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So really creating a chainsword is only an engineering problem and not a break the laws of physics problem? Enginseers, get to it! The Emperor demands it!
yah it's just engineering but its some hella engineering get the motor down to a pound 3 inches in diameter and about 15 horse then we might have something usable also smacking a chainsaw into something is a really bad idea it will throw you all over the place and probably break the blade turning it into a bladed metal wip coming at you're face
@Nicky, again, tricky but not impossible, even with modern tech...just not that useful, since when are you going to get into melee with a tank outside of the Grim Darkness of the 41st millennium? If the batteries/fuel tank & internal combustion engine (the heaviest bits of a chainsaw) were moved to an external backpack or belt mount, you could probably fit a much lighter electric motor into the handle, with the main weight source then being gearing it to the desired power. If a single constant ratio is desired, a planetary gearbox is pretty light and reliable, but if you want to be able to throttle the speed vs power at will (with a thumb-operated slider switch?) there are some pretty light CVTs...they just have a lot of reliability issues and probably wear out too quickly for sustained combat use. Martial arts for such a weapon would need to emphasize protecting the cord, however, so it would be a band-aid solution until lighter batteries can be made. The angular momentum issues several commenters have mentioned could be mitigated by having a second chain in counter-rotation (if you don’t want to deal with the problems associated with cutting in either specific direction) or an internal gyroscope-like counterweight in the hilt (if you want the advantages of the single direction cutting, especially if reversible). Or have martial arts with movements that mimic the natural procession of the chainsword’s gyroscopic forces to deliver harder-to-block (but also easier to predict) blows.
I think it’s safe to say the chainsword is designed to operate at such a speed and force that all it does is tear through. Plus, really, a Space Marine can hold something in place and manipulate the blade through the enemy pretty easily I’d say.
*Tries to parry chainsword* Now my weapon is in the next county, my whole hand is numb, and a very large gentleman is looking at me with purge filled eyes.
@@hentiluvr1579I keep forgetting the space commies exist. But nay I am but a humble gaurdsman. The Black Templar heard me say something less than complimentary to the comissar and well.... now I'm just a warp voice in your head.
The way you describe it made it sound like overkill, until one considers that Space Marines had to fight hulking space orcs, giant space bugs, and giant inter-dimensional demons. Having the absurd excess of mauling capabilities would be a necessity in the battlefields of 40k.
Orks can survive being decapitated if their head gets stitched onto a new body quickly enough, so a chainsword makes sense to completely mangle the poor sucker caught in it's path to prevent such a happenstance.
It was primarily for "shock and awe" to scare resistant planets into joining the imperium. Watching your friend get turned into a bloody pile of mangled flesh in one strike would be terrifying and enough to break the resistant humans will to fight. It isnt as useful against the xenos hordes, tyranids would be spraying acidic blood everywhere, demons wouldn't be phased by it one bit, orks can literally just glue the two halves back together
@@robertpistole7815 A) there are far more terror-inspiring weapons, B) when you fight tyranids in close range, you're either wearing power armor that protects against acid blood, or you're screwed anyway, C) demons are very uncommon enemy, then again, they're resistant to most of weapons, D) provided ork survives the encounter and recovers lost parts.
W40K developer 1: "You know what would be cool? If they used CHAINSAWS as swords!" W40K developer 2: "Yeah! ...But is it realistic?" W40K developer 1: "It's cool! But of course it's not realistic! Who cares about that?" Shad: "I care! And actually..."
@Cristian Serban bolter rounds are not micro-missiles. A missile is capable of self guidance. They're rocket propelled rounds, and they do plenty of damage, however...you don't need to reload a chainsword...
@@kevlarburrito6693 you do in a way you need to Reload them. you need to refuel (most) of them after a period of time that is determanded by how forten you use it(only exeption is some mastercrafted chainswords)
Well they theoretically can push or pull if it has a mechanism to pick the direction. Chainswords aren't the most common weapons in the Imperium, even the cheap gas (prometheum) powered ones so it would be an expensive to buy and fairly rare weapon. There's a reason why the Chainsword is the Melee staple that accompanies the Bolter in the hands of Space Marines and Battle Sisters as basic weapons and anything akin to those orgs use as standard would be vanishingly rare.
It gets mentioned in the Ciphas Cain novels as well, going down to the trick of chain weapon duels being knowing when to reverse the rotation to throw your enemy off balance.
shad: "wheres all the removed material going? you would absolutely splattered" me: are you trying to convince me theres not enough blood and guts in 40k?
Yes, now I can imagine an Astartes fighting style unique to the chainsword or anyother Chain weapon, reversing the blades direction to punsh an enemy then using its hand guard smack him in the face, increasing the power to pull enemies to the ground to either step on them or shot or stab them ect. They can even use the back of the "blade" as a blunt weapon.
Hi Shad! Kerry from Man at Arms here. As one of the few people on earth with a functional chainsword (sitting right here in the room with me), I can tell you that one of the main problems with the sword as it is most often shown is the blade guard. The blade must have curf (width of cut) beyond the guard or it cant cut any deeper then the blade is exposed. This is a major issue! Power armour or great strength can as you stated fix issues of how cumbersome it might be but the physical issue of that guard cant be over come without major changes to the way these swords are normally shown. In our video you will notice that the guard is removed when we are cutting hard objects.
"Chainsword rotating clockwise would pull in the enemy, and pull them on to you." That's 40k for you. The placebo effect has a tangible effect on reality.
Also, the Orks believe chainswords work because they love *blam* foightin' humiez wif big gnazhin choppy bitz zo derefore chainzwordz wurk cuz Orkz say dey do. Zimple as, ya git.
The God Emperor of Mankind- A husk, that requires mass sacrifice of psychers daily. Who created the Imperium and removed any other form of worship. Honestly- sounds like a chaos god to me. We are all enslaved.
In the Caiphas Cain novels it actually goes through the main character running through practice drills for blocks, strikes, parries and riposts, and then using them in combat. The main character is not a Space Marine, but he is described as extremely athletic and fit. There is a scene where he is shown fighting an Ork Warboss, who is immensely stronger than him, has much greater reach, and is wearing power armor to boot, and armed with an even bigger chain weapon, where our hero is wearing a uniform. The first part of the fight has him dodging and parrying and thinking "Oh shit I'm going to die!" Then, after he's gotten a measure of his oponent he feigns running out of stamina. The warboss, being an orc, moves in for the kill, pressing their intersecting swords closer & closer, & leaning in to the hero, who he towers over. Whereupon, the protagonist shoves the pistol in his off hand through the Ork's vision slit, and into it's eye, and discharges it on full auto. I think it's a very good depiction of what that kind of combat would actually be like.
I also recall a moment in one of the 40k novels I have where the chainsword is mentioned to have a reverse-motion that can help clean out the weapon if something jams into it and to basically 'fling crap' out of the way.
Imagine he does all that before implanting blessed cogitators into his mind. He has the potential to be an archmagos. I think its worth breaking out the best recruitment tools: offer him the sacred service of a microwave !
Heh, show this to the Mechanicus, think they would see it as pretty heretical. Now excuse me, i habe to figure out how to get my heretics out of their Arbites isolation cells...
About bloody time someone recognized Me. Huh? What do you mean... i know there's more than one Emperor, but which one? Him? oh, good friends with him. Mate, i gave him me finger as a sign of friendship, he even offered to take it out for me, which was mighty nice of him.
Not to mention that the guys wielding the chainswords also have guns that are basically rocket propelled grenade launchers. As the weapon in the other hand while attacking with the chainsword...
In fairness, the chainsword is meant to scare the shit out of the Marine's adversaries as well. Its also meant to be extremely brutal to basically punish someone that fought against the Imperium.
i actually have a chain spear, its great. it attaches to my weed whacker engine and also comes in really handy for pruning my trees. best part is i got it at the hardware store for $50.
@Lord Admiral Spire Actually, there are chainswords that are better than power swords. For example Leman Russ personal chainsword. Which has a implemented power field and is made of the teeth of some beast that can cut anything with its teeth (some kind of leviathan). There are also just upgraded chain swords that have additional power fields. I believe those are mostly for space marines.
@Lord Admiral Spire Well, yes. There are power chain swords. Which are mostly used by the Vlka Fenryka (Space Wolves). Leman Russ Sword is an artifact weapon that is even superior :D.
The thing is, even if the Chainsword wasn't as effective as a sword Space Marines would probably still use it purely for intimidation. The Imperium of Man has many examples of this. I mean for crying out loud the giant Titan mechs and their battleships are essentially moving cathedrals with planet-killing weapons strapped to them.
Who wouldnt surrender if the sun stops shining because of the giganic chainsaw of a imperial titan? But it is not dark because of the blue light of his charging plasmagun.
Intimidate what, Orks? They'll run even faster to you. Chaos marines? They don't give a fuck. Eldar? Maybe. Tau? They don't do melee so their fucked the moment they hear the chain sword. Everyday heretic/rebel? Yeah shitting bricks.
@@theslayerssanctum5534 Your pistol is meaningless for the Krieg, your entire job is to try and prevent an endless charge, and if you try and hold them back for too long the guardsmen all kill you anyway for being a coward. If you aren't in the first rank? The nearest Krieg kills you anyway for being a coward.
