Powerstroke 6.7 egr and dpf delete
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ม.ค. 2020
- This particular truck is a 2013 f250. This video does not describe the entirety of the delete process, it touches on what other videos lack and makes the delete process smoother and easier for my fellow deleters. Have fun guys.
I did my 17 F350 6.7 dually a little different. I left the cooler on and welded a plug in the 2 pipes to block them off. The dpf I gutted and run ran a straight pipe inside and reinstalled. It is deleted but still LOOKS 👀Factory. Which helps when the 5.0 is inspecting your truck. As long as they see dpf they don't look any further. I travel a lot with my 5th wheel rv and some states will check if it is deleted. I call them my sneaky pipes 😂😂
Oh yeah. Great video 👍💯
Would you ever consider doing a video on what all you did? I would also like mine to be a little more stealthy lol
I probably should have done a video when I did it. I could do one now but all you are going to see 👀 is a STOCK Truck. You can not tell visually that anything has been done. The DPF I removed the heatsheilds. Cut in half. Cleaned it out. Measured and installed pipe and welded it back together. Reinstalled heatsheilds. Installed delete tuner. Runs like a beast and no smoke.
@@jasonschaeffer72 that's pretty awesome that you were able to do that 😁
Great minds think alike. I’ve noticed a lot of this stuff too. I’m almost ready to pull it but those manifold bolts I keep spraying and soaking. It’s a project for me so I’m taking my time w this one. But it hasn’t been hard. Pretty straight forward. Just those two manifold bolts I’m cautious of.
You're really helpful and thoughtful. I appreciate you.
Great tips! That Pyro sensor will not work back in the block off plate. The stock pyro will show sporadic readings with most tuners like H&S, hence the reason most people use one from the DPF. Also, some block plates will not fit the DPF sensors properly in that the threads are not long enough to seal the sensor completely to the bottom of the EGR plate threads. I found using some small brass washers to shim up the Pyro probe works perfect. I may just do a video on this so that it make a little more sense as to what the hell I am talking about.
Don’t buy generic parts. Sinister sells a good block off plate.
@@TorchedTv Word. Hind sight is 20/20
Great video!! This really helped me.
Thank You for your time
Wish I could run my truck out to you to wherever you are, so you can do this for me! My 2011 f350 started failing. Replaced EGR and then the chain reaction. Now I have a DEF contaminated fluid light and engine light on. My truck is now usless, just when I need it for the winter. Thank you for the very informational video😊
You bet. I’ll help as much as I can via web. But unless you’re near Boise or Hawaii you’re outa luck. Those are the only two states I work in.
@@TorchedTvIdaho isnt far from Arizona to make a special trip just for my truck! Hawaii .... one day! I greatly appreciate you sharing your knowledge with everyone. Taping off with the blue masking tape makes the visual easier too.
I would straight up delete that truck.
I did just that! No more problems now😁 i got my truck back on Jan 5th. Still breaking it in! I drove round trip down to Phoenix to home! Everything improved! I got the Ez Lynk tuner. I am pleased with it. Gonna order new muffler assembly. I saw how easy it was to do myself. So I'm looking forward to that project😁
C Wilson yeeeeeeeeeeehaawww
Great video, Thanks
Damn man. You had some great points in this video. Have you made any videos of the infamous vacuum pump leaks?
I had 2 bolts that were loose on mine. I can’t get to the 4th without taking the belt off and the pulley that’s attached to the fan. Do you have any tips on this project?
very informative video but i have some querries about the EGR bypass valve especially for Ford F550. i will be thankful if you can answer below 2 questions. Thanks
1.) Firstly, i would like to know the position and structure and shape of the EGR bypass valve how does it look like.
2.) Secondly, when the EGR bypass valve is closed, then the exhasut gas is bypassed directly in to the manifold. my question is when it is bypassed, then is it possible that some amount of the gas slips through the gaps around bypass valve or slips in the cooler? Or does the gas goes back?
No check engine lights after? Is it plug and play or do you need some tuning?
Have a 2013 F350 that had tunes already with the EZlink system when I bought the truck. What are my options using the EZlink that's in it after a delete is done?
What does the delete / EGR kit cost average??.
Another thing they don't show you is the gear on the front of the crank is not keyed, and when you tune the truck after a delete you can easily spin the gear on the crank and all you can do is put a new crank in.
Thank you for your video. It saved me lots of time. Question, did u get a coolant puking out of the over flow hose under the cap on your secondary coolant reservoir? I notice after putting that high pressure coolant hose in the reservoir, I get a small coolant puking.
