Dodge Stealth - History, Major Flaws, & Why It Got Cancelled (1991-1996) - The Domestic JDM Failure
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- In this video we are looking at the Dodge Stealth! During their partnership with Mitsubishi, Chrysler relied on jointly-produced cars and badge engineering, and this was one example, as the Mitsubishi 3000GT would transform into the Dodge Stealth with some styling changes. The Stealth tried its best to fit in with the 1990s era of Japanese sports cars - it had the high tech, it had the two turbos on the V6 engine, and it had the AWD - but it never sold well. In other words, it was the domestic supercar with a high price tag that nobody bought. Watch along for all the details, from inception to cancellation!
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1st Gen History/Specs (1991-06): 00:46
Flaws and Reasons for Cancellation: 09:22
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I remember seeing a billboard in Detroit advertising the 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo. The billboard read, “The Dodge that made Porsche call 911.”
Hilarious
Too bad Mitsubishi made the stealth and dodge tried to take credit
That’s marketing! That’s what we need more of these days, clever humorous advertising
Would you buy a Dodge Viper that is made in Japan?
That was the concept with the FCA/Renault merger into launching out a Nissan GTR to be rebadged as a Dodge Viper.
That is good one mister@Mike Kelly
I used to own a 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo. Drove that thing into the ground, ended up having 222,000 mi on it. It had to be the most forgiving sports car I've ever driven in my life.
May i ask, what happened?
@@emigdiogreen7439 Absolutely. On my way to work, there was a malfunction with the engine... leading to a cracked cylinder#1, plus 5 bent valves. The engine needed to be completely rebuilt. So off to the dealership in the sky it went.
Or did you mean why it was so forgiving, in my opinion?
Yeah I was hoping of the FCA/Renault merger but it didn't happen well, too bad that we didn't get to see the Dodge Viper sharing the same platform with the Nissan GTR, if not we will see the first Dodge Viper made outside North America and the first Dodge Viper made in the Far East and the first Dodge Viper made in Japan, as we resemblance the new Dodge Viper having the same design and platform as the Nissan GTR except that instead of saying Nissan it will Dodge and we see a Viper logo on the front of the hood resemblance a GTR but one is a Nissan GTR and the other is a Dodge Viper.
Even though the Dodge Viper being made in Japan by Nissan makes sense ever since Renault has a stake in Nissan because their will be a 100% chance that Nissan will make the Dodge Viper in Japan and it will share the same platform with the Nissan GTR.
@@Embargoman Guy ... This is clearly NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ... First of all that "Merger never happened FCA went with Peugeot Citroen Group and EVEN if the FCA joined with Renault- Nissan there is NO guarantee that a Nissan GTR - Dodge Viper collaboration would have taken place First of all .. The Market... Is very weak for high performance Super cars like these right now ; also Viper owners and potential customers will have a cow if who had A Dodge Viper with Nissan engineering with exception of the V10 power train remember. These folks want distinction and a pure 100 per cent , made in AMERICA viper !! ... Any thing less would not justify the 150k price tags including dealer mark up they are going to pay for that vehicle.!! Furthermore, the marketing for two low volume supers cars for these two vehicles production with in the merger does not make sense if both car are the same price point . Both cars would be competing with each other and all of the makes involved with such a merger consist of moderately priced cars not luxury exotics . It just doesn't make business sense
Dejan Jancevski how much do you think it would cost to rebuild the engine?
The Stealth was sexy as hell
Still is sexy my opinion a timeless masterpiece 😉
is*
one of the best looking cars out there in my opinion, nothing ever beats that real windshield spoiler for me.
@@JoeJohnson-mk4qd
I shaved the emblem off the hood and letters off the rear bumper
Put on a Carbon Fiber Ferrari hood and a dual action door hinge kit.
R/T with less than 5k miles
94 Red
Ohh, painted the wheels black to match the trim
You should do the DSM twins, Plymouth Laser and Eagle Talon.
I had 96 talon and it was awesome.high revving 4 cyl sporty car with a 5 speed that always kept you in the power band! great looks and I got 36 mpg on the highway (non turbo) I wish I never sold it
Imagine a Dodge Viper Made in Japan if the FCA/Renault merger becomes successful!
That means the FCA/Renault merger will end up with a rebadged Nissan GTR sold as a Dodge Viper.
11:26 The Stealth "quietly slipped under the radar." Uhh, mission accomplished? Wait...
The Stealth was not based on the Eclipse/Galant platform, but shared parts and engineering with the larger Diamante platform.
Currently own a 92 Stealth R/T TT in Mystic Blue. It's a car I've wanted since I saw my first Stealth back in 1991.
Sorry I still like the Stealth, even if it had some problems.
Fr and let’s be honest what car that old doesn’t have problems
That title “Big Failure” really doesn’t suit this car’s value. It was a great car then and it still is today. There was a common reason that took out the sports GT cars out in the late 90’s and that was the SUV. Yes, some of the features on the cars of its competitors, such as the reliability of the 2jz motor of the Toyota Supra, were better, but the 3/S platform had its advantages too. I’ve had three 3/S cars in my life and I totally loved all of them. And, to be honest, head gasket failure is not a common problem these cars have. All one needs to make sure with them is to perform the recommended maintenance and they will be just as reliable as any other of the competitors. Mazda RX7’s rotary engine needed a rebuild every 50k miles, so the 3/S was not bad at all. I still have a GTO TT and it never fails to make me smile every morning when I see it!
