The REVIVED Toyota MR-2 is Taking Shape // Design, Powertrain, Price and MORE!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
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More info is pouring out of Japan regarding the next #gazooracing sports car. Here's the latest about the return of the beloved Toyota MR2!
Sources:
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bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/770647
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00:00 - Latest MR-2 Talk
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i always thought the MR2 would be under the Supra in hierarchy, almost 70k dollars is crazy.
yes, very expensive. if they can sell them it's their choice idk
MR2 is mid engine that probably makes it more expensive
@@bewareofsasquatch no it's easy to make a car mid engine
@@bewareofsasquatchit’s actually cheaper because you don’t need a driveshaft
@@currythegoatofmankindthepa5156 is it? I don’t know. But what I was trying to get at is that it’s rarer to have a mid engine car and the cool factor makes it more expensive. Like those dang Stanley Starbucks cups. Same cup but just rarer.
Toyota is the number one enthusiast brand right now they’re finally putting their wealth to good use. The amount of products in the pipeline is completely insane.
As a proud gr86 owner…. Well said!
Yes I see you in every Toyota video being the biggest fan boy. Two of Toyota sports cars aren’t even made by them the Subaru and the BMW. The car that is made by them the 3 cylinder Gr Corolla is very underwhelming.
Toyota is home appliance, like a fridge or microwave. Porsche is brand enthusiast mate. You have mixed brands!
@@joseperalta8605 blah blah blah Toyota trolls comes a dime a dozen. Stay tuned Toyota got some good stuff coming 🫡
@@123antimiro if Toyota is a appliance brand then why are you here ? 😂 bit confused are we ? Shouldn’t you be watching a Porsche video instead ? Yeah that’s what I thought 😅
The original Gen 1 and 2 MR2 were based on the FWD Corolla with the engine turned around and located behind the driver. MR2 was priced low and ultra reliable. Two friends used their MR2’s as daily drivers. Only 2 seats limited its appeal, but it was so much fun. The new MR2 will not be mainstream.
The early '90s Mister Two was beautiful!
Prolly gonna have the 3 cylinder turbo engine
How is it based on the Corolla?
"Located behind", but not turned around.
The gen2 MR2 was very expensive like 50k up in 90s money! Although the it was very handsome the first gen I have no idea of the price
At $70k they are gonna have a hard time moving these, especially considering the fact that the C8 Corvette is around the same price, but makes significantly more power
Exactly
And the C8 is selling extremely well. Over 40,000 units per year with a six figure average transaction price! That's beyond impressive. This car should start around $50k if they want to generate some enthusiasm for it.
@@Viper3048probably the best track performing vehicle vs a cool looking snooze fest that will zip around corners and lag everywhere else for same price...Everyone in USA maybe not world wide is choosing the verge.The mr2 doesn't have enough fans to support it
That’s way overpriced
Way better build quality than a Corvette .No comparison.
You had me sold on it until the price. It makes the GR Corolla look like a value purchase
The GR corolla IS a value purchase in comparison that’s what it’s for.
The MR2 base sold for a reasonable $11,000 in 1985. A loaded new 1986 Mustang GT cost $13,600.
I went with the Stang because of EFI and vastly improved handling. Now, if you extrapolate $11,000 to today's dollars, that's about $31,000. At that base price, the new "Mista Two" would be great. But a $40,000+ starting point is far more likely.
Based on screenshots - much more. Unfortunatelly.
It'll probably be priced around that of a bmw supra
Look at it this way - a Civic Type-R is $45k without markup, and the Type-S $52k. And they're based on an existing econo-platform. This is essentially a C8 with a tiny engine. I'd choose it over a Corvette, but $40k is shroom trip territory. Can't and won't happen.
I’m guessing $50-$60k. The Supra is Toyota’s flagship sports car, I seriously doubt they will price the MR2 higher than it. And since it’ll be using the Corolla engine, that should keep costs lower, after all, Toyota said they had to collaborate with BMW to make the Supra affordable, so using the existing Corolla engine should be even more affordable.
