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You forgot one; ANY world "The 100" ever set foot on. One second thought, I know you have been avoiding that whole mess, and I congratulate you on that. Keep up the good works!
@@casbot71 is Arrakis now their homeworld or are they just the administrators? Wasnt Giedi Prime still the Harkonnen homeworld while they were administrators on Arrakis?
@@susanwojcickisnicetwin Caladan was the ancestral HOME of House Atreides...Arrakis was their fiefdom, given to them as a good ol' Greeks Present (quite poetic since the Atreides were the descendents of ancient Greek nobles...)by the Emperor. SPOILERS...of a book that is older than me (Im 40...)the book was launched in 1965...seriously... it's not spoiler anymore... But after the events that happened in Dune, Paul made it the Capital Planet of the Empire AND House Atreides settled it as it Homeworld. They even had to re-conquer Caladan while the Jihad happened.
I feel that Cybertron would have worked on this list because that planet is so war torn that the transformers themselves had to leave because it couldn't support them anymore.
Didn't the story go that the Autobots were forced off Cybertron by the Decepticons and then they went back to live there again, following which the planet was then totally destroyed? TBH I am well out of touch with it as when I was a kid it was just Gen 1 and Dinobots followed by the super cheesy movie where Optimus Prime gets revived.
I'd say Skaro would be high on any list. Centuries of War and radioactive fallout, the survivors of each faction forced to steadily resort to more and more primitive weaponry. Eventually leading to the creation of the likes of the Daleks and the Varga plant.
I think technically the house spent more time on Arrakis than Caladan if you include the entire series of books, the Atredies empire originated on Arrakis, but just the house was Caladan for sure. It could kinda go both ways honestly, it depends on how you look at it.
Tatooine was inhabitable once, a verdant jungle... Then it got glassed. Not sure what happened to the water when this happened though. The Tuskans who were a slave-race at the time somehow got the blame from the Rakatan Empire for the plague that cut them off from the force, and most of their tech and so they glassed the planet with what little of their force-requiring tech they could still operate. Somehow the proto-tuskans were able to survive in the dense networks of caves around the planet despite these being too shallow to survive an attack that reduced more then 90% of the surface to molten silicates... These survivors would eventually speciate into the religious zealots of the Tuskan Raiders who rejected the technologies of other races descending into a more primitive state, and the Jawa salvagers who embraced it and just ended up wandering junk traders. The reason everyone crashes there is because it exists at the end of a number of very long hyperspace routes, making it essentially the point where a badly damaged or broken hyperdrive's emergency safeties will toss out anyone traveling in that direction along said route. Not sure what happens if they do not emerge, but considering it is dangerous to the minds of most sapient beings to directly observe... I suspect being stranded in hyperspace means you die horribly somehow.
It's not obvious what happens to ships trapped in hyperspace - unlike space hulks in 40K, we never see them again, so presumably they continue plowing blindly along in hyperspace until they get disintegrated by running into a mass shadow - but that's for the ships themselves. As for the crews, it's assumed that they generally off themselves if they can. There was an exceptionally dark moment in Legends toward the end of the Black Fleet Crisis books, where a particularly nasty war criminal gets himself stuffed into an escape pod with a couple months' rations and a holdout blaster, and cast adrift while the ship is in hyperspace. The group doing this to him explains that they'd been researching ways to drop guided missiles from hyperspace, but had never figured it out; all they'd managed to learn was that even droid brains go crazy, when they'd launch from the ship and realize they couldn't transition back to realspace as intended.
@@tba113 ... Well I suppose this means I was not wrong. Since going insane and blowing your brains out would suck, starving would suck, and the mass shadow is the quickest out so... Yeah might not be 'horribly' but certainly die.
It probably had a relatively small population to begin with. Just large enough to cause problems for the Ratana in that sector. When they rebelled, the Rakata did to them what the Romans did to Carthage, which was in Tunisia, where the tatooine scenes were filmed, by glassing their cities, destroying their ecosystem and probably hauled off what little surface water remained. Of course, we are basing this “history” on a interpretation of multi-millennia old tribal oral tradition, in other words, a myth. For all we know, the Tuskin’s descended from colonists that where drawn to the planet because early surveys suggested that Tatoonie was a proverbial goldmine of world waiting to be exploited only to find nothing of much worth, the Rakata probably thought the same. That or they descended from a race that the Rakata transplanted there to mine the world bare, and there never was a substantial population nor much of a biosphere.
One thing missed from the part on Arrakis is that the spice which pervays everything from the sand to the air on that planet is addictive. Once you have lived there you can no longer be apart from the planet without having a ready supply of spice with you. This was missed in the older film (I haven't seen the new one yet so I don't know if it is in that). This is something that is mentioned in the book.
@@Eucep Only read the first one (its great, read it), and I don't think it's mentioned in there, but according to wikipedia Arrakis is in the µ Mu Draconis system which is about 89 light years away from Earth at current. Assuming people did space travel the old fashioned way for a while, they could've reached Arrakis by sublight on a generation / sleeper ship. It may have taken 8-9,000 years at a good clip, but it's certainly reachable, and events in the Dune universe take multiple tens of thousands of years.