Probably added by the editor for lols. Expecting people to ask in the comments, then they can read it and be like "haha, how would they know the pornhub intro?". Also there is actually more on porhub than porn, I've found letsplays, animated kids shows and beutiful harp music there, it's great!
I feel it's important to point out that with a lot of TH-cam videos talking about martial applications of 40k technology (and I think you nail and understand that in the context of the universe these things actually do make more sense), they somewhat miss that a lot of the technology (if not all) that's used in the year 40k is actually developed in around 25k (which was pretty much the height of human technology achievements, it was god like technology and then all lost after the fall) and just rediscovered later in the year 30-40k. A lot of this technology wasn't originally actually meant to be used the way that it's used, Terminator armour for example was simply just a very rugged space suit in 25k but when rediscovered in 30k, because of the nature of the Imperium (and to be fair the nature of the galaxy that the Imperium has to survive in) it was repurposed into powered battle armour that's now worshiped, cherished and looked after the way we'd look after the Sistine Chapel). So when it comes to Chainswords it might look a little unwieldy but that's probably because it was originally used to be attached to a 20-25k robots arm to be used as a simple cutting tool, the Imperium just see it and think "ooooh think of what we could use that for!"
The teeth on the chain sword could also just be going back and forth in an actual sawing motion, effectively cancelling out any effect of Newton's Third law on its own.
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 I was talking specifically about Disney's Star Wars. And you seem to misunderstand what I meant. Fiction can divert from rules of reality in the laws of its own setting. Orks having collective mind-warping psychic field is a good example. However, any work of fiction should stay true to its previously established rules. Ass-pulls are never a good thing. It's not great when already very Mary Sue-ish character turns out to be descendant of saga's main villain, or when some smartass Mechanicum turns out to have hundreds of thousands NEW BETTER supersoldiers in stasis chambers all over the Galaxy, and no one in ten thousand years had any idea they existed.
Cept they are hitting monsters who would mostly laugh that off. Like a carnifex, who would throw that truck across the town Marine strength helps make any weapon plausible, cept that they are made to fight things generally bigger and scarier than even them
@@barrylyndon5552 would laugh it off if it wer not for ceramite armor and blades that are one molecule thick or powered with a force field that can cut through almost anything or amplify the power of such blow a thousand fold. Space marines are badass in my opinion
@@barrylyndon5552 ok the creatures would not be harmed very much or at all but that's why they have devistator and terminator squads or in such scenarios dreadnought or heavy vehicles such as land raiders and other tanks.
@@franksworld9922 I collect Custodes so marines are like our pets. But yeah, we pat them on the head and tell them theyre are doing a pretty good job. Marines are rather strong, but they are outclasses in the galaxy by the sheer death out there. Their best weapons are skill and tactics, their weapons and physical strength is only above average and their numbers are tiny. But by working together and having godly plot armor they often win
The thumbnail is wrong shad wouldn't be a grey knight he would be an emperor's fist because he would spend his time fortifying imperial MATICULATIOOOOONNNNNSSSSS
Just because the armor is grey/silver doesn't automatically make them a grey knight. Sorry for sounding so serious but as someone who has an independent chapter design and having to explain that everytime really sets me off.
Was looking for this comment. At least in one of the Gaunt's Ghosts books, knowing when to reverse your spin direction (such as in a bind) is an integral part of dueling with chainswords.
Unarmored chainsword users in-universe are always depicted as insane suicidal maniacs, though, even for 40k standards. That also includes Redemption cultists who have a tendency of charging in with long flowing robes and gigantic two handed chainswords.
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Leave that man alone, it's hard enough nowadays to raise a family when they aren't buried in the same grave anymore due to high divorce numbers.. For all my colleagues who are also facing severe persecution, to bypass such hypocritical laws instead of raise dead, you can use animate object.
During the Horus Heresy space marines found the chainswords weren't very effective against other marines. New fighting techniques had to be developed to make them more useful
By and large they aren't that good but way easier to produce than power swords. Faster as well since I believe game mechanic wise Power swords always went last in the attack phase if I remember right.
This, much this. The Chainsword is specifically an anti-personnel weapon, used for killing fleshy, lightly armored things like Tyranid gaunts, Ork boyz, traitorous guardsmen, Eldar aspect warriors, etc etc. And on top of that, the roaring and screaming of the chainblade alone sends a message to the enemy in a universe where emotions can affect the world (Warp stuff and all that) Why not use more power weapons? Well, power weapons are **very** hard to craft, IIRC they're also a lost technology. And actually, factions like the Eldar that still have the tech *do* use power swords en-masse; only the Striking Scorpion aspect warriors use chainswords. Why not use bladed weapons with the same technologies and materials used in the chainsword? Well, by and large the things that you'll be hitting with it are highly resistant to simple cuts, I.E. Orks. Chainbladed weapons will apply *more* force outside of the wielder's swing: Even if the initial strike dosen't penetrate, the blades will start ripping at the armor, then the flesh underneath. This is especially important for the Adeptus Astartes, who suffer from impaired flexibility and maneuverability due to their hulking physique and power armor. So, if you can't arm your entire arm with power weapons and simple bladed swords are insufficient, you make chainswords.
@@SoftisNelaris standard power armor isn't very restrictive to movement. It been described as acting as a second skin. The exceptions being Mk3 power armor, imdomitus and Cataphractii terminators plate. Shad has no idea of the thirst of Warhammer fans for good content.
Hmm. I wonder how would a chainsaw not be effective against armor made out of pure metal. I mean seriously, if you are cutting wood with a chainsaw and acidentaly hit a random little rusty nail, your chainsaw needs a new chain. Why would one use that in combat against buff guys in thick plated armor? But again, we are talking about 40k, a place where there still is melee combat even though guns exist.
pretty handy on cacodemons, especially. their pain tolerance is low enough to get stunlocked by it, they're tanky enough to be worth the trouble, and their large hitbox block shots from enemies behind them, protecting you while you rip them to shreds.
And what do you shout when it breaks and you realise you should have bought a Stihl? I bet most people never even considered that chainsaws and brushcutters have their own ridiculous PlayStation-Xbox rivalry.
Plaid PVCPipe You are suspiciously friendly..i hereby by order you to present yourself to your nearest Ordo Hereticus Base of Operations, to be tested for slaaneshi corruption.
As far as I understand, the "chain"part of 40k weapons are indeed different, some rotate towards the user, others away from him, and some consist of different saws moving in opposite dirrections form one another, thus making the weapon even deadlier and more efficient in "sawing"/removing material from the cut.
Retired....what kind of heresy is this?! In 41st millenia there is only war and it wont stop even when milkyway galaxy is under rightful rule of the terra. If you havent noticed there is other galaxies around and some twats bioengineered nids into existence and send them to milkyway... Emperor wants to have wee bit of a chat whit these twats, hence there is no retirement for space marines..
Still waiting around for someone to do a video analyzing lightning claws. Out of all the 'weird' weapons in 40K, I feel they always get overlooked, and I think they're more plausible than people might think.
Okay, but is that Ork who has pinned down an Imperial Guard regiment with two hours of continuous fire when all he has in his magazine is a handful of pebbles and a scrap of leather with a crudely drawn ∞ on it realistic?
@split haven they kind of can, the Orks belief can be turned against them, if they BELIEVE a man is an immortal god who can fire deathlasers from his eyes then...he BECOMES immortal and can fire deathlasers from his eyes. there's 1 anecdote from the lore I've heard of a group of guardsmen pinned down by a huge force of orks and they ran out of ammo. As the Orks were getting close a Guardsmen commander/Sergeant leaned over the defences on the lil hill and yelled ''BANG BANG, YOU'RE DEAD'' while pointing his empty gun at an Ork and the Ork's head exploded. Suddenly all the guardsmen started pointing empty guns at them yelling BANG BANG and throwing rocks while yelling ''THROWING A GRENADE AT THEM'' and the rock blows up like an actual grenade. So with a lil bit of trickery they could turn it on them ^^
Something I love about warhammer is that they have in lore addressed how, when being used by normal people, it is best to just use it as a very ornate club. I think because space marines are so strong it has the same idea, in that you just need to thwack someone with it to kill them, but the chainsaw part is just so that if an enemy doesn't die they are not going to be getting back up or attacking you after a hit.
Using a chainsaw in combat properly: Lop your hand off at the wrist, ideally because it went bad Attach chainsaw GROOVY note most effective against demon possessed zombies... aka deadites
@@Ally5141 ironically, studies show that blue is actually the color taht goes faster. something about it being a colder cooler, so it conserves heat or something? Don't tell the orks though.
@@ichduoderer1498 I know how the orks work. The thing is, it's based on the number of them in the vicinity and their belief. Shake that belief, and break that power.
chainswords slide off armour plates in the novels, generally they aim for the flexible softer joints, the motion for attacking an opponent will most likely be a slash like a katana rather than a chopping motion like some swords which would rely on the momentum of the strike to aid the chainsword teeth to catch and dig into the material
Which is realistic. You need to get purchase on something to saw it and since chainswords have mediocre armor penetration the teeth are obviously only scratching Ceramite at best. Therefore the most efficient places to slash are soft areas and joints. Even plated joints are better since the armor plates will deflect into the joint so you can still grind down more efficiently.
In the Commissar Gaunt novels a young Gaunt duels another commissar, chainsword to chainsword, and yes, flipping the rotational direction was a real tactic.
