I Took My McLaren To The Experts To Learn How Broken It Is & We Found $7k In Mods! It’s Broken Too.
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In this video, we take my high-mileage McLaren to the McLaren Experts at Cannonball Garage in Gilberts Illinois. We find issues in the shop and issues on the dyno so needless to say I need to get back to work on this car! Enjoy!
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Its been a while since I've been able to release a midweek video and man does it feel good. Happy Wednesday!
Very welcome surprise! Thank you 🙏
Happy ncbd
Happy days!
thanks buddy keep living the dream
I love when you release videos, I think you have the right amount of projects, the right cars, and just an awesome thing going on. Just wish you could do 2-3 videos a week normally, I just love your content.
How does it feel spending a (former) years’ salary on ONE CAR?
I’m glad your happy Alex, your a good guy but please, DONT LET THE $$$ GO TO YOUR HEAD. I’m seeing your attitude changing a bit, try to keep it in check, remember the harder financial times and how blessed you truly are to be financially stable, have a healthy family, and doing what you love doing. Many people don’t get that opportunity
The only thing better than your Saturday releases are releases on a Wednesday!
Stressing at work today. It's lunchtime, and this video is going to change my mood.
@@kerrylewis2581 Hope you enjoy the video!
@@justinw.7407 I did. The tune surprised me but now we get to see Alex go back.
Agreed!!! Thank you Alex!!!
Amen..! Spend the day on the Autobahn and finally home. What a pleasant surprise.
Ivan seems like a real natural in front of the camera. I think I could watch him all day long. He knows his stuff.
Nice helping, Alex. It was apprentice day that day 😂.
What a nice guy that Ivan. You can tell he really knows his stuff and has great attention to detail.
Just two peers, talking to each other with mutual respect. Nice to see.
“Huh, I don’t do pricing!” Like it’s a dirty word! How ‘bout you friggin’ ball park it for me then?
And he knows all about the 'Hot - Crazy' matrix!!
@@andybollen7354 All hail Lord Ivan, warden of the McLaren!!
@@mikedemarchelier9090 probably not a got idea to ball park a job by eye knowing McLarens are finicky to work on.
Think Ivan was being diplomatic...
I stopped going to a garage when there is nothing obviously wrong with my car. One time I thought I had scored a great deal on a Volvo XC70. Bought it for 3k. All was working well. I thought I'd just get a quick check at a Volvo dealer. They came up with something like 7k in repairs. I ran away all desperate thinking my car was a wreck. But than a friend of mine said: What are you winding about. Everything works. Just drive it and enjoy. I had the car for 2 more years without spending a dollar on it and than sold it for 3k 😂
Like, no oil changes or anything? OK...
Eh while this would work for a 3K beater, I wouldn't recommend this strategy in the long run for most cars. Yes it'll run but cars need preventative maintenance and regular fixes. You can drive on leaking struts but is it safe? You can ignore motor mounts but at one point, you'll start damaging things. That $7K repair bill probably recommended replacement of a lot of parts that needed replacement from a while ago.
@@donmynack Is this what is call sh1t posting? Making yourself out to be an idiot like this? Please explain what failure goes on between your two rude brain cells that you think this is appropriate.
7k is no wreck, go through the list and be selective. I used to have a very tuned and modded VW new beetle, I'd have her checked every 6mo-1yr and just take care of the small stuff before it becomes bigger, bill was rarely over 1k$ including filters, flushes etc. Consider it was a heavily modded and tuned car, driven hard at times, but I always took care of stuff in time and kept on top of it, thus avoidin bigger hits. Biggest was 3k or so, motor mounts, all belts, hoses, fluids, plugs and complete checkup.
Nah, when that old timing belt lets go and totals your engine, you won't be driving and enjoying it. A friend with a garage always talks about the players who come in with their "great deal" BMW or Mercedes, and can't believe the cars show out with $7-10K in deferred maintenance items. Why was it so cheap?
This type of video is why I got into restoring stuff. You can find the same damn parts like a kitchen cabinet latch that works identically to the 90$ manufacturer part. crazy markup
How the heck did you figure out that it was the same part as the kitchen cabinet? Same with the Sentra coil pack. Show us how to cross reference and save cash Alex! Great videos!
@@iketurner1124 it has to be that PR-3 marking on the side of the part was how he was able to find it and match it but No idea how he was able to figure out it was the same without pulling the original one...
@@DenalisGarage Probably looked up the McLaren part online and match it, would be my guess
Part of the reason why I prefer darker interior tones. Way better to keep up without so much visible wear and tear. As stylistic the car seems more up to date, than with an interior with more vibrant tones.
