iamthatroby - You’ve managed to give a good breakdown of what the film was trying to accomplish and delivered a well thought-out explanation for your love of the film. For me, there were “parts” of the movie that were really good. However by the time Clark Kent puts on the costume, the emotional weight and solid storytelling begins to lose a lot of momentum that did not carry me through the rest of the film. Overall, I think it was a decent film that tried to be something more than the sum of its parts.
I feel man of steel was a good movie but dc shared unvirse ruined when this movie came out alot of people at my highschool like it talk abut and the hate train came with announcement batman vs superman and putting to much in one flim and spoiling the movie in the trailer but what dc should of did was make man of steel 2 first and gave us more of connection with a new superman this a character we see multiple versions of him on screen threw movies cartoons man of steel gave us new version the fact most people don't like new things and are scared of change and Christopher reeves was known as the only live action superman and had a huge fan base with his image hell even superman returns tried to keep the same feel and was scared to give something new this did and warner bros gave rushed unvirse instead of a journey with a new character and without sequel i feel they didn't give this movie a fighting chance show what henry cavil could of gave us i feel we would of gotten a light hearted sequel but we got to many character changes in every dceu movies that all felt different.
I absolutely hated live action portrayals of Superman. Felt they were to cheesy, Superman never really uses his full powers in a fight. All he does is lift heavy objects or use his powers in the most awkward way possible to save the day. But then MoS came out and Superman actually felt like a Superhero. The display of power, the development of his character, the reaction of the people to an alien and the serious tone made MoS an amazing movie. It was everything I expected from a Superhero movie. Not to boring, not a complete comedy, and amazing action. I feel like Henry Cavil’s Superman is better than any other version we’ve had before.
Zack Snyder's Clark Kent: * Saves about ten kids and a bus driver from drowning * Protects bullies from his own wrath (instead crushing fence) * Lets Jonathan Kent be killed by tornado (to protect mankind from possible global devastation his secret becoming public knowledge might cause) * Saves rig workers trapped on rig * Saves rig workers and helicopter crew from collapsing rig * Tries to protect a waitress from harassment by drunk trucker * Protects drunk trucker from his own wrath (instead taking out his frustration on said trucker's truck) * Saves Lois Lane from a robot * Saves Lois from internal bleeding * Chooses to protect mankind by surrendering (and making sure Lois isn't mistreated by the military) and willingly being handed over to General Zod * Saves Lois from plummeting to Earth in a damaged space-pod * Protects Martha from Zod's wrath (in a reckless way that endangers Smallville) * Tells the locals of Smallville to get inside * Saves fighter pilot from Faora * Saves soldier falling out of helicopter (probably the very soldier who just shot him in the face with a minigun) * Saves Colonel Hardy from Faora * Saves Earth's mankind by destroying the World Engine (fully aware he would be weakened in its presence) * Protects Lois, Hardy and Hamilton from Zod firing at plane they're in by ramming himself into scout ship * Chooses to wreck the scout ship (including the Genesis chamber, possibly the last hope for the Kryptonian bloodlines) for the sake of Earth's mankind * Saves Lois from falling to her death * Protects as many as he can from Zod by keeping Zod's focus on himself (Zod having sworn to kill everyone on the planet.) * Saves Earth's mankind (again) by killing Zod (since he can't exactly sit on a fellow Kryptonian until one of them dies of old age) Haters gonna hate but jeez, people.
It's a lot better than some of the Mickey mouse marvel movies lol.iron man 1 was damn good though part 2 to me just as good civil war and winter soldier are some of the finer ones also besides Ragnarok I couldn't get into Thor.going back to d.c. besides tdk trilogy definitely mos and ww are the absolute best.
Far as older ones idk if anyone can truly touch Toby McGuire's take on Spidey . heck even spiderman 3 isn't as bad as ppl think.k.burtons old Batman movies are classics.
filmfan24 going even further back Superman 1 and 2 wow.with all that said mos get way to much hate the score the darkness is great.fairly good acting a kick ass fight. but but superman don't kill well hell everybody is always saying he's to damned good for modern time's.well that's what ppl wanted thanks what a lot of ppl got.
I have been a Superman fan for about 45 years, and I have disagreed with the general critiques of "Man of Steel" and "Batman v Superman" wholeheartedly. I think your video hit on all the reasons I love this movie and some that were deeper than I had gone. Thanks for making this video.
that is the only time in my life I have ever done anything even close to that. At most 2 times for a movie in theaters, and that was rare. Less I be confused for a fanatical dork. (I've seen MoS well over 50 times now. It still amazes me.)
Man of steel is the best dc movie, excluding dk trilogy. Its fucking amazing, the cgi is perfect, really looked believable. I loved the fight with fiora and supes. And dont get me started on the soundtracks... just wow.
Actually Jonathan Kent dies because he is scared of what could happen to his son if he is exposed to the world. The choice that Jonathan makes cements the fact that he is willing to die so that his son lives free of any persecution. The fact that Clark dies 18 months after exposing himself to the world further proves that Jonathan was right in his fears. And without that sacrifice, his son would have lasted even less time on this Earth. Jonathan is a man scared that what makes his son different is going to be exactly why people might try to manipulate, use or assassinate his kid. Which is a far more powerful message to our world than people might think at first. The last shot of Jonathan Kent on Man of Steel also displays that, it is not supposed to be interpreted literally, it's not something that actually happened, rather it's Jonathan Kent looking down on his kid and, while worried about his fate, his expression also shows curiosity and hope that everything goes right for his son, now that he is exposed to the world. The kid wearing the cape is how Jonathan sees his son, still his kid, and he still cares for him deeply. Martha Kent is also on that scene and she is hopeful about all of this, maybe because Clark is also hopeful about it, but Jonathan has a wider view on things, which is why he doesn't smile when his kid wears the cape (aka become Superman). Jonathan Kent in Man of Steel is the best father I have seen on any movie by far, and I recognize that easily because my father was the complete opposite.
Makes sense. The kents lived in fear of the govt showing up at their door. In flashpoint for example superman never became a superhero because of it, and in one of 90's batman limited series, cant recall the name, batman discovers a hidden research facility where they were experimenting on some superbeing's corpse, which we later know it was kal el. The ending of BvS proved pappa kent right, and Im not even talking about him sacrificing himself to save the planet, but the scene where the president of the united states deems superman an expendable asset and nukes him and doomsday in a desperate attempt to get rid of the latter. But hey, its easier to just shout like a raging kid at the screen lol
its almot like the fathers in the movie are better developed characters than the main character. and when the main character isnt developed at all thats not really very hard. we know one thing about johnathan kent, that he is concerned about his son. that still makes him a one dimensional character. they wrote him to be that and nothing else and the pay off is a giant cgi monster some nut job created stabs him in the chest. this isn't superman done wlel. it's ham fisted garbage.
@@ge2719 How many layers did you need from a character who was basically on screen barely 20 minutes? It can't be layering for layerings sake. Jonathan Kent was PIVOTAL to Clark's conflict. He grew up holding himself back bc Jon believed humanity was the worst, when Clark wanted to believe it was not. Call Jon one dimensional. But he was the story's heart, and that matters more.
its not so much that he is one dimensional, but thats he is one dimensional and hes the most developed characer in the movie after the other dead dad character and way more than the lmain character of the movie. maybe they could have set up absolutely any reason why he felt humanity was the worst and couldnt be trusted to know who clark was. or any of what he actually was worried about instea dof vague overly dramatic nothing speak that sounds good for a trailer. oh and did i really need to repeat exactly what i had already written?
Zaragoz Rex yeah the "It's to dark crowd" are a bit annoying.that is what a lot not everyone but most bitched about for decades superman is to good b.s..
I don't get the people who praise Superman 1978 for having Jonathan Kent die of a heart attack, because it supposedly teaches Superman that he can't save everyone. It would be a fine lesson if the Superman 1978 movie actually stuck to that message, but by the end of the film, he learns how to reverse time, which means he pretty much can save anyone he wants, undermining the entire message.
reaper39, yeah, and he does so in obedience to a Jor El hologram that he already defied in the first movie. Why would Clark, who grew up on Earth, become so adherent to Kryptonian laws? That whole plot was nonsense.
I'm in the same boat, dude. I grew up hating Superman, but Man of Steel changed my entire perception of the character. It's one of my favorite science fiction films of all time. Great video.
@@ukyuh2505 no it's still talked about because this movie lives rent free in the heads of haters like u. Who can't stop talking and shittting on a movie that came 7 yrs ago.
Back in 2013, I was able to go to a critic's screening of Man of Steel before its wide release. It was in IMAX-3D, & it's STILL one of the best movie experiences that I've ever had.😇 I hope we get more Superman movies soon!😁
the movie gave me a splitting headache. and even when i watch it now it's one fo the worst potentialy amazing movies i've ever seen. i hope we get a good superman movie one day.
I adore this movie, and while I understand some of the criticism. I also disagree with them, because to me this movie is one of the best on exploring my favorite aspect of Superman, his humanity, also that flight scene.
agree completely about Man of Steel. IT is a 4 hour scifi space opera. The film is littered with Hope, it is also about Choice. Each major character makes a Choices which effects their lives completely. With, Superman, he first has to make the choice to be come the Superman. He has to make the choice for Earth, not Krypton. He has to make the choice to stop Zod. Those choices have consequences, which is what BvS is all about. The consequences of our choices. This film is a Game Changer...PERIOD!
For me, Man of Steel gave me a whole new perspective on Superman and is the main reason why I am such a huge fan of the character today. The way Zack Snyder told the story of Kryptons destruction was amazing and something I had never seen before in a super hero film. The way they delved into the abilities of Superman and how he flies, and how the earth and the sun effect his body was just so interesting. And the visuals in this movie were out of this world. The look of how Superman flies and the way he breaks the sound barrier every time he’s soaring through the sky is just exhilarating to watch. Never before have we seen Superman more godlike on screen in a live action film. You really felt like he was on a whole other level of power and it was awesome. I will be forever grateful to Zack Snyder for bringing us this masterpiece of a film. It’s too bad that it’s so under appreciated. It’s almost a crime that something so fantastic can be treated so poorly by the mainstream.
i went into to this film at age 13, not caring about Superman (whether as a character or a superhero) at all. Yet i walked out of the theater caring. And i haven’t been able to get the film out of my head since then. I’ve figured it was several factors that made it strike me so hard 1. the cinematography, 2. the score by Hans Zimmer (one of his best ever in my opinion) and 3. the character of Superman. I haven’t seen it since that first showing 5 years ago but I’m curious to watch it again and see if it still strikes me the same way it did. Because, honesty, I’m a little confused as to why I liked it so much.
I think the reason why you liked so much is that is a version of superman that we've never seen that's why more people like it more than it did when it was released
Man of Steel was a great movie, and Henry cavill played Superman perfectly, not every film has to be like a marvel film, with humour and laughs. DC is a darker universe, and all marvel fans need to realise and accept that, otherwise all well continue to get are this Shazam travesty, where childish humour has ruined it. I also liked Superman v Batman, and Justice League, though Justice League not as much, But Wonder Woman was brilliant; so Marvel fans out there just get used to that darker universe with its darker colours, and enjoy them for what they are.
Shazam is more of a early 2000s superhero movie like the raimi films,shazam and the Lego batman are the two best modern dc movies,MOS and BVS both are God awful in my opinion.
Man of steel may be underated, but its diferent. Thats why i loved this movie, not like the Marvel repetitive formula. (In those years) What gave MoS beauty was the Soundtrack, the character and the villians. Thank you for making this video man. I loved it, Keep making this videos about Super heroes.
"This is a movie that single-handedly inspired my appreciation for Superman" This is EXACTLY what happened to me with this movie. Growing up I knew Superman was like the ultimate superhero, but for me he was boring (he could do anything, never was wrong and had no weakness). But this film put him on a human level: a guy growing up insecure, kinda lonely but the movie has a message of "you can be amazing" that I loved. Extremely underrated movie mainly because it doesn't have comedy. Althou there are two aesthetics choices I didn't like AT ALL: the grainy filter and the incredible desaturation. I never heard a single person defend those choices
hope is not about smiling all the time.... it about Superman being able to grow into a symbol of hope...... no man is born good, it about the experience which develops the sense of hope!!! damn it superman "fan"boys
Agree 100% I'd been enjoying Marvel films up until this point. They weren't setting my world on fire, but they were fun. Sort of remeniscent of the comics I'd been reading since 1978. Sort of. But something was (and still is) amiss. Then I saw MOS. I didn't see it straight away though. I was bored of Superman on any size of screen. The Reeves films were of their time. TV stuff was lacking. Superman Returns was mediocre. So I skipped MOS at imax. Saw it one day when at a loss. Walked out of the cinema completely buzzing, thinking that, finally, a cbm had been made that wasn't just a good comics movie... It was a good movie full stop. It made me feel a whole spectrum of emotions, captured the mood and grandeur of the comics perfectly... And made me fall in love with the character I'd been reading since the 80s all over again. Still the best cbm, by a huge margin.
Man Of Steel is one of the most important and influential movies of my life. The project was announced at a time where I decided to study cinema after high school and it came out right at the end of my second year in college. Just like you said, this movie skyrocketed my fascination for Superman, Lois Lane, DC Comics and Zack Snyder. But it also made me pay a closer attention to the way blockbuster movies are made and advertised. And to me, it's clear from every single aspect of this movie that making it was a labour of love for the creatives involved. The love and respect for the Superman's mythos is transparent, the craftsmanship and its attention to details are staggering. Nothing feels half-assed or barely thought out, all the money that went into it is present on screen. Zack Snyder & co. did not just want to make a cooler and edgier Superman film. They wanted to give him back his place as the most popular and IMPORTANT superhero out there and push the envelope of what a superhero movie could be in terms of scope and scale and what it could say. I don't think that there's been a superhero film as ambitious, well-crafted and cinematic ever since except maybe for BvS, Wonder Woman, Logan and Black Panther. It's sad to see Man Of Steel being negatively compared to Donner's Superman films and the Marvel ones so often and picked apart because it actually tried to shoot for the stars, present bold ideas and be its own thing. But it also makes this video even more enjoyable and gives me hope that one day, it will get the recognition that it always deserved.
This Superman is everything we thrived to be as children, honest, kind, brave, romantic, loyal, fair, selfless and yet, flawed, but self aware... but then, we grow up and begin to experience the world for what it really is, and that light and hope fades. One day, like any other day, we wake up, and there’s only darkness, pain... anger, the world left a scar in our hearts that will never heal... and in the end we look in the mirror and we’ve unwillingly became The Batman. Best superhero movie ever. I’ve watched it countless times. Thank you Zack 🤘P.S. I also shed a tear for the first time ever in a movie, when Costner says “You are my son...” That really broke my heart. 🤫
Victoryagent, I don't get the complaints either. I think it's because the silly Avengers were very popular, so critics decided to trash Man of Steel for being a superhero movie that actually took itself seriously.
@@PSYCHOBEVO the avengers was kinda the problem of man of steel but the other reason why many people didn't like it when it came out is because people entered the theaters expecting a superman like christopher reeves but that's not the case man of steel is about superman trying to become the perfect superman
Words cannot describe how fast I clicked to watch this video. And Thank you iamthatroby, glad to see I'm not alone about how "Man of Steel" is a Superhero, Comic Film Masterpiece because it Undisputedly is. And you nailed it about the criticisms, all the criticisms and hate "Man of Steel" gets are so absurd it's "laughable". But the main reason why the people that criticized and hated the film is because the film (You said it) was too "Authentic", Too serious, too Modern Contemporary, too believable, for them. And sadly most Superhero fan audiences are Not fans of "Realism" in Superhero movies. And as a fellow filmmaker, writer, Artist, myself, that makes very little to no sense at all.
Honestly speaking, MOS's Krypton setting deserves an epic sci-fantasy trilogy to expend the Kryptonian civilization during its heyday greatly expanded the universe of the DCEU.
If I were the operator of the relevant project, I would definitely develop a trilogy of Kryptonian civilization called "The House of El", and end it with the Kryptonian spaceship crashing onto Earth 18,000 years ago.
100% agreement, this movie was way better than it's credited for. I was also a big fan of the BvS movie, my favorite portrayal of both heroes. I plan on sharring this vid on my blog with reference to my BvS critique. Thanks for the good work! Was your heart broken by the JL film?
To many, Superman’s superhumanity makes him unrelatable. To many, Superman is as alien to us as a Kryptonian would be to Earth in real life. But when I see Superman, I see his humanity. I see his kind-heartedness. I see his willingness to do everything he can, for the world that called him their own. How many people, if given absolute power, would be overruled by ego, and corrupted absolutely? How many men would willingly lay down their lives, fighting to the bone, for a mob as weak and as fickle to you as a mob of ants? Superman does all that he can for this world, because this world is all that he's got. The fact that a lot of comic book readers have chosen to ignore and shun Superman for his overwhelming heroism is indicative of the characters in Superman's life who choose to mock or ridicule him simply because they've grown bored of his kindness. Iron Man may be cooler, and Batman may be darker, but Superman is, and always will be, super.
I think people were expecting something campy and colourful, because it’s Superman. Basically, they wanted to go back to the 70s and revisit Donner’s version. Expectations were not met, so they hated it. All of the destruction caused by Zod, they blamed Superman for. Why they took issue with him killing Zod, I’ll never understand. He killed Zod in Superman 2, but I guess people forgot about that, or the fact that he killed Doomsday in the comic books. Superman would never willingly endanger lives in a fight. Yeah, I’ve heard that argument. But what was he supposed to do? I have yet to hear a valid, logical solution to that question. In The Avengers, New York and Sokovia get trashed, and hundreds if not thousands of people died in the process. Why does no one take issue with that? Because they saved the world? So did Superman. Yet people still crap all over Superman and not The Avengers. Double standards. Hypocrisy. Bias.
Jonathan kent not being saved isn't even a writing plot hole. Superman isn't flash, he's fast but he's not that fast. Even when he's fighting kryptonians you can still see them moving from point a to B. Imagine Clark running to his father grabbing him and then the next moment Jonathan is among the people on the side, you really think people won't notice that?
