I’ve seen some people ask “if they need the money so bad, why don’t they just sell their beachfront house, isn’t that worth a ton of money?” I think the Devs already considered that, since you can see the backyard is actively being consumed by the cliff from all the water erosion, meaning the foundation of the house is compromised, so no one will want to buy it since the house (and the land it is on) will likely be swallowed up within a few years, if not a few months.
@@yaldabraxasI mean, I disagree that crime is the way to solve issues since it only pushes everyone around you down further, but saying that "living too long" is a pretty horrible response to this dawg
One theory I have regarding the gambling is that they try to launder the money - because paying medical bills with big duffle bags of cash is a big no-no.
Yeah, I don't know how Shayne didn't pick up on that. It's pretty obvious that's the case, specially with the NRS letter and the smart one of the boys recently trying to learn blackjack.
@@petekronthere's another guy who did a video about the same map more recently, and he pointed that out: the brothers probably got worried after receiving the NRS letter so resorted to online gambling the money to launder it
There’s a voicemail left on the landline in the living room which is someone from the PD calling the Tran mother to follow-up on her report that her sons are making the weapon parts. This means that, in addition to the 911 call, the mother’s report may also have brought upon the SWAT raid. In that sense, while the Tran kids may have sacrificed a normal life and turned to crime to try and save their mom, the mom sacrificed herself to stop her own sons from making the weapon mods.
I mean, I understand her integrity. Many people would rather die than live on through blood money brought on by their sons breaking the law and dealing with psychopathic murderers. She's on her last legs and her last memory being the sons she raised and escaped her homeland for becoming gambling criminals to pay her bills off, I think she doesn't even have the will to live if that's what the future holds
It's one of the easier missions to clear with non-lethal, so if all the officers are on the verge of resigning, you can run this mission over and over to reduce their stress levels.
As a Vietnamese who is also struggling in a foreign country right now, this map really hits me hard. I nearly broke down to tears after playing the map and understanding what went down, The Vietnamese note on the picture genuinely left me speechless. It's saddening because a lot of fellow immigrants that I know personally have eerily similar stories. Currently I am dealing with debt, involuntary unemployment, and severe thalassemia. Seeing the bills adding up is slowly pushing me to my mental limit. I genuinely have no clue how I'm still around and how much longer I'd still be around, but I'm holding out hope that things will turn for the better.
SLA printers typically produce weaker, more brittle parts than FDM. You'd have a hard time producing usable firearm parts with an SLA printer. Source; wouldn't you like to know, Fedboi
I love how RoN isn't afraid to talk about social issues (like a bad healthcare system) and stuff that really seems crazy to be in a game. Missions like the Neon Tomb, Elephant and Valley of the Dolls really just showcase that VOID isn't afraid of the backlash that might come with making these very graphic missions that often can get a bit too real.
In a realistic situation like this the dad wouldn’t get a fine for the raid and the sons would make a plea deal for time served after they provided info on buyers and sellers.
This mission hit home for me, as someone whose mother passed from cancer. The costs of her treatment wiped all our savings, so I sympathize deeply with the Trans.
I do think that it's Perez who brought the brothers into the "business", he's either loosely related, or a low running member of Los Locos, but was just trying to help his friends. The other Los Locos however may not have such good intentions. I suspect the mysterious caller is related to Agent Adams. In last episode we already know he's into 3D printing gun smuggling and taking the Trans as potential competitors, and it's possible he used LSPD to take out his competitiors with Los Locos gun smuggling business.
In Commander mode this map hits even harder, because you just defeated a large group of heavily armored and well-prepared veteran soldiers in Brisa Cove, and now your enemies are a couple of young unskilled boys with pistols.
I wish that there was some lorehooks between the Alt History Vietnam of Los Sueños and this Vietnamese family. Like if the cancer afflicting the matriarch was from Agent Orange...
As a VN I’m wondering if his name’s actually Anh or if that’s just all anyone’s ever heard the other boys call him I think the caller is Jack Adams, as there’s a note in the FISA room that mentions reporting them. As for the call mentioned in the briefing, there’s an unused voicemail recording from Alana Chan getting back to the parents after they visited the station about their sons
The story of this map, as heartbreaking as it is, could use some clarification as to who it was that tipped off the police. The 911 call implies either one of the brothers or even the father (though hearing the call, the voice sounds too young to be the dad). Text documents, meanwhile, implicate the mother as the whistle-blower.
I have cancer, and while I’m thankful for the fortunate position I was born in, those medical bills are no joke. I’ve seen firsthand how even if a cancer diagnosis isn’t a death sentence, the debt accumulated from treatment can be.
They play blackjack to launder the money. This makes them lose a lot, but effectively provides a "clean" source of income for them to report in taxes. They are likely learning how in response to the audit note, and were not properly covering their tracks previously.