Efi? They both had fuel injection 😂
Man I hope we get this in the US! But that price gotta come down to at least the $40s- hi $50s! And I like that first rendering in white! But just get it here with descent power and we'll figure it out! Awesome review as always! 👌🏾✌🏾❤✊🏾
I can’t believe you didn’t think of the Corvette when thinking about affordable mid engine cars! It starts around $70k. With a big NA v8 😍
Good luck finding any remotely close to 70k
@@xxmobstrxx8535 mark ups are now decreasing, I saw a whole car transporter filled with C8’s a month ago.
I have seen some that a very base around 70k but they are rare, but by 2026 I am curious how the used C8 market will be
Anything that costs more than $35k is not affordable to more than 3/4s of all Americans
@@crushbaseball4270 About half the new MSRP.
15:44 To answer your question... It's important to note that the specific rules and requirements can vary between different racing series and classes. Manufacturers may choose to develop and produce the road cars before or during the homologation period. In some cases, racing teams may use provisional homologation status while the road cars are being produced.
That is a funny intro starting out with 2007 having graduated H.S., myself H.S. graduation was 1978 then entered the U.S. Navy for the next 25 years 9 months and retired March 2004. Yeah! strange as it may seem, my 20th year retirement anniversary is nearly here and 47th year since H.S. Graduation. The Toyota MR-2 does bring back a lot of memories when deployed at sea and all the guys talk about thier cars or what they will be buying when we get state side/ done with our tour. For the married guys, it wasn't chatting about cars. How times have changed. So let's hear more about all the wonderful cars you have news on. Kirk, you really strive making the videos interesting and keeping us well informed. Thanks for your TH-cam channel.
The best MR2, the SW20, was a "double-deck" rear end, and that should be a design cue that should carry over
What does double deck mean?
@@judge831 The trunk is behind the engine.
Meanwhile, many people say the ZZW30 was the best handling of the three. You need to define what you mean by best.
As a MR-S owner, the 2nd gen is the most popular, but it definitely isn’t “the best”.
@@theninethrees8044 Whatever helps you sleep at night, Sunshine
Even though I owned a 86 Pontiac Fiero GT I always had great fondness for the MR2 or aka the Mister 2
There’s a company with enthusiast cars. Some AWD turbocharged tuner cars & some RWD with 5.0l naturally aspirated v8 engines.
It’s Toyota. It’s a good time to be a Toyota fan
Stingray?
@@darksideblues135 The C8? It’s a good car imo. The understeer thing is crazy to me though.
Between Toyota, Honda, and Nissan, we’re re-entering a golden age of JDM enthusiast cars. They have all done their boring commuter car homework, and now they finally get to reap the rewards. I’m proud of all of them. They’re finally giving the people what they want. 👌🏼
Sticking with GR86 seeing this MR2 price 😩
The original (and best) MR2 was a revelation when it came out in 1984/1985 - loved by critics and public alike; sadly its character was lost in the Mk2.
The MX5/Miata has survived because of evolution rather than significantly changing a popular format. I had a Mk1 MR2 in the 1980s and absolutely loved it - swapped to a Mk2 in the 1990s and found it disappointing, in comparison to my Mk1. I have a Toyota engined S2 Elise now, which i love and in some ways feels like a hard-core but upmarket MR2.
To take the MR2 moniker, and keep the car affordable to justify its name, any new model should look to the Mk1 MR2 and the ND MX5/Miata. Every time i see an ND MX5, i always think it would look stunning if redesigned as a more cabin forward, rear mid-engined car; definitely an MR2 i would buy.
Whatever car is being proposed in the multitude of TH-cam videos i keep watching about the alleged new "MR2", the cars being proposed are going to be way, way more expensive than the traditional MR2 niche - perhaps more a GR2? The only one i could see as an MR2 was the alleged Suzuki engined (was it a 1 litre?) rumoured collaboration.
The MR2 Turbo back in the day was quick as hell......
Glad they're Bringing the MR2 Back! Also Hope They Leave Enough Room in The Engine Bay To LS Swap That Beauty!
Wow, Toyota! What is this? Looks magnificent!!!!!
$100k toyota, let’s go!
Probably 65k
Nah, probably starting in the low 40s.
No
Lexus is already there.
With stealerships markups no lower than 40k.
The new mr2 renders look so good. I really hope they come through into production.
10:49 Im in a position to make that buy and id absolutely consider the White MR2 over a Porsche. Hands down. It would need to compete! But the looks are there.
