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Buying a truck without a hitch would be almost as bad as buying one without cruise control.
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Lol
😂😂😂😂😂 damn bro
I’m amazed that Nathan didn’t say that when Andre mentioned having to have a hitch.
Better to go without cruise control than a hitch! Most manual transmission trucks always lacked cruise control. But no hitch means No Towing! Which you could have just gotten a cheaper car!
This week I got to test drive a new TRD Sport Tacoma at my local dealer. It had just about every option and stickered at just over $53k. Here are some of the things i noticed...
Pros:
- The interior build quality, a known sore spot for most midsize trucks, feels and sounds very solid in most areas
- The large touchscreen is well integrated and doesn't feel tacked on, or obstruct the driver's view of the road
- The bed is very deep and has useful integrated storage and plug-in options
- The ability to lower and raise the tailgate with a touch of the tail-light button on EITHER side is awesome
- Cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel, not a stock, and are easy to use
- The front cupholders are East and West orientated, no reaching over the shifter to grab your beverage. Yay!
- Physical climate and lighting controls. Yay
- Great power, although it is buried deep in the pedal. Toyota definitely wants you to drive this thing like an elderly person.
- Decent door pocket storage! Unlike the GM twins which have next to none...
- Good storage under the rear seats
- Wide-opening glovebox
- Front tow hooks. Yay!
- Fold down rear seats
- Adjustable projector headlights
- Power rear sliding window (some competitors are manual only)
- Power seat controls, including lumbar, on both front seats is awesome
- Finally, plenty of headroom! At last my 6'3" frame can fit in a Tacoma!
Cons:
- You really do have to bury your foot in the gas pedal if you want to get anywhere anytime soon...
- The door pockets are very thin and flimsy, just like the Tundra
- Speaking of the Tundra, there is no place to put your foot on the bumper when the tailgate is down (the Frontier also fails here)
- The 4wd shifter absolutely DIGS into my leg. Lowering the seat helps, but puts me in the same awkward seating position of the last gen Taco
- Partly because of this, I could not find a comfortable seating position. My 15 minute test drive left me aching and sore.
- No fold down rear cup holders... I think it is the only one in the class without them!
- No rear climate vents (Frontier and Ranger also lack them, GM twins, Ridgeline, and Gladiator all have them)
- Center console storage is shallow and lackluster. The Frontiers is almost twice as deep!
- Not sure what the point of the complex rear coil suspension is, still rides like a truck. The Frontier rides nicer and smoother on leaf springs...
- Front chin spoiler is ugly, but removing it lowers fuel economy... lose/lose
- Lane centering only works when cruise is on, as far as I can tell
- Speaking of lane centering, the truck absolutely demanded that I have a death-grip on the steering wheel. Anything less would result in warning
- Only 4 solid tie-down points in the bed is tied for worst in class along with the Gladiator
- $53k is insane for a mid-level trim... That's Canyon Denali money! That's nearly Ranger Raptor money!
So it's a $53k underpowered pile of heaping shit
I really really hate this truck. Nissan has the best one right now. It’ll be the most long term reliable midsize out there.
@@rhodesianhunter9360 I definitely agree that the Nissan should be most reliable in the long run, and there's a strong argument to be made that it is the best value in the class. But, objectively speaking, I think the Canyon is the overall best truck in the class right now.
Other than predicted reliability, center console storage, door pocket storage, and class-exclusive bed rails, there's really nothing else that the Frontier does better than the Canyon.
Meanwhile, the Canyon has a bigger touchscreen, a fully digital gauge cluster, a heads up display, more soft touch materials in the cabin, available quilted leather seats, rear air vents, more tie down locations in the bed, rear bumper steps, a storage bin in the tailgate, more towing and hauling capacity, more powerful engine, more fuel efficient, is faster...
@@rhodesianhunter9360nisan very ugly
Overrated junk. Engine blowns as a tow truck. No way Taco bell of trucks ... cheap truck high price.
I must admit I'm confused. I'm a Brit, living in the US, for the last 41 years.This continued discussion, about the difference in 1, or 2 miles per gallon when deciding which truck to purchase. Considering, most Americans, drive at 80mph, on roads with a 55mph speed limit, why do you worry about fuel consumption?
There must be something wrong with my speedometer. Because whenever I’m driving around at the speed limit, everyone else is passing me like I’m standing still!
Cheers from America 😄
Most Americans think the mpg improves the faster you go. That’s true up to maybe 60 mph with today’s tall gearing.
