Golden So-Flat Paints - HC 342
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2024
- In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through Golden So-Flat paints. These artist paints have amazing potential for us to utililze as miniature paints and many great properties. I take you through their strengths and challenges and how to best use them. Hope you enjoy!
0:00 Intro
1:15 Basics
3:30 Painting
5:30 Interlude
6:20 Advanced Techniques
9:25 Outro
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There you go!
Sad. Autobot destroyed the Link to Golden webside x)
I dint trust you, so i needed to google my self. and wow. didnt know this! insane.
At a bare minimum, get a bottle of the SoFlat black for your victory lap around the rim of your base. Another artist paint line that I like is Golden High Flow, which are a dream to airbrush with because they clean up so easily. They literally saved airbrushing for me. Some other artist tools that I like are silicone paint shapers for smoothing greenstuff and also liner brushes for their great tips. As a bonus, non-artist tool, I would also suggest the little glass jars that Oui yogurt comes in. SoHandy
The Golden high flow I've used is super glossy. They could've called it So Glossy.
Good tips!
@@cbradquillen Yeah, that's a drawback for sure. They're not all like that though.
Use high flow on a zenithal prime also makes a lightning fast single coat shader.
I feel that the gap that a surprising amount of painters have to overcome is the mixing of their paints.
Many similar looking paints can either be different single pigments or different pre made mixes.
The result of this really affects your saturation, just look at whenever you mix Citadel paints and how much darker alot of them become, that's due to the pre made mixtures they have and how more different pigments leads to more desaturation.
A surprising dark horse in this aspect is actually some craft paints, they mix pretty well from some that I've used and are pretty compatible with miniature paints.
Absolutely.
I'm simply happy for the return of Larry the Ogre! It's always good to see him and his large backside getting a new coat of paint!
Larry will never leave us.
I have Jeff the Space marine, he has been many different colours and finishes and a great test model for my airbrushing. He is an essential tool on my hobby desk 😁
Absoluely! Gotta have that test model.
Always good to have your thoughts on a product, and the tutorial is , as always, very helpful for actually seeing the paint in Acton. Thanks very much!
My pleasure 😊
I've been using these for a couple of months, and I really love them. The matte finish is really nice, and they flow beautifully. The black and white are my new workhorses.
Totally agree.
I love every single minute of your videos Vince. You are such a great teacher, out of all the mini painters on youtube I personally think you teach and display what you're teaching the best. Your Advice is always incredibly practical and easy to understand and I love that you almost always show the entire process of what you're doing as opposed to trying to edit it down to be more cinematic. To me, your content feels like it is truly made TO TEACH and your passion for the Hobby really shines through.
Please never stop lol, I love you!
Thank you, that is wonderful to hear, always happy to help and I am not stopping anytime soon. :)
Thank you Vince for sharing your Wisdom - as every Saturday! :-)
Always happy to help.
Good review! I just started using the SoFlat Black recently, and I have been quite pleased by how well I can lay it down.
Excellent. :)
Great timing with the video! I bought these earlier today. Really enjoying the Titanium White's coverage. Got some of the Fluorescents to try on Legion lightsabers. Looking forward for Vince's breakdown.
Always happy to help. :)
I've been using them for a year now. I love the ability to thin them as needed as you said, as well as blend them easily with other paints.
Totally agree!
I'm a huge fan of GOlden paints. Their fluid line is great.
I have been interested in trying these out, thanks for making a tutorial on these Vince!
My pleasure!
I've been using the Golden SoFlats for some time now, they're simply amazing.
Another brand, very close to Golden is Schmincke. I have some of the Aero Total Covers and they are awesome through the airbrush, just like Golden High Flows.
P.S.: Be careful with artist paint through the airbrush, some might have real Cadmium or Zinc inside and you shouldn't airbrush those. Golden puts this on their website and on the bottles.
I second the Schmincke Aero Inks, but for a completely different use. I don't use the Total cover range but the standard range, mixed with Vallejo Metal Color Silver (Chrome will probably work too), in order to get really nice coloured metallics.
i used to do that with Daler & Rowney inks, but with their opaque inks i was losing the metallic shine. So far i've tested 14 inks and all are giving great results. My initial mix was 1:1 but it should work with a lower level of ink too.