It was originally settled during the time of the sentient AIs, which could do faster than light better than the navigators iirc, before they were almost wiped out during the buttlerian jihad. (It's covered in a prequel trilogy, which I mostly enjoyed)
In mine (opinion) the Martian society (or its government) was trying its best to hide their problems behind the 'we're united in one goal' banner while the reality was way more messed up than anyone NOT in high places knew...look at how a LOT of governments around the planet are RIGHT NOW...thats humanity for you... But the gate opening exposed the discontentment into anarchy and then betrayal from high posts in its military and government. Humans with 1300-2000s mentality with 2400 tech...yep...The Expanse IS undoubtedly the most HARD Sci-fi series right now...maybe ever. Especially in the human mentality department... IMO we don't deserve the Stars UNLESS we become better to EACH OTHER (as a especies) FIRST.
Maybe somebody who has read more of the books can correct me, but I don’t believe that spice was used as a gas (15:35) that allowed for interplanetary travel, but that it gave the spacing guild navigators the ability of foresight so that they could navigate the stars. I’ve read the first book and watched the 2021 movie several times. So it might be from the ‘84 version of the miniseries
That's pretty much correct, the Holtzman Engines allow the space folds but to do it safely you need Guild Navigators to guide you, who use an inhalable form of spice to get their visions.
Arrakis is a paradise compared to Frank Herbert's ultimate hell hole planet Dosadi. As for planets with deadly aliens, Avalon, in Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's Legacy of Heorot, is the ultimate paradise planet with a deadly secret. I'd love to see either of these brought to the screen by someone as talented as Denis Villeneuve.
Harry Henderson's Deathworld is the worst hellhole planet in science fiction that doesn't have fantasy elements.. Litteraly the entire planets weather, flora, and fauna is deadly. All the plants and animals have evolved to kill humans, even grass.
I was expecting some Dune content to come with all the attention to the franchise right now. Honestly with just the first movie and political organisation, you have materials for a few solid world and lore videos. The tactics and weapons could also benefit from your insights.
I mean you say worst home planets and I just think Tuchanka, homeworld of the Krogan in Mass Effect. Well known for its dangerous life forms, most notably the thresher maws, and may even be the home planet of them given the legends surrounding Kalros. There’s also those fire spitting insecticide life forms you encounter in 2. Those are just what we’ve seen in game. Krogan biology itself is a sign of how dangerous the world was, even before they nuked the entire planet. They wouldn’t have evolved natural armor plating and redundant organs otherwise. As Wrex puts it: “it may be a pile of radioactive rubble, but it’s our pile.”
At first because of the censoring beep, I heard "Today, I'm gonna shit a home planet!" And my reaction was like : "Wow, American Ben sure does trust his butthole!" 😅
I'd say Gallifrey is a pretty bad place, even if you're a Time lord, you could still have your whole time line destroyed or a war started with temporal entities that just want to cause paradoxes. Looks beautiful but to live there 3/10
@@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 Romana 3 also created the 9 himeworlds during the war in heaven but the Enemy still managed to destroy them even though the Time Lords were in a Time War stance
Sera from Gears of War even ignoring the Locust. Under the surface is a the kryll which are basically flying piranha's, Imulsion a parasitic life form that can twist anything into freakish mutants, giant sea monsters, giant land mosnters, giant worms that can sink cities by moving moving (implied to be two more still out there post GOW 2) heart leeches, then there's the weather with razor hail that can cut right through armor, wind flares that are giant tornado's that can appear randomly and without warning that shoot lightning all over the place. And a native population so belligerent that despite being brought to the brink of extinction several times still find it in themselves to disagree with each other at gun point. Fun fact Sera spelled backwards is Ares.
@@GenerationFilms That's right, It is a trilogy. Harry Harrison also wrote the "Stainless Steele Rat" series (I recently re-read, and... they haven't 'held-up well' I think.) And most famously he also wrote "Make Room, Make Room", better known as "Soylent Green".
How about the Givin's homeworld of Yag'Duhl? From Star Wars, their planets super harsh tidal patterns actually strip the atmosphere from whole continents at a time, forcing the Givin to develop insane mathematical abilities to better predict the tidal patterns and an exoskeleton so tough they can survive several hours in vacuum.
More Ships you could live in, They Need a Classification like The Camper ship in spaceballs, Call em Camper-Ships, or Like a House Boat, House-Ship, MobileHomes? SpaceHomes? Something like that.
I feel like it's more boat classification territory. You can live on pretty much any boat or ship with a lower deck, which is pretty much any boat or ship bigger than about 30 feet. I feel like it's probably a given in most Sci Fi that any spaceship that isn't a Starfighter is some sort of home as well.
Personally I would have ranked Earth at the top, due to every time it has been depicted as some kind of Bridgeport-esque New Jersey funded toxic hellscape combined.
An interesting bit in regards to Tatooine is the reason it ended up a desert shithole was because in ancient star wars history, one of the species that essentially held Hegemone over the galaxy firebombed/nuked Tatooine into glass due to a rebellion which is why Jawa's and sand raiders are a thing, they are both 2 descendent species based off of 2 different ideas of survival from the original species that lived on the planet when Armageddon arrived.
Thanks for the video! Got to be great full for more hospitable planets. I personally would give the Sardaukar home-world a honourable mention, being as harsd as it is. Catachan (AKA space Australia) isn’t exactly pretty place either. So is Protoss Aiur after some bugs came to hang out.