@@deathcompanybattlebrother so you want to say, that he would be able to make an Emperor's pallace a titan and the Emperor would be able to fight once again?
BURN! MAIM! KILL!!!! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!! On a side note, khorne flakes are amazing, but I prefer mine with the freshly spilt and still hot blood of my foes
Downsides: To heavy for normies, sprays you with enemies guts AND armor, pulls you and the enemy closer together/throws the enemy away from you. The only real downside is the weight issue, but that just makes it a weapon exclusive to elite troops. Oh, and the whole armor particles ripping your legs apart if you don't wear armor thing.
@@soldraconis3899 too heavy for "normies"? Iirc Comissar Ciaphas Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!! is an expert chainsword fencer. He even trained with a Space Marine.
Another thing about chainswords is also that you hear them revving in the media. So the wielder may have some control over the chain actually running. They could disengage the blade while parrying and such. They may even be able to simply engage a gear to reverse the spin of the blade.
I used a chainsaw for years, its not the saw thats heavy, its the engine and fuel. A sci-fi powered shainsword would not be more unweildy than like a DaDao, and thats just improving the engine.
@@Kortegard0341 It does make sense though. The 'blade' is just that. a bit of slim metal with gears in it and a bladed chain. thats not entirely heavy. If you could power it with shocky electricity then theoretically you could bypass the need for solid/liquid fuel. Iirc, in lore they are battery powered.. much like most things in any scifi universe =w=
@@SonsOfLorgar That might actually work O: From there youd just need a sizeable battery to keep it running for several hours, though im not sure about the chain clogging. Surely you would have to disassemble it occasionally to clean out where it contacts. Theres also the issue that magnets have, including electromagnets, which is when they get struck hard enough, it could mess with polarity, even if for a few moments, which in theory could either bring the chain to a stop entirely, or make it sputter... which might not be ideal for something you use for striking things.
Well even in 40k, chaindaw do clog and break so maintenance is always essential. There is no such thing as a weapon that needs no maintaining, no matter what fancy scifi shit you use.
Space Marine, after spending 3 minutes chopping on an orc's neck with a sword. "Damn, this is like chopping down a tree with a knife - possible, but far too slow" Lumberjack, with chainsaw *brrrrrrrrrrrrr* "Timbeeerr" Space Marine: *Doomguy has found the chainsaw*
My father actually really badly injured himself with a chainsaw to the point that he has permanent nerve injury. He was actually in a few competitions in Australia for tree felling until then. A concept that he described to me leaps out at me here; By the time the pain had registered and that burning sensation had run up his arm, and then the amount of time it took to realize what was happening and release the trigger mechanism, he had already cut 2 inches deep into his own arm and the entire muscle of his forearm was basically just a piece of meat hanging off his arm. It also "gripped" onto the skin and flesh and became entangled with his skin and had to be torn off even after the blade had stopped moving. This is in the period of what was described to me as; "Less than a second's time". As soon as the blade touches skin, is just grips in and starts sawing, biting deeper and deeper. It doesn't just cut if you apply pressure, especially on flesh. It WANTS to dig deeper into flesh. It will grip, bite and tear and pull itself deeper into the cut. For this story in particular, he was 20m up a tree and another climber had to scale the tree with spikes and he had to stand on the guy's shoulders as they climbed back down with a lanyard because the wound was so severe that if he released pressure, it would spray blood. This is less than a second of blade contact with no downward pressure, in fact, the pressure was upward and was barely a graze. His arm was just pulled toward the cut as soon as contact was made because of the nature of skin. Another anecdotal story I heard involves clothing. Because clothing is so loose, when the blade catches clothing, it doesn't cut through for lack of resistance. Instead, it just grabs the clothing and pulls it. Whoever is wearing that clothing gets pulled in the same way. I briefly met a man who lost an arm because he was wearing a jumper (sweater) that was too loose and it got caught in the blade when he reached over to remove a small stick that had become jammed in the stabilizing spike. Because of the way his arm was being pulled, it wasn't possible to release the mechanism until it had broken his wrist and sawed half way through the bone of his arm, requiring amputation. These tools are specifically designed to tear through Australian Hardwood, some of the hardest wood on the planet. Things that don't have a pulpy structure or are specifically fibrous are damaged exponentially by these types of tools because of their tendency to "grip" materials that are soft or loose and fibrous. Even in your first real-world example, if you touched them for even a moment it wouldn't just go "ZZZT", it would immediately bite in to any clothing or flesh and they couldn't pull away without tearing the flesh and skin that's been caught in the blades off their own body in the process. In the standard reaction time of a human being, about .5 of a second, the cut could easily be an inch deep or more. A fairly average chainsaw blade travels at about 2500 surface feet per second, around 60 miles per hour or 100 kilometers per hour. Depending on the location, it would be an immediate mortal blow because your opponent would tear the wound open trying to get away from the saw and just immediately bleed out if they didn't hold the wound closed, leaving themselves totally vulnerable. It's nasty, nasty shit. I nearly got PTSD just from looking at the horror in their faces as they recounted their tales alone. This stuff is extremely dangerous and extremely damaging without even considering magic metals that defy the crystalline structure of metals being physically incapable of forming the cementite/pearlite structure needed for it's integrity by lacking sufficient molecules and physics itself because the Fairy King said "Magic". I have a qualification in metallurgy and magic metal annoys me nearly as much as studded leather armour annoys you because I understand how metal works and what makes strong and hard metals strong or hard.
Sorry to hear about those guys your dad included. Mechankcal engineering has taught me to have a very healthy amount of respect for anything with more than a hundred joules of energy... I think shad missed one important point here that you touched on. Chainswords would be brutal to morale. If you just saw your buddy ripped to shreds with a chainsaw you mite just run fkr your life training and commisar be damned. Even the issue with the swords. A battery powered chainsaw is scary light all things considered. You have to dodge it though unless you have a piece of something thick chunkey tough and hard to put between you and it. Ive used bandsaws to cut through 1 inch steel plate ... a chain saw will cut through armor eventually if u had diamond teeth .... anything behind that armor better fight like hell to get that blade off because its dead ktherwise
God level response. My only contribution was going to be that just as a sword gets stuck because of it's inability to push the material being cut out of the way, so too can a chainsaw get stuck (and they frequently do) if the bar gets pinched by the two halves of whatever you happen to be cutting as it starts losing structural integrity, because you have cut half way through it for instance. The design of the chainsword seems to overcome this to some degree due to the limited depth of penetration which precludes the bar of the sword from coming in contact with the object being cut. Between the size of the teeth on the chainsword (much greater depth of cut than real chainsaw teeth) and the evidence gleaned from your testimony, perhaps it would be a more effective weapon than first appearances or even the Man at Arms model would suggest, even without magic metal?
5:05. Actually, not. The chainsword will dig its way through your opponent, effectively preventing it from breaking distance or contact with the cutting edge. 12:30 That's why he (Everyone knows that this mechanism has a soul or machine spirit, as this phenomenon is called by Adeptus Mechanicus.) has such a large developed guard.
So we are questioning the perfection of the glorious chainsword, gifted to you mere mortals by the Omnissiah without any reverence to the machine spirit? TECHNO-HERESY!!!
The chainsword is not perfect. How could it be? It is a physical object. The Omnissiah's light illuminates all things, and by it we see the many glories of the universe, but only by their shadows do we see them--crude, imperfect things, which we strive to replicate by devising new tools to watch the shadows, and perhaps to catch a glimpse of the shapes that cast them. How could the chainsword be perfect, when the hands that craft it are human? Never forget: the truth of the quest for knowledge is that it _is_ a quest. Learn to see the quest in everything--in every step you take, in every grain of sand in the air, in every flickering shadow on the wall. _That_ is how you will come to recognize the Omnissiah. In the myriad souls of the world, all bound together, as cogs in a grand, impossible machine. (Don't mind me; go about your business, citizen.)
Power weapons are too expensive(and often time consuming) for mass production, Force weapons are psykers only, and runic weapons are force weapons those Fenrisian furries pretend aren't force weapons
Don’t worry my Skitarii bruva, Shad mentions that it becomes *VERY* effective using technology modern humans do not have today and only in the 41st millennium. Some of this technology includes proper veneration of the machine spirit and that simply goes without saying.
Big thanks to George Norman Lippert for the new intro animation! There’s more to come in that department so keep your eyes peeled ^_^
Hope you all like the new camera too, I know I do. And a bid thanks to Oz my editor for all the juicy Warhammer memes in this video.
Hmm, I feel like I’m forgetting something monumentally awesome. . . nah, must have been nothing.
I personally love the new intro.
Love it..and ya forgot...DRAGONS!!
Great stuff :D
Off topic but I think you might be interested: unauthorizedmedievalhistory.blogspot.com/2019/06/defending-middle-ages-weve-been-doing.html
An online medieval history course for the layperson.
Lancer next please
So really creating a chainsword is only an engineering problem and not a break the laws of physics problem? Enginseers, get to it! The Emperor demands it!
WHERE ARE THE TOASTERS IT PROMISED US?!
@@galahad3195 BY THE OMNISSIAH!
yah it's just engineering but its some hella engineering get the motor down to a pound 3 inches in diameter and about 15 horse then we might have something usable also smacking a chainsaw into something is a really bad idea it will throw you all over the place and probably break the blade turning it into a bladed metal wip coming at you're face
@Zach cash I like your attitude.