Might need to revisit all of the missions Shayne. The Home Invasion update added more voicelines to every character and as a result, more context: The elder Tran brothers would sometimes remark that they "should stop dealing with them" implying they did make a deal with Los Locos making the RNG appearance of their members not a coincidence. Furthermore, if detained, the Tran brothers may even mention "they were going to kill us" which implies that the Los Locos were not just working with them, but possibly in the middle of making another offer the brothers can't refuse. So all that money they got, would still not go towards their mother's bills. This may also explain who the 911 caller was: Agent Adams. A note in marker in the FISA office in Greased Palms mentions the Tran family as "competition" so he was going to buy them out on behalf of the Los Locos. But when the Tran brothers started having second thoughts, he decided to shut them down. With all that in mind, there was no way the Tran family would make it out of this. The LSPD raid may have been a better alternative than a whole van load of Sicarios paying a visit. Even if both outcomes led to the same fate.
My theory, I think the brothers knew that they had to get out of the game before it was to late, they got ahold of the los locos where they would buy out their operation so they didn’t have to make any more weapons. They planned to use what ever they had made and use it for gambling in order to make their dirty money into clean money. Vinny however didn’t see it this way, he thought it would be best if they continued making these parts and protested against selling their operation away to some gang (hence the phone call)
A friend of mine commented that the LSPD precinct is too detailed to just be a stop off between missions and speculated that there might be a precinct invasion mission at some point in the future. The Tran brothers might just have the motivation to try something like that 🤔
"They are ordering parts to make a semi auto into a machine gun" - anyone who knows anything about guns sweating looking at their closet Also just to add rq, that 3D website most likely is just on the web. We have a bunch of websites that supply you with blueprints for 3D printing firearms. (Completely legal in the US depending on state, federally its 100% legal tho) theres a reason Jstark said "you cant stop the signal"
I never felt good about having to arrest the Tran family; as a human being I understand why they did what they did, and I would have probably done the same thing. On the other hand, I am an extension of the authority of the land, and their activities are the very antithesis of my mission, and I MUST stop them. I love how RoN can communicate such human stories just with environmental storytelling and a few voice lines.
when you go into the room with the money bags in it if your playing in Quick Play mode you'll hear Eli say "Ive seen some benders in my day, this guy has given up." which might hint at some lore for the other officers just saying
while yes, they are desperate to pay for their mother's medicine, at the end of the day the weapons they modified were used by some very bad people for very bad purposes that cost the lives of a lot of people in the process. they are pitiful and yes, you should feel bad for them, but they still need to face the consequences of their actions.
Okay, the books on gambling and the poker chips are 2-fold: first, they’re probably planning on using the casino to launder the cash they get from selling full-auto gun mods, which also explains the NRS note. Second, they would actually be gambling for money so that they could be used to help pay for their mom’s cancer treatment. Not to mention, that if the NRS decided to do a full audit on how they’re paying for everything without their regular jobs doing so, then this would be the perfect story, because it would be an easily explained and understandable one that basically tells itself: the eldest son, Anh, sees the bills piling up after each cancer treatment. Being as smart as he is desperate to help pay in any way possible, he’d learn how to play card games like poker and blackjack, and plays against his brothers to train. But since Anh and his family don’t have much cash lying around, he’d sell a car they own and take out a small loan so that he could bring some cash to the casino and hope to god that he wins enough money to help his family. If there are any melee weapons in Ready Or Not, this mission should have the Tran brothers have them nearby or on them if you could explain why (so if they aren’t alerted to you and are equipped with a baseball bat, it wouldn’t be in their hands ready to smash someone’s skull in. It would be in a corner of their room or the front door. If their melee weapon is a pocket knife, then they should just act like normal civilians if they’re not alerted. If they’re alerted by something that isn’t gunfire or your team, they should be alerted and maybe have their weapons ready, but not for a SWAT team. The brothers would be thinking that some random burglar would be breaking in and figure out what’s going on, maybe try scare them away. But if they ran into you and/or your team? The brother who found you would immediately panic and play defensive, try to back away, or even just surrender outright. However, if you shoot them, the brother you shot at will try to fight back with their melee weapon of choice. And if you kill them? The other brothers would pull their guns and try to get revenge against you for killing their family. Hell, if you kill all the brothers, then maybe the father grabs a shotgun and tries to avenge his sons!)
just thought I'd point this out, for the achievement "the Abducted" it marks ends of the earth as a mission to get it. not sure how it ties to hide & seek, and buy cheep buy twice but it could be there just because.
Both Hide and Seek and Buy Cheap are all related to the Weapon smuggling (although we later found out that Hide and Seek also smuggle humans), The Abducted may consist therefore both sides of the event: The chain of events started by LSPD Investigating Weapon Smuggling ring of Los Locos, ultimately found out such Smuggling rings also involved human trafficking. The Trans is more related to the Weapons side.
This one was a tough mission to play through. Not trying to start a debate, but it’s my personal opinion that automatic weapons shouldn’t be illegal in the first place. So role playing as a guy going in to apprehend and potentially kill suspects, and condemning a woman to die of cancer, for breaking a law that I saw as unconstitutional, had my head in so many knots that I eventually just settled on “today it’s my job to be the bad guy.”
