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Internet Brands, the powerhouse behind WebMD, drops a bombshell on remote work with a video that's as bizarre as it is controversial. CEO Bob Brisco declares the home office era dead, backed by 'Iko Iko,' dance moves, and some questionable stock photos. Despite backlash and a sea of eye rolls, they're not backing down, opting for a 'clarified' stance on their hybrid work model. We're diving deep into this clash of corporate wills vs. worker wits, unpacking a saga that's become all too familiar in the post-pandemic workplace. Is this the end of remote work as we know it, or just another chapter in the ongoing office saga? Let's find out.
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I bet that "great company" that's getting built up by "great people" pays minimum wage to over 60% of its employees. Interesting way of showing how "great" they think their people are.
Have you heard about color correction? There is a slider called contrast 🤓 (the emoticon was totally necessary)
LOL! "They want people come to an office to work on the Internet, instead of at home...... on the Internet."
So true. 😆
To the people reading this, the executives LinkedIn’s show you the power of connections and the quote:
“It’s not what you know it’s more about WHO you know!” 📌
He wants people to go back to the office, but he isn't even there and they green-screened the office backgrounds?!
Hmmm... Perhaps the leadership team holds themselves to a lower standard than their subordinates.
No wayyyyy! lol @@AlexOtten44
Rules for thee and not for me.
Disgusting.
They are all on green screen. At least go to the office to film. Pathetic.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have a fun story. I led an entire ERP data implementation remotely. Made it through and got a TON of value accomplished over that year. Then the company started spewing the usual back to office for collaboration nonsense from all of its executives. To my absolute disdain, i had to uproot my whole life and leave my dog for 8 hours a day to go back in to an office to end up spending my entire day on zoom anyway. I was told being back in the office would lead to essential face to face interactions to enhance the projects I was running. My next project was to implement a BI tool. I put together a high level and well thought out implementation plan for my meeting with executive leadership. I set the location as our big conference room. Guess what? Only one out of the 8 executives showed up to the room, and they made me put the meeting on Zoom so they could attend remotely muted with cameras off. They weren't even away on business, they were just at home.
I already pretty much knew, but thats when i REALLY knew that all this talk of collaboration is bs and not true in the slightest. I left the company two months later.
Stronger man than I. I would have quit on the spot.
You are a slave, of course you are at the office. The masters are at home.
Congrats... They don't deserve you... but your pooch on the other hands does ❤
The whole collaboration argument is pure garbage. Most of what happens in offices is just constant interruptions and distractions even if the whole team is in the same office. For those rare occasions when a team feels a face to face meeting would be beneficial they can just get together for that specific meeting.
@@loganmedia1142 Agreed. I can tell you with 100% certainty that for every minute of enhanced collaboration due to being in person (on the rare times they exist), there is at least a half hour of meaningless bs (desk interruptions, useless HR events, microwaving leftovers in a communal microwave, driving in to work etc.). Clearly the point is not to provide value but to commit time. Committing time means you're more likely to feel psychologically attached to where you are (since if you spend 40 hours a week in a place it becomes your social life) giving the employer power over your social life. When an employer has power over your social life, you constantly play the game in fear of having human interaction stripped from you. Anyone with the guts to stand up for themselves become the peg that must be hammered down to keep the system rolling.
Nobody works together in the office. They just work next to each other
Working together means helping out slackers and idiots who don't pull their weight.
and these extrovert types with their thirst for meetings just keep you distracted
@@kaiserpuppydog7174 and also ignoring the group chats of the other workers pulling the extra weight because you care even less for their complaining than the slackers and new people who are never properly trained and start by literally anyone. It's all just toxic and stupid.
Even before the pandemic, eye contact if you weren't on the same team was avoided.
@@kdpowersYep whole weeks would go by with barely a word to my colleagues 😂
My wife's work has them hybrid (2 days - office. 3 days - home). 1 hr travel time (30 there and back w/o traffic), not including time to get rdy. She is part of a 30 person team. She is the only employee from her team at this location, everyone else is in Maine or Ireland. She has to Zoom with everyone on her team. SHE DRIVES TO WORK TO ZOOM WITH HER TEAMMATES! Insane! Make it make sense.
Same for me pre-covid working remotely on lots of virtual servers in datacenters all over the world. I drove to work so i could then remote in from there instead of doing it from home. Changed nothing, just cost me time and money. So happy to currently have a boss that does not care where i work and only about the results i deliver.
Sounds like the 6th circle of Dante's hell.
How many jobs has she applied to?
Bro the company is green :D
god this sounds like my last job and im so glad im not there any more. the company had about 80 employees with 98% of them working remotely.. even ones that lived literally minutes from the office would never go to the office. but nope- not me- I had the "you need to come into the office 3 times a week" manager so that I could work in a dead, silent, empty office with about 5 other people (on a crowded day). next time im forced to go into the office, even on a "hybrid" basis, im finding a new company. these boomers and their mentality needs to go.
Why don't the CEO's work in the office, in a open office pod with their fellow workers so they can encourage "collaboration" and feel a sense belonging with the company?
They do! Back to back meetings in "leather" chairs. and then on the weekends, so many hours collaboraing on golf courses or business meals with VIPs. So much collaboration!
