[My Next Car] McLaren 12C Test Drive
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For the latest test drive as part of the My Next Car series, Tony and I head up to John Holland Cars to check out their McLaren 12C. We were unaware that the car in question had actually been tuned to 750hp and had an after market exhaust on it but we were still very excited to try out the car. Incredibly, John Holland also had a McLaren 570S in stock - a car which I am obsessed by. It was interesting to see the back to back visual comparisons.
Thanks to Supercar Driver for helping to arrange the day.
For more information on Tony and Gravelwood Car Sales;
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The door failure at the start doesn't exactly inspire confidence...
They all do that, soft close doors are easily installed.
Niall neither does the emblem on the bonnet.
Niall I feel like he's only willing to deal with that just to try to keep up with his friends who have the good supers cars just to be able to say that he has a super car like them
BINGO !!!!
That was my main thought through this entire vid.
It was a sign of problems to come.
Na he just gay and literally cant pull a door closed
This has GOT to be your next supercar. 750HP, amazing performance, great color etc. What more could you want.
reliability?
Will Will yeah a maserati or an 10 year old ferrari is better
statesidesupercars doors that close, reliability, resale value, the list goes on
Tech Holder the mc is an well ingenieured car sry for my english
It has more miles than my moms car.
When's the Accent test drive? Oh wait I forgot it's out of your budget.
Hyundai Accent Fan Club ooHHHH
Hyundai Accent Fan Club Hyundai Accent with a turbo
Hyundai Accent Fan Club You were funny at first... Now you are just annoying...
Hyundai Accent Fan Club nailed it.
not funny must try harder
I prefer the mp3-12c; It's music to my ears!
tragic
Jack1138 I like the m4a-flac too!
If you could stretch your budget towards the 12c that would be amazing and if you could remap yours, put a IPE exhaust on it that would be CRAZY! MO VLOGS TITLE CRAZY!
stfu
Fk Movlogs
Dv H keep that in your head assholoe
Anish Patel listen kid how can you like someone that lies to his 'fans'
Fuck you fucking sap mo vlogs gtfo
Watch Rob spaghettis video on these, I'd stay away
Aidan red Yeah, those service costs were insane. If Sam can't get some sort of "TH-camr discount" it will be a money pit.
Ian Hobday so just get a warranty?
Warranties don't cover everything, and McLaren service is outrageously expensive. Everything has to be done by McLaren too as parts are not available otherwise. They're amazing cars but the 12C is dirt cheap for a reason, unfortunately.
Agreed, ownership of a 12c can become a total shitshow
Ian Hobday Mclaren servicing isn't bad at all, they are easily daily supercars.
Buy a F430 or any ferrari. We all know you dont want a boring audi
jaja or a Gt3 would be sweet
jaja boring audi sure.... I would love to drive any “boring” Audi
Audi rs2
F430 test drive video coming soon
The F430 is even more dated than the 12c imo
U want excitement, get a Morgan 3 wheeler then. Lol
agreed :)
minibus1351 shut the fuck up they're dreadful, if he wants fun he needs to an unlimited c63 amg
Haha
Seen Through Glass one of my dad's friend is selling his 540c if ur interested message me back
superspeedersRob made a nice video about the McLaren MP4-12C called McLaren MP4-12C Cheap For A Reason? and talking about some of the problems the car has.
Head and shoulders over the R8 for fun and a sense of occasion.
I sold mine after my battery died. alternate battery from BMW was $872.00 and that wasn't compatible for electronic so I had to buy one from dealer. battery cost $ 3155.00 because its lithium ion and it died again voiding warranty due to not being faulty battery. after $ 725.00 in diagnostic, it turned out to be faulty ignition switch keeping battery on. total including new ignition switch, batteries, diagnostic work, labor and misc charges, total of $ 11,582.17. now I drive Ferrari F360 F1 spider. much happier and hate to say it, it performs better. Just ordered Lambo Huracan and both of car takes battery like normal cars. just a thought and not hating.
francis brown sounds like rob spaghetti
francis brown Were none of these issues ever recalled ? If not McLaren dropped the ball badly
Cars Of Colorado yeah i think hes been watching too many of his vlogs😂😃😁
Please dont get a 12C, its boring and u cant do much to it
Supercar Club it's a beautiful bit of engineering though
Supercar Club well now there adding twin turbo kits and body kits for these car one company is so far but there a bit late.