Sucks that FCA rejected the Renault merger just to avoid the crowd of the UAW seeing the Dodge Viper being made by Nissan in Japan ever since Renault has a stake on Nissan, and if the FCA/Renault merger ever happens then you see people in the UAW bring their shinanigans and yet go crazy that the Dodge Viper will be nothing more than a rebadged Nissan GTR sold as a Dodge Viper, and then after the Dodge Viper comes out after the FCA/Renault merger then the first Dodge Viper will come out of the lot of an assembly plant in Yokohama, Japan along with a Nissan GTR sharing the same platform put on ship in Japan is off to America along with the rest of the Dodge Vipers mixed with Nissan GTRs coming on a ship from Japan.
Then it will be sold at dealers and then we will have the first Dodge Viper being made outside North America to be sold in North America then headlines will say the Dodge Viper is No Longer Made in the USA after the FCA/Renault merger and yet after the FCA/Renault merger we will have the first Dodge Viper made in Japan and for now on after the FCA/Renault merger all of the Dodge Vipers being sold in America are going to be made by Nissan in Japan.
But in a way FCA rejected the Renault merger and we didn't get to see a Dodge Viper that is made in Japan or saying a rebadged Nissan GTR sold as a Dodge Viper.
Bro same we bought a junked 91 stealth for like 200 bucks and it works like a dream it's in mint condition it just needs the standard service like your 60k service etc this car is for sure not a huge failure the 3/S platform is awesome, and it is unique in its own way as the supra and the rx7 so I'm glad to see a fellow 3/S brother out there still sticking up for us still running the platform
@@Embargoman Wasn't that merger supposed to also produce a next generation Mitsubishi 3000GT? I kept seeing and hearing stories about a concept that fell through that was going to base the next 3000GT off of the same GT-R platform.
@@1rstGear The Renault/FCA merger was to plan to built the Dodge Viper at a Nissan factory in Yokohama, Japan to share the platform with the GTR.
"big failure" in a financial sense, not in the sense that it failed to be a good car
Yup. Owned that car for 23 years. Never had serious issues with it.
I still got it 1995 awd 3.0 164,000 miles
I often think it is more with the percentage of chance that a car will have problems. They were notorious for having electrical issues among other problems, but that doesn't mean there weren't some that had a flawless run for their owners. I see that with many car models. Also these cars were technically advanced, so they probably needed to be well taken care of by the owner.
@@chriscornelius2518 I 100% agree with you. The owner always dictates wether a good car will live long or be riddled with issues. A prime example is the E92 BMW 335i. 90% of the issues people complain about on those cars are caused by the routine maintenance or small repairs being skipped due to the expense. This is the same as many issues complained about on the Stealth/3000GT.
I've said this before and ill say it again. There's being able to afford GETTING the above mentioned trio of cars, and then there's being able to afford OWNING them. The concepts are two completely different things. Often many can't properly perform their own maintenance and repairs, and then these cars end up getting driven until a reasonable repair bill no longer exists, and a myriad of issues forces the incompetent owners to pass their well broken or poorly maintained cars over to the next poor guy who thinks they're getting the deal of the century, not knowing that a lot of money needs to be thrown at the car.
The next person then drives the car as if it needs nothing, and when the issues get worse, the car gets blamed instead of the one who caused the problems initially: The previous owner.
@@1rstGear Do you think those models needed to be babied more than say a Supra? I have heard that the Supra Transmission is engineered to handle up to 700 hp from stock. Also the fact that the stealth and 3000gt had so much with technology at the time. I'm repeating myself, sorry.
I wouldn’t say babied so much as looked after. I have friends who have made 700whp on stock transmissions just the same as I have friends who have made 1,000whp with their Supra’s on stock V160 6Spd transmissions. The higher complexity just means they need to be properly serviced and when things are found broken they need to be replaced. People are just cheap or lazy or cheap and lazy and they won’t spend the money till the problem is such that they can’t afford not to, or the car just sidelines them and the repair bill is sky high. These vehicles were never treated with the care they really deserved and needed so most examples are just abused.
About 2 1 /2 years ago I found a one owner '93 Stealth ES automatic from the original owner that was purchased new just a few miles from my home. 63k miles. One week later I found a '94 R/T manual in South Carolina, 2nd owner with 65k miles, garage kept, covered (including wheel covers), trickle charger, near perfect that I bought sight unseen. Both are great cars and have been using the '93 as a daily driver. Both Emerald Green. Some differences from the two years (pop up headlights and plastic shock covers on the '93), Chrome mags, quad exhaust etc on the '94. How cool it is to take both to car shows...
canada never got the 3000gt, although you could import one when it was new. The platform was derived from the eclipse, not shared. The stealth and 3000gt combined sold more in the us than all of their direct competitors combined which depicts why they were all phased out, its only in the late 90's early 00's that the other cars became more popular on the second hand market. Their availability did not play in their favor. Dodge claimed a factory 0-60 under 5 seconds, something the supra on top of your chart never achieved on tape. Yes I know "some car magazine said it did 4.6-4.8 back then and never could show any proof nor could they replicate it because all the other tests (even theirs) at the time were around 5 to 5.4" ( the same magazine claimed the na models to do it in around or under 6 seconds which we all know is closer to 7). A 400hp model at the time was under 5. A 94 stealth with the 6 speed and extra 20 hp certainly can do better than 5.3 when launched. They never suffered from bad head gasket issues, it is uncommon. The auto trans did suffer some problems, they also had a tendency to not be maintained (timing belt) and to grenade the engine. They also have oil pick up issues but both belt and oil pan are down to maintenance. Door regulators, cracking dash vents and window motors are also common. Finally, earlier cars might experience problems with the ECU and the transfer case were recalled. people that didnt have money to buy one bought one in bad shape and they couldnt keep up with basic maintenance because it is not a civic. Thats the only reason they get a bad reputation. They don't tend to have any major flaw mechanically.
Also, the active exhaust tend to rust out if the car is in a bad climate. The rest of the electronics (ecs active aero etc) can fail which is not uncommon after 20-30 years but it was never a major flaw. Especially when considered that nobody took a few minutes to take off the wing and grease it...
Completely agree with everything here. There wasnt really a single deathly flaw In these cars like some Subarus are notorious for head gasket issues. The only real issue is that you can destroy the early model transfer cases with a launch, because they were aluminum... so don't launch it. The oil pickup issues were only caused by *bad owners!. The oil pan was not a jackpoint, but people decided they would do it anyway, denting the oil pan, and starving the pickup!! The dash vents are no biggie, just cosmetic really, and the window regulator issues happen in tons of car models. Really, 3000GTs get a bad rep. I love my 93 VR4.
Agreed!!! My 92 lost an ECU just weeks after rebuilding the engine. After working out the electrical kinks its been great!! Wirh awd it launches as hard as my 440 powered 68 Dart that runs 11.50s!! Its amazing!! To any owners that are DIY... Get a factory manual, and keep up on the maintenance, especially the 60/120k work, and theyll be fine!! Just remember...its a high end sports car, so take care of it and youll love it!!
Oh my God THANK YOU. Someone who knows
I chased one on rt 250 in VA real twisty road, I had a hell of a job staying with it, btw I was on a 165 mph 1100 Suzuki 135 bhp motorcycle at the time. Trust me that car was quick.
1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo Best Car I Have Ever Owned !!
0-60 4.86 Seconds !!
28 MPG
Out Handled A 911S Any Day !!
-Sarge
Great vid! Fun fact: The Stealth (and 3000GT) shared the same rear view mirrors as the Viper
Just sold my 91' Stealth in April and I miss it, if I can find a clean turbo Stealth then I'll gladly try to buy it!
Where are you from?
I have a 93 stealth fwd non turbo
The Stealth exterior styling was based on the Intrepid show car.
yea, i could see that.
Fell in love with the stealth ever since I saw it in 'The Bandit'
That was the 3000GT version... :)
@@leasegrandcayman8747 no, it was the stealth
Tom Havel,
I stand corrected! I was thinking of a scene of a different movie that I thought was the one called The Bandit...
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I own a 1995 base model stealth, and despite some of the known issues, I love the car. It drives beautifully at 130k miles, and is enough to get in trouble. The analog feel of the 5-speed, no driving aids (even ABS), and the linear grunt of the 3 liter V6 is second to none. Long story short, I am in love with it, and I am prepared to take on any challenges it throws. I wish they could have kept the numbers up!
I just bought a 95 base model love the car drives beautifully at 200,000 miles but does it have active aero?? I have a whole section of fuses for it
I'm looking at a 91 base with 30k miles. Manual transmission,mint condition. 7500 is what he's asking. Is it worth it? I loved these cars as a kid
@@nathansmith1967 I don't think 7500 is terrible for a base, especially with those miles... but it isn't a great price. I would probably throw him 5500-6000 if it was really clean
@@ORCASTIIZZY if it is a base model, there should not be active aero, unless someone with way too much time on their hands added it at some point... which I could never see why anyone would add it
Keep saying they are unreliable so I can keep buying them up! One of the most reliable cars I’ve had, people just don’t know what there’re doing with them.
Right??? Im perfectly happy collecting them cheap!!! And bad timing belts that "kill" engines... No problem... Replace some valves and go!! The pistons dont get damaged. The engines arent hard or expensive to build as a DIY-er...!!!
Amen, Brother! Practically no issues with mine - I have owned her since new in 1993!
