Have my 128ti 3 years now, hands down the best car I've owned, long term keeper. Chopping in our Karoq for a 330e Touring in the next 6 months, got the BMW bug 😁
Nope definitely not from my point of view anyway, and Irish roads aren't the best! Depends what you're coming from obviously but I find it just firm enough to feel sporty without being harsh.
@@iam_anderdingus Have to say the same, have the 128ti, suspension is exceptional for a performance car as it handles our terrible roads in the UK very well. YEs it is a bit firm but no way is it uncomfertable. Surprised the M135 has 400 nm, same as the 128ti...
Saw one at my local dealer, tell me it doesn't look like a new Focus 🤔 Had the 2022 model for 18 months, nice thing even if the noise was fake. Sporty and safe 300hp with xdrive made for ultimate grip in all conditions like all the other 300hp four wheel drive cars, generic cars
Really sound review Nobby, thank you. I do like your "say it how it is" observations, and as someone in my 50's, who yearned after XR2's and XR3's when I was in my teens, I'm absolutely delighted with my '23 128ti.. I thought your comparisons between the 128ti the new 135 was interesting. Although in Britain, with our decaying roads and often poor weather along with it, in retrospect that extra grip on offer from the 135 is probably worth it, but unlike my 128ti, that takes you well into the plus £40k tax band in England. Seems no mention of a new 128ti though which seems odd. Unlike they'll release that later? Oh, and although the interior looks cleaner, its lack of iDrive is a real deal-breaker for me. Looks like I'll be keeping my 128ti for a very long time.
I had one of these as my courtesy car while my Motech edition M140i was being serviced a couple of months ago. Didn't like it at all, to me it felt really numb and not all that exciting an engine. I am spoilt though, a B58 six pot and RWD on a sorted suspension setup (by Motech) is always going to win out over what is a Mini JCW Works engine. I really disliked all the nannying aids too, lane assist, speed limit warnings etc, I know you can switch them off but you have to do so *every time* you start it, honestly sod that. My verdict, if you aren't tied in to a lease to get in one, try a sorted M140i before you pick up one of these, so much more of a driver's car.
@@jasontaylor5580 Yeah very likely then. I imagine that everything I thought then I would think about the new one though, plus the design has slipped further (in my eyes) with the headlights no longer being level with the grille etc
@@Snowy-666 ….BMW is a premium brand & the 1 Series has always been the best selling & handling car in its class & the new F70 model will, without doubt, follow its predecessors with regards to that🤷🏻♂️
@@jonathanlfccortis5006 I have no doubt that's the case. My point is simply that the new models are not as good as the older ones. Swapping out RWD and the six-pot B58 for a numb X-drive system and the engine from a mini doesn't make for an improved enthusiast car.
@@Snowy-666 ….I think BMW have succeeded in their thinking to a certain extent though as there is definitely more interior & boot space in the F40 & F70. But the change to FWD was always gonna be major shock to long term 1 Series owners! But, as I’ve said, I suspect it won’t put too many people off buying the 1 Series. After all, the F40 was the best selling car in its class. The F70 will follow that trend😉
Nice to see a new Mini Cooper based M135. Older rear drive 1 series were really nice to drive but not nice to be in as a passenger and for some small cargo. Both this and Merc A45 are threats to VW Golf R.
Is the build quality better than a Mini? How about the VW or the Mercedes? Minis start falling apart from day one. Mighty big shoes to fill if you're going to beat VW or Mercedes.
@@NobbyOnCars even in comfort mode not sport ? possibly a silly question and idea how big fuel tank is and how many miles you get Isay on dash when tank full Thanks for reply’s mate appreciated
Love all the misinformed comments on power only 300ish BHP Golf is more etc: I had one of these after my M140i and before my G87 M2 and trust me this is a nippy little car and more than quick enough to get you in to trouble either with the law or A&E these will keep with an M4 off the line in the wet and they are a great all round car, correct with your comment that people need to grow up and appreciate these hot hatches and enjoy them before we all get tracked for speed its coming trust me
Don’t like the front end. Lights look rather ugly like the pre facelift F20. Not that keen on the rear lights either with that unnecessary notch on the lower edge…previous car looks better. I’m still very happy with my F20 135i with the epic straight 6.