A beautiful bit of engineering with a bit of big problems, like the electric systems and the steering column for example. It'll just be too expensive for Sam, especially when (not if) something goes wrong.
Supercar Club It's about as far away from boring as you can get. Fast, comfortable, sounds great and looks great. Plus it spits flames. Best car for the money.
BORING?? What's wrong with you lol? I would say Porsche's, & Audi's are boring...
From what I've read, as long as you pick a car with an ending VIN number above 1200 or so, you can avoid a great deal of the issues related to the early cars.
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Nice comment!
amapolishplummer Thank you my lamb
TGE TV I love you daddy.
TGE TV wow emojis could bring you that many like... im amazed rn
true love
The 570s is "just out of reach" because you wasted however much money on a bloody fiat 500
Harry Shingleton he loves wasting money then cry about his budget
Harry Shingleton he rapped his red car red
I think this sums up supercar ownership and perhaps car ownership in general . It's not always the BEST car you fall in love with , the R8 probably beats the 12C in almost every aspect going yet you can tell Sam has instantly fallen in love with the car. It's just "that feeling" you get when you connect with something :)
sell your Abarth, the car does not fit in as a daily. it is uncomfortable, not practical, far to small to do day to day activities in, and does not really driver properly. sell it and contribute most of it towards your supercar. The whole point of a daily is to be comfortable, easy to drive, practical and generally easy to live with. What is the point of buying a super if the abarth is as unconventional as one? buy like a used audi a3 /s3 or even a golf r. Those are one of the best cars that come to mind that fit into a daily and as sporty and fast at the same time. Don't buy something as crazy as the abarth because buying a supercar will serve no purpose
the helper of the peopledems Or just keep the money and have just the abarth. Much better option
Owen Wales I don t really want to see his abarth all the time to be fair. I don't think sam wants that either
the helper of the peopledems He could sell it and get the 540C it's a better daily driver than the abarth
I really don't get the point to buy an abarth at 30k+ which is a lot... he could be able to afford a MCL540 ...
People dem*
That moment when you see into the future and realize this is what you'll be collecting. *Look, it's even red.*
I think 12c looks much better than 675LT
illuminati LOOMINATI CONFIRMED
illuminati you should get your lasik appointment moved forward..
illuminati yes, maybe if you're blind.
Tony's laugh is probably the best thing about al these videos :)
Insane car for the money. Definitely keep it up there on your top 3!
Go on son! Get the 12C!
would still choose the r8 over this.
VEOTech Boring
LOOK NO BRAKES Nope. German ;D
VEOTech as would i for sure. The building quallity of the audi is way better!
naaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Yep
12:59Tony..."if this car goes wrong your'e going to have to sell your leg"😂😁😆
You guys are so entertaining, great to see you both enjoying yourselves in the videos
Sam the 12c is a past supercar you should buy the audi r8 v10 plus or if you want to buy a McLaren so look for a 650s
the carnama cars 650s is way too expensive. I think he should save up, wait till the spring and buy 540/570
I say sell the Abarth as it doesn't suit a daily driver as its impractical and get a second hand Audi s1 or something and put the rest of the money towards a 570s or something
Leave McLarens for the next of your next Sam. 570c could be within your reach in a year or two.
Inner Hammer 570c ??
typo, thanks
Such an amazing car
this is the test I've been waiting for!!!
The passengers belly wobbling when the car bumps is so funny 😂
Sure must be nice being in the driver's seat, but from pure looks, it's a tad bit boring, especially the front. Just an opinion though from a random commenter.
Eric Ortiz compare it to a GT3 or an R8, this is not boring at all
Thijs Messemaeckers Just different tastes. I actually quite like the looks of the GT3 and R8.
***** I know people have different tastes, but you can't really call this car boring... especially not when compared to a 911 GT3 and an R8
Tony . What a legend😂
WTF IS THIS, HE GOES PROM REVOLUTIONARY SUPERCARS LIKE THE 911 GT3 RS AND R8 2016 TO THIS THING! THE MAC IS HAVING ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS AND IN WINTER WONT EVEN START THATS IF YOU CAN KEEP A CAR MORE THAN 9 MONTHS AND NOT GET BORED!
