The standard the Team has set for their program is phenomenal. I was particularly struck by meeting the ship to Aria date with the late parts to follow. What’s cool is that everyone who’s a part of this will have the accomplishment to carry with them and it will affect everything else they do in such a positive way. Thanks to all for sharing your program! You are seriously earning every bit of the success that’s coming your way, and you’re doing it the right way. Be proud and don’t lift your right foot!
Awesome Telo progress update Drew. So cool to see it coming together. Oddly enough to say I am happy seeing an update video from Telo as I wait for the update video from Aptera. Both excellent vehicles for their intended purposes. I was thinking of ***TeloRaptor*** for the name of the 1st prototype 👍😀👍
3:29 Yes! Yes! Yes! As someone who learned to drive on his father's 1978 Ford LTD Wagon I am very happy to hear that Telo is prioritizing steering feel. Driving is always more enjoyable when I can feel what the front wheels are doing. That's why Darwin has a manual steering box.
If you didn’t know, Telo dropped their configurator last night. They are now offering a single motor 260 mile range base variant that would, if the $7,500 credit still applies, be $34,020. Telo Owners Club is your future…
Oh man, please succeed! Really hope to get one of these trucks in the next couple years. You’ll be in a category of one and I really think there’s a market. And when you’re ready to hire for sales and marketing in the northeast give me a call. Love what you’re doing
Been waiting for the hybrid 4Runner next spring. Need a 4000 lb. tow capacity, so your anticipated weight and tow capacity would work in theory. Went through a Nissan Xtera towing boats before getting the 4Runner. The longer wheelbase and higher curb weight improves the towing experience. I'll be interested in hearing about towing experiences with your prototypes. We have a Lev 2 charger at our camp in the Adirondack mountains in upstate NY (spelled cold and snowy). The estimated 350-mile range would be a must for our 225 mile trip up there in winter; as is the AWD. We have steep ice and snow covered back roads to negotiate getting to our camp in the woods. I'll be interested in hearing your progress. I've subscribed.
Morning! Got the configurator last night and I think your offering of a single motor 260 mile range base machine will be great for a lot of people. I assume you’ll do a video shortly on the options so everyone knows. **I am hoping at some point you’ll provide the option for the cap on the back, which is a must-have for me. Yes?
I would love to have one of these but I live in Canada with a weak dollar (about 70 cents American). Canada has raw materials and cheaper labor. Please consider establishing production in Canada.
Now this is hopeful progress. It seems to be better paced than the Aptera. Much as I would like one, at circa $50k, on a pensioners paycheck, I'll have to pass it by. Best of luck with the Project.
The configurator dropped last night and Telo is now offering a single motor 260 mile range base variant that, if the $7.5K credit still applies, would be $34,020. So far less expensive than the Aptera that won’t ship anyway. How cool is that?
Maybe call the first one Adam and the second one Eve (or Fred and Wilma or Barney and Betty or Homer and Marge or Beavis and Butthead or Bill and Ted) but Bingus is so bad i kinda love it.
Just catching up on some of the shorts, particularly the hitch. Can you elaborate on the precautions being taken to avoid galvanic action between the aluminum and steel components that appear to be in direct contact with one another?
For the hitch specifically, the aluminum is coated, the hitch has an E-coat, and between them we'll likely have a polyolefin plastic sheet. That additionally ensures no contact, and also helps with squeaks that come with chassis flex. Quite a common solution for OEM's, you'll most commonly find them between strut towers and top hats for NVH purposes.
In terms of speed ? I think your wrong Telo has been in the like lot for less time and haven't changed how the would construct the car. The original year Aptera thought they would be only doing low volume runs of boat resin body's. Now they are doing Carbon fibre forged construction.
Telo is assembling a prototype, while Aptera is building their production intent build. To a layman it might look the same, but Telo isn’t anywhere near the production stage of Aptera. 😂
How will the production body shells/components be made and how will these parts be finished? And, I have to ask, will the rear shell/cap be available from the onset of production or does the base vehicle ship first/cap to follow?