@@wheels-n-tires1846 IKR my girlfriend grew up working on her dads stealth and I’m about to get one just for her to get to work on cars again😂 worked on transmissions as a little kid with these things
how many miles do you think they would last? im looking at one with 135k miles, their just very beautiful cars
its 1992 ES
I have owned my '95 RT Turbo for 6 years. A little over 125k miles and no issues, just routine maintenance. Recently decided to build it for some more power. Doing a single turbo conversion (PTE 6766 BB .81) and short block build (CP Pistons, Carrillo Pro H Rods) to hold that extra boost. Fuel system upgrade and tuned through an AEM Series II. Will be doing a few more things as well. Should be more fun when it's all finished.
I own the one my grandfather bought in 1993 and it's an amazing machine. Yes it has plenty of problems but it stays strong and has options that you still can't get standard in most cars. By far ahead of its time and under appreciated. Great video.
are there any problems that are the most inconvenient and costly? i am thinking of getting a 95 stealth but don’t know.
The Stealth and 3000GT are one of my favorite sports cars. They still look sexy right now! I love how detailed you are in your videos. Keep up the great work!
The information on the rotor sizes is wrong. The largest rotor on a twin turbo car was a little over 12 inches on 94+cars, 93 and earlier had 11.6 inch rotors up front IIRC. The TT cars also had four piston calipers up front, and single piston in the back until it switched to 2 piston calipers in the '94 model year.
One thing is true:
It is easier to pronounce Mitsubishi than Peugeot..: 😃
Yet Renault merger with FCA and a Nissan GTR rebadged as a Dodge Viper!
The white Dodge Stealth in your video is mine. It was seen on Regular Car Reviews…. It’s a 1991 and 30 years later it still drives…
The 6G72TT in the stealth is actually quite reliable; they’re about on par with the RB20DETT (although the 6G holds power better than the RB)
Exactly!!! Do your proper maintenance (60/120k etc) and it'll live forever. People that say theyre unreliable mostly havent built/owned/drive one...
I have a 1996 base model in orchid pearl (purple). There are said to be 17 like it produced that year. I love the car, and with an upgraded front end it handles like it’s on rails. Definitely an underrated vehicle and it turns heads everywhere it’s driven. The base models tend to be more reliable, but of course this doesn’t exempt them from their innate flaws. Even so, with 141,000 miles, it runs reliably and smoothly without a single warning light
I just bought a 95 base model last week, with under 60k on it. Needless to say she drives and handles like a charm. I love it.
I didn't even know you could get it in purple.
Awesome car, awesome video. Not enough coverage on the Stealth on YT. Been waiting for this a long time. Thanks, Marspeed!
I’ve owned two, including a turbo. Loved them back then. Super fast when modded, but not the most reliable. Nostalgia!
These videos are so underrated and so is your channel. I really enjoy your videos and Mopar content, and I sincerely hope your channel takes off. Keep it up! ;)
(btw, can you do the Eagle Talon next? I find it fitting to do after this video)
I really love these History and Cancelled videos and you need to keep them coming. For future episodes, you should do a profile on the Chrysler Lebaron, 1988-92 Eagle Premier/Dodge Monaco, the 1979-81 Chrysler R Bodies(Dodge St. Regis, Chrysler Newport and New Yorker, Plymouth Gran Fury), the Dodge Shadow/Plymouth Sundance, the Doge Spirit/Plymouth Acclaim, the 1985-89 Dodge Lancer/Chrysler Lebaron GTS, or the 1980-83 and 1990-93 Chrysler Imperial.
You do ABSOLUTELY AMAZING videos bro why do you only have so little miniscule amount of views and likes. I'm subscribing I love these videos!
When I was a kid in the 90s, I didn't see many Stealths or 3000GT's on the road. I was always seeing RX-7's, 300ZX's, Supras, Celicas, Eclipses, and 240SX's.
I had a 1991 Stealth RT 5 speed. I called her The Bitch because every other week she had a problem with me😂 needless to say, it was a fantastic first car for me, to learn about cars and appreciate the value of them. NOTHING will EVER compare to doing donuts in the snow with that things heavy rear end, and the high use i had for its hatch. Loved my beautiful blue Bitch. @Marspeed
I still have my 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT, such an amazing car
Sucks not to see that FCA/Renault merger.
But if the FCA/Renault merger happens would you buy a Dodge Viper that is made by Nissan in Japan the first of it's kind to be a rebadged Nissan GTR sold as a Dodge Viper?
Saw one at the gym today. Now I need one in my collection
I’d love to see you feature the Conquest. I bought one recently and love how thoroughly you cover each car. Cheers and keep up the great work!
Hell yeah Starion appreciation thread
Conquest, every once in a while I see one on Craigslist always with engine failures (head gasket usually) it's a bummer because they look cool as hell
Currently own a Conquest TSi and a 3000GT VR-4...... timeless machines.
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Great video, detailed and informative yet concise! Thanx man, I am looking at a dirt cheap clean 96’ base model just for a quick temporary ride. It was hit in the back so needs some body work otherwise in good condition. Job well done thanx again for the info!🔥🔥👍🏽
Thought it was the best looking and performing import sports car of the early 90's.
I remember the big controversy about the stealth for the Indy pace car . Never saw one tho
Ah the 90s when everything was stealth this or y2k that
It’s pretty rare to see a mint condition stealth or 3000gt. Really clean ones (and any mid 90’s Japanese sports cars) are really starting to make a presence!