This is probably the only mission I feel bad for because it’s just three brothers trying to get their mom the Medicare she needs and trying to get their dad out of the debt hole he is. Sure they are supplying gun parts to the Russian mob and cartel, but they’re not as evil as them because to what everyone else is doing they look like Saints just making gun parts.
It sucks to have to ruin a family, but it's worth considering who they are selling to. I'm a firearms instructor and security guard trainer, I have worked in the firearms industry in different capacities over the years and been a part of the community since I was 10. By and large, the majority of people buying these auto sear type things, like Glocks with switches, illegally, are thugs on the street with beef to settle with other thugs, and undercover cops trying to bust illegal firearm sales. Fun fact, auto sears THEMSELVES are considered the machine gun, you register the SEAR when making one, as it's not exactly legal to buy due to the 1986 legislation against NFA items (NFA being the National Firearms Act of 1934, which made machine guns, sawed off shotguns and pistols with stocks and foregrips illegal unless you pay a $200 tax stamp, which was the price of a Thompson SMG at the time. NFA was ammended in 1968 and 1986, the '86 ammendment being that no machine guns newer than 1986 can be sold, so if you want one, you have to register it and build it yourself). So that said, given the clientele being largely uneducated thugs and cartels, I don't feel all that bad for the Tran brothers. I feel bad for mom, not even dad. She clearly has objections to this and decided it had to end, because think about what criminals are doing with those auto sears. To be clear, I don't feel as if they should be illegal, the 2A says "shall not be infringed", infringement literally meaning "restriction" or "limitation", but I honestly hate thugs who prey on innocent people, it's my main motivation for wanting to teach people how to use a gun effectively to protect themselves. It would be one thing to me on a moral level if they were selling to every day Joe who didn't wanna pay his government mandated bribe to own a full auto firearm, owning one and having one is objectively not morally measureable, but it's what you do with them, and selling to people you know damn well are probably going to do harm to other people makes you complicit. If that guy really is Los Locos, they are actively selling to cartels, and I live in a border city, I feel the cartel impact in terms of drugs and violence in my city, and I have contributed to stopping some of it through some of the jobs I've worked, and that makes them complicit in murder.
I noticed the car they are selling has the same name as codename of one of the kidnapped girls in car dealership. Probably doesnt mean anything but i thought i will just point this out
When I first played this map with my friend we entered through the stairs to the second floor. As soon as we walk in I see one suspect facing away from me. I tell him to get down, he dosen't so I shoot him in the leg (I am using an mp7), still nothing. The suspect turns around and two more rush up the stair inside alongside the father and they open fire on me. I start spraying, empty my entire mag in full auto. In the chaos my friend throws a flashbang, blinding me halfly. All three of the suspects die and somehow the father survives my volly of bullets. Then I relode and like two seconds later a nother suspect comes from the attic and I proceed to kill him as he fired on me first. Me and my friend found the other suspects and made them surrender if I remember correctly (or we may just have shot them) and we beat the mission saying "that went smoothly" as we laughed.
You missed a phone call on the landline in the living room. And you missed a voice recording from one of the brothers that plays when you interact with the computer in the room with the duffel bags of money
Excellent video as always mate! It’s tragically sad that the US system and those like it put people into life destroying debt. No-one should be kept from the human right of life saving medical care.
The other tragedy is, to anyone sane, none of the modifications they are doing SHOULD be illegal. Although I guess what they're doing wouldn't command as much money if black market increased demand didn't kick in.
The proper pronunciation for Hue's name is closer to "Hway." Aside from that, another common Shayne W. A very good mission where you kinda feel like the asshole in the situation. Moral complexity is spice to a good story.
The best detail that drives in the impact for me is the fact that the stairwell to the attic, which I have had many firefights in, is positioned right in front of the Mother's room. You kill her sons right in front of her, and you likely had no other choice in that moment.
Everyone is saying how sad they were when they played this misson, well I don't judging by the phone call in the mission brief. They screwed someone over and now they pay the price. (They did what Walter White did, if they would have known they place everything would have worked out)
Actually some people have theoriesed that it was agent Adam from the post office map that called them as there's a note on that map saying that he wants to get rid of the tran brothers to help Adams own gun smuggling business
Timeline Theory: Agent Adams went on a 911 call to use D-platoon to take out the Trans indirectly so Los Locos can only go to him for 3D printed weapons, effectively monopolizing his hold on the market. He can't just ask the Locos to gun down the Trans since they're buyers from them too. The LSPD is the safest and easiest bet. After Adams' call, LSPD contacted the home for over-the-phone interrogation which was thankfully picked up by the mother who confessed everything and provided LSPD with more detail of the situation. That's why the 911 call is a young male voice and the mother is listed as the informant in the mission debrief
I understand why you feel like the bad guy, having destroyed a family. But during my playthrough, I felt fine because I thought of all of the families those modified guns would have destroyed.
I'm pretty sure the Tip off call was actually done by Jack Adams as inside his office there's some text written about them saying "Report to the LSPD?" as you mentioned in the previous video, Jack tried tipping LSPD off so they'd take care of them and maybe get his competition gone.