Good point 👍. Also since Snyder touched on Flash not being able to move people for realism purposes, I wonder if that applies to Superman as well. Because it kinda doesn't seem that way in Man of Steel or Batman v Superman. I really think Clark has his Tactile Telekinesis ability
If only the majority of the criticism aimed at snyder, mos, bvs would be more grounded in reality, rather from the haters own personal views. Like:”superman does not smile and is depressed” and like ”snyder does not get character X”, that is not really good arguments...
Dude I came across you with the 'call me by your name' essay. Well done I support your opinion about superman and alot of your other essays. Keep it up you've given me hope and insight!
Definitely my favorite superhero/comic movie. Everything about it if fantastic. Dare I say Perfect. The depiction of Superman was the most...human I’ve seen or read. Absolutely love it.
When I saw the movie I didnt see a superman movie...I saw a movie abt a man trying to find his place in a world that's not his own..trying to come to terms with the fact he will never be normal but try his best to be human....I saw a man at every turn of the film try to do the right thing...people say spiderman is the most relatable superhero and yes he is..but with what Snyder and the writers did, they showed the very human aspect of the last son of Krypton...that he, like every one else here, at each character defining moment of our lives are just trying to make the right choices..but a consequence of making very human choices is that some people will see our choices as foolish...they say Zack doent understand superman...I say that he understands him better than anyone else..
My absolute favorite scene is Clark and Jonathan by the truck, talking about how Clark saved the bus. The pure emotion and not knowing what to do is astounding. Especially when Clark asks “What was I supposed to do? Just let them die?” and how Jonathan has no idea what to tell him.
To me the scene where Clark lock himself in school as he freaks out so they call his mum. Martha tries to calm Clark down and he says the "world is too Big mom" to which she replies in a soothing voice "then make it small" "focus on my voice" "imagine an island" "can you see it?" "then swim towards it". I had a similar emotional breakdown when i was 14, I know it sounds cliché but that's why that scene resonates me.
A couple things: - As a person who doesn't like this movie, I really don't get the "this movie is bland" criticism. The sequence in Krypton shows that this movie has a lot going for it. - I think Jonathan Kent getting a heart attack is more impactful because it shows Superman is not capable of saving everyone or stopping the inevitable. - You did make a great point as to why Jonathan dying from a tornado help elevates the story. - I kinda want to give this movie another go, but the cinematography and color grading are so irritating, that I'd rather not. Great video!
Ping Pong Kimchi at that that point in the story Jonathan doesn't know clack can survive a tornado. He knows he's strong and kind of fast but able go tank a tornado? No. Would you send your son into a tornado if you didn't know of he couldn't survive?
You should check out someone called kk650 who's done a colour-correction of Man of Steel. He removed the yellow tint and boosted colours so that it's more visually appealing. Just Google "Man of Steel kk650 Regrade".
There are 2 types of people: people who like Man of Steel, and people who don't understand Man of Steel. You can't understand this movie and dislike it at the same time. It's great.
Another great moment is when they talk about the plan to take out zod on the air field strip. Superman Looks to General Swanwick for permission to proceed. That minor detail of it's out world not his and his respect for it really gets me. Then his lift off and that shot of him going through the clouds with the Zimmer music blasting.... means so much. We don't deserve superman but we were blessed with him.
I absolutely f*cking love this video - It’s wonderful to see someone who shares my response to MoS put their opinions and opinion to the reactions to the movie in such a lovely and cool way.
I was NEVER a fan of superman. I always thought that Superman is a blant superhero, he is overpowered to match gods so what are his struggles?? Spiderman was always more relatable to me. that was my mind set until Man Of Steel.This superman is humble, have faith in Humanity he love his mother, both of his father's Jor-el and Jonathan made the ultimate sacrifice so he can become a great man. and I also notice the parallels between this superman and Jesus.
The intervention that Warner Bros. made after MOS is a blasphemy against MOS. As a fan, I hope to do something to bring a glimmer of hope. For example, I will spend two years with my gaming industry friends to create some digital assets about Superman and Batman. Of course, Superman refers to the Henry Cavill version, and for Batman, I plan to reboot it and recast Jim Caviezel as Bruce/Batman. I believe this is the right choice. Finally, if we can create a UE5 demo, we will kickstart it.
The scene of Zod's Death is beautiful and poetic. There is so much there. It's almost like a civilization going back to square one. Our civilization represented in an alien's perspective. This representation of Superman reminds me of Dostoievski's Idiot. Great analysis. By the way, I have made a video discussing BvS. Unfortunatelly it is in portuguese.
I dislike this movie, but your video was super well done! Your editing, your points, your evidence, maybe your best video yet. I'm excited for what's to come from this series, it's great to focus on positivity when it comes to film criticism and analysis.
HiTop Films oh hey, my favorite video essay guy commenting on my second favorite video essay guy's video. You're both amazing and I love all of your content, wether I agree with your views or not
While i am a fan and grew up with Reeve, this is how superman should be. This is the best incarnation of him that ive seen. This movie is absolutely wonderful and does so much stuff right.
_I went to see this movie in New York City with my girlfriend during the second week of its release, and on that weekend, the line in downtown Brooklyn for the movie theater wrapped around the entire city block. It was fortunate that my girlfriend was adept at online ticket purchases, sparing us from the lengthy wait._ _The movie's immense popularity led to sold-out shows across every theater in New York City. During the second week, police officers were stationed at the theater to escort people out, preventing them from watching it again without buying another ticket._ _Despite a vocal minority disliking the film and somehow gaining mainstream attention, the movie continues to captivate audiences nearly 14 years later. Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan, the visionary directors behind this masterpiece, have since garnered dedicated followings. However, their association with Warner Bros. Studios appears strained, as both directors face the possibility of being sidelined despite their ongoing popularity and influential work._
Thank you for this. I love the tragedy in this.... A man curious about his people and his culture finds them but unfortunately they are homicidal maniacs and Superman must choose the species that raised him over his own.
I think that the different ways Pa Kent dies in the original film and Man of Steel work for each film respectively. Superman: The Movie was about humility, and gaining/losing great power, so it was humbling to see a small but devastating force that Clark couldn't prevent take his father. Likewise, as you pointed out, Man of Steel is all about faith, which is ultimately a choice. Pa Kent chooses to have faith in Clark's judgment, and Clark has to hold on to faith that it's the right thing to do.
Glad to see someone else who enjoyed this movie and understood Zacks work. I always get hate when I say MoS & BvS UE are my favorite movies ever. I just love all the little details and references Zack puts in those movies. And the action scenes are incredible
I remember the 1st time I saw this movie I was like oh ok it was a good movie but not what I was expecting. I had ridiculously high expectations for the movie. Superman is my favorite superhero. After I left the movie, I sat back and thought about it. I saw the movie again a week later and I was like yes now I understand what Snyder was doing. Ever since then, every time I see the movie I love it more and more. There is so much emotion, concern, kindness, and hope I get out of this movie. I can describe this movie as special . You hit on all the great points to this movie. The scene where the Colonel says,"this man is not our enemy" Superman sees the hope in humanity. Great video.
I'm not going to be one of those guys who belittles your opinion but I just wanted to touch upon a point you made that I wholeheartedly disagree with. I think you miss the point of why Pa Kent dying of a heart attack DOES serve an important purpose. It's something that even superman can't save him from. As it is in the Man of Steel is that he was FORCED to make that CHOICE. That scene really solidifies what's off in DCEU superman for me. Being superman is a burden that's thrust upon him. Even though I disagree with your take...good video.
Sure, but that’s not what the movie is trying to say. The film has more to say about choice and hope than whether or not Superman can save everyone. In my opinion, it’s hard to criticise a film for not doing something, when it clearly has no interest in actually doing it,
iamthatroby I don't see where you see Hope in this superman other than the fact that his symbol means hope. I would love to discuss this at length but honestly I wouldn't know where the line would cross into troll territory on the comment thread so I'll leave it at that...lol I can understand someone liking this superman but I don't and that's probably not going to change.
Nah, I can pretty much you’ll guarantee that you’ll love this Superman once they do a proper sequel and do it the way Cavill has wanted to do Superman.
If you can't see where we see hope in this Superman then you're missing a lot of what the movie is telling you. Also, Pa Kent dying from a heart attack taught Reeve's Superman that he can't save everyone... a lesson that he disregards at the end of the movie by turning back time itself to save Lois.
Checking your video again before the Zack Snyder Justice League is released on 18.03.21. You were one of the first to defend the Snyder Vision. Much Respect!😉
Alex Strucker I could've said it's a piece of shit film and a terrible superman movie that loses everything good about the character. See how it's better not to say that's
+Devon Palmer And I would say you are wrong and the horrendous bad parody of christopher reeves in justice league and the donner films ruin the potential for a really good character.
I remember first watching Man of steel and liking the movie at best. Over time and after several viewings I've grown to love the film and appreciate it for its themes and how the story was presented. I now see Man Of Steel as a masterpiece of the genre. Many superhero films have "fun" , "cool" or "stand out" moments, but I can't recall a superhero movie that presented so many "POWERFUL" moments throughout further highlighted by what I believe to be the best overall soundtrack ever put together for a superhero film.
