Miguel well for example I drive one with 216,000 miles many people that own them even have 400,000 or 500,000 miles on them. A low mileage one like that won’t be cheap.
I lost my dad this year and he purchased this vehicle in 2016. After dad passed, I drove it the 1100 miles home and was shocked at how smooth it was as well as the dependability and gas mileage. I have been taking good care of it with regular washing and detailing. When I drive it, it is an absolute pleasure. Best car I have ever driven. The power and sport modes combined are just so smooth. This vehicle truly has a get up and go way about it. Dad knew cars and he sure chose a great one. If you ever have the ability to test this one out and purchase, I highly recommend.
I'm very sorry for your loss. It sounds like your father had great taste in cars at least! I was very impressed with this car when I drove it, there's one (only one) for sale in Quebec right now but it isn't the Ultra Luxury trim. I'm tempted to take a look at it.
By now, a 15 year old S-Class or 7-Series would be relegated to the salvage yard, after becoming a colossal money pit for its' last 3 owners and having virtually no resale value. Lexus are almost timeless and their reliability, longevity & resale value reflect it.
@@PRNTestDrive As I try to tell people, German cars are a great lease value for 2-4 years, but after that, forget about it. Their value drops so fast, for obvious reasons. Lexus / Toyota make for a great long term ownership experience. Oh, great review on the 2004 Lexus, by the way...
Thanks! Each older Lexus we've featured so far has had very little to worry about in terms of maintenance. They're the only classic cars we end up recommending people buy if they're looking for something reliable to daily drive as their only vehicle.
Thanks! I think they’re pretty close in terms to what the S-Class and 7 Series had at the time. I don’t think the 2003 S 55 AMG we did had a backup camera, although the factory one on this Lexus wasn’t working.
@@PRNTestDrive I’m German and I love German cars and years ago back in the 70s and 80s Germany made some great reliable cars but ever since the EU and no more Deutschmark and a few other problems The beautiful MB and BMW and Audi have developed longevity problems. Their engines are top notch and nobody beats them but it’s the other stuff made mainly electronics that just don’t last. So I started driving a Lexus LS 430 and it is the finest car I have ever ridden in since I was a child back in the 70s
@@grandmastagrimm8773 Ya. An 04-06 a bunch of improvements as you probably know including a 6 speed auto and a little more refinement of a ride. I have an 05 and it’s trouble free. Minimum problems. So yes any 04-06 I would buy if the maintenance records are good. Best car you will ever own of that period.
We've had the pleasure of featuring the 1999 Lexus ES 300, 1998 Lexus GS 400, & 1999 Lexus LS 400. All of them are seriously reliable vehicles for what you get out of them. They're really the only classic luxury cars we would recommend to a first time/young buyer.
My deceased father bought this same 2004 model 2nd hand in 2006 from the Lexus Dealership for $45k AUD, the original RRP in 2004 was $178k AUD. Crazy depreciation huh? But a bargain for us. $45k wouldn't have even got us a current 2006 IS200 at that dealership so getting an 'as new' LS430 Flagship with 35k KM's on it for that price felt like the bargain of the century. The LS430 is impeccable, the craftsmanship, thoughtfulness of the design, quality of materials, production and finishing. The brilliance of the platform and the surprising amount of power makes this a very special car. Whether on the highway, twisty coastal roads or dirt roads it handles them all magnificently whilst keeping you insulated from it all in that supremely luxurious cabin. It's immense. In the 15 years of ownership I've never had a single part failure, only ever had to spend money on parts that naturally wear over the life of the car. When you consider the literal HUNDREDS of motors, dozens of computers & circuit boards and buttons/switches, 1000's of wires measuring over a mile in length, powering all of these sophisticated luxurious amenities then that feat of design & engineering becomes all the more impressive. It's one thing for a basic Corolla to be reliable, it's a WHOLE other thing for a fully optioned LS to be reliable. Clearly Lexus dedicates a significant part of their R&D Budget to ensuring everything they implement is focused towards reliability and longevity. (Edit, it's 2022 now and everything I wrote is still true, still haven't had any part failures in the 2 and a bit years since I wrote this comment. It's just extraordinary this car.)
Sang Eeth I have owned it for 13 months and put 12k miles on it. All trouble free. I did replace the water pump and timing belt as there were no records that it had previously been done. I am about to do a suspension overhaul just to get it back to perfection. The car is great. I would narrow it down to a 2005-2006 the 2004s had an issue with the transmission that was later solved. Every single one of my friends that ride in it all say the same thing. “How the hell is this 14 years old?” All the interior is immaculate and it’s got 120k on it now.
Many do. I've owned a '98 LS400 for 21 years and agree with you. However, if I were to encounter a really great LS430, say a 2004-06, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and use it on weekends.
I have a lexus ls430 2001. These cars are bulletproof and will regular maintenance will last a very long time. I have 300,000 miles orginal starter and alternator. Replaced radiator at 250,000. Have replaced valve cover gaskets too. Just replace fluids and do the timing belt water pump pulleys serpentine every 100,000 miles. I will have to do my 3rd timing belt in a few months. All mechanics tell me these engines are bulletproof and just change oil regularly.
300k miles, that great to hear! We've heard the same thing when it comes to these older Toyota/Lexus engines, oil changes are the most important preventative maintenance you can do to keep it running beautifully.
I just did my first timibg belt on my 98 gs400 today. It was a pretty intense job but the car started and ran fine after, im just hopibg the water pump I changed doesn't leak
This beauty deserves all the care it can get, Ill take it to one of the best auto detailing in the area. Foam wash, Clay bar it, paint correct it and polish. Make that black paint job mirror like, then ceramic coat it This car still holds its own, it still makes someone glance over. It has that executive yet gangsta appearance. I’m in a hunt for 2014 LS 460 AWD, white on black or black on black .. yet I love the stylish look from 07’ -12’ . And this is from someone that originally started looking at CLS -CL 550 , S class , 7 series, A6 -A7, Jaguar XJ. Yet I choose the Lexus LS for various reasons.
Luckily we know the owner, he's a close personal friend, and I know this car gets babied the way it deserves 😀We'd love to feature one of the newer LS 460s, they look seriously impressive anytime we see them on the road.
My favorite car of all time, but I like the 02-03 better for the ease of maintenance to the transmission. HOWEVER, I like the features and the exterior look of the 04-06. I have an 02 with crazy low miles that I plan to give a facelift to, but buying a donor car is just a couple grand cheaper than buying a clean non-wrecked car!
I've been driving my '01 and it's been a total dream to own. Reliability, style and comfort are the attributes of this LS. I'll drive her for many years to come. Great video as usual 👍😎
Another 01 owner here. Mine has 165k and drives like brand new. I would take it across the country today. Thing is so reliable and so comfortable. These things are so cheap and must be one of the best deals out there.
I wish you guys could come down to California some time, I have a Beautiful immaculate 2 owner fully loaded 2006 Lexus ES330. It has like 85% of the amenities that this has. Ventilated And heated seats, beautiful chrome rims, power rear sunshade, navigation that works, superb Mark Levinson premium audio system, auto rain sensing wipers, (it even has sport tuning suspension) and it looks brand new. Chrystal clear headlights, gorgeous sparkling Champaign paint, no curb rash in the chrome rims etc. AND, it has over 207,000 MILES on it! It’s mechanically perfect, and drives like it’s brand new. It’s pretty peppy as well, the 3.3L V6 is smooth as butter! Wish you guys could review it! I also have an absolute Stunning merlot burgundy colored 2008 Lexus LS460! It’s the most beautiful paint ever, and it’s also immaculate like my other Lexus lol. Wish you guys could review both!
We'd absolutely love to film it one day, sounds amazing! We're still a little too small to get invited out to the domestic media events here in Canada, but hopefully with the steady growth we've had we'll start getting invited, and eventually get invited to things in California! Since a number of the manufacturers have major offices out there media events seem to happen regularly there.
Very nice. Very small percentage of LS430 were Ultra Luxury. Went to Lexus dealer in 2011ish and drove an LS430 with 270k miles on it that somebody traded in. Was curious. Absolutely no noises. Drove like new, but of course had all maintenance done.
@@PRNTestDrive Yeah. Everything should have regular maintenance (including suspension) but the best thing about these is rarely anything occurs outside of expectations.
These vehicle were built to a high standard. Toyota still makes a superb vehicle built to these or higher standards. Love to see you do a review of a new Toyota Land Cruiser or equivalent Lexus and see the comparisons.
The Land Cruiser has always had this legendary status, it's a vehicle I'd love to feature, either new or classic. We're hoping if this episode is successful it will allow us to get some new Lexus models from Toyota's press fleet.
I was really looking forward to making this one happen also! We're hoping this will kick off our 2019 season for more full episodes on classics/older vehicles.
I just snagged one.. never saw them for less than $5k I got one from a motivated seller for 2.5k. What they’re saying is true. Drives so smooth. The previous owner put in straight pipes for a throaty v8 sound. I’m planning on returning it to stock so it’s super quiet. I’m totally in love with it. If I did it again, I would get no navigation since it’s a bit dated.. but it’s growing on me bc I don’t have to use my phone for directions lol get it!!
@@PRNTestDrive And so shall a man say it , so shall it be, Finally proud owner of This car O4Ultra LS 430, fully stocked, will be covering her too synthetic oil for the remainder of her life with Premium Gas. And bumping the windows for extra privacy but that's all. ✌🏽Ultra
@@swatisquantum I have one too. The mufflers rotted out on me so I put straight pipes after the resonators. I strongly recommend this approach, especially if you're feeling cheap. It's still whisper quiet. It sounds a bit meatier when idling but there's no droning in the cabin, you can actually hear the exhaust note when you push the pedal but it goes dead silent when cruising at moderately high speeds, and it still sounds great when you slam it. I haven't tried it on a very, very high-speed cruise yet though, but at regular highway speeds it's just a straight-up improvement, best of both worlds. A very happy "accident" considering I just did it because the mufflers for this car are wicked expensive.
The LS is really the only true competition to the S class imo. The 7 series and A8 are both great large cars, but they go toward the sport aspect of the experience. I absolutely love the LS400 and LS460, (the 430 being my least favorite body style.)