Good shout. Have been thinking of trying Smincke inks out as well. The Aero Total Covers sound appealing. Something like the Extra Opaque range from Vallejo (not in consistency but in concept I mean). Pigment density wise they seem like a good deal, because you can always thin them if needed.
Cadmium does a body good. _Paid for by the American Cadmium Association_
Is that Schminke Aero glossy?
@@cbradquillen all artist inks have a glossy finish, so I assume the ones from Smincke as well. The inks that are the least glossy are the ones from Vallejo. Still satin, but because their less glossy finish, easier in use than the alternatives.
Thanks, Vince!
:)
Great, I've been waiting for this review! I bought the black and the white on a whim the other day, and have been enjoying them - good to know it's a solid line for colors as well. Unfortunately I just bought the Kimera base set, so I won't be needing new paint for awhile. Thanks for the review!
Good to see Larry the Ogre back again!
Larry will never leave us. :)
I’ve been waiting so long for this review #hyped
🙌🏻😭🙌🏻
:)
Love review video's you do, Vince!
Thanks!
I've used the Golden transparents for my Dwarven Forge transparent pieces and never thought about using it on minis but the So Flat sounds really cool and worth trying!
Golden Fluid Acrylics are another of their products I’ve tried - very transparent, quite shiny, they are good for going through the airbrush over metals for that type of tinted metal look. At least that’s what I’ve used them for! Definitely going to look out for these flat colours next time I’m in the art store
Absolutely.
I've been using these paints for a little while and they have definitely become a personal favorite. Especially ever since I transferred them to 50 mil dropper bottles.
There you go.
Helpful, Vince, again thanks.
Thanks!
as my mini paints dry out or run out i have been replacing them with golden so flat. i like their hi flo and tranpart lines so it was an easy step for me. I like them and i think their products are amazing.
Totally agree.
Thank you for this video, I just learned about these paints and was curious about how they'd work for minis. Golden's factory is pretty close to where I grew up, and I know some of the chemists who work on developing new products. If you're ever in the area, they have an awesome factory store.
Along with paints, I highly recommend their texture and crackle mediums for basing. By volume/weight, they're far cheaper than equivalent stuff from Citadel or other hobby companies. Plus, you can more easily customize them to fit your needs.
Last, the employees of art supply stores tend to be very knowledgeable, and can help you select paints and other properties.
Absolutely, I've heard nothing but great things about Golden.
Golden paints are bit of a pain to get here in Finland, but there's a small store in Helsinki that has all their ranges. I've been happy with the SoFlats I bought for testing some time back. I mostly use Kimeras now and these two paint lines do work nicely together. I've bought ingle pigment SoFlats to enlarge my Kimera range but still retain the predictability when mixing. Good stuff!
Thanks!
What store in Helsinki sells these?
@@Kamion991 Diverse at Uudenmaankatu 11, almost across the street from Tempera. Hopefully they’ve been able to restock, as there have been supply chain issues across the Atlantic evidently.
Golden make beautiful paint. I have a few bottles of Golden Fluid from my airbrushing days, that are over twenty years old and they're as vibrant and fluid as the day I bought them. :D
Awesome. :)
I love these paints!
Thanks!
One of the transferable hobby pieces I’m working on is a drawing horse. I often feel like I’m at weird angles when I’m painting at a desk, and I love being able to sketch with my hips opened up instead of jammed into my stomach. I’ll try to finish the build this week, and see how it goes.
Nice, good idea.
I really enjoy the paints from Schmincke. First came into contact with their titanium white (for loaded brush) thanks to Ben Komets. Lately, been using their Aero Color Professional line. Definitely recommended.
I'll check it out.
Nice timing, they just got the smaller 2 oz bottles in at my local shop and I was looking at them last night :)
Excellent.
I picked up Liquitex Ultra Matte Medium a while ago and mixing it with my Army Painter paints has really helped reduce the glossiness.
It will absolutely, it's a great option for sure.
The golden high flow is also great through an airbrush! Golden is really a great line and worth the experimentation. IMO they also have some of the best whites and blacks.