There's a lot of pretty awful homeworlds out there. Suggestions for a Commenter Edition follow-up, assuming American Ben can talk his way out of his latest visit from the Inquisition: *-Char,* the adoptive homeworld of the Zerg of Starcraft. As one observer put it, "If Hell ever existed, this is it. Oceans of fire, tectonic storms, and an atmosphere that'll burn a man alive." *-Fairy,* _probably_ the homeworld of the alien JAM of Yukikaze. At least, that's a best guess; it may just be a staging ground for the JAM's invasion of Earth, or even a sort of Potemkin village or elaborate simulation, as the JAM try to figure out what humanity's whole deal is. It's really not entirely clear. *-Kharak,* a sort of cheat entry since it wasn't _technically_ the Kushan people's actual homeworld. But it had held their civilization long enough that their records of Hiigara were reduced to vague legends about getting kicked out of a paradise in the dim past, so I'd count it. Either way, Kharak was a dying desert planet so resource-poor that the Kushan could afford either a space program or buying themselves another few centuries, but not really both. *-Klendathu,* homeworld of the Arachnids of Starship Troopers. It's an ugly planet. A Bug planet. A planet hostile to life as we know - [transmission ends abruptly]
Dude! You didn’t feel that Crematoria isn’t #1? It’s literally a hell planet with a prison. How about Coruscant? A planet entirely paved over with no agriculture? No green plant life? That would be hell to me!
Crematoria is only a “homeworld” in so far as it’s prisoners and guards currently live there. Where as the term “home world” commonly refers to your planet of birth or where you grow up.
Suggestion: # Earth - in space battleship Yamato # Oa in the DC universe. It is designated as the center of the universe, meaning every would-be conqueror wants to go there # Earth in the DC Universe. Damn does it get many alien visitors # Every formely inhabited planet in Sector 666 of DC. No one escaped the manhunters. # Remus in Star Trek. Even before exploding
I feel as if Gallifrey should have been on this list. Once a paradise, but now decimated. Vulcan should probably also have been included Alderaan didn't fare too well either...
M6117 is probably transitioning in its habitability. It seems to be a moon in a weird system, and is probably slowly loosing its magnetic field and/or atmosphere, possibly due to declining tidal flexing, gravity sucking atmosphere into a nearby larger planet, or a decaying solar orbit of either itself or its host planet.
I like this list. The first planet I could think of that maybe should’ve been part of the list is the earth from space battleship Yamato as basically like or possibly even worse than the 40K earth it was horribly ravaged and almost incapable of sustaining life, it is implied that if left alone the earth will heal but the state it is in for most of the series isn’t very good at best
I would like to suggest Qo'noS, the Klingon homeworld, is a bit of a hole. The entire planet is infested with volcanoes and lava. It has huge storms, foul weather and gagh. Gagh alone makes Qo'noS one of the worst planets EVER!
@@ascii7085 The mere sight of gagh always gives me an out-of-stomach experience which I very much doubt could be overcome by any measure of culinary skill. It reminds me far too much of my grandmother's disgusting tripe!
New Jersey, Connecticut here. Again I formally demand that you take Bridgeport back. This blight rightly belongs to you and you alone. Long have you fostered this cesspool of rot and toxic waste and we shall have it no longer!
Your review of Krypton was based on information many would not see as canon. In other storylines, Krypton was destroyed when its sun went nova. Regarding The Expanse, Mars would be a tough place to live, but I think the Belters on Ceres had it worse.
Runners up: 40K- Catachan, jungle world where every life form is trying to kill including frogs that release poison that will kill anything in several kilometers. Cadia- Nice planet, unfortunately parked right in the middle of the only safe route out of the Eye of Terror so routine invasions of literal Hell spawn are common and all people are considered under arms, and then it blew up. Dune: Geidi Prime, over industrialized hell hole run by hedonistic nut jobs. Star Wars: Nal Hutta, take Geidi Prime, add swamps and Hutts, I'd rather take a hot day surviving Dromund Kaas over Nal Hutta. Fallout- Earth, radiation, mutant creatures, power armored groups constantly at war, oh yeah sounds like a good time, also another settlement needs your help.
Nal Hutta. Homeworld of the Hutts in Star Wars. It’s a half mud ball, half swampy and total toxic industrial wasteland of a planet. And the Hutts love it.
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Tuchanka Radioactive hellscape personified. Homeworld of a warrior race named the Krogan. A race so destructive and agressive that they pretty my much went _"Say we just invented nuclear weapons ,how about we just use them all the time to make our constant battles even more bloody."_
Is it earth? I feel like it's earth. I mean I just woke up and read the news today... really feeling like it's earth. I mean that or what ever planet ET came from. You have FTL spaceships and are still such naive idiots? Yeah what ever problems we have, there's obviously something far worse happening there.
Who says they're nieve idiots? You think they're dumb because they don't know how to communicate with us, or got sick from a disease they hadn't encountered? I think ET deserves a lot of credit. He created a transmitter to reach out to his ship for rescue with nothing more than our proverbial 'stone knives and bear skins.' He actually learned how to communicate with some humans for help. Most importantly, he managed to escape being imprisoned or killed by the clearly toxic species that lives here.
Pandora from Frank Herbert's The Jesus Incident is probably the worst. Scarce resources, and every life form on the planet is designed to kill you in the nastiest ways possible. And that was before it became even worse... Second worst would have to be Skaro from Doctor Who.
Something tells me that the next video is going to be about the glory of the one and true God Emperor Of Mankind. And if you look close you'll probably see the muzzle of a lazgun sticking into frame.
Ferenginar is pretty crappy. It rains all the time. The only thing to eat is snuff-beetles. And for a world based on commerce where you would expect people to live in houses that show off their wealth and make a Trump casino look understated by comparison, the homes and ships are pretty drab and shabby.