Just bought a 95 base stealth last week. Under 60k for $3k no rust garage kept. Like taking candy from a baby..
In 1993 I was looking for a new Dodge Daytona Turbo Z, but came across this used Dodge Stealth R/T. I took it out for a test drive but left there telling the salesman that I was going to go for a Daytona Turbo Z. 😉 The next day he called me and offered a deal. I said no. Within a week he was talking to me again. Of course he didn't like my counter offer. Well, another call from him I made my final offer and he accepted. I went in the next and told him that I will stand by my offer IF I could talk to the previous owner on the phone right then and there, and of course, only if I liked what the previous owner had to say. He bought a boat and had traded the car in for a Ford pickup truck to pull a boat and trailer. We were speaking on a speaker phone, then I told him I had one last question. He was curious, so I asked him, right there in front of the salesman, "Did they offer you any kickback to say good things about the car in hopes of convincing me to buy it?". He was surprised at the bold question, and I could tell the salesman was too. The guy said "No" and I felt confident the guy was sincere. The deal was made. So, in 1993, I bought a Firestorm Red 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T. I LOVED it! It was smooth driving, had great handling, and I could easily merge onto busy highways and interstates without interrupting the flow of traffic. Being front-wheel drive, wide and heavy, it did alright in a few inches of snow. Since it had such low clearance, more than a few inches of snow bogged it down as I did get stuck a few times. But, with the weight of the vehicle, it did handle better on icey roads than I thought it would. It had sport and touring modes. I loved the leather interior and power driver enthusiast's seat and climate control air/heat. I washed it frequently and waxed it at least once a month to keep that Firestorm Red burning bright in the sunlight and in the reflections of the city lights at night. People always thought it was brand new because of how good looking I kept it. I drove it once a year between Washington DC and the Space Coast of Florida to visit family for the holidays or for summer vacations. It traveled very well up and down I95, I81(for my trips to TN), and I75 (My trips between VA & FL were "quicker" than my previous trips in my previous vehicle. Of course I had a radar detector (but never used it VA since they were illegal there 😉). I made frequent trips on the winding Skyline Drive in the Appalachian mountains of beautiful Virginia as well as the country roads through the Shenandoah Valley. I loved driving it often in D.C. amongst the monuments and down to Maryland's Solomon's Island. Furthermore, it's aerodynamic styling fit in quite well with the rockets and space shuttles when driving around Cape Kennedy. And driving around Daytona and Daytona Beach was such a joy and a rush! I still have my pictures of my Stealth at Daytona International Speedway - the only thing that would top that would be if I got to drive it around the speedway! The faster I drove it, the more I could feel the car hunker down and stick solidly to the road. It had a little more than 50,000 miles on it when I bought it. I drove it for 6 years and ended up with more than 198,000 miles on it when I traded it in on a brand new 35th Anniversary Mustang, though I was, and still am, at heart, a Mopar man (though a Stealth was not a Mopar like the 1973 Dodge Charger and late '70s Dodge Magnum I drove years earlier). It was an eye catcher. I'm surprised to hear it was slow selling and only sold in low volumes each year. However, yes, the rear seating was small, tight, and cramped, but hey, I wasn't driving it from the back seats! Now, the bad news...it required premium fuel, though I treated the leather every couple of months, the driver's seat leather began to wear away quickly at the side where I would get in and out; the Overdrive went out well under 100K miles (though I was able to drive it w/out harm and w/out my mileage being noticeably adversely affected, the engine started smoking around 100K miles, but changing to Mobil One oil resolved that...until the valve seals started quickly failing above 190K miles. I was faced with having major engine work and transmission repairs done or go looking for a new car. I really wanted to keep it and restore it, but I was looking at a cross-country job transfer in the near future, so that's when trading it in on a brand new 35th Anniversary Mustang in 1999 came into the picture. I did love the car and would have loved to have bought a new one, but of course by then, the Stealth had been dropped 3 years prior and I didn't want to buy another used one. But, once in a while, I will see one around out here in Colorado and reminisce about my Firestorm Red 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T. ☺
that is an amazing story, and shows how much a car can mean to someone! I'm 17 and unfortunately just recently got in a car wreck (not my fault luckily, coulda been a lot worse) and was looking to get a beautiful blue 1991 dodge stealth with 24k miles! I think I've decided against it though, do to the lack of passenger air bags. but its amazing to see that this car wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. thank you for sharing your story of this forgotten gem!
how are replacement parts and aftermarket for this in 2023 are they hard to find?
I really love American cars. Those with flaws and failed history are the most interesting ones. I also love the design of many Chrysler and GM vehicles.
Greetings from Europe.
It’s Japanese tho
@@stupidvideos1449 I still like American cars.
but they suck tho
the real seneca not really go and ford products are very reliable now
Yeah if you where a French man then you notice about Renault a French car company that owns Nissan and their plans was to merge with FCA but it failed because their plan on Renault's part is to bring out a Dodge Viper that is made in Japan that shares the same platform with the Nissan GTR, if FCA didn't rejected the Renault merger we will ending up seeing Dodge Vipers rolling off the assembly line at a Nissan factory in Yokohama, Japan.