I agree! The S-Class is the most versatile in the segment, you can go for maximum comfort/luxury with an S 500, or get the performance/sport feel with either AMG. The second gen LS 400 we did was a real nice car, really can't beat it for reliability.
One of two in Canada?? Well, then i've got the other one. Briarwood Pearl / black leather and suede headliner and pillars, with every conceivable option for that year, including dealer installed SAT. Bought it from the original owner. Full records and a invoice of $112,000 after all said and done when he purchased it new from the dealer in Feb 2004. I was under the impression that there were 17 of them sold in all of Canada, but if you have verification that there are only two of them, well then i feel pretty special. Mine is in showroom condition with 315,000kms. EDIT> Just noticed you said 1 of 2 BLACK ON BLACK. so then Lexus Canada is correct when the say 17 units were sold in the Ultra Luxury package in 2004
We clarify at the end, but even at the start I said it’s one of two black on black sold in Canada, clarifying that it’s specific to the 2004 model year with 17 total Ultra Luxuries for the 2004 model year in Canada.
Yes, this car was way ahead of it's time, but don't bother trying to buy a used one. The owners will never sell, unless there is something really wrong with the car. And these are extremely expensive to fix.
One of our viewers just picked up one just like this, but had to go to the US to find it. They do exist, but you're right, owners are pretty unwilling to sell these because of how darn good they are.
I've had the same '98 LS400 for 21 years and it has been a marvel of reliability, a joy to own. Strangers still approach me to ask whether it might be for sale. If possible, I'd advise avoiding the dealers for "service". I always change the oil and filter myself (conventional at 4-5K). I've had German "luxury" brands in the past and they are utter junk by comparison. Reliability is the hallmark of high quality engineering, design and construction. The Germans lack all of those. The exception might be MB's body construction. And they do handle well when everything's actually working and they are out of the repair shop. I once borrowed a friend's then new Bentley Continental and was happy to get back into my own car!
Very nice, definitely keep holding onto it! We agree that taking any of these older cars to a trusted mechanic over the dealership is the right call, it's something we forgot to mention during this episode.
The Germans did do very well with their cars. But sadly the culture and big corporatism has changed all the great German cars. I buy Lexus myself and I'm German. But Lexus here is better than the new Lexus.
You are absolutely right. Bought a used LS400 at 96K. Utterly reliable and enjoyable car. Tried a MB 2000 E43O 4Matic, first V8 sedan all wheel drive from Benz. Heavily optioned, Brand new order just for me. A beautiful car. $15,000 warranty works first year. Sold 70,000 K. It was a total lemon. I never will own a Mercedes again. BMW also disastrous, serving all the time. Stranded, Towed out of your driveway, smoking on the side of the road. Branding desire until you own one. Audi also same disaster. We’ve had five Lexus now. I have my 2001 LS 430 ultra luxury package white interior, midnight jade green exterior with Erica, the gray burled walnut look. 20 years old running beautifully. Picked up at 2010 LS 460, L AWD ultra premium luxury package, TV between the rear seats on the centre armrest, and unusual package instead of the executive package which loses the third middle seat in the rear. I don’t desire a new Lexus. Not a Lexus LS 460 or 500. I have adjusted to the spindle grille in your face statement. Ya, they look cool. But the interior seems hoaxy. Trying to hard the make a statement. Interestingly, the new phantom, + Rolls-Royce ghost are Deemphasizing ostentatious adornments and simplifying the interior design. I guess it’s sort of like juxtaposed baroque to art deco. Lol
@@MrMrremmington Had MB for 20 yrs (company bought them for me). They were markedly inferior to the Lexus LS400. Friends had a new BMW 740...left them stranded many times. I looked at the LS500 and was unimpressed. RR has lost its way in styling and then the tech will always be highly questionable. Friends/neighbors had never been able to keep theirs on the road. Friend bought a new Bentley Continental. It arrived with factory defects and was very frequently in the shop. He got rid of it after a year or so. He, too, switched to an LS. I've had my '98 LS400 for almost 24 yrs. and it has been superb is all respects. If I buy another car, it will be an EV.
What's wrong with your e430, I never have any serious problem with my e55 in past 8 years. Little bit diy is required, nothing major at all@@MrMrremmington
Not only advanced, but insanely well built considering the mileage. I'm really impressed with this generation, I think it's the sweet spot of classic looks with unbeatable reliability.
Totally agree I love my 04ultra converting her too synthetic oil for the rest of her life and bumping the windows for extra privacy. Never selling.im a lifer😁✌🏽Ultra
I just bought an '01 LS430 UL a couple of months ago and it has been an absolute dream. I drive this car 2 hours a day for my work commute and I could not be happier with the purchase. So glad I was able to find a UL. The '04 UL looks like it has some nice upgrades over my generation :)
Stunning car. Pick any of the so called premium germans from this year and most of them have gone threw gearbox repair,engine repair,or half the electronics doesnt work. That thing will outlive even the latest BMW and Mercedes. Not performance oriented,sure,if you want a sport car,get a sport car,this is a luxury cruiser.
Well said, and I think that might be why Lexus is turning away it's core customers today. They've really gone towards the sport side of car building, even the new LS has a very aggressive design to it.
"Pretty innovative tech, at least for Lexus" You know, in 1982 JDM Toyo Corona had parking sensors and in 1986 JDM Toyota Corolla had power folding mirrors, but for sum reason People say that it was w140 what had these features first. There's a lot of examples like that. Toyota coud easily outdo any automaker in tech and engineering innovations. It could do cool spot cars, but than it wouldn't har reputation. They are doing everything right cos they are highest capitalisation car company and let's not forget that LS vastly outselles any competitor.
Good points. Each manufacturer in this segment pushes the envelope forward. I always think about how long it took BMW, Audi, Mercedes, & Lexus to develop tech like radar cruise control or ultrasonic parking sensors, compared to how long the rest of the industry took to catch on. Now the tech is copied within a year or two and can be found on entry-level consumer cars.
Had an '01 with 50k miles on her ..traded it in with 90 on it a year ago and still hurt over it. Best car ive ever owned hands down. Mine was black too. 2001 ls430
I bought an 03 LS 430 with 65K miles on the clock three years ago. About to cross 100K and not a single major issue. No major problems so far. One mild one is my driver mirror doesn't tilt. And a parking sensor shorted after i went though a puddle that was WAY too deep. I use it as my d.d. as well. Been living through humidity of Virginia to the salted snowy roads of Indiana all year. Its been 100% perfect and never let me down
We're glad to hear it! I think over the course of time we'll hear from a lot of owners like you who have these cars and have little to no issues with them.
Ultra Lux is over-loaded with everything - stuff I wouldn't use - including side shades, massage chair and wine chiller etc. in the back and switchable air suspension that will eventually leak or break, so the thing won't sit level. The Sport Suspension option models handle better and you actually use that suspension every time you drive it. Look for the badge behind front wheels.
Ultra Luxury might not be for everyone, that's a valid point. Luckily Lexus offered some pretty good kit across the board for the LS 430 like you mentioned, so there's options out there.
Really? I just hit 225k in my GS460 and I’ve owned it since 120k and I’ve only replaced the starter at 180k. I’ve never heard of engine or transmission problems with the LS460
Glad you liked it, thanks! I really enjoyed putting these episodes together, Lexus made some fantastic cars that are still seriously good by today’s standards.
@@PRNTestDrive cool, keep them coming. There’s two LS430’s for sale here in Christchurch New Zealand, ones done 18,700kms and the others done 26,900kms both are fully optioned.
@@PRNTestDrive comparing these 2 in non UL format which one is a better car? I also posted this question on a different thread. I’m looking to get into either a 2007-09 ES350 or a 2004 LS430 with About 80-95k miles. Their both posted for sale for about $8500 to $10,000 I won’t be using this as a daily driver and I put about 6 to 7000 miles per year on average Obviously these are in 2 different size categories and have different size engines. Guess it comes down to practically and size preference. I currently own a 2013 ES350 with only 42,500 miles which i recently listed for sale. Love it but looking to lower my payment.
I have a 2000 Lexus LS400 with 376xxx miles. It's my daily driver, and it runs and drives flawlessly! But I so wish I had an ultra luxury package LS430. By far the greatest LS Lexus has ever made!
Very True...I drive the 2010 LS 460 and that car literally drives me when I’m cruising, I was shocked when I discovered the radar cruise control, showed the feature to my uncle who’s a huuuuge Merc fan but was blown away by that feature,as well as that Autopilot feature. By far the best Luxury Sedan ever.
I have a 2004 Lexus SC430 with 53K on the clock. It has the same engine as the LS in your video. Plenty of performance and built to last as long as you do the routine maintenance they'll last a very, very long time. As you said, "they are bulletproof." The build quality in older Lexus cars are incredible and they are beautiful inside and out. I have 3 cars: a Tacoma, Miata, and the SC430. But, I've been rubbernecking the 3rd generation LS for a while now. Maybe this year. Good review!
Thanks! I think if you can find one, jump on it! At least up here in Canada there aren't many of them for sale, and something like this Ultra Luxury comes up rarely, the owner of this happened to know the person who owned it and made a deal.
I'm Looking for A Low Mlg.04-06 LS 430,But What's The story on Their Navigators,Heard Rumors That When They Die,It's Not Possible to Reprogram or Refresh Them? Ones W/ Nav.In My Part of Country Usually Go For About $1000 More Than Ones W/Out Nav.
It seems to be the case, we went through a lot of forum posts for the LS 430 during our research and we saw a number of posts about it. Much like other luxury cars from the time you'd have to source an OEM unit as replacing it with an aftermarket setup is a lot harder than the non-navigation system offered on lower trims.
My moms friend took me for a spin in her Lexus LS 430 she played honeymoon avenue by Ariana grande and my tall “6’3 sunk into her car soaking up every moment I loved it and always will remember it
Yup, even in the United States these cars are sort of hard to fine. I’m glad I was able to buy mine as last year. Been driving it a lot,And been going on many Road trips, so far so good, no problems. Check out my channel if you want to see my car. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Great video PRN! I have this exact Black UL with the burnt wood. Mine is a 2006. Best car I have ever owned. In fact, I would say this was the last greatest flagship Lexus. After the LS430, Lexus started to cheapen out on the quality and even worse decided to step away from pure luxury and lean more sporty now. I owned a 1996 LS400 before this, and while I loved that car too, the LS430 is a major step up because they managed to retain most if not all of the best features of the LS400 while bringing in tons of new tech.