Tomas Sviridovas when did he test a gt3 rs?
Fucking dumbass fanboy. Look at the hydraulic suspension in this car, and carbon monocoque that STILL ferrari cannot put in their V8 cars.
Have fun spending an e46 m3 to just change the battery...
CBon fuck you!
john m 911 started the iconic supercars and audi r8 was the first everyday supercar which revolutionionised the market of supercars! Mercedes makes mclaren engine and body parts, also Ferrari and vw owns Lamborgin, Bugatti etc
Wow. Tony is so excited. I'm sure he smiled once (i'll have to watch the video again because I think I missed it)
the 570s is better in my case
dflash88 well this is in Sam's case
dflash88 he can't afford one.
i got the point just using my right to speak my thoughts
dflash88 which is irrelevant in this case isn't it. Everyone knows it's better so why state the obvious?
Ya sadly outside his budget. There is a retrofit for the doors tho so no biggie there.
I probably love McLaren even more than you do, but I think you should get an R8. Just because of the reliability issues of the 12C. (or get the 540c if possible. That would be the most awesome thing ever)
The R8 isn't as fast as a 570s, but it's also not as expensive. And it's not just an everyday Audi. It's an Audi R8.
It's the same as calling a Ford GT "just a Ford", or a Camaro "just a Chevrolet".
Animiles don't compare the camaro to the ford ft, corvette would make more sense but still incomparable
Vincetagram I'm not comparing those cars. please read John M's comment and my comment once again and think about it for a second..
The R8 bores him. I still think he should get a 540c or a 570s. I hope he gets either of them. The newer Mclarens are more reliable.
I seriously do hope he'll be able to afford a 540c. But he most likely won't be able to. I think the 12C would be amazing to drive and it looks a lot better than the R8, but it's not reliable. So what other option is there available? The R8 is "top 3 on his list, if not top 2 on his list". And throughout the whole video he looks excited to me. So why would you say that it bores him? I wouldn't be surprised if he'd choose the R8 to be honest.
i don't know why but watching your videos just put a smile on my face. keep it up
Great to see you on my local roads 👍🏻👌🏼
value of this car is going down like a STONE, when P14 comes out you will loose a lot of money, and you said you want something that wont depriciate in value much.
I Know but considering Mclaren will produce new models every day lol it will depreciate even more my friend. Even Lts depreciate
Ricky Samayoa Agreed, these are around £115 used and won't go much lower before starting to appreciate.
Think about why the previous owner has sold this thing. He invested some amount of money and made this car an absolute monster. And I can easily see he had tons of fun. Super fast, super comfy and you can get very special ""supercar" feel all the time.
However, I can also easily see he had tons of pain in the ass at the same time. The reliability. Problems and issues could hit you at any time. Probably the door issue was not the only one. Hey, that car must have been fully inspected by a dealer with good reputation and it still has those freaking doors! I can easily see how the owner got fed up with everything and decided to sell it.
If you want to use it strictly as a weekend supercar, maybe it would work and work wonderfully. Even if you have a problem or two you can just send it to some smart people and wait for them to fix it. But if you want to use it more like once in a few days and especially bring it to your occasional long trips which could be for days like the Modball, it simply wouldn't work.
McLarens could be your *next to the next" supercar. McLarens or a 458 probably.
Inner Hammer They are very easy to live with. Soft close doors are a must, you just need to get used to slamming them otherwise. The people who buy these cars new tend to change cars regularly anyway, there's not always a reason other than fancying a change.
I've always loved the 12C, definitely my favorite McLaren, including P1. And this car is exactly my dream. The perfect red, a magnificent exhaust, and a remap, if necessary. But oh my god, this car is perfect
I have never heard something so good
Leave the McLaren brand to Tim, he's got it well covered. I'm not sure I'd watch 12C content from you if right next door I can find 675LT content. I would, however, adore having someone from one of these major channels purchase something or other that's Italian. Seeing as to that your daily is Italian, and that you have a passion for the world's greatest supercar brand, I think you should buy your next car from, well, you know what I'm going to say. Ferrari! F430 test drive video, I have a feeling, will be the last of this series. Your next video would be announcing a tour of Europe in an F430! How does that sound, mate? Think about it, Ferrari... THE Ferrari... prancing horse... priceless racing experience... Italian flare and passion... every human emotion designed, sculpted, and formed into a single machine. Doesn't that sound like more fun than some Porsche, Audi, or even McLaren?
