NigelEharis I mean 1994, which is the 6th generation of the car, which is not referred to as the 3rd gen of GT-FOUR.
@@brewerboy3able soooo then why did you write GT4 in your original comment?
@@brewerboy3able yeah sorry man your shit doesn’t make sense. Can you clarify???? Not every celica is a GT4
@NigelEharis correct, and those Celicas that were not the GT-FOUR did not weigh 3300s, they were in the 2300 lbs range. Anything that wasn't a GT-FOUR, in the Celica lineup, didn't weigh more than 3000 lbs. So, my comment could only pretain to the GT-FOUR. Furthermore, in the video, the gentleman referenced the weight being heavier than the 7th gen celica that never had an AWD edition and weighed a lot less. So, the conclusion is that his reference to saying that this rumored Celica is heavier than it's older model isn't actually accurate as the higher performance GT-FOUR has always weighed between 3000(like the ST185) and 3300 lbs(like the ST205). The ST165 weighed in at 3200lbs. Those are the various GT-FOUR's and their weight. From 4th gen celica to 6th gen celica. Hope you could follow along. Thanks.
We don't need the celica. We need the mr2 but we don't need it in awd, it's just going to make it more unaffordable. We need the supra to continue.
Why can we have that for the 86?
If toyota can actually pull this off as is speculated, they will secure their spot as my favorite of the modern japanese automakers. An actual engine with no hybrid crap, a manual transmission, and made all in house. That would be insane! It also sounds too good to be true in this market so I'm not gonna get my hopes too high.
I'd normally be skeptical but I think the fact that they made the GR Corolla and Yaris makes me think there's hope
@@CanadianGearhead Exactly, if they did it once it means they’re willing to possibly do more.
I would love a new MR2.
BUT!! Will Toyota or the government do something to control the Dealers and their greed? We’re obviously gonna be paying 20k over the MSRP. Meanwhile Toyota over there is gonna keep using the same fucking excuse me “Microchips! Microchips we can’t make cars fast enough. Microchips “ 🤦
Until they make the cars with enough quantity so we can at least buy them at MSRP there’s no point with.
I have Celica gt 2000
Laber Rababer 🤦♀️
There's not a shred of evidence for either of these cars even being developed.
They're not coming out with another MR2 or Celica after the abysmal sales of the Supra and GR. Nobody wants to pay those prices when they can get more out of Chargers, Challengers, and Mustangs for less money.
Nonsense, The MR2 & Celica, Honda Prelude are all coming back, it's not really about sales, but rather passion, this is What Toyota is doing now, the Supra failed because it was a rebadged BMW with no real passion put into it at all, the Celica & MR2 are unique & have their own identity, unlike the Supra
Hope mr2 is RWD 🙏
It will be a gasoline 4wd with a 50 to 65 k price tag
I just hope the new celica keeps the sharp lines from the previous gen. Not a huge fan of the new cars these days that look like space ships
@@elvisrodriguez5118 7th gen is an abomination to other celica generations.
Aesthetically the new Supra just doesn't feel Supra-ish to me. Maybe Toyota should have called the new Supra a different name.
Sell-li-ka?
That old MR 2 looks better than the new one
No
No one wants to talk about how he butchers the Celica's name?
I had to stop watching a quarter way thru. Just couldn’t handle it being called a selleeka one more time
Because right now, many of the member of the car community do not like the current models being offered. Take for example the Corolla, which is now more expensive then a Camry? That doesn’t make any sense and who would buy a mk5 Supra? The only car on the market right now that is decent in my opinion is the new Z car
The Camry is 30k MSRP car, and the Corolla is from 23k to 28K, so how is it more expensive than a camry? lmao
Salica, is that French?
BMW's are electromechanical garbage. I am aToyota purist. I have no idea why they partnered with BMW.
What is a seLEEEEKa
This going bankrupt lotus
I'm not interested.
Ok boomer
@@xXVibrantSnowXx 😂😂.
The mk5’s future is grim because the chassis for it is not continuing its production because BMW killed the Z4. If that dies the current Supra’s future is going to face its demise.
If they are electric they will fail!!!---if they are small turbos they will be succesful
Toyota =T r a s h....espically mr2 eww
On the other hand, 400 hp won't be too much on a 2026 MR2. That thing will probably wigh close ot 2 tons.