Bishop Barron on "World War Z"

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  • Another part of a video series from Wordonfire.org. Bishop Barron will be commenting on subjects from modern day culture. For more visit www.wordonfire.org

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  • @BishopBarron
    @BishopBarron  11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oy vey. I have entertained tens of thousands of comments, the vast, vast majority of which disagree with me. I would challenge anyone to look through even a small percentage of these comments and honestly tell me that I "block or ban anyone who disagrees with me." I do indeed block certain participants when they become abusive, obscene, mean-spirited, or tiresomely repetitive. If you don't approve of my policy in this regard, I would suggest that you get your own website.

  • @BishopBarron
    @BishopBarron  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God bless you, friend. I bet if you called your parish priest, he'd be delighted to talk to you.

  • @ironymatt
    @ironymatt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    *SPOILER ALERT*
    Another (albeit minor) parallel that I noticed in the movie relating to the Gospel message was the scene where Lt. Segen was bitten on the hand while in the midst of battle, with Gerry right next to her, and as they both realize the implications of that bite, he very quickly lops off her infected hand, thus saving her. It struck me as a brutally literal example of Christ's admonition that if one's hand causes one to sin, better to cut it off than to let it condemn one to hell.

  • @corysowers6326
    @corysowers6326 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bishop, I am one of your biggest fans I download your reviews to listen to on walks.

  • @MNAMatthewNinoAzcuy
    @MNAMatthewNinoAzcuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bless you sir. I love hearing you talk

  • @imommtube
    @imommtube 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woooooow Fr Barron every time I see one of your videos I learn something ! In fact tuo gave mea point to think all month

  • @gisshebap21
    @gisshebap21 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Father for this message. It is EXACTLY what I needed. God Bless you and your team.

  • @Cristinact
    @Cristinact 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great to hear that while watching World War Z you were making links to the Council of Trent!! God bless you, Fr. Barron :)

  • @crusaderqk
    @crusaderqk 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your insights Fr. Barron! More power!

  • @BartomiejParysSVD
    @BartomiejParysSVD 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always deep reflection, this is truly dialog with the culture something we desperately need in the Church. Thank you Fr Robert!

  • @251162efw
    @251162efw 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Father, Ten minutes ago I believe I saw you on Italian television, the live broadcast of the pope's audience with seminarians. You shook the pope's hand and looked radiantly happy. In fact, everyone looked happy. A papal bodyguard lifted a little infirm nun into the front row as if she were a child. Auguri, as they say.

  • @yankeesuperstar
    @yankeesuperstar 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the enlightening commentary as usual Father; God Bless you from Southern California

  • @ohalloranpeter
    @ohalloranpeter 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an amazing commentary. Thanks Fr Barron :-)

  • @aarespo
    @aarespo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow. what a wonderful commentary.. thank you again Fr B!

  • @malbowz1257
    @malbowz1257 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    lol Of all the things that could be going through Father Barron's mind while watching World War Z, it was ultimately the Council of Trent that took center stage. I'm not knocking him, I just think it is hilarious in a geeky awesome kind of way. Good analysis!

  • @durendalarcas8209
    @durendalarcas8209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mind blown! I love watching these videos. :)

  • @BishopBarron
    @BishopBarron  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Free will exists. It is not destroyed by sin. But it is severely compromised by it. Think of how the body works when it is in the grip of a severe disease: it functions, but not as well as it should.

  • @BrandonVogt
    @BrandonVogt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review, Father! I always appreciate your insights.

  • @lauragilbert9326
    @lauragilbert9326 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! That pretty much sums up the feelings this invoked. I never really looked at sin that way. As a former protestant, only recently becoming involved with the Catholic church, I still have the tendency to feel hopeless because I can't shake the sin and wind up giving up on getting closer to God for a time because I feel inadequate. But when you look at it like this...needless to say, I'm in tears. All I can say is thank you! Not just for these, but for "Catholicism" as well. Peace be with you!

  • @unbornhumanrights
    @unbornhumanrights 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did watch World War Z and had not picked up on the similarities thank you for this commentary I see it now. Thank you for all that you do!

  • @malani39
    @malani39 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great commentary, Fr!

  • @NicolasAntonioJimenez
    @NicolasAntonioJimenez 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't speak for bonnie43uk, but I didn't read that comment as a criticism of this channel. Quite the contrary... the fact that I also perceive a lack of clergy speaking intellectually on TH-cam has a lot to do with why I enjoy wordonfirevideo so much. In general, though, priests do SEEM to be underutilizing TH-cam. I think this channel is a good model for others to follow.