Back in '97 I worked on a used car lot that had one (I think a '95). Fun little car to drive around on the lot for a 17-year-old. At 6'3" tall, I didn't find it too cramped once I got in, but climbing down into a car like this at my age now would be a bit much.
This comment helped a lot im 6'3 and have been wanting one but I wasn't sure if I'd fit
I've owned 5 stealths and 3 3000 gts in 28 years. I love these cars. I've found if you just leave them mostly stock, they'll always run great and never leave you stranded.
How’d you run through so many of them so fast then..
@@yamkaw346 he was not running his first ones stock obviously lol.
I bought my 1992 RT TT in 2002 and still have it. I think this car was way ahead of its time for ‘92 and still performs well today. The biggest drawback I have found is that nobody knows how to work on these. I’ve had to teach myself and perform all my own maintenance. That being said it is a pretty reliable car if kept stock and maintained. Plus, it is one really fun car to drive!
Love my 92 RT/TT!!! Youre so right- nobody understands them!! Best thing I ever bought was the factory service manuals!!
@@wheels-n-tires1846 I bought those too. Still have my 92 ES. LOVE my Stealth.
@@laurawilson9163 It's almost impossible to understand the cars otherwise...theyre not "normal", LOL!!! Smart girl!!!
I have TONS of stuff Ive collected for these cars. Mostly RT/TT stuff, but I do have a lil ES stuff. If youre anywhere near Portland/Vamcouver WA, and need somthing, lemme know!!!
My neighbor has a green 94 rt turbo, drives it often.
Right now I’m looking at a 94 r/t
I own a black 1991 Dodge Stealth Turbo just like the one that nearly clipped the dog in the video. This evaluation is extremely accurate and well done. I love the styling of the car and get positive reactions and questions about it on a regular basis. Even so, it always seems that you are moving from problem to problem with these cars; the replacement parts are scarce and the fixes are expensive. Incredibly, there is a video of someone that shoe-horned a MOPAR 440 into a Stealth. Parked at a car gathering, it commanded instant street cred as it shook the ground, at idle. At times, I had thought about removing the power plant and other features and converting it to electric but it really wouldn't make sense in time, money, and aggravation. May God Bless and once again...this video was painfully "Spot On".
Love the videos!
I had a 93 3000gt sl, I absolutely love these cars. While I honestly do think the stealth doesn't look nearly as good as the 3000gt I still love them!
I love the DODGE STEALTH. Some might not realize it but, the DODGE STEALTH R/T TTs could be had the more aerodynamic body which allowed it to have a higher top speed vs its 3000GT twin. Theoretically, it was possible to push this vessel over the two-century mark (performed by dodge on private test tracks); remember CHARGER DAYTONA. Insane for the price/era. Because of insurance companies top speed had to be limited. A major aspect of these car's reliability issues with these cars and especially most turbo cars, can be placed in the lap of the owner(s); most do not know of or ignore the increased maintenance schedule required. The other issues such as trim and some electrical problem can be said of most brands during this era.
Still one of my favorite car of all time I had a eagle talon turbo. It's not as reliable as a Supra but gives you close to the same performance for a half of the price now.. hope to get stealth RT or 3000 gt soon
Hey man Nice video! Could I request a video of the dodge stratus rt, Specially the rt coupe?! I think the Sebring coupe and eclipse gt shared the same engine early 2000’s. Again nice vid thank you!
Finally you did it after all these years
I bought a '93 ES new off the showroom and still own her, 25k original miles. It is just as much fun to drive today as it was when new in 1993!
I have a 1995 Stealth R/T. It need some work, but I'll keep it as my project car.
It still looks good in this day & time.
I owned a white 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T in 1992 and only owned it for a year because I was going to have a baby and it was no longer practical for me. Flash forward to May, 2023 and my husband challenged me to find another 1992 Dodge Stealth and I accepted the challenge, finding one on Ebay in Colorado! I love the car - same model and year but emerald green. I am taking it to my first car show tomorrow and hope to do more. Only 31,000 miles and garage-kept. Like new. Drives beautifully and the mechanic could not find anything wrong with it. Love it!!!
I owned a 91 RT/TT 15 years ago. It had 135k kms and I put another 50,000 on it in 3 summers. Loved that car so much that I still have dreams about it to this day and old friends still say "remember the stealth?".
I've owned many sporty cars since then and nothing compares to how this car made me feel. It really felt exotic compared to anything American other than a Viper of its Era.
It was bone stock and I had zero problems with it. Except a sweating fluid transmission case.
I saw one of these old stealths in the junkyard yesterday
Just got my 91 rt turbo this weekend!
Had a 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T. It was Chrysler executive corporate car fully loaded. While it was only the 24 valve 222 horsepower engine the car was fast. After 6000 miles the automatic transmission went out and took 3 weeks for a new transmission. The car was white with a red/black interior. One of the best cars I owned.