So the neat thing is downloading/possessing files and materials to produce sears, suppressors and other conversion devices is completely legal and covered by the First Amendment. What you do with that information however can lead you into trouble. So websites and other distribution methods of this information is completely legal along with producing your own firearms at home for your own use as long as you're not prohibited from owning one to begin with and it conforms to all other firearms laws (barrel length, semi-auto, etc) in many states. It's the First and Second Amendments working together Knowledge is good, 3D printed firearms are interesting but staying out of jail is even better. Just keep your builds legal, stay safe and have fun
Theory: I think our main character is having ptsd flashbacks to his older missions trying to make Sense of it by looking through evidence and remembering the stuff he found trying to make sense of it all.
huh, I figured that FDM printing would theoretically hold up to better punishment, especially if used in firearms, compared to SLA printing? personal experience when making mechanical parts with both printing methods suggest FDM parts are more resilient, when the appropriate materials are used
This mission is ridiculous. I'm from a developing country in Asia struggling but trying to establish a good health care system despite widespread poverty, and the idea that this family is somehow justified in jumping straight to manufacturing illegal weapons for sale directly and deliberately to criminal syndicates of all people would be downright offensive and/or laughable to a lot of us. The family in the game isn't just better off than most immigrants into the US, legal, or illegal, but possibly most Americans as well. I'm not downplaying how painful, scary, or distressing having cancer, or having a loved on with cancer is, or that people in poverty really might not see, or even actually have a feasible means of surviving outside of crime, but the premise of this family and this mission as somehow deserving of our sympathy and being justified is downright insulting
hey Shayne, is capturing 1440p footage expensive? or hell 4k? I'm honestly asking/wondering, not trying to jab at your current recording set up but just genuinely curious.
To think we ruin a perfect family cuz Vinny thought he was doing the right thing by calling the cops yet today we are the true monsters by overstepping the thin blue line
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The could have just made a SWAT game but the fact that they actually have lore behind it is so cool to me
The soundtrack is also incredible imo
Copyright issues and red tape. This game is basically a SWAT game anyway.
@@DylanJo123 A spiritual successor to SWAT 4, if you will
@@Ladis1 that was the phrase I was looking for
...until they started removing parts of the game because it doesnt fit the ""lore''''
To make it worse, in our universe half the family would have been shot by the ATF.
And their dog too
@@sethmoyer likely every dog in a quarter mile radius.
@@LegendStormcrow every dog in a mile radius.
@@YourCoolUncleMccroy What dog?😉
had to keep it realistic fellas, killed the family 'accidentally'
I’ve seen some people ask “if they need the money so bad, why don’t they just sell their beachfront house, isn’t that worth a ton of money?”
I think the Devs already considered that, since you can see the backyard is actively being consumed by the cliff from all the water erosion, meaning the foundation of the house is compromised, so no one will want to buy it since the house (and the land it is on) will likely be swallowed up within a few years, if not a few months.
also, you can put it on the market... but nobody has the money to buy it. Kinda like real-life.
@@herusolares5320A bank will buy it out then. Just like in real life.
@@yaldabraxas at the lowest price that is nowhere near enough for the mom's medical fee. Just like in real life
@@SkyDragon1997 Living too long is bad anyway.
@@yaldabraxasI mean, I disagree that crime is the way to solve issues since it only pushes everyone around you down further, but saying that "living too long" is a pretty horrible response to this dawg
One theory I have regarding the gambling is that they try to launder the money - because paying medical bills with big duffle bags of cash is a big no-no.
That's absolutely why, dirty cash in clean cash out even if you lose 50 percent of it you couldn't use that cash anyway
They def are trying any means possible, from fire arms, gambling, ect.
Yeah, I don't know how Shayne didn't pick up on that. It's pretty obvious that's the case, specially with the NRS letter and the smart one of the boys recently trying to learn blackjack.
@@petekronthere's another guy who did a video about the same map more recently, and he pointed that out: the brothers probably got worried after receiving the NRS letter so resorted to online gambling the money to launder it
There’s a voicemail left on the landline in the living room which is someone from the PD calling the Tran mother to follow-up on her report that her sons are making the weapon parts.
This means that, in addition to the 911 call, the mother’s report may also have brought upon the SWAT raid.
In that sense, while the Tran kids may have sacrificed a normal life and turned to crime to try and save their mom, the mom sacrificed herself to stop her own sons from making the weapon mods.
And her own kids too.
I mean, I understand her integrity. Many people would rather die than live on through blood money brought on by their sons breaking the law and dealing with psychopathic murderers.
She's on her last legs and her last memory being the sons she raised and escaped her homeland for becoming gambling criminals to pay her bills off, I think she doesn't even have the will to live if that's what the future holds
Forgot to mention how D Platoon would repeatedly raid the house and bean bag the family whenever a few officers get a little stressed.
What
It's one of the easier missions to clear with non-lethal, so if all the officers are on the verge of resigning, you can run this mission over and over to reduce their stress levels.
I'd go with the gas station mission instead. LOL
The gas station is way faster for that, like sub 10 minutes fast.
