Ricoh GR IIIx Review - Same great GR body, now with a 40mm lens!
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- Are you a Ricoh GR lover? If so, the new GR IIIx with a 40mm F2.8 lens may be for you! Find out why this camera is so easy to covet and love. See our full resolution Richoh GR IIIx sample gallery: www.dpreview.com/sample-galle...
0:00 - Intro
0:31 - Sample images
0:51 - Handling
1:34 - Snap Focus
2:57 - DNG Raws
3:09 - Display
4:39 - Battery life
5:19 - Color profiles
6:04 - Image quality
6:28 - Shake reduction
6:46 - 40mm focal length
7:28 - Lens sharpness
7:51 - Bokeh
8:11 - LoCA and Flare
8:43 - Autofocus
9:17 - Should you buy one?
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Pocketability in a camera has got to be the most underrated aspect of all specs. I had a GR several years ago and it was worth the price just for the fun factor alone.
Can’t stop watching mini Chris.
That‘s what she says
@@juanquispe3494 that’s f’d
I didn't know mini Chris talking about ricoh would be this convincing haha.
I have GR II and absolutely love it. I tend to use it more than my bigger camera.
Some of the best reviews. Objective, informational and practical
Can’t wait to get mine. Pairs well with the 3 and they provide a unique experience in today’s camera experience that is not for all but really works for me.
still rocking and loving the GR2 🤘
I have the x100v and still want this. The Fuji is just big enough to be inconvenient to carry at times.
Very honest review. Congrats.
+1 on the snaperture setting in the snap focus settings. Not sure how it would work but I guess it would be good to be able to set different /optimum apertures for different distances, e.g. f8 for 1m, f5.6 for 2.5m and f4 or f2.8 for 5/10m.
Hi, I enjoyed your review! I was the first to review a TH-cam channel in Korea, and I think gr3x is a very attractive camera. Thank you for the information!
I love my GRiii, for street photography it is excellent. I enjoy city weekend breaks and I travel light so the GRiii is perfect, it's a camera for spontaneous image grabbing.
Ooh, shooting on the olympus!
With 20/1.4 may be 🤣
Cool! Thanks for this review!
looking forward to seeing you test the 1.5 TC for this
My GRIII is my favorite camera to use due to it's 'fun factor', and I do love the 40mm focal length but I doubt I'll pop for another thousand bucks to get it. Your review was spot on.
I've configured my GRII to go into manual focusing mode after clicking the "Macro" button on the joystick. The actual focusing was done with the +/- button. I think this approach fits GR's philosophy - still perfectly usable with just one hand.
I would love to see the lens tests a bit more zoomed in when comparing, the small crop doesn't really provide that much more information
Still have it, still love it ! Great Camera
Shot on Olympus E-M1 Mark III...I LOVE that part!
The biggest flex in this video is the EM1s IBIS hahaha
Another great review!
Love this review. And thrilled that Rushmore has made it to Canada :-)
Every time I think I don't need a Ricoh GR, I see a review like this that makes me feel like I should at least consider it. I can't put my finger on it, but there's something about this particular line of cameras that seems unique and appealing to me
I would definitely try one out
@M Tech While I can agree with you on the poor battery life (and I was not familiar with the dust problem, so thank you for informing me!), I am not too worried about the lackluster video quality. I honestly feel that Ricoh's seemingly sole focus on photo quality makes the GR line of cameras stand out in the market. Plus, video does eat up a good chunk of battery life
Try looking into the Pentax Q7!
= D
Appealing?
Not at this price range...
Everyone needs a Ricoh GR , well I wouldn’t be without one 😂
Great review, but Chris, the camera has 3 custom user setting modes on the dial, making it super easy to make multiple snap focus modes if that's a high-priority for you!
That's a great point, thanks
Love my GRII, will definitely consider to buy this, as I find the GRII a bit wide. I wonder why they didnt make it 50mm...
Ricoh is the only company that actually made a serious pocketable compact. Nothing compaired to what we used to have in the film days. Cameras like Contax T2 & T3, Nikon Ti etc has never returned in digital form, until Ricoh did it. They should have called it Phoenix instead...