Question: You discussed splitting HVAC system due to space constraints etc... Asking this out of pure ignorance: If it's 25 deg. F and a Telo and an F150 2.7L EcoBoost sat outside overnight. "Cold soak". In the AM, which one warms to say 50 deg. inside first and which one defrosts its windshield first? Perhaps it's an EV vs. ICE thing. Maybe not a San Francisco question, but definitely a question I thought of here in New England this morning! Thanks.
We’re gonna bring these prototypes to events across the country so hopefully you can sit in them yourself! But expect it to be slightly roomier than a Tacoma in every angle
Would very much like to know the turning circle of the MT1. Since a focus is metro commercial, turning circle is a big deal. Our F150 SuperCrew is like navigating the Bismarck. Horrible @ roughly 48’. Also shows up when doing U-turns from the left lane. Unless you have a wide median you better have 3 lanes on the other side of it or you have to reverse. Obviously, in parking garages, it’s a train wreck. When catching flights, you really want to be able get any space available, and some it just physically can’t get into. Conversely, we have an Isuzu NPR HD with a 16’ box. It has a turning circle of under 34’. Not a parking garage thing, obviously, but it’s so much easier to navigate it. Even parallel parking is easier than the F150. You can do it in 1 shot if you have 5-6’ more than the length (24 1/2’). This is a day to day thing when using trucks as trucks. It’s real. So, given the anticipated use, can you provide the turning circle? The Isuzu is RWD and has a serious steering angle. The Telo has CV joints so that’s a limiting thing. Hoping you’re under 34’ at least, to go with the size.
With all due respect, a 35’ max turning circle should be a real requirement. - The Mini is your poster child. You should match that. - Many of your res. holders selected “recreational”. So you want to match a Bronco or a Wrangler JL. - On that, a JL is around 35’. I have a JLU @ around 40’, and I don’t think it’s as good as it should be. Then there’s a JLT/Gladiator @ 45’ or so and I see people struggle where they shouldn’t have to. If you have the clearance & the CV angle, maybe make 1 set of short arm uprights and go try a tighter radius version. Let everyone try it. Turning radius is not as exciting a parameter as 0-60, but if you really live with something everyday, it is. On a U-turn, you don’t want to need a lane you don’t have.
On names, back when McLaren was doing the F1, they needed mule chassis to test the engine. They used Ultima’s and named the 2 Edward and Albert. (I’m building an Evo roadster and haven’t named her yet.) Anyway, why not name these after your moms? Moms never get the credit they deserve and women in industry frequently don’t, so how about that? On female names, you know Eleanor for sure… You could reserve an ex-girlfriend’s name for the crash test unit. That’s worth an exception to the mom theme.
Sorry to be boring, but naming each one as seriously as you want to be taken makes sense to me. Also some sense of order. As in “D” or “4” is being crash tested, while “2” or “B” is on tour. So like MT-1G would be indicative of what would be showing up in our driveway. Greater expectation for each Rev.. Or course I would like an MT-1R with the twin 280 hp motors… But a collection of stupid tangential names over time wouldn’t age well in my opinion. Not fun. Not something you want to explain to a potential investor. It’s in the “You had to be there” category. Fun would be autocrossing MT-1F with Hoosiers. If you dare…
So exciting to watch the fetus turn into a human being... I have a question, though: do you guys experience any resistance or sabotage from oil companies? Apparently, once the Telo hits the road, the demand for fossil fuel is likely to drop. That's the true story behind the hysteria from all those EV haters and oil lobbyists. If you have not been fought against yet, are you prepared to respond to the enemy's slander and counter-propaganda?
@@artsmith103 Nope. I have seen all kinds of "criticism" and serving all markets is not one of them. EV haters have a limited set of talking points - that EVs catch fire; that there are not enough charging stations around; that EV production is environmentally unfriendly; that battery disposal hurts the environment, etc. Of course, each one of these "arguments" can be easily disproven in a logical and convincing way. However, those propaganda workers do not usually care about being logical or convincing. All they care about is being loud and omnipresent.
@@Pankratnazar-m1n EVs do catch fire. I'll admit to a little twinge of concern when I charge mine, try to pick cooler, dry weather. I drive over 40 miles round trip to town and don't pass a charger. Fortunately I have gasoline backup so I don't worry about being stranded in sub 0F weather. Everyone but one that I know likes their EV. The people without them are pretty content. Hopefully everyone finds what they need. The left moral agenda promoting EV is the main concern.