@@Matt-cw1mv Kind of useless if you ask me. They don't massage, but more or less vibrate. And the vibration can be adjusted between slow, medium and fast. There are no modules that press against your back like a real massage would do.
@@Matt-cw1mv Nope, none. Not worth it at all. All it does is make your voice sound funny. The best features on the car are: 1) Engine, simply perfection, smooth, powerful, quiet and most of all bulletproof reliable. 2) Seats - supremely comfortable and of the highest quality and buttery smooth leather. 3) Tomb like silence interior. It gets eerily quiet cruising on a nicely paved road. 4) Soft touch closing doors. I love coming home late at night and just lightly tap the door close and let it pull itself shut without waking the family. 5) Headlights - they are super bright, even with the cloudy oxidation forming on it. I'll get those restored soon. 6) Fit and finish - My 13 year old lexus fit and finish is still top notch. All the draws and cubbies open up with soft quiet and fluid like movement. I recently sat in a 3 year old Porsche Panamera, and everything I touched creaked and felt really cheap to the touch.
@@joemcdonough7509 how many miles do you have on your UL? I got mine with 75K on the dash, and now she's at 84K. I love it. And what tires do you have on it?
Nice video! I have a 2004 UL 80,000 miles. Something I figured out that other owners may want to know. The I AGREE SCREEN. I also find any navigation system in a vehicle that does not connect to my phone useless. Go into settings on the touch screen and turn off the display screen. When you start the car the Lexus logo will appear and the screen will go blank after a few seconds with no I AGREE message ever appearing. If you push climate control or audio you can make any adjustments or changes you want and after about 10 seconds the screen will go blank again. However if you use the map/navigation the display screen will go back to default on.
Just bought a 2003 LS430 with 84k on it a few weeks ago here in Michigan. Timing belt seems to be the key maintenance item to perform. Lexus says at 90k but now that they are older might be a good idea just to handle it ASAP. Hood and trunk struts generally fail but are simple fixes. Awesome video as usual.
Yes. Consider replacing the water pump at the same time (though I didn't), tensioner and all pulleys with OEM parts. The struts are 5' jobs to replace. I got mine on Ebay. Check your air filter and cabin filter, too. Easy to replace. Plugs will likely last 200K. Change conventional oil at about 5K and synthetic at 7-7.5K. DO NOT substitute coolants. Don't flush transmission.
I believe it is safe to say that any Lexus is a rebranded Toyota intended for the world, that would otherwise not come out as a left hand car except for the ones under the Lexus brand. Toyota Z30 Soarer and the Altezza are examples of such cars. But then again, Toyota Celsior was the king before the Crown took over. One example of the Crown Royal can actually be found in China as a left hand drive car, although this car was never meant to be sold as a left hander, but I found one.
That's a valid point. It's worked out better for Toyota/Lexus that Honda did with Acura, trying to rebadge some JDM & euro-spec models for the North American market.
the problem with used-luxury cars is that finding a fully-loaded version is not easy because they don't launch a trims as same as economic brands such as for example: tajoe premier. mercedes and lexus etc. they let the customer build his own car. you will be lucky if you find a fully loaded.
Very good points, which is why we wanted to jump on this episode when we had the chance. The likelihood of us finding another LS 430 UL is pretty slim, so it gave us a good opportunity to show what the best of this vehicle could be.
Over the years, I've had several luxury sedans. Besides a sedan as family car, I also have a 2+2 performance car so minimally, I must have over 200bhp for my right foot. A Merc E-class which I only had for 3 months because its too boring, a Lexus GS300 which I had for 6 years because its just too nice, very reliable and low cost of ownership. Then, I changed to a BMW 730Li but irritating small problems here and there plus the high cost of maintenance, I sold it and changed to an SUV (never own one previously) driving the Subaru Forester XT because car prices went crazy in Singapore while still keeping my R35 GTR. Its 4 years now and I am looking to change the Forester to a Lexus again. In mind right now is a 2015-2017 Lexus ES300H Luxury. Hope to find a suitable one now. Cars in Singapore is the most expensive in the world.
We’ve heard that before too about car prices there. The current Lexus models are really nice, we haven’t had the pleasure of driving the hybrid ES 300 but we did a 2018 and enjoyed it.
I just traded my August 2015 Subaru Forester XT for a December 2015 Lexus ES300h Luxury. Will be collecting the car in 5 days after the weekend and paperwork with the authorities. I am paying S$118,000 or USD88,000 for it and can used for 6 years. In singapore, before purchasing a new car, a certificate must be bidded first due to limitations by the government who will dictate how many certificates are available each month to control the car population on the road. Depending on available certificates, supply and demand, this paper alone has ranged from S$30,000 to S&$100,000+. After the tenth year, cars are either scrapped or owners can pay for another certificate to use the car for another 5 or 10 years and this certificate price will be based on the average of the prevailing 3 months. For example, in August 2008 when i purchased the GTR, I paid $60,000 for the certificate alone, 300% government taxes based on declared value of the car at import, dealer's profit etc I paid a total of $308,000 (USD$227,000) to use it for 10 years and in July 2018, I paid another S$37,000 (USD28,000) so i can use the car till July 2028.
Beige interior looks much better and this car hands down beats all other German cars this car is beautiful .. hands down no bs please 💯💯 don’t compare it to donkey cars this car is litrally quite soo quite also soo beautiful
That's very true. There have been, and are some reliable (relatively speaking) BMWs and Mercedes-Benz models out there, but it's usually the exception, whereas it's the rule with Lexus. The vehicles we've featured from Lexus so far, ranging from the 90s and early 2000s models have all been solid, even in today's market.
The only way these newer full-size luxury cars can keep similar turning radius' will be with 4 wheel steering like we've seen on the Cadillac CT6 and BMW 7 Series.
That's pretty pricey, but I believe it. We're getting to a point where any low-mileage vehicle seems to invite high ask prices because of news stories surrounding one-off sales at exorbitant prices. What we always try to remind viewers is an ultra-low mileage vehicle could be as costly for service as a high mileage one, as the typical wear-and-tear service might not have been performed on a limited driven vehicle.
Hard to say, so far early Lexus models haven't really seen the same level of enthusiasm from classic buyers, but something like this might become sought after as newer cars become more complicated.
It’s become a cult following for people who want a reliable car that is nice without payments. It’s a cult following because it’s dependable and easy to fix (most things can be DIY) .. there’s no reason to sell it since it brings more value having it than selling it for 4-7k best bang for buck
We're hoping to be able to feature the LS 460 at some point, we've received a number of comments from owners saying it's just not as reliable as this generation, but apparently the latest LS is better.
PRN_TestDrive The 4.6L V8 isn’t as smooth, presumably due to the addition of direct injection, so the engine has a lot more “clacking” sound to it, but boy is it faster than the 4.3! 385 hp makes a huge difference. My service advisor at my local Toyota dealer used to work for the Lexus dealership and he said he knew of several 430 owners that upgraded to the 460, hated it and went back to 430.
That sounds about right from what I've heard in the comments. Seems like people who had this generation and upgraded to yours didn't like it as much. Still must be a great vehicle regardless!
I've both owned and daily driven a '99 Toyota 4-Runner, and a '02 LS 430. 370,000 km on the 4-Runner before Ontario winter finally took its toll, and my LS is about to ding 420,000 km. I want something easier on gas... But I'm going to ditch it only when it explodes. But it's not going to, it will never die.
Thanks! We hope our other content is to your liking also, we don't always get the chance to feature the older cars like this Lexus, but we're always on the hunt for unique and interesting classics!
Are these cars easy to maintain and cheap repairs? , I know all cars have there flaws and have to pay repairs here and there but like Mercedes and BMW they are very expensive to maintain and repairs, if it cost $700-$900 yearly to maintain-repair the lexus ls430 than I will get one immediately! Or if every 5 years I have to pay that big $1000-$1500 repair than it's still fine , I just dont want to be paying repair payments every godammn 3 months!, if I get one I will take very good care of it and keep up the maintenance in order for it to last until it finally dies, I want one really bad and already have one that I can buy with only 110miles! , I can buy it with cash right now for only $9K but debating because I heard v8 engine toyotas are expensive to repair.... plus I'm tired of driving my 2000 toyota echo and ready for an upgrade , dont know very much about cars and appreciate the help! And of course I'm doing my own research as well but would like advice and the pros and cons from owners with a bias opinion thanks!
They're easy and cheap to maintain compared with a similar spec & year BMW 7 Series or Mercedes S-Class. The owner of this still has it and plans on keeping it as long as possible. Since we filmed this episode last year they haven't had to do anything aside from oil changed.
When the V8 needs work such as valve cover gaskets, starter motor, timing belt and water pump, cam phasers, etc., they are very expensive to repair. If service costs are major considerations, the best compromise is an ES350, or any ES depending on what you can find.
I have been driving a 2004 Lexus LS 430 medium luxury package for nearly six years. Bought it when it had about 80,000 km, and it now has closer to 240,000 km. This vehicle is so graceful and drama free. LS 400 was a legendary vehicle, but Lexus perfected this vehicle in the model years 2004-2006. They have only gone downhill since then. The 2013-2017 models were much better than the 2007-2012 models. The new LS 500 is still TBD. I wish Benz or Lexus would bring back the old boxy designs. They are so cool and timeless.
That's impressive! Can't beat the reliability on this generation, that's for sure. I'm surprised that Lexus and now Toyota's design language has gotten aggressive, but I've read interviews with their upper management and understand where they're coming from now. They seem to feel it's the only way to attract younger buyers that will help grow the brands.
@@PRNTestDrive I was 31 when I bought the LS430, so Lexus management is high on something because they are losing their loyal fans. If I ever plan on upgrading my LS, it will probably be a newer S550. Liking a classy design has nothing to do to age. You can 20 and appreciate classy things. How many so called young people can afford a brand new LS500? Not many.