I am pretty sure it’s not true at all at any speed because air resistance is proportional to the SQUARE of the speed not the speed itself. The higher the air resistance the more energy the engine has to exert to move the constant object (truck) forward.
1 MPH speed needs less energy than 2 MPH speed and so on.
It didn't matter back un the 1980's and 1990's when gas was below $1.50/gallon. But does today when gas is above $3/gallon and had been $4+/gallon.
Futher to my previous comment. I bought a new, Off road 4runner, at the beginning of January. I like the old, proven reliability aspect of this model. I learned to drive in England, in 1959, stick shift. I'm Old school, I drive the speed limit these days. I'm handicapped so, I don't drive much anymore. I believe in a break in period for new vehicles. I've only driven 600 miles since purchase in January, I'm averaging 21 mpg, so, I believe, watching ones speed does save fuel. I will be having my first oil change at 1,000 miles, even though I've had to argue with service managers, in recent years, that it's no longer necessary.
I’m so glad you guys are professional…down to earth and you get to the heart of the matter. You’re helping me in a choice. The very best in your business ❤
Y’all are the best at what you do. Appreciate it all the content!
Superb job, thanks for all the detail on the new truck. You are the best youtube channel for the new Tacoma. Well done!
I'm surprised nobody makes those side steps on sprung hinges so they can flip up if you hit them.
What a nice job you guys do. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Great video! Enjoyed the format and content!
Awesome, thank you!
You guy`s are ALWAYS doing a amazing job...
Love the honesty! Why I'm still here
Great walk around guys!!!
I love the fact you did a Toyota TRD Off Road to Chevy Trail Boss comparison. Two top choices I've been looking at.
I got Goodyear Territory AT w/Kevlar on my 2023 Tacoma Access Cab TRD Off Road.
I got a 2023 because I like the clamshell doors, naturally aspirated V6 and the long bed. It looks like an inflated version of my Dad’s 1995.5 Tacoma Xtra Cab 4x4 V6 all manual (transmission, windows & locks), both of them black.
Andre, the SR has a smaller digital gauge cluster (like 2023 colorado) with 2 digital gauges on the sides of it.
29:16 the radio knob is small and slippery between the fingers which makes it difficult to make adjustments.
My 2017 Tacoma was the same.
I purchased silicone wedding ring that was the perfect size and now it is just a little larger and has more grip. I bought silver to color match my trucks exterior.
What did your significant other think about your polygamist tendencies? 😃
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Married to his Tacoma...
@@is6566 I don't have too much interest in how they think about it. I have a 7 vehicle rotation. If one of the other's don't like it, they get moved down on the rotational priority of driving time.
😃 Seven! Wow are you located in United Arab Emirates or Utah? Getting them all nicely lubed and friction free under the same roof would be almost a full time job for me. 😍
Frontier and Ridgeline are the only dog friendly ones though. Once the back seat is up you have a flat surface for storage or dogs.
Sorry your wife doesn't fit
I keep seeing the comments about 4wd engagement. Haven't had any issues and in 1615 miles since new, I've done about 130 on service roads and ORV parks.
Great review guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The fuel tank is probably wider at the top and VERY narrow towards the bottom. SO the float goes down slowly for the top “half” and quickly at the bottom.
I bought a Redarc brake controller for my Tacoma which integrated nicely on the dash
My 2020 Colorado Z71 with V6, best was 8.5 km per 100km, so 27 per gallon.. with a tail wind. Usually 9.2. Towing 16 foot boat and motor , loaded with gear,14.5 per in central Canada.
As someone who has been through back problems the handle on the pillars make a big difference getting in and out of a truck. The overhead handles suck and grabbing the steering wheel doesn't help you releive pressure off the back. I've seen some of these midsize offer the heavy duty handles for passenger and rear but not driver which makes no sense unless they are trying to prohibit a blind spot.
It doesn't add to the blind spots at all though. The 3rd gens have an aftermarket solution that adds a grab handle there. I think their theory is probably that it was pointless since you have a steering wheel there you can grab for the same purpose.
@@RedWingsninetyone The problem is bendiing in to grab a wheel that moves. It seems easy until you have a smushed disc pushing aginst your spinal cord. LoL. With the handle on the pillar you can lift into the vehicle instead of pull yourself in. It was one of the reasons it was easier to get into my F250 versus one of our suv. Even without the injury I find it more convenient. I understand they have to justify costs and such.