@Nicky, again, tricky but not impossible, even with modern tech...just not that useful, since when are you going to get into melee with a tank outside of the Grim Darkness of the 41st millennium?
If the batteries/fuel tank & internal combustion engine (the heaviest bits of a chainsaw) were moved to an external backpack or belt mount, you could probably fit a much lighter electric motor into the handle, with the main weight source then being gearing it to the desired power. If a single constant ratio is desired, a planetary gearbox is pretty light and reliable, but if you want to be able to throttle the speed vs power at will (with a thumb-operated slider switch?) there are some pretty light CVTs...they just have a lot of reliability issues and probably wear out too quickly for sustained combat use. Martial arts for such a weapon would need to emphasize protecting the cord, however, so it would be a band-aid solution until lighter batteries can be made.
The angular momentum issues several commenters have mentioned could be mitigated by having a second chain in counter-rotation (if you don’t want to deal with the problems associated with cutting in either specific direction) or an internal gyroscope-like counterweight in the hilt (if you want the advantages of the single direction cutting, especially if reversible). Or have martial arts with movements that mimic the natural procession of the chainsword’s gyroscopic forces to deliver harder-to-block (but also easier to predict) blows.
"Chainsword rotating clockwise would be pulled IN the enemy and pull the enemy ON to you" A Space Marine: "NICE"
There is lore that suggests that some models are reversible.
I think it’s safe to say the chainsword is designed to operate at such a speed and force that all it does is tear through.
Plus, really, a Space Marine can hold something in place and manipulate the blade through the enemy pretty easily I’d say.
@@jager9198 in some of the books, space Marines switch your rotation direction in duels to throw the enemies blade.
varmituofm that’s cool! But I was talking about the chainsword blade being able to be moved through an enemy due to a Space Marine’s strength
Yeah
You: describing the realism of a Chainsword
Me an Intellectual: MY FAITH IN THE EMPEROR IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED!
Yes obira
The emprah proteccs!
Paint it red!
For the emperor
Guilliman is back so I believe in the IMPERIAL TRUTH! Chainswords are marvels of science.
*Tries to parry chainsword*
Now my weapon is in the next county, my whole hand is numb, and a very large gentleman is looking at me with purge filled eyes.
Why are you fighting a black Templar?
@@forrestdorman4870 I wasn't holy enough
@@connerbixby6532 why are you fighting a black templar *with melee?*
cause he is a Tau
@@hentiluvr1579I keep forgetting the space commies exist. But nay I am but a humble gaurdsman. The Black Templar heard me say something less than complimentary to the comissar and well.... now I'm just a warp voice in your head.
"This tree is a heretic... cut down the trees, my brothers!!" Laughed so hard after hearing that.
You can prune away its branches, even cut the tree to the ground, but it will grow again ever stronger. Such is the nature of heresy.
@@vardamirithor6590 Hence why you go for the root of the problem instead of just the symptoms
@@vardamirithor6590 Moar violence will do the job
Such is the nature of...nature.
On murder it was actually trees^^ i know it sounds weird but it's true 😅
The way you describe it made it sound like overkill, until one considers that Space Marines had to fight hulking space orcs, giant space bugs, and giant inter-dimensional demons. Having the absurd excess of mauling capabilities would be a necessity in the battlefields of 40k.
Orks can survive being decapitated if their head gets stitched onto a new body quickly enough, so a chainsword makes sense to completely mangle the poor sucker caught in it's path to prevent such a happenstance.
@@Zombiewithabowtie
Chainswords originate from Terra pre-unification, they're created to shred genetically enhanced dudes.
It was primarily for "shock and awe" to scare resistant planets into joining the imperium. Watching your friend get turned into a bloody pile of mangled flesh in one strike would be terrifying and enough to break the resistant humans will to fight. It isnt as useful against the xenos hordes, tyranids would be spraying acidic blood everywhere, demons wouldn't be phased by it one bit, orks can literally just glue the two halves back together
@@robertpistole7815
A) there are far more terror-inspiring weapons,
B) when you fight tyranids in close range, you're either wearing power armor that protects against acid blood, or you're screwed anyway,
C) demons are very uncommon enemy, then again, they're resistant to most of weapons,
D) provided ork survives the encounter and recovers lost parts.
@@robertpistole7815 To be fair.... the Orks have the Placebo effect, which is just as much of a deadly weapon for them as it is against them.
W40K developer 1: "You know what would be cool? If they used CHAINSAWS as swords!"
W40K developer 2: "Yeah! ...But is it realistic?"
W40K developer 1: "It's cool! But of course it's not realistic! Who cares about that?"
Shad: "I care! And actually..."
The Rule of Cool
@Cristian Serban bolter rounds are not micro-missiles.
A missile is capable of self guidance.
They're rocket propelled rounds, and they do plenty of damage, however...you don't need to reload a chainsword...
@@kevlarburrito6693 you do in a way you need to Reload them. you need to refuel (most) of them after a period of time that is determanded by how forten you use it(only exeption is some mastercrafted chainswords)
Vantor Vantor well then we’re all poop guns and eating is just reloading
Kevlar Burrito Missile is just a synonym for Projectile.
Chainswords: Because sometimes you need to cut things while simultaneously already cutting things.
Hey, we heard you like you like some sword in your sword, so we made the edge out of tiny rotating swords. You're welcome.
nice
Is that a RussianBadger quote?
If I remember correctly, civilian tier chainswords push enemies away. Astartes chainswords pull them in.
Don't you just love that their are even civilian tier chainswords?
@@Nempo13 man has te rights to protect himself and his family!
;)
So USA gun party still is alive in AD 40000
@@haukionkannel It's not a right to protect yourself and your family, it's your imperial duty. :)
@@Arcessitor Well said, arbites.
Well they theoretically can push or pull if it has a mechanism to pick the direction. Chainswords aren't the most common weapons in the Imperium, even the cheap gas (prometheum) powered ones so it would be an expensive to buy and fairly rare weapon. There's a reason why the Chainsword is the Melee staple that accompanies the Bolter in the hands of Space Marines and Battle Sisters as basic weapons and anything akin to those orgs use as standard would be vanishingly rare.
“Look at the chainsaw brutality in Gears of War!”
me: *[laughs in 40K]*
*HA HA HA HA HA HA*
"looks at the chainsaw brutality in Gears of War"
*remembers chainsword brutality from wh40k DoW intro*
I know, what a rip off
@@VictorianTimeTraveler Get out.
HempMasterNinja We saw you and you didn’t make the cut.
15:00 chainswords are, in fact, reversible on the fly. Abnett makes references to the practice during the flashback duel in "First and Only".
I was hunting for this comment. The Tanith First and Only approves.
It gets mentioned in the Ciphas Cain novels as well, going down to the trick of chain weapon duels being knowing when to reverse the rotation to throw your enemy off balance.
Aye, good comment.
That and it's surprisingly devastating thrust.
DepressivesBrot hopefully the teeth also reverse or it’s not gonna be all that useful.
shad: "wheres all the removed material going? you would absolutely splattered"
me: are you trying to convince me theres not enough blood and guts in 40k?
Yes, now I can imagine an Astartes fighting style unique to the chainsword or anyother Chain weapon, reversing the blades direction to punsh an enemy then using its hand guard smack him in the face, increasing the power to pull enemies to the ground to either step on them or shot or stab them ect.
They can even use the back of the "blade" as a blunt weapon.
P. S hope Astartes get some ideas from Shad in his current Official projects.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 you can learn about chain sword fighting in First and Only
That's exactly what I'M saying.
Hi Shad! Kerry from Man at Arms here. As one of the few people on earth with a functional chainsword (sitting right here in the room with me), I can tell you that one of the main problems with the sword as it is most often shown is the blade guard. The blade must have curf (width of cut) beyond the guard or it cant cut any deeper then the blade is exposed. This is a major issue! Power armour or great strength can as you stated fix issues of how cumbersome it might be but the physical issue of that guard cant be over come without major changes to the way these swords are normally shown. In our video you will notice that the guard is removed when we are cutting hard objects.
Love your videos Kerry, beautiful craftsmanship. The chainsword was amazing
Man at Arms is epic! Nice input Kerry
HERESY! FAITH IN THE EMPEROR IS ALL THAT IS REQUIRED! HERETIC!
@@Grissbane Or enough Orks that believe it´s possible.
Only because you guys are too weak to push the chainsword in yourselves.
the universal laws:
red things go faster
purple things are invisable
and there is never enough dakka
you missed the most important law:
In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only war...
You also forgot the other most important law: *GREEN IZ BEST!!!*
And war... War never changes...
(Yes I know that's fallout's slogan but I couldn't help it.)
Silent guns do no damage.
There is only WAGGGHHHH.
I am a simple man.
I see a Shad video on 40k,
I watch a Shad video on 40k.
Indeed battle brother
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!
DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR!!!
@@joeacnatety HERESY
Missed step, I like a Shad video on 40k
BLOOD FOR THE CORPSE EMPEROR
...
Wait a minute
"Chainsword rotating clockwise would pull in the enemy, and pull them on to you."
That's 40k for you. The placebo effect has a tangible effect on reality.
Also, the Orks believe chainswords work because they love *blam* foightin' humiez wif big gnazhin choppy bitz zo derefore chainzwordz wurk cuz Orkz say dey do. Zimple as, ya git.
Warhammer 40k + Shadiversity....the God Emperor has truly blessed us!