@@artsmith103 "EVs do catch fire." ICE and hybrid cars are about 20 TIMES more likely to catch fire than EVs. Here is some statistics for you (takes a few seconds to find): Sweden: In 2022, the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency (MSB) reported 23 fires in 611,000 EVs, which is 0.004%. In the same time period, 3,400 fires occurred in 4.4 million ICE vehicles, which is 0.08%. Australia: In the 2022-23 financial year, there were 2,803 internal combustion vehicle fires in NSW alone, compared to 6 EVs catching fire in Australia between 2010 and September 2023. "The left moral agenda promoting EV is the main concern." I couldn't be farther from pushing the left moral agenda. In fact, I don't mind people being discouraged from going electric. The less EVs out there, the less likely energy companies are to jack up electricity prices, so I can continue charging my beloved Bolt for peanuts.
I hope to see Bingus driving around soon and showing off!!
The standard the Team has set for their program is phenomenal. I was particularly struck by meeting the ship to Aria date with the late parts to follow.
What’s cool is that everyone who’s a part of this will have the accomplishment to carry with them and it will affect everything else they do in such a positive way.
Thanks to all for sharing your program!
You are seriously earning every bit of the success that’s coming your way, and you’re doing it the right way.
Be proud and don’t lift your right foot!
When is the Telo swag coming? Shirts, hats? Would love to show more support beyond the reservation!
Working on it 😉
@@TELOtrucks Don't forget die-cast models, they will sell like hot cakes!
Now this is the video I wanted from Aptera. Awesome update!!!
Awesome Telo progress update Drew. So cool to see it coming together. Oddly enough to say I am happy seeing an update video from Telo as I wait for the update video from Aptera. Both excellent vehicles for their intended purposes. I was thinking of ***TeloRaptor*** for the name of the 1st prototype 👍😀👍
That was a busy 5 minutes!! Condenser + evaporator = compressor = heat pump! What proposed EV doesn't have one ;-)
Good luck Telo, looking great!!
Can’t wait to see the complete vehicle!
3:29 Yes! Yes! Yes! As someone who learned to drive on his father's 1978 Ford LTD Wagon I am very happy to hear that Telo is prioritizing steering feel. Driving is always more enjoyable when I can feel what the front wheels are doing. That's why Darwin has a manual steering box.
Awesome!
If you didn’t know, Telo dropped their configurator last night. They are now offering a single motor 260 mile range base variant that would, if the $7,500 credit still applies, be $34,020.
Telo Owners Club is your future…
I'm thinking that Telo would be an excellent urban postal vehicle.
Excited to see where this is going.
Oh man, please succeed! Really hope to get one of these trucks in the next couple years. You’ll be in a category of one and I really think there’s a market. And when you’re ready to hire for sales and marketing in the northeast give me a call. Love what you’re doing
Been waiting for the hybrid 4Runner next spring. Need a 4000 lb. tow capacity, so your anticipated weight and tow capacity would work in theory. Went through a Nissan Xtera towing boats before getting the 4Runner. The longer wheelbase and higher curb weight improves the towing experience. I'll be interested in hearing about towing experiences with your prototypes. We have a Lev 2 charger at our camp in the Adirondack mountains in upstate NY (spelled cold and snowy). The estimated 350-mile range would be a must for our 225 mile trip up there in winter; as is the AWD. We have steep ice and snow covered back roads to negotiate getting to our camp in the woods. I'll be interested in hearing your progress. I've subscribed.
Yeah we will have 6600 pounds of towing capacity and a curb weight around 4400 pounds! Will keep you posted with all the progress we make
Thank you for looking into steer by wire.
Great seeing progress is happening. Telo go!
Morning!
Got the configurator last night and I think your offering of a single motor 260 mile range base machine will be great for a lot of people.
I assume you’ll do a video shortly on the options so everyone knows.
**I am hoping at some point you’ll provide the option for the cap on the back, which is a must-have for me. Yes?
I would love to have one of these but I live in Canada with a weak dollar (about 70 cents American). Canada has raw materials and cheaper labor. Please consider establishing production in Canada.
BINGUS: Body In Glued Up Stuff
yeah!