If it’s under pressure. Then yes. I didn’t exactly, but if you have a pressurized hose. It will spill over.
I don't see how wd40 or what ever people use gets on the threads of those bolts even before you put a wrench on it for the first time. Maybe I can't see in the video, but do the bolt threads protrude past the flange?
any recommendations for a dpf delete tuner?
Glow plug harness
You don't have to reconnect the DPF sensors if you have a good tuner. I did the delete this last weekend and my EZ Lynk took care of all DTC codes and any other issue associated with removing that system... Watching this video because the EGR is next. I just got the kit but it came with no instructions whatsoever.
Yea, better tuners have better results. I used a cheap tuner, the mini max ($700), and you definitely need to plug back in the sensors with the mini.
Nothing needs to be reconnective ziptire existing wires up to frame senior Good2Go ez-link is the best
@@michiganranch1757 maybe true for the ez link. But if you get a mini max Or SCT you have to reconnect. I’ve done a delete with both the mini and SCT. They both throw codes unless you reconnect.
@@TorchedTv I just did egr and dpf with mini maxxv2 and I keep getting a po471 did you get this one as well
@@koroushlevi yes. Unfortunately, if you program after the mods the mini max does not remove that code. If you program before the mods, the mini max will remove the code.
You don’t need to have sensors in if you use the right tuner
Great video , I have a 2011 f250 , it has a dpf delete ( came like that when bought ) truck runs good but after awhile truck says reduced engine power but as soon as I park and turn truck off and back on everything goes back to normal , any feedback ?
Your cpu, isn’t registering your tuner. 1. You need a new tuner. 2. You need a new cpu. Somewhere between the tuner and cpu, there is disruption. 3. It is possible you have low voltage from the battery. Or a bad ground connection, somewhere.
Thank you so much for the feedback ! And second do you need to unplug the emissions plug the the pcm since the dpf is deleted ?
With draining the egr how do you get it to drain? Do you just put an air hose to it? Or will it drain on its own?
Aaron Lee I used a vacuum. You can use a coolant hand pump if you don’t have one. They’re only $30
Saw somewhere that if you run the truck 25 miles on the deleted tune before you do the deletes it eliminates the need to reconnect sensors?
Possibly. Never tried. Other tuners, more pricey tuners, will delete all the codes.
There is absolutely no reason to reconnect the sensors. The tune will turn the sensors off.
@@ruggedterrain nope. Not true. Some tuners need to see the sensors. I’ve tested it a few times. If you don’t reconnect the sensors, you’re going into regen mode.
Yup, works for a while, but you’ll eventually get a reduced power warning. So just replug the sensors and stuff the wires up into the frame somewhere.
Do i have too take the cab of when changing the 6.7 powerstroke on a ford 250 2018?
That’s the easiest way. But no, you can pull the motor by removing the front body components and bell housing bolts, straight up and out.
Never heard of plugging sensors back in. Don't know how you could do that, especially when doing a DPF delete. Those things have like 8 sensors and wiring hookups.
For future folks: the trick is the sensors have to be there when you run the tuner. If the sensors are not present, then the tuner won’t delete them.
So: when you kit arrives, hook up the tuner first and run the delete tune. Once that tune has ran and deleted all the sensors, you can uninstall the sensors.
@@SteeIW0LFso after it’s tuned with a minimax v2 then you could remove the sensors? Deleting one now and removed the egr and dpf before tuning an I am trying to make sure I don’t have it throw any codes once I tune it
Hey man we have the same name!! Haha anyways I’m doing the Delete on my truck tomorrow, not deleting the egr just the dpf, since I’m not deleting the egr do I just have to re route the coolant back Into the radiator like you showed at the beginning of the video ?
As long as you use a tuner. You can just remove the whole dpf tank and not worry about rerouting anything. The egr is the only thing that needs rerouting, since you’re not touching that, you should be all good. That’s under the truck next to the fuel tank.
Great video bro I have a 17 would it be the same process
There’s a couple of differences. But very similar. Same engine same parts, just a little moved around.
@@TorchedTv are you for hire lol
What is the sensor in the back of the egr under the cab
Not sure which one you’re referring to. But it’s easy to figure out. Locate the sensor, and follow it from where it plugs in to where it connects. You may be referring to the exhaust temp sensor. But just follow it back from where it’s plugged into.
Nicely done, do you think 2021 delete would be far more complex to tackle on your own and is deleting newer models really causing electrical or mechanical issues with different components in the truck?