Should see the beautiful images that come out of my CCD sensor Canon G12, amazing little compact camera 👍🏻
Great Review; excellent run thru of the positives & negatives, now with a 40mm lens. Sounds interesting, and the size looks absolutely fantastic. But I like to look thru a viewer …. But I will hold one next 58me I’m in a (well stocked) camera shop. //. Always very watchable and informative, thks Chris.
Chris is working hard these days!
6:47 This is why I love this channel. Can't stop laughing 😆
Dad jokes
Please please please please do a review of the Nikon 40mm 2.0 I'm dying to see a review on this lens
2:45 "Snapture" can be achieved by using P mode and set the program line to DOF priority
Thanks for this comment. But I can't work out how this could work in practice. I think what he means is if you have 5m set, it works at say, f3.2, at 2.5m f5.6 and f8 for 1m. It would only take a second in av, tav or manual to get a quick shot off in focus, even easier if there were some kind of hold down button to activate snap mode and use the dial to change the distance. It's a bit fiddly atm, as you have to change the snap distance AND the aperture. I don't see how P mode is going to help as sometimes, say at 5m you would prefer f2.8 or f4, you don't always want the maximum aperture and iso...
The GRIII is what it is whether you go for the 28mm or 40mm equiv lens. The optical quality of the 28mm is drop dead outstanding (reminds me of the Olympus XA 35/2.8 capsule film camera). The first generation GR after the acquisition of Pentax by Ricoh clearly benefited from Pentax's excellent lens designs and I am sure this 40mm is the same. As a GR shooter since 2013 and owner of the GR and GRIII I have consistently created fantastically sharp and colourful photos with the cameras. In some ways it reminds me a lot of the build and optical quality of a Leica. If you need an EVF, or a zoom lens, or even an interchangeable lens then either of the GRIIIs are not for you. If you want an experience which allows you to concentrate on the scene with the kind of minimal intervention by the camera normally associated with a Leica body, then for a lot, lot less money this is the camera for you - and it is possible to create professional results (which I have) from these amazing photographic tools.
Quite right. It is what it is and there's something very compelling about it even though it isn't what I personally want as a rounded tool. I can see exactly why you love it. The price is only relevant to those that aren't sure they want it or are struggling to afford it. Which probably describes most of us from time to time when purchasing stuff.
When I saw the files from my gr3 I was shocked. I have had Leica and Hasselblad cameras, but the enjoyment I get from this tiny camera I have never experienced before. You have to hand it to the Ricoh design team for they sure do know what a street photographer wants and needs. Can’t wait to get the gr3x !.
The Olympus XA. What a gem that was. That sliding cover!
My XA is pretty soft wide open, I bet the GR is miles better. I love the form factor. Seriously considering this little baby digital camera. One overlooked aspect is how little "effort" is required to take the camera out and snap a pic. With other cameras it's probably in a bag, got a lens cap on it, and you convince yourself "it wasn't worth capturing" thus missing pictures.
@@rockstardonut777 Exactly. I carry mine in my jacket pocket and it is pretty much instant on as soon as I press the power button. The sensor is drop dead fantastic. I like to call it 'maleable' because you can bring out so much in shadows and highlights in post processing raw files.
That snaperture bit was hilarious XD
Hope you guys (or DPR) manage to review it with the 75mm-e teleconverter. Been wanting something like that for ages.
06:34: I NEED that Rushmore poster!
The battery life is the trade off you get for the pocketable form factor and a LOT of energy demanding tech in that small size. I have that with my RX1Rii, but I always carry 5 batteries around charged up in my "man bag", and they are cheap to buy, easy and light to carry, quick and easy to change, so not too much of a pain in practise. As a battery approaches the "red line", I promote a charged battery to my jacket/ jeans pocket ready to deploy as fast as possible. I actually really fancy a GR3, but the wider one. Not yet pulled the trigger mind!
Hi Chris. Regarding your 'snaperture' comments, have you experimented with the new DOF priority setting? I believe this only works in P mode however.
The GR is a superb, affordable street camera but I prefer the Q, for the ease of use, full frame and viewfinder. 28 versus 40? Each to their own, but with full frame 28 you can crop or be bold and move closer.
Very well made. That Olympus ok camera you shot the video on is pretty decent. But well it's Jordan's magic so that will do it for almost any camera.