Owned 1991 RT. It was a great looking car and way advanced for its time. Parts were expensive. Sold it in 2004 for about 5k with 220k KM’s on it. Enjoyed how rare it was didn’t see many around especially in the electric blue colour mine was.
Yes, had a R/T Turbo. It was a never ending mechanical nightmare. Transmission failure, but no internal parts available. Replace the transmission with a new one, or stay broke were the options. After getting a new transmission, I was happy to sell her.
On a positive note, I thought it was the most beautiful car on the road at the time, and even now, bested by few...
Your 0-60 times are way off....the Stealth R/T TT went 0-60 in 4.9 seconds as tested not only by the manufacturer, but by Motor Trend as well back in 1991. As for the Supra...I have never, ever, seen an actual documented test (by a reliable source) where it went 0-60 in 4.8 seconds back in 1993. The reason it didn't climb to the fame of the Supra and others is because of movies like the Fast and the Furious where the general public (99% followers) follow the crowd.
I own a 1995 R/T Twin Turbo. It is in great shape and I am puting a little work into the interior to make the inside look as new as the outside. I love this car. I have had grown men sitting in the passenger seat, scream when I accelerated on a straight line. It is fast and it looks like it is doing 100 when it is standing still.
The Viper is the Dodge Flagship. Awesome car. That said, if Dodge would have moved the Stealth to a rear wheel drive platform with the turbo V6 at the entry level, with a V8 that made between 350 hp to 400 hp at the middle and top range models and price it below the Viper. Possible success, who knows. Me owning Dodge though definitely would have offer this model but on a rear drive platform and a 400 cubic inch small block V8 and 400 horsepower. Call it the Charger R/T 6.6.
Ive been daydreaming about building a Stealth with a Charger 5.7 AWD drivetrain...😁🔥
I always like it. My Uncle Tommy had a 1992 Black one. 😀
I bought one and it has been my favorite car ever, still miss it at this time!😢
They didn't walk away from Mitsubishi completely, at the time of the cancellation of the Stealth they had been selling the Avenger/Sebring coupe, which was a DSM car based on the Eclipse. And even after the "cancellation" of the Avenger coupe in 2001 they pretty much just renamed it the Stratus and Sebring coupes, which again were DSM cars based on the Galant/Eclipse.
I'd love to see a cancelled and flaw video on the Eagle Talon and the Plymouth Laser
I own 1 of 2 stealths in new Zealand
nice!
Legendary dude
I own a 1995 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo. Had for the past 10 years. I LOVE that car. Its been pretty good as far as reliability goes, not to say its had a fair share of issues. But its a great car! So f*ing fun to drive. Especially on a winding twisty road. It feels so stable at high speeds too. 130ish mph. I love the car and I'm never selling it. You can see it on the top of my TH-cam Channel. Its a Dark Blue Pearl with Charcoal interior. Very rare. 1 of 14 with that color paint and interior color.
Good Video , But, Stealth Was NOT a failure. It was never intended to sell in big numbers. It WAS a great looking design and fun to drive sports car, I owned one, a 91 R/T, good solid car , but I overreved the engine while racing it in 2008 , the V6 had about 150k hard miles on it by then ,and after I blew it up it required a massively expensive, complete teardown and rebuild, and used engines were almost impossible to find with low miles so I had to sell it. But I'd still buy a 94-96 Stealth in good shape with under 100k miles, if I ever find one.
Marspeed can you do one for the dodge startus?
Perfect! A new video!
Now can you do a video of the Chrysler LHS, Concord and New Yorker from the late 90s?
The platform was not the eclipse platform, it used the mitsubishi diamante platform. To even say it shares the same dimensions as an eclipse, would be like calling an eclipse a Supra. The Z11A platform is much bigger as it is based on a 4 door saloon car, not a small coupe.
3000GTs are big cars, my VR4 is close to the length of a four door Mitsubishi Lancer.
@@jonathonhebert7042 yup, and with the 3000/Stealth being based on a car that was their flagship saloon car, makes sense it is big. I love my big whale of a car. Otherwise tho, great video as is the rest of them!
@@LordKylik I love my big ass car too lol! It's the reason why I'm able to comfortably fit my 6'4 friend in the passenger seat
POP UP UP-AND-DOWN HEADLIGHTS!!!
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(if you don't understand the context here I am genuinely concerned for you)
That's my ring tone!
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They used Black Dodge Stealths as the villian cars for The Outfit gang in the first season of the 1994 TV series "Viper".
You missed one of the biggest problems with these cars, the infamous "start - click". There are nearly 50 things that can cause this (with some good videos on here going through ALL of them). But I can imagine that at the time, after spending thousands trying to troubleshoot why the engine won't turn over when you try to start it, even though everything appears to be working, people would avoid this like the plague.
That being said, I want one. But they're still going for pretty high prices, considering the age and host of baggage you'll inherit with it, though.
Mine does this and I still don't know wtf its doing🤣
When mine did this it was a poor ground caused by the battery cables and terminals. I replaced them both, and never had an issue since. The other common issue is the neutral safety switch mount being bent just enough that the switch is barely contacting the start switch when the pedal is depressed and so the start relay isn't being activated to allow for cranking. The most common though is poor cable ground and hot continuity.