Thanks
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2021 is almost identical. The hard thing to find are the tunes, as up to date tuners are getting harder to acquire.
Where you buy the delete kit I'm trying to fully delete my truck and only need to delete the EGR
Egrparts.com has the stuff you need, you can get it in the kit for around $350. You'll also need a tuner, h&s mini Maxx is affordable and works great. Everything out the door is less than a thousand bucks
E-Bay. Good luck
Unless you do the delete yourself, your looking at $1000 of labor charges on top of the parts. But most offroad or custom shops will have the best kits available. Those can run upwards of $500. You can get complete knock off kits on Amazon or eBay for less then $200, which work, but needs checking every couple of years. Buying the right tuner is important, minimax has a good preloaded tune for $800, so does SCT. But look forward to spending upwards of $700 on a good tuner. Don’t buy a cheap tuner, you will regret it. Also, good tuners are getting harder to find thanks to the new emissions laws.
Have fun dude!
@@TorchedTv I'm full deleted now on 2016 powerstroke I learn allot and was a pain in the ass with the egr but I manage to do the egr delete take out the def too the cold side charge pipe, cold air intake, and ezlynk tuner
What are your thoughts on getting a 2022 deleted and when do you think
they will have all the bugs figured out? I'm getting a current year
model but I'm still back and forth whether to get it deleted and how
soon... Many suggested to run the 5 year warranty first or at least 3
years but Idk if using the truck for that long is gonna gunk up the
engine and cause premature wear and tear. On the other flip of coin,
dunno how reliable tunes are with the newer models and if they are truly
bulletproof or problems are ought to happen as there's no way to
bulletproof those stock engines once they have been tampered with.
Thanks!
I don’t think they’ve figured out how to reburn the carbon without clogging the dpf and egr. With that said it’s always a good idea to delete, I mean, you could have no issues with a non delete for up to 200,000 miles. But for the most part, a delete exponentially increase the life of you truck and helps with power outputs. You can get 650-1200 horses on a properly tuned and deleted 6.7 truck. But if all you’re doing is towing, then just minimize your idle time, and open her up more often, and you might not need to do any deletes…the faults most powerstoke have is when they sit at idle too long. But if you want the power…I’d do the deletes right away.
@@TorchedTv Thanks man for getting back.
My sole purpose for doing the delete is not performance nor power increase. I'm considering it for the longevity of my engine and better overall maintenance of the truck as it no longer needs to recirculate any exhaust gases let alone doing unnecessary regen cycles whenever it needs to, etc... Better fuel mileage and unrestricted power boost is a bonus I won't turn away either.
My only concern is if I got the delete done the proper way thru a professional that really knows what they are doing, am I still taking a risk on deleting emissions as far as the operation of truck being "modified" vs "stock" or it will run a 100% like stock minus a few hundreds of pound of dead weight? There's more to it than delete and tune. If calibrations aren't properly taken into consideration the compression ratios aren't changed, the temperatures aren't dropped, and the engine timing isn't altered then I maybe better off keep my emissions.
You hear and read a lot of reviews about people running into issues caused by deletes even when it was done proper as those trucks specially the newer ones are designed and engineered to run with emissions and the moment you mess with them, they will cause issues whether that is momentarily or down the road. I reached out to a few local mechanics and they all said they have seen the good, bad, and the ugly, deleted trucks may cause issues and fail at higher altitudes so I'm kinda stuck in a rut here so I'd ask you as someone who's been there and has a better sense of knowledge of this transition even tho yours is relatively an older model year. Sorry for the long write-up but I think we have all gone thru this phase of due diligence . Thanks again!
@@firratblitzcki7734 all good man. Deleted trucks run betting on the long run. Really, all you have to worry about with a delete is a emissions ticket from the black and blue. Just don’t tow in the extreme tune (high hp). Only tow in tow tuning. Towing in HP tuning will toast your trans and over heat the truck. Extreme tunes are only for racing 👍
Arod has a video of a deleted(at 100k miles) 2016 f250 6.7 with over 1 million miles on it with minimal required maintenance and used for heavy towing. That's all the proof I need...
Also, some people "Tune" and "delete" but don't completely take out the egr system which can cause issues long term.
My only concern is passing emissions every 2 years...
Hows the truck running since it was deleted? About a year ago?
I sold this one. But top shape when I sold it.
My question is,can this be deleted to where if someone looks under the hood it still looks like you are still using this system.