  • @sshealy1
    @sshealy1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Catholicism is definitely the Fullness of the Faith. Protestant theologies have been likened to walking in a house and finding the sofa or the kitchen table missing since they have deleted so many spiritual elements, e.g. saints, sacramental, transubstantiation. Ask yourself if the phrases "New Testament" and "Books of the New Testament" signify two different things. (The New Testament = Eucharist). If they mean the same to you, I recommend that you order Fr. Barron's Catholicism series.

  • @NicolasAntonioJimenez
    @NicolasAntonioJimenez 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. I'll check it out.

  • @johnmaynard9458
    @johnmaynard9458 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these videos!

  • @markugolini5395
    @markugolini5395 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Fr. Barron, for the commentary! I saw the movie and enjoyed it myself. I am now reading the book, which is actually quite different than the movie. Unfortunately, the book has a less salvific method for stemming the tide of contagion. It's a quick read if ever you have the chance.

  • @Huntgoddessfishery
    @Huntgoddessfishery 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    In our diocese, we have a program for people who want this type of introductory information. It's a three-week program (one evening per week) for people who want to know more. I think it's called "Catholicism 101"?
    Your diocese might have something like that also. Check it out.

  • @Ingrid0410
    @Ingrid0410 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Father!!!!! Wonder if the filmmakers are Christians! Thank you for this. Simply amazing! I passed it along to my son, who I'm sure will go see this!

  • @CarcharodonMeg
    @CarcharodonMeg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church is a great place to ask particular questions like these, my friend!

  • @ManuelCarrasco82
    @ManuelCarrasco82 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Father Barron, thank you very much for your videos! I really enjoy them and always learn something from them.
    Have you seen "Cloud Atlas"? I would love to hear your comments about that movie :)

  • @bernthalcraig
    @bernthalcraig 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's very much like the old "Omega Man" idea with Charleton Heston. Fine review!

  • @Duvaineth
    @Duvaineth 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello! im glad i found your videos and i was wondering if you could explain genesis 6 but also counting the different versions of it if possible,thank you

  • @Ingrid0410
    @Ingrid0410 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ronnie! I feel a bit the same. Our Catholic "communities" care and preach so much about the starving folks in Haiti for instance, how they're building schools, etc. that people in our own parishes are severely neglected sometimes, and depressed, on food stamps, going through divorces right and left, etc. More support groups, couples' Bible Studies are needed in parishes today to EVANGELIZE Catholics in our own parishes!!! Good point Ronnie. Talk to your Priest about it as Fr. said! God Bless

  • @CalcuttaClippers
    @CalcuttaClippers 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful insight... love it!

  • @sphynxalive
    @sphynxalive 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very perceptive analysis of wwz padre. U have any on conjuring?

  • @BishopBarron
    @BishopBarron  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've done videos on any number of political issues: abortion (many times), the HHS mandate, gay marriage, non-violence and just war, etc.

  • @jsignal
    @jsignal 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, if I recall correctly that "cross" was a 70s-style modern sculpture vaguely reminiscent of a tree. It wasn't exactly subtle when Charlton Heston stretched out his arms, hanging on a tree.

  • @rhlogic
    @rhlogic 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like hearing Thomas Aquinas himself. Very good!

  • @SolutionPub
    @SolutionPub 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Father, which version of sin do you think is most accurate, free will vs. passage from for-bearers? I think i get from your tone that you agree with the Council of Trent but i just want to be sure. Also, what do you think are the weaknesses of that paradigm. Certainly it would be an easy step to feeling one is off the hook for sin passed through the bloodstream; a sort of self-referential sin loop.

  • @BrandonVogt
    @BrandonVogt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Again, great review.

  • @raluke
    @raluke 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting and I'm going to have to see the movie again. I was lukewarm about it but now that I've heard Father's ideas about it, I'll have to try it again.

  • @jnuval
    @jnuval 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fr. Barron, Have you considered doing a commentary on the HBO Liberace movie, "Behind the Candelabra"? There's an interesting scene where Liberace explains his being Catholic.

  • @sshealy1
    @sshealy1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another priest who has started utilizing TH-cam is Fr. Brian Carpenter on his WorkingToBeatHell channel with a couple of minutes of good preaching on current topics.