The only issue Mars had in the Expanse was the threat of war... until the *ring gate opened. Their society was built on a dream that became irrelevant overnight. *Ring gate = thousands of unexplored planets that, even starting from scratch will be habital long before Mars is.
"Nobody can expect the Spanish Inquisition!" Tatooin is not a desert planet because of the binary stars. That planet was a lush jungle planet, almost like Kashyyk. Then the Rakata devastated it thanks to an insurgency of the natives against their despotic rule.
The worst planet of all in SciFi has to be Earth, because there are probably more stories about an Earth future that is absolutely bloody horrifying or just really not a nice place to live. One of my favourite is the future in "Mortal Engines" where Earth was devastated by the 60 minute war that used weapons that could create mountains and volcanoes and shift tectonic plates and which eventually lead to people becoming desparate enough to build huge vehicles to live in which would due to the lack of any resources prey on each other to survive.
On #7 you mention that the two suns are the reason the tattooine is barren. The actual reason is because the planet was basically glassed long ago. It used to be a lush world. The jawas and Tuscans used to be way more advanced.
So, I stopped this video at 0:01 to predict the #1 worst home planet in sci-fi is going to be the Earth. Not IRL Earth, but the Earth you see in sci-fi movies & games. Because a lot of sci-fi seems to revolve around Terrans needing to go into space because we f-ed up the Earth somehow - or, like in Titan A.E., the damn thing gets blown up by aliens - so I'd say the Earth isn't really loved very much in sci-fi. It's almost like they're intentionally trying to plan out what we should or could be doing when the Earth is but a memory, or warning us what could happen if we continue wrecking our own sh*t.
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You forgot one; ANY world "The 100" ever set foot on.
One second thought, I know you have been avoiding that whole mess, and I congratulate you on that.
Keep up the good works!
I believe Arrakis is the homeworld of the Fremen, not House Atreides. I think Caladan is the homeworld of House Atreides.
according to the novel....yes, Caladan.
Well… to be pedantic, _after_ the events of first novel/film, it is _now_ the Homeworld of the Atreides, going on in perpetuity till [ **spoilers** ]
@@casbot71 is Arrakis now their homeworld or are they just the administrators? Wasnt Giedi Prime still the Harkonnen homeworld while they were administrators on Arrakis?
@@susanwojcickisnicetwin Caladan was the ancestral HOME of House Atreides...Arrakis was their fiefdom, given to them as a good ol' Greeks Present (quite poetic since the Atreides were the descendents of ancient Greek nobles...)by the Emperor.
SPOILERS...of a book that is older than me (Im 40...)the book was launched in 1965...seriously... it's not spoiler anymore...
But after the events that happened in Dune, Paul made it the Capital Planet of the Empire AND House Atreides settled it as it Homeworld. They even had to re-conquer Caladan while the Jihad happened.
@@ryusuken973 so during the events of Dune, Arrakis is not the homeworld, that didn't happen until after Paul became emperor.
40k Guardsman: "BioRaptors are hurt by light? Our flashlights are finally useful!"
I would attach a literal spotlight on my gun
@@grantt1589 also known as an underslung lazgun
@@yanisbaker881 a shotlasgun if you will
I feel that Cybertron would have worked on this list because that planet is so war torn that the transformers themselves had to leave because it couldn't support them anymore.
Didn't the story go that the Autobots were forced off Cybertron by the Decepticons and then they went back to live there again, following which the planet was then totally destroyed? TBH I am well out of touch with it as when I was a kid it was just Gen 1 and Dinobots followed by the super cheesy movie where Optimus Prime gets revived.
@@jameslewis2635 due to multiple cannons existing currently the habitability of cybertron varies
I'd say Skaro would be high on any list. Centuries of War and radioactive fallout, the survivors of each faction forced to steadily resort to more and more primitive weaponry. Eventually leading to the creation of the likes of the Daleks and the Varga plant.
the energy this channel and generation tech gives is what we need
I'm also couldn't resist to mention, but yes, Caladan is the homeworld of House Atreides, not Arrakis
I think technically the house spent more time on Arrakis than Caladan if you include the entire series of books, the Atredies empire originated on Arrakis, but just the house was Caladan for sure. It could kinda go both ways honestly, it depends on how you look at it.
Right, Leto II. spent over 3000 years ruling from Arrakis so you can make the argument for either planet, depending on the date.
Tatooine was inhabitable once, a verdant jungle... Then it got glassed. Not sure what happened to the water when this happened though.
The Tuskans who were a slave-race at the time somehow got the blame from the Rakatan Empire for the plague that cut them off from the force, and most of their tech and so they glassed the planet with what little of their force-requiring tech they could still operate.
Somehow the proto-tuskans were able to survive in the dense networks of caves around the planet despite these being too shallow to survive an attack that reduced more then 90% of the surface to molten silicates... These survivors would eventually speciate into the religious zealots of the Tuskan Raiders who rejected the technologies of other races descending into a more primitive state, and the Jawa salvagers who embraced it and just ended up wandering junk traders.
The reason everyone crashes there is because it exists at the end of a number of very long hyperspace routes, making it essentially the point where a badly damaged or broken hyperdrive's emergency safeties will toss out anyone traveling in that direction along said route.
Not sure what happens if they do not emerge, but considering it is dangerous to the minds of most sapient beings to directly observe... I suspect being stranded in hyperspace means you die horribly somehow.
It's not obvious what happens to ships trapped in hyperspace - unlike space hulks in 40K, we never see them again, so presumably they continue plowing blindly along in hyperspace until they get disintegrated by running into a mass shadow - but that's for the ships themselves. As for the crews, it's assumed that they generally off themselves if they can.
There was an exceptionally dark moment in Legends toward the end of the Black Fleet Crisis books, where a particularly nasty war criminal gets himself stuffed into an escape pod with a couple months' rations and a holdout blaster, and cast adrift while the ship is in hyperspace. The group doing this to him explains that they'd been researching ways to drop guided missiles from hyperspace, but had never figured it out; all they'd managed to learn was that even droid brains go crazy, when they'd launch from the ship and realize they couldn't transition back to realspace as intended.
@@tba113 ... Well I suppose this means I was not wrong. Since going insane and blowing your brains out would suck, starving would suck, and the mass shadow is the quickest out so...
Yeah might not be 'horribly' but certainly die.
It probably had a relatively small population to begin with. Just large enough to cause problems for the Ratana in that sector. When they rebelled, the Rakata did to them what the Romans did to Carthage, which was in Tunisia, where the tatooine scenes were filmed, by glassing their cities, destroying their ecosystem and probably hauled off what little surface water remained.
Of course, we are basing this “history” on a interpretation of multi-millennia old tribal oral tradition, in other words, a myth.
For all we know, the Tuskin’s descended from colonists that where drawn to the planet because early surveys suggested that Tatoonie was a proverbial goldmine of world waiting to be exploited only to find nothing of much worth, the Rakata probably thought the same. That or they descended from a race that the Rakata transplanted there to mine the world bare, and there never was a substantial population nor much of a biosphere.
One thing missed from the part on Arrakis is that the spice which pervays everything from the sand to the air on that planet is addictive. Once you have lived there you can no longer be apart from the planet without having a ready supply of spice with you. This was missed in the older film (I haven't seen the new one yet so I don't know if it is in that). This is something that is mentioned in the book.
Never read the books, but did they also mention like, how they managed to get to Arrakis in the first place if spice is needed to even get anywhere?
@@Eucep Only read the first one (its great, read it), and I don't think it's mentioned in there, but according to wikipedia Arrakis is in the µ Mu Draconis system which is about 89 light years away from Earth at current. Assuming people did space travel the old fashioned way for a while, they could've reached Arrakis by sublight on a generation / sleeper ship. It may have taken 8-9,000 years at a good clip, but it's certainly reachable, and events in the Dune universe take multiple tens of thousands of years.
@@Eucep they had faster than light is was very dangerous i believe 1 in 5 ships could not reach their destination after they banned computers/AI
It was originally settled during the time of the sentient AIs, which could do faster than light better than the navigators iirc, before they were almost wiped out during the buttlerian jihad. (It's covered in a prequel trilogy, which I mostly enjoyed)
In my opinion from the shows depiction it appears Martians didnt have its disloyalty and crime until AFTER the ring gates were found.
Right, the Martian identity and culture didn't deconstruct until that damn gate open.
In mine (opinion) the Martian society (or its government) was trying its best to hide their problems behind the 'we're united in one goal' banner while the reality was way more messed up than anyone NOT in high places knew...look at how a LOT of governments around the planet are RIGHT NOW...thats humanity for you...
But the gate opening exposed the discontentment into anarchy and then betrayal from high posts in its military and government.
Humans with 1300-2000s mentality with 2400 tech...yep...The Expanse IS undoubtedly the most HARD Sci-fi series right now...maybe ever. Especially in the human mentality department...
IMO we don't deserve the Stars UNLESS we become better to EACH OTHER (as a especies) FIRST.
Maybe somebody who has read more of the books can correct me, but I don’t believe that spice was used as a gas (15:35) that allowed for interplanetary travel, but that it gave the spacing guild navigators the ability of foresight so that they could navigate the stars.
I’ve read the first book and watched the 2021 movie several times. So it might be from the ‘84 version of the miniseries
That's pretty much correct, the Holtzman Engines allow the space folds but to do it safely you need Guild Navigators to guide you, who use an inhalable form of spice to get their visions.
The 1984 movie also explained it this way, just nowhere nearly as well as the new movie.
Arrakis is a paradise compared to Frank Herbert's ultimate hell hole planet Dosadi. As for planets with deadly aliens, Avalon, in Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's Legacy of Heorot, is the ultimate paradise planet with a deadly secret. I'd love to see either of these brought to the screen by someone as talented as Denis Villeneuve.
Harry Henderson's Deathworld is the worst hellhole planet in science fiction that doesn't have fantasy elements.. Litteraly the entire planets weather, flora, and fauna is deadly. All the plants and animals have evolved to kill humans, even grass.
@@mcclintick Sounds like somebody took inspiration in Australia.
Commoragh should have beaten out Terra for the wh40k entry
I was expecting some Dune content to come with all the attention to the franchise right now. Honestly with just the first movie and political organisation, you have materials for a few solid world and lore videos. The tactics and weapons could also benefit from your insights.
You're right, we should have done something. Maybe we still can. Thx for the kick in the ass. 🙌
I mean you say worst home planets and I just think Tuchanka, homeworld of the Krogan in Mass Effect.