I just want to point out that the entire terraforming scene is a great example as to HOW you get your audience to care about a city. Zod's the one who staged the world engine to take place right in the middle of metropolis. NOT Superman. To compare and contrast; when the avengers came out about the year prior i was bored seeing a bunch of empty cars explode. Same thing with bayformers 1, I did not give a damn about anything around them at all. Here? People near the engine are getting lifted up and slammed right the fuck down to the ground, missiles and jet fighters can't get close to the terraformer without wobbling out of control and hitting the city instead, destroying nearby buildings to the point of collapse. Now some might call it ripping off imagery of 9/11 to get an emotion out of you but reminder that buildings have been destroyed since POWER RANGERS back in the early 90s, more after that, and BEFORE and AFTER this movie came out. It's an alien invasion where they're trying to turn the world into krypton with a gravity slammer, I expect serious shit to go down and I'm glad Zack didn't hold any punches back. other than that, idk what else to tell yah, you just gotta separate reality from fiction.
Jonathan dying from a heart attack shows Clark he can't save everyone. MoS Jonathan suicide is pretty daft in my opinion. Pissed me off watching Kevin Costner be like "No Clark" 🤦🏽♂️
It would be a fine lesson for Superman that he can't save everyone, if the Superman 1978 movie actually stuck to that message, but by the end of the film, he learns how to reverse time, which means he pretty much can save anyone he wants, undermining the entire message.
Yeah that reversing time ending was pretty shambolic! 😂 Interesting fact: that was supposed to be the ending for the second film and Richard Donner wasn't too sure on that one either.
KingKhanAbz he did that because he felt the world is still not ready to know his secret and that he preferred to die than expose his own son to the world.
rogue24 1 it's not shallow. It's an honest opinion and I still think it was dumb. While I get the points he's making and how it fits thematically, it's still just plain dumb and I'll tell you why. Throughout the film Jonathan Kent is afraid of what will happen if Clark is exposed so he keeps telling him to hide his abilities and dies for that. Problem is, Clark's been doing that his whole life without any consequence of that fear until Zod shows up and forces him out. Superman as a character almost never makes his own decisions and the plot is what drives him. So if Clark could go around saving people until his goddamn 20's, he could have saved his fathers life. Again I get what they were going for, but it was inconsistent because never does he ever experience consequences for using his abilities in public. And that's the biggest issue with the notion Jonathan Kent suggests.
Nope Killing one of his lesser problem in this movie.Superman felt nothing but a hunk without personality.Did you really feel Lois and Clark love felt natural?How about injecting Dark Knight's realistic tone to a movie about Flying alien with ice breath and lazer eyes.And let's show his like a religious figure.WB doesnt awkledge this.İF you wanna add some reality to story dont shove people eyes and dont ruin to joy of movie.Marvel adding realistic things like Terrorism,PTSD,Goverment opression but they still know This is Superhero movies made by make people enjoy and escape from real life for a couple hours.How about Mos defenders.MOS killed in 1930 reeee Zack Snyder a genious and you dont understand this movie.Yeah nice excuses.This movie had any potential for build a universe on because they hint anything about there is other heroes even Batman working in next city over 30 years.
@@sunsetman22 İ don't need to try.You said only reason ppl hate this movie BC of killer Superman and i listed flaws of movie.So wht is your only reason to defeat this movie?Edgy Superman? Try to make sense.
@@sunsetman22 Ow cinematografy of nonsensical back and forth flashback?What acting you are talking about? George Clooney was barely even bother to acting in this movie.People was fucking lifeless in this movie.Only life sign in this movie was Zod.At least he was funny.Others just straight face with no emotion.Cast?Oh sure man Lois lane as Amy Adams was spot on casting .She was awesome at being useless to plot. Try again.Also eloborate.Also why you even trying Henry Cavill admit mistake of this movies and left to Dceu.
The movie is pretty terribly paced to me, the relationship with clark and lois is prematurely developed, his origin story was very rushed. His fathers death was still dumb because he wasnt even trying to live. Snyder isnt a very good director when it comes to story but he can direct decent eye candy movies
PSYCHOBEVO didnt say he wrote it. Said he terribly directed it, and its absolutely hard to believe that snyder didnt have a small piece in any of the writing. Either way the movie wasnt presented well on the stories end when it came to pacing, that is normally a director issue
MOS & BvS are easily my two favorite superhero films of all-time. It pisses me off when anyone says Snyder doesn't "understand" these characters. He literally gave us the most comic accurate Batman and he made me care about Superman. A superhero, I have never cared for until I saw MOS. Anyway, this was a GREAT video!
For me, Batfleck is basically what if rorschach and the batman who laughs Is A GOOD HEROIC PERSON And Henry Supes is basically The comedian and Night Owl as an alien and a good heroic guy Since Danny is self Doubt and Eddie Blacke Is American Pride.
If anyone wants to know my thoughts on Batman V Superman: th-cam.com/video/Gy90ZlbMJ_o/w-d-xo.html
thanks for posting..good job
Is this meant to be tongue-in-cheek performance art?
I can't tell if you're being sincere or just joking...
no thanks
iamthatroby - You’ve managed to give a good breakdown of what the film was trying to accomplish and delivered a well thought-out explanation for your love of the film. For me, there were “parts” of the movie that were really good. However by the time Clark Kent puts on the costume, the emotional weight and solid storytelling begins to lose a lot of momentum that did not carry me through the rest of the film. Overall, I think it was a decent film that tried to be something more than the sum of its parts.
I feel man of steel was a good movie but dc shared unvirse ruined when this movie came out alot of people at my highschool like it talk abut and the hate train came with announcement batman vs superman and putting to much in one flim and spoiling the movie in the trailer but what dc should of did was make man of steel 2 first and gave us more of connection with a new superman this a character we see multiple versions of him on screen threw movies cartoons man of steel gave us new version the fact most people don't like new things and are scared of change and Christopher reeves was known as the only live action superman and had a huge fan base with his image hell even superman returns tried to keep the same feel and was scared to give something new this did and warner bros gave rushed unvirse instead of a journey with a new character and without sequel i feel they didn't give this movie a fighting chance show what henry cavil could of gave us i feel we would of gotten a light hearted sequel but we got to many character changes in every dceu movies that all felt different.
I absolutely hated live action portrayals of Superman.
Felt they were to cheesy, Superman never really uses his full powers in a fight. All he does is lift heavy objects or use his powers in the most awkward way possible to save the day.
But then MoS came out and Superman actually felt like a Superhero. The display of power, the development of his character, the reaction of the people to an alien and the serious tone made MoS an amazing movie.
It was everything I expected from a Superhero movie. Not to boring, not a complete comedy, and amazing action.
I feel like Henry Cavil’s Superman is better than any other version we’ve had before.
FumeKnight I agree.
thank you
cuz now I don't have to write anything
Yes bro, you are right.
Yes.
Just read All Star Superman, and shut up.
For the mere boldness in sharing and standing by your opinion, you get my thumbs up, man.
Zack Snyder's Clark Kent:
* Saves about ten kids and a bus driver from drowning
* Protects bullies from his own wrath (instead crushing fence)
* Lets Jonathan Kent be killed by tornado (to protect mankind from possible global devastation his secret becoming public knowledge might cause)
* Saves rig workers trapped on rig
* Saves rig workers and helicopter crew from collapsing rig
* Tries to protect a waitress from harassment by drunk trucker
* Protects drunk trucker from his own wrath (instead taking out his frustration on said trucker's truck)
* Saves Lois Lane from a robot
* Saves Lois from internal bleeding
* Chooses to protect mankind by surrendering (and making sure Lois isn't mistreated by the military) and willingly being handed over to General Zod
* Saves Lois from plummeting to Earth in a damaged space-pod
* Protects Martha from Zod's wrath (in a reckless way that endangers Smallville)
* Tells the locals of Smallville to get inside
* Saves fighter pilot from Faora
* Saves soldier falling out of helicopter (probably the very soldier who just shot him in the face with a minigun)
* Saves Colonel Hardy from Faora
* Saves Earth's mankind by destroying the World Engine (fully aware he would be weakened in its presence)
* Protects Lois, Hardy and Hamilton from Zod firing at plane they're in by ramming himself into scout ship
* Chooses to wreck the scout ship (including the Genesis chamber, possibly the last hope for the Kryptonian bloodlines) for the sake of Earth's mankind
* Saves Lois from falling to her death
* Protects as many as he can from Zod by keeping Zod's focus on himself (Zod having sworn to kill everyone on the planet.)
* Saves Earth's mankind (again) by killing Zod (since he can't exactly sit on a fellow Kryptonian until one of them dies of old age)
Haters gonna hate but jeez, people.
But he didn't save enough cats out of trees or smile enough. :3
Man, I should better write that down, ha, and detractors say he lets people die
But he didn't fly off into space and wink at the camera... Most imp He didn't smile..🤦
But he didn’t find some old lady’s frying pan and come up with a joke while making a smiley face.
He saved his mother which is an old lady
Superman's first flight is one of the best scenes from any superhero film.
It's a lot better than some of the Mickey mouse marvel movies lol.iron man 1 was damn good though part 2 to me just as good civil war and winter soldier are some of the finer ones also besides Ragnarok I couldn't get into Thor.going back to d.c. besides tdk trilogy definitely mos and ww are the absolute best.