Yup. Just leave the egr on
How much would you charge for a 2011 f250 6.7 I could drive to idaho
Depends man. There’s the cheap way and the expensive way. They both work, but the expensive way usually has more stuff that comes off the truck.
Well, a tuner on its own costs about $800-$1000. Theres no way around a tuner unless you have a Dino. Other then that labor would be about $1200 to delete the egr and dpf.
Do you have to put the egr and dpf back on to pass emissions tests?
Yup, or find an emissions tester that will pass you…usually different county’s with different emissions laws can pass you. So check which areas around you that have a high limit, and usually they will let you pass.
What's a emissions test?
2017 just deleted and tuned removed the egr and dpf now i have a surge any ideas?
What kind of surge?
@@TorchedTv I fixed it. I forgot to remove the fresh air damper plug.
@@jester6291974 nice. Good job man.
I have a 2011 and want to delete it...I live on Maui and I can tell you not many people know about this. Would love if you could lead me in the right direction from where to purchase the kit and a good tuner. Mahalo
If you can’t do it all in one crack then the first place to start is to buy a good tuner. Cheaper tuners are getting harder to come by because of new emission standards. Make sure it’s a dpf delete tuner, you can tell it’s for a diesel dpf delete because it will cost more then $600. But SCT still sells a decent tuner for these trucks, it can cost up $800-$1000 depending on the preloaded tunes. My truck used the mini max. It cost me $700. But I’m not sure if they still sell them. Next you can straight pipe your truck and unplug the throttle sensor and egr; I’d go 4” or wider diameter on the exhaust. That way you can start getting some real power to the wheels. Lastly, you should delete the egr!
@@TorchedTv right on! Appreciate the information. Mahalo!
@@dakahulaz59 np
@@TorchedTv ever on Maui hit me up! Show you some Maui kanaka hospitality!
@@dakahulaz59 sounds good.
Do you have to take the egr off when you delete a truck or can you just unplug it?
You can just unplug it. Taking it off is really just to get it out of the way. But the egr removal is pretty easy if you want it gone. I highly recommend doing the block offs even if you don’t remove the egr.
@@TorchedTv What is the benefit of doing the block offs?
@@BetweentheCheeks00 block offs are only needed with an egr delete. They close the ports that allow exhaust gasses to be reburnt in the cylinders.
Alohaz bruddah what island are you on?
Big Island
I used to stay on Big Island. The Puna area. Great video.
Bradah. Hit me up. I’m kona side big isle. Would probably hire you delete our 2020. Mahalos
Hi, I have done everything on my 2014 Ford and now I have a code saying Engine IDLED see manual, I can’t figure it out. You know if I’m able to fix it somehow?
Liliana Perez when you say everything, do you mean you deleted the truck? Also, how long have you ran the truck deleted with-ought a tuner? It sounds like the tuner you bought doesn’t work worth the delete on your truck.
@@TorchedTv I used a SCT X4 tuner, I removed the DPF and the EGR but drove it before to see how it sounded before using the SCT x4 tuner and now that’s happening you think may be because I drove it before tuning it?
We installed an SCT 4 on my brothers powerstroke with his delete, it works like a charm. My truck has a mini max, also good. Your trucks computer is trying to communicate with the dpf. But it obviously can’t because it’s been removed. Three different things could be the cause. 1. Your tuner doesn’t have the right tune to support a delete (most common) I suggest calling SCT and making sure they loaded the powerstroke delete tune, a tuner with a delete tune will usually cost more the $600, don’t fall for those tuners that are cheaper then that, they usually don’t have the right program for a delete. 2. One of your sensor wires arent plugged in, there are two, large, main O2 sensors, that plugged into your dpf: yes, remove them from the dpf but the wiring and the sensor in its entirety need to remain plugged into the sensor harness box. The wiring can be wrapped up and stashed anywhere under the body of the truck. 3. There is wiring damage on one of those two larger O2 sensor wires.
Liliana Perez and no, driving it a little withought the tune will not harm the truck, as long as you didn’t go over the regen limit. Which the computer usually tells you “REDUCED POWER”. But these trucks usually allow 50-100miles of driving with the warning lamp on. As long as you tuned it before the miles hit 0.
@@TorchedTv Thank you so much more likely option 1 will call SCT to make sure really thank you so much!!
WD 40 means water displacement 40 weight. Does practically nothing to help remove rusted bolts.
Works pretty good on these bolts.
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You obviously know how to do the job but, you need to stop jerking the camera around !!
What most people don’t know, I was a bout 6 beers in when I made this 😂
@@TorchedTv hardly nothing. :)