Never really knew about these even as a dodge fan and saw a 93' dodge stealth for 2k on criaglist (engine not running since parked). Never knew they made a twin turbo v6
theres a 1992 stealth awd twin turbo on my local creagslist with 149,000 miles and new clutch and rebuilt turbos should i buy it ?
Without having a buyers check done if you don't know much about fixing these cars it can be quite the gamble. If you know your way around these cars, all you need do is look at the most common areas of neglect and ask for any service records or receipts for the work they say they've had done, and check that all the equipment it has still works. Negotiate from there. Clean Twin Turbo cars that need nothing with that kind of mileage (130-160k) expect to pay $9k to $13k. You can find sub 100,000 mile cars in those years for between $21k and $40k for examples with wiles as low as 6,000 to 10,000 miles.
Still own a 91 turbo and love it
Anyone aware of any Straman Coachworks convertible Stealths still out there?
I own a 1991 Red R/T with 260000 miles. I had a posi unit put in the transaxle. Then bolted behind a Twin Turbo engine I bought from Japan. Frontwheel drive TT. Man this car is quick and fast. A blast to drive. It has surprised quite a few cars on a roll😉.
We mightve met...are you in Vancouver WA area??? Because I met a guy with a red fwd TT Stealth in Hazel Dell a few years back...
@@wheels-n-tires1846 no. I live in Kannapolis NC. We are real close to Charlotte.
@@randylear8264 we couldnt get much further away LOL!!! Well just know the car has a twin over here on the left coast!!!👍😁
@@wheels-n-tires1846 nice to know that they are out there and running in the wild. These cars are a blast to drive and you don’t see them everyday. You have a blessed day.
My friend has 3 different 3kgts. I thunk they are really slept on a sports cars. Also a cool fact, the rear seats are actually bucket seats
I've had a '92, better than a truck in snow.
I miss Sunday morning, going up north on Deep Purple's music = Highway Star...
It has been my best car.
Loved the eagle talon turbo
I had a 1992 Dodge Stealth, And have owned at least 100 cars in my life. And this was definitely one of my favorite. It was way ahead of its time and many, many respects including but not limited to, adjustable suspension, futuristic climate control, Rear window wipers (for a sports car),a cabin unlike anything else, however it did have some flaws... Transmissions were problematic, the v6 needed timing belts replaced before 60000 miles or you risked destroying the engine. The twin turbo versions were expensive to maintain...
Funny I had a Plymouth Sapporo, Plymouth badges on the outside but when you opened the hood there was a Mitsubishi tag on the firewall it was a 1981 . I loved it was a great car should not have sold it.
My buddy has two of these (the 3000gt variant). Cool car, but tons of issues with both the VR4 and SL 😣
A friend of mine in college had a 3000GT VR4 in white. It had issues. There was an issue with the trans and it took him over a year to find the part. He finally got to drive it to graduation. Funny thing was money wasn’t an issue. He came from a wealthy family (construction). During break, he and his dad would fly to California to race Porsches at Laguna Seca. His parents rented a house for him and gave him an allowance to live off of in college (also paid for his education). Even with all that money he had a heck of a time getting parts for his car.
CamaroAmx exactly, my buddy’s ABS module went out and he had to delete it because he couldn’t get the part 🤣
I seen a guy with the Dodge Stealth R/T. It was automatic (even though I don't mind it). Kinda wanted to practice driving a stick with those 🔥
This car was iconic for a kid growing up in the 90s
Thanks for info on stealth win first time I seen the car I Like it ❤i I'm dodge man but if it Actually has that much problem ⚠️,hmm I don't know
normal maintenance will keep most "known issues" under control. My father brought one home in 1992. became mine in 2004. Performing normal maintenance and driving monthly has kept the car in great condition. not one aftermarket mod if you dont include the dealer installed car phone. Hope to pass to my son in another 16 yrs. The car still out performs many "sports cars" on the road today
You still have the car phone?!? You have a unicorn!! Please send pictures!! There was a guy on the 3000GT subreddit and he was trying to install the car phone with a bit of difficulty.
@@jonathonhebert7042 unfortunately no. My father removed the phone in late 90's I believe when cell phones hit the market. I asked my mom said maybe in a box someplace...
I never liked the Supra. The back seat was good for an amputee.
I had a 1992 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo. No issues after 2 years. It was better looking than a Supra, RX-7 or 300ZX.
As for an NSX, the price tag was more than twice the cost of a Stealth.
My mom bought one of these brand new I’m not sure of the year but I do know it was an R/T model and it was fast as hell.... the first day she got it was my first day of 9th grade.... and my mom never had a problem with her stealth... but my mom used to let me drive it during my 11th and 12th grade year every Friday.... But she eventually sold it well after I graduated.....
I've seen videos of the stealth doing under 5 to 60 and top speed at 160 mph. I have the old magazine tests and they varied many if the performance statistics.
Road & Track got it to do 4.8s 0-60, and some others claim 5.5 or so, so it really depends on the driver, but I think getting it under 5 seconds wouldn't be too difficult at all.