The problem is, at that pricepoint, it isn't going to be better than a Porsche- not by a longshot. I'm a Toyota/Lexus fanboy through and through, but the reality is that the Germans make superior performance machines- most of all, Porsche. This isn't going to be a situation where the Toyota is markedly cheaper and more reliable/cheap to fix in order to make up for that gap/lack of value.
@@sly9263well said. While I loved the 2nd gen MR2 in the 90’s my dream car has always been PORSCHE. The Toyota will not compete in fit, finish, and performance. My 2022 Avalon is a complete piece of crap when it comes to fit and finish.
@@jalofanclub tough to hear about the newer Avalon... the only Toyotas/Lexus I'd probably buy anymore are manufactured in Japan
@@sly9263
Agree. An MR2 isn’t going to compete with a Porsche or Lotus, especially not without costly upgrades, which will just make both a Porsche or Lotus a better value.
@@LuckyCharms777 sure, the Porsche offerings may be better technically, however, from my understanding, some of them no longer have oil dip sticks. that in & of itself would be a deal killer for me. a buddy of mine who was thinking of hunting for a used Boxster discovered this & changed his mind rather quickly. he was thinking about one of the Miatas, but then settled on a Nissan 370Z for a bit more money, but not as much as a Boxter. i also feel comparing MR2 gen 1&2 to #3 as the Spyder is somewhat moot, as the others aren't convertibles, which was my preference. i also read several reports from various sources which all agreed that the Spyder is the best handling of the three. i know i love the handling on mine! ;-)
Pricing is slightly unfortunate but not unexpected. We have the GT86/BRZ then the Supra another step up, so it only makes sense for a new platform to be more expensive or at least above the Supra. The only question would indeed be how many will be sold vs a C8, 718, or any other ~70k car
Toyota is discontinuing the 86 next year to make way for this.
The MR-S is actually an amazing performance machine, but only for those who know how to drive it. Most people will not know how to drive it. That's why people underestimate it.
Agree. Automotive journalists actually say it’s the best handling of the three. I’ve been leery of the so-called snap oversteer, but recently have gained more experience pushing my Spyder beyond my comfort levels and it has responded wonderfully.
I love the MR2, I had a 1991 sw21, it would be a dream to own another 1, but the corvette msrp is 68k... I think 40-45k would be a fair price to ask for an MR2, but 80k for a 3 cylinder? As much as I love MR2s I personally wouldnt make that investment over a V8 for over 10k less
Im so unbelievably hyped for this car. Planning on buying it day one if its around the 50k range
TOYOTA MR-2 CONCEPT Y’ALLL LIKE WOWWWW❤❤❤❤
By now, lots of previous mr2 owners have grown up and have set sights on Lotus Emira supercharged v6 400hp 6speed 3100lbs.
Yeah fuck the younger broke generation right?
I prefer the first concept for 70k. Man, that’s such a cool looking car though.🔥Beautiful lines.😎
Kirk, you're not starting to get old. You're aging like a fine wine, more delicious every day. The first rendering is stunning but I hate the high beltline which restricts vision and light through the side windows. I don't like the second rendering but I do like the lower beltline. With a more open and airy cabin, it's less claustrophobic than the first rendering.
That car is sweet and needs to look like it like the LC 500 did , I’ll buy one if
Can’t wait for Toyota to produce a new MR-2! I agree with Kirk and prefer the first (double deck) design over the second design.
As a former owner of a white 87 and a red 91 😊 I miss both of them 🥺 we could use some excitement 😆 in the automotive industry (affordable) fun .
The turbo model is the closest to this new one that we can come pair price too. If you look at the mrsp of a 1995 turbo it was $29755, run that through the inflation calculator, and you get about $60,000. The price for the new one at 70k isn't that off.
I was initially excited but then very disappointed after the details were brought out. Being a current Miata (NA) owner and previous Fiat X1/9 owner, the MR2 has always held a very dear spot in my heart. I've always hoped it would return. After all, the Miata needs a sibling. However, MR2 and $70,000 is a recipe for failure. Nobody is going to pay that much for an "MR2". If this vehicle is going to succeed and compete against other high performance sports cars like the Lotus's Ferrari's, Lambo's etc. at that price, they're going to have to call it the FT-Se or FT-SGR since it's not electric, or whatever. Anything but MR2. The MR2 as you said is a "Mid-ship runabout 2 seater" and shares the same limelight as the Miata. I don't think anybody will pay $70,000 for a Miata either. The MR2 was developed to be a dependable sports for the masses, just as the Miata was.