Exactly - see how they feel when they don't have a nice quiet office to run back to and hide when THEY want peace and quiet like the rest of us want but can't get.
Lol, "born into a family of directors" I bet he doesn't come to work until 10am because "meetings" (brunch) and leaves at 2pm because of "meetings" (golf with his friends).
Exactly
Don't be silly. CEO's don't work.
the CEOs want us to return to office, yet they couldnt even shoot their cringe video in their own office and resort to using green screen? now thats weird.
Also couldn't even get them in the same room to film together. Like each one is by themselves. At least have two of them next to each other in front of the green screen taking turns talking to show how "collaboration" works!
It perfectly sums up their hypocritical attitude perfectly.
Remember your commute is nothing more than unpaid work. It's taking away your power and freedom by costing you money.
In an era where a commute is an option, that is certainly one way to look at it. They are taking 5 to 10 hours a week from you. They're also forcing you to wear out a machine that costs 60 to 90 thousand dollars to replace. Are they going to buy me a new car?
So true. Right now I’m driving over 65 miles each way, so 130 round trip 🤦🏻♀️, and it takes me 1hr 15min without traffic. It’s horrible. I’ve only been at this job for over a month and have already told them I can’t do full time anymore and will have to go on-call at the end of February. I’ve had 2 cars die on me THIS WEEK alone trying to go to work- my car, which now I have to pay 2.4k to get fixed and THEN the car I was borrowing while mines getting fixed also died today when I was trying to leave for work lol. I feel like at this point they probably think I’m lying about it so I don’t have to go in but it’s like the universe is forcing me to not torture myself.
@@roxycockseywell who in the flying fuck was dumb enough to take a job 65 miles away and expect anything different of the commute? That entire comment just might be the dumbest shit I’ve ever read.
You do have the right to use your commute and vehicle matienance as a write-off on your taxes, if you choose to pay them of course 😗
@@roxycocksey I feel you. I used to be in the same boat. I worked in one city and then commuted 60 miles to school each way. It always sucked, that whenever I had some kind of emergency fund saved up it would immediately need to go to the car. And I didn't have some kind of fancy expensive car. I had a base model VW Golf. I did as much maintenance as I could on my own, but I didn't dare try to change my timing belt. Luckily I only had to replace the clutch once. It lasted me 250k miles.
I was fortunate to have family that had multiple vehicles and they liked me enough to let me borrow one when I needed it.
No company pressing for RTO should ever be permitted to pander about a carbon footprint.
This is how you know they’re all lying about caring for the environment
Carbon footprint is a joke. There is no CO2 crisis.
@@deydraniadiancecht8298 that aside
@@deydraniadiancecht8298yes there is lol. Try going outside
@@demodiums7216 outside into the 0.04% CO2 level? Easy. The atmosphere is only 0.04% CO2. You're a damn liar if you say that's a problem.
OMG - the cringe is off the charts on this one. The CEO is a tool. That office environment is absolutely soul crushing - what a dump!
His wife’s boyfriend high fived him later
These CEOs have rent to pay so they need to justify the rent. Follow the money.
So cringe
If it wasn't so soul-crushing, then why is every video of them using a fake background making it look like they are in the same offices?
You said it. All of the points absolutely on.. point!
Even the Washington Post ran an article on the 24th saying "Office mandates don't help companies make more money." It's all about ego and controlling the peasants.
It’s one reason. However, for some places being in the office is necessary (not all the time), but at least weekly a few appearances helps for some businesses.
Psychopaths thrive using face-to-face, in-person communication to fully apply their intimidation and manipulation skill sets.
@@kaiserpuppydog7174 I mean you worked your a** off for that position and there's nobody there to see you shine? Now a "Director" or "VP" or "CEO" is just words on a piece of paper. People need admiration to feel important.
@@hannah60000I’ve worked every successfully with team members that I’ve never seen in person. This old and busted control system is living on borrowed time.
"Our wealth that is tied up to commercial real estate has been consistently losing its value. We need you back in the office to push it back to where it used to be. Ya know, we're a team, we're in this together 💪"
There you go, saved you a whole lot of word salad.
😂
MGMT made screwed up choices and need patsies to take the fall.
in nashville tn on one street 12 office buildings are empty
@@Troy-nc5br- Dave Ramsey is telling everyone to invest in Commercial real estate. He says that he’s cleaning his portfolio of residential to focus solely on Commercial because it’s less hassle 🤣 I like Dave but he’s a b/s guy too!
That part.
9:20 "Born into a family of Directors and Founders"
Once again proving the maxim, "Behind every Self-Made Man are Rich Parents buying their son's success."
You people are such bitter losers, holy hell. It’s hilarious in the most pathetic way.
I'm so happy to be retired. No more of this corporate BS for me.
I have at least 30 years left, but I hope to be in your shoes one day. I'm maxing out my 401k, living a relatively modest life, eating healthy, exercising, and hoping for the best.
@@dyelawnhotfire Good luck to you. Your planning will set you free.
I can't wait to retire and do what I want. I envy you.
You don't have to be retired to not accept and go along with corporate BS.
@@elimcfly350 Yeah but does help.