This map was always the one that felt the most engaging to me. No huge conspiracies or gangs, just some people who made a bad choice.
The worst part is that this choise is the only one they had.
@@DENOhritkofacts the state of LS implies to me at least that good jobs aren’t easy to come by with the crime and unrest so rampant
I assumed the caller was the FISA agent from the mail center mission, trying to eliminate the competition.
"That'll teach them"
"...sir?"
" *OH F**K* " _click_
Our tax dollars at work.
As a Vietnamese who is also struggling in a foreign country right now, this map really hits me hard. I nearly broke down to tears after playing the map and understanding what went down, The Vietnamese note on the picture genuinely left me speechless. It's saddening because a lot of fellow immigrants that I know personally have eerily similar stories.
Currently I am dealing with debt, involuntary unemployment, and severe thalassemia. Seeing the bills adding up is slowly pushing me to my mental limit. I genuinely have no clue how I'm still around and how much longer I'd still be around, but I'm holding out hope that things will turn for the better.
Hang tough buddy
Hey mate, it’s been a month, please tell us you’re still okay.
@@SealSoft hey man, I’m holding on
I got a job now, it’s not much but it’s helping with the medical bills somewhat
here’s to another month, cheers
@@MaisenOfHarlotsrooting for you, pal
Based signalis enjoyer, hope ur doing good
Oh this mission is so heartbreaking. My grandparents were immigrants and they fought so hard to get to where they are now.
SLA printers typically produce weaker, more brittle parts than FDM. You'd have a hard time producing usable firearm parts with an SLA printer. Source; wouldn't you like to know, Fedboi
I love how RoN isn't afraid to talk about social issues (like a bad healthcare system) and stuff that really seems crazy to be in a game. Missions like the Neon Tomb, Elephant and Valley of the Dolls really just showcase that VOID isn't afraid of the backlash that might come with making these very graphic missions that often can get a bit too real.
In a realistic situation like this the dad wouldn’t get a fine for the raid and the sons would make a plea deal for time served after they provided info on buyers and sellers.
This mission hit home for me, as someone whose mother passed from cancer. The costs of her treatment wiped all our savings, so I sympathize deeply with the Trans.
I do think that it's Perez who brought the brothers into the "business", he's either loosely related, or a low running member of Los Locos, but was just trying to help his friends. The other Los Locos however may not have such good intentions.
I suspect the mysterious caller is related to Agent Adams. In last episode we already know he's into 3D printing gun smuggling and taking the Trans as potential competitors, and it's possible he used LSPD to take out his competitiors with Los Locos gun smuggling business.
"That'll teach em"
"...what?"
"FUCK"
The only mission I play with a fully non-lethal load out
I hear gas/beanbag shotgun makes things pretty easy on every mission
In Commander mode this map hits even harder, because you just defeated a large group of heavily armored and well-prepared veteran soldiers in Brisa Cove, and now your enemies are a couple of young unskilled boys with pistols.
The game constantly drives the point that you're a janitor, not a superhero.
As someone who works with 3D printers. I appreciate the nerd breakdown of the 3D printers and the possible conversions they may have been making!
I wish that there was some lorehooks between the Alt History Vietnam of Los Sueños and this Vietnamese family. Like if the cancer afflicting the matriarch was from Agent Orange...
As a VN I’m wondering if his name’s actually Anh or if that’s just all anyone’s ever heard the other boys call him
I think the caller is Jack Adams, as there’s a note in the FISA room that mentions reporting them. As for the call mentioned in the briefing, there’s an unused voicemail recording from Alana Chan getting back to the parents after they visited the station about their sons
The story of this map, as heartbreaking as it is, could use some clarification as to who it was that tipped off the police. The 911 call implies either one of the brothers or even the father (though hearing the call, the voice sounds too young to be the dad). Text documents, meanwhile, implicate the mother as the whistle-blower.
Comments theorize it was a guy that competed in the same illegal arms trade bussiness
I have cancer, and while I’m thankful for the fortunate position I was born in, those medical bills are no joke. I’ve seen firsthand how even if a cancer diagnosis isn’t a death sentence, the debt accumulated from treatment can be.
They play blackjack to launder the money. This makes them lose a lot, but effectively provides a "clean" source of income for them to report in taxes. They are likely learning how in response to the audit note, and were not properly covering their tracks previously.
As a gunsmith, 3d printing fun switchs don't work it'll break and might cause a catastrophic failure, aka your gun explodes
Might need to revisit all of the missions Shayne. The Home Invasion update added more voicelines to every character and as a result, more context:
The elder Tran brothers would sometimes remark that they "should stop dealing with them" implying they did make a deal with Los Locos making the RNG appearance of their members not a coincidence.
Furthermore, if detained, the Tran brothers may even mention "they were going to kill us" which implies that the Los Locos were not just working with them, but possibly in the middle of making another offer the brothers can't refuse. So all that money they got, would still not go towards their mother's bills. This may also explain who the 911 caller was: Agent Adams. A note in marker in the FISA office in Greased Palms mentions the Tran family as "competition" so he was going to buy them out on behalf of the Los Locos. But when the Tran brothers started having second thoughts, he decided to shut them down.