Definitely dark stays cleaner longer then white interior
Dark interiors are definitely timeless
Can't fully explain it, but I really enjoyed this video.
Calm, collected, experienced chap running through something he plainly knows really well.
Great stuff.
Almost to 1,000,000 subscribers. Keep going, you are easily my favorite channel right now.
i can’t believe he doesn’t already have a mil, kinda a shame that many don’t know about this channel
@@jacob1423 the attention span for most people is 10 seconds, Alex puts out long format videos which a lot of us car guys love but average viewers won’t.
That tech seems like an awesome dude. Hopefully we get to see more of him.
DME making McLaren engines go kaboom since 2018.
ROFL... yup... The internet hype and marketing always seems not to include that part in the brochures... Like the time DME (uses M-engineering aka dynospectrum back then) destroyed SS717s car at wanna go fast and it was going clack clack clack and smoking all the way down the airstrip... but SS said it was an oil line and the car was NEVER seen again ROFL... or like the time M- Engineering detonated Feddys 675LT while he was showing off to his friends and they blamed the oil temp and the construction of the motor 🤣or the time M blew up Randy's Grey Mclaren 720s coupe... or that Senna they jacked up the motor on... or this car th-cam.com/video/WK1NysX0ubs/w-d-xo.html ROFL... Oh can't forget Gintani destroying all types of Mclarens like DDE's car when it blew up and caught fire doing rolling burnouts but they thought it was an oil line 🤣 Then they tell a bunch of fast and furious fanboys it's Mclarens fault that their low 9 second stock car exploded rather than take the blame for grenading engines left and right with all types of nonsense promises of e85 1000hp 8 second 1/4 mile rolling burnout antilag map switching.... Oh yeah your shits blowing up fo sho 🤣 Then LSC says in the video that cannonball is the "best mclaren shop in the world" but they can't even get an afr on the old MP4 and they farm out their tune to M engineering on a teamviewer session 🤣 Like bruh ... Then I read these comments and it's parrots and fanboys with all types of theories 🤣 Propaganda really does work... Yeah it's the rod's fault... the same rod that was in the car when you tuned it right? sooo you put in a tune that blew the motor... got it! ROFL
I always respect mechanics that take pride in others vehicles. You can tell Ivan is one of those guys. And the same goes without saying for Alex.
"I don't do pricing" Damn, this guy really does work on McLarens.
One of the best and most satisfying things to do with a used luxury vehicle with genuine leather is to fill in the creases on the seat and have them re-dyed. The seats will look brand new and that look will last tens of thousands of miles if cared for.
As far as the steering wheel, it depends on the car. I've found that some cars it's actually cheaper just to buy a brand new replacement and sell the old one, because you truly get that brand-new car experience with the wheel.
The gentleman who cleaned your interior is a magician, plane and simple! I will be buying some of his products.
This is great. A midweek release while I’m recovering from an injury and not able to leave the house. Thanks Alex!
Well Alex, it's still in better shape than Freddie's P1.😢
Wait a sick Dyno run!!
Where is this car now?
Awesome project! No updates? It’s been 11 months! I’m dying for the ending haha!
The before and after on that white leather - especially the steering wheel is insane!
Beautiful car, I really like the color. I noticed a puff of blue smoke right after the flame came out on both dyno pulls. Anyone else notice that?
The leather reconditioning by Ram (sp) is amazing. He knows is stuff. Way to go🦊
I thoroughly enjoyed this video!! Great stuff, love it all. And those guys at Canonball Garage seem like really nice and down to earth people, with great knowledge.
Keep it up Alex!!
Alex I love it! More please, I’ll watch whatever you got. It’s pure gold to me. It’s a great escape from all the bad things going on in the world. Thank you ❤
I would delete all those codes, reset the ECM drive the car then recheck for those codes a lot of time they do not get cleared out correctly or at all. You'd be surprised that the codes may not come back.
Thank you for taking us along this wonderful experience Alex and Max!
Absolutely love the midweek video, thank you Alex and Max. You are the best!
Glad your able to post a video midweek. Hopefully you can keep doing it! Alex your amazing fuel door switch that cheap! What a mark up! The interior looks incredible! She’s a beauty!
a good mechanic always imparts his knowledge, top work
I looked at the Carly for my Range Rover L322 after your recommendation Alex ,but what you don't say is that there is a yearly subscription which is almost $90 per year on top of buying the Carly unit. I eventually went for a Land Rover specific GAP11D unit. One off price, with plenty of back up so all in all I'm happy .
TH-camr constantly mentions his personal enthusiasm for a certain product that he shows off and name drops at every opportunity, and the product turns out to cost more money than implied?