Well known for its dangerous life forms, most notably the thresher maws, and may even be the home planet of them given the legends surrounding Kalros. There’s also those fire spitting insecticide life forms you encounter in 2. Those are just what we’ve seen in game. Krogan biology itself is a sign of how dangerous the world was, even before they nuked the entire planet. They wouldn’t have evolved natural armor plating and redundant organs otherwise.
As Wrex puts it: “it may be a pile of radioactive rubble, but it’s our pile.”
Gods they dropped the ball on this one
If you have to develop secondary organs just to survive on your planet you know things are fucked up
@@darkhope97 actually they dropped four balls
@@Spartanunit5 Haha well played
At first because of the censoring beep, I heard "Today, I'm gonna shit a home planet!" And my reaction was like : "Wow, American Ben sure does trust his butthole!" 😅
I'd say Gallifrey is a pretty bad place, even if you're a Time lord, you could still have your whole time line destroyed or a war started with temporal entities that just want to cause paradoxes. Looks beautiful but to live there 3/10
To be fair galifrey is usually protected vy the transduction barrier and quantum forcefield
@@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 Romana 3 also created the 9 himeworlds during the war in heaven but the Enemy still managed to destroy them even though the Time Lords were in a Time War stance
I was surprised that the death world of Catachan didn't make the list.
Or Space Vietnam/Australia
What about Barbarus, poison mists, necromancers
Sera from Gears of War even ignoring the Locust. Under the surface is a the kryll which are basically flying piranha's, Imulsion a parasitic life form that can twist anything into freakish mutants, giant sea monsters, giant land mosnters, giant worms that can sink cities by moving moving (implied to be two more still out there post GOW 2) heart leeches, then there's the weather with razor hail that can cut right through armor, wind flares that are giant tornado's that can appear randomly and without warning that shoot lightning all over the place.
And a native population so belligerent that despite being brought to the brink of extinction several times still find it in themselves to disagree with each other at gun point.
Fun fact Sera spelled backwards is Ares.
... a planet names after ares, thanks for the info makes it all seem a bit more coreherend and also a bot funny.
I'm a fan of Harry Harrison's "Deathworld".
As always thank you so very much for the video.
As always thx for watching. I'm not so familiar with The Deathworld Trilogy but it looks interesting.
@@GenerationFilms That's right, It is a trilogy. Harry Harrison also wrote the "Stainless Steele Rat" series (I recently re-read, and... they haven't 'held-up well' I think.) And most famously he also wrote "Make Room, Make Room", better known as "Soylent Green".
How about the Givin's homeworld of Yag'Duhl? From Star Wars, their planets super harsh tidal patterns actually strip the atmosphere from whole continents at a time, forcing the Givin to develop insane mathematical abilities to better predict the tidal patterns and an exoskeleton so tough they can survive several hours in vacuum.
More Ships you could live in, They Need a Classification like The Camper ship in spaceballs, Call em Camper-Ships, or Like a House Boat, House-Ship, MobileHomes? SpaceHomes? Something like that.
I like The Idea of calling them Camper Class Ships.
I feel like it's more boat classification territory. You can live on pretty much any boat or ship with a lower deck, which is pretty much any boat or ship bigger than about 30 feet. I feel like it's probably a given in most Sci Fi that any spaceship that isn't a Starfighter is some sort of home as well.
Wouldn't Salusa Secundus, home of House Corrino, aka the Emperor's own house be a better choice for the book Dune? It's where the Sardukuar originate.
Yeah it would be
Personally I would have ranked Earth at the top, due to every time it has been depicted as some kind of Bridgeport-esque New Jersey funded toxic hellscape combined.
The Xenomorph Home planet from the AVP comics is the worst
Doesn't take a genius to figure put why either
This madlad cant not do a heresy for even a single video
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An interesting bit in regards to Tatooine is the reason it ended up a desert shithole was because in ancient star wars history, one of the species that essentially held Hegemone over the galaxy firebombed/nuked Tatooine into glass due to a rebellion which is why Jawa's and sand raiders are a thing, they are both 2 descendent species based off of 2 different ideas of survival from the original species that lived on the planet when Armageddon arrived.
Thanks for the video! Got to be great full for more hospitable planets.
I personally would give the Sardaukar home-world a honourable mention, being as harsd as it is.
Catachan (AKA space Australia) isn’t exactly pretty place either.
So is Protoss Aiur after some bugs came to hang out.
You were so extra in that ad. Love it!
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There's a lot of pretty awful homeworlds out there. Suggestions for a Commenter Edition follow-up, assuming American Ben can talk his way out of his latest visit from the Inquisition:
*-Char,* the adoptive homeworld of the Zerg of Starcraft. As one observer put it, "If Hell ever existed, this is it. Oceans of fire, tectonic storms, and an atmosphere that'll burn a man alive."
*-Fairy,* _probably_ the homeworld of the alien JAM of Yukikaze. At least, that's a best guess; it may just be a staging ground for the JAM's invasion of Earth, or even a sort of Potemkin village or elaborate simulation, as the JAM try to figure out what humanity's whole deal is. It's really not entirely clear.
*-Kharak,* a sort of cheat entry since it wasn't _technically_ the Kushan people's actual homeworld. But it had held their civilization long enough that their records of Hiigara were reduced to vague legends about getting kicked out of a paradise in the dim past, so I'd count it. Either way, Kharak was a dying desert planet so resource-poor that the Kushan could afford either a space program or buying themselves another few centuries, but not really both.