Far as older ones idk if anyone can truly touch Toby McGuire's take on Spidey . heck even spiderman 3 isn't as bad as ppl think.k.burtons old Batman movies are classics.
filmfan24 going even further back Superman 1 and 2 wow.with all that said mos get way to much hate the score the darkness is great.fairly good acting a kick ass fight. but but superman don't kill well hell everybody is always saying he's to damned good for modern time's.well that's what ppl wanted thanks what a lot of ppl got.
indeed
@@ezekielglenn6155 where is your grammar at bro?
MoS is a modern day masterpiece. Haters be damned.
Zombeastsqurl
Damn straight
He levels smallville before leveling metropolis!!
agreed
Damn right
I deed
I have been a Superman fan for about 45 years, and I have disagreed with the general critiques of "Man of Steel" and "Batman v Superman" wholeheartedly. I think your video hit on all the reasons I love this movie and some that were deeper than I had gone. Thanks for making this video.
Totally welcome, man!
Amen
Saw Man of Steel 7 times in cinemas, unbelievable film. Thank you Zack Snyder :)
12 Lord help me.... every format it was offered in. Even went to a drive-in.
that is the only time in my life I have ever done anything even close to that. At most 2 times for a movie in theaters, and that was rare. Less I be confused for a fanatical dork. (I've seen MoS well over 50 times now. It still amazes me.)
I saw it 4 times in the cinemas!
Joseph that’s actually impressive lol
I watch man of Steel in blue ray on monthly basis 😀
Every time I see the first flight scene, I get goosebumps all over my body
It's an epic scene
I saw the title and i just had to click. It's nice to see a video talking about this movie positively, It's far from being a bland movie.
@Michael Ferraro why would you even buy them then? Or keep them long enough to have a few to give away...?
@Michael Ferraro I seen man of steel 4 times so I disagree
@@57firewithme I legit tried to GIVE away my MCU collection, but none wanted it... It's not even a joke!
Man of steel is the best dc movie, excluding dk trilogy. Its fucking amazing, the cgi is perfect, really looked believable. I loved the fight with fiora and supes. And dont get me started on the soundtracks... just wow.
The great thing about dc movies they become great with each re-watch...marvel few movies are rewatchable but not many
Actually Jonathan Kent dies because he is scared of what could happen to his son if he is exposed to the world.
The choice that Jonathan makes cements the fact that he is willing to die so that his son lives free of any persecution.
The fact that Clark dies 18 months after exposing himself to the world further proves that Jonathan was right in his fears.
And without that sacrifice, his son would have lasted even less time on this Earth.
Jonathan is a man scared that what makes his son different is going to be exactly why people might try to manipulate, use or assassinate his kid.
Which is a far more powerful message to our world than people might think at first.
The last shot of Jonathan Kent on Man of Steel also displays that, it is not supposed to be interpreted literally, it's not something that actually happened, rather it's Jonathan Kent looking down on his kid and, while worried about his fate, his expression also shows curiosity and hope that everything goes right for his son, now that he is exposed to the world.
The kid wearing the cape is how Jonathan sees his son, still his kid, and he still cares for him deeply.
Martha Kent is also on that scene and she is hopeful about all of this, maybe because Clark is also hopeful about it, but Jonathan has a wider view on things, which is why he doesn't smile when his kid wears the cape (aka become Superman).
Jonathan Kent in Man of Steel is the best father I have seen on any movie by far, and I recognize that easily because my father was the complete opposite.
Makes sense. The kents lived in fear of the govt showing up at their door. In flashpoint for example superman never became a superhero because of it, and in one of 90's batman limited series, cant recall the name, batman discovers a hidden research facility where they were experimenting on some superbeing's corpse, which we later know it was kal el. The ending of BvS proved pappa kent right, and Im not even talking about him sacrificing himself to save the planet, but the scene where the president of the united states deems superman an expendable asset and nukes him and doomsday in a desperate attempt to get rid of the latter. But hey, its easier to just shout like a raging kid at the screen lol
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its almot like the fathers in the movie are better developed characters than the main character. and when the main character isnt developed at all thats not really very hard. we know one thing about johnathan kent, that he is concerned about his son. that still makes him a one dimensional character. they wrote him to be that and nothing else and the pay off is a giant cgi monster some nut job created stabs him in the chest. this isn't superman done wlel. it's ham fisted garbage.
@@ge2719 How many layers did you need from a character who was basically on screen barely 20 minutes? It can't be layering for layerings sake. Jonathan Kent was PIVOTAL to Clark's conflict. He grew up holding himself back bc Jon believed humanity was the worst, when Clark wanted to believe it was not. Call Jon one dimensional. But he was the story's heart, and that matters more.
its not so much that he is one dimensional, but thats he is one dimensional and hes the most developed characer in the movie after the other dead dad character and way more than the lmain character of the movie.
maybe they could have set up absolutely any reason why he felt humanity was the worst and couldnt be trusted to know who clark was. or any of what he actually was worried about instea dof vague overly dramatic nothing speak that sounds good for a trailer.
oh and did i really need to repeat exactly what i had already written?
How can you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Holy crap Zaragoz, never expected to see you here. Do you even remember me?
Mercurius Rex yeet
Zaragoz Rex Simple, by standing up for how he truly feels instead of caving in to satisfy “It’s too dark!” crowd.
Zaragoz Rex yeah the "It's to dark crowd" are a bit annoying.that is what a lot not everyone but most bitched about for decades superman is to good b.s..
I think I'm the only guy who caught the reference
I don't get the people who praise Superman 1978 for having Jonathan Kent die of a heart attack, because it supposedly teaches Superman that he can't save everyone. It would be a fine lesson if the Superman 1978 movie actually stuck to that message, but by the end of the film, he learns how to reverse time, which means he pretty much can save anyone he wants, undermining the entire message.
White Portuguese, yes, good points. I agree 👍
+PSYCHOBEVO Lets also not forget superman gives up his powers in superman 2 while 3 kryptonians run amok because he wants to have sex with lois.
reaper39, yeah, and he does so in obedience to a Jor El hologram that he already defied in the first movie. Why would Clark, who grew up on Earth, become so adherent to Kryptonian laws? That whole plot was nonsense.
@@PSYCHOBEVO Looking at your main comment here, you're right, he could have saved Jonathan Kent by traveling back in time
@@kevinnevada5342 clark never thought of himself as a god who controls everything
Great movie, great themes and a great score. Stop hating Man of Steel people
The score is one of the best movie scores ever
Ikr.. People hate zack's movies for the sake of hating his movie
I'm in the same boat, dude. I grew up hating Superman, but Man of Steel changed my entire perception of the character. It's one of my favorite science fiction films of all time. Great video.
All Star Superman is the best story.
@@mayotango1317 I agree 100%
@@MysticalGreenBeanie Man of Steel is just so empy, lack of soul.
@@mayotango1317 I disagree
@@MysticalGreenBeanie MCU fanboy.
This is one the only Superhero films that makes me tear up. So when people call it emotionally cold or flat...I'm genuinely flabbergasted.
This movie will be remembered as a classic and the peak of superhero movies, as usual super on point ROBYYYY
It'll never be a classic, just saying.
Now don't you think that's a little too much?
sanjay gupta nope. still talked about till this day a mark of a true classic in the making
@@JonathanMutsinzi1998 well it's talked about because of sick fanbase licking a mediocre movie everywhere.
@@ukyuh2505 no it's still talked about because this movie lives rent free in the heads of haters like u. Who can't stop talking and shittting on a movie that came 7 yrs ago.
Why people didn't understand this movie because is that this movie released in an era where people only expected humour in Comic Book Movies!
Back in 2013, I was able to go to a critic's screening of Man of Steel before its wide release. It was in IMAX-3D, & it's STILL one of the best movie experiences that I've ever had.😇 I hope we get more Superman movies soon!😁
the movie gave me a splitting headache. and even when i watch it now it's one fo the worst potentialy amazing movies i've ever seen. i hope we get a good superman movie one day.
@@ge2719 Disagree with you but ok.
@@ge2719 Keep on the hating pal, you're getting there someday
@@Merdicano I'm hating because a movie gave me a migraine? Try again idiot
@@ge2719 OK buddy ;)
My favourite DCEU movie.
Same here!
I adore this movie, and while I understand some of the criticism. I also disagree with them, because to me this movie is one of the best on exploring my favorite aspect of Superman, his humanity, also that flight scene.
There is nothing to understand in the criticism of this movie as 90% of it is just pure hate, ignorance or some hidden political/corporate agenda.
Pablo Ocon I humbly agree with you
@@sbonel3224 true
What humanity? He is a emotionless puppet.
@@mayotango1317 No. Captain Marvel is an emotionless puppet!
Ah a positive dceu essay refreshing
agree completely about Man of Steel. IT is a 4 hour scifi space opera. The film is littered with Hope, it is also about Choice. Each major character makes a Choices which effects their lives completely. With, Superman, he first has to make the choice to be come the Superman. He has to make the choice for Earth, not Krypton. He has to make the choice to stop Zod.
Those choices have consequences, which is what BvS is all about. The consequences of our choices.
This film is a Game Changer...PERIOD!
Buddy, it only lasts 2.5 hours.