I was really hoping to see Toyota bring back the MR2, but in hybrid form. I own a 2018 Toyota Camry with the 2.5l hybrid engine. It puts out 208 hp and is very responsive and powerful, especially in Sport mode. I've always said that if Toyota would put this powertrain in a lightweight mid-ship 2 seater platform like the MR2, it would be the ultimate go-cart and be a ball to drive. What an amazingly fun car that would be! MR2's and Miata's have always been adult go-carts for the road, but an MR2 with the 2.5l hybrid powerplant would blow the current Miata and prior MR2 away in every category hands down. Plus, if I can get 50 mpg with that hybrid powertrain in my Camry, there's no reason why it wouldn't deliver 60 mpg in a low lightweight aerodynamic platform like the MR2. AND, it could be produced for around $40,000, keeping it competitive with the Miata and in the "proper" price range for the "MR2" name tag.
Mazda is working on a rotary hybrid powertrain for the next Miata that you can even use to power your house with in the event of a power outage. Toyota would do well to follow that thinking and bring the Miata's cousin back to the table. THAT would be inline with the needs of this day and age and would indeed be a recipe for success!
Yikes! My twin?? lol😂
I’ve owned 3 Miata’s n now a prht. Owned countless Fiats n owned a 75’ X19 for years and was a joy to drive when it ran. I learned lots on that car but never like my xjs v12 jag as she was wicked.
850, 124, sunbeam alpine, & then bought a new iroc z28 in 88. Terrible build quality as was my 95 vette.
Was always intrigued by mr2 n their envious tho well deserved rep for reliability n durability.
I’m 64 & here in the Bay Area-some Porsches running around but not alotta sports car enthusiasts sadly.
Stay safe👍🏆
@@mauricesoulis1590 Wow, what a rich heritage of fun cars you have in your background! I haven't had near that many fun cars. My first was when I was 17. It was a 67 Olds 442 convertable. I had a lot of fun with that car. Loved the wind in my hair which is one of the reasons I love the Miata so much. Wish I still had that Olds. Then later in life I got a 82 Toyota Supra which was a lot of fun too. Then a 79 Fiat X19, followed by the 93 Miata which I still have to this day. The Miata is the most fun car I've ever owned. It's a real twisty road carver. Although the X19 was a close second. I think that if Mazda gets that rotary hybrid in the Miata it will bring a resurgence to the sports car market due to the marked performance/efficiency improvements, especially if they keep it affordable. Hopefully Toyota will follow suit with a fun and affordable MR2 hybrid. I mean if that 2.5l hybrid can make a Camry fun to drive, I can only imagine what it would be like behind your back in a MR2 chassis! It would be like riding a snow mobile or jet ski. Just mash and go! Woo Hoooo! 🤠 No upsetting your body bracing to get your leg on a clutch, no letting go of the steering wheel to grab a shift lever, just brace yourself, keep both hands on the steering wheel, use precise throttle modulation with your right foot and hang on! You'll be carving twisty mountain roads like nobodies business, much like a super bike. I can already feel the wind in my hair! (Hopefully the MR2 will have a targa top lol!)
Sports car popularity seems to come and go in waves. The Miata got the wave going again in 89 after a long lull when it first came out. And I'm starting to see the water swelling up again as the next wave is starting to build. If they do it right, hopefully we'll be able to say "Surf's Up!" soon and hop on board! 😃🌊
10:09 Facinating. What a switch from the 90's in that the MR2 would be top dog on the TOyota line w/ the Supra falling mid pack and what? They keep the 86? Or 86 it for something else? 😆
This thing looks amazing!
I use to love the early 90’s twin turbo MR2 my family had Toyota dealership and I loved that car. Toyota does this right which I’m sure they will I’m an owner.
I love both.