How shockingly unusual!
(Seriously, I know these channels exist on sponsor money, but sometimes it seems excessive. At least this guy isn't quite as bad (so far) for it as other TH-camrs)
I think it was Jeremy Clarkson that said "Alfa Romeo builds cars to be as good as the can be, briefly." I think that applies to McLaren as well.
Maybe, but McLarens cost a fortune in maintenance, just ask Jay Leno.
I'm crying here, he really said "click" with a box end wrench 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤
I freakin love this series. Way to go man, you've branched out to the supercar world and you're still true to your (GM) roots.
I was totally stressed watching that 2nd run on the dyno with that jagged curve from the 1st run! Great interior restoration!
Good to see them using the guide pin when removing and replacing the wheel.
Too many mechanics think they don't need it..and then wonder why the threads get messed up and the calipers get scratched.
Its great seeing craftsmen at work. Interior detailing and under the hood.
By far my favorite channel. It’s been great to witness your success and how far you’ve come. Keep it up!
Alex you’re a brave man stepping into the McClaren world. Best of luck and great vid!
It’s just a glorified Nissan.
@@longsleevethong1457 What kind of Nissan has a Carbon Tub? Might need to snag one 🤣
@@leepicgaymer5464 was teasing a bit but every mclaren uses the same engine. It’s the Nissan v8 out of the r390.
@@longsleevethong1457
Having a Nissan LeMans racing engine( even though it was designed by TWR, a British Racing Team) can't be a Bad thing, just change them Rods when you want more Power😅
@@markwalton8644 notice on his other videos that regular Nissan parts were working on the mclaren?
Thanks so much for the midweek video! It was a great surprise!
Love the mid week videos!!! Always a treat! Great video. Keep up the great work!!
I would definitely get them to tune it. You have no idea who tuned it or if the engine can handle what they flashed to the car. You don’t want you engine to be added to the destroyed parts table.
Love shops and techs who freely share knowledge. Good stuff
I’ve learned so much with this channel. Keep up the great work.
Can't believe you're almost a 1M subs!!!
Remember I'm one of the OGs from when you made videos about your E55
Alex this was a Great video! Can’t wait to watch you change the water-pump. You need to take her on some really twisty country roads to appreciate her!
Looks like a great garage with awesome people.
Would love to see more videos from there
Love the content as always Alex! You’re one of the few content creators that I will watch every video from start to finish religiously
That shop is amazing. Awesome to have them so close to you.
You're slowly starting to become my favorite TH-cam channel again. It's between you and Cleet now. My son (almost 2) loves anything to do with cars and same here!
Awesome video. Not a huge fan of McLarens but still very informative and entertaining. Ivan did excellent on camera. I'm very picky and I wouldn't mind him working on my stuff (though I don't own a supercar lol).
Great video Alex. Those Cannonball guys are clearly experts and it was a blast watching that inspection.
What a beautiful car! It's design is timeless. I'm looking forward to seeing you fix all the issues and get all that lost horsepower back!
that hand lotion keeps the wedding ring from rusting.
Love all this new content, and the McLaren build. You're one of the TH-camrs who inspired me to grab one of my childhood cars for cheap and start fixing it myself. I'm restoring and hopefully improving an old MR2 Spyder I got for a few grand last fall. So far, everything has been done by me in my home garage. I might have to get someone to weld the custom exhaust, but that's about it. I don't have a welder but it was tempting to buy one and give it a go, but don't have a pipe bender either. Hope to see more of the Eclipse as well! F&F came out during my college years!
It’s crazy how this car even with mods is still 200 whp short of a 765lt. Amazing what ten years of progress Can do.
Nice!!
A clean interior is key to feeling good!
Those guys are serious!!
I love Arne. One of the chillest guys I've ever met
Loving the content LSC ❤❤
Thanks brother!
Another FANTASTIC episode by a fellow Chitown area car guy! I was just at The Bays a couple of weeks ago and picked up a few supplies to detail our 87 Camaro! Really good folks over there!
So STOKED for a midweek McLaren Video!!! Nice 👍🏻 so glad water pump is all for now can’t wait to see it tuned and running smoothly (and safely) on the dyno!
I was wondering what was happening with the race car. Now I think they are designed with job security for all McClaren employees in mind. It was funny when you said you have a repair shop just a half hour from home, and the shop owner says, "Its fate." At least the mystery of after market products has been solved.