@@spyder000069 your steering wheel should be locked in place when the vehicle is not running. It should be pretty rare that you're ever getting in with it still running, but everyone is different. I don't disagree about the handle, I just think they thought to save cost when there is a steering wheel right there.
Good video, but would like to remind Nathan that most of us 3rd generation Tacoma owners really love our trucks.
What does he know he buys Hyundai 🤔 whatever that vehicle he has😮
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Didn't love the trans on mine.
@@whodey59is it a 3g or 3.5g?
@@marcJoel 2017 TRD Sport. Worst trans I have ever had in a vehicle. Did all the software updates and still was constantly searching for gears going uphill. And engine was underpowered. Amazes me the Tacoma cult following.
You'll NEVER Convince people that know about trucks, a small motor with a turbo or a super charger is the way to go!! I'll keep my 21' TRD V6 Allllllllllllll Day... In 3 or 5 yrs these Turbos could be toast, especially if you are towing, Fogettaboutit...
Yup... Your V6 value just went waaaay up!!
You'll never convince people that KNOW trucks that a wimpy little v6 is the way to go, when V8 rule!!
I don't need a FULL Size truck, nor a gas guzzler ya derp!@@garys2157
Awesome video. But this is to Toyota.
Toyota, as a Tacoma owner and advocate of your brand, I would think you’d make dual zone AC standard for a TRD truck, as well as a vertical sliding rear window like the crewmax Tundra. A regular sliding window at the very bare bones. But had you made all double cabs (crew cab) Tacomas come with that fully opening rear window, and standard dual zone AC, many people would likely feel like the 45 THOUSAND dollars they spend is getting them something. Because they can literally get a LOADED 3rd gen with leather and sunroof for $45k. Idk. A bit of a step back. Know your clientele a bit more.
Awsome pod cast!
Thanks!
How does the base audio system sound? No reviews giving info on this. JBL reviews are hot and cold but how about the base?
I would like to see a MPG loop comparison with the Colorado.
They already have done the. fuel mileage test on the Tacoma. It was getting 24.2 mpg at 75 mph from Texas to Colorado.
@@wt9653He means the 100 + mile loop they do around the Denver Metro area
@@wt9653 I am aware of that but want to see how it compares to the competition in a controlled test. If you want to get technical, they got 24 mpg from Houston to Dallas.
Love this team; more please.
I have those same sidesteps on my Tundra. The side edges are a lot sharper than yours. When you get out of the cab you seem to slid out and your ankle catches the edge and can draw some blood. The good news it only happens once to each person.
It’s funny I also have those side steps, I’m only 5’ tall so I use them when getting out. But everyoneeeee else hates them for your reason 🤣
Thanks!
Thanks so much for your support!
I was really looking forward to the new taco. I have a 2020 tacoma TRD off-road that I tow a 20ft travel trailer with a lot and take to Moab. I was really looking forward to the additional power and better performance of the over all powertrain. Which it sounds like it had but the smaller gas tank is a killer. I was already limited in the 3rd gen, 18 gal just won't cut it when towing. And what is with a 45K truck not having power seats? I hate the engine transmission combo in my 3rd gen but I am starting to question if the 4 gen is in the cards or not for me.
That fuel gauge might be a Toyota fuel pump thing. My Corolla did the same thing. I changed the fuel pump, just the pump, and now it works all the time. I used the original housing and level, but somehow it works fine now. I guess I knocked it while removing or taking the assembly apart that it doesn't hang up on full anymore.
Thank you for another indepth review! I do have a request, would you be interested in adding a rear-facing carseat fit test to your truck interior reviews? I'm currently shopping between the Tacoma, Colorado, and Ranger, and a big selling point for me would be if a rear-facing car seat would fit in the second row and how it fits. Some of my peers are also truck owners and rear-facing carseat fitment is a significant selling point. Thanks!
so when do you do aftermarket steps? Will you do a City only MPG test AND talk about the fact that they shrunk the fuel tank - meaning does it actually go farther then the previous gen which had a bigger tank.
My 5th Gen Colorado had a tow rating of 7000 pounds. It was the worst truck I ever pulled my camper with. Camper was 3560 pounds. I hated that truck in so many ways, not just towing. Was so glad when I traded that truck in and went back to a full size.
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Great Review...it's entertaining, too
I wonder if the gauge bar could be adjusted with a software update
I believe that box under the rear seat passenger side is for the cooling fan when it is a hybrid
How does the power compare to the outgoing Ranger?