I used to enjoy going to the office in the 90s
We each had a room, with a door with a name tag, a desk and a bookshelf. You could lock the door and concentrate on the job.
There was a kitchen, and a conference room for any meetings.
But your office was your office.
Then as the 90s turned into the 2000s, software development turned into “web development”, the number of staff when up 10 fold, offices became open, and everything went to shit.
You cannot write software in an open office.
Lol ironically when 'the office' actually used to mean an office, it wasn't as bad, no.
"Born into a family of directors." That explains a LOT. That man is the Bane of the corporate world. He was born in corporate filth. Molded by it.
"You think HR is your ally, Bruce?"
We only adopted the darkness of the office , he was born in it !
Boss paying peanuts: I paid you a small fortune!
Remove workers: and that gives you power over my commute?
Ikr? I wouldn't advertise that to be sure!
He didnt see the light until he was 13 which at that point it was PILES OF TRUST FUNDS
"We ain't asking you, we telling you... but we keep it light hearted like woop woop"
Nah
If only these CEO's put that same effort into treating their employees like adults.
This is almost the entire reason I hate being in the workforce. I cannot stand for a company or a manager to treat their employees like they're f'ing middle schoolers. The other thing is acting like menial work is so hard that they need to have a specialist to do it. It's like you did not need a human to do this. I can program a machine to do this stupid crap.
You know why execs want everybody back in the office? Because part of the fun of being in charge is walking through the office like you're King Big Dick, knowing you climbed the corpo mountain and stepped on people to get there, and everybody is beneath you. It's just not as fun when nobody's in the office at their desks to remind you of this.
A.k.a. their narcissistic supply.
It’s stuff like this that makes me glad I quit finance and became a carpenter. The trades don’t have this passive-aggressive, wishy washy, micromanaging nonsense. You put your 8 hours in pushing base or hanging doors, and you go home. Done. I’ve lost weight, feel happier, and actually find the work interesting. No more HR mandates, no power hungry CEOs, no social engineering nonsense you can’t opt out of, no corpo-speak! I should have done this ten years sooner!
Are you able to make six figures as a carpenter?
Do you have to make 6 figures to have fulfillment in your life? That being said, if you’re a good enough carpenter it is possible to make 6 figures.
Not right away. But if that's your goal, then if you put in 3-5 years to become a foreman and get into Project Management, then absolutely!
Plus the benefits are much less expensive, with a practically non-existent insurance deductible, and extremely good job security. For every 50 people retiring from the trade, only 7 are going in. Oh, and literally no degree required! That's another bonus. @@JustMe99999
The plot to Office Space in real life?
❤❤❤ the trades
This is just like saying "stop running at your nearby park, come and run inside our gym".
This CEO gives me bad vibes, I can imagine he keeps employees who don't return in his basement
"Participate in happy hour, or else you're not allowed to shower"
Participate in happy or it gets the hose again.
Yep, I got a real retaliatory vibe, like we'll eff you on the way out the door if you don't comply.
"I'm not asking, this is not a negotiation, it will put the lotion in the basket."
What was not mentioned is the fact that at the end of the video, while "Iko Iko" plays in the background and the hapless employees dance, they added the subtitle "Dont mess with us. " Subtle.
The people who are demanding others return to the office are LONELY; they don't create anything and need that interaction to make themselves feel useful (because things get done when they're not around).
One day, it will be considered unusual for software companies to have office buildings.
I'd say it always was
Office buildings are already outdated as is
But how else are you supposed to hear about the HR department's lame costume contest?! And won't they miss all the passive aggressive emails about cleaning out the fridge or wiping out the microwave? What about middle management's feelings when they no longer have a captive audience to tell their boring anecdotes to?
not only software companies, when the job consists of "people doing stuff on a computer and attending to meetings that are done online" it makes less and less sense to have a HUGE drain on the budget in the form of "office space rent"...and all the costs that come with having a physical place, you have to buy toilet paper, paper for the printers, maybe the ink (this one IDK because many companies opt for renting the printers and mos tof the times ink comes included in the contract), the electricitiy bill, water bill, either having staff whose sole job is cleaning that building + the cost of cleaning products or you hire a cleaning company either way you have a cost to cleang a space that shouldn`t even exist...
The only company that kinda makes sense to have a physical place is a factory, even so you`d only need the maintenance crew to be "in locus"
Also having employees
Psychopaths operate at peak satisfaction when they have in-person contacts to use their manipulation and intimidation skill sets on.
Weak men always want power over others. The ceo in this video likely struggled with the ladies and is operating from a point of weakness
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Not only micro-managing, but they need you back in the office to justify the long term leases they signed for the space in buildings they're invested in. This is the new way to downsize without the distasteful firings. My favorite part is all the phony, baseless generalizations about why it's necessary to swipe in. We're Office 3/ Home 2. I'm only 7 miles from the office building. Sometimes I elevator up, swipe into my floor. Then walk around the floor to the stairs and go home. Officially, I was in the office that day. No swipe out.
What i don't understand is that, whether they have 10 employees or 1000 employees, how that would make any difference not in their favor - they still have to lease the entire building or floor. You have less power usage, less water usage, less maintenance, don't have to pay for the parking services/permits for employees (if parking garage is independent as many are in the city), etc.