*-Klendathu,* homeworld of the Arachnids of Starship Troopers. It's an ugly planet. A Bug planet. A planet hostile to life as we know - [transmission ends abruptly]
Dude! You didn’t feel that Crematoria isn’t #1? It’s literally a hell planet with a prison. How about Coruscant? A planet entirely paved over with no agriculture? No green plant life? That would be hell to me!
Crematoria is only a “homeworld” in so far as it’s prisoners and guards currently live there. Where as the term “home world” commonly refers to your planet of birth or where you grow up.
Lol, that advert was fantastic. Glad you are back from break. How's English Ben doing?
Suggestion:
# Earth - in space battleship Yamato
# Oa in the DC universe. It is designated as the center of the universe, meaning every would-be conqueror wants to go there
# Earth in the DC Universe. Damn does it get many alien visitors
# Every formely inhabited planet in Sector 666 of DC. No one escaped the manhunters.
# Remus in Star Trek. Even before exploding
I have a feeling there's gonna be a lot of wh40k planets in this list
I feel as if Gallifrey should have been on this list. Once a paradise, but now decimated.
Vulcan should probably also have been included
Alderaan didn't fare too well either...
Alderaan? Good thing we took pictures on our vacation there!
13:00 HERESY! It's a dystopian administrative hellscape!
M6117 is probably transitioning in its habitability. It seems to be a moon in a weird system, and is probably slowly loosing its magnetic field and/or atmosphere, possibly due to declining tidal flexing, gravity sucking atmosphere into a nearby larger planet, or a decaying solar orbit of either itself or its host planet.
I like this list. The first planet I could think of that maybe should’ve been part of the list is the earth from space battleship Yamato as basically like or possibly even worse than the 40K earth it was horribly ravaged and almost incapable of sustaining life, it is implied that if left alone the earth will heal but the state it is in for most of the series isn’t very good at best
I would like to suggest Qo'noS, the Klingon homeworld, is a bit of a hole. The entire planet is infested with volcanoes and lava. It has huge storms, foul weather and gagh. Gagh alone makes Qo'noS one of the worst planets EVER!
I mean if Mars can make the list certainly so many others rightfully should.
@@theobsidianodor858 Yeah, and that's with Mars not even being plagued by gagh!
You've just never had good Gagh.
If it's fresh and prepared properly by some one who knows how you'd change your mind.
@@ascii7085 The mere sight of gagh always gives me an out-of-stomach experience which I very much doubt could be overcome by any measure of culinary skill. It reminds me far too much of my grandmother's disgusting tripe!
Honorable mention might be Kronos. Pretty much everything evolved to kill each other. That’s why the Klingons are so aggressive.
That's def not how it's spelled
@@anonymous36247 D'oh! I don't know what came over me! Qo'noS
What about Vulcan? Desert hellscape... filled with Vulcans! :P
If you think _Earth_ in 40K is bad, try _Earth_ in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
You've got to have bypasses.
Why not Tuchanka. Even before being iradiated was a deadly planet.
The Moment when the add is so good that its better than the rest of the video
American Ben: #1Arrakis
Helgan: My world means nothing to you, come visit us.
New Jersey, Connecticut here. Again I formally demand that you take Bridgeport back. This blight rightly belongs to you and you alone. Long have you fostered this cesspool of rot and toxic waste and we shall have it no longer!
Should have mentioned Pyrrus, from Harry Harrison's Deathworld series. True to the name, everything there is deadly. Everything.
"Don't deny science" go go flat earthers.
I would say Geidi Prime is worse the Arrakis.
Also the wave planet from Interstellar would be pretty bad too.
What about mogo the living planet and member of the green lantern corps? Is he a good or bad homeworks?
Your review of Krypton was based on information many would not see as canon. In other storylines, Krypton was destroyed when its sun went nova. Regarding The Expanse, Mars would be a tough place to live, but I think the Belters on Ceres had it worse.
Runners up:
40K- Catachan, jungle world where every life form is trying to kill including frogs that release poison that will kill anything in several kilometers.
Cadia- Nice planet, unfortunately parked right in the middle of the only safe route out of the Eye of Terror so routine invasions of literal Hell spawn are common and all people are considered under arms, and then it blew up.
Dune: Geidi Prime, over industrialized hell hole run by hedonistic nut jobs.
Star Wars: Nal Hutta, take Geidi Prime, add swamps and Hutts, I'd rather take a hot day surviving Dromund Kaas over Nal Hutta.
Fallout- Earth, radiation, mutant creatures, power armored groups constantly at war, oh yeah sounds like a good time, also another settlement needs your help.
Nal Hutta.
Homeworld of the Hutts in Star Wars. It’s a half mud ball, half swampy and total toxic industrial wasteland of a planet. And the Hutts love it.
Pandora from Frank Herbert's Jesus Incident
why has no sold Jawas some hydroponic food systems? Tatooine has crait dagon so it's clearly got a complex ecosystem. just needs more fruit and vege
Cybertron I think could have made the list as it is in constant war and has been pretty much decimated from it
Holy shit, you’re alive!
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KNOCK! KNOCK NEXT TIME!
Yes Sir!
DID YOU SEE ANYTHING?!
No sir, I didn't see you playing with your Spaceballs again!
GOOD!
Good to see you American Ben!
Hiiii
Regarding 3rd place, it was once said, "Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid. In fact it's cold as hell." - a rocket man.
Mandalore has a chunk missing.
Cool Video, man !