Is it also an Ultra Luxury? We did read some complaints from owners during our research that the keyless entry/smart key can cause the battery to drain on the car if it isn't used often. Hopefully that isn't an issue for theirs!
PRN_TestDrive I was mistaken, one was an ultra luxury. I called my parents to double check lol. Not a single issue to report so I guess my dad lucked out
i put nearly 350,000 miles on mine virtually trouble free. the only actual unscheduled maintenance was an alternator around 100k, and front wheel bearings near 200k, and obviously brakes. over 300k it was ready for a full suspension overhaul. if i can find a low mileage ultimate i may get another one.
That was one of the small problems on this also, one of the parking sensors needed to be replaced. It was something we had to do on our 2001 BMW 740iL, usually it's a straightforward replacement.
In it's time this was the best Luxury flagship vehicle out there. Incredible design, quality and reliability, unlike the German competitors that had questionable reliability.
Someone traded "Jazzy" in after only two years... I still wonder to this day what the hell they were thinking! 2005 Lexus LS 430 sport suspension package :)
A great review if a great car. I have owned a 1984 LS400 for twelve years and a 2005 LS430 for five years. The LS400 was great for it's time but the LS430 is a timely car that is meant to be driven. Two things I need to point out about your review. There are not many of the LS430s with the Executive Package that the car you showed in the video. The package was a very expensive option at around $10,000 USD. The package included the rear reclining seat along with all of the controls. The second thing that was very obvious is that the steering wheel was replaced at some point. Its obvious by the different wood. The wheel should match the rest if the trim. Thanks for the review.
Steering wheel is the original one. These are facelift ls with ultra luxury package in NA, mine got the exact same bell and whistle with the exact same leather color and steering wheel wood on my 05ul. All other ul I’ve seen have this type of steering wheel wood, so it is either original or Toyota made a recall at some point
Thank you for checking it out! We've had it on our list for a little while now and we're lucky we have contacts in the Toronto press circuit that hold onto awesome cars like this!
My 22.5 yo LS400 has been my daily driver for more than 20 years. I will never part with it. Yes, I've looked at all succeeding models including the LS500. In my view, Lexus seems to have lost its way. My company used to provide me with new MBs. Despite perfect maintenance, they were very unreliable...pleasant to drive but trouble-prone. I sold the company...bought the Lexus. Incidentally, I was very disappointed by Lexus dealer service. Much of the information they gave me and which I heard them give to other customers was entirely wrong. Some of the maintenance work done on my car wasn't done correctly. So if you don't know a good deal about the car, I would strongly urge the use of a good, high-quality shop with an excellent reputation in your community for all non-warranty work. You will need VERY few repairs over the decades anyhow.
I have a 2001 Celsior, (the Japanese model) 94K has all the same options,... but a lot more wood, the rear-view mirror and centre instrument frame , and also rear seat massage, which I don't see there
Very interesting that they’d omit those features on the US Models, perhaps Toyota felt they could sell the LS without any loss of sales without those features for this market.
It's crazy that this vehicle was made nearly 20 years ago and is still looks great. I seen a couple of these on the road. And they still look like something that could have been made today
The Lexus LS, a masterpiece of Japanese engineering.
Think of a Lexus LS, as a Japanese Mercedes S-Class, except unlike a Mercedes it’s RELIABLE.
That's the easiest way to think of it. The LS 430 is a serious machine.
how reliable are they? Thinking of buying one and they’re around 13k with 50k miles on average. Good bargain or??
Miguel well for example I drive one with 216,000 miles many people that own them even have 400,000 or 500,000 miles on them. A low mileage one like that won’t be cheap.
@@ysldonzeti Very good deal, one of the most reliable cars made. I am looking at one with 125k miles for 9K
@@ysldonzeti l have 320000 miles on mine. If you want one l would buy a 2005 model. That is last year they made the ls430.
I lost my dad this year and he purchased this vehicle in 2016. After dad passed, I drove it the 1100 miles home and was shocked at how smooth it was as well as the dependability and gas mileage. I have been taking good care of it with regular washing and detailing. When I drive it, it is an absolute pleasure. Best car I have ever driven. The power and sport modes combined are just so smooth. This vehicle truly has a get up and go way about it. Dad knew cars and he sure chose a great one. If you ever have the ability to test this one out and purchase, I highly recommend.
I'm very sorry for your loss. It sounds like your father had great taste in cars at least! I was very impressed with this car when I drove it, there's one (only one) for sale in Quebec right now but it isn't the Ultra Luxury trim. I'm tempted to take a look at it.
You were 1100 miles away from your Dad when he was sick SMMFH. YOU'RE nothing but a user an a pathetic son
By now, a 15 year old S-Class or 7-Series would be relegated to the salvage yard, after becoming a colossal money pit for its' last 3 owners and having virtually no resale value. Lexus are almost timeless and their reliability, longevity & resale value reflect it.
It's hard to disagree with you when my 18 year old BMW 7 Series is basically a colossal money pit and hasn't been driven properly in two years 😭
@@PRNTestDrive As I try to tell people, German cars are a great lease value for 2-4 years, but after that, forget about it. Their value drops so fast, for obvious reasons. Lexus / Toyota make for a great long term ownership experience. Oh, great review on the 2004 Lexus, by the way...
Thanks! Each older Lexus we've featured so far has had very little to worry about in terms of maintenance. They're the only classic cars we end up recommending people buy if they're looking for something reliable to daily drive as their only vehicle.
I have a 2001 BMW 740iL which is in excellent shape. Nowhere near the junkyard.
@@t.l.robinson2162 Congrats! That's terrific. But your situation is NOT the norm. Most BMWs begin to turn into massive money pits after 7-10 yrs.
Great video man. Didn't realize how teched out these were.
Thanks! I think they’re pretty close in terms to what the S-Class and 7 Series had at the time. I don’t think the 2003 S 55 AMG we did had a backup camera, although the factory one on this Lexus wasn’t working.
@@PRNTestDrive I’m German and I love German cars and years ago back in the 70s and 80s Germany made some great reliable cars but ever since the EU and no more Deutschmark and a few other problems The beautiful MB and BMW and Audi have developed longevity problems. Their engines are top notch and nobody beats them but it’s the other stuff made mainly electronics that just don’t last. So I started driving a Lexus LS 430 and it is the finest car I have ever ridden in since I was a child back in the 70s
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@@edwardluth7740 would you recommend an 04? Currently looking at one
@@grandmastagrimm8773 Ya. An 04-06 a bunch of improvements as you probably know including a 6 speed auto and a little more refinement of a ride. I have an 05 and it’s trouble free. Minimum problems. So yes any 04-06 I would buy if the maintenance records are good. Best car you will ever own of that period.
Got that car for a year now. Best car I’ve ever driven. The build quality is impressive
Agreed! Hopefully you get to hold onto yours for a while!
I got one just like this about a year ago, minus ultra luxury. Very good car.
I’m 18 and just learning about cars and stuff. Was wondering if this or any other Lexus would be a worth of a purchase?
We've had the pleasure of featuring the 1999 Lexus ES 300, 1998 Lexus GS 400, & 1999 Lexus LS 400. All of them are seriously reliable vehicles for what you get out of them. They're really the only classic luxury cars we would recommend to a first time/young buyer.
@@jboy1k413 I'd say start with an ES or GS V6. I started with a GS300 and it was a pleasure to drive
This is literally waaaay better than any brand new Ford, Chev, Dodge car.
I think that's why these are so hard to find in the resale market, people just don't want to get rid of them.
I agreeeeee🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I always drove a Lincoln or Gm I've had about 20 or so cars.
I just bought a 09 Ls 460 and I am never going back
Lmao yeahhh I hate to point out Caption Obvious. This is better than any 2024 new Chevy
jay frick how do you like it so far?
Simply the best car ever made.
I think we got really lucky finding one of the best examples of this, easily top car we’ve filmed.
Right behind the LS460L 👍
I've been a LS owner for 21 years and think you are likely right.
By what measurement?
Only issue is no awd for the snow
My deceased father bought this same 2004 model 2nd hand in 2006 from the Lexus Dealership for $45k AUD, the original RRP in 2004 was $178k AUD. Crazy depreciation huh? But a bargain for us. $45k wouldn't have even got us a current 2006 IS200 at that dealership so getting an 'as new' LS430 Flagship with 35k KM's on it for that price felt like the bargain of the century.
The LS430 is impeccable, the craftsmanship, thoughtfulness of the design, quality of materials, production and finishing. The brilliance of the platform and the surprising amount of power makes this a very special car. Whether on the highway, twisty coastal roads or dirt roads it handles them all magnificently whilst keeping you insulated from it all in that supremely luxurious cabin. It's immense.
In the 15 years of ownership I've never had a single part failure, only ever had to spend money on parts that naturally wear over the life of the car. When you consider the literal HUNDREDS of motors, dozens of computers & circuit boards and buttons/switches, 1000's of wires measuring over a mile in length, powering all of these sophisticated luxurious amenities then that feat of design & engineering becomes all the more impressive. It's one thing for a basic Corolla to be reliable, it's a WHOLE other thing for a fully optioned LS to be reliable.
Clearly Lexus dedicates a significant part of their R&D Budget to ensuring everything they implement is focused towards reliability and longevity.
(Edit, it's 2022 now and everything I wrote is still true, still haven't had any part failures in the 2 and a bit years since I wrote this comment. It's just extraordinary this car.)
I’m sorry about your father, but we’re glad to hear you’re still driving this!
Ah yes 2002
@@YourboiM Great year, great year. :P
How much is it to change the timing belt and water pump
I LOVE my 2005. One of the best cars ever built.
My dad is looking to replace his S Class with the LS from 2004 to 2006. How is yours staying up? Any major repairs so far?
Sang Eeth I have owned it for 13 months and put 12k miles on it. All trouble free. I did replace the water pump and timing belt as there were no records that it had previously been done. I am about to do a suspension overhaul just to get it back to perfection. The car is great. I would narrow it down to a 2005-2006 the 2004s had an issue with the transmission that was later solved. Every single one of my friends that ride in it all say the same thing. “How the hell is this 14 years old?” All the interior is immaculate and it’s got 120k on it now.