@@davestorm6718The sunk cost fallacy is something they teach in economics 101. What would an executive know about economics 101? These people aren't founders, they aren't visionaries, they don't have "good business sense" they're just people who had rich parents and who went to the right schools. The C-Suites don't know anything.
Been saying this for a while: It's probably not even the CEOs that want you in, they are probably someone else's puppets. The investors are definitely the ones calling these shots to return, since they are probably loosing money through their ears with real estate and other businesses failing because people are not around.
They all wanted to cause mass panic with the plandemic and since that did not work as planned, they are now paying a high price for it and not liking, thus they want to put a stop to it.
@@davestorm6718 Spending money creates power. That's why the USA is in massive debt. Drive up occupancy to justify the expense. If employees spend money on parking, lunch, etc. the muni credits the business that brought them there.
@@tadroid3858 Justify the expense? "We have to pay the lease because if we don't, we'll face penalties for breaking the lease, and we judge that would be greater than the savings we would get moving to a smaller office that better fits our changing needs". There, justified.
My company used to post productivity numbers during the pandemic that showed we were about 15% more productive remote, then they suddenly stopped posting them and said productivity was way down and we needed to go back into the office. Of course it was a crock of shit but I guess they got tired of their office space losing value.
Open collaboration spaces are hell. You don't have any privacy. Also if someone is being disruptive you just have to bare through it while the person being loud is applauded for being social ...
stand up and loudly declare - is this the team collaboration we’ve been told about?! golly gee this is super productive guys, what a win. go team!
I had to wear noise cancelling headphones all day long when I worked in the office prepandemic. Someone had to get the work done
Yes, let's share everyone's noise, visual distractions and germs, a great idea.
@@NicathatsmeI would kill for "a cone of silence."
"We need you in the office to do the same work you did at home." The higher-ups where I work are mandating more time in the office, citing face to face time and cooperation as reasons. Slight issue, most of my team are in a different town, and there are plenty of people I work with who happen to be over 100 miles away. I go into the office to boot up MS teams and go on webchats to talk to them. Managers have even said we get less done in office because there are so many distractions.
But I'm just a lowly worker, so what do I know?
Ah, the "grad to executive" pipeline! You too could have become an executive right out of university if you just worked harder.
Bootstraps!
Firm handshake!
Look them in the eye!
Why, kids these days don't know about GRIT!
/sarc
In reality, you just described the ruling classes in action.
That's always something that amazed me when I check the LinkedIn of people that are in their 50s/60s. They graduate and **poof** executive or director
@@reshie Totally agree. I noticed that my former colleagues always change their prior job title to Director on LinkedIn when they move on to the next company. The funny thing is that I worked with them and knew none of them were ever directors. lol
@@AnnAndNala They're probably capitalizing on the fact these companies either don't exist or it was a long enough time that no one would care to do a background check... You can be anything you want if you're lying lol
@@reshie Background checks are only for us peasants at the bottom.
I've been full remote for 4 years. The company I worked for got acquired by another company and now they're mandating all remote workers back to the office. The office in my city is a small windowless cube about 3x3 meters, no kitchen, no couches or chill out areas, no bidets and it looks so sterile. After a few hours I was already screaming in my head I need to get away from here. My ADHD won't let me sit still in that kind of environment all day let alone a few hours. Apparently going back to the office is supposed to make me more productive 🤷♀️ I don't see it. Sooooo I went back to working from home and gonna see how this turns out 😅😂
Similar story, the moment they talked about it the second time I didn’t say “no” to a recruiter and I’m starting a new fully remote job on Thursday - decisions need to have costs - only when rto has real costs for the company they will be able to make a real decision because so far I feel they think we’re joking or playing some game rather than discussing one of the fundamental details of our lives
I hope that you made sure that they know you left because of talk of coming back into the office.
That really messed up that they expect workers who have been remote from the beginning to “return” to an office that they never went to in the first place! I hope enough people push back on this.
Did they give you permission to work from home again?
My company had a forced RTO policy. I just ignored it. So did a few other employees. No one has said anything since. We're all engineers so good luck replacing us over stupid nonsense.
That CEO sure is creepy. 😖
And he's trying so hard to be human. But he can't pull it off.
So, like a normal CEO.
@@theinn9392 most ceo's are sociopaths
That’s exactly probably why nobody wants to come back to the office. Lol!
@@GenerationX1984 The Zuck's long lost brother?
What I love about companies saying you should come back into the office is that the execs will still choose to work from home in their home offices like they did before the lockdowns.
This just in: schoolyard bullies think fates should be decided at recess.
And, after school or during lunch time, too!
Wasn't he the same guy telling us all to embrace change ten years ago? He just needs to embrace himself. He obviously didn't get enough hugs as a kid.
He is the boss, don’t like it find another job .
@@SteveCanon453 we don't have a social contract anymore. There aren't any bosses. We just have people who've gained from the national dollar fraud more than others. They still think they're in charge. They're not. The difference in realities will become very evident soon.
