£1,000 S-Class v 7 Series v Lexus LS - the best cheap car?

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    If you wanted a luxury car without the luxury price tag, you’d probably consider buying a used car... But how about a used car that’s 20 years old!?
    Well, Mat’s got his hands on a Mercedes S-Class, a BMW 7 Series and a Lexus LS all from the early 2000s to see if opting for a classic limo is worth it. Oh, and he’s going to launch them, of course!!
    First up is the Mercedes S320. Back in 2001 it would have cost £51,000 but we bought it today for just £1,800. It’s got a 3.2-litre straight-six turbodiesel engine that produces 197hp & 470Nm.
    Then there’s the Lexus LS430. It would’ve cost £54,000 when new, but we got it for £2,000. The Lexus packs more power than the S-Class, coming with a 4.3-litre V8 petrol engine that delivers 281hp & 417Nm.
    Finally we’ve got the BMW 735i. In 2002 this would’ve set you back £53,000, but today it cost us just £1,400. This 735i has a 3.6-litre V8 petrol engine putting down 272hp & 360Nm.
    So, which of these old limos will be Mat’s favourite? Keep watching find out!
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  • @carwow
    @carwow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +938

    So, which of these old limos would you go for? VOTE below!

    • @carwow
      @carwow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1529

      VOTE: Mercedes S320

    • @carwow
      @carwow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2426

      VOTE: Lexus LS430

    • @carwow
      @carwow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +897

      VOTE: BMW 735i

    • @Sakaido47
      @Sakaido47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      First?

    • @johnwayne6471
      @johnwayne6471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      LEXUS 100% BULLETPROOF ENGINE!!

  • @krizzzy
    @krizzzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5513

    I hope this become a regular series. Reminds me a lot of the old Top Gear cheap car challenges!

  • @naderharb3889
    @naderharb3889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    Mat just needs to find 2 more people like him and start the sequel Top Gear deserves. The first couple of minutes were very nostalgic to top gear

  • @zakmoh5808
    @zakmoh5808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    After owning the Merc S320 and the LS430, I have realised how good the Lexus is. Everything just works.

    • @blackjack7581
      @blackjack7581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Technology can't break when its not there in the first place lmao

    • @realkilju
      @realkilju ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@blackjack7581 true lol but its a good thing

    • @trdturbois3005
      @trdturbois3005 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@blackjack7581 how many German vehicles are coming with Adaptive radar cruise, Oscillating vents, truly luxurious seats, heated/cooled front & rear seats, massaging seats (that work), fridge, an actual responsive & reliable touch screen infotainment, filters for almost every seat, a timeless look, a reliable air suspension system that is also not too expensive to repair/replace, an actually reliable car and not to mention a secret compartment for a small pdw?
      Some of this (design/look) can be opinion based and subjective, but come on lol let's be very honest here
      The Lexus got the most features, a decent price, and 10x more reliable than any German luxury sedan from this era. I would hands down take a long trip in the ls430 any day instead of the other vehicles.

    • @posadist681
      @posadist681 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@trdturbois3005 Wish the lