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  • @rick9977015
    @rick9977015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Quotes directly from the source material is always a good thing. I also love hearing what the reader gets out of it himself. Many people can read something and enterperate it a totally different way. In the case of your videos... your opinion is greatly appreciated.

  • @icehockeylover189
    @icehockeylover189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "I see you!"
    I am quite fond of the quotes; they give greater insight into the lore and the topics being covered. There's a reason your channel has grown so quickly and continues to grow. Of course, keep your ear to the ground in regards to what your viewers would like to see but there's no need to second guess your style, given the success it has brought your channel.

  • @AMikeStein
    @AMikeStein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like your videos that are heavy with direct readings from the books. It makes it easy to follow and you can’t really misquote or change anything or forget exactly what was written if it’s a direct quote. I love you videos. Keep doing what you do.

  • @davidddonges
    @davidddonges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic work! Thank you for using my music from Battle for Middle Earth Reforged!

  • @evilchameleon489
    @evilchameleon489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed the ratio of direct quotes to storytelling in this particular video, found it a pleasant balance.

  • @DOSHIELD
    @DOSHIELD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I appreciate how you portrayed the information with quotes in this episode.
    I’ll be interested in hearing more about the palantir.

    • @tomlienert882
      @tomlienert882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check this video th-cam.com/video/Z9TRcHkUL1w/w-d-xo.html

  • @alanmike6883
    @alanmike6883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The tragic thing is like orthanc and other numenorian constructions, these things would never be built again.
    They in a way were like memorials..

  • @damihianimas6983
    @damihianimas6983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like direct quotes. Gives context and sources. I appreciate that a lot.

  • @tomoliver3009
    @tomoliver3009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I SEE YOU!! The Palantiri has always fascinated me. Thanks for your awesome content Broken Sword

  • @poetfrost
    @poetfrost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “I see you!”
    I never knew that quotes were a problem. I still don’t. More power to you. The fact that you ask for support at the end is rare and virtuous. I’ve been a subscriber for a while now. You are awesome.

  • @johnc6809
    @johnc6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the quotes, with the echo! Keep them up. Great back story on Isengard.

  • @lDarkhorsel
    @lDarkhorsel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I see you! 👀
    Also, I like the quotes from the lore, because it reinforces the information that you present. Actually, it is for this reason that I subscribed to your channel and watched many of your videos.
    You aren't as much into hypotheses and speculations and when you present them, it is always done within the context of actual passages, notes, and other writings of the man himself (or his son).

  • @N1njaZ3n
    @N1njaZ3n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see you.
    I like the quotes because when I read them later, I have reference on how to pronounce some things. Plus, it gives us samples of the writing from Tolkien. Those words are scripture.

  • @oscardinogetti3824
    @oscardinogetti3824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I see you
    The video was well done. Long or short you guys always do an amazing job. Keep it up!👍

  • @iopy12
    @iopy12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see you...then again i see all of your videos. So keep them coming. Thanks for all effort and trouble guys.

  • @daniellekennedy8118
    @daniellekennedy8118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regardless of the method you use to convey the information, it is the content that is most important, and that I enjoy the most. If, however, I absolutely had to choose, I do enjoy the long quotes -- I think they add a lot of depth and polish to the stories. Hope that helps!

  • @CWuerdz
    @CWuerdz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like all the quotes just increases the validity but also shows the professors work

  • @jamesmckernan1234
    @jamesmckernan1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love a video on the palantir, also the flow of the video was good, quotes were good and provided good context

  • @geraldineweiser1960
    @geraldineweiser1960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all the detail and quotes you included in the videos! Please continue making more videos like this one!

  • @mmiller73
    @mmiller73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review of the history and significance of Isengard. More direct quotes from the books are appreciated by me.

  • @urfacecalling101
    @urfacecalling101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see you!
    Also, I quite like the quotes. I don't see how they could lessen the quality of the video's y'all make and they provide a legitimacy, as if citing sources. I'm good with them!

  • @oliversmith9200
    @oliversmith9200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quotes highlight the depth of the validity of your entertaining and informative presentations.

  • @kinsmansteve
    @kinsmansteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I see you." I like the quotes, they add authenticity.

  • @crabbuckets7506
    @crabbuckets7506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like it when you quote things so keep it up buddy ✌

  • @draganvibe7583
    @draganvibe7583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems that TH-cam cut the “Build me an army worthy of Mordor.” line from the intro sequence…

  • @HGMzzzsss
    @HGMzzzsss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see you!
    Thank you for the videos, I like the quotes from the books, makes it feel more in depth.

  • @ThePathoftheJoker
    @ThePathoftheJoker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen a bunch of your videos, but still fairly new to the channel. I very much enjoy the template of your videos, along with your voice. It feels like you're a natural storyteller!

  • @Nexus-6
    @Nexus-6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see you! I also, like many other commenters love the quotes in your videos. I would love more videos like this. Cheers! 🍻

  • @MarshWaha
    @MarshWaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see you!
    I love the direct quotes!

  • @kennygpokerstrategy4917
    @kennygpokerstrategy4917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the quotes!!! Regardless of how you do it I'll be listening :)

  • @lsskywalker87
    @lsskywalker87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    regarding your question about quotes. I think the quotes are fine, but since I am not a native in English it can be sometimes quite challenging to listen to the quotes, but I can manage it at the end

  • @SlideRulePirate
    @SlideRulePirate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's well known that Saruman was into 'ring-making' and more than dabbled in 'Orc-husbandry'. So presumably he had some kind of workshop/lab. I find myself disappointed there's never any mention of what he had on the bench and the drawing board. Doubtless it would be unsavoury, to say the least, but who wouldn't want to know what else he had up his voluminous polychromatic sleeves

    • @frankezane583
      @frankezane583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup would be interesting for sure, as well as his “To do list” stapled to the wall

    • @ShadowDragon-cw7wb
      @ShadowDragon-cw7wb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aragorn would probably echo Saruman and be like "Burn it" as he set it aside to burn, never to divulge their dark secrets again.

  • @bgonzales817
    @bgonzales817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I built a city in Minecraft inspired by isengard. By design it ended up kinda resembling the imperial city in elder scrolls. Instead of a white tower its a black tower.

  • @ericstrobel2800
    @ericstrobel2800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! Not only a hearty ' I see you ', but please continue referring frequently back to the source material

  • @jeffagain7516
    @jeffagain7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I may suggest my friend, in response to your query to us as to whether we wish more quotes or narrative, why not both?
    By that I mean, I think you providing direct quotes from Tolkien himself within the structure of your vids, provides them just that more weight and dare i say, moral authority regarding each subject. That said, I think we also greatly benefit from you providing your own interpretive thoughts on each matter as well, since you have quite obviously through your research and studies of the great man's works, gained a fair amount of perspective, that we enjoy you sharing with us.
    So if your vids grow in length by a few minutes to accommodate both, I doubt you will hear any complaints. :)

  • @CynthiaWarren
    @CynthiaWarren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see you!
    I like the quotes because they give context to the information you give. Some of the quotes may offer tidbits that may lead to a viewer suggesting a new video topic for you to work on.

  • @frostmanticorerockadile9968
    @frostmanticorerockadile9968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see you
    Also yes keep the quotes

  • @islaamore3027
    @islaamore3027 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:39
    Saruman: so you have chosen death?

  • @jameswhite8840
    @jameswhite8840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video, in all the quotes.

  • @pattonramming1988
    @pattonramming1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If there were more secrets within Orthanc they would be both terrible and great ancient lore from the years of the lamps to advanced crafts and designs of greater value in the coming years

  • @laomei1855
    @laomei1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see you, and so do hundreds of thousands of your fans!

  • @cdavis4857
    @cdavis4857 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the quotes and details! Thank you!

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like this way of talking about Tolkien’s stories but nothing wrong with the older way.

  • @melkhiordarkfell4354
    @melkhiordarkfell4354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to think that some relics of the Blue Wizards were locked in Orthanc, maybe because of Sarumans quote of giving Gandalf the rods of the Five Wizards.

  • @yeomanswork2257
    @yeomanswork2257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now you gotta do a video on the elendilmir!