For me, Man of Steel gave me a whole new perspective on Superman and is the main reason why I am such a huge fan of the character today. The way Zack Snyder told the story of Kryptons destruction was amazing and something I had never seen before in a super hero film. The way they delved into the abilities of Superman and how he flies, and how the earth and the sun effect his body was just so interesting. And the visuals in this movie were out of this world. The look of how Superman flies and the way he breaks the sound barrier every time he’s soaring through the sky is just exhilarating to watch. Never before have we seen Superman more godlike on screen in a live action film. You really felt like he was on a whole other level of power and it was awesome.
I will be forever grateful to Zack Snyder for bringing us this masterpiece of a film. It’s too bad that it’s so under appreciated. It’s almost a crime that something so fantastic can be treated so poorly by the mainstream.
i went into to this film at age 13, not caring about Superman (whether as a character or a superhero) at all. Yet i walked out of the theater caring. And i haven’t been able to get the film out of my head since then. I’ve figured it was several factors that made it strike me so hard 1. the cinematography, 2. the score by Hans Zimmer (one of his best ever in my opinion) and 3. the character of Superman. I haven’t seen it since that first showing 5 years ago but I’m curious to watch it again and see if it still strikes me the same way it did. Because, honesty, I’m a little confused as to why I liked it so much.
Watch it again. It gets better with each viewing.
Right? Funny how you only liked it cause you were a kid without standards
Leonard Deal Wow, ain’t you a real crowdpleaser? Feel good about yourself? Don’t.
@@Dontgorunning It does, I have on DVD, and it's a thrill
I think the reason why you liked so much is that is a version of superman that we've never seen that's why more people like it more than it did when it was released
Agreed
Man of Steel was a great movie, and Henry cavill played Superman perfectly, not every film has to be like a marvel film, with humour and laughs.
DC is a darker universe, and all marvel fans need to realise and accept that, otherwise all well continue to get are this Shazam travesty, where childish humour has ruined it.
I also liked Superman v Batman, and Justice League, though Justice League not as much, But Wonder Woman was brilliant; so Marvel fans out there just get used to that darker universe with its darker colours, and enjoy them for what they are.
Shazam was supposed to be like that tho lol. MOS is amazing tho
Shazam is more of a early 2000s superhero movie like the raimi films,shazam and the Lego batman are the two best modern dc movies,MOS and BVS both are God awful in my opinion.
People couldn't take that there was a superhero film that didn't make jokes every 5 minutes... I love man of steel by the same reasons you do
Thank you for this video. Man of Steel was one of my favorite films, and you perfectly understood the spirit and themes of this movie.
Man of steel may be underated, but its diferent. Thats why i loved this movie, not like the Marvel repetitive formula. (In those years)
What gave MoS beauty was the Soundtrack, the character and the villians.
Thank you for making this video man. I loved it, Keep making this videos about Super heroes.
I could literally watch Man of Steel everyday for the rest of my life and not get tired of it. Very underrated. Great video guy!!
"This is a movie that single-handedly inspired my appreciation for Superman"
This is EXACTLY what happened to me with this movie. Growing up I knew Superman was like the ultimate superhero, but for me he was boring (he could do anything, never was wrong and had no weakness). But this film put him on a human level: a guy growing up insecure, kinda lonely but the movie has a message of "you can be amazing" that I loved. Extremely underrated movie mainly because it doesn't have comedy.
Althou there are two aesthetics choices I didn't like AT ALL: the grainy filter and the incredible desaturation. I never heard a single person defend those choices
hope is not about smiling all the time.... it about Superman being able to grow into a symbol of hope...... no man is born good, it about the experience which develops the sense of hope!!! damn it superman "fan"boys
Agree 100%
I'd been enjoying Marvel films up until this point. They weren't setting my world on fire, but they were fun. Sort of remeniscent of the comics I'd been reading since 1978. Sort of. But something was (and still is) amiss.
Then I saw MOS. I didn't see it straight away though. I was bored of Superman on any size of screen. The Reeves films were of their time. TV stuff was lacking. Superman Returns was mediocre. So I skipped MOS at imax. Saw it one day when at a loss.
Walked out of the cinema completely buzzing, thinking that, finally, a cbm had been made that wasn't just a good comics movie... It was a good movie full stop. It made me feel a whole spectrum of emotions, captured the mood and grandeur of the comics perfectly... And made me fall in love with the character I'd been reading since the 80s all over again.
Still the best cbm, by a huge margin.
I love the fact that you did this. I really thought I was the only one that liked this movie.
Man Of Steel is one of the most important and influential movies of my life. The project was announced at a time where I decided to study cinema after high school and it came out right at the end of my second year in college. Just like you said, this movie skyrocketed my fascination for Superman, Lois Lane, DC Comics and Zack Snyder. But it also made me pay a closer attention to the way blockbuster movies are made and advertised. And to me, it's clear from every single aspect of this movie that making it was a labour of love for the creatives involved. The love and respect for the Superman's mythos is transparent, the craftsmanship and its attention to details are staggering. Nothing feels half-assed or barely thought out, all the money that went into it is present on screen. Zack Snyder & co. did not just want to make a cooler and edgier Superman film. They wanted to give him back his place as the most popular and IMPORTANT superhero out there and push the envelope of what a superhero movie could be in terms of scope and scale and what it could say. I don't think that there's been a superhero film as ambitious, well-crafted and cinematic ever since except maybe for BvS, Wonder Woman, Logan and Black Panther.
It's sad to see Man Of Steel being negatively compared to Donner's Superman films and the Marvel ones so often and picked apart because it actually tried to shoot for the stars, present bold ideas and be its own thing. But it also makes this video even more enjoyable and gives me hope that one day, it will get the recognition that it always deserved.
If our heroes can't change how are they supposed to evolve? Zack understood. Thank you Zack.
This Superman is everything we thrived to be as children, honest, kind, brave, romantic, loyal, fair, selfless and yet, flawed, but self aware... but then, we grow up and begin to experience the world for what it really is, and that light and hope fades. One day, like any other day, we wake up, and there’s only darkness, pain... anger, the world left a scar in our hearts that will never heal... and in the end we look in the mirror and we’ve unwillingly became The Batman. Best superhero movie ever. I’ve watched it countless times. Thank you Zack 🤘P.S. I also shed a tear for the first time ever in a movie, when Costner says “You are my son...” That really broke my heart. 🤫
I always wondered why everyone seemed to hate Mos so much
Victoryagent, I don't get the complaints either. I think it's because the silly Avengers were very popular, so critics decided to trash Man of Steel for being a superhero movie that actually took itself seriously.
@@PSYCHOBEVO the avengers was kinda the problem of man of steel but the other reason why many people didn't like it when it came out is because people entered the theaters expecting a superman like christopher reeves but that's not the case man of steel is about superman trying to become the perfect superman
Words cannot describe how fast I clicked to watch this video. And Thank you iamthatroby, glad to see I'm not alone about how "Man of Steel" is a Superhero, Comic Film Masterpiece because it Undisputedly is. And you nailed it about the criticisms, all the criticisms and hate "Man of Steel" gets are so absurd it's "laughable". But the main reason why the people that criticized and hated the film is because the film (You said it) was too "Authentic", Too serious, too Modern Contemporary, too believable, for them. And sadly most Superhero fan audiences are Not fans of "Realism" in Superhero movies. And as a fellow filmmaker, writer, Artist, myself, that makes very little to no sense at all.
Not all superhero fan audiences hate realism. Because if that's the case, the Nolan trilogy would have gotten bad reviews.
*_hope is like your car keys_*
Alex Beamer easy to lose but if you look around enough, it's usually close by
D i s g u s t i n g
#ReleaseTheSnyderCut
@@internetdinosaur8810 aye you still alive? Your wish came true.
Honestly speaking, MOS's Krypton setting deserves an epic sci-fantasy trilogy to expend the Kryptonian civilization during its heyday greatly expanded the universe of the DCEU.
Sth just like Dune.
If I were the operator of the relevant project, I would definitely develop a trilogy of Kryptonian civilization called "The House of El", and end it with the Kryptonian spaceship crashing onto Earth 18,000 years ago.
I bloody love this film. Thank you so much for making this.
100% agreement, this movie was way better than it's credited for. I was also a big fan of the BvS movie, my favorite portrayal of both heroes. I plan on sharring this vid on my blog with reference to my BvS critique. Thanks for the good work! Was your heart broken by the JL film?
What your thoughts about ZSJL?
To many, Superman’s superhumanity makes him unrelatable. To many, Superman is as alien to us as a Kryptonian would be to Earth in real life. But when I see Superman, I see his humanity. I see his kind-heartedness. I see his willingness to do everything he can, for the world that called him their own.
How many people, if given absolute power, would be overruled by ego, and corrupted absolutely? How many men would willingly lay down their lives, fighting to the bone, for a mob as weak and as fickle to you as a mob of ants?
Superman does all that he can for this world, because this world is all that he's got. The fact that a lot of comic book readers have chosen to ignore and shun Superman for his overwhelming heroism is indicative of the characters in Superman's life who choose to mock or ridicule him simply because they've grown bored of his kindness.
Iron Man may be cooler, and Batman may be darker, but Superman is, and always will be, super.