That blue looks great.
I believe the Trailhunter has the exhaust exit tucked up above the rear axle. I don’t know why Toyota didn’t do that on the TRD Offroad. I agree about the steps too. I don’t know why Toyota insists on adding those to their Offroad versions of the 4Runner and Tacoma.
Is the bed any bigger inside (sides height)than the 2023? So glad to see Totoyta added the tow hook's. One if the reason's I didn't buy the 2024 Tundra. I used my Trail boss tow hooks 4 times the other day in a snow storm pulling other vehicles out.
24 bed is deeper than the 23
Are the rear doors/seats narrower then the 2023?
Great review as always. Really looking forward to when y’all get your hands on a fully loaded hybrid version.
Gotta admit the price tag has me a bit worried as I look forward to the new 4Runner.
I'm hoping you guys do an off road test between this and Andre's TrailBoss !
Sweeeeeeet!! Looks beautiful 🔥
What is the Tow Capacity of the Off Road Manual
I'm here for the humor and had to wait to the end of the video to get it, but worth it...
Such a great truck. I think Toyota almost nailed it. Wish they had added a couple inches of legroom in front or back, the Colorado has better combined legroom by a decent margin. And I wish there was a factory option to remove storage bin things under rear seats for a more flat floor.
Nice truck look not every truck going to be perfect. Looking at getting one in middle of the year after all the kinks worked out but in a manual transmission been talking to my local dealership about it. The 4x4 For around $40,000
To the Toyota guys that cut down my Colorado Trail Boss interior ,,,,these Tacoma interior buttons, 4x4 dial, touchscreen, LOOKS LIKE FISHER PRICE, 🤯
Some one has hurt wittle feelings 😂
Maybe compare your truck to the more premium versions like the TRD Pro and Trail Hunter. 14-inch touchscreen display looks a lot better obvoisly than this one. Interior obviosly is gonna be better on the higher trims as well.
Be nice to get the engineer on the show to have him explain the issues and missing features to see his reaction. Our Honda CRV has a 14gal tank
So i notice the Hi-low jack catch in the back of the vehicle, but what happens when you are carrying your hi-low and want to jack up the front? Its an awfully big thing to only use on one side of the vechicle... Was there a jack point on the front also? Looks like a nice ride! The missing V6 seems like a not so good point, but your use tests seem to indicate not a big miss... Nice review!
Looks like a great 1st year of the new generation. Plenty of room for improvement but still a solid step forward from the last one. Toyota is moving in a nice direction, looking forward to what's next from them.
dang that blue looks great.
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Hey Andre...ITS NOT MISSING CRUISE ! LOL.
I barely use cruise. On Toys the transmission downshifts if the speed falls .00001 mph below the set point. How hard is it to push the accelerator? It keeps you more alert.
How many times do you go off road . Get real we need mpg and quality
Then buy a Prius, princess.
We go off-road about once every two weeks. That does not include overlanding, snow/ice driving and basic camping.
@NathanDAdlen ya, another of these commenters that don't live in CO...
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RIP the best gens
Anyone know how deep of water the Tacoma trail hunter can handle since it's hybrid
I like that blue paint.
It would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison of the "mid-range" TRD Sport & Off-Road models, Gen 3 vs. 2024. Toyota seems to have removed standard trim items from each and forced buyers to pay for additional trim packages to gain lost items.
They did!
Which video? Thx in advance.@@timalan7406
27:00 are not the Toyota Safety Sense 3.0/Driver Assist features able to be swttiched off on the infotainment screen to avoid hearing all of those bing and bong warnings?
Hopefully, most likely you’ll be able to use the Trail Hunter mid pipe dump on these.
My old Sierra did that with the fuel gauge. The first 1/4 tank would get as many miles as the last 3/4.
These are cool trucks but now way it can replace my diesel rubicon gladiator. Would like to see a TRD pro with all the options and see what kind of tire you can actually get on them. Didnt have to modify the fenders at all to fit 37s on the gladiator.
I can’t get over the 4 cylinder turbo
Nice that is does not have a bunch of unnecessary features. Keep it simple.
I think I would miss the tailgate storage that comes with the Colorado and Canyon. I am surprised how much I use it.
This one has a storage bin built into the bed side.
BLUEBERRY! I had an awesome time very enjoyable.