It will be interesting to see the 430 video. I think that it should be your next car Sam, decent reliability, beautiful to look at to drive and to listen too won't depreciate that much and at the end of the day, its a Ferrari. And I think that's all that matters when someone is in love with the brand like you are, however amazing McLaren are, they don't have the charisma of Ferrari. Its like with your Abarth, many people may say, "but a ... is quicker" but an Abarth is an Abarth for reasons only people who have driven them really appreciate and so is a Ferrari. Go for it Sam
LOOK NO BRAKES well said and ferrari's heritage is untouchable. even though i personally wouldn't buy a newer ferrari because to me it's the typical choice for rich people. like "ohh look i'm rich i need a status symbol let's buy a ferrari'. but maybe that's just me^^
LOOK NO BRAKES the 430 won't depreciate, even better if he buys one it could possibly be an investment.
Charlie Davies if it does depreciate, they will probably only go down by 5_10,000 max
Having worked for McLaren building / auditing 12C's, 650S's, 570's, I can tell you, you won't be disappointed. Mega car. Been out in many.
Sam, keep going man. You're winning at life! Loved the video.
Please just test drive the 2017 GTR. I know people say it's boring and not special but for £80000 you get a brand new car that is extremely comfortable and reliable with an all wheel drive system and amazing launch control that does 0-60 in just under three seconds and a twin turbo hand crafted 565 horsepower engine with a really good dual clutch transmission. Also a really nice sounding stock titanium exhaust. You also get good features inside such as leather seats and a revamped interior that is luxurious that you can use everyday and in your road trips to Monaco and such. Please just give it a try just too expand your options.
Moustafa Abdelhamid GTRs are shit, and they're ugly and look the exact same as the old one, it's also got the interior out of a 370z and drives like shit on the roads because Nissan decided to build it to go round the 'ring fast, compared to the cars he is test it looks like cheap, would much rather have a 12c or a gt3 or a 458.
Moustafa Abdelhamid The 12C would annihilate the GTR. McLaren over Nissan any day of the week
Stacey McGrath yeah I hate the gtr
I think you've found the one ^_^
Best car so far. It is the imperfection that makes a car amazing.
Dude you got yourself your dream car. How cool is that! 12C is my dream ride, too. New ones will be always nice but there is something about that powerful monster lol
Just buy a Ferrari we all know you can afford it
vinnyvasquez not the one he wants though
The prices do seem nice. Like you said though, reliability is a concern.
Back in 2011-2013 the 458's and 991 GT3's were catching fire while the 12C's had minor issues.
Michael They did catch fire but they are quite reliable outside of that one huge flaw which they fixed. Moreover, the Ferrari comes with 7 years warranty and servide
# ItsWhiteNoise who buys a supercar for reliability? If you want reliability go Porsche. Stay away from this and Ferrari.
S. - from the 458 to all newer cars ferraris are nearly as reliable as the german cars
This is so funny since I just checked out a 12c at a dealership today and I couldn't get the door to close lol
these two girls are having way too much fun!
HII SAM!!! HOWS THE DAY GOIN MATE!! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
I'm just waiting for the Aston Martin test drive... Sam seems suited for the sport/luxury/GT car plus they have all the practicality he needs etc
they sound, handle fantastically, look great & there's tons of models well inbudget allowing for hmmm further mods if required etc
anyway who really needs 700+ horse power......
I'd go for either Aston or Porsche
also it's good to hear your friend talking some good impartial advice.. ie the mclaren would be a money pit in the making....
either that or sleep with shmee & job done "joking"
Ricky Samayoa we'll see
afterall scl oped for a sport gt over a supercar due to practical, comfort etc
stg has seemingly opted for similar choices.. ie practical & yet fun over overall performance... that increases costs & well would hinder future purchases..
he could buy an Aston & have thousands left... leaving more money in the kitty for a future all-out purchase, which in effect would give him more buying power, again making more of an investment 'resulting in £££££' for the future.
an Aston is a great sport GT car with overwhelming features & usable performance whilst not costing then mother earth, again allowing for future growth.
also don't forget car spotting has been massively effected with the clamp down in London, utube is evolving making it more involving to gain views/subscribers etc so going all out could potentially be a very bad thing... unless ur loaded jww, shmee etc have little to worry about slc & stg don't seem to have anywhere near the funds invade it pours it down "if you follow me"
THIS IS GREAT! HONESTLY! Tuned Mclaren? HELL YEAH!