Excellent content as usual Alex ! Fixed that baby up for 2 dollars haha , laughed so hard at that. Awesome !
holy smoke the leather guy knows his job damn
Hey Alex, love your show, very impressive! I am a construction plumber and have a solution for cutting open oil filters to check for glitter, I use a large set of pipe tubing cutters and they always leave a clean edge and is very quick to do. good luck Tom V
Those Carly OBD2 are they vehicle specific? Looking on the website they ask you to enter your vehicle. I have multiple vehicles and questioning if I need one for each or if it'll work on all
really good video. Cant wait to see the next one. I know what is going on with the tune, the torque map is incorrectly setup and you are seeing torque intervention. A proper tune and I am telling you the car will make much better power, probably in the region of 650 wheel. I have just finished tuning my 12c myself and its epic.
Great video. Tell that cool ass dude he's a natural on camera, and should start his own channel.
Really no excuse for McLaren skimping with that fuel door latch. I drive a 2017 VW Passat with almost 220k miles and a similar latch that still works perfectly.
McLaren engines are made to perform as they leave the factory.
They need lightness to hit those high RPMs. Try and rev your LS to 9k and I'm sure you will get the same outcome as those broken rods and Pistons from those modified McLaren engines
ROFL... yup... The internet hype and marketing always seems not to include that part in the brochures... Like the time DME (uses M-engineering aka dynospectrum back then) destroyed SS717s car at wanna go fast and it was going clack clack clack and smoking all the way down the airstrip... but SS said it was an oil line and the car was NEVER seen again ROFL... or like the time M- Engineering detonated Feddys 675LT while he was showing off to his friends and they blamed the oil temp and the construction of the motor 🤣or the time M blew up Randy's Grey Mclaren 720s coupe... or that Senna they jacked up the motor on... or this car th-cam.com/video/WK1NysX0ubs/w-d-xo.html ROFL... Oh can't forget Gintani destroying all types of Mclarens like DDE's car when it blew up and caught fire doing rolling burnouts but they thought it was an oil line 🤣 Then they tell a bunch of fast and furious fanboys it's Mclarens fault that their low 9 second stock car exploded rather than take the blame for grenading engines left and right with all types of nonsense promises of e85 1000hp 8 second 1/4 mile rolling burnout antilag map switching.... Oh yeah your shits blowing up fo sho 🤣 Then LSC says in the video that cannonball is the "best mclaren shop in the world" but they can't even get an afr on the old MP4 and they farm out their tune to M engineering on a teamviewer session 🤣 Like bruh ... Then I read these comments and it's parrots and fanboys with all types of theories 🤣 Propaganda really does work... Yeah it's the rod's fault... the same rod that was in the car when you tuned it right? sooo you put in a tune that blew the motor... got it! ROFL
I would definitely look into the oil change interval thing. Mobile 1 claims the filters can almost go about 20,000 miles and the oil easily 10,000 miles. As long as there is no contaminants or it breaking down like natural oil does it should be fine. Older non-synthetic oil degrades under heat where the synthetic doesn’t so you would have to change it every 3000 miles. I tend to change it at about 8K miles instead of 10k just because, but would love to see what Amsoil says about it.
3000 miles, no more no less as the only people telling you otherwise want you to buy a new car or lease a new one every 3 to 5 years, and oil and filters are less than the cost of a new engine, plus also when the engine starts let it do its start up procedure where it automatically revs high for about a minute or two and then drops down to get the oil to the bearings, then drive off
which will probably do more to save the engine in general than anything else.
5k mile OCIs on any engine w/DI. DI tends to cause fuel dilution of the oil - I have seen in many UOAs across different engines, and it's just not worth pushing the oil life in these low bearing clearance engines when the oil is dropping a viscosity grade due to fuel dilution.
3k if you love your car :)
He's tested other brands but here he's comparing blended to full synthetic.
th-cam.com/video/qCsQMpaNmw8/w-d-xo.html
These other guys obviously are not mechanics. The oil and additive packages as well as filters being much improved does make 10k no problem. If you change it every 3k not only is it a PITA but your creating 3 times the waste oil and dirty filters and also means 3 times the production needed. The 3000 started when quaker state sold a non-detergent oil that almost ruined them. remember the "Quaker State Motor" comments and the sludged up engines that resulted?Save your money and the environment and your time. 10k hurts nothing!
Excellent content as always. It’s always a good day when one of your video’s gets released. Thanks
28:55 - 22mpg 😵. My brother's VW T3 auto only gets 18mpg. Time for him to get a McLaren engine fitted.
Small Car Performance just released a swap option for Tesla drive units in the old VW vans. They've got a 450hp P85 unit in their van that makes it look like it's going to lift the front tires while smoking the rears.
Awesome to have a video post on a Wednesday. Is Peter still part of the team ??