@@SteveCanon453bootlicker
Just before COVID hit, my boss asked me to give up my office to a person who was filling a new position in the department. I told her that I had scouted around and saw no vacant offices in the building. My job required an office with a door because I was on the phone all day as a corporate recruiter talking to applicants. I said that I would be willing to give up the office for a work from home arrangement, and next thing our office was being shut down because of COVID. I was prepared to quit over this, but the company made the decision for my boss. It was great! I was really productive, but I ended up quitting because of a disagreement over paid time off. You can't give employees freedom from a soul-sucking commute and then take it back. Luckily I was able to retire early, but if I ever rejoin the workforce, it's got to be remote. My remaining time on this earth is too valuable to just squander it away to a corporation that doesn't even care if I exist or not.
We have been told to get into the office 2 days a week for collaboration reasons. So now we all commute in, sit and work with our headphones on and still ignore eachother until it's time to go home...got to keep the value of commercial real estate up I guess...
Yeah, same thing happened when we were forced back into the office. For the first few days everyone chatted and caught up, but after that it was like a funeral. Half my team was not local so we worked exactly the same way we did remotely. Thankfully they realized how pointless it was to come in and told us we didn't have to do it any more a few months later.
Companies are so short-sighted. They have no problems asking employees to go above and beyond if work requires taking calls during off hours or working after 5 pm or looking into a critical issue at night when you're supposed to be having dinner with your family. Then it's all about "we're a family we should support each other".
But God forbid if I take an hour off while working from home so I can get some stuff done at the bank and suddenly I'm stealing company time.
What companies don't realise is an employee that has the liberty to work from home and balance time his way is a happy employee. And happy employees think twice before switching as they don't want to lose the flexibility. That's better retention and less disruptions to team.
Exactly. The ONLY reason I don’t switch jobs is because I work from home. I’m not payed extremely well but I’m not micromanaged and that adds a ton of value for me in addition to not having to commute.
In the last 2 years I’ve had other job offers, one for about $3000 more a month, but they required at least 2 days a week in office. Wasn’t worth the time and hassle. My company’s Evil CEO and his Evil Sidekick mandated RTO one evening out of the blue. The VP of HR quit over the gross disregard for employees. I got a special exemption, only approved and handed out by Evil Sidekick, to continue to work from home. ONLY reason I stay.
Your call out of their LinkedIn experience as career bureaucrats is perfect
OMG I worked for this company for a short period and something didn’t feel right so I quit. Now I know what this something is after watching your video
I mean I think everyone's figured out RTO mandates are just code for "we need to reduce headcount but don't want to pay unemployment or severance".
Some of us live in countries with employee rights and protective laws. The CEO in the US making these decisions is not going to be saving anything in unemployment or severance in my country AND he’s losing the top developers in our site to this crap. I have a bag of marshmallows read for the company crash and burn party. It’s also one of those dou€hebag companies that fires everyone by mass emails on a Friday afternoon. Life After Layoff has nice words about that kind of behavior…
Probably 80% of their work force is now looking for another job
Musical chairs
I guess he never heard of malicious compliance.
I had a manager one time state "if i make my staff do something that they disagree with, they will make my decision fail."
Exactly! This executive team just said they want people to talk to each other. Fine! I'm going to spend 3 hours talking sports with my buddy on the team and hey now - you just said that leads to good ideas! Stop whining; we're here and talking!
Omg. I work for a Fortune 100 that’s requiring everyone to be in the office four days a week. While we were wfh, they renovated my team’s office space, turning it into the dreaded and inefficient open plan. I used to have an office. Now I can grab a cubicle. To take the same Zoom calls I was taking from home. And listen to other people’s calls. And have a colleague routinely pop up and ask me who I was talking to about any issue he’s interested in. And half my team work in satellite offices, so literally all of our interaction is over Zoom. I just can’t wait to retire.
Make the company increase the employees' pay to compensate them for their travel time and gas. You will see them turn around and say they don't need them in the office. They want you back in the office as long as it does not cost them a dime.
Right, and full COLA for REAL inflation. Wanna go back to pre-COVID office experience? Give them pre-COVID money. Can't do it, or won't do it, either way the time of the slimy C-suite is coming to an end because transparency is ENFORCEABLE.
Then you wouldn't be part of the "community" contributing to the economy. They don't want to take you ability to "build and create" your "community" away. Then they will do something stupid like buy you a plant for your desk and say we don't work in office We work in an (office) park!
Imagine the world we lived in if employers (and cities by extension) were responsible for commute times. Construction would be exponentially more efficient and employers would be all kinds of accommodating
"Return to the office" (RTO) only makes sense for staff that require physical access to on site resources to perform their job duties. If the job can be performed on a standard computer, it can be performed remotely. Overall, most of the RTO arguments boil down to either:
1. Appeal to authority and tradition.
2. Desire to return to proximity based task scheduling.
3. Sunk cost fallacy from previous investments in office space.
4. Fallacy of the broken window style arguments involving workers supporting economic development.
Ultimately, I believe maximizing the utilization of remote work while giving extra compensation to workers required to be "on site" will be the winning long term strategy.
Let’s be honest, far more are demanding you to come to the office even for positions that can be done remotely. They want their buildings to have people again to make it seem more valuable, aka higher corporate real estate.