Lol. Yes, God Emperor Trump has blessed us all.
All hail the Imperium of Man.
Man-emperor, you mean.
The God Emperor of Mankind- A husk, that requires mass sacrifice of psychers daily. Who created the Imperium and removed any other form of worship. Honestly- sounds like a chaos god to me. We are all enslaved.
@@Archy871 BLAM!!! We got another heretic. All hail the Emperor!
It is inevitable that all weapon enthusiasts get dragged into 40k. Welcome to hell.
@I Nominate This Rock for the Democratic Candidacy I said 40k, not 30k, so I am certain that the Emperor would agree with my statement.
The Warp*
I think you wanted to say
Welcome to war
The Emperor protects
@@ornu01 I'll go get the bolt pistol.
Chainsword vs regular sword.
One of my space marines in my black templars' collection asked me "why not both?"
You mean power sword right?
Yeah but the joke is more effective if i say "regular sword" compared to "sword that it's basically a more metal light saber"
defs need a lib with a force sword
(Fellow black templar brother)
what is that sword-y thing you are talking about? Can it help the greater good?
In the Caiphas Cain novels it actually goes through the main character running through practice drills for blocks, strikes, parries and riposts, and then using them in combat. The main character is not a Space Marine, but he is described as extremely athletic and fit.
There is a scene where he is shown fighting an Ork Warboss, who is immensely stronger than him, has much greater reach, and is wearing power armor to boot, and armed with an even bigger chain weapon, where our hero is wearing a uniform. The first part of the fight has him dodging and parrying and thinking "Oh shit I'm going to die!" Then, after he's gotten a measure of his oponent he feigns running out of stamina. The warboss, being an orc, moves in for the kill, pressing their intersecting swords closer & closer, & leaning in to the hero, who he towers over. Whereupon, the protagonist shoves the pistol in his off hand through the Ork's vision slit, and into it's eye, and discharges it on full auto. I think it's a very good depiction of what that kind of combat would actually be like.
It also helps that he's one of the most skilled duelists.
I also recall a moment in one of the 40k novels I have where the chainsword is mentioned to have a reverse-motion that can help clean out the weapon if something jams into it and to basically 'fling crap' out of the way.
You honor the Machine-Spirits with such an in-depth analysis!
Praise be the Omnissiah!
your still not getting the toasters
Imagine he does all that before implanting blessed cogitators into his mind. He has the potential to be an archmagos. I think its worth breaking out the best recruitment tools: offer him the sacred service of a microwave !
@@darkkrenify *binary reeeeeing*
Warhammer laughs at your desire for realism.
Everything in Warhammer is turned up to 11000.
More like 40000
The funny thing is that Warhammer was always realistic
It stays mostly logical, though, otherwise books like Imperial Armour couldn't be written about it.
@@thomaswhite3149?
@@thomaswhite3149 Internal consistency is not realism.
Are chain swords actually effective?
Shad: Well no, but yes.
In more detail:
Well, _currently_ no, but _possibly_ yes.
Well no,but actually yes.
*IF THE CHAINSWORD HAS FAITH IN THE EMPORER, THAN "YES, ABSOLUTLY"*
It might be okay for messy executions.
current implementations no but if some 1 did some real RD could probably com up whit something practical
Alt title: "Catachan discusses the finer point of chainswords."
The teath of the blade i wold imagine
Catachan video next week "5 reasons why hunting knives are better than nukes"
“Wait, hang on guys, damn jungle is encroaching”
@@rafaelsantos1497 You didn't watch/listen to the video did you?
@@alexandermartinez1318 You don't really understand the concept of "humour" do you?
A 40k video without heresy? Colour me impressed.
Ave Imperator!
Gloria, in exelsis Terra!
Heh, show this to the Mechanicus, think they would see it as pretty heretical.
Now excuse me, i habe to figure out how to get my heretics out of their Arbites isolation cells...
What about the Slaaneshi propaganda chain porn?
About bloody time someone recognized Me.
Huh? What do you mean... i know there's more than one Emperor, but which one? Him? oh, good friends with him.
Mate, i gave him me finger as a sign of friendship, he even offered to take it out for me, which was mighty nice of him.
No heresy? Slaaneshi Chain-porn? Endorsement of Orkian red paint-schemes? Not to mention the heretical scriptures in his shelves....
You're analyzing a weapon from a universe where some green bois can make vehicles go faster by painting them red
those same green bois can also just make those vehicles go by thinking that they can go they dont even need to paint it red
Flinchous it’s not about thinking it... it’s about *believing* it.
Not to mention that the guys wielding the chainswords also have guns that are basically rocket propelled grenade launchers. As the weapon in the other hand while attacking with the chainsword...
Omar, we all know you painted bright purple.
Trying to be all sneaky sneaky?
HEY EVERYONE! OMAR MARTINEZ IS TRYING TO BE SNEAKY ORC! IGNORE HIM!
*RED’UNS GOO FASTAHHHHHH*
"It cuts because I will it to cut"
- Rogal Dorn, probably.
"At least try to be a little more clever than that." - Magnus the Rad
@@changer_of_ways_999 Rad?
@@siddharthnandi3995 Magnus’ cooler twin brother
@Elias Johnson hmmmnno
"I am go"
In fairness, the chainsword is meant to scare the shit out of the Marine's adversaries as well. Its also meant to be extremely brutal to basically punish someone that fought against the Imperium.
It is a terror weapon.
@@joeb8248 the heretics deserve nothing less
i actually have a chain spear, its great. it attaches to my weed whacker engine and also comes in really handy for pruning my trees. best part is i got it at the hardware store for $50.
When you can shrug off a 0.75 caliber mass reactive explosive bullets, you don't really need to dodge. Plus there is the power armor.
And wave after wave of guards men to keep throwing at the enemy until they run out of ammunition.
@Lord Admiral Spire Actually, there are chainswords that are better than power swords. For example Leman Russ personal chainsword. Which has a implemented power field and is made of the teeth of some beast that can cut anything with its teeth (some kind of leviathan). There are also just upgraded chain swords that have additional power fields. I believe those are mostly for space marines.
@Lord Admiral Spire Well, yes. There are power chain swords. Which are mostly used by the Vlka Fenryka (Space Wolves). Leman Russ Sword is an artifact weapon that is even superior :D.
Astartes do not "shrug off" bolter rounds.
You do realize that Astartes use bolters against other Astartes right?
@@sevenproxies4255 yes, but normally heavy bolters.
The thing is, even if the Chainsword wasn't as effective as a sword Space Marines would probably still use it purely for intimidation.
The Imperium of Man has many examples of this. I mean for crying out loud the giant Titan mechs and their battleships are essentially moving cathedrals with planet-killing weapons strapped to them.
Who wouldnt surrender if the sun stops shining because of the giganic chainsaw of a imperial titan? But it is not dark because of the blue light of his charging plasmagun.
Intimidate what, Orks? They'll run even faster to you. Chaos marines? They don't give a fuck. Eldar? Maybe. Tau? They don't do melee so their fucked the moment they hear the chain sword. Everyday heretic/rebel? Yeah shitting bricks.
''Except for a Commissar's laspistol''
I legit started laughing my arse off.
"Except for a Comissar's laspistol"
My Comissar: laughs in boltpistol
@@theslayerssanctum5534 Oof, that must suck for you, my commissar's dead.
Lmao I just don’t have a commisar.
@@theslayerssanctum5534 Your pistol is meaningless for the Krieg, your entire job is to try and prevent an endless charge, and if you try and hold them back for too long the guardsmen all kill you anyway for being a coward. If you aren't in the first rank? The nearest Krieg kills you anyway for being a coward.
>Video of Shadiversity reviewing the 40k Chainsword: *Exists*
>In Count Dooku voice: *"I've been looking forward to this."*
As a Warhammer person, I'm so glad you did this video Shad. Chainblades are an icon; and they are just awesome.
What do you identifie as girl or boy? Warhammer person.
3:30 why is the pornhub intro playing there
Slaanesh recruitment video
Probably added by the editor for lols. Expecting people to ask in the comments, then they can read it and be like "haha, how would they know the pornhub intro?". Also there is actually more on porhub than porn, I've found letsplays, animated kids shows and beutiful harp music there, it's great!
@@badasunicorn6870 Well all of this is technically truth, but it all exist there in peverted form
Because nothing is more arousing than watching heretics and xenos meet their deserved fate.
The Less-Than-Good Hunter yes blood more blood
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
KILL MAIM BURN
DEATH TO THE EMPEROR
I feel it's important to point out that with a lot of TH-cam videos talking about martial applications of 40k technology (and I think you nail and understand that in the context of the universe these things actually do make more sense), they somewhat miss that a lot of the technology (if not all) that's used in the year 40k is actually developed in around 25k (which was pretty much the height of human technology achievements, it was god like technology and then all lost after the fall) and just rediscovered later in the year 30-40k. A lot of this technology wasn't originally actually meant to be used the way that it's used, Terminator armour for example was simply just a very rugged space suit in 25k but when rediscovered in 30k, because of the nature of the Imperium (and to be fair the nature of the galaxy that the Imperium has to survive in) it was repurposed into powered battle armour that's now worshiped, cherished and looked after the way we'd look after the Sistine Chapel). So when it comes to Chainswords it might look a little unwieldy but that's probably because it was originally used to be attached to a 20-25k robots arm to be used as a simple cutting tool, the Imperium just see it and think "ooooh think of what we could use that for!"