Agreed. :)
Thanks for the love!
Hey, Larry's back!
I'm also coming around to realising how useful single pigment paints can be. I was also looking at the extended open time range from Golden, but unfortunately, in the larger sized bottles, they're more expensive to take a random punt on.
Yeah, Larry will never leave us. :)
im in love with this dude.
Larry the Ogre is worthy of your love for sure. ;)
I use quite some paints from the art store. The oil paints obviously, because mini oil paints are subpar. Molotow One4all as primer/base layer. Liquitex acrylic gouache is nice. Heavy body titanium white. Inks by Daler Rowney and Liquitex. And surely some more products I am forgetting now.
If Kimera didn't already replace my old Vallejo and Citadel paints, these SoFlat would probably do it now.
A visit to the art store is very worth it.
Great suggestions all!
abteilung 502 has a line of oils for modelers/mini painters that are better than the windsor and newton oils I get from the art store. the pigment seems finer, makes better washes and tints.
If you want to do some proper painting with the oil paints, not just some washes and filters, you will make your life pretty hard with Abteilung 502 paints.
You do know that most companies sell different grades of oil paints (student/artist)? What you described sounds like a student line (W&N Winton) behaviour
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thanks!
The buzz is really growing around SoFlat lately. Thanks for the info!
Liquitex has a line of acrylic gouache that I've had good luck with as well. Very flat, very opaque, huge colour range, and even comes in dropper bottles. Price/oz is about half of most mini paints from my experience.
How’s the drying time on the gouache paints? I’ve heard it’s supposed to dry fast, but I’m not sure how that compares to mini paints.
@@soberirish83 I consider it about equal to my mini paints in drying time. It's a similar consistency to other dropper bottle paints, so more on the very softbody acrylic end of things.
I'll have to check out the liquitex.
Hey Vince - Thank you for trying out SoFlat!!!
Absolutely! Was a pleasure and some great paints for sure.
Since you asked, I discovered Holbein Fluid Acrylic Color at a store here in Japan, it’s an “artist” line, single pigment and paints beautifully on minis
Multiple people have mentioned them, not sure I can get them, but I'll have to check it out.
Just finished painting a rotbringer sorcerer using only soflat, and some citadel tech paints, even learned a lot about color mixing.
Absolutely!
I've never seen Golden brand paint sold in my neck of the woods. I did find out that the cheap 2 oz bottles of craft paints sold at Michaels and the like are perfectly suited for drybrushing terrain and larger pieces. I especially love their dark metallic Zinc colour.
Absolutely, those paints are so perfect for terrain for sure.
Hey Vince,
I’ve got one suggestion: I’ve got Molotow Liquid Chrome and AK SuperChrome - they’re almost the same when thinned with the AK Thinner, but the Molotow one is a bit brighter in Value - and if not thinned is also reflecting like a mirror, until you touch it. I guess it makes the reflect / gloss sheen less even or so and kills the shine with that so to speak.
Greetings from Germany
I would strongly recommend against using heavy-metal pigments through an airbrush unless you're set up for dealing with hazardous particulates, including a fume hood and a serious filter mask. For reference Vallejo used to have cadmium pigments in several of their warm colors and all of those had a "Do Not Airbrush" warning on the bottle. (Really nice colors, btw, if you can find old bottles. Look in the Spanish name for "Cadmio" or look for the airbrush warning to find them.)
When applied with a brush, these pigments aren't a significant danger (as long as you don't lick your brush, suck your painted minis, or drink your paint water), but the same cannot be said for aerosol heavy metal pigments.
Also, if you like these you might like the Liquitex Acrylic Gouache line of paints, which is quite similar.
Yep, you should always wear a real mask and have proper venthilation for these when airbrushing any of the dangerous ones (better to just do it always), but they are labeled. :)
This is a fantastic area of the hobby to focus on, it feels excellent tools like this are easily missed due to the hobby focus.
The encyclopedic video list is quite comprehensive.
I have been a fan of Liquitex for quite some time, Golden is catching up with them quite well and appears to get better press.