But for me the front of the 2nd one with the rear of the white render ❤
aw11 ftw!! 28 year multiple owner and enthusiast. I'll believe there's a new mr2 when I see it on the showroom floor.
Blue rhymes with MR2 . Light color interior hopefully to make the interior look bigger.
45K fully loaded possibly... But 70-80K takes it away from so many ppl
It looks so amazing
Kirk, what a great channel you run. This MR2 seems likely to be a superb car. However, at twice the price of the last one, it doesn’t appear to be a genuine successor. Btw, if you’ve ever specd a Porsche you’ll know you should add at least 25% to the base price to get to reasonable car. It makes searching for used one extremely irritating as so many have something missing you really want. That won’t happen with the Toyota; and the Toyota will be much cheaper to maintain.
Please come to the us market. I love the looks
Kirk, the prior gen MR2 was significantly more expensive than the last Gen. I think it was likely at least $28k and think it may have gone as high as $32k. When I think of MR2, I personally really think of the second to last generation. I hope you enjoyed your time in Marana. I live close to where you were staying. I love the desert. Be well. :)
God damn I hope the Mr2 actually looks like those magazine photos. This looks sick.
As an AW11 owner, I’m very excite! Whoa whoa weewow!
Great coverage as always, Kirk! A mid-engine competitor that might cause some potential MR2 fans pause is the 2024 Corvette that starts at a hair under $70k. I know it's a totally different kind of beast and I don't believe it's going to provide the same level of reliability as either the new MR2 or Porsche Cayman, but it provides supercar levels of performance and styling that would certainly cause me to give it a look. Having spent a lot of time with various Toyota-powered Lotus models over the years, however, the MR2 would have to be brilliant in order to win against the new Emira, despite it's likely less reliable MB-AMG powerplant. Decisions, decisions... it's nice to have options, though, right?
Did you just put chevy above toyota in terms of reliability?
@@Uno_Floydd Please read again. I actually gave Toyota kudos twice in my comment, the first being, 1) "I don't believe it's [the Corvette] going to provide the same level of reliability as either the new MR2 or Porsche Cayman" and 2) "new Emira, despite it's likely less reliable MB-AMG powerplant". Nothing else to say
@@trevorhofmann1562 correct answer is about the same don’t write me a whole paragraph chillax
@@Uno_Floydd How about reading the original comment thoroughly first, and then after understanding what was said, not making a comment at all? That would have been smarter than your lame ego trip response to being wrong.
@@trevorhofmann1562 sum up your words more. Summarize a bit
Look very similar to LFA from a stance.
Gorgeous Beast.
I nearly spat my drink at the price. No no no a million times no. There's no justifying 68K for a 1.6L TOYOTA!!!
That's more than their own base Supra!
And sticking to mid-engine cars, a base Cayman costs 69K and 1) that base trim has a 2.7L not a 1.6 and 2) it's A PORSCHE!
The new base Corvette is mid-engine, had almost 500hp, and also casts 68K!!!
Toyota should have targeted an MSRP of 45-49K. 68 is just nuts 🤦🏽♂️
I’ve owned 6 MR2s and Alfa Romeo 4c and now a 2014 Cayman, Drive a Cayman there’s no comparison the Porsche is built rock solid and handles like it’s on rails. However I’m glad Toyota is making it a gas model and look forward to seeing it
dude you’re awesome
Love the look of this
An affordable turbo rear engine would sell
Zero chance anything mid engine turbo will be affordable today.
@lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl mounting the engine in the rear (both in front of the axle or behind) is not some engineering challenge. Side by sides, tuk tuks, Smart for two, or even the cheapest car in the world the Tata Nano put the engine behind the driver. OG MR2 wasn't luxury car price at that time either. From an engineering point of view Miata size, performance and cost MR car is absolutely possible. The only concern is whether it can possibly be a low margin high volume car. Sports cars have shrunk in volume drastically, so most of them have gone the route of high margin low volume.
Mid Engine Rear Wheel Drive? Wow i'm so excited now
The second design is more of a heritage look! And I think they could make that double deck as well!
Toyota I love you! You are my favorite car brand in the world.
Dude that looks so fine I personally like option 1 🤤🤤
I am excited for the new MR2, just hope I live long enough to see it happen. I currently race a highly modified 2000 MRS in Asia, which in stock form was like racing a rock, but is now viable after mods. The only drawback is that it is no longer street legal. So I would love to test drive a new one for the street in the U.S.