Nice the Olympus OM-D E-M1 m3 for principle photography.
You could always just get a GRII if you want amazing battery life. Easily lasts a full day and night of shooting. Must be the stabilisation that drains the battery on the GRIII. Definitely want that 40mm lens though!
Still think the original 28mm lens suits the GR series more as a street photography camera. I also think a tilt screen would definitely help with the hip shooting!
Agreed
I got the X and kinda wish I got the 28mm but when I shoot people I definitely am glad I got the 40mm. Definitely a toss up between the 2 but the 28 is definitely more versatile
I shot thousands of rolls with M series Leicas and they didn't even have a screen. Winogrand did it all with a flick of his wrist. We should all aspire to be as swift.
sehr schöner Report !
I've been watching you guys for over 10 years, now I just click on the video, press like, add to a list and leave. Then I'll watch it someday while doing dishes and thinking about all the cameras I wish I had but can't afford. 😅
Now they've I've watched i have this to compliment: the Ricoh is everything i wish Sony would do with their RX100 line. Sony, please give us a digital Contax T3!
Ability to set a minimum shutter speed along with the snaperture could be handy as well!
great review
Best street point and shoot available hands down
Great info, great critique plus some amusing (small) barbs with his Cam/Dir; all in good fun. By the end I knew the good and bad points of the camera; how compact and desirable it can be, but no updating of the viewing screen, (which seems very cheap of them, esply as no EVF). But I know enuf to decide if I mite want one and how it compares with the Fuiji X100v, which I guess is it’s main competitor. / Thkz.
The Fuji falls about in the middle, focal length wise, and is a bit larger and more expensive. Comes down to if you want something completely pocketable, or if you want the hybrid viewfinder or not, imo. They both seem like great cameras.
@@ziginox Have held the Fuiji x100v and seems just a bit heavy to have with me all the time …. But poss/ probly a bit/much better camera …. but if u don’t have it with you …). Thanks.
Idk what but something about videos shot on olympus seems really satisfying and full of life, just like fuji….
Olympus understands colour science, I suppose. You can get a really good SOOC image if you set it up right. I understand that the OM-Log sucks though.
40mm and monochrome bring out whole different Chris. Just like the F4 and the GM5. Chris this is your camera.
I had the detachable evf for my gx1 (shown in example) and I ended up selling it. Hardly used it because I wanted the camera to remain small
zastanawiam się nad zakupem Ricoh GR IIIx, Sony RX 100VII czy może Canon G1X mark III ?? Który z tych egzemplarzy będzie spisywał się lepiej??
I think the whole thing with the display/EVF is that framing from the hip is a lot easier with a wide lens, the longer lens means you will miss an EVF/decent screen even more. Plus you don't want to turn it off to save battery.
I’m gladthat you pointed out that snap focus is a little harder due to it’s 40mm lens. I didn’t think of that, and I don’t think I saw anyone pointing it out.
I own a GR III and I love it just the way it is. The only complain I have is that I trusted the sensor cleaner and as a snap shooter, I kept it in my pocket, but now I have a few visible dust spot on the sensor. I’m not a trigger happy shooter unless I shoot sports, so my battery last me all day for the most part.
Thanks for the review.
Dust is a prominent issue in Gr’s I use a filter in front of my gr II whenever i’m in a dusty windy situation just to be safe
I started putting lens cap from JJC on. Luckily the most recognizable dust is on the edge that if I use 35mm crop, it will be cut out.
@@masaoseki7687 I just bought the gr iii x, (it should arrive in a few days) maybe I wait before I use this camera until I have a "Ricoh Lens Adapter GA-2 ", and a uv filter. sadly I don`t see a cheaper (metal) jjc version of this now.
@@elinavance3476 I saw on one review video in Japanese that when you put GA-2, it will crop to to 50mm equivalent. Make sure you put tape on the connector.
@@masaoseki7687 I think I need to read more about the adapter, are you sure about the crop? I know 1 street photographer ( I forgot his name sadly) who always uses that adapter for adittional grip and dust protection. I think you are wrong.- no hate.
edit: it`s the youtube channel "DozierGraphic".
Been considering picking one up, but I'm going to wait until the battery life has been improved.