Yep, but I also think that now, since people have seen the light, the reluctance to go back to office will translate into fewer investments in commercial real estate and newer companies will prefer hiring remotely. You just don't need an office for most modern day corporate jobs, especially the ones in the service sector.
It also has a lot to do with corporate real estate. A lot of the banks were propped up with corporate real estate loans. If they default banks are in trouble, it is why they're trying to rezone big office buildings in NYC to affordable apartments.
I bet most of them are renting, so IMO they don't give a F about the value of the buildings. I wouldn't completely dismiss the motivation of people performing better. I can see it on some of my colleagues, and sometimes on myself too.
You don't seem to understand how the economy works. Working remotely, from home, whatever you want to call it, is terrible for local, state, and federal economics. Forget the office space. Let's consider the countless small businesses impacted or driven out of business by the decline in commuter traffic. Now, consider commuting expenses like gas, tolls, mass transit tickets, etc. Beyond revenue to those business entities, there are taxes associated with them that support roads, bridges, etc., not to mention the ever-growing salaries of the workers needed to staff all those things as revenues and profits decrease. Now, factor in the supply chain aspect. All the businesses that stock the businesses that cater to a commuter crowd. The ripple effect is profound and that lost revenue to the govt? It WILL be made up. You think it doesn't get passed on in higher prices for everyone? Higher taxes? Do you know how many small businesses have gone under because of it? People need to grow up and think holistically. Take off the sweatpants and GO to work. Most people do nothing for the county. Going to work is the very LEAST they can do for the greater good.
@@brandonw1604 Time to buy some credit default swaps The Big Short style, the harder they want to make return-to-office happen the more I'm gonna buy some
I'm working in hybrid mode two days a week. And I go to office just to swipe a card for my attendance.
The problem with this mode is that I travel every week from my home in A city to my office in B city which takes me 6 hours each way, which means 12 hours every week just in travelling so that I can be close to my ill and ageing parents rest of the days. The company doesn't care about me or my parents. They only care about my attendance, even it is for 30 minutes a day and making people in B city rich by making me spend money on room rent and travelling.
The only reason I work here is because it pays my bills and I can't find work anywhere else because of this recession.
Where Im at, they announced return to office with a hybrid plan of 3 days a week. During planning they realized there were not enough cubes for everyone so it became 2 days a week tell they build a new building to accommodate the added workforce.
The official announcement was about how great it would be to be able to socialize at the office, to see each other face to face and to get caught up on how everyone was doing. Not once did they say anything about actually working. So now we go in 2 days a week, share desks with someone who comes in the other 2 days, and all anyone seems to do is stand around and talk or play games in the game room. Not a lot of work getting done. lol
Make sure everyone gets a lot less work done than when you were fully remote.
THAT is your answer. Reduce productivity in office. That’s the only language they speak: profits
The disconnect between leadership and grunts is getting more and more distinct.
I am an independent consultant, I work fully remote on my terms, when I want to. If I don't want to work, I don't take a contract. It took me 22 years to get here, but it's the most amazing thing to have this kind of unilateral freedom.
Yes 100%. Been a remote consultant for 8 months now and I will do anything to not commute to an office again. Idgaf about how close the office might be.
Same here. I do NOT miss office culture.
This is what I want to do!
Same here. No need to commute to sit in front of a computer elsewhere.
My sister has been a full time, career-salary state post since 2019. She works remotely, university support, education. She's been moved up 2X. Does OT & a few travel jobs: 3-4x per year. She likes her job.
I’m convinced RTO is more about “laundering” layoffs. They want you to quit so they dont need to lay you off.
I like how they make it sound like "returning to the office" is a life or death situation.
This CEO is demanding everyone return to the office to put in their 8 hours a day, while he comes and goes at will, working on the golf course.
isn't the video proof against returning to the office in itself? They made a video that could be viewed remotely thus removing the need for an in person meeting or an email, about the need to RETURN TO THE OFFICE! They've dunked on themselves and they're too stupid to realize it.
My boss is a introvert who let’s us work remote. We go to the office occasionally, sometimes once a week and sometimes not even once a month. And the company just keeps growing. Really no issues working fully remote.
@@notjustanotherbrickinthewall may god grant us all such a wonderful boss
I'm happy working from home thanks, been doing it since march 2020. As a team manager, I've hired people located all over the USA working remotely for my team, and the company has people all over the world. Even if I go into the office, I'd just be on Teams calls all day, exactly the same as if I was at home.
The thing these CEOs never seem to address is how much smaller their workforce pool is if they need people in office or hybrid. You're limited to recruiting people who live within an hour of your office or are willing to relocate. Why not get access to huge numbers of quality people all over the country?
Psychopaths operate at their peak satisfaction when they are able to use in-person manipulation tactics and intimidation.