With all that in mind, there was no way the Tran family would make it out of this. The LSPD raid may have been a better alternative than a whole van load of Sicarios paying a visit. Even if both outcomes led to the same fate.
My theory,
I think the brothers knew that they had to get out of the game before it was to late, they got ahold of the los locos where they would buy out their operation so they didn’t have to make any more weapons. They planned to use what ever they had made and use it for gambling in order to make their dirty money into clean money. Vinny however didn’t see it this way, he thought it would be best if they continued making these parts and protested against selling their operation away to some gang (hence the phone call)
A friend of mine commented that the LSPD precinct is too detailed to just be a stop off between missions and speculated that there might be a precinct invasion mission at some point in the future. The Tran brothers might just have the motivation to try something like that 🤔
"They are ordering parts to make a semi auto into a machine gun" - anyone who knows anything about guns sweating looking at their closet
Also just to add rq, that 3D website most likely is just on the web. We have a bunch of websites that supply you with blueprints for 3D printing firearms. (Completely legal in the US depending on state, federally its 100% legal tho) theres a reason Jstark said "you cant stop the signal"
I never felt good about having to arrest the Tran family; as a human being I understand why they did what they did, and I would have probably done the same thing. On the other hand, I am an extension of the authority of the land, and their activities are the very antithesis of my mission, and I MUST stop them. I love how RoN can communicate such human stories just with environmental storytelling and a few voice lines.
the music (ends of the earth) that plays when the mission is over makes it one of the best
i love this map because it's not some 30 man drug raid but just a regular house which is more realistic
This is the only map I go out of my way to NEVER ever kill anyone.
I remember watching Hell or High Water where somme bank robber brothers used a casino to launder the stolen money as winnings
8:29 1200% APR thats some daylight robbery
when you go into the room with the money bags in it if your playing in Quick Play mode you'll hear Eli say "Ive seen some benders in my day, this guy has given up." which might hint at some lore for the other officers just saying
while yes, they are desperate to pay for their mother's medicine, at the end of the day the weapons they modified were used by some very bad people for very bad purposes that cost the lives of a lot of people in the process. they are pitiful and yes, you should feel bad for them, but they still need to face the consequences of their actions.
IM A GOOD POLICE OFFICER
IM A GOOD POLICE OFFICER
IM A GOOD POLICE OFFICER
IM A GOOD POLICE OFFICER
IM A GOOD POLICE OFFICER
😭
I swear half these busts are just "I'm gonna mess with you, and oh look. They have illegal business running there."
I'm surprised this mission didn't lead to a four mission storyline revealing the largest gun smuggling operation in all of Los Suenos.
We doing nothing but S rank with zero smoke bombs, teargas, or CS gas with this one!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️(also, Shayne, please keep cooking)
Okay, the books on gambling and the poker chips are 2-fold: first, they’re probably planning on using the casino to launder the cash they get from selling full-auto gun mods, which also explains the NRS note. Second, they would actually be gambling for money so that they could be used to help pay for their mom’s cancer treatment. Not to mention, that if the NRS decided to do a full audit on how they’re paying for everything without their regular jobs doing so, then this would be the perfect story, because it would be an easily explained and understandable one that basically tells itself: the eldest son, Anh, sees the bills piling up after each cancer treatment. Being as smart as he is desperate to help pay in any way possible, he’d learn how to play card games like poker and blackjack, and plays against his brothers to train. But since Anh and his family don’t have much cash lying around, he’d sell a car they own and take out a small loan so that he could bring some cash to the casino and hope to god that he wins enough money to help his family.
If there are any melee weapons in Ready Or Not, this mission should have the Tran brothers have them nearby or on them if you could explain why (so if they aren’t alerted to you and are equipped with a baseball bat, it wouldn’t be in their hands ready to smash someone’s skull in. It would be in a corner of their room or the front door. If their melee weapon is a pocket knife, then they should just act like normal civilians if they’re not alerted. If they’re alerted by something that isn’t gunfire or your team, they should be alerted and maybe have their weapons ready, but not for a SWAT team. The brothers would be thinking that some random burglar would be breaking in and figure out what’s going on, maybe try scare them away. But if they ran into you and/or your team? The brother who found you would immediately panic and play defensive, try to back away, or even just surrender outright. However, if you shoot them, the brother you shot at will try to fight back with their melee weapon of choice. And if you kill them? The other brothers would pull their guns and try to get revenge against you for killing their family. Hell, if you kill all the brothers, then maybe the father grabs a shotgun and tries to avenge his sons!)
just thought I'd point this out, for the achievement "the Abducted" it marks ends of the earth as a mission to get it. not sure how it ties to hide & seek, and buy cheep buy twice but it could be there just because.
Both Hide and Seek and Buy Cheap are all related to the Weapon smuggling (although we later found out that Hide and Seek also smuggle humans), The Abducted may consist therefore both sides of the event: The chain of events started by LSPD Investigating Weapon Smuggling ring of Los Locos, ultimately found out such Smuggling rings also involved human trafficking. The Trans is more related to the Weapons side.