It is coming together!!! Thanks for the videos and the content.....loving it!!
Now this is hopeful progress. It seems to be better paced than the Aptera. Much as I would like one, at circa $50k, on a pensioners paycheck, I'll have to pass it by. Best of luck with the Project.
The configurator dropped last night and Telo is now offering a single motor 260 mile range base variant that, if the $7.5K credit still applies, would be $34,020.
So far less expensive than the Aptera that won’t ship anyway.
How cool is that?
Nice!
Music is like John Tesh's 80's Tour de France soundtracks! Funny.
This is epic!!!
Keep em coming!
Awesome video!
Maybe call the first one Adam and the second one Eve (or Fred and Wilma or Barney and Betty or Homer and Marge or Beavis and Butthead or Bill and Ted) but Bingus is so bad i kinda love it.
My Eskie is named Bingsu. Someone misspelled his name once as Bingus- needless to say that nickname stuck around… so you certainly have my vote!!!
Haircut is a lot tighter. Sharp.
Trucky McTruckface
Just catching up on some of the shorts, particularly the hitch. Can you elaborate on the precautions being taken to avoid galvanic action between the aluminum and steel components that appear to be in direct contact with one another?
For the hitch specifically, the aluminum is coated, the hitch has an E-coat, and between them we'll likely have a polyolefin plastic sheet. That additionally ensures no contact, and also helps with squeaks that come with chassis flex. Quite a common solution for OEM's, you'll most commonly find them between strut towers and top hats for NVH purposes.
Motor supplier?
This makes Aptera look like a snail.
In terms of speed ? I think your wrong Telo has been in the like lot for less time and haven't changed how the would construct the car. The original year Aptera thought they would be only doing low volume runs of boat resin body's. Now they are doing Carbon fibre forged construction.
Telo is assembling a prototype, while Aptera is building their production intent build. To a layman it might look the same, but Telo isn’t anywhere near the production stage of Aptera. 😂
On the two prototypes, will one of them have the cap on the back?
And will it be a removable cap (like a Jeep) or not?
How will the production body shells/components be made and how will these parts be finished?
And, I have to ask, will the rear shell/cap be available from the onset of production or does the base vehicle ship first/cap to follow?
0Tel though ♾️Telos🤯
Question:
You discussed splitting HVAC system due to space constraints etc...
Asking this out of pure ignorance:
If it's 25 deg. F and a Telo and an F150 2.7L EcoBoost sat outside overnight. "Cold soak".
In the AM, which one warms to say 50 deg. inside first and which one defrosts its windshield first?
Perhaps it's an EV vs. ICE thing.
Maybe not a San Francisco question, but definitely a question I thought of here in New England this morning!
Thanks.
Will you be using the A/C, heating, for battery temperature management? It will be interesting to see this come to production. Good Luck!
That's the plan!
When will we know how much legroom there will be in 1st & 2nd rows?
We’re gonna bring these prototypes to events across the country so hopefully you can sit in them yourself! But expect it to be slightly roomier than a Tacoma in every angle
Would very much like to know the turning circle of the MT1.
Since a focus is metro commercial, turning circle is a big deal.
Our F150 SuperCrew is like navigating the Bismarck. Horrible @ roughly 48’. Also shows up when doing U-turns from the left lane. Unless you have a wide median you better have 3 lanes on the other side of it or you have to reverse. Obviously, in parking garages, it’s a train wreck. When catching flights, you really want to be able get any space available, and some it just physically can’t get into.
Conversely, we have an Isuzu NPR HD with a 16’ box. It has a turning circle of under 34’. Not a parking garage thing, obviously, but it’s so much easier to navigate it. Even parallel parking is easier than the F150. You can do it in 1 shot if you have 5-6’ more than the length (24 1/2’).
This is a day to day thing when using trucks as trucks. It’s real.
So, given the anticipated use, can you provide the turning circle?
The Isuzu is RWD and has a serious steering angle. The Telo has CV joints so that’s a limiting thing.
Hoping you’re under 34’ at least, to go with the size.
It’ll be sub 40’ for sure 👍🏼
With all due respect, a 35’ max turning circle should be a real requirement.
- The Mini is your poster child. You should match that.
- Many of your res. holders selected “recreational”. So you want to match a Bronco or a Wrangler JL.