The 2024 mid engine Corvette starts at 69K🤷♂️
It also starts at ~3700lbs. Different car for different folks.
@@WhatisaLeeFacts. But overall, the average person would choose c8 over mr2. Most ppl just wanna go fast. But if toyota isn't concerned with selling tons of units, then they could win at their own game.
When it first came out it started at 59k
If graduated 07’ is old, what is graduated in 95’? Haha! Thanks for the video. Be nice to see the MR2 resurrected.
I unironically thought you were being sarcastic when you struggled to name another mid-engine car at $70k. That's the 2024 C8's starting price. Big reason I have C8 is because I wanted an "affordable" mid-engine car again after having a Mk2 MR2 2.2L, Mk2 MR2 Turbo, and MR-S in the late 2000s and always follow news for a new one. Big selling point for the C8 is it's benchmarked against and closely matches the 458 (my dream car) in performance and design specs. I'm open to switching it out to a $70k MR2 but that's highly unlikely unless Toyota gives me a stronger selling point than the C8's selling point of being matched to my dream car.
C8 ALL THE WAY, EVERY DAY!!!
I've yet to drive a C8... I currently own a 2gr swapped 94 mr2.. I've owned several... My biggest concern with the c8 is visibility... How have you found it compared to your other cars?
@@ryshask it does have the worst rearward and rear quarter visibility of any car I've driven with a back window. You'd want the rear view camera which is now standard on all 2024+ models. I don't have it on my 2023 1LT but can manage by angling my mirrors correctly with convex mirror attachments so there are no blindspots.
Kirk, Toyota's recent performance cars seem tailor-made for Akio Toyoda who stands at 5'5". Do you think people our size will fit in the new MR-2? 🤔
I would love to see and have a new MR 2. I call them Mister 2's lol
Imagine buying this instead of a 3.0 supra, jesus. Car manufacturers really do think we are stupid.
I owned an MR 2 2004 it was the best car i ever owned and it was very very reliable good on gas it followed my commands right on , i miss that car so much the price was very good 22,000 thousand dollars used ..... the new MR 2 is beautiful but at 67,000 thousand how many people can afford that now with inflation the price of things going up i also saw on an another video that the new MR 2 would be between 24,000 to 31,000 hopefully things will be better with the price ....
Good. This means my SW21 will benefit from the interest and will become more valuable!
How does this compare to the Alfa Romeo 4C? Although not made anymore, it's a small engine turbo single deck lid, mid-engine car that was at the same price point
I really hope they go with the double-decker design. Maybe they'll call it the GR2?
If it does come out and its under $70k ill go and buy one 100%... I love my 88 SC mr2 so much and have driven many of the other generations but the mk1 has been my favorite. Would 10/10 buy a new one of these over a porshe.
80k is too much, a mr2 needs to start mid 40s and top in the mid 50s. In the middle of the 86 and Supra
2007?! 1997 graduate here yo! We are 10 years apart. 🙃
I had a 93' MR2 Turbo....Loved the car. I've had many cars...Elise, Z06, GT500, Alfa 4C, etc...right now have a 987.2 Cayman S and love it. Goldilocks car...There is no way in hell I would buy the Toyota over the Porsche if the price is similar. I'd love to have another MR2 if its made right but it needs to be in a lower price bracket to compete.
The homologations have to be made in order to race in IMSA, not necessarily sold. The race car is ready, the race team is just waiting on the production cars to be made. So the FIA can do the homologation process and they’ll be ready to race. Also the new car will mark Lexus’ return to Le Mans
I like the previous rumors, the ones saying the new mr2 will basically be a Kei car/MX5 competitor and cheap. I want something like the Volkswagen XL Sport concept.
The LFA 2 doesn’t need a DCT since it doesn’t have a high revving engine, an 8 speed (ZF8) will do just fine. I mean look at the G8X’s and new Vantage.
I prefer the white one over the red one. Hands down.
You won’t buy either regardless
red one for me
Racist!
Very funny... not @@ytsux9259
Trust me that single deck is the best choice for future upgrades or engine swap. I would've done two-three variant for those who wants the single deck and double deck.