As I see it the only thing this camera has going for it is the size so it fits in a pocket. I find this very appealing, however I get the impression you can’t take it out in the rain or dusty places ( including pockets), you cant see the screen in bright sun light and it won’t focus all that well at night? It sound like a huge compromise with a hi price tag.
you can adjust the aperture in snap focus mode by adjusting the dof
I’m glad these cameras exist for those who want them, but I’m certainly not the target market. I am not a back screen shooter at all and if I am ever using the screen, it’s to take waist level photos…which this can’t even do. LOL
I had a GRII, missed the EVF and was hoping for a hot shoe mount too. I also didn’t like the 28mm eq. lens… so that 35mm eq. one is tempting because I really liked this camera. I took it with me more often than my x100 that I like a lot.
Thanks for the video
Great camera. Directly salivating flow from the updated model. Too bad it's very expensive.
Good review. I have the GR II and III. I'll wait for the IV. I like the 40mm equiv. focal length but not on a fixed-lens camera. You can crop in, you can't crop out. I'd like to see a slighty bigger GR IV that offers weather-sealing, a tilt-up screen for waist-level shooting, and maybe an attachable EVF or a pop-up OVF. I can live with the battery life.
I love 40mm. I am the audience for this camera. Looking at pricing though (in Australia at least), there’s only $50 between the GRIII & the X100V. Holy cow.
You pay for the small size. Can you slide the X100V into the pockets of your jeans?
@@weisserth Ok. There’s a premium for size. But where is the discount for all the features of the X100V that the GR is missing? The smaller size is not worth $500.
I had a GRII in the past and loved the form factor, the ergonomics and the image quality. The focal length was just not for me. I also had some issues with dust. I had to send the camera to a repair center for a sensor cleaning....an expensive pain in the neck for a camera that wasn't cheap...I've heard that the GRIII didn't totally solve that problem. Sure, this 40mm is really...I mean REALLY...tempting. But at 1000€, durability, build quality and dust protection are a big concern. I think I'll pass.
Aha. This is what I have been wishing for, a companion for my GR2. Ideally it should have had a 75mm equivalent but this gets me close enough :-)
I would prefer an EVF. Not sure about this Ricoh, but most LCD screens are difficult to see in bright sunlight.
I’m just happy to be involved...
plus vote for the Snaperture !
Will this camera focus down to 1:2? Is the lens somewhat flat field in macro? I know it’s not a repo copy lens but wanted to use it to quickly digitize old 120 negs for use online and I don’t have time to scan anymore.
I was looking into the gr3 couple years ago. Decided to go with Fuji cause I like the more ”manual look”. I mean all adjustments have their own button and I don't need to scroll menus. And I chose xt-20 over the x100f so that I could change the body and keep the lenses when that time comes. I use it with the 27mm lens. So this review peaked my interest but there was less about the lens I expected. Great review but I'll stick to Fuji.
Did the same and just ordered the XT-5
Having one of these on loan right now, I wish there were more custom button assignment options and the digital level was bigger, like on Fuji or Panasonic. Otherwise, surprisingly great in the hand for how tiny it is!
It is such a shame Nikon didn't bring out a modern Coolpix A. I believe with where they are now they could bring out a great little camera based on the styling of the L35AF but GR sized. I would want a viewfinder even if that be a little hotshoe on the left hand side you could slide an external viewfinder.
So you have the Olympus 20mm/1.4 testing now? 😱
gr iii + gw4 + gr iiix + gt 2 is a pretty complete and compact travel kit. 21mm, 28mm, 40mm, and 75mm which fits in a relatively small bag.
But at that point, why not just buy a ILC and 4 lenses?
Or just grab a sony zv-1 or rx100? All in one PLUS better video
Will it be a better choose to choose the iiiX for portraits?
Glad I still have my Fuji X70. If they'd release an updated version of that...
Hi Chris and Jordan, do you think it will be a good family camera for taking pictures for kids? (Heard that autofocus is not impressive but would like to know your thoughts about its ability to shoot portraits/family photos instead of street photography/landscape)
Honestly, probably not. As you mentioned the AF isn't great overall, and in low light really struggles. However if you were mostly doing conventional posed family shots it would be fine. Also if you want to capture more of the feeling of the moment, the energy, and not necessarily always pin point in focus kind of stuff it would be great. It's also very easy to always have on you which is half the battle. You know what? Maybe it would be fun for family portraits.