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2004 are just as reliable if not more so. The transmission was a recall that was addressed early on. It was minor too.
I am looking for one as we speak...
2016 Rx 350
2014 Is 350
1987 944 Turbo
Thinking about getting rid of my S430 for one. I miss driving a Lex
As an 2000 LS400 owner i envey for the tech in this car but i prefer the timeless shape of the 400.
I can definitely see that, I had the same feeling when we filmed the 2007 Alpina B7 after owning my 2001 740iL for a while.
Many do. I've owned a '98 LS400 for 21 years and agree with you. However, if I were to encounter a really great LS430, say a 2004-06, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and use it on weekends.
It's the opposite, Japan makes the best luxury cars and normal cars and you should never consider anything from Germany
I've certainly enjoyed the Japanese cars I've driven over the years, the 1990 Accord I owned was insanely reliable.
I have a lexus ls430 2001. These cars are bulletproof and will regular maintenance will last a very long time. I have 300,000 miles orginal starter and alternator. Replaced radiator at 250,000. Have replaced valve cover gaskets too. Just replace fluids and do the timing belt water pump pulleys serpentine every 100,000 miles. I will have to do my 3rd timing belt in a few months. All mechanics tell me these engines are bulletproof and just change oil regularly.
300k miles, that great to hear! We've heard the same thing when it comes to these older Toyota/Lexus engines, oil changes are the most important preventative maintenance you can do to keep it running beautifully.
I just did my first timibg belt on my 98 gs400 today. It was a pretty intense job but the car started and ran fine after, im just hopibg the water pump I changed doesn't leak
JD JD did you use a OEM Aisin water pump?
Did you switch to full synthetic oil?
320k miles on my 99 GS400. Love it...but have really been eyeing the LS430s lately 😂
Wow literally just bought an LS460 😂 but I love the 430 as well looks great even today!
Very nice! We're hoping we can continue our coverage of the Lexus LS by getting the 460 at some point!
It’s been on my personal list to feature forever now, they’re even harder to find than this up here.
This beauty deserves all the care it can get, Ill take it to one of the best auto detailing in the area. Foam wash, Clay bar it, paint correct it and polish. Make that black paint job mirror like, then ceramic coat it
This car still holds its own, it still makes someone glance over. It has that executive yet gangsta appearance.
I’m in a hunt for 2014 LS 460 AWD, white on black or black on black .. yet I love the stylish look from 07’ -12’ .
And this is from someone that originally started looking at CLS -CL 550 , S class , 7 series, A6 -A7, Jaguar XJ. Yet I choose the Lexus LS for various reasons.
Luckily we know the owner, he's a close personal friend, and I know this car gets babied the way it deserves 😀We'd love to feature one of the newer LS 460s, they look seriously impressive anytime we see them on the road.
My favorite car of all time, but I like the 02-03 better for the ease of maintenance to the transmission. HOWEVER, I like the features and the exterior look of the 04-06. I have an 02 with crazy low miles that I plan to give a facelift to, but buying a donor car is just a couple grand cheaper than buying a clean non-wrecked car!
Nice! Definitely keep the 02 if you can, especially if it's low on mileage. We don't see many of these come up for sale.
I've been driving my '01 and it's been a total dream to own. Reliability, style and comfort are the attributes of this LS. I'll drive her for many years to come. Great video as usual 👍😎
Glad to hear it! With a car like this we don't have to say that we hope it will last you a while longer, because we know it will!
Another 01 owner here. Mine has 165k and drives like brand new. I would take it across the country today. Thing is so reliable and so comfortable. These things are so cheap and must be one of the best deals out there.
What's your gas mileage looking like?
@@PRNTestDrive 😁👍
@@TheBravo13x 23 mpg average
This car he is showing has 276,562 miles on it...
Kilometres. It’s a Canadian car.
@@PRNTestDrive so its about 175k miles, it doesn't look it at all.
That’s what I first noticed too! Pretty great condition considering how much driving it’s done.
I wish you guys could come down to California some time, I have a Beautiful immaculate 2 owner fully loaded 2006 Lexus ES330. It has like 85% of the amenities that this has. Ventilated And heated seats, beautiful chrome rims, power rear sunshade, navigation that works, superb Mark Levinson premium audio system, auto rain sensing wipers, (it even has sport tuning suspension) and it looks brand new. Chrystal clear headlights, gorgeous sparkling Champaign paint, no curb rash in the chrome rims etc. AND, it has over 207,000 MILES on it! It’s mechanically perfect, and drives like it’s brand new. It’s pretty peppy as well, the 3.3L V6 is smooth as butter! Wish you guys could review it! I also have an absolute Stunning merlot burgundy colored 2008 Lexus LS460! It’s the most beautiful paint ever, and it’s also immaculate like my other Lexus lol. Wish you guys could review both!
We'd absolutely love to film it one day, sounds amazing! We're still a little too small to get invited out to the domestic media events here in Canada, but hopefully with the steady growth we've had we'll start getting invited, and eventually get invited to things in California! Since a number of the manufacturers have major offices out there media events seem to happen regularly there.
It looks really good but I can see that they got inspired from the Mercedes S class a little
There's definitely some inspiration going on, front end headlight assembly for sure.
Very nice. Very small percentage of LS430 were Ultra Luxury. Went to Lexus dealer in 2011ish and drove an LS430 with 270k miles on it that somebody traded in. Was curious. Absolutely no noises. Drove like new, but of course had all maintenance done.
Not bad at all! We're heard from a few viewers so far who have high mileage LS 430s, regular maintenance is key to keeping these on the road.
@@PRNTestDrive Yeah. Everything should have regular maintenance (including suspension) but the best thing about these is rarely anything occurs outside of expectations.
These vehicle were built to a high standard. Toyota still makes a superb vehicle built to these or higher standards. Love to see you do a review of a new Toyota Land Cruiser or equivalent Lexus and see the comparisons.
The Land Cruiser has always had this legendary status, it's a vehicle I'd love to feature, either new or classic. We're hoping if this episode is successful it will allow us to get some new Lexus models from Toyota's press fleet.
Excellent work been looking forward to this, glad you are also back to reviewing older vehicles. Keep up the good work
I was really looking forward to making this one happen also! We're hoping this will kick off our 2019 season for more full episodes on classics/older vehicles.
Is That One For Sale, Dashboard Prob. in KLMS ,Instead Of MLS.?
I will have this car before I die😁 hands down one of the best cars ever made.
We hope you can make that happen!
I just snagged one.. never saw them for less than $5k I got one from a motivated seller for 2.5k. What they’re saying is true. Drives so smooth. The previous owner put in straight pipes for a throaty v8 sound. I’m planning on returning it to stock so it’s super quiet. I’m totally in love with it. If I did it again, I would get no navigation since it’s a bit dated.. but it’s growing on me bc I don’t have to use my phone for directions lol get it!!
@@PRNTestDrive And so shall a man say it , so shall it be, Finally proud owner of This car O4Ultra LS 430, fully stocked, will be covering her too synthetic oil for the remainder of her life with Premium Gas. And bumping the windows for extra privacy but that's all. ✌🏽Ultra
@@swatisquantum I have one too. The mufflers rotted out on me so I put straight pipes after the resonators. I strongly recommend this approach, especially if you're feeling cheap. It's still whisper quiet. It sounds a bit meatier when idling but there's no droning in the cabin, you can actually hear the exhaust note when you push the pedal but it goes dead silent when cruising at moderately high speeds, and it still sounds great when you slam it. I haven't tried it on a very, very high-speed cruise yet though, but at regular highway speeds it's just a straight-up improvement, best of both worlds. A very happy "accident" considering I just did it because the mufflers for this car are wicked expensive.
U get one ? I'm getting one on Monday
The LS is really the only true competition to the S class imo. The 7 series and A8 are both great large cars, but they go toward the sport aspect of the experience. I absolutely love the LS400 and LS460, (the 430 being my least favorite body style.)
I agree! The S-Class is the most versatile in the segment, you can go for maximum comfort/luxury with an S 500, or get the performance/sport feel with either AMG. The second gen LS 400 we did was a real nice car, really can't beat it for reliability.
One of two in Canada?? Well, then i've got the other one. Briarwood Pearl / black leather and suede headliner and pillars, with every conceivable option for that year, including dealer installed SAT. Bought it from the original owner. Full records and a invoice of $112,000 after all said and done when he purchased it new from the dealer in Feb 2004. I was under the impression that there were 17 of them sold in all of Canada, but if you have verification that there are only two of them, well then i feel pretty special. Mine is in showroom condition with 315,000kms. EDIT> Just noticed you said 1 of 2 BLACK ON BLACK. so then Lexus Canada is correct when the say 17 units were sold in the Ultra Luxury package in 2004
We clarify at the end, but even at the start I said it’s one of two black on black sold in Canada, clarifying that it’s specific to the 2004 model year with 17 total Ultra Luxuries for the 2004 model year in Canada.
I’ve got one of 17. Cashmere interior. 192km
Yes, this car was way ahead of it's time, but don't bother trying to buy a used one. The owners will never sell, unless there is something really wrong with the car. And these are extremely expensive to fix.
One of our viewers just picked up one just like this, but had to go to the US to find it. They do exist, but you're right, owners are pretty unwilling to sell these because of how darn good they are.
The thing is you generally don’t need to fix it. I have had mine for 10 years now and I have replaced the fuel cap.
I've had the same '98 LS400 for 21 years and it has been a marvel of reliability, a joy to own. Strangers still approach me to ask whether it might be for sale. If possible, I'd advise avoiding the dealers for "service". I always change the oil and filter myself (conventional at 4-5K). I've had German "luxury" brands in the past and they are utter junk by comparison. Reliability is the hallmark of high quality engineering, design and construction. The Germans lack all of those. The exception might be MB's body construction. And they do handle well when everything's actually working and they are out of the repair shop. I once borrowed a friend's then new Bentley Continental and was happy to get back into my own car!
Very nice, definitely keep holding onto it! We agree that taking any of these older cars to a trusted mechanic over the dealership is the right call, it's something we forgot to mention during this episode.