I think people were expecting something campy and colourful, because it’s Superman. Basically, they wanted to go back to the 70s and revisit Donner’s version. Expectations were not met, so they hated it. All of the destruction caused by Zod, they blamed Superman for. Why they took issue with him killing Zod, I’ll never understand. He killed Zod in Superman 2, but I guess people forgot about that, or the fact that he killed Doomsday in the comic books. Superman would never willingly endanger lives in a fight. Yeah, I’ve heard that argument. But what was he supposed to do? I have yet to hear a valid, logical solution to that question. In The Avengers, New York and Sokovia get trashed, and hundreds if not thousands of people died in the process. Why does no one take issue with that? Because they saved the world? So did Superman. Yet people still crap all over Superman and not The Avengers. Double standards. Hypocrisy. Bias.
For me,
Man Of Steel is basically
Superman Begins
From Batmab Begins tone
And A Watchmen tone
@@kartikadewi3270 and somehow Snyder makes it work.
@@Spiderstan2000 and even He makes MOS basically humanoid alien invasion version of The Holocaust and 911
This movie makes me overcome my pain when my dad's gone.
Jonathan kent not being saved isn't even a writing plot hole. Superman isn't flash, he's fast but he's not that fast. Even when he's fighting kryptonians you can still see them moving from point a to B. Imagine Clark running to his father grabbing him and then the next moment Jonathan is among the people on the side, you really think people won't notice that?
Good point 👍. Also since Snyder touched on Flash not being able to move people for realism purposes, I wonder if that applies to Superman as well. Because it kinda doesn't seem that way in Man of Steel or Batman v Superman. I really think Clark has his Tactile Telekinesis ability
I am so glad That someone appreciates this movie I am proud of your work here
Man of steel is my favourite movie in general!
Mine too! I have watched it more than 100 times completely
If only the majority of the criticism aimed at snyder, mos, bvs would be more grounded in reality, rather from the haters own personal views. Like:”superman does not smile and is depressed” and like ”snyder does not get character X”, that is not really good arguments...
Twisted fricked up versions of iconic legacy DC characters, that says it all. ;)
Dude I came across you with the 'call me by your name' essay. Well done I support your opinion about superman and alot of your other essays. Keep it up you've given me hope and insight!
Thanks, David!
Awesome video, absolutely loved. Honestly brought tears to my eye when I saw certain scenes
Definitely my favorite superhero/comic movie. Everything about it if fantastic. Dare I say Perfect. The depiction of Superman was the most...human I’ve seen or read. Absolutely love it.
When I saw the movie I didnt see a superman movie...I saw a movie abt a man trying to find his place in a world that's not his own..trying to come to terms with the fact he will never be normal but try his best to be human....I saw a man at every turn of the film try to do the right thing...people say spiderman is the most relatable superhero and yes he is..but with what Snyder and the writers did, they showed the very human aspect of the last son of Krypton...that he, like every one else here, at each character defining moment of our lives are just trying to make the right choices..but a consequence of making very human choices is that some people will see our choices as foolish...they say Zack doent understand superman...I say that he understands him better than anyone else..
I agree. I like the idea of this being a "Clark Kent Film"
Man of Steel is one of the truly great films based on a comic book property. This video is superb!
im with ya man i loved man of steel and i hated superman as a character b4
My absolute favorite scene is Clark and Jonathan by the truck, talking about how Clark saved the bus. The pure emotion and not knowing what to do is astounding. Especially when Clark asks “What was I supposed to do? Just let them die?” and how Jonathan has no idea what to tell him.
Didn't cross your mind that he wanted him to kill the kids.
@@Lone432345 maybe also means NO.
To me the scene where Clark lock himself in school as he freaks out so they call his mum. Martha tries to calm Clark down and he says the "world is too Big mom" to which she replies in a soothing voice "then make it small" "focus on my voice" "imagine an island" "can you see it?" "then swim towards it".
I had a similar emotional breakdown when i was 14, I know it sounds cliché but that's why that scene resonates me.
A couple things:
- As a person who doesn't like this movie, I really don't get the "this movie is bland" criticism. The sequence in Krypton shows that this movie has a lot going for it.
- I think Jonathan Kent getting a heart attack is more impactful because it shows Superman is not capable of saving everyone or stopping the inevitable.
- You did make a great point as to why Jonathan dying from a tornado help elevates the story.
- I kinda want to give this movie another go, but the cinematography and color grading are so irritating, that I'd rather not.
Great video!
Ping Pong Kimchi at that that point in the story Jonathan doesn't know clack can survive a tornado. He knows he's strong and kind of fast but able go tank a tornado? No. Would you send your son into a tornado if you didn't know of he couldn't survive?
You should check out someone called kk650 who's done a colour-correction of Man of Steel. He removed the yellow tint and boosted colours so that it's more visually appealing. Just Google "Man of Steel kk650 Regrade".
Ping Pong Kimchi Funny how the visuals of a movie can really make a person be interested in a movie or completly try to avoid it
Ping Pong Kimchi i actually think the opposite about the grade and cinematography
TechDevoted
Yeah right there with you!
For all of DC's faults (and there are many) The Dark Knight, Man of Steel and Watchmen are the three best comic book movies of all time
There are 2 types of people: people who like Man of Steel, and people who don't understand Man of Steel.
You can't understand this movie and dislike it at the same time. It's great.
Another great moment is when they talk about the plan to take out zod on the air field strip. Superman Looks to General Swanwick for permission to proceed. That minor detail of it's out world not his and his respect for it really gets me. Then his lift off and that shot of him going through the clouds with the Zimmer music blasting.... means so much. We don't deserve superman but we were blessed with him.
I absolutely f*cking love this video - It’s wonderful to see someone who shares my response to MoS put their opinions and opinion to the reactions to the movie in such a lovely and cool way.
I was NEVER a fan of superman. I always thought that Superman is a blant superhero, he is overpowered to match gods so what are his struggles?? Spiderman was always more relatable to me. that was my mind set until Man Of Steel.This superman is humble, have faith in Humanity he love his mother, both of his father's Jor-el and Jonathan made the ultimate sacrifice so he can become a great man. and I also notice the parallels between this superman and Jesus.
Man of Steel kicked ass. I absolutely fucking love this film.
The intervention that Warner Bros. made after MOS is a blasphemy against MOS. As a fan, I hope to do something to bring a glimmer of hope. For example, I will spend two years with my gaming industry friends to create some digital assets about Superman and Batman. Of course, Superman refers to the Henry Cavill version, and for Batman, I plan to reboot it and recast Jim Caviezel as Bruce/Batman. I believe this is the right choice. Finally, if we can create a UE5 demo, we will kickstart it.
The scene of Zod's Death is beautiful and poetic. There is so much there. It's almost like a civilization going back to square one. Our civilization represented in an alien's perspective. This representation of Superman reminds me of Dostoievski's Idiot. Great analysis. By the way, I have made a video discussing BvS. Unfortunatelly it is in portuguese.
I dislike this movie, but your video was super well done! Your editing, your points, your evidence, maybe your best video yet. I'm excited for what's to come from this series, it's great to focus on positivity when it comes to film criticism and analysis.
HiTop Films hey hi top!
HiTop Films oh hey, my favorite video essay guy commenting on my second favorite video essay guy's video. You're both amazing and I love all of your content, wether I agree with your views or not
impossible to just be like "hey nice video" without making sure everyone knows YOU DISLIKE MAN OF STEEL wowie
HiTop Films Your opinion is respected
While i am a fan and grew up with Reeve, this is how superman should be. This is the best incarnation of him that ive seen. This movie is absolutely wonderful and does so much stuff right.
“Man of Steel is the best superman movie ever made"
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.....
Great video, Roby
Great video.
_I went to see this movie in New York City with my girlfriend during the second week of its release, and on that weekend, the line in downtown Brooklyn for the movie theater wrapped around the entire city block. It was fortunate that my girlfriend was adept at online ticket purchases, sparing us from the lengthy wait._
_The movie's immense popularity led to sold-out shows across every theater in New York City. During the second week, police officers were stationed at the theater to escort people out, preventing them from watching it again without buying another ticket._
_Despite a vocal minority disliking the film and somehow gaining mainstream attention, the movie continues to captivate audiences nearly 14 years later. Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan, the visionary directors behind this masterpiece, have since garnered dedicated followings. However, their association with Warner Bros. Studios appears strained, as both directors face the possibility of being sidelined despite their ongoing popularity and influential work._
Thank you for this. I love the tragedy in this.... A man curious about his people and his culture finds them but unfortunately they are homicidal maniacs and Superman must choose the species that raised him over his own.
Recently saw this and I really don’t understand all the hate for it
I think that the different ways Pa Kent dies in the original film and Man of Steel work for each film respectively. Superman: The Movie was about humility, and gaining/losing great power, so it was humbling to see a small but devastating force that Clark couldn't prevent take his father. Likewise, as you pointed out, Man of Steel is all about faith, which is ultimately a choice. Pa Kent chooses to have faith in Clark's judgment, and Clark has to hold on to faith that it's the right thing to do.
Glad to see someone else who enjoyed this movie and understood Zacks work. I always get hate when I say MoS & BvS UE are my favorite movies ever. I just love all the little details and references Zack puts in those movies. And the action scenes are incredible
Really love this movie, I wouldn't say it's perfect and I do think its flawed in a few ways but I appreciate people speaking positively about it!
Most overhated superhero movie of all time
Man of Steel's what got me into being a fan of DC in the first place.
I remember the 1st time I saw this movie I was like oh ok it was a good movie but not what I was expecting. I had ridiculously high expectations for the movie. Superman is my favorite superhero. After I left the movie, I sat back and thought about it. I saw the movie again a week later and I was like yes now I understand what Snyder was doing. Ever since then, every time I see the movie I love it more and more. There is so much emotion, concern, kindness, and hope I get out of this movie. I can describe this movie as special .
You hit on all the great points to this movie. The scene where the Colonel says,"this man is not our enemy" Superman sees the hope in humanity.
Great video.
Your score for MoS on level 0-10?
People want the same ol goodie 2 shoe unrisky lite movie
I'm not going to be one of those guys who belittles your opinion but I just wanted to touch upon a point you made that I wholeheartedly disagree with. I think you miss the point of why Pa Kent dying of a heart attack DOES serve an important purpose. It's something that even superman can't save him from. As it is in the Man of Steel is that he was FORCED to make that CHOICE. That scene really solidifies what's off in DCEU superman for me. Being superman is a burden that's thrust upon him. Even though I disagree with your take...good video.
Sure, but that’s not what the movie is trying to say. The film has more to say about choice and hope than whether or not Superman can save everyone. In my opinion, it’s hard to criticise a film for not doing something, when it clearly has no interest in actually doing it,
iamthatroby I don't see where you see Hope in this superman other than the fact that his symbol means hope. I would love to discuss this at length but honestly I wouldn't know where the line would cross into troll territory on the comment thread so I'll leave it at that...lol
I can understand someone liking this superman but I don't and that's probably not going to change.
Nah, I can pretty much you’ll guarantee that you’ll love this Superman once they do a proper sequel and do it the way Cavill has wanted to do Superman.
If you can't see where we see hope in this Superman then you're missing a lot of what the movie is telling you.
Also, Pa Kent dying from a heart attack taught Reeve's Superman that he can't save everyone... a lesson that he disregards at the end of the movie by turning back time itself to save Lois.
paulpesci1 the movie can "tell" me all it wants...it doesn't "show" me anything
Watching the JL(2021), the way you bring faith makes both movies so much better than I thought.
Checking your video again before the Zack Snyder Justice League is released on 18.03.21. You were one of the first to defend the Snyder Vision. Much Respect!😉
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Were zack and mark gruffalo separated at birth?
You’re right. I loved MoS since seeing it in theaters but I discover more layers to it each year
Is a master piece, the Shawshank redemption from Comics, overlooked, misjudged when released... but time show how really friking good was.
hate man of steel, but LOVE people with opinions, and love the eloquent articulation of those opinions even more. 👍🏻👍🏻 keep it up
You do you man. I have nothing nice to say about this so I'm just not going say anything
Devon Palmer So you commented to say that you’re not going to say anything?
Nah by saying what I said I think you can understand what I think about this movie
Devon Palmer And yet you did say something 🙄
Alex Strucker
I could've said it's a piece of shit film and a terrible superman movie that loses everything good about the character. See how it's better not to say that's
+Devon Palmer And I would say you are wrong and the horrendous bad parody of christopher reeves in justice league and the donner films ruin the potential for a really good character.
I remember first watching Man of steel and liking the movie at best. Over time and after several viewings I've grown to love the film and appreciate it for its themes and how the story was presented. I now see Man Of Steel as a masterpiece of the genre. Many superhero films have "fun" , "cool" or "stand out" moments, but I can't recall a superhero movie that presented so many "POWERFUL" moments throughout further highlighted by what I believe to be the best overall soundtrack ever put together for a superhero film.
I just want to point out that the entire terraforming scene is a great example as to HOW you get your audience to care about a city. Zod's the one who staged the world engine to take place right in the middle of metropolis. NOT Superman. To compare and contrast; when the avengers came out about the year prior i was bored seeing a bunch of empty cars explode. Same thing with bayformers 1, I did not give a damn about anything around them at all. Here? People near the engine are getting lifted up and slammed right the fuck down to the ground, missiles and jet fighters can't get close to the terraformer without wobbling out of control and hitting the city instead, destroying nearby buildings to the point of collapse. Now some might call it ripping off imagery of 9/11 to get an emotion out of you but reminder that buildings have been destroyed since POWER RANGERS back in the early 90s, more after that, and BEFORE and AFTER this movie came out. It's an alien invasion where they're trying to turn the world into krypton with a gravity slammer, I expect serious shit to go down and I'm glad Zack didn't hold any punches back. other than that, idk what else to tell yah, you just gotta separate reality from fiction.
Jonathan dying from a heart attack shows Clark he can't save everyone. MoS Jonathan suicide is pretty daft in my opinion. Pissed me off watching Kevin Costner be like "No Clark" 🤦🏽♂️
It would be a fine lesson for Superman that he can't save everyone, if the Superman 1978 movie actually stuck to that message, but by the end of the film, he learns how to reverse time, which means he pretty much can save anyone he wants, undermining the entire message.
Yeah that reversing time ending was pretty shambolic! 😂
Interesting fact: that was supposed to be the ending for the second film and Richard Donner wasn't too sure on that one either.
KingKhanAbz he did that because he felt the world is still not ready to know his secret and that he preferred to die than expose his own son to the world.
Try to see past your own shallowness.
rogue24 1 it's not shallow. It's an honest opinion and I still think it was dumb. While I get the points he's making and how it fits thematically, it's still just plain dumb and I'll tell you why. Throughout the film Jonathan Kent is afraid of what will happen if Clark is exposed so he keeps telling him to hide his abilities and dies for that. Problem is, Clark's been doing that his whole life without any consequence of that fear until Zod shows up and forces him out. Superman as a character almost never makes his own decisions and the plot is what drives him. So if Clark could go around saving people until his goddamn 20's, he could have saved his fathers life. Again I get what they were going for, but it was inconsistent because never does he ever experience consequences for using his abilities in public. And that's the biggest issue with the notion Jonathan Kent suggests.
wtf supes does not kill reeeeee
(Literally the only argument some people have for hating this film)
Nope Killing one of his lesser problem in this movie.Superman felt nothing but a hunk without personality.Did you really feel Lois and Clark love felt natural?How about injecting Dark Knight's realistic tone to a movie about Flying alien with ice breath and lazer eyes.And let's show his like a religious figure.WB doesnt awkledge this.İF you wanna add some reality to story dont shove people eyes and dont ruin to joy of movie.Marvel adding realistic things like Terrorism,PTSD,Goverment opression but they still know This is Superhero movies made by make people enjoy and escape from real life for a couple hours.How about Mos defenders.MOS killed in 1930 reeee Zack Snyder a genious and you dont understand this movie.Yeah nice excuses.This movie had any potential for build a universe on because they hint anything about there is other heroes even Batman working in next city over 30 years.
@@TheJanissary90 this ain't it, salad finger, try again
@@sunsetman22 İ don't need to try.You said only reason ppl hate this movie BC of killer Superman and i listed flaws of movie.So wht is your only reason to defeat this movie?Edgy Superman? Try to make sense.
Cinematography, overarching themes, acting, production design, script, cast, score. I could go on and on bud
@@sunsetman22 Ow cinematografy of nonsensical back and forth flashback?What acting you are talking about? George Clooney was barely even bother to acting in this movie.People was fucking lifeless in this movie.Only life sign in this movie was Zod.At least he was funny.Others just straight face with no emotion.Cast?Oh sure man Lois lane as Amy Adams was spot on casting .She was awesome at being useless to plot.
Try again.Also eloborate.Also why you even trying Henry Cavill admit mistake of this movies and left to Dceu.
BEST SUPER HERO FIGHT OF ALL TIME BRUH!!!!
Everything regards man of steel is growing incredibly in terms of views this trilogy has litterly turned heads. 👏👏
The movie is pretty terribly paced to me, the relationship with clark and lois is prematurely developed, his origin story was very rushed. His fathers death was still dumb because he wasnt even trying to live. Snyder isnt a very good director when it comes to story but he can direct decent eye candy movies
JulyApotheosis, Zack Snyder didn't even write the story. That would be Christopher Nolan & David Goyer.
PSYCHOBEVO didnt say he wrote it. Said he terribly directed it, and its absolutely hard to believe that snyder didnt have a small piece in any of the writing. Either way the movie wasnt presented well on the stories end when it came to pacing, that is normally a director issue
JulyApotheosis, all your criticisms above are story complaints. You are really complaining about the writing, not directing.
I see you edited your comment to say Snyder wrote it too 🙄. Looks like you just really want to blame Snyder, not Nolan.
PSYCHOBEVO just a small slip of names
MOS & BvS are easily my two favorite superhero films of all-time.
It pisses me off when anyone says Snyder doesn't "understand" these characters. He literally gave us the most comic accurate Batman and he made me care about Superman. A superhero, I have never cared for until I saw MOS.
Anyway, this was a GREAT video!
For me, Batfleck is basically what if rorschach and the batman who laughs
Is A GOOD HEROIC PERSON
And Henry Supes is basically
The comedian and Night Owl
as an alien and a good heroic guy
Since Danny is self Doubt and Eddie Blacke Is American Pride.