I'm glad they are not using EV power for the new MR2. Makes perfect sense to go with the 1.6 turbo 3 cylinder. It will basically have the wheelbase and curb weight of the GR86, but with a more rear biased weight distribution and more power. Very exciting stuff - I just really wish they would have a targa/t-top option. To me that is what stands out about the 1st and 2nd gen MR2 - aside from the affordable mid-engine design. If it comes in at $70k or more (with likely dealer mark-ups) I don't think I could justify this over a used Cayman/Boxster. Still have to hand it to Toyota for having the cojones to make a car like this.
Does the C8 start around $70,000?
They do this I’m saving now dude
Yeah i remember the year you graduated high school. That was epic. I Graduated in 96, that was epic af to tho. 100. Nothing but love, keep it real, werd.
Pro tip, mouth open selfies are tough to deal with.
They better give it some power this time!!!!!!
BestCar specifically said the MR2 will be a limited-edition special for JDM only. They don't have the capability to mass-produce the new MR2 (at least now) because it depends on the parts availability of the Yaris GRMN, which could be very tight given the strong demand for that car. That's the reason why the price is so high. It will be very rare and the Yaris GRMN already costs 8.5 million yen. So cost-wise the MR2 is ~18% higher than the Yaris GRMN.
Now if the GR Yaris/Corolla lineup stays strong sales wise and they expand their production capacity, there is a slim chance the MR2 becomes a global mass-produced model. In that case we can expect pricing in the low 50k USD or even high 40k.
I own an '86. MR stood for mid-engine rear wheel drive.
The good one was the mid 90s with the 3sgte turbo engine 😎
The C8 Corvette starts at around $70k. Cheapest used ones are around $60k. Mid engine, 500hp, and overall it's a fantastic car and reviews are more than solid. It has it's haters, but it's the best bargain out there. Hence why they are now selling over 40,000 a year with an average transaction price of right above $100k. Chevrolet hit a home run with the C8.
The styling’s gotta be timeless for a last hurrah fully ICE car. I hope the weight is comparable to a Miata!
I heard it could be HEV instead of PHEV but the output of the system is ~1000hp. That 700ps output is for the engine alone. Another info I received is it could be under the GR brand as the GR GT much like the AMG GT. It could also be the Lexus GR GT. Time will tell.
I like the white one, looks a lot like an LFA up front. I hope they go in that direction. I had a 92 mr2 and put over 200k miles on it with no issues. I miss that car. On that note , I will not pay 70k for a new one. I would rather get a new corvette.
I don't know what others think. But I LOVE IT!
Loving the fact that its at least still a possibility. But with a 1.3 3 cyl this shouldn't be in the same cost range or class of a Cayman or Emira. This is a class below. If its 60k++ its gonna flop.
I'd say this should start at the very tip top range of a Miata... so what like mid 40s?
I won’t believe a 4th gen MR2 until I see it. I really hope they keep it between the GRC and Supra for price. Thats how it’s always been and I think it’s a good formula for success.
since lotus uses toyota engines, do you think that little partnership may spawn a very detuned lotus emira (very similar dimensions, as discussed in this video) as a toyota mr2?
That looks kinda like the sf90 it’s breathtaking
Just an FYI: those renders are unofficial renders done by the magazine. It's pure speculation on their part, the same as when Car and Driver or some other western car magazine puts out renders on what a new car may look like. This isn't an inside scoop on what the car may look like or the designs Toyota is considering. You can see clearly that these renders are just a mashup of elements pulled from different cars. The white render for instance took heavy inspiration from the Ferrari SF90.
for $68k it would lineup with the C8 Stingray, which would be a pretty uneven competition. yeah the MR2 is 500lbs lighter according to the article, but its also 190hp less.
I honestly hope they stay true to the original MR2 and have some ferrari influences on there but from like modern ferraris just to be cheeky.
I have a 2004 MR2 .. is extremely fun ..but I'm not paying over 50k I'll get a Miata next time ..they can keep the horses..I have a blast around town
c/o ‘07 here too!!!
I had an MRS with 425 horse power on it. It was a beast. Glad to see this car come back. LFA will be irrelevant as it will be out of reach for almost everyone wallet.