  • @tucktheduck5119
    @tucktheduck5119 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of dantes inferno the way he has to travel through the issue to solve it as dante showed hell

  • @sandranlembosantamarina6227
    @sandranlembosantamarina6227 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bishop.you have done a very important comparison, that in my family I have started to recognise with my daughter of 17 and boy of 10. already.I am sure in every city happens.we live in Dubai and sometimes we walk to very near shops or grocery late afternoon and we find man walking suspiciously we called zombies. without a doubt we meant possible dangerous sick of sinful life in look for a pray.your analogy to the movie is very profound to go and continue to read about the referenced you mentioned.God Bless Fhather Barron

  • @capone70
    @capone70 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful job, Father. My hat's off to any priest who mentions Trent without following it by a negative.

  • @jimon82262
    @jimon82262 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW, Thank you Father, I never saw sin that way.

  • @BishopBarron
    @BishopBarron  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Friend, I've done numerous videos on new atheism, and I've been involved in lengthy debates with atheists for years. Take a look through the nearly 300 videos that I've produced.

  • @bygonevexation114
    @bygonevexation114 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fr. Barron please do a commentary on the BBC show: Sherlock

  • @metallica04100
    @metallica04100 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Father! Great videos! If possible, could you do a video on "The Conjuring?" It's a horror movie that just came out. It was a pretty solid movie, coming from someone who doesn't usually follow that genre, and it got me interested in the whole exorcism thing.

  • @251162efw
    @251162efw 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh. Thanks.

  • @KnightOwl2006
    @KnightOwl2006 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting analysis.

  • @jessewallace12able
    @jessewallace12able 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible review and movie

  • @abbyratliff4954
    @abbyratliff4954 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fr Barron: regarding propagation, not imitation: Are there perhaps Darwinian/biological explanations for how selfishness and fear are hard wired into our very being, only to be overcome through a grace-infused will and intellect? Curious to hear your thoughts.

  • @jamaicanification
    @jamaicanification 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Father Barron I thought your commentary was very interesting, but there was something I was thinking about when you spoke about sin. In the Eastern Orthodox tradition when they speak about Original Sin they speak about how we inherit the consequences of Adam's sin(Death) but not the guilt, and that Christ's purpose was to die to conquer death. The Western tradition however since St Augustine seems to have also emphasized that we inherit the guilt and sin nature of Adam(continued)

  • @thedarktower79
    @thedarktower79 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Norm Chouinard
    That's right.

  • @metallica04100
    @metallica04100 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I can't speak to every encounter between you and Fr. Barron, but I have seen a lot of his videos and read the comments on many of them. He speaks genuinely and intelligently, even though I don't agree with him on everything and I've seen many instances where he responds to posts disagreeing with him. Also, he hasn't banned you in this section which leads me to believe he doesn't ban everyone he disagrees with.

  • @nurtured-channel2953
    @nurtured-channel2953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's impressive how everything's point's to Christ Sovereignty

  • @WrongTimeline
    @WrongTimeline 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I recall "Omega Man" even used the imagery of death on the "cross" at the very end. I had no problem liking that movie.

  • @sshealy1
    @sshealy1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Catholic Ten Commandments doesn’t have a separate commandment for graven images like the Protestant Ten Commandments since the “graven” images are assumed into the earlier commandments. In the passage on graven images, God forbids the worship of statues, but not the religious use of statues. He commands the use of statues in Exodus 25:18-20, Numbers 21:8-9, I Chronicles 28:18-19, Ezekiel 41:17-18. He loves cherubim statues in his temples!
    Remember: Worship = No Use = Yes

  • @Flamenco4U
    @Flamenco4U 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate how you have described sin as propagated (as a disease) rather than something learned or imitated. It is "anti-creative." Thank you for this commentary Fr. Barron. I only wish that you had said that you didn't like it, so that I wouldn't have to go see another zombie movie.

  • @BishopBarron
    @BishopBarron  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're assuming that hermeneutics is the art of discerning the intention of the author. I'm playing a different game.

  • @lesliestutheit2265
    @lesliestutheit2265 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for all the videos and books you have out. They are very informative to say the least. I have a question about the origin of sin."The Catechism of the Catholic Church" states that, "God is in no way, directly or indirectly the cause of moral evil." However, as I understand it, the church also teaches that nothing existed without God creating it and nothing exists apart from God. Where did sin come from then, if God is not the ultimate cause of it, and thus did not create it?