Shadiversity, the Tech-Priest who specialized in melee weapons.
The teeth on the chain sword could also just be going back and forth in an actual sawing motion, effectively cancelling out any effect of Newton's Third law on its own.
The first mistake of making a 40K analysis.
Assuming logic is a big concern
Thinking is Tzeentch worship and heresy
WH40k is still far more logical than, say, Tom and Jerry or Disney's Star Wars.
@@ДокторЯдо Does star wars have orks that can make things work just by believing they work?
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269
I was talking specifically about Disney's Star Wars. And you seem to misunderstand what I meant.
Fiction can divert from rules of reality in the laws of its own setting. Orks having collective mind-warping psychic field is a good example. However, any work of fiction should stay true to its previously established rules. Ass-pulls are never a good thing. It's not great when already very Mary Sue-ish character turns out to be descendant of saga's main villain, or when some smartass Mechanicum turns out to have hundreds of thousands NEW BETTER supersoldiers in stasis chambers all over the Galaxy, and no one in ten thousand years had any idea they existed.
@@ДокторЯдо Oh got it
You have to remember a space marine can swing a weapon with the force of a large pickup truck hitting you at medium to fast speed.
"They hit me with a truck" - Edgy boy #56
Cept they are hitting monsters who would mostly laugh that off. Like a carnifex, who would throw that truck across the town
Marine strength helps make any weapon plausible, cept that they are made to fight things generally bigger and scarier than even them
@@barrylyndon5552 would laugh it off if it wer not for ceramite armor and blades that are one molecule thick or powered with a force field that can cut through almost anything or amplify the power of such blow a thousand fold. Space marines are badass in my opinion
@@barrylyndon5552 ok the creatures would not be harmed very much or at all but that's why they have devistator and terminator squads or in such scenarios dreadnought or heavy vehicles such as land raiders and other tanks.
@@franksworld9922 I collect Custodes so marines are like our pets. But yeah, we pat them on the head and tell them theyre are doing a pretty good job.
Marines are rather strong, but they are outclasses in the galaxy by the sheer death out there. Their best weapons are skill and tactics, their weapons and physical strength is only above average and their numbers are tiny. But by working together and having godly plot armor they often win
The thumbnail is wrong shad wouldn't be a grey knight he would be an emperor's fist because he would spend his time fortifying imperial MATICULATIOOOOONNNNNSSSSS
That looks more like a deathwatch tho
Either way he still should be fortifying imperial matchiculations
If you look in the belt area the mark of the blood angels is visible
Black Templar. Like machicolations just as much as other Imperial Fist successors, but also like SHOUTING!!!!!
Just because the armor is grey/silver doesn't automatically make them a grey knight. Sorry for sounding so serious but as someone who has an independent chapter design and having to explain that everytime really sets me off.
WE ARE THE ANGELS OF in depth analysis as to the practically of the chainsword
Chainsword direction can be changed on the fly by user. This function is used in chainsword combat as a standard technique.
Was looking for this comment. At least in one of the Gaunt's Ghosts books, knowing when to reverse your spin direction (such as in a bind) is an integral part of dueling with chainswords.
"Slaneshi recruitment video" f***ing brilliant lol great video shad, and editing team
I won't lie, I'm curious as to the video.
Purely to report those in it to the Inquisition, of course.
@@darthfenrir4892
Too late heretic! *BLAM*
@@felniiriisk8863 YOU INSPIRE YOUR MEN TO STUDY SUCH FOUL SMUT COMMISAR?!? YOU HERETIC! *BLAM*
100 likes, neat
"But if they're not in armor, that could injure you quite significantly"
*Laughs in Sister Repentia*
I see what you did there. Well done
Unarmored chainsword users in-universe are always depicted as insane suicidal maniacs, though, even for 40k standards. That also includes Redemption cultists who have a tendency of charging in with long flowing robes and gigantic two handed chainswords.
@@CrizzyEyes
...ON FIRE!
No srsly, the redemptionists uses them with a built in flamer which wreath the blades in flames 8D
Yeah but if you've ever looked at the chainsword blade direction, they don't have much to worry about in that regard...
Ah yes, the Eviscerator Two-handed Chainsword. A weapon for the true believer.....
RED GOES FASTA
YELLA' MAKES BIGGA' BOOM
BLACK IS TUFF
BLUE IS LUCKY
YA FURGOT PURPULL IS SNEEKY YA GROT
@@FishfaceTheDestroyer YA MOIGHT BE ROIGHT, BU' IMMA KRUMP YA AND TAKE YA TEEF YA GIT
AN‘ OF CURSE: GREEN. IS. BEST!!!
@@ragnerschwarzmane3412
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@@mattaffenit9898 Me: *Looks at WAAAAGH* shit.
My character: CEASE YOUR HERETICAL EXISTENCE AT ONCE!!!!!!!!!
"Living bone"
Yeap... found the necromancer
Leave that man alone, it's hard enough nowadays to raise a family when they aren't buried in the same grave anymore due to high divorce numbers..
For all my colleagues who are also facing severe persecution, to bypass such hypocritical laws instead of raise dead, you can use animate object.
MEEEE! xD
@@JohannLudwigEdel Oh, I didn't realize Necromancers suffered this much, I'm sorry for the pain you have to go through.
Technically it's not really bone, but it is organic material. It's weird.
During the Horus Heresy space marines found the chainswords weren't very effective against other marines. New fighting techniques had to be developed to make them more useful
By and large they aren't that good but way easier to produce than power swords. Faster as well since I believe game mechanic wise Power swords always went last in the attack phase if I remember right.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming You're thinking power fists and axes, not power swords
This, much this. The Chainsword is specifically an anti-personnel weapon, used for killing fleshy, lightly armored things like Tyranid gaunts, Ork boyz, traitorous guardsmen, Eldar aspect warriors, etc etc. And on top of that, the roaring and screaming of the chainblade alone sends a message to the enemy in a universe where emotions can affect the world (Warp stuff and all that)
Why not use more power weapons? Well, power weapons are **very** hard to craft, IIRC they're also a lost technology. And actually, factions like the Eldar that still have the tech *do* use power swords en-masse; only the Striking Scorpion aspect warriors use chainswords.
Why not use bladed weapons with the same technologies and materials used in the chainsword? Well, by and large the things that you'll be hitting with it are highly resistant to simple cuts, I.E. Orks. Chainbladed weapons will apply *more* force outside of the wielder's swing: Even if the initial strike dosen't penetrate, the blades will start ripping at the armor, then the flesh underneath. This is especially important for the Adeptus Astartes, who suffer from impaired flexibility and maneuverability due to their hulking physique and power armor.
So, if you can't arm your entire arm with power weapons and simple bladed swords are insufficient, you make chainswords.
@@SoftisNelaris standard power armor isn't very restrictive to movement. It been described as acting as a second skin. The exceptions being Mk3 power armor, imdomitus and Cataphractii terminators plate. Shad has no idea of the thirst of Warhammer fans for good content.
Hmm. I wonder how would a chainsaw not be effective against armor made out of pure metal. I mean seriously, if you are cutting wood with a chainsaw and acidentaly hit a random little rusty nail, your chainsaw needs a new chain. Why would one use that in combat against buff guys in thick plated armor? But again, we are talking about 40k, a place where there still is melee combat even though guns exist.
Doom told me its pretty practical. It works well on demons
Space Marines would agree.
@Chase Moore so a black templar then
@@richardlionerheart1945 He's basically Sigusmund, the very angriest of Dorn's Angry Boys
pretty handy on cacodemons, especially. their pain tolerance is low enough to get stunlocked by it, they're tanky enough to be worth the trouble, and their large hitbox block shots from enemies behind them, protecting you while you rip them to shreds.
@@VeryPeeved Scion Matilda: Aw yeah, they're right tanky little buggers, innit?
Ooh I like that hidden message.... wait no.... must've been my imagination
What message?
Whenever I start my Husky I shout, 'For the Emperor!'
AHHHHHH
And what do you shout when it breaks and you realise you should have bought a Stihl?
I bet most people never even considered that chainsaws and brushcutters have their own ridiculous PlayStation-Xbox rivalry.
PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH
*sees the new intro* HOLY CRAP! I am already amazed. Also: "FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!"
Which Emperor Mr. Tarkin?
*the Inquisition would like to know your location*
FOR THE EMPEROR! We need more 40k content, deffo.
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!!
*battlecry intensifies*
Next Episode: The standart imperial bayonet!
Emperor protects
Don’t mind me, just a guardsman patrolling for heresy
Hail friend! Remember, the planet broke before the guard did. And stay vigilant, heretics and xenos lurk in all corners of the Imperium!
Don't mind me, just a commisar overseeing a guardsman patrolling for heresy, trying to come up with excuses to shoot him.
In The Name of The Ordo Hereticus i hereby apprehend this commisar, overseeing a guardsman, patrolling for heresy, on the charge of heresy.
Plaid PVCPipe
You are suspiciously friendly..i hereby by order you to present yourself to your nearest Ordo Hereticus Base of Operations, to be tested for slaaneshi corruption.
[defiently shoots the guardsman for non complience with grooming regulations (and also heresy) before being apprehended. On the charge of heresy.]