“YOU GUYS CHEAPED OUT” is def’ what i’d say when it comes to this truck lmao
My 2023 Toyota Tundra base SR has soft upper door sill trim, the rear doors (Crew Max) is hard plastics though. The new Tacoma interior is a step backwards, drivetrain is too new to see if there are any major problems.......The more I look at the midsize line up and the new models coming out, the more I like the Frontier.
The drivetrain is pretty reliable so far. It's already been running in the Lexus NX and Highlander since 2021. We just have to see how reliable it is with constant towing. I wouldn't be super worried seeing how it has to replace the much loved and indestructible 2gr V6.
When you top off the gas tank how many miles the truck can drive until it needs to refill the gas again when the fuel meter shows ends, the reason I want to know is on the video you said the fuel meter is not accurate
Not that it's inaccurate, just that it is still showing full even though they've driven lots of miles. As someone said, probably just the way the tank is shaped, moves down slow at top, faster toward the bottom. Minor quibble, all anyone looks at anymore is miles til empty.
37:09 The Gladiator lets you use all of that storage space.. And the old 2016 Tacoma that LLOD has does as well, because I remember watching the video about his truck and he showed it.
I dunno what they have there. The hybrids have the battery there. Thankfully it seems like Goose-Gear still makes seat delete for the Tundra Hybrid and it goes over the battery. Hopefully will be the same for 2024 iForce Max Tacoma as well.
That annoying gas gauge issue is done on purpose by manufacturers. Once you refill they don't want the gauge to go down right away so you don't feel like it's a gas hog. They also have it read as empty when there's a couple of gallons left for reserve. So since there's a few gallons missing from the gauge at each end that means that the gauge will drop quickly when it does. This is designed by the same people who set their clocks 10 minutes ahead so they're not late.
I wish they would only do the reserve thing and not the full tank thing.
Walk around is much better than people just talking into mics.
I have a 4runner and the arm rest by the handle on the door is too low, and the arm rest ledge by the window it's too high. If the arm rest were half way between the two it would be just right. I suspect the Tacoma will be the same.
Andre... Stop being so afraid to say anything.... controversial or negative about the trucks you review
30:26 Costco card holder, loyalty store card, or frequent buyer stamp cards. I wish I had one in my 2023 TRD OR ACLB
Crazy that it's 45k and you still get cloth seats. I was looking at the configurator and the only way to get pleather is to pay an extra 8k. I really wish there was an option to add pleather or even vinyl as a standalone option. I would love to buy a 4x4 SR with vinyl seats since I really don't need any of the higher trim level features but I hate cloth.
Fake leather. Basically just nicer vinyl. Toyota calls it SoftTex.@@is6566
Fake leather. Basically just nice vinyl. Toyota calls theirs Softex.@@is6566
Andre, now the Tacoma has broken something preventing 4wd... does your concerns about Taco Vs Colorado change?
The issues are actually minor ones which owners can modify them by themselves. Something that we can't modify is major issues. I'm going to order one once iforceMax version comes out!
No insulation on the underside of the hood? Looks like it was missed at the factory.
Wonder if the Turbo will be a disaster like in the tundra
Who puts the temp control knob to the left of the blower speed knob?
Never thought about it. Does it really matter?
@@Dusdaddy Just an observation. Does it matter? No. Is it different than every vehicle I can remember being in? Yes.
@@number40Fan good observation. I've never really noticed that it was common the other way, interesting
I'm disappointed because my tacoma was supposed to be 46k and now toyota has raised its price to 49k
Thanks for mentioning the side step's. You just saved me some money ! I am 5'9 tall, so, I'll skip that option ! No rear seat arm rests ? I'd like that as an option . A small gas tank ? Not good there ! Wonder if Toyota can make the exaust into a flatter style exaust, instead of round ? Even better, wonder if the engineers listen to modify or re - do some of the con's from fan's of Toyota ? I am rethinking the tocoma purchase. The thing's I want, they don't have ??
I'm a newbie in watching you're video's for 6 months now.
Great job in you're detail's guy's ! Joe Woz - New Hampshire..
For a midsize with a 6ft bed on paper I’d go for the Taco over the Frontier (my opinion). When talking standard 5ft bed you’d have to do your homework on the competition, great options out there.
If you want a 6 foot bed that fits in your garage, the 2924 Frontier king cab is an awesome choice. V6 too.
Seems like a great truck but glad I decided to get a 2023 Colorado ZR2 to go along (not replace) my 2019 Tacoma. Best of both worlds. I just don't see the value in a new Tacoma. I would be in for over 60K for something even closely equipped to the ZR2 and that's before the dealer markups on something like a Pro or a loaded TRD Offroad.