  • @jamaicanification
    @jamaicanification 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would your thoughts be on this? Please respond if you can

  • @jeffmarlett1572
    @jeffmarlett1572 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome Catholic reclamation of a fun pop culture movie.

  • @HolyKhaaaaan
    @HolyKhaaaaan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Point made; Fr. Barron is one priest among thousands who do not. Just as Archbishop Sheen was one bishop among hundreds.
    Nevertheless, the Truth does not require that it be taught only by a bishop, or a priest - only that it originate from Christ and His Church, in Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium. After that, however it gets out there - and it DOES get out there!! - it just has to get out there.
    And then maybe, someday, more priests will take courage and begin to speak up.

  • @ioanbebb595
    @ioanbebb595 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool

  • @jsignal
    @jsignal 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch "I Am Legend" or "Omega Man" for the same theme of salvation of the human race by a self-sacrificing Christ-like character who sheds his own blood to save us all... from zombies. I'd love to hear Fr Barron's commentary on I Am Legend.

  • @markugolini5395
    @markugolini5395 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not really sure how you'd apply the framework in this video to that sort of scenario.

  • @markugolini5395
    @markugolini5395 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would have been profoundly uncomfortable for people to see it. In the US, the government decides to consolidate West of the Rocky Mountains and then spreads tells most of the population East of the Rockies to head North into Canada. That way, most of the zombie hordes would follow them and not follow those trying to escape over the Rockies. The hope though was that the people fleeing north would be relatively safe as winter came and slowed the zombies down.

  • @gitsays
    @gitsays 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the comparison to crack babies. I'll be using that whenever I have to explain original sin. Thank you!

  • @sp3cialk79
    @sp3cialk79 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is, but we choose him out of our life when we sin. After all we do have free will. When God gave us free will, he created the condition where it was possible to obey him or disobey.

  • @tinman1955
    @tinman1955 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure I have a decent layman's understanding of the broad strokes at least. If you look at the comment by sshealy1 which I responded to I think it agrees with Catholic teaching - what I said follows from that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @tinman1955
    @tinman1955 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very thoughtful analogy to Christianity except for one thing: If Christ solved the problem of sin then why is there still sin even among those who take the Eucharist?

  • @joevdburg
    @joevdburg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This commentary sets the tone for all true christian spirituality. I'm thinking of the protestant verses catholic cultures. Protestants appear to me to follow the moral code as the antidote to sin. It appears the catholic inoculation seems ineffective in the visible healing of recipients. Catholics sin as much or more than those who ignore the true 'antidote'. What is missing here? Faith? Love?

  • @sshealy1
    @sshealy1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your question illustrates the difference in being redeemed and being saved. Christ redeemed us all, but not all are saved. Redemption is collective and salvation is individual. A person can reject the graces won by Christ even though he is redeemed.

  • @andreaostrovletania
    @andreaostrovletania 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's some kooky stuff, Father. Btw, OMEGA MAN covered this ground with less gore.

  • @TheBermudaMan
    @TheBermudaMan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the subject of horror films, there was another one released this year entitled THE LORDS OF SALEM, made by Rob Zombie, a heavy metal/black metal artist. Ultimately, THE LORDS OF SALEM isn't so much disturbing because of its gruesome imagery, but because of the ending's implication that Satan has taken over the Earth, and this is basically okay! (Imagine if Friedkin's THE EXORCIST was on the demon's side, and you might get a good idea of what it's like.)

  • @rlburton
    @rlburton 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha wonderful video! The idea that a zombie is a metaphor for fallen humanity is actually present in much of the whole zombie-genre. That's why the popular "Dawn of the Dead" takes place in a shopping mall; a metaphor for mass mindless consumerism.

  • @markugolini5395
    @markugolini5395 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The book is a series of after action reports. Accounts of survivors 20 years after the fact. In the book, countries follow the "South African Plan" and basically commit to only being able to save 10% of their populations.

  • @splinterbyrd
    @splinterbyrd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Er..... so what should we do to prevent youngsters descending into crime? Pray??

  • @ansonv
    @ansonv 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    After seeing the movie today, I believe the movie plot turned out a little differently. From my understanding,
    Brad Pitt's character injects himself with a curable deadly disease that is later treated by the scientists once he escapes. While what he did was sacrificial, an antidote was not made from his own blood . His act of being a willing guinea pig does lead to the saving of many lives.
    (I guess I'm one of those medical details people)

  • @Matthysable
    @Matthysable 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oops! Doesn't seem to have blocked you!