As far as I understand, the "chain"part of 40k weapons are indeed different, some rotate towards the user, others away from him, and some consist of different saws moving in opposite dirrections form one another, thus making the weapon even deadlier and more efficient in "sawing"/removing material from the cut.
clearly the emperor planned to make all his space marines lumberjacks after they retired
Retired....what kind of heresy is this?! In 41st millenia there is only war and it wont stop even when milkyway galaxy is under rightful rule of the terra. If you havent noticed there is other galaxies around and some twats bioengineered nids into existence and send them to milkyway... Emperor wants to have wee bit of a chat whit these twats, hence there is no retirement for space marines..
Space marines don’t retire, they get taken behind the shed by the emperor when they get too old
Oh hell....I now have in my head a picture of Space Marines doing the Lumberjack song....
@@canadiancrok2240 To be fair the Thunder Warriors were extremely unstable genetically and were prone to just dropping dead.
Retired that's cute!
i absolutely love the edits whenever shad is using the computer, never disappoints.
Who needs a 4K video... when you have a 40K video?
Weakling heretics, that's who.
What of a 40K video in 4K?
Still waiting around for someone to do a video analyzing lightning claws. Out of all the 'weird' weapons in 40K, I feel they always get overlooked, and I think they're more plausible than people might think.
My Primarch approves this comment.
Okay, but is that Ork who has pinned down an Imperial Guard regiment with two hours of continuous fire when all he has in his magazine is a handful of pebbles and a scrap of leather with a crudely drawn ∞ on it realistic?
Oh god. Imagine some absolute madman who convinced the orks that drawing an infinity on anything makes it never run out of dakka.
@@shdowdrgonrider *MORE DAKKA*
Depends i'd say. If you ask a guardsman that survived, he would propably reply: "Realistic enough to keep us pinned for two hours." ^^
Orcs are amazing, but also being Zeno scum they must be purged
@split haven they kind of can, the Orks belief can be turned against them, if they BELIEVE a man is an immortal god who can fire deathlasers from his eyes then...he BECOMES immortal and can fire deathlasers from his eyes. there's 1 anecdote from the lore I've heard of a group of guardsmen pinned down by a huge force of orks and they ran out of ammo. As the Orks were getting close a Guardsmen commander/Sergeant leaned over the defences on the lil hill and yelled ''BANG BANG, YOU'RE DEAD'' while pointing his empty gun at an Ork and the Ork's head exploded. Suddenly all the guardsmen started pointing empty guns at them yelling BANG BANG and throwing rocks while yelling ''THROWING A GRENADE AT THEM'' and the rock blows up like an actual grenade. So with a lil bit of trickery they could turn it on them ^^
Shad. 40k. Chainsword. Im watching and subbing
Why would you not have subbed if you liked Shad beforehand?
@@CharalamposKoundourakis im picky with what i watch with my time
Today I learned Shad would make an excellent Remembrancer. Great vid, and fun references for the 40k fandom.
Who is Shad Brother do you mean Brother
Occulus imperialis is a 40k rembrancer style TH-cam channel if it'd be of interest
@@jakobottsman7470 You are absolutely right Brother. I must now begin my Penance Crusade. Into the fires of battle-
@@DECKTRON5001 Wow this is perfect! thanks for the recommendation, subbed and ready for my next hobby session. :)
Something I love about warhammer is that they have in lore addressed how, when being used by normal people, it is best to just use it as a very ornate club. I think because space marines are so strong it has the same idea, in that you just need to thwack someone with it to kill them, but the chainsaw part is just so that if an enemy doesn't die they are not going to be getting back up or attacking you after a hit.
"Brother! Get the Heavy Hose!" I was nearly on the ground laughing my arse right off sir. Well done.
Let's cleanse your armor of this xeno filth, battle brother.
Using a chainsaw in combat properly:
Lop your hand off at the wrist, ideally because it went bad
Attach chainsaw
GROOVY
note most effective against demon possessed zombies... aka deadites
And if that fails, there's always the boomstick.
@@mattrickard3716 Indeed
That's what ork warboss do
Who’s laughing now, xeno? WHO’S LAUGHING NOW?!
I wonder, would a holy spell even AFFECT a deadite?
FOR THE EMPEROR! Welcome Shad to the Grim Dark.
The Emperor protects.
Andreas Björkman it shall be loud
WITH YOUR SCREAMS
Andreas Björkman I SAID IT SHALL BE LOUD WITH YOUR SCREAMS!
Andreas Björkman FOR THE LOVE OF KHORNE! THATS MY FAVOURITE KIND OF SCREAMS!
@@micohazakin8576
_RRRRRRUSS AND THE ALLFATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!_
**Poweraxe-ing intensifies**
Shad : "Chainsaw sword is not real !"
Imperial Knights engineer : "ok boys, put down that chainsaw arm"
Sad gallant hours
Shad said that it is plausible, though.
*Shad puts up potential Xeno propaganda*
*Inquisitors would like to know your location*
Innocence proves nothing
LARRY! BRING ME MY EXTERMINATUS BUTTON!
*Larry pushes button*
WRONG BUTTON!
@@Sairren37 *shoots Larry in the head*
Bring me another Larry
Innocents are guilty of wasting my time.
Next analysis: "Do red wunz really go fastah?"
They do
@@Ally5141 ironically, studies show that blue is actually the color taht goes faster. something about it being a colder cooler, so it conserves heat or something? Don't tell the orks though.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 well becuose ther all thing red is faster it couses the baklash of the warpenergy thats generated on this way to make it faster
@@ichduoderer1498 I know how the orks work. The thing is, it's based on the number of them in the vicinity and their belief. Shake that belief, and break that power.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 but its gencodet into them wahts makes it pritty hard
Inquisitor Shad always makes the best records of weapon history, Empreor BLESSED!
for the Emporer. I wanna know more about 40 weapons in general, including and especially hammers.
Shad. Poits for being Orky!!! RED UN GOES FASTAAAAAA!!!
You actually can switch the rotation direction of a chainsword on the fly, if the Gaunt's Ghosts books are to be believed.
Shad pulling the start cord on his chainsword:
*pull* Machi--
*pull* Machico--
*pull* Machicolatioooooo--[chainsaw buzz]!!!
3:30 I'm dying over here, I don't know how many times I've replayed this.
chainswords slide off armour plates in the novels, generally they aim for the flexible softer joints, the motion for attacking an opponent will most likely be a slash like a katana rather than a chopping motion like some swords which would rely on the momentum of the strike to aid the chainsword teeth to catch and dig into the material
Touches tau
Tau : EXPLODES
@@ad-skyobsidion4267 can confirm, this is how it works
Which is realistic. You need to get purchase on something to saw it and since chainswords have mediocre armor penetration the teeth are obviously only scratching Ceramite at best. Therefore the most efficient places to slash are soft areas and joints. Even plated joints are better since the armor plates will deflect into the joint so you can still grind down more efficiently.
Shad: *RED THINGS JUST GO FASTA*
Me: *laughs in dakka*
Well done that one, same goes for the rest of the video
HERETIC DETECTED
@DanRage47 8:21
the double handed 40k chainsword, the "evicerator" would definatley be able to use either edge to best advantage.
Gabriel Seth agrees.
In the Commissar Gaunt novels a young Gaunt duels another commissar, chainsword to chainsword, and yes, flipping the rotational direction was a real tactic.
That intro caught me completely off-GUARD. Hahahaha!
Awesome, Shad! Love it!
We all know Shad’s battle-cry in 40k: For the MACHICOLATIOOOOOOOONS!
@El Bearsidente Shad would turn an Emperor class Titan, from a walking cathederal, into a walking castle
He'd fit well with Imperial Fists. The creators of the mighty Golden Machicolations of the Imperial Palace!
Shad will definitely be a son of Dorn.
So he would be an Iron Fist
@@deathcompanybattlebrother so you want to say, that he would be able to make an Emperor's pallace a titan and the Emperor would be able to fight once again?
And now everyone says it three times with me
Mono-molecular
Mono-molecular
Mono-monecular
See, not so diffic-
Ahh dang it :/
I really didn't expect shad to know so much about 40k, you keep surprising me.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!
Gtfo you heretic
BURN! MAIM! KILL!!!! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!
On a side note, khorne flakes are amazing, but I prefer mine with the freshly spilt and still hot blood of my foes
in the name of The Emperor Burn Heretics!!!
Don't forget the Tau flavor...... Kroot Loops....
I am irrationally happy to see this comment :D
For the Emperor! The guardsman who is true in faith needs not his flak armor, for the Emperor protects.
*Full auto flash lights intensifies*
It's not like it'll do anything anyway.
My face is my shield
The Emperor protects. . . But he protects those who wear their Flak Armor more
Shad: States valid cons of a chainsword
Me: ***Stares at Shad coldly in Adeptus Astartes***
Downsides: To heavy for normies, sprays you with enemies guts AND armor, pulls you and the enemy closer together/throws the enemy away from you.
The only real downside is the weight issue, but that just makes it a weapon exclusive to elite troops. Oh, and the whole armor particles ripping your legs apart if you don't wear armor thing.
Evolution was a great movie
@@Sorrowdusk lol most folks don't get where I got my profile pic from, good catch lol.
@@soldraconis3899 too heavy for "normies"? Iirc Comissar Ciaphas Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!! is an expert chainsword fencer. He even trained with a Space Marine.