You may want to look into Liquitex's "Ultra Matte Medium" which is a staple for when I am thinning almost any acrylic paint and get a great matte look.
For a strong durable glaze, Liquitex has a medium for that as well, I like how I can get a nice transparency but adhesion is not compromised.
You may want to look at Golden's "Open" paint line for a more oil-like slower dry time.
"Gouache" paint is designed to completely cover with little or no transparency if you want a solid initial coat (with no Zenithal).
The artists paints have such fine pigments (look at acrylic "inks" as well), it cannot be understated that lines like Kimera and these artists paints list their pigments so you can be assured of a good colour match or no strange mixing results due to an unlisted black or white added to a bottled paint.
I am glad you pointed this out in particular.
I too would highlight avoiding Cadmium through airbrush as a hazard but many hobby paints do not list their ingredients so we cannot tell if they are any safer.
Good notes and thoughts all around. :)
I love Liquitex Heavy Body, but you need to play a lot with their density. On the other hand I also love the Molotow colours: they're thin but have a lot of coverage and they are perfect for both airbrush and base tones via brush.
Good suggestions!
I use calligraphy ink in an airbrush, it gives good texture when you use metallic but its also a fun alternative to play with.
Cool idea
I think the only thing you missed out was a comparison with Kimera - they sound very similar, but Kimera are a lot cheaper up front as you're buying half as much paint (the average price/ml is almost the same).
Another paint you might like is Liquitex Acrylic Gouache, it has a lot of the same properties (but has a better bottle!).
While I like Kimera, I find Golden SoFlats more versatile and simply better overall. Also far less stock issues :).
@@SigurdDecroos Could be, but a minimal of 60ml is a bit much for us mini painters. Hell even 30ml is a lot.
@@Wijkert it's a lot, i agree. You can always split it with a friend or buy a few important colors to start with. We could also spam Golden paints asking for smaller volumes 🤪.
@@SigurdDecroos Was thinking the same thing about splitting it with one friend or multiple even. Get 20 droppers and split them in 3!
PS I think I actually asked Golden for smaller bottles already ;)
Perhaps where you live, the price to get kimera shipped here is way to expensive and golden i buy right at the art store no shipping.
I replaced all my crummy vallejos with 14 of these, and transferred them into squeeze bottles with precision tips so I can get out exactly what I need as I paint. The plan is to eventually have the full line. Hands down the best paint for my skills. YMMV.
That's awesome.
I started experimenting with Liquitex Acrylic Gouache recently. I've only done a little with it, but it seems promising so far.
I will have to try those next.
I tried Golden interference red for some metallic highlights, very unusual but can add a nice effect.
Going to go back and take another look through the local art stores now. The other thing I had heard of was using pastry bag tips, which are stainless steel, for transferring paints from pots to dropper bottles (I think it was in a Duncan video).
But I'm sure there's other useful things we could find in the stores; cake decorating, jewelry making, clay products, all these other art mediums that involve tiny details. I'm trying to find some tiny mandala circle pin thingers because those might make eyes easier.
I got some 20ml syringes with wide tips, and ldpe squeeze bottles. This stuff is so thick it'll close a dropper bottle opening fast if you open-pour it. Squeeze the air out of the dropper bottle to lower the inside pressure, stick the syringe in, and it'll almost draw the paint into the bottle for you, no mess, no backwash, no overpressure blowing paint around your room.
Interesting.
I highly recommend Golden High Flow Acrylics for the air brush. Amazing stuff.
Never really liked the High Flow, but they are good through the airbrush. :)
@@VinceVenturella that’s all I use them for. I tend to use different paints for airbrush and painting. I never airbrush Scale 75, but use it all the time to glaze.
One nice thing about these paints is that they are the same colors as the high flow acrylics. So you could use them to brush on and use the high gloss for the airbrush and you’d have the exact same colors to work with.
Specially the high flow fluos and transparent oxides are amazing through an airbrush.
LARRY IS BACK!
In many ways, he never really left.
Golden also offer 500ml airbrush medium that is not gloss. Works like a charm
Absolutely
£30 for 6 from Cass Art here in the UK. Cheers for an excellent informative vid.