Exactly way to expensive to be called a hot hatch. These 2.0+turbod cars muscled into the arena with a cheap look at my power attention grab and instead have ruined the bracket for all time eg no more Fiesta ST (an actual Hot hatch)
Nice car!😍 ….& let’s be honest, despite all the daft “Fiesta & Kia” sideswipes…🙄🤣…..this new BMW 1 Series will be the best selling car in its class, just like its predecessors were!🤷🏻♂️👍
Just buy a nearly new 128ti if you can find one as it is 'affordable for the everyman' and same 400nm, around 25HP down on the 135...You are right that hot hatches used to be the affordable fast car for the common man....not anymore.
Mark...I think BMW are the dog's b's! However that grille and headlights... Nope! No thanks! Wrong! Give me the current model front. Nothing against the Focus or Fiesta. God knows we need them back! However BMW the redesign has spoiled the 1 Series. VW Golf R now looks better. Yes interior is better quality. But to see that ugly front daily...eh? No! Pity as this BMW is a hidden gem. Does the Ti still exist?
My God, that's one ugly car. The interior must have cost them peanuts to make, take out the plastic slab and there's just a steering wheel left. BMW turning out some low rent, ugly cars right now.
Just looks like a ford the last model was more like a Mercedes bmw 1 series no longer looks like a bmw oh ye and they are front wheel drive completely lost its bmw identity the best 1 series was by far the f20/f21
Have my 128ti 3 years now, hands down the best car I've owned, long term keeper. Chopping in our Karoq for a 330e Touring in the next 6 months, got the BMW bug 😁
Isn't the suspensions too harsh over bumps? I'm interested in this parcticular model and reading very different opinions on that matter.
Nope definitely not from my point of view anyway, and Irish roads aren't the best! Depends what you're coming from obviously but I find it just firm enough to feel sporty without being harsh.
Just bought a 2024 128Ti and I really like it. Much prefer over the F40 M135i which felt numb compared to the 128.
@@iam_anderdingus Have to say the same, have the 128ti, suspension is exceptional for a performance car as it handles our terrible roads in the UK very well. YEs it is a bit firm but no way is it uncomfertable. Surprised the M135 has 400 nm, same as the 128ti...
Saw one at my local dealer, tell me it doesn't look like a new Focus 🤔
Had the 2022 model for 18 months, nice thing even if the noise was fake. Sporty and safe 300hp with xdrive made for ultimate grip in all conditions like all the other 300hp four wheel drive cars, generic cars
Agreed. In fact from the front I thought it looked like the Kia Ceed GT Line…
Kia ceed
I wish BMW would make a full proper M version of the 1 series to compete directly with the AMG A45 and RS3. We need an M1.
M2 is far better 🤷♂️💪
@@tepes141 We need a proper M1
Im seeing Ford fiesta at the front!
🤣🤣…..try telling your insurance company that!! ……& may luck be with you!!🙏🤣
You need specsavers
Drove one today - won’t be trading our M140i for one of these that’s for sure!
Really sound review Nobby, thank you. I do like your "say it how it is" observations, and as someone in my 50's, who yearned after XR2's and XR3's when I was in my teens, I'm absolutely delighted with my '23 128ti.. I thought your comparisons between the 128ti the new 135 was interesting. Although in Britain, with our decaying roads and often poor weather along with it, in retrospect that extra grip on offer from the 135 is probably worth it, but unlike my 128ti, that takes you well into the plus £40k tax band in England. Seems no mention of a new 128ti though which seems odd. Unlike they'll release that later? Oh, and although the interior looks cleaner, its lack of iDrive is a real deal-breaker for me. Looks like I'll be keeping my 128ti for a very long time.