I was forced to come into the office to "meet" the head of my former organization. He made us sit in a big conference room and listen to him talk. So much fun. Of course, the best part was when I asked him, after he had traveled 600 miles or so to our office away from the headquarters where he works, how he expects us to "collaborate" with our coworkers in the HQ unless he wants us to fly there for a 1 hour meeting. You ever hear that joke about someone having a hamster wheel in their brain and the hamster dying? Yeah, I literally watched it live! The guy had NO CLUE what to say! Completely shut down; brain not working! Look, buddy, pretty easy - if I'm already remote from the internal support staff and external customers I'm supposed to work with, what does it matter if I call them from a cubicle or my home office? Yes, I had just spent multiple years working on a project we completed annually with people located mostly around the US and yet, that wasn't good enough for this bozo! Thankfully I found a similar job that is fully remote where the leadership understands being in person isn't really necessary to complete the work geographically spread across the country.
I work a small tech company based that made the RTO announcement last week. They based their decision on “culture,” that’s it. This is after the CEO sent out an email during the pandemic letting us know remote work would be “forever”. He’s just a puppet for the VC company funding us, our CEO actually used to work for them. I think all these tech CEOs were just waiting for the type of tech instability that’s currently going on in the market. They think that they’re so clever about it when the real reasons are plain as day. Complete BS!
Love how they are all in front of a green screen, so clearly NOT in the office. But you totally should be.
I was in a situation during the first year of covid where I was one of the roughly half the "team" that had to work on site due to the nature of our job. the other half worked from home for the year. Those of us on site were bitter. We saw it as a raise for the work from home crowd. They saved on gas. Got to save the commute time so they basically got an extra free hour. We'd get company emails over the year thanking the remote workers for their sacrifice and working from home. Meanwhile the on site workers didn't get any recognition.
I worked a desk job during Covid, and I was also required to commute to the office. I vowed to never work a desk job ever again.
it has been so long of being remote that i will never go back to the stupid useless office... at this point if someone even mentions offices we are ending our relationship right then and there...
We had to go back to the office 2 years ago. It's a hybrid with Mondays and Fridays at home. I am amazed that we still have all of our meetings and all of our communications through Zoom. We still work the exact way we do at home, and of course I still have my one hour commute each way. It's also amazing that managers and certain select teams can still work from home whenever they want while the rest of us have to either work in the office on our designated days or beg to get special permission. I hate the office.
I get the feeling that the director are losing their big bonus if no employee are using the building.
Real estate values. They want to be able to sell their office space.
@@NateWilliams-h8q Their office space isn’t valued based on how many employees work in it.
This is the perfect way to make your employees hate your company and want to sabotage it...
What a nightmare that company must be to work for. Hilarious that they want to get everyone back in the office, but then use a green screen to film their awkward and somewhat menacing interviews.
They need to stop the cap and accept that the reason people prefer to work from home is the same reason management has offices instead of cubicles and the same damn reason none of them answer their phones when they're needed. No one likes to be bothered constantly with nonsense that could just be thrown in an email or a Teams chat to be dealt with later.
The CEO is actually the Emperor Palpatine.
I thought he looked familiar.
2:49 This explains why a lot of the managers I’ve come across don’t know the basics.
Back to the office or it'll become really obvious that our HR department is redundant.
And we have a lease on the building, so we better make use of it.
So frustrating to see return to office mandates thrust upon employees for no better reason than "because reasons" or "because I said so." As someone that enjoys the company of the people I work with (electing to even spend time with them outside work, and vice versa) I am a happy camper at my office. I know that is rare, and I know that not everyone is having the same experience even at my company. People that were hired on fully remote have been commanded to return 3 days a week or be let go. It's crazy. I don't see how this is a positive, even more my position of finding success with it.
At least they make it easy to realize where I don’t want to work.
As someone who has been 100% remote and self-employed for 15 years now, this channel is just entertainment and sometimes like watching a horror movie - besides that, always a reminder to be grateful for my own situation.
In other words: "We middle managers need to justify our existence, so come back to the pit"
I very rarely work directly with the people in my office. Usually I'm working with people at other locations. When I do communicate with people at my office, it's most often through teams or video chat anyway.
But upper management has still determined that it's important that we start coming in the office more often. So that I can text and video chat with the same people I would have at home, but from an office instead.
I've responded by cutting my work hours so that I only work while in the office, rather than doing 10 or more hours like I would when I was working purely at home.
My employer's office is also one of these modern software development hellholes with no personal space and no barriers anywhere, but I don't have to subject myself to that because we can work remotely. I don't even have to live in the same city as the office. Several of my co-workers don't.
One of the things I hate about this drive to force people back into offices is the lies. All that baseless collaboration nonsense. I don't just blame the CEOs, but all the people who push this false idea that people need to be sitting elbow to elbow all day to work well together.
Why don't they just give big raises to these people they praise for coming back to the office voluntarily? Problem would have been solved.
Lol. Blake worked at Arthur Anderson, the CPA firm that audited Enron, during the same year the scandal was uncovered. Glad to see he went on to have a successful career
I am now back to hybrid... I can see a 4-5x increase of emails I send when I work from home, where I can grab lunch downstairs & eat at my huge desk as opposed to using 3-4 hours commuting, parking & having to go out to find lunch every day.
I do 99 percent of stuff by myself and hardly need any other contact. Office trips will cause 2 hrs a day of wasted time driving, money spent on gas, tolls and lunches.