Happy to help. :)
Just painted my first mini with Golden SF the day before last. I loved it. Excited to hear what you think
Excellent!
@@VinceVenturella I was wonder how to submit to get your thoughts on my work in one of your critique videos. do we email pics?
@@Born_Stellar So I actually don't do that anymore. The PMP is still there and I participate, but I have passed the torch on that to others for the review video (that's just joining the group and submitting). For me, I now have a Patreon focused on review and feedback that has a tier where you can do that.
You reprimed Larry! I was just getting used to his golden boots!
It's the inevitable cycle of Larry. :)
How would you compare those paints compare to Kimera ?
Yes I am interested too
They are very similar to Kimera, one big difference is in base consistency - basically, they are more "liquid" and closer to traditional miniature paint consistency. They are both single pigment often, mix easily and are quite matte.
I believe Kimera are significantly cheaper (if you can find them)
You're the best👍
I recently purchased some of these paints because the nearest game shop that sells miniature paints is 30 minutes away when there's no traffic and I'm tired of waiting two weeks for Amazon to ship my GW paints only to lose them in transit. I have an art store (Michaels) 10 minutes away that sells Golden paints, so if I need something... I get it that day. Now I just have to put on my bigboi pants and get good mixing.
No reason to hold back now! :)
Golden fluid acrylics are amazing
this and the liquitex acrylic guache are the only acrylic paints I use these days (in combination with VMC aluminium, inks and oils). I have found they work similarly and are glorious
transferring them into a dropper bottle is a good idea though
I'm going to have to try the Liquitex Acrylic Gouaches.
@@VinceVenturella strongly recommend, I have found the ranges nicely compliment each other - liquitex have a nice non-cadmium primary yellow, and a quin magenta, which are both lacking in the Golden, whereas Golden Pyrrole red is the best red for painting minis etc etc. They also play together perfectly, having very similar finishes and viscosity
In a similiar vein, holbein acrylic gouaches wet blend and glaze like an absinthe soaked dream.
I'll check it out.
Mr Venturella the tutorials of yours have changed the quality of my painting dramatically. Can you make tutorial haw to paint silk fabric please? Thanks for your great content
Great suggestion! I will add it to the list.
I love that you use a variant of Andrew Loomis illustration bird in the thumbnail!
That's me. :) - That's a little illustration cartoon character I had done of me.
@@VinceVenturella it’s fantastic!
Welcome back Larry! Thanks for the video Vince, a quick question in regards to their "survivability" on a wet palette; do they seperate much after a day or so?
They are prety hydrophillic, so they will get pretty watered down if left over night.
Wish I would have seen this 2 weeks ago. I just ordered the Scale Color Artist paints, but it looks like these would have fit my need just fine. I feel like there's starting to be a move to real artist paints in the community, mainly because the game paints have meaningless names that make it impossible to tell what they are and what color matches in another range. Model paints are also pretty hard to mix consistently. I've been getting into oil paints myself more as well. Oil paints are just so much easier to blend.
Oh yes, when you move to oil paints, it's a revelation.
Vince, Your Airbrush Cup reminds me of the horror in MichaelCthulus Teacup.
Makes sense. :)
I’m looking forward to seeing what the new blue pigment, YinMin, is all about.
Golden makes great stuff and these are exceptional paints for miniatures. For me the price is just too prohibitive. I recently tried Monument Hobbies Pro Acryl and they are more than meeting my needs without bankrupting me. But I can't argue against So-Flats if they are within your budget.
one thing I would like to add, some artist color should not be used through the air brush or licked if your a brush licker as they contain thing like cadium and lead. so reading the label is important.
100% We label very clearly when a color has any risks you should be aware of. As a general rule of thumb though, don't ingest ANY artist grade colors, regardless of the paint maker!
@@GoldenPaints how else am I supposed to taste the rainbow
An older video but I'll add a few great art products for the hobby:
Liquitex acrylic ink. It's satin, but can go straight into the airbrush. Or if you want something to paint with a brush, mix it with an acrylic matte medium.
Golden High Flow acrylics. Pretty much same as an ink.