Holy shit, watching this again 4 years on, yourself and Tony 🤣 oh how much has changed 🤣
Still GT3 or R8.......
Petrol Head or accent
Hyundai Accent Fan Club or this 12C with 750bhp and give a sh** on reliability
i'd get an r8
Please try a 599 gtb even maybe one with HGTE pack...
Never clicked on a STG video faster than this! But I would love to see you in a F430!
Being from Sheffield made it very exciting to see familiar places in this video!
Just buy the 430 ❤️
i hate that 12c for plenty of reason n both the r8 n the gt3 is better......but imagine if Sam becomes a true petrol-head n customize that car in an another level........... will u do that Sam?
Tasnim Ahmed a true "petrol head" leaves cars stock.
minibus1351 a "true petrol head" has his car however he likes to have it
minibus1351 lol not really, in that case jay Leno and ken block aren't petrol heads, you just shitted all over the 1000 hp builds everywhere and said they aren't real car enthusiasts
The 12C is the most usable car out of everything you have tested so far due to its suspension setup and, ironically, a better daily than your Abarth. (not that hard lol) Concerning reliability and price of parts, back in 2011/2012, while the first batch of 12C's were having minor issues related to software and electronics (e.g. sensors being triggered out etc.) Ferrari's and Porsche's were catching fire. Those issues were easily fixed for free. Of course there might have been some people who had bad luck with more serious issues (also due to incompetent drivers), but that was most probably a very small minority, nothing like the issues of the 458's and 991 GT3's. About the paddle shifters, when the 12C was launched the setup was "revolutionary" because you could just press the paddle shifter gently to pre-program and prepare the engine/transmission for the gear change before and then pressing it a bit harder to really change. The interior is minimalistic but could be optioned with leather etc. All in all this is the best package if you don't fancy the R8 V10 Plus, and let's be realistic, you're not gonna find a 540C for 120K that soon. You always have the McLaren warranty just in case. One of the main criticism towards the 12C in the begining was the "lack of emotion", well that was always a bunch of BS, and this video is just another proof. You want a compromise between usability and supercar looks and performance, if you had the money the 570GT would be THE car, but since you can't THIS is it. If you decide to buy one though don't go for this particular one, get a stock one.
That colours looks Georgous
Seriously dont understand the Abarth. sell it so you can afford the 540C. Simple.
Why not a V12 Vantage/599GTB/991 991 Turbo MK1?
Nuno Rosário I think the AM and the 599 GTB is out of his budget beautiful cars though
Callum Penman actually no,I was watching autotrader and they are like at his max budget of 120K
Nuno Rosário really? That's insane
The 599GTB has pretty high maintenance costs. Even the fuel mileage is almost the same as of a Bugatti Veyron, which is the double of his Ex Jaguar FType. They say getting a pretty woman is easy, but it's hard to keep it.
"Fucking hell" in a high pitched voice made me laugh 😂😂
Great series Sam, can't wait for 2017 content.
If this will be your super car, reliability doesn't matter that much, because you wouldn't daily it. But if you want a super car for daily use just get something reliable. R8, 911 etc
With the reliability of 2nd hand 12cs you'll be out of budget after you replace the 3k battery
It’s actually £800. Cool story though.
Just me who thinks the front of the 12c is fucking ugly?
Dont you dare say that. Better than the 650s
fahad alrudidni both ugly haha older mclarens are ugly AF new ones just blow them out the water now.
all the mercs look the same, all the bmws look the same. R8 looks like a Audi TT, etc etc
th3orist yeh 675lt is the best looking mclaren in my opinion.