  • @LAWLESSKING
    @LAWLESSKING 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In a dark grumbling voice from beyond a thick fog that muffles all else you hear, " I....SEE...YOU"

  • @lotsofspots
    @lotsofspots 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did your "Build me an army worthy of Mordor." get copyright-struck?

  • @zacharyslater6568
    @zacharyslater6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video got me thinking, how would the istari introduce themselves when first arriving to middle earth? considering why they seemed like old weary men. like how did the steward know saruman was the head of the white council. this would be cool to witness, maybe i dunno great content man!!!

  • @user-uq7io2os3r
    @user-uq7io2os3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thx for yet another great video 👍 love quote "heavy " videos

  • @hobomacjones
    @hobomacjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you!
    Also, I vote yay on the quotes.

  • @demarccowalker
    @demarccowalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed this video

  • @cameronhofstetter4936
    @cameronhofstetter4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could y'all do a video on What If, Mordor/ Isenguard invaded Westeros? Game of Thrones

  • @chrisschmalhofer4348
    @chrisschmalhofer4348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a wild thought every time I hear that “build me an army…” quote at the start of each of your videos: 169k subscribers is quite an army, but is it worthy of Mordor yet?

  • @stevenkobb156
    @stevenkobb156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quotes are great. They add more reference and context.

  • @rebeccalyn9908
    @rebeccalyn9908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I don't mind the passages. I do imagine that the ROP show will spark some degree of interest in the legendarium and Canon lore; passages can bring clearer context for both new fans/viewers as well as fans who are beginning to or casually exploring the other Middle Earth stories aside from the books and/or movies.
    Edit add: I also notice through the comments that your videos spark some incredible questions and theories. Love your content!!

    • @railerswim
      @railerswim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Theyre unfaithful shills.

    • @rebeccalyn9908
      @rebeccalyn9908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@railerswim I feel you. I was introduced to ME by the '78 animated The Hobbit when I was 4 or 5. Watching my nephew one afternoon, I put it on and he watched it 3x's in one afternoon. He's 8 now, read The Hobbit and can't wait until I give the 👍 he's at a comprehension level to be set free into LOTR. That's a seed planted. He watches lore videos because he's fascinated and it keeps him engaged. I have questions at least 6x/wk from him. Definitely not a family of Shills.
      Middle Earth has been my lifelong passion and "geek". I hold hope for all, even shills, that real, genuine love and want for the OG's works as they've been written can come. Woke & shillsters are getting called to a point where hopefully someone will decide to research their 💩

  • @alistairj4851
    @alistairj4851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you!
    I like the volume of quotes in this post.

  • @jeffreyhumphrey3803
    @jeffreyhumphrey3803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's an idea for a video. Would love to hear your pitch of what a LOTR sequel would be.

  • @christopheravola9840
    @christopheravola9840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you. I love the quotes, please keep them.

  • @jeffs2935
    @jeffs2935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I See You" (Ominous voice) "Build me a video worthy of Mordor" Hahahahahaha

  • @ianheins650
    @ianheins650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work dude

  • @stairwaytoholiday
    @stairwaytoholiday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm hearing music from the films, has he always done this and I didn't realize until now or is that more recent?

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More quotes are better I think, as one tends to get more context. Plus, Tolkien just has a way with words.

  • @ShadowDragon-cw7wb
    @ShadowDragon-cw7wb ปีที่แล้ว

    They may have found relics of the Blue Wizards. It is possible they perished, not given a second chance as they lost their way and Saruman came across their artifacts. If Saruman can track a body long lost down a river, its not far fetched he also had relics of the blue duo and Aragorn would have info of their existence given his long time with Gandalf.

  • @LJ-gu2dj
    @LJ-gu2dj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video!

  • @manueljoshua175
    @manueljoshua175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I quite like the quotes, but if you feel it gets a bit to much you could also put the quotes into the description. So that we can stop the video and read the quote if we want to do so.

  • @alanmike6883
    @alanmike6883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are people's favourite Kingdoms of the first, second and third ages?

  • @LovemyDrones
    @LovemyDrones ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the scrolling text as you read it. You certainly can't go wrong quoting Tolkien,

  • @DefinitelyNotBender
    @DefinitelyNotBender 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you
    And yes, bring on the quotes!! The more the better.