Daler-Rowney FW acrylic ink. Ditto for ink properties, but I like it better than Liquitex. It tends to be more stable and doesn't pull off as easily.
Good boy mr Vincey Vee! 🥰🐶
Thanks!
Must resist the urge to buy more paints. Have the entire Pro-Acryl line and going to break out the two PurePigment sets from Kimera on the next project. Maybe I should start with the transparent highflows.
The urge for more paints is always strong.
I made a mistake by getting the high flow golden set but hopefully i find a use for them. Now i see the golden soflat have the vincey v stamp of approval ill have to try again and get them.
High flow are wonderful through an airbrush, and work a bit like contrast paints with a regular brush!
Both can be userful. :)
yeah I didn't realize they would be so glossy, but they make great glazes and basecoats.
Currently expanding my collection of So Flats
Excellent.
I’ve started to use artists acrylics (i use liquitex heavy body and scale75 artists) a lot more recently and i love them they make skin colour making such a breeze etc, sadly i cannot get golden so flats locally here in australia (unless i get them from amazon) but im very interested in these paints
They are fun for sure.
I really really love the Golden So Flats I've gotten. Only points of dissapointment: Getting purple from the red and blue was very very muddy. Also, the brown lacked the richness I was hoping for - P3 Umber Brown still holds the champion best dark rich brown I've found.
Totally fair.
Which red and blue were you using?
I love Sennelier heavy body acrylics... Specially the high series... They have such rich color... A bit satin but nothing to worrie about...
Good shout out!
I’ve been painting on canvas with these and love them. Like gouache but indestructible. Not mad on the jars though - hoping someone 3D prints some nozzles for them.
Colour range is a little small - not many pure pigments in the magenta range and they’ve not included some opaque colours like cobalt blue or unbleached titanium that I’d have thought would be crucial. The latter especially for mixing bone colours. Still it’s a young range with a lot of promise.
They are! Hope to see more as you said.
I'm surprised you didn't go for old faithful, Payne's Gray. If FW Ink Payne's Gray was great for glazing in shadows, So-Flat's is that to the Nth degree.
I've only used a few colors, but what I've used, I've loved. I would prefer if they had a titanium buff, like the do in many of their other ranges, but the paints they have so far are great.
Oh, it's one to grab for sure. :)
"spice melange" I hope that was a dune reference and if so based af
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
Welcome back, Larry! I started using the So Flat paints and completely agree with everything you said. I will purchase more colors because they are so versatile and easy to use. Keep those reviews coming!
Edit: What are your thoughts in the fluorescent paints from that range? Worth getting?
I actually quite liek the high flow flourescents, as in that case, they are great because they are quite easy for quick application through brush or airbrush.
When I #vincechop (the og😉), I like to use Golden High Flow Transparents more recently, great alternatives to Contrasts over a zenithal prime or light drybrush. They're kinda glossy, but I'll be Matt varnishing over, in any event. Recommended by Marco Frissoni of NotJustMecha. Ninjon also recently recommended Titan Buff from the opaques of the same line for zenithals, it's on my shopping list.
Excellent.
My artist side thanks you, my cramped painting space is a little less enthusiastic. Ha. Great video as usual.
Totally understandable and happy to help.
Silicone shapers for green stuff, liquitex/daler rowney inks.
Good choices for sure. :)
Amazing video as always! These have been on my radar for a bit but haven’t played with them yet.
I’ve got a few of the Golden High Flow acrylics, which I absolutely love as airbrush ready pints and for all my usual ink applications, but oh boy are they shiny. Have you had the chance to try those as well?
I've used them a little, I didn't love them, but a little Ultra Matte Varnish will do that.
AWSOME!! As usual your timing for me is spot on! How is the white and yellow for chalk finish when thinned down? Still have to play the flow/glaze medium/gloss varnish game? A year or so ago I purchased Kimera(and the expansion when they came out) and learned to mix and play with the Zorn pallet due to Marco. How my painting has improved since then. When army or commissions or eBay, I use the plethora of multi color paints for ease and speed. But if it’s for me and it’s a small squad or group…out comes Kimera. I saw these in one of you previous videos and one of Marco’s and my paint addiction has taking over lol. Yep I started drooling! I am at the point where staying in the it maybe zone is almost impossible. But question is…would I like them better than what I have????? Buy to try isn’t wise. So help me justify and satisfy my addiction!!!! ROFL. Thanks again. Your video production and sound continues to improve and it’s finally coming close to your content value…good for you and us! Thanks for everything!