The Germans did do very well with their cars. But sadly the culture and big corporatism has changed all the great German cars. I buy Lexus myself and I'm German. But Lexus here is better than the new Lexus.
You are absolutely right. Bought a used LS400 at 96K. Utterly reliable and enjoyable car. Tried a MB 2000 E43O 4Matic, first V8 sedan all wheel drive from Benz. Heavily optioned, Brand new order just for me. A beautiful car. $15,000 warranty works first year. Sold 70,000 K. It was a total lemon. I never will own a Mercedes again. BMW also disastrous, serving all the time. Stranded, Towed out of your driveway, smoking on the side of the road. Branding desire until you own one. Audi also same disaster. We’ve had five Lexus now. I have my 2001 LS 430 ultra luxury package white interior, midnight jade green exterior with Erica, the gray burled walnut look. 20 years old running beautifully. Picked up at 2010 LS 460, L AWD ultra premium luxury package, TV between the rear seats on the centre armrest, and unusual package instead of the executive package which loses the third middle seat in the rear. I don’t desire a new Lexus. Not a Lexus LS 460 or 500. I have adjusted to the spindle grille in your face statement. Ya, they look cool. But the interior seems hoaxy. Trying to hard the make a statement. Interestingly, the new phantom, + Rolls-Royce ghost are Deemphasizing ostentatious adornments and simplifying the interior design. I guess it’s sort of like juxtaposed baroque to art deco. Lol
@@MrMrremmington Had MB for 20 yrs (company bought them for me). They were markedly inferior to the Lexus LS400. Friends had a new BMW 740...left them stranded many times. I looked at the LS500 and was unimpressed. RR has lost its way in styling and then the tech will always be highly questionable. Friends/neighbors had never been able to keep theirs on the road. Friend bought a new Bentley Continental. It arrived with factory defects and was very frequently in the shop. He got rid of it after a year or so. He, too, switched to an LS.
I've had my '98 LS400 for almost 24 yrs. and it has been superb is all respects. If I buy another car, it will be an EV.
What's wrong with your e430, I never have any serious problem with my e55 in past 8 years. Little bit diy is required, nothing major at all@@MrMrremmington
I have no idea but I always liked lexus over german cars. Still cant believe its from 2014 so advanced. Nice video very detailed
Not only advanced, but insanely well built considering the mileage. I'm really impressed with this generation, I think it's the sweet spot of classic looks with unbeatable reliability.
2004
Ye just realised i put 2014 instead of 2004 looool sorry had a trip 2 days ago still recovering
I have a 2005 ultra luxury that looks exactly like this. Best $10,000 ever spent on a vehicle.
Hold onto it if you can!
Totally agree I love my 04ultra converting her too synthetic oil for the rest of her life and bumping the windows for extra privacy. Never selling.im a lifer😁✌🏽Ultra
How do I differentiate btw an ordinary one and an ultra luxury pls someone answer i want to buy one soon
Double 07 I think a big way to tell is by the back middle compartment has those buttons on it
How is you air suspension?
I just bought an '01 LS430 UL a couple of months ago and it has been an absolute dream. I drive this car 2 hours a day for my work commute and I could not be happier with the purchase. So glad I was able to find a UL. The '04 UL looks like it has some nice upgrades over my generation :)
Congrats on the purchase! You really can't ask for a better daily driver, that's for sure.
I have it in Pearl White, just hit 90k miles
Very nice, hold onto it if you can!
I got rid of my 2005 with 286,000 miles on it. Now I want it back!! Best car I ever owned.
I can imagine! Selling a solid car like this must be hard.
Stunning car. Pick any of the so called premium germans from this year and most of them have gone threw gearbox repair,engine repair,or half the electronics doesnt work. That thing will outlive even the latest BMW and Mercedes. Not performance oriented,sure,if you want a sport car,get a sport car,this is a luxury cruiser.
Well said, and I think that might be why Lexus is turning away it's core customers today. They've really gone towards the sport side of car building, even the new LS has a very aggressive design to it.
Yes but is no one going to mention that that stock bottom end can handle 600hp
"Pretty innovative tech, at least for Lexus"
You know, in 1982 JDM Toyo Corona had parking sensors and in 1986 JDM Toyota Corolla had power folding mirrors, but for sum reason People say that it was w140 what had these features first. There's a lot of examples like that.
Toyota coud easily outdo any automaker in tech and engineering innovations. It could do cool spot cars, but than it wouldn't har reputation.
They are doing everything right cos they are highest capitalisation car company and let's not forget that LS vastly outselles any competitor.
Good points. Each manufacturer in this segment pushes the envelope forward. I always think about how long it took BMW, Audi, Mercedes, & Lexus to develop tech like radar cruise control or ultrasonic parking sensors, compared to how long the rest of the industry took to catch on. Now the tech is copied within a year or two and can be found on entry-level consumer cars.
I have 1997 LS 400 still drive smooth and reliable
Glad to hear that! We drove the second gen LS about a year before filming this episode.
classic
One of the best value sedans you can get and best built..love that thing
Can’t go wrong with it! The only problem is finding one for sale, as of filming this only 3 were on the market in Canada.
@@PRNTestDrive i have my clk55 convertible out of storage now if you want to do a video...im in markham...car is mint...its the w208
If we’re in the area during the summer I’ll let you know!
Had an '01 with 50k miles on her ..traded it in with 90 on it a year ago and still hurt over it.
Best car ive ever owned hands down. Mine was black too. 2001 ls430
Sorry to hear that you sold it! But 40k miles in a year is really good, seems like it served you well.
@@PRNTestDrive i had her for 5 years.
I have owned over 30 cars/trucks and Lexus is my favorite. That Ls430 still has that spot
Chris O'Connor how much u sell her for?
I miss my 1995 LS400 😢 I loved that automobile 😍😍😍 never should have sold it! Alas... the ignorance of youth🤷🏾♂️
We all make terrible choices when we're younger, I regret getting rid of my first car too.
I had a 95 and miss it also.
I bought an 03 LS 430 with 65K miles on the clock three years ago. About to cross 100K and not a single major issue. No major problems so far. One mild one is my driver mirror doesn't tilt. And a parking sensor shorted after i went though a puddle that was WAY too deep. I use it as my d.d. as well. Been living through humidity of Virginia to the salted snowy roads of Indiana all year. Its been 100% perfect and never let me down
We're glad to hear it! I think over the course of time we'll hear from a lot of owners like you who have these cars and have little to no issues with them.
These look better than comparable new cars. Lexus did a great job with these. You can pick these up in my area for a great priced.
Agreed! There aren't many older Lexus models available up here in Canada, but the US has a lot more selection across the board.
I just bought one 2004 LS 430 and I call it the black swan
Omg.
That's wassup
Congrats on the purchase!
But its white.....
michael betts how much you paid how many miles it have?
Ultra Lux is over-loaded with everything - stuff I wouldn't use - including side shades, massage chair and wine chiller etc. in the back and switchable air suspension that will eventually leak or break, so the thing won't sit level. The Sport Suspension option models handle better and you actually use that suspension every time you drive it. Look for the badge behind front wheels.
Ultra Luxury might not be for everyone, that's a valid point. Luckily Lexus offered some pretty good kit across the board for the LS 430 like you mentioned, so there's options out there.
Always like the LS., the SC convertible is a beautiful car IMO. Lexus of that era look classy, but the 460 is a dream car for me. Great review.
Do not get the 07-09 LS460. It breaks down alot. I've owned one and it was my dream car too. I got a 430 now.
What sort of problems did you end up having with your LS 460?
@@MrBurakkoo Exactly. Choosing a 460 over a 430 is very unwise.
I have the gs 430 I call it the baby ls lol quality on these cars are #1
Really? I just hit 225k in my GS460 and I’ve owned it since 120k and I’ve only replaced the starter at 180k. I’ve never heard of engine or transmission problems with the LS460
God that car is good looking
I agree! I'd love to own one of these.
Great video on the LS430. I love the LS400 and LS430 very timeless classic.
Glad you liked it, thanks! I really enjoyed putting these episodes together, Lexus made some fantastic cars that are still seriously good by today’s standards.
@@PRNTestDrive cool, keep them coming. There’s two LS430’s for sale here in Christchurch New Zealand, ones done 18,700kms and the others done 26,900kms both are fully optioned.
Love my 95 LS400.... my trusty elegant daily driver. These are the best sedans ever made. Can't beat the luxury and reliability
Agreed! Either one you go with is great. We enjoyed driving the 99 LS 400 we did, has some unique features as well.
You look like such a nice guy and great review. You earned a subscribe! Looking at an ls430 in the near future as a new daily driver. Just so good
Much appreciated! I'm glad to have you on board. If you can find one you won't regret it!
Hi, someone please help me locate this kind of car. I want a black 04 Lexus LS 430 with seat color brown. Please update me, thanks.
I started with a 98 GS400. Was hooked after that. Now, 05 LS430 UL. Both great cars but the GS400 was my favorite. Dont tell my LS, or Tundra...
Very nice! That seems to be the way it goes with Lexus, once you have one you’ll never waste your time with anything else 😉
GS400/430 is the best imo. A mix between sport and luxury
Excellent review! I have a 2007 Lexus Es350 UL package that you can review anytime you come to NYC!
If we're down that way we'll definitely let you know!
@@PRNTestDrive comparing these 2 in non UL format which one is a better car? I also posted this question on a different thread. I’m looking to get into either a 2007-09 ES350 or a 2004 LS430 with About 80-95k miles. Their both posted for sale for about $8500 to $10,000
I won’t be using this as a daily driver and I put about 6 to 7000 miles per year on average
Obviously these are in 2 different size categories and have different size engines. Guess it comes down to practically and size preference.
I currently own a 2013 ES350 with only 42,500 miles which i recently listed for sale. Love it but looking to lower my payment.
I have a 2000 Lexus LS400 with 376xxx miles. It's my daily driver, and it runs and drives flawlessly! But I so wish I had an ultra luxury package LS430. By far the greatest LS Lexus has ever made!
Very nice! Awesome mileage for the year, hope it keeps on serving you well.
@@PRNTestDrive thanks man! Me too lol
Someone once said... YOU DONT DRIVE LEXUS, LEXUS DRIVES YOU.