- On that, a JL is around 35’. I have a JLU @ around 40’, and I don’t think it’s as good as it should be. Then there’s a JLT/Gladiator @ 45’ or so and I see people struggle where they shouldn’t have to.
If you have the clearance & the CV angle, maybe make 1 set of short arm uprights and go try a tighter radius version. Let everyone try it.
Turning radius is not as exciting a parameter as 0-60, but if you really live with something everyday, it is.
On a U-turn, you don’t want to need a lane you don’t have.
How about Beever? You will have an "EV", a "bee", a "beaver", an "ever" - all in one bottle.
What would be the monthly payments on this truck?
Otelo :) that can be also spelled with 0 beeing the first
Bongus
Bingus??? You'll have to explain that... But sure, why not?
Could Telobi-Wan work?
Telo-Won
What's the price point. Since it's going to be a very small build number.
50k before state and federal credits
Wall-T
Bingus it is
On names, back when McLaren was doing the F1, they needed mule chassis to test the engine. They used Ultima’s and named the 2 Edward and Albert. (I’m building an Evo roadster and haven’t named her yet.)
Anyway, why not name these after your moms? Moms never get the credit they deserve and women in industry frequently don’t, so how about that?
On female names, you know Eleanor for sure…
You could reserve an ex-girlfriend’s name for the crash test unit. That’s worth an exception to the mom theme.
Great update (and haircut), terrible name. Why Bingus?
Sorry to be boring, but naming each one as seriously as you want to be taken makes sense to me.
Also some sense of order. As in “D” or “4” is being crash tested, while “2” or “B” is on tour.
So like MT-1G would be indicative of what would be showing up in our driveway. Greater expectation for each Rev..
Or course I would like an MT-1R with the twin 280 hp motors…
But a collection of stupid tangential names over time wouldn’t age well in my opinion. Not fun.
Not something you want to explain to a potential investor.
It’s in the “You had to be there” category.
Fun would be autocrossing MT-1F with Hoosiers.
If you dare…
So exciting to watch the fetus turn into a human being... I have a question, though: do you guys experience any resistance or sabotage from oil companies? Apparently, once the Telo hits the road, the demand for fossil fuel is likely to drop. That's the true story behind the hysteria from all those EV haters and oil lobbyists.
If you have not been fought against yet, are you prepared to respond to the enemy's slander and counter-propaganda?
I bet there is not one substitive example of what you say. Main EV criticism is they don't adequately serve all markets as Left likes to pretend.
@@artsmith103 Nope. I have seen all kinds of "criticism" and serving all markets is not one of them. EV haters have a limited set of talking points - that EVs catch fire; that there are not enough charging stations around; that EV production is environmentally unfriendly; that battery disposal hurts the environment, etc.
Of course, each one of these "arguments" can be easily disproven in a logical and convincing way. However, those propaganda workers do not usually care about being logical or convincing. All they care about is being loud and omnipresent.
@@Pankratnazar-m1n EVs do catch fire. I'll admit to a little twinge of concern when I charge mine, try to pick cooler, dry weather. I drive over 40 miles round trip to town and don't pass a charger. Fortunately I have gasoline backup so I don't worry about being stranded in sub 0F weather. Everyone but one that I know likes their EV. The people without them are pretty content. Hopefully everyone finds what they need. The left moral agenda promoting EV is the main concern.
@@artsmith103 "EVs do catch fire."
ICE and hybrid cars are about 20 TIMES more likely to catch fire than EVs. Here is some statistics for you (takes a few seconds to find):
Sweden: In 2022, the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency (MSB) reported 23 fires in 611,000 EVs, which is 0.004%. In the same time period, 3,400 fires occurred in 4.4 million ICE vehicles, which is 0.08%.
Australia: In the 2022-23 financial year, there were 2,803 internal combustion vehicle fires in NSW alone, compared to 6 EVs catching fire in Australia between 2010 and September 2023.
"The left moral agenda promoting EV is the main concern."
I couldn't be farther from pushing the left moral agenda. In fact, I don't mind people being discouraged from going electric. The less EVs out there, the less likely energy companies are to jack up electricity prices, so I can continue charging my beloved Bolt for peanuts.