@@undertakernumberone1 Brother Drumon!
Another thing about chainswords is also that you hear them revving in the media. So the wielder may have some control over the chain actually running. They could disengage the blade while parrying and such. They may even be able to simply engage a gear to reverse the spin of the blade.
I used a chainsaw for years, its not the saw thats heavy, its the engine and fuel. A sci-fi powered shainsword would not be more unweildy than like a DaDao, and thats just improving the engine.
Hm, never thought of that, I used to use chainsaws about every day on the weekends, but that never even crossed my mind.
@@Kortegard0341 It does make sense though. The 'blade' is just that. a bit of slim metal with gears in it and a bladed chain. thats not entirely heavy. If you could power it with shocky electricity then theoretically you could bypass the need for solid/liquid fuel. Iirc, in lore they are battery powered.. much like most things in any scifi universe =w=
@@DaMoniable linear electromagnetic accelerators directly on the chain and you don't have to care about clogging the chain either.
@@SonsOfLorgar That might actually work O: From there youd just need a sizeable battery to keep it running for several hours, though im not sure about the chain clogging. Surely you would have to disassemble it occasionally to clean out where it contacts. Theres also the issue that magnets have, including electromagnets, which is when they get struck hard enough, it could mess with polarity, even if for a few moments, which in theory could either bring the chain to a stop entirely, or make it sputter... which might not be ideal for something you use for striking things.
Well even in 40k, chaindaw do clog and break so maintenance is always essential. There is no such thing as a weapon that needs no maintaining, no matter what fancy scifi shit you use.
Excellent work, Brother Shad. You have done well.
In Nomine Imperator, gloria!
Tashkiira shadman????? Woopsie
The Imperial truth is a lie.
In Nomine Imperatoris*
This tree is a heretic!
Cut down the trees, brothers!
Space Marine, after spending 3 minutes chopping on an orc's neck with a sword. "Damn, this is like chopping down a tree with a knife - possible, but far too slow"
Lumberjack, with chainsaw *brrrrrrrrrrrrr* "Timbeeerr"
Space Marine: *Doomguy has found the chainsaw*
My father actually really badly injured himself with a chainsaw to the point that he has permanent nerve injury. He was actually in a few competitions in Australia for tree felling until then. A concept that he described to me leaps out at me here;
By the time the pain had registered and that burning sensation had run up his arm, and then the amount of time it took to realize what was happening and release the trigger mechanism, he had already cut 2 inches deep into his own arm and the entire muscle of his forearm was basically just a piece of meat hanging off his arm. It also "gripped" onto the skin and flesh and became entangled with his skin and had to be torn off even after the blade had stopped moving. This is in the period of what was described to me as; "Less than a second's time". As soon as the blade touches skin, is just grips in and starts sawing, biting deeper and deeper. It doesn't just cut if you apply pressure, especially on flesh. It WANTS to dig deeper into flesh. It will grip, bite and tear and pull itself deeper into the cut. For this story in particular, he was 20m up a tree and another climber had to scale the tree with spikes and he had to stand on the guy's shoulders as they climbed back down with a lanyard because the wound was so severe that if he released pressure, it would spray blood. This is less than a second of blade contact with no downward pressure, in fact, the pressure was upward and was barely a graze. His arm was just pulled toward the cut as soon as contact was made because of the nature of skin.
Another anecdotal story I heard involves clothing. Because clothing is so loose, when the blade catches clothing, it doesn't cut through for lack of resistance. Instead, it just grabs the clothing and pulls it. Whoever is wearing that clothing gets pulled in the same way. I briefly met a man who lost an arm because he was wearing a jumper (sweater) that was too loose and it got caught in the blade when he reached over to remove a small stick that had become jammed in the stabilizing spike. Because of the way his arm was being pulled, it wasn't possible to release the mechanism until it had broken his wrist and sawed half way through the bone of his arm, requiring amputation.
These tools are specifically designed to tear through Australian Hardwood, some of the hardest wood on the planet. Things that don't have a pulpy structure or are specifically fibrous are damaged exponentially by these types of tools because of their tendency to "grip" materials that are soft or loose and fibrous. Even in your first real-world example, if you touched them for even a moment it wouldn't just go "ZZZT", it would immediately bite in to any clothing or flesh and they couldn't pull away without tearing the flesh and skin that's been caught in the blades off their own body in the process. In the standard reaction time of a human being, about .5 of a second, the cut could easily be an inch deep or more. A fairly average chainsaw blade travels at about 2500 surface feet per second, around 60 miles per hour or 100 kilometers per hour. Depending on the location, it would be an immediate mortal blow because your opponent would tear the wound open trying to get away from the saw and just immediately bleed out if they didn't hold the wound closed, leaving themselves totally vulnerable.
It's nasty, nasty shit. I nearly got PTSD just from looking at the horror in their faces as they recounted their tales alone. This stuff is extremely dangerous and extremely damaging without even considering magic metals that defy the crystalline structure of metals being physically incapable of forming the cementite/pearlite structure needed for it's integrity by lacking sufficient molecules and physics itself because the Fairy King said "Magic". I have a qualification in metallurgy and magic metal annoys me nearly as much as studded leather armour annoys you because I understand how metal works and what makes strong and hard metals strong or hard.
...you scared me with this description... Great post.
I'm never gonna go near one of those! Thanks for sharing these stories!
all my joints felt weak just from reading. i think i'll prefer a laspistol to the back of the head, thanks...
Sorry to hear about those guys your dad included. Mechankcal engineering has taught me to have a very healthy amount of respect for anything with more than a hundred joules of energy...
I think shad missed one important point here that you touched on. Chainswords would be brutal to morale. If you just saw your buddy ripped to shreds with a chainsaw you mite just run fkr your life training and commisar be damned.
Even the issue with the swords. A battery powered chainsaw is scary light all things considered. You have to dodge it though unless you have a piece of something thick chunkey tough and hard to put between you and it. Ive used bandsaws to cut through 1 inch steel plate ... a chain saw will cut through armor eventually if u had diamond teeth .... anything behind that armor better fight like hell to get that blade off because its dead ktherwise
God level response.
My only contribution was going to be that just as a sword gets stuck because of it's inability to push the material being cut out of the way, so too can a chainsaw get stuck (and they frequently do) if the bar gets pinched by the two halves of whatever you happen to be cutting as it starts losing structural integrity, because you have cut half way through it for instance.
The design of the chainsword seems to overcome this to some degree due to the limited depth of penetration which precludes the bar of the sword from coming in contact with the object being cut. Between the size of the teeth on the chainsword (much greater depth of cut than real chainsaw teeth) and the evidence gleaned from your testimony, perhaps it would be a more effective weapon than first appearances or even the Man at Arms model would suggest, even without magic metal?
Really enjoyed the video, I would really like some other WH40K videos in the future
11:04 Yes brother, the trees are heresy that further the nurgle infestations, we must purge this foul heresy😂😂😂. THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!!!!
The Emperor Protects!
5:05. Actually, not. The chainsword will dig its way through your opponent, effectively preventing it from breaking distance or contact with the cutting edge.
12:30 That's why he (Everyone knows that this mechanism has a soul or machine spirit, as this phenomenon is called by Adeptus Mechanicus.) has such a large developed guard.
At 5:05 Shad is talking about real life chainsaws, not the chainsword, so I'd say he is actually correct on that point.
So we are questioning the perfection of the glorious chainsword, gifted to you mere mortals by the Omnissiah without any reverence to the machine spirit? TECHNO-HERESY!!!
The chainsword is not perfect. How could it be? It is a physical object. The Omnissiah's light illuminates all things, and by it we see the many glories of the universe, but only by their shadows do we see them--crude, imperfect things, which we strive to replicate by devising new tools to watch the shadows, and perhaps to catch a glimpse of the shapes that cast them. How could the chainsword be perfect, when the hands that craft it are human?
Never forget: the truth of the quest for knowledge is that it _is_ a quest. Learn to see the quest in everything--in every step you take, in every grain of sand in the air, in every flickering shadow on the wall. _That_ is how you will come to recognize the Omnissiah. In the myriad souls of the world, all bound together, as cogs in a grand, impossible machine.
(Don't mind me; go about your business, citizen.)
Power Swords, Force Swords, and Rune Swords are better.
I'll see your puny chainswords and raise you a big zoggin' chain choppa that's painted red.
Your move cogboy.
Power weapons are too expensive(and often time consuming) for mass production, Force weapons are psykers only, and runic weapons are force weapons those Fenrisian furries pretend aren't force weapons
Don’t worry my Skitarii bruva,
Shad mentions that it becomes *VERY* effective using technology modern humans do not have today and only in the 41st millennium.
Some of this technology includes proper veneration of the machine spirit and that simply goes without saying.
fun thing is that chainswords are one of the weapons with less armor piercing capacity in wh40k
Odd...because technically, saws are great at cutting through armor/metal IRL...
@@kyokyoniizukyo7171 As good as 50 cal?
>shad: gets mad cuz he cant say mono-molecular
>also shad: blutned
Yeah, I noticed that. Should be blunted shurely. Wish I could invent words like that.
1:57 Oh look! It's Notorious MAC and his ever so fancy blanket!
Found out what the glimpse at the beginning was
It says
“Chronicles of Everfall Shadow of the Conqueror”
Nice👌
Oh is that what that was?
All you have to do is slow it down.