One day that's going to be literally true with autonomous driving.
Very True...I drive the 2010 LS 460 and that car literally drives me when I’m cruising, I was shocked when I discovered the radar cruise control, showed the feature to my uncle who’s a huuuuge Merc fan but was blown away by that feature,as well as that Autopilot feature.
By far the best Luxury Sedan ever.
I have a 2004 Lexus SC430 with 53K on the clock. It has the same engine as the LS in your video. Plenty of performance and built to last as long as you do the routine maintenance they'll last a very, very long time. As you said, "they are bulletproof." The build quality in older Lexus cars are incredible and they are beautiful inside and out. I have 3 cars: a Tacoma, Miata, and the SC430. But, I've been rubbernecking the 3rd generation LS for a while now. Maybe this year. Good review!
Thanks! I think if you can find one, jump on it! At least up here in Canada there aren't many of them for sale, and something like this Ultra Luxury comes up rarely, the owner of this happened to know the person who owned it and made a deal.
I'm Looking for A Low Mlg.04-06 LS 430,But What's The story on Their Navigators,Heard Rumors That When They Die,It's Not Possible to Reprogram or Refresh Them? Ones W/ Nav.In My Part of Country Usually Go For About $1000 More Than Ones W/Out Nav.
It seems to be the case, we went through a lot of forum posts for the LS 430 during our research and we saw a number of posts about it. Much like other luxury cars from the time you'd have to source an OEM unit as replacing it with an aftermarket setup is a lot harder than the non-navigation system offered on lower trims.
It's a wonderful car. Thanks Mr Livesey nice video.
Thanks for checking it out! We had a blast making this one happen.
I want to replace my '99 Camry V6 with an LS, but I don't want to give the Camry up either because the quality is just too great.
If you could hold onto the Camry I would suggest doing so, find clean ones are getting hard these days, and the reliability is hard to beat.
@@PRNTestDrive You got that right. I have zero intention of selling her. One family car & garage kept since new. Just a few granny dings.
@@alpaljl not bad at all!
I need to upgrade though car is beast and holds value BMW and Mercedez can't touch the LS in longlife and value...
There's no doubt about that.
My moms friend took me for a spin in her Lexus LS 430 she played honeymoon avenue by Ariana grande and my tall “6’3 sunk into her car soaking up every moment I loved it and always will remember it
Very nice! Hopefully she holds on to it, or passes it on to your friend, these are hard cars to come by!
OHHH look at that suede headliner. Nice
Suede's the way to go! It had a different feel/look than I'm used to though, it was the only thing that threw me for a loop when we were filming.
It's not suede..it's Alcantara, a special brand name material used in many high end cars as well as the lining in Louis Vuitton handbags...
Yup, even in the United States these cars are sort of hard to fine. I’m glad I was able to buy mine as last year. Been driving it a lot,And been going on many Road trips, so far so good, no problems. Check out my channel if you want to see my car. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Glad to hear you've got one and you're getting the most out of it!
Great video PRN! I have this exact Black UL with the burnt wood. Mine is a 2006. Best car I have ever owned. In fact, I would say this was the last greatest flagship Lexus. After the LS430, Lexus started to cheapen out on the quality and even worse decided to step away from pure luxury and lean more sporty now.
I owned a 1996 LS400 before this, and while I loved that car too, the LS430 is a major step up because they managed to retain most if not all of the best features of the LS400 while bringing in tons of new tech.
how are the massage seats in the ls430 back seats?
@@Matt-cw1mv Kind of useless if you ask me. They don't massage, but more or less vibrate. And the vibration can be adjusted between slow, medium and fast. There are no modules that press against your back like a real massage would do.
@@joemcdonough7509 do you get any pleasure from it at all?
@@Matt-cw1mv Nope, none. Not worth it at all. All it does is make your voice sound funny. The best features on the car are:
1) Engine, simply perfection, smooth, powerful, quiet and most of all bulletproof reliable.
2) Seats - supremely comfortable and of the highest quality and buttery smooth leather.
3) Tomb like silence interior. It gets eerily quiet cruising on a nicely paved road.
4) Soft touch closing doors. I love coming home late at night and just lightly tap the door close and let it pull itself shut without waking the family.
5) Headlights - they are super bright, even with the cloudy oxidation forming on it. I'll get those restored soon.
6) Fit and finish - My 13 year old lexus fit and finish is still top notch. All the draws and cubbies open up with soft quiet and fluid like movement. I recently sat in a 3 year old Porsche Panamera, and everything I touched creaked and felt really cheap to the touch.
@@joemcdonough7509 how many miles do you have on your UL? I got mine with 75K on the dash, and now she's at 84K. I love it. And what tires do you have on it?
Nice video! I have a 2004 UL 80,000 miles. Something I figured out that other owners may want to know. The I AGREE SCREEN. I also find any navigation system in a vehicle that does not connect to my phone useless. Go into settings on the touch screen and turn off the display screen. When you start the car the Lexus logo will appear and the screen will go blank after a few seconds with no I AGREE message ever appearing. If you push climate control or audio you can make any adjustments or changes you want and after about 10 seconds the screen will go blank again. However if you use the map/navigation the display screen will go back to default on.
Good to know!
Just bought a 2003 LS430 with 84k on it a few weeks ago here in Michigan. Timing belt seems to be the key maintenance item to perform. Lexus says at 90k but now that they are older might be a good idea just to handle it ASAP. Hood and trunk struts generally fail but are simple fixes. Awesome video as usual.
Congrats on the purchase! The owner of this one also did the timing belt as a preventative maintenance routine shortly after buying it.
Yes. Consider replacing the water pump at the same time (though I didn't), tensioner and all pulleys with OEM parts. The struts are 5' jobs to replace. I got mine on Ebay. Check your air filter and cabin filter, too. Easy to replace. Plugs will likely last 200K. Change conventional oil at about 5K and synthetic at 7-7.5K. DO NOT substitute coolants. Don't flush transmission.
I believe it is safe to say that any Lexus is a rebranded Toyota intended for the world, that would otherwise not come out as a left hand car except for the ones under the Lexus brand.
Toyota Z30 Soarer and the Altezza are examples of such cars.
But then again, Toyota Celsior was the king before the Crown took over.
One example of the Crown Royal can actually be found in China as a left hand drive car, although this car was never meant to be sold as a left hander, but I found one.
That's a valid point. It's worked out better for Toyota/Lexus that Honda did with Acura, trying to rebadge some JDM & euro-spec models for the North American market.
Like a (Yakuza) boss
the problem with used-luxury cars is that finding a fully-loaded version is not easy because they don't launch a trims as same as economic brands such as for example: tajoe premier. mercedes and lexus etc. they let the customer build his own car. you will be lucky if you find a fully loaded.
Very good points, which is why we wanted to jump on this episode when we had the chance. The likelihood of us finding another LS 430 UL is pretty slim, so it gave us a good opportunity to show what the best of this vehicle could be.
Toyota and lexus are just the best built cars. Period
You definitely can't go wrong with these Lexus models!
Over the years, I've had several luxury sedans. Besides a sedan as family car, I also have a 2+2 performance car so minimally, I must have over 200bhp for my right foot. A Merc E-class which I only had for 3 months because its too boring, a Lexus GS300 which I had for 6 years because its just too nice, very reliable and low cost of ownership. Then, I changed to a BMW 730Li but irritating small problems here and there plus the high cost of maintenance, I sold it and changed to an SUV (never own one previously) driving the Subaru Forester XT because car prices went crazy in Singapore while still keeping my R35 GTR. Its 4 years now and I am looking to change the Forester to a Lexus again. In mind right now is a 2015-2017 Lexus ES300H Luxury. Hope to find a suitable one now. Cars in Singapore is the most expensive in the world.
We’ve heard that before too about car prices there. The current Lexus models are really nice, we haven’t had the pleasure of driving the hybrid ES 300 but we did a 2018 and enjoyed it.
I just traded my August 2015 Subaru Forester XT for a December 2015 Lexus ES300h Luxury. Will be collecting the car in 5 days after the weekend and paperwork with the authorities. I am paying S$118,000 or USD88,000 for it and can used for 6 years. In singapore, before purchasing a new car, a certificate must be bidded first due to limitations by the government who will dictate how many certificates are available each month to control the car population on the road. Depending on available certificates, supply and demand, this paper alone has ranged from S$30,000 to S&$100,000+. After the tenth year, cars are either scrapped or owners can pay for another certificate to use the car for another 5 or 10 years and this certificate price will be based on the average of the prevailing 3 months. For example, in August 2008 when i purchased the GTR, I paid $60,000 for the certificate alone, 300% government taxes based on declared value of the car at import, dealer's profit etc I paid a total of $308,000 (USD$227,000) to use it for 10 years and in July 2018, I paid another S$37,000 (USD28,000) so i can use the car till July 2028.
Beige interior looks much better and this car hands down beats all other German cars this car is beautiful .. hands down no bs please 💯💯 don’t compare it to donkey cars this car is litrally quite soo quite also soo beautiful
I like some colour for my interiors also.
Germany think they build reliable cars your buying a name not reliably can’t beat a Lexus for luxury and reliability especially the LS430 top notch
That's very true. There have been, and are some reliable (relatively speaking) BMWs and Mercedes-Benz models out there, but it's usually the exception, whereas it's the rule with Lexus. The vehicles we've featured from Lexus so far, ranging from the 90s and early 2000s models have all been solid, even in today's market.
I miss my baby. Boy the LS 430 has a super tight turning radius compared to the next generation LS 460 L
The only way these newer full-size luxury cars can keep similar turning radius' will be with 4 wheel steering like we've seen on the Cadillac CT6 and BMW 7 Series.
I’m looking at a low mileage less than 30K0 LS 430. The seller wants $25k for it. That’s more than double the KBb value.
That's pretty pricey, but I believe it. We're getting to a point where any low-mileage vehicle seems to invite high ask prices because of news stories surrounding one-off sales at exorbitant prices. What we always try to remind viewers is an ultra-low mileage vehicle could be as costly for service as a high mileage one, as the typical wear-and-tear service might not have been performed on a limited driven vehicle.