@@niccollsvideo thanks!
Any dust invading the lens issue? I loved my earlier model!
I get this camera. It's a bit of a hard sell to the missus, what with my other gear and the quite capable phones, but I'm buying it.
Several reasons:
-super easy to always carry - my usual camera feels like a big hassle, there's always a bunch of decisions to be made, unless I have something very specific I want to capture, what of the gear comes with, the small bag or the large bag, and I can't leave anything in the car, for obvious reasons. Sports game?
-simplicity of use - you have one focal length, you don't have to decide what you want, you know the angle, use your feet, you know what you are able to shoot and so when you recognize a good shot, you take it
-no swivel might actually be good - one less thing to be able to adjust, again, you know the limitations and when you accept them, it's an advantage
-it was designed so that the photographer focuses on the subject, not on the buttons and swivels and rings and switches and everything else on the gear
-minimal, if any, post processing
-40mm might be perfect focal length if you can only have one
Battery life and battery indicators are inconvenient, but that just means you must have at least one more battery with you at all times, preferably 4 in total.
"They don't have the money"
That hurt even though I don't have a Ricoh, don't know how actual owners would feel 😂
The owners I know don't tend to care about juvenile humour like that.
Why should it bother any owner? He didn't imply that any potential owner might not have the money. It's a fact of life that some people and companies have more money than others. Heck, some of the best luxury brands make the biggest losses [thinking Aston Martin and Jaguar LandRover off the top of my head]
Chill guys, it wasn't a literal question. A little bit silly humor is the tone of this channel and the comment section.
It is pretty accurate, considering the time it took to stop the GRs being dust magnets. I don't think it was due to ill will, just lack of funds. I love my GR, but a bigger battery would be lovely,! If they could sell it at a more friendly price I'd be very interested!
What about macro capabilities? Has it improved or stayed on same level?
Hi Chris, your shoulder bag looks very fancy. Which manufactorer is it from?
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In my streetphoto-kit I have Ricoh GR III (28mm), Fuji X100V and Sony RX1RII, despite the weaknesses that Chris pointed, The Ricoh GRIII is still the best knife in my shelf, according to streetphotography. I'm ending up choosing this camera in my pocket 95% of the time, because of size, weight and ease of use, when I'm shooting on streets.
40mm is not my favourite, så I still prefer my incredible RX1RII with 35mm f2 Zeiss lens, if I need longer focal length
How does the RX1RII stand today? I'm thinking about buying one of the cameras in your kit for street photography but still struggling to make a choice. Thanks :)
@@yimingwu2538 RX1RII is still my favourite, if I’d choose only one camera. It’s 42 mp backlighted sensor in my opinion still one of the best available in the market. I would not hesitate buying one. 😊
@@UfukSahinDenmark Thanks again, the RX1 amazed me when I first saw it in-store, the only concerns I have with it are the AF ability in darker environments and the lack of stabilization. Dunno if they are a problem for you.
I´m thinking about getting the RX1RII or the IIIx to complete my GRII and Leica M9 (50mm) too. I have narrowed it down to quality vs. pocketability. Still hesitant...
If you added all of the items Chris complains about (evf, flip out screen, bigger battery, etc) the camera would become heavier, bigger and more expensive. Thank goodness Ricoh doesn't listen to youtube reviewers. Choose the right tool for the job. The griiix is perfect for a unique niche of shooters
Great review Chris, it's a lovely little camera, just the battery would put me off. I think Richo/pentax could of addressed this before bringing out a new camera, even if a little bit bigger, maybe their next camera might address this issue or produce a better battery that fits the gr3 range. But at the moment I'd rather pay a bit more and get the fujifilm x100v or even the sony a7c for full frame and double the battery
Jordan is genius starting from 6.48
The Panasonic lx100 mark 1 or 2 is a great alternative. I have the Leica version and it’s a great little camera making it difficult to decide if I use it or my GR ii for street photography.