45,300. Tiny bed and marketed as off road. The tires are rated 600 A, A. Long lasting rating and great temp and traction ratings (highway tire). New engine design so reliability still in question. Payload is tiny. For that money I see a full size truck as a better short and long term option...Mileage on this truck is almost identical to my F150, 5.0 liter!
That engine it's already proven in other markets.
toyota has problems with the turbo@@makatron
@@billw8476 I'll dig into that, gotta be super sure before you fork out your money for an already overpriced truck.
Where does it end though? People with Superduty trucks will say the exact same thing about your half ton.. not everyone needs 12k lbs of towing or a vehicle that huge for daily driving. Not saying you're wrong about it being less capable but if I was truck shopping I would likely still get a Taco (with the hybrid) over a Tundra, simply because I don't need a truck the size of a small neighborhood, even if it can haul/tow better... if you live in big open country, I'm sure it makes way more sense, but for anyone living in dense cities, a huge truck is a giant pain in the ass to drive and weave through city streets, traffic, parking lots etc
Toyota had a 4 cup turbo in the 80s in 4 wheel drives 😂
Being in the market for a 2024 midsize truck, I'm leaning toward the Nissan Frontier with the v-6. I don't really like the inline four cylinder turbo engines. I have never seen a gas turbo engine go more than 150,000 miles without some kind of turbo related problem. These trucks will all be well past their powertrain warranties when these problems start happening.
My 2024 Frontier is awesome. V6, 310 hp, more torque than this Taco.
Less expensive and will be running years after this turbo beaks down.
@@whodey59wrong less torque. Since when does 280 beat 317? You are talking about horsepower. In truck HP means nothing with no torque. Think about those dinky hondas in the 90s. 100 hp per liter yes but makes only 100 lbft of torque lol. Put two people in the car and its slower than a geo metro
@beexiong2995 Yep. Frontier has less torque because of the Taco's turbo.
My mistake.
More than 3rd gen Tacoma.
My Frontier is def quicker than my 3rd gen Tacoma was, but probably not quicker than the 4th gen.
Im super eager to see what kind of efficiency the Hybrid version will get driving on highways around 70mph if this one is already getting 23/24 at higher elevations and on winter gas. Im thinking it will be close to what the Landcruiser Prado is supposedly targeting (27mpg) which for a body on frame truck, is pretty dam good all things considered (it has more torque than the V8 Tundra did)
Don't expect much. If it is like the Tundra, the hybrid system is not for MPG as much as added power and reducing emissions by helping you accelerate.
I guess I'm not understanding. Did you make concessions to the truck you would have bought because you wanted to have one of the first ones?
Yes, they would have just got a fully loaded TRD PRO with all the options to show off/test but then they would be waiting another 4-6 months to release any content, and if you want to maximize your views/clicks you have to be the 1st few channels to show this stuff off. Same thing they did with the Tundra they bought 2 years ago
How come we don’t have trucks that have the normal part-time four-wheel-drive but then when your off of that it goes into an all-wheel-drive versus just a basic 2 Wheel Dr. always ask that question. I never got a clear answer.
No mid-sized truck is perfect.
But considering the Taco cost, no V6, low hp, low payload, not made in the US....I'm very happy I bought a new Frontier.
New Tacoma is all hype, good thing Toyota is great at marketing and screwing the loyal enthusiasts
Your frontier has worse payload and power downlow where it matters in a heavy pickup
@beexiong2995 both trucks have pretty low payload for a mid-sized, but mine cost $5,000 less.
Plus not a fan of turbo 4 cylinder engines in a truck. Time will tell I guess.
I also own Frontier and am very happy with my truck.
@beexiong2995 These aren't heavy pick -ups.
And today's truck buyers seem to rather have a back seat for the kiddies than a 6 ft bed for payload.
I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD and the KBB is 24-26k for trade in. But I don’t think my next truck will be a Tacoma.
Go to RSG Metal Fab in Lakewood and have them make you some Rock Sliders
It will be interesting to see if Tacoma sales numbers drop. Great looks but $15000 over priced.
Considering they are only $3k more than last gens, which were a sales leader, I suspect they'll do fine.
What does TFL do with all their vehicles after one year ownership? Can the employees buy them from TFL?
Does TFL stand for Toyota Fast Lane?
Ouch, that’s soooo lame. Try again. You can do better.