Not sure of a new 128 but the one you have is 👌🏻
I had one of these as my courtesy car while my Motech edition M140i was being serviced a couple of months ago. Didn't like it at all, to me it felt really numb and not all that exciting an engine. I am spoilt though, a B58 six pot and RWD on a sorted suspension setup (by Motech) is always going to win out over what is a Mini JCW Works engine. I really disliked all the nannying aids too, lane assist, speed limit warnings etc, I know you can switch them off but you have to do so *every time* you start it, honestly sod that. My verdict, if you aren't tied in to a lease to get in one, try a sorted M140i before you pick up one of these, so much more of a driver's car.
so you had one a couple of months before they were released?
You would have had the previous model.
@@jasontaylor5580 Yeah very likely then. I imagine that everything I thought then I would think about the new one though, plus the design has slipped further (in my eyes) with the headlights no longer being level with the grille etc
@@Snowy-666 ….BMW is a premium brand & the 1 Series has always been the best selling & handling car in its class & the new F70 model will, without doubt, follow its predecessors with regards to that🤷🏻♂️
@@jonathanlfccortis5006 I have no doubt that's the case. My point is simply that the new models are not as good as the older ones. Swapping out RWD and the six-pot B58 for a numb X-drive system and the engine from a mini doesn't make for an improved enthusiast car.
@@Snowy-666 ….I think BMW have succeeded in their thinking to a certain extent though as there is definitely more interior & boot space in the F40 & F70.
But the change to FWD was always gonna be major shock to long term 1 Series owners!
But, as I’ve said, I suspect it won’t put too many people off buying the 1 Series. After all, the F40 was the best selling car in its class.
The F70 will follow that trend😉
First glance thought it was a focus ST. Still like it though. I imagine it will be a rare sight on the roads.
Whats the price tag and is worth it ? Don't think so.
Nice to see a new Mini Cooper based M135. Older rear drive 1 series were really nice to drive but not nice to be in as a passenger and for some small cargo. Both this and Merc A45 are threats to VW Golf R.
Is the build quality better than a Mini? How about the VW or the Mercedes? Minis start falling apart from day one. Mighty big shoes to fill if you're going to beat VW or Mercedes.
Your wrong, there are no pops and bangs from the exhaust… it comes from the rear speakers in the door panels
@@Yldarien it’s you’re not your and there is a mix of both.
@@NobbyOnCars no its not, there are no bangs from the exhaust.
Jesus the power is going down again. 322,306 and now 296. Oh and it looks awful!
Ever so slightly slower to 60 too!
I don’t care, I have the F40 model currently, this new model looks even better
@@fruitking6916 ok 🤣
Thats why i'll hold on tight my '18 bmw m140i
@@Andrea18353 it’s still a great car, getting a bit outdated now though
Reminds me of my x2
Got 2023 m135i and is nice. This new ford oh sorry hyundai oh bmw just doesn't look good. I much more prefer my one.
I thought they had stopped making the focus ?
🤣
An actual under the bonnet engine bay shot in a modern car review. Don't see that so often these days. :)
That LED grille 🎄
🤮
What're your thoughts on the DCT in comparison to the previous gen? Also did you notice the 50Nm loss on the previous gen too?
can hang on a little too long sometimes. Hadn’t driven the previous but it felt like it had enough.
I like this car don’t really like the front I gotta see it in person I wonder if it’s more fun than my Kona N
It is
Semi slick?
Nice review 😎👍 whats average mpg without killing it 😄 any idea
I’d say 25 if lucky!
@@NobbyOnCars even in comfort mode not sport ? possibly a silly question and idea how big fuel tank is and how many miles you get Isay on dash when tank full Thanks for reply’s mate appreciated
The 140 makes this thing look like a joke
@@akhilpillay4262 you can shut out loud
Rubbish
Love all the misinformed comments on power only 300ish BHP Golf is more etc: I had one of these after my M140i and before my G87 M2 and trust me this is a nippy little car and more than quick enough to get you in to trouble either with the law or A&E these will keep with an M4 off the line in the wet and they are a great all round car, correct with your comment that people need to grow up and appreciate these hot hatches and enjoy them before we all get tracked for speed its coming trust me
illuminated grill, touch screen modes, auto climate as a pack - what are car makers doing...
Front end reminds me of a Hyundai or Kia
Is it my imagination or does the front of the new Skodas have a better kidney grill than BMWs?
I get that the design is a bit disappointing but in terms of performance no doubt it's an amazing car.
Great fun to drive!
Terrible front end...
Looks like a Ford Focus.
Don’t like the front end. Lights look rather ugly like the pre facelift F20. Not that keen on the rear lights either with that unnecessary notch on the lower edge…previous car looks better. I’m still very happy with my F20 135i with the epic straight 6.
Looks like a 116 from the front 🤷🏻♂️
Love the new Kia ceed❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂
I’ll stick with my MK8 Golf R
They should have gave us a B58 atleast 😭
Exactly way to expensive to be called a hot hatch. These 2.0+turbod cars muscled into the arena with a cheap look at my power attention grab and instead have ruined the bracket for all time eg no more Fiesta ST (an actual Hot hatch)
2-litre engine for that price🤔
I run a 3.6, unless you like pouring petrol away, a 2.0 is perfect!
Nice car!😍
….& let’s be honest, despite all the daft “Fiesta & Kia” sideswipes…🙄🤣…..this new BMW 1 Series will be the best selling car in its class, just like its predecessors were!🤷🏻♂️👍
Looks like a fiesta st
40 hp less than a Golf R. Fail
If you believe BMW figures
What is that 😂!
That's a really fast ford focus
So to sum up it's safe, boring overpriced and boy is it ugly
What's bmw doing? Been a bmw fan but you better off getting a golf r.
Just buy a nearly new 128ti if you can find one as it is 'affordable for the everyman' and same 400nm, around 25HP down on the 135...You are right that hot hatches used to be the affordable fast car for the common man....not anymore.
Nice..
Looks like the Kia ceed from the front
All rubbish now due to green bollocks
What kind of non design team has developed this bmw 1?? , it’s a Kia ford opel etc.
Less BHP, less Torque and a front end nicked from Hyundai 😂
Ford should sew BMW for making an identical copy of the Focus
That fake speaker noise is horrible
Mark...I think BMW are the dog's b's! However that grille and headlights... Nope! No thanks! Wrong! Give me the current model front.
Nothing against the Focus or Fiesta. God knows we need them back!
However BMW the redesign has spoiled the 1 Series.
VW Golf R now looks better. Yes interior is better quality. But to see that ugly front daily...eh? No! Pity as this BMW is a hidden gem. Does the Ti still exist?
128 ti discountinued
BMW designs as of recent have been mostly 🤢🤮🤮🤮mixed with 💩💩💩 Talk about self sabotage!!😬😑😑🤦🏾♂️
My God, that's one ugly car. The interior must have cost them peanuts to make, take out the plastic slab and there's just a steering wheel left. BMW turning out some low rent, ugly cars right now.
Ugly and overpriced
Looks LIKE a KIA from the front....
Looks like 💩
This looks like a skoda than a BMW.last year model looked more better than this
The engine sound is god awful. 😢
Front looks awful seats and cabin look ok rear view so so
Looks horrid
I'd rather drive golf 5 tdi on steel wheels than this ugly thing.
Just looks like a ford the last model was more like a Mercedes bmw 1 series no longer looks like a bmw oh ye and they are front wheel drive completely lost its bmw identity the best 1 series was by far the f20/f21
Hideous!! Stick with my m140 I more fun !
Two issues for me
Personally! Looks terrible! Can’t BMW build a handsome car anymore ? Second no increase in power , missed opportunity.
Front end doesn’t look right