Have you shot with the GRiii or GRiiix before? I ask becuase I also have the Leica D'lux 7 , and I do love it. But I've had it for quite a while and I find that I dont bring it out enough. Im in a situation, where if the camera isnt pocketable, then I tend to bring my full frame or analog kit instead. And when I want a pocketable camera, im shit out of luck and use the smartphone. My wants are the most pocketable camera possible but with strong image quality. So all the 'digicams' that are popular wouldnt work for me, and cameras like the fuji x100v or even my d'lux 7 are "too big" .... I have watched boatloads of videos and read reviews on the GRiii & GRiiix, but cannot seem to decide if the larger sensor and smaller size of the GRiii are "enough" of an improvement to sell the Leica. Let me know if you have any thoughts or feedback. I couldnt help but ask because you have the exact same camera I am thinking to sell to cover the cost of the GR.
@@justinperna9966 I have not. I also have a Samsung nx500 which has 28 megapixels and it’s an interchangeable lens camera. I mainly use it with the 30mm lens. It’s a lot of fun to use and takes great photos. I also like small cameras but I have small camera bags for each including the Ricoh so that I can carry extra batteries and a lens cleaning cloth. I will not sell my Ricoh because it will still be a great camera for street photography in the future. It has a useful pop up flash whereas the GRiii/x doesn’t and the battery life is also better. If you need 24 megapixels for larger prints or you like to crop then go for the GRiii/x. I am quite happy with the GRii.
I would LOVE to have this camera as a fun and portable relaxed supplement to my Leica M10 - but I am not sure, I would be able to live with the low battery life and the lack of a viewfinder.......... not at that pricepoint ! Which is a shame, because I think they finally nailed the focal length for a do-it-all street/leisure/travel camera !
Cost very reasonable vs. Leica
I went out and traded in my beloved XF10 whenever I heard about it... I had been looking at the GRIII back when the XF10 was launched but the at half the price, for a little spec difference, I went for the XF10.
Yes, it didn't have the IBIS that the GR had but it did most of what I needed at a fraction of the cost... Both cameras are 28mm equivalent... A bit too wide for me but I did get used to shooting 28.
But now, along comes a lens that would suit my needs well, the 40mm which is nearer my X100V’s lens, and nearer my true choice of lens... 50mm.
So I have a GRIIIx on pre-order 🤩... And the Fuji is gone 😢
PS. Hasn't the GRIIIx got a newer image processor than the older GR? I'm sure I read it has...
So do you like the gr more than the fuji ?
Can you tell me please the brand of your crossbody bag? Thank you for the great review. Now I am subscribed to your channel 😊
Hi, I need some advice for a "definitive" family camera that brings out images with a certain three-dimensionality focused more on portraits of my fast-moving children. I currently have a Nikon z50 16-50 and 50-250 (I am only displeased with the small limited af area in Af-c and the lack of a 70-300 for football matches) and sometimes it hurts me to take my bag with me in contexts to go out with my family and to the sea. I need a compact camera that can be attached to a belt loop or that fits into a large pocket! I am undecided between the gr III x or fujifilm x100v or leica d-lux 7,pen-f, gx9 I am looking for the most creative and fun camera that will entice me to take it with me regardless, thanks.
Not as 'fun' and creative, but a Sony RX100 would probably work well. Great autofocus, good focal range, and it's roughly the same size as the GR. Wouldn't be as good for low light, of course, but it would be a bit more versatile.
Well did they fix the dust in sensor ? After 3 months of use putting the gr in my pocket, dust will go in your sensor
Great camera for 2011!
That burn at 2:44 🤣 Ricoh gonna stop sending you GR4 next. By the way you didn’t test AF in dark indoor situations?
I would love to have seen a 24mm lens equiv' ...
Would be a perfect lil' mountain companion...
Hey Chris, wouldn't 'snaperture' setting be manual exposure with auto ISO?? If so, I'll share the royalties on your new photo word...
Almost, but you'd still have to quickly change the aperture before taking the photo. I want a preset aperture so when I push the shutter down quickly, the camera focuses at its snap distance AND uses the aperture I chose for more DOF.
ISO minimum SS in quick menu, simple software update, please Ricoh!
Going to wait to buy a 40mm Ricoh when they come out with that feature and a pop up EVF or VF, otherwise I’m sticking to my GR III.
4:00 OMG! You missed Forrest Gump behind you walking to tell histories LOL.
I tried the Fuji but Ricoh way more fun