Lol.. nooooo
@@colchronic That's too bad. they made a good team. I wonder what happened
@@benjaminlarson6948 check the community post and its comments
Has anyone else ever owned a British car?
Sir it’s about time I had just left a comment on ur CTS? Vid thank u it’s about timeeee🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Friends don't let friends buy Brittish cars.
Road trip to Florida! We need the Tavarish Collab!!! And you and Peter can help with the P1
Yes I do but I live in England.
This company is owned by Saudi and Iranian businessmen..
Another fantastic update. Thanks
Awesome video Alex. I will never stop watching this channel!!!
Ive always loved the MP4-12C, such a simplistic yet detailed vehicle! Great video dude!!
too bad they're much better at being looked at, than being driven/used
If they're so simple, why do they have so many problems?
@@LEOhopeful Because first production car for a company (especially supercars) is a sign to avoid it. Anything on anyones first try is bound to go wrong.
No more McLaren vids?
great ep!... and of course I'll give you a thumbs up ! (for superior flames coverage !!)
Wow, super informative, thanks for the deep dive! Love it
We miss Peter.
What happened to peter?
Please shut up about this. I'm sick of hearing about it.
@@Private011 don't read it then
Obviously Peter is out of a job. Maybe you could start your own channel and give him a job. Maybe Alex will bring him back, but that won't be any time soon. So it does'nt help to chirp in the comments about it either, what ever happened is none of our business.
@@scottsinaz3000 negative attitude
I take it no update on this one?
It's fitting that this shop works on GT-R's because McLaren bought this engine from Nissan. It was designed for their IndyCar program.
you mean endurance racing program
@@Realtime1501 IRL (Indy Racing League), which is IndyCar during the split.
Development. McLaren bought the rights to the Tom Walkinshaw Racing developed engine, itself based on the Nissan VRH engine architecture, which was designed for the IRL Indycar championship but never raced. However, other than the 93 mm (3.66 in) bore, little of that engine remains in the M838T.
@@Realtime1501 You're right. It was used in the prototypes.
@@richardsmith2721yes , the Indy engine was a derivative of the endurance engine that was used by Infinity
What a great group of guys! Can't wait to see them re-tune and dyno her.
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I recommended Carly to someone online because of you Alex. It was for a BMW the guy needed a good computer to check an SRS light but I told them what’s possible and they asked for the name of the device, so I’m sure I made a sale for them
Take your time. I love your long episodes style videos. Great quality videos, repair and maintenance. I love all your projects but the gnx and the gsx/talen. I really like how you wash your cars and always keep them looking fresh. Have you thought about doing some tasteful wrap/decal to a car. I'd love to see what you come up with. Oh and my fav is the V 🤩
I've got a Snap-On Triton, but still might get a Carly because I have a Mini. The Snap-On won't give me access to the Mini's BCM internal software to configure it like the Carly.
you in the video who don't use ear protection are incredibly stupid!!!
you must use it from the beginning, not after you have exposed your ear to loud noise!!
Great intro!
If you are missing the catalytic converter(s), you could have a lawsuit against whoever sold you the vehicle. Also, whoever removed them could be subject to a criminal action.
Man, this brings back memories of my 650s. That car was a freaking disaster and every single little thing that broke on it was a major expense. Just the worst. Hopefully you have better luck keeping your's on the road.
its so cool they allowed you to work on your car with them AND he even went over how to change that water pump, thats rad. AND he re-tapped that lung nut too.
#bringpeterback
Awesome Alex love these vids 👍🏻 flames man that is so cool!
Cool seeing the Bays... also looking at a 12c, drove one and quite loved it. This McLaren shop is incredible, gives me so much to look for!!
Love the videos, Alex. Little off topic from your McLaren, I was wondering what pressure washer system you use in your shop to clean your vehicles. I remember watching a video a while back and you talking about it but I couldn’t seem to find it. I hope you answer me on this I would like to know for our shop. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
Great episode !! Thank you guys!!
Love that you cross reference parts to find an alternative. Major win finding that part for $1.99!
Awesome video bro! You just keep crushing it!
This mechanic in cannonball garage has your same energy or did a great job matching your energy. Super nice video as usual
Perfect edit. I liked how you said fire the exact moment the flames come out of the exhaust at 1.07
Oil change intervals got longer mostly cause the oil got a lot better. Its 10,000 miles with an oil and filter capable of lasting that long, not cheap conventional oil.
So cool to see the leather guy working on the car and just mixing the color bye eye:)
Great video Alex
Ivan was fantastic
He definitely knows McLaren’s very well.
Really hope that your
MP4-12C is a good car without major problems.
And Arnie is an awesome guy, with a great shop.
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