They want me back in the office too. I’m not going
I can do what I do from home, or even from my car
When I’m in the office, it’s constant interruptions
No decent coffee, insufficient toilet facilities and a whole bunch of BS that makes me roll my eyes
Managers want you back in offices so that they can hold onto their own position. It’s not about collaboration or productivity. I can collaborate over zoom or over the phone
The corporate sound effects really did it for me, and the green screen Bob stands in front of, comedy on a whole new level.
0:14 Give him a cape. That way he can be Super Serious. 😂
There is an entire Office space industry that doesn't need to exist
What’s the KPIs for idle gossip, cheating partners, back stabbing, do as I say not as I do, and favoritism?
I love how reserved our company is about returning to the office now, we have the occasional office days to try to get people to return and get a "feel" for the office again, but productivity on those days drops to zero, so management is struggling hard lmao
08:50 Okay the comment on the mouthwash and "belt buckles to climb up the corporate ladder" part got me good 😂
I am still remote, and there is some pressure for folks to come into the office, but they hired so many people that geographically cannot come in. It doesn't seem fair to me just because I live within 90 miles of their office. So I avoid the conversation and only come in if totally necessary. I don't get very much done at the office these days because all my work stuff is at home now. So any in-office days become more of a social event and noting more.
Why any shareholders would let such out of touch CEOs be in power escapes me.
During labor market downturns, this and worse are communicated. I remember one executive team saying that given the high unemployment rate (at that time), employee satisfaction is no longer a concern to us. It's do what your told or the street for you.
It's been a minute since I had to go to the office to work but something that irked me was the "floating workstation" and "don't put up personal items." If I had an assigned desk, and could put up my little plant, vacation photo, my preferred pencil cup and mouse pad...basically if they allowed workers to make their office area a bit more personalized, people might not mind going in so much. However, when they expect people to float around like dust bunnies, landing wherever and work in their sterile lifeless box, yuck!
Yeah, former company (before I was able to find a remote job) started talking about us coming back and then were whining about lack of space so the need for "hoteling" of desks. Hey morons, you don't need to worry about too many people and folks now needing to share desks if you LET US WORK FROM HOME!
That sounds like something from Dante's vision of hell...
I don't care about setting up personal junk in an office, but I don't like having other people's dirt, grease, food, germs, etc. all over the equipment that I have to use. My immediate thought is people who don't wash their hands after using the bathroom or eating greasy food.
@@sexygeek8996 There is that too. If you float and are in another workstation daily, who knows the hygiene of the person there the day before.
@@InterIdoruI was also worried about liability for shared items. In my former job, we were "assigned" computer monitors that were tracked and we could be liable for any damages to them. As they were discussing shared desks, they never mentioned how that was going to change. It is much easier, should the monitor just sitting on my desk get damaged, to prove I hadn't been there in over a week. But if we are forced back and swapping, how do we know who damaged it?
We don't want to be with you, just to work for you and get paid.
All the half-decent execs jumped ship five years ago. They knew Idiocracy was on the way. It's arrived.
There's a reason why so many SWE jobs are remote: because you can still collaborate via Teams, because software is stored in the cloud, because you have a much larger talent pool willing to work for you. It makes far less sense for these jobs to be mostly in person compared to 2005, when remote work was limited to far less jobs.
Only reason I'm still at my job is because I'm still 100% remote. They haven't gone back on their word for that. As soon as it becomes mandatory, I'm applying elsewhere.
Personal experiences tells me that WFH results in way more productivity. Going to the office always results in unnecessary (face-to-face) meetings that waste time, interruptions that demand immediate attention (can’t prioritize conversations like you can on slack), and distractions that are entirely the result of cringe corporate culture BS (think office Olympics).
I work for a fairly large public company... we've closed many of our offices and more and more people are going remote. I'm glad that there is no push to go back to the office; the company sees the benefit of unloading some of this real estate, and productivity hasn't gone down.
My company has been fully remote for over a decade (before COVID!)
This is nonsense.
I'm in no hurry to go back to the office, work fine with my entire team from home.
Our VP just sent an email out and said we are going back to the office for at least half the week starting in March after working from home for over 3.5 years. Reason? To collaborate. SMH We don't even need to collaborate to do our job, let alone do it in person. We have done the job perfectly fine for over 3.5 years using Teams but by god NOW we need to be in the office for some reason.
I would leave if I weren't stuck with the golden handcuffs. I have to stay to get medical from the company when I leave and I am way too close to getting that to leave and give it up after 25+ years of working there for that benefit.
It's ridiculous, we were required to come back last year and barely anyone talks to each other or even says hello. The managers occasionally come over to bug someone to justify their existence. Every commute a waste of time and gas. It's all just to satisfy their sense of control and power.
@@kaiserpuppydog7174 Yep, agree 100%. Nobody is going to want to talk to anyone when they are there for no purpose and wasted time and money for no reason. Also we have been communicating through Teams for over 3 years, why would we bother getting up out of our chair and walking across the room to talk to someone? And the managers literally have no job at all, therefore they are the only ones bugging people.
I get less work done in the office than I do during WFH. But I guess showing that we don't need management is bad for management...
You are spot on. That fake office looked depressing! My home office is next to a stream of water all my books, my computer configured the way I like it and no distractions. And the biggest value proposition no commuting.
the sheer amount of incompetent executives ive come across............