Would this Lexus become a classic such as BMW or Mercedes?
Hard to say, so far early Lexus models haven't really seen the same level of enthusiasm from classic buyers, but something like this might become sought after as newer cars become more complicated.
It’s become a cult following for people who want a reliable car that is nice without payments. It’s a cult following because it’s dependable and easy to fix (most things can be DIY) .. there’s no reason to sell it since it brings more value having it than selling it for 4-7k best bang for buck
German and American cars dont come close...watch Hoovies garbage...he gets older cars and you see what kind of state they are in.
He’s definitely the go-to person for prime examples of any vehicle 🙄
He usually buys " the cheapest" of them all. So cant compare lol
That’s what I’ve gathered from other comments and whatnot.
Cheapest s class in the USA. That's one of his cars. Of course its gonna be in bad shape. Iv seen lots of ls430s with bad interior so what
I have an LS460 now, but I miss my 430. Besides the timing belt, it was so much cheaper to maintain.
We're hoping to be able to feature the LS 460 at some point, we've received a number of comments from owners saying it's just not as reliable as this generation, but apparently the latest LS is better.
PRN_TestDrive The 4.6L V8 isn’t as smooth, presumably due to the addition of direct injection, so the engine has a lot more “clacking” sound to it, but boy is it faster than the 4.3! 385 hp makes a huge difference. My service advisor at my local Toyota dealer used to work for the Lexus dealership and he said he knew of several 430 owners that upgraded to the 460, hated it and went back to 430.
That sounds about right from what I've heard in the comments. Seems like people who had this generation and upgraded to yours didn't like it as much. Still must be a great vehicle regardless!
I've both owned and daily driven a '99 Toyota 4-Runner, and a '02 LS 430. 370,000 km on the 4-Runner before Ontario winter finally took its toll, and my LS is about to ding 420,000 km.
I want something easier on gas... But I'm going to ditch it only when it explodes.
But it's not going to, it will never die.
Awesome mileage for your LS!
Is it possible to get one of these without the navigation system and still have the mark levinson system? I want to be able to change the head unit.
IloveBaklava Nope. But the ML amps and subs are known fail points.
I'n the current owner of this exact LS and I absolutely love it. It's hand down the best car I've ever owned!
Hard to beat this car, it was a real treat being able to drive one of these. Any of the older Lexus models we drive are fantastic. Enjoy yours!
bravo. first video ive ever watched from you. keep it up man. chase the dream
Thanks! We hope our other content is to your liking also, we don't always get the chance to feature the older cars like this Lexus, but we're always on the hunt for unique and interesting classics!
Are these cars easy to maintain and cheap repairs? , I know all cars have there flaws and have to pay repairs here and there but like Mercedes and BMW they are very expensive to maintain and repairs, if it cost $700-$900 yearly to maintain-repair the lexus ls430 than I will get one immediately! Or if every 5 years I have to pay that big $1000-$1500 repair than it's still fine , I just dont want to be paying repair payments every godammn 3 months!, if I get one I will take very good care of it and keep up the maintenance in order for it to last until it finally dies, I want one really bad and already have one that I can buy with only 110miles! , I can buy it with cash right now for only $9K but debating because I heard v8 engine toyotas are expensive to repair.... plus I'm tired of driving my 2000 toyota echo and ready for an upgrade , dont know very much about cars and appreciate the help! And of course I'm doing my own research as well but would like advice and the pros and cons from owners with a bias opinion thanks!
They're easy and cheap to maintain compared with a similar spec & year BMW 7 Series or Mercedes S-Class. The owner of this still has it and plans on keeping it as long as possible. Since we filmed this episode last year they haven't had to do anything aside from oil changed.
When the V8 needs work such as valve cover gaskets, starter motor, timing belt and water pump, cam phasers, etc., they are very expensive to repair. If service costs are major considerations, the best compromise is an ES350, or any ES depending on what you can find.
I have been driving a 2004 Lexus LS 430 medium luxury package for nearly six years. Bought it when it had about 80,000 km, and it now has closer to 240,000 km. This vehicle is so graceful and drama free. LS 400 was a legendary vehicle, but Lexus perfected this vehicle in the model years 2004-2006.
They have only gone downhill since then. The 2013-2017 models were much better than the 2007-2012 models. The new LS 500 is still TBD. I wish Benz or Lexus would bring back the old boxy designs. They are so cool and timeless.
That's impressive! Can't beat the reliability on this generation, that's for sure. I'm surprised that Lexus and now Toyota's design language has gotten aggressive, but I've read interviews with their upper management and understand where they're coming from now. They seem to feel it's the only way to attract younger buyers that will help grow the brands.
@@PRNTestDrive I was 31 when I bought the LS430, so Lexus management is high on something because they are losing their loyal fans. If I ever plan on upgrading my LS, it will probably be a newer S550. Liking a classy design has nothing to do to age. You can 20 and appreciate classy things. How many so called young people can afford a brand new LS500? Not many.
Great points. The S-Class is definitely a solid looking car, not overly aggressive yet undoubtedly Mercedes.
They fix whatever problems they were having from 07 to 10...11 and 12 were better
2024 and I'm looking at one of these with 85k miles. Sooo tempting 😅
They're awesome cars to own! Finding one is the hard part, no one wants to let go of them.
Can confirm. Both of my parents have/ had this exact car. My Dad still has it but doesn’t drive it often. Great vehicle.
Is it also an Ultra Luxury? We did read some complaints from owners during our research that the keyless entry/smart key can cause the battery to drain on the car if it isn't used often. Hopefully that isn't an issue for theirs!
PRN_TestDrive
I was mistaken, one was an ultra luxury. I called my parents to double check lol. Not a single issue to report so I guess my dad lucked out
Glad to hear it!
By using harder plastic materials on the dashboard would prevent cracks after 10 plus years export to the sun heat cold elements
That's a great point. The dash on this was in great shape, and I imagine it'll hold up well over the next 10 years also.
"Exposed"
i put nearly 350,000 miles on mine virtually trouble free. the only actual unscheduled maintenance was an alternator around 100k, and front wheel bearings near 200k, and obviously brakes. over 300k it was ready for a full suspension overhaul. if i can find a low mileage ultimate i may get another one.
That's really good! Regular maintenance is definitely key in keeping these cars on the road.
@@PRNTestDrive i should also mention with mobil 1 extended life oil and a purolator pureone/boss, i was going nearly 40k between oil changes
Did you need a press for the wheel bearing?
I have the 2005 Luxury (not ultra). CD players and everything works but the radar/sonar. Some of these go for as little as 5k. Crazy!
That was one of the small problems on this also, one of the parking sensors needed to be replaced. It was something we had to do on our 2001 BMW 740iL, usually it's a straightforward replacement.
In it's time this was the best Luxury flagship vehicle out there. Incredible design, quality and reliability, unlike the German competitors that had questionable reliability.
Even by today's standards the car still holds it's own! Really impressive luxury and tech for a 15 year old car.
Someone traded "Jazzy" in after only two years... I still wonder to this day what the hell they were thinking!
2005 Lexus LS 430 sport suspension package :)
If you get your hands on one of these now it's best to hold onto it. They're becoming harder to find now.
A great review if a great car. I have owned a 1984 LS400 for twelve years and a 2005 LS430 for five years. The LS400 was great for it's time but the LS430 is a timely car that is meant to be driven.
Two things I need to point out about your review. There are not many of the LS430s with the Executive Package that the car you showed in the video. The package was a very expensive option at around $10,000 USD. The package included the rear reclining seat along with all of the controls.
The second thing that was very obvious is that the steering wheel was replaced at some point. Its obvious by the different wood. The wheel should match the rest if the trim.
Thanks for the review.
Glad you liked it, thanks!
Steering wheel is the original one. These are facelift ls with ultra luxury package in NA, mine got the exact same bell and whistle with the exact same leather color and steering wheel wood on my 05ul. All other ul I’ve seen have this type of steering wheel wood, so it is either original or Toyota made a recall at some point
Love my 2004! 6 years of wonderful, reliable, cozy ownership. At 215,000 miles runs so smooth!
Can't go wrong with that! Hopefully you get a lot more driving out of it.
It’s funny people talk about the early 2000s like it was in the Stone Age
Feels like it sometimes. For me the year 2000 is further away now than it was when I was born.
OMG thank you for reviewing this car!!!
Thank you for checking it out! We've had it on our list for a little while now and we're lucky we have contacts in the Toronto press circuit that hold onto awesome cars like this!
My 22.5 yo LS400 has been my daily driver for more than 20 years. I will never part with it. Yes, I've looked at all succeeding models including the LS500. In my view, Lexus seems to have lost its way. My company used to provide me with new MBs. Despite perfect maintenance, they were very unreliable...pleasant to drive but trouble-prone. I sold the company...bought the Lexus. Incidentally, I was very disappointed by Lexus dealer service. Much of the information they gave me and which I heard them give to other customers was entirely wrong. Some of the maintenance work done on my car wasn't done correctly. So if you don't know a good deal about the car, I would strongly urge the use of a good, high-quality shop with an excellent reputation in your community for all non-warranty work. You will need VERY few repairs over the decades anyhow.
I have a 2018 but it doesn't compare to my Father's 2008 in terms of smoothness of ride and interior space.
The older Lexus models still hold up well, there's no doubt!
I have a 2006 for sale. Black on black 137k miles.
BEAA-utiful
I have a 2001 Celsior, (the Japanese model) 94K has all the same options,... but a lot more wood, the rear-view mirror and centre instrument frame , and also rear seat massage, which I don't see there
Very interesting that they’d omit those features on the US Models, perhaps Toyota felt they could sell the LS without any loss of sales without those features for this market.
@@PRNTestDrive but no massage for the driver in my JDM, just the back seats.. guess the driver isn't important haha
It's crazy that this vehicle was made nearly 20 years ago and is still looks great. I seen a couple of these on the road. And they still look like something that could have been made today
Agreed! I don't spot these too often but they definitely turn heads.
You can't beat em. Best car money can buy today. Still.
Agreed! Price on these is still strong considering its age too.
The S class showcases the technology the LS430 perfect it and make it reliable.
Well said!