@@wolfensniper4012 that does make sense, and i guess greased palms is also with the weapons smuggling
This one was a tough mission to play through. Not trying to start a debate, but it’s my personal opinion that automatic weapons shouldn’t be illegal in the first place. So role playing as a guy going in to apprehend and potentially kill suspects, and condemning a woman to die of cancer, for breaking a law that I saw as unconstitutional, had my head in so many knots that I eventually just settled on “today it’s my job to be the bad guy.”
Yeah, I’d hate to have to be one of the swat guys in a real scenario like this.
I agree this is definitely one of my favorite maps. Hopefully we get more of these style of maps that are more focused on individual stories..
This is probably the only mission I feel bad for because it’s just three brothers trying to get their mom the Medicare she needs and trying to get their dad out of the debt hole he is. Sure they are supplying gun parts to the Russian mob and cartel, but they’re not as evil as them because to what everyone else is doing they look like Saints just making gun parts.
This was the first and only mission I cared to S rank, as a 2nd gen immi shit hits home
It sucks to have to ruin a family, but it's worth considering who they are selling to. I'm a firearms instructor and security guard trainer, I have worked in the firearms industry in different capacities over the years and been a part of the community since I was 10. By and large, the majority of people buying these auto sear type things, like Glocks with switches, illegally, are thugs on the street with beef to settle with other thugs, and undercover cops trying to bust illegal firearm sales. Fun fact, auto sears THEMSELVES are considered the machine gun, you register the SEAR when making one, as it's not exactly legal to buy due to the 1986 legislation against NFA items (NFA being the National Firearms Act of 1934, which made machine guns, sawed off shotguns and pistols with stocks and foregrips illegal unless you pay a $200 tax stamp, which was the price of a Thompson SMG at the time. NFA was ammended in 1968 and 1986, the '86 ammendment being that no machine guns newer than 1986 can be sold, so if you want one, you have to register it and build it yourself).
So that said, given the clientele being largely uneducated thugs and cartels, I don't feel all that bad for the Tran brothers. I feel bad for mom, not even dad. She clearly has objections to this and decided it had to end, because think about what criminals are doing with those auto sears. To be clear, I don't feel as if they should be illegal, the 2A says "shall not be infringed", infringement literally meaning "restriction" or "limitation", but I honestly hate thugs who prey on innocent people, it's my main motivation for wanting to teach people how to use a gun effectively to protect themselves. It would be one thing to me on a moral level if they were selling to every day Joe who didn't wanna pay his government mandated bribe to own a full auto firearm, owning one and having one is objectively not morally measureable, but it's what you do with them, and selling to people you know damn well are probably going to do harm to other people makes you complicit. If that guy really is Los Locos, they are actively selling to cartels, and I live in a border city, I feel the cartel impact in terms of drugs and violence in my city, and I have contributed to stopping some of it through some of the jobs I've worked, and that makes them complicit in murder.
I noticed the car they are selling has the same name as codename of one of the kidnapped girls in car dealership. Probably doesnt mean anything but i thought i will just point this out
the car dealership codenamed the girls after cars . For comunications i would say
When I first played this map with my friend we entered through the stairs to the second floor. As soon as we walk in I see one suspect facing away from me. I tell him to get down, he dosen't so I shoot him in the leg (I am using an mp7), still nothing. The suspect turns around and two more rush up the stair inside alongside the father and they open fire on me. I start spraying, empty my entire mag in full auto. In the chaos my friend throws a flashbang, blinding me halfly. All three of the suspects die and somehow the father survives my volly of bullets. Then I relode and like two seconds later a nother suspect comes from the attic and I proceed to kill him as he fired on me first. Me and my friend found the other suspects and made them surrender if I remember correctly (or we may just have shot them) and we beat the mission saying "that went smoothly" as we laughed.
You missed a phone call on the landline in the living room. And you missed a voice recording from one of the brothers that plays when you interact with the computer in the room with the duffel bags of money
Excellent video as always mate! It’s tragically sad that the US system and those like it put people into life destroying debt. No-one should be kept from the human right of life saving medical care.
The other tragedy is, to anyone sane, none of the modifications they are doing SHOULD be illegal. Although I guess what they're doing wouldn't command as much money if black market increased demand didn't kick in.
We have to thank God that the ATF was not sent to the place
The proper pronunciation for Hue's name is closer to "Hway." Aside from that, another common Shayne W. A very good mission where you kinda feel like the asshole in the situation. Moral complexity is spice to a good story.
The best detail that drives in the impact for me is the fact that the stairwell to the attic, which I have had many firefights in, is positioned right in front of the Mother's room. You kill her sons right in front of her, and you likely had no other choice in that moment.
Everyone is saying how sad they were when they played this misson, well I don't judging by the phone call in the mission brief.
They screwed someone over and now they pay the price. (They did what Walter White did, if they would have known they place everything would have worked out)
Actually some people have theoriesed that it was agent Adam from the post office map that called them as there's a note on that map saying that he wants to get rid of the tran brothers to help Adams own gun smuggling business
When I played this mission I only used less lethal and arrested them all rather than shooting
I definitely feel like the bad guy in this map, it feels so unfair we go after this family when the city is filled with so much unrest and terorr
hauled ass when I saw the notification, excited to see this
Crime doesn't pay...they ruined themselves when they went down that path
Timeline Theory: Agent Adams went on a 911 call to use D-platoon to take out the Trans indirectly so Los Locos can only go to him for 3D printed weapons, effectively monopolizing his hold on the market. He can't just ask the Locos to gun down the Trans since they're buyers from them too. The LSPD is the safest and easiest bet.
After Adams' call, LSPD contacted the home for over-the-phone interrogation which was thankfully picked up by the mother who confessed everything and provided LSPD with more detail of the situation. That's why the 911 call is a young male voice and the mother is listed as the informant in the mission debrief
shane never stop talking
I understand why you feel like the bad guy, having destroyed a family. But during my playthrough, I felt fine because I thought of all of the families those modified guns would have destroyed.
I'm pretty sure the Tip off call was actually done by Jack Adams as inside his office there's some text written about them saying "Report to the LSPD?" as you mentioned in the previous video, Jack tried tipping LSPD off so they'd take care of them and maybe get his competition gone.
So the neat thing is downloading/possessing files and materials to produce sears, suppressors and other conversion devices is completely legal and covered by the First Amendment.
What you do with that information however can lead you into trouble.
So websites and other distribution methods of this information is completely legal along with producing your own firearms at home for your own use as long as you're not prohibited from owning one to begin with and it conforms to all other firearms laws (barrel length, semi-auto, etc) in many states. It's the First and Second Amendments working together
Knowledge is good, 3D printed firearms are interesting but staying out of jail is even better. Just keep your builds legal, stay safe and have fun
I feel like the elephant mission couldn't really have any lore but I would love if you still did a video on it.
shayne please dont shut up your vids are amazing
Theory: I think our main character is having ptsd flashbacks to his older missions trying to make Sense of it by looking through evidence and remembering the stuff he found trying to make sense of it all.
The Tran family reminds me of the White Family from Breaking Bad
Alternatively, one or more of the Tran could cut a deal with LSPD and become an informant, appearing later in a mission involving Los Locos.
Another great video! (Its one of my favorite maps in RoN)
always excited for your vids bro
love the videos keep em coming
First mission I fully went non-lethal on.
the sad part to me, these kids are just buying for a few more minutes
one way or another she is just going to die
hell nah they added the scummy ATF dog killers 💀💀
I could not bring myself to run this mission with lethal force, even though it isn't real i feel so bad for the family
is it bad that every time I watch a video about this mission, I am immediately sent back into the old Dr Tran videos? XD
I really like the mission's name. How far would you go to help your family? to the "Ends of the Earth."
huh, I figured that FDM printing would theoretically hold up to better punishment, especially if used in firearms, compared to SLA printing? personal experience when making mechanical parts with both printing methods suggest FDM parts are more resilient, when the appropriate materials are used
2:17 bro is not making it out without getting arrested 💀
As a Vietnamese, your pronunciation is... commendable
He butchered every single one.
Kinda disappointed they aren't armed with a fgc or just 3d printed guns because duh???
Does this situation with the crime to pay medical bills happen in real life? I am european so this scenario feels very dystopian.
Wouldn’t be surprised.
This mission is ridiculous. I'm from a developing country in Asia struggling but trying to establish a good health care system despite widespread poverty, and the idea that this family is somehow justified in jumping straight to manufacturing illegal weapons for sale directly and deliberately to criminal syndicates of all people would be downright offensive and/or laughable to a lot of us. The family in the game isn't just better off than most immigrants into the US, legal, or illegal, but possibly most Americans as well.
I'm not downplaying how painful, scary, or distressing having cancer, or having a loved on with cancer is, or that people in poverty really might not see, or even actually have a feasible means of surviving outside of crime, but the premise of this family and this mission as somehow deserving of our sympathy and being justified is downright insulting
Yes, quite a lot, sadly.
You guys maybe, I got s rank everyone loves another day
Even mom ( shame that bag of cash went missing)
The real cause of most evil in this game is for money, and in real life. Who’s really evil, us, or the 100 dollar bill
hey Shayne, is capturing 1440p footage expensive? or hell 4k? I'm honestly asking/wondering, not trying to jab at your current recording set up but just genuinely curious.
Nguyen is pronounced "Win"
although a bare few will pronounce it the way the briefer pronounced it
This is getting a little too real
This mission made me sad
My man!!
I misread it as kaworu
a rubber band will do the same thing lol.
good vid
To think we ruin a perfect family cuz Vinny thought he was doing the right thing by calling the cops yet today we are the true monsters by overstepping the thin blue line
Breaking bad map
Honestly I hate this mission because it makes it sound like programs like Medicare and Medicaid don't exist.
The medical prices did this to the family, this is why tax funded healthcare is needed but greedy corporations lobby against it to make more money.