I like the white okay, though I will say the HBA from Golden I still like more.
Thx
LOL, the ogre's wide, paintable backside is back in the limelight!
It's just a great canvas. :)
HC 343 will be reviewing paint shelves for the 300+ colours we all have at home now 😆
That almost feels like a video I need for sure. :)
On top of cads like people mentioned here, lots of organic pigments aren't regulated as tightly.
Not trying to scare people off painting, but use gloves and respirator when airbrushing.
Yep, absolutely.
I was going to mention Holbein Duo Aqua as a range that I found great for mini painting, especially because of the crazy range of really saturated colors. But then I think I remember you saying you tired it and not linking it?
I haven't tried them and several people in the comments have mentioned them, I'll have to check them out. :)
I am 100% full matte paint fan here. Vallejo was a bit too satin for me, especially when glazing and thinned out. But Scalecolor/Scale75 has been the standard for me when it comes to truly matte paint. Since acquiring the full Scalecolor range, I haven't touched anything else since really. I wonder why they're not as popular as GW and Vallejo.
I suspect it's availability and the consistency difference which does have a learning curve.
Great video, very informative.
Anyone here ever work with Gouache?
It's a opaque watercolour although you need to keep an eye on how it dries it seems* although it looks kind of awesome when it's dry and I think I'll be using it for my Space Elves fabrics mostly although a talented painter could in all likelihood get something amazing out of it via a advanced blending technique since it's really thick but smooth straight out of the tube.
*if it's watered down too much the colour seems to pull away from the edges when drying if that makes sense.
(Applied W & N Designer Gouache Briliant Purple over a Army painter matt white basecoat eldar guardian with a brush)
The pulling away from the edge thing is usually called "tide marks" in mini painting circles.
I have used some Gouache in the past, didn't like it as much, but I will try the liquitex ones soon.
@@stickjohnny Oh it is? Thanks!
@@VinceVenturella Oooh very curious what you make of it, the colour is really deep when it's still wet/just out of the tube.
golden is a great company, and thay do alot for artists and teachers. also there HQ is upstate NY is amazing looking, my mom did an all expens paid residency up there with a group of people last year and it sounded amazing. thay basicly gave them access to every paint line thay had and told them to go nuts, also kept them stocked with good food and wine.
That's just awesome to hear!
'It's really designed for artists.' stares at my hands in thought. 'What am I?'
I ask that question all the time. :)
Don´t know if it exists, but one thing that would be nice with mix paints is a chart for newbies on how to get the different colors.
Ala okay you are used to working with Citadel or Vallejo? fine here is how much of each paint you need to mix to make these different colors.
Also one thing i would say about mix paints (don´t know if you agree or disagree with it) is that they are best suited for single models.
They aren´t really that well suited for armies.
An example okay you have 50 blue uniformed soldiers, you need to paint along with their Tanks and everything.
What would you rather do?
A: Mix those shades of Blue you need and remix it once it dries up or you used it all.
Or
B: Just buy that particular shade of paint from GW, Vallejo or which ever company that already sells those shades of paint you need.
And just take it directly from the pot or tube and start painting.
I recommend you start with the Zorn pallet. Not sure if Vince has a video but Marco does. It’s a great place to start. I have never looked back! Too much fun! Good luck
What would I do? Mix like crazy, because no one will actuallly notice small differences in your paint mixtures, anything close will basically look right, I've don't it on every army I've ever done. :) - But I understand others might find it easier. :)
Do you have any tips or advice on mixing colors, I've been looking into oil paint mixing and their pigments seem to last a lot longer before going grey.
The single pigments will mix more cleanly and produce results closer to what you would expect on something like a color wheel or when mixing in a program or something. As to advice on mixing, my best advice is to use something like a color wheel or similar resource on-line, with paints like these it should be pretty close.
2:01 check!
:)