  • @ryan82scott
    @ryan82scott 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not to sound harsh, but perhaps you are looking in the wrong place? And, if you search Fr. Barron's videos a bit more, for instance, you'll see he does a lot more than movie reviews. Still, movies are watched by secularists and believers alike, so why not comment on them? If you look through the comments on these films, you'll see a fair share who appreciate Fr. B's views. This, in a sense, is evangelization.

  • @OGWanKenobi
    @OGWanKenobi 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Graven images: Exodus 25:18-21, God commands Moses to make two statues of angels for the Ark of the Covenant. Nmbrs 21:8-9, God commands Moses to make a bronze serpent. Other examples of God endoresed graven images: 1 Kings 6:23-28, 1 Kings 6:29, Ezekiel 41:17-25.
    The command forbids the making of graven (carved) images that would be worshipped as gods, i.e. idols.

  • @WrongTimeline
    @WrongTimeline 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could it be that zombies symbolize peoples greatest fear of dissolution of society, begun in movements like "The New Morality", movements which run their courses like epidemics?

  • @alexos8741
    @alexos8741 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if a movie needs to be "interpreted", as someone here says...but the comparison of brad pitt's character with Christ, and how he saved the world with his blood as Jesus...well I'll never figure it out, if I didn't listened the father's review!!!

  • @peixecoruja
    @peixecoruja 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    But isn't God everywhere? Omnipresent? (sorry, didn't read the book you mentioned).

  • @normchouinard8766
    @normchouinard8766 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inheritance of sin = Our fallen nature?

  • @ajobimlover
    @ajobimlover 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised you would say that after watching this entire video. Most of what he talks about involves the parallels to the nature of sin. He's not really talking about his views on a movie at all. Although now that I write this, I'm starting to think you didn't watch the whole video.

  • @sp3cialk79
    @sp3cialk79 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absence of God is where it comes from. Read books on Catherine of Sienna she explains it there.

  • @251162efw
    @251162efw 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Father, I've watched and learned from many of your videos and understand how you want to reach out to evangelize through culture. You're articulate and have a message.
    But you do not speak on political issues. Are drones being used ethically? Was Edward Snowden right in illegally revealing the existence of a possibly unconstitutional or unethical surveillance program? Is healthcare a right within society? Death penalty? Military spending?

  • @Mysticamusings
    @Mysticamusings 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rather it's more like using the parallels as irony to undermine Christianity.

  • @ProtectionUnderLaw
    @ProtectionUnderLaw 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ignore me, buy don't hate me in the name of misunderstanding. I'm blocking, don't reply or I'll contact TH-cam and report you.

  • @tinman1955
    @tinman1955 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well then, I suppose that if World War Z was analogous to Christianity then Brad Pitt would not save humanity from the zombies - he'd have made human salvation conditional to individual humans' belief in & acceptance of Brad's redemption.
    I think I'll wait 'till it plays on TV.

  • @HolyKhaaaaan
    @HolyKhaaaaan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    And what part of the world are you fortunate enough to be in mah boi? Unfortunately, even here in Omaha, which is a fairly orthodox part of the world, with many good Catholic priests and a good archbishop, priests don't tend to talk very much from the pulpit about the faith, save in an insipid fashion.
    How are you conversing with priests when they yammer your ear off about the 20 proofs etc?
    I was fortunate enough to find Catholic Answers and EWTN. I did not have STRONG priests to turn to.

  • @Mysticamusings
    @Mysticamusings 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The movie, from your description of it, sounds similar to Omega Man. I really disliked that movie, though, since it seemed to me to lift the Christian story and the conclusion was that science (or, a scientist) is savior (with his blood) against religious, anti-science, zombie-like, monk-like, fanatics who blamed scientific advancement for the apocalyptic state of the world and their own zombie-like condition. Sometimes Christian parallels aren't pro-Christian.

  • @Theaksten
    @Theaksten 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are mentioning a lot of social issues that are not intrinsically evil. Any state has a right to impose its sovereignty on its own borders. Additionally, these social issues are not equivalent to intrinsic evils.

  • @Flamenco4U
    @Flamenco4U 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I meant to say [sin] is anti-creative.

  • @laffiteaumusic
    @laffiteaumusic 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    you don't know catholicism then because you might say we don't believe all the native americans prior to evangelization went to hell. What does that mean?
    your statement reveals a lack of knowledge on catholicism
    the philisophical concepts in catholicism are quite different from most religions
    ask questions