George C I would still say the p1 but yeah the 675lt is spectacular
Bloody hell, wish I'd known you was here, those country lanes you were on are literally 3 miles away from me, John holland cars is just round the corner from Meadowhall shopping centre. Some fantastic country lanes nearby 👌
Get yourself in an Aston
what aboht s63 or s65 amg coupe?
S65 is the one that is worth it but its 60k above his budget
similar in power but the mercedes Definetly has the big advantage in everyday usability, reliability and practicality. Theyre really not competitors as one is a exotic super car as the other is grand tour sports coupe. Two different purposes. This is more inline with amg gt, Corvette z06, Nsx, Lamborghini inline with supercars & exotics
"S65 is the one that is worth it" LOL how did you come to that conclusion?
BSG do you not understand he's looking for a super car? Not a sedan
Vincetagram S63 could keep up with a supercar and he'll never go over 130
That was fun!
I thought I saw you go flying by my house as I was pulling out and you did!! They are mental, I'm at john holland looking at an AMG GTS tomorrow!
www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/mclaren/540c/used-mclaren-540c-knutsford-fpa-201612200731341 Sam check this 540c out .
Quick Silver too expensive
He said 130k was the top of his budget.
I though it was 120k. I need to watch this past video again.
right away the car barely started then started showing electrical problems with the door open monitor. piece of crap
u mad
tmacfan16 yes, all very well just having the budget to buy one of these but you need very deep pockets to run it😂
mad about what u fucking mongloid
I love tony!! What a legend
nice video Sam. I have been in a 540C and it is a very good car. Wait till next year and buy one when they drop by £10k as it is light years ahead of the 12C in terms of technology and way fast enough for the road
What about a Mercedes SLS?
front end looks dated imo, love tha back side tho
I would love to suggest that car, but he did said he doesn't want a merc
Dream car. I saw a Black Series & I was drooling.
Aaron Hussain boringgggg arab car
Probably to expensive
12C has really bad maintenance costs !!
hahahahaha, Tony's face when you said that the 12C is a top contender xD @12:02
Been really enjoying since the LA series
The "I want a McLaren but can't afford a 570S" car
If you can't stretch to a 540 then you can't afford a 12c. Repair bills alone can easily end up being more than the difference in price for a 540 which you will need to account for.
Tony Marcella exactly, he's letting 750bhp go to his head😂.The 12C is a car that will give you classic buyers remorse, first few weeks, adrenalin rush then after a reality check....if it were me, i would save up the difference, push for a better finance deal or negotiate harder on a 540/570 but buying a 12C 👎👎
To be honest, it's probably a toss up between depreciation on a 540/570 and maintenance costs on a 12. IIRC you can still get the extended warranty on the 12C retroactively, which is obviously a good idea as the car does have reliability issues. It's fairly dear, I believe around 7k per year (for comparison, I paid around 1500 a year for the Approved warranty on my 911), but definitely less than annual depreciation on a 540/570. Look at leases. The residuals on 540s/570s are super low - depreciation on these over 3 years would dwarf any warranty expenses on the 12C. The only caveat might be stuff that's not covered by the warranty as I don't know McLaren's precise terms. Porsche covers pretty much everything.
freeman2344 wouldnt a warranty be void on this 12c if the engine has been modified?🤔
Rob Sevilla
Yes, it would, but Sam wouldn't have to buy this one. Plenty of clean 12Cs on the market and plenty fast enough without mods, obviously.
Defo my favorite so far
that bonnet badge is just gonna stab your fingers to death when you are cleaning the car, shoddy fit on a prestige car I think.
I recommend buying a porsche 964
Mate, don't! The car is so outdated... You should get something newer...
Bitchassnigga how is it outdated. You can see porn on the car with internet
Dude... if you don't get this car, you'll regret for the rest of your days.! Spectacular
I really like this 12C, you should definitely consider it!
The logo on the bonnet, bad closing doors, not much good signs for a car of that price
Reinoud Boeije I agree
I'd take a 458 Italia over this.
Merry Christmas! :) I agree with Tony though, the money you'd spend on fixing a 12C you could of had a 540 anyway. Love the series though, best content yet!!
Awesome Mclaren!
If the power steering goes its like 30 grand to fix...This car's electrical system is horrid.
We know you will take the best option R8 Plus! You will never take that ugly 12C 😀
looks great feels great!
wonderful spec