YOU CALLED HOLY TERRA BAD!!! THIS IS THE MOST HERETICAL THING I HAVE HEARD ALL MONTH!!!!!! INQUISITION, COME HERE!!!
you really should have included the planet of the aps, water world or the planet that time machine movie takes place on ;)
I'm surprised Skaro didn't make the list
I miss Ben's poetic videos about The Expanse.
I miss the fans who loved them so! ❤️
Tuchanka
Radioactive hellscape personified.
Homeworld of a warrior race named the Krogan.
A race so destructive and agressive that they pretty my much went _"Say we just invented nuclear weapons ,how about we just use them all the time to make our constant battles even more bloody."_
Love the video and how you view it from a how is it to live on place.
I am greatly disappointed that Tuchanka didn't make this list. It is a world of *great* gifts.
Is it earth? I feel like it's earth. I mean I just woke up and read the news today... really feeling like it's earth.
I mean that or what ever planet ET came from. You have FTL spaceships and are still such naive idiots? Yeah what ever problems we have, there's obviously something far worse happening there.
Who says they're nieve idiots? You think they're dumb because they don't know how to communicate with us, or got sick from a disease they hadn't encountered?
I think ET deserves a lot of credit. He created a transmitter to reach out to his ship for rescue with nothing more than our proverbial 'stone knives and bear skins.' He actually learned how to communicate with some humans for help. Most importantly, he managed to escape being imprisoned or killed by the clearly toxic species that lives here.
Dangerous part of New Jersey? Sounds like a place that 18-year-old Mormon missionaries will still happily chat with local folks.
Pandora from Frank Herbert's The Jesus Incident is probably the worst. Scarce resources, and every life form on the planet is designed to kill you in the nastiest ways possible. And that was before it became even worse...
Second worst would have to be Skaro from Doctor Who.
you know, there's still time to delete the video and upload a new version where you don't call Arrakis the home planet of the Atreides.
Honourable mention to Tuchanka.
Heh... Fantastic ad read! Truly Oscar(tm)-material!
Everyone after the rise of skywalker: I hate sand, it’s all because of Ray😂
Something tells me that the next video is going to be about the glory of the one and true God Emperor Of Mankind. And if you look close you'll probably see the muzzle of a lazgun sticking into frame.
Rifts Earth
Ferenginar is pretty crappy. It rains all the time. The only thing to eat is snuff-beetles. And for a world based on commerce where you would expect people to live in houses that show off their wealth and make a Trump casino look understated by comparison, the homes and ships are pretty drab and shabby.
For me Hoth would be the worst planet to live on
Yeah but Hoth doesn't/didn't have a civilization on it.
Shout out to New Jersey 🤘🏼
The only issue Mars had in the Expanse was the threat of war... until the *ring gate opened. Their society was built on a dream that became irrelevant overnight.
*Ring gate = thousands of unexplored planets that, even starting from scratch will be habital long before Mars is.
"Nobody can expect the Spanish Inquisition!"
Tatooin is not a desert planet because of the binary stars. That planet was a lush jungle planet, almost like Kashyyk. Then the Rakata devastated it thanks to an insurgency of the natives against their despotic rule.
The worst Orb to live on is one that has just been Manscaped.
SO many worlds, from startrek could be on this list xD
The worst planet of all in SciFi has to be Earth, because there are probably more stories about an Earth future that is absolutely bloody horrifying or just really not a nice place to live. One of my favourite is the future in "Mortal Engines" where Earth was devastated by the 60 minute war that used weapons that could create mountains and volcanoes and shift tectonic plates and which eventually lead to people becoming desparate enough to build huge vehicles to live in which would due to the lack of any resources prey on each other to survive.
On #7 you mention that the two suns are the reason the tattooine is barren. The actual reason is because the planet was basically glassed long ago. It used to be a lush world. The jawas and Tuscans used to be way more advanced.
Minor grammatical quibble: Loci is the plural of locus, so it would be locus of control.
Disappointed at the lack of Dune miniseries clips. Still, IMHO, the best Dune adaption.
Arrakis is not the homeworld of the Atreides, Caladan is. It is the homeworld of the Freman
So, I stopped this video at 0:01 to predict the #1 worst home planet in sci-fi is going to be the Earth. Not IRL Earth, but the Earth you see in sci-fi movies & games. Because a lot of sci-fi seems to revolve around Terrans needing to go into space because we f-ed up the Earth somehow - or, like in Titan A.E., the damn thing gets blown up by aliens - so I'd say the Earth isn't really loved very much in sci-fi. It's almost like they're intentionally trying to plan out what we should or could be doing when the Earth is but a memory, or warning us what could happen if we continue wrecking our own sh*t.
tatooine, I DONT LIKE SAND!!!!
What's worse, sand or dolphins?
dolphins who can walk on land with heat seeking pufferfish with freaking laser beams on their heads
How to tell me you never read Dune without telling me you never read Dune
Salusa Secundus … I just like the name🤗
Metaluna from This Island Earth deserves an honorable mention, at least from the MST3K perspective.
"What kind of shlthole planet is this???"
It's OK American Ben, I live in St Louis.
Since when was american ben a werewolf?
Edit: 6:04 whats the name of the background music?
Say what you will about living on Holy Terra; You cannot deny how will well defended that planet is.
Errrr true but... is it worth defending? *raises bolter to own head*
@@GenerationFilms Depends...
Try growing up in borgafornia.
What was the series Terra was from. It was hard to understand.
Earth in the Incal, living at the bottom of the Pit cities looks like it really sucks.