  • @blaze0rama
    @blaze0rama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you. Also, I like the way you speak the Quotes.

  • @dambrooks7578
    @dambrooks7578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally I enjoy being read to by you, as I haven't all of Tolkien's published work...

  • @everettmanser3997
    @everettmanser3997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you!! also I love the quotes.

  • @jacobgregg5653
    @jacobgregg5653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the direct quotes!

  • @jamesgalbreath343
    @jamesgalbreath343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep the quotes!! They are not long, and they substantiate what you are telling us about Tolkien's writings.

  • @boothman9321
    @boothman9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video.

  • @TheLyricalCleric
    @TheLyricalCleric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If anything remained unfound after Saruman’s death it would be his RING. Saruman actually made his own Sauron-like ring, and I’d bet dollars to donuts he put his own power into it just like Sauron did. They were both Maia of Aulë, of course. Maybe the ring stayed on Saruman’s body, but more likely he threw it into another stream before escaping, knowing that he too would remain alive after death like Sauron and could in time return to wreak havoc. Saruman always had an ace up his sleeve, thinking ahead of everybody else. He’ll be a new dark lord one day.

  • @f8-ucmdr358
    @f8-ucmdr358 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Gimli actually "searched" Isengard there is little hope that HE would have missed ANYTHING!

  • @f8-ucmdr358
    @f8-ucmdr358 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely enjoy the quotes! i've the books but it's nice to sit back and listen!
    By the way............ "I See You"

  • @gratefulj7777
    @gratefulj7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the quotes!

  • @SuperEarthReigns
    @SuperEarthReigns ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the quotes!!

  • @frogmand.142
    @frogmand.142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saruman's undies were not recovered. Giving rise to the belief that Saruman had been going commando the hole time.

  • @bethewholeu4532
    @bethewholeu4532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “I see you”
    I like the quotes.

  • @warpdriveby
    @warpdriveby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not trying to split hairs, but Orthanc/Isengard was built by the Numenoreans long before the relatively small group called the Dunedain existed.

  • @paulharrison2557
    @paulharrison2557 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Saruman would have had somewhere a record of what the blue wizards were doing

  • @jleewatts4318
    @jleewatts4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the comments/quotes. And "I See You".

  • @QalOrt
    @QalOrt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I See Thou I think he had an old Numenorian Airship hidden in there.

  • @georgen3515
    @georgen3515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see you

  • @Derper1979
    @Derper1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saruman hid it well but his large collection of robes rivaled all others 😆

  • @LowCMusiq
    @LowCMusiq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Intro audio cuts

  • @Shoup1155
    @Shoup1155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you see me?

  • @blankface5052
    @blankface5052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stop asking if we want this or that or like some forms of delivery. It screams of someone not confident in their own work and not justifiably. You do a great job. By asking this criticisms to your audience, that I’m sure you ask yourself, you invite them to subconsciously come at your work from a place of criticism. Do it Bc you want to do it. Do it well, but do it how you want to do it.

  • @kerrybruce760
    @kerrybruce760 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you using Tolkien’s beautiful quotes. (I see you)

  • @elijahoconnell
    @elijahoconnell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    direct quotes are good and preferred

  • @rvth13ss
    @rvth13ss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn did they really make you get rid of that sound bit?!

  • @wolfiedwarf4382
    @wolfiedwarf4382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this

  • @BeanMonsterr
    @BeanMonsterr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like all the quotes!

  • @pamtb9753
    @pamtb9753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you guys still have any of those reading?

  • @coreymack8407
    @coreymack8407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy the direct quotes, it adds a deeper level of immersion than is possible with just paraphrasing or opinionated analysis alone. Also, the level of research to find those quotes that fit your videos shows sooooo much attention to detail. I feel equipped with enough background knowledge to enjoy the series that comes out soon. Many thanks!

  • @justinah7400
    @justinah7400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Direct quotes are great

  • @danielshaw2473
    @danielshaw2473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you...I like the quotes in the videos...

  • @SilverSidedSquirrel
    @SilverSidedSquirrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At first there was peace; then Sauron invited Sarumon and sone chosen for their weakness of mind and flew them out to Oxford and ever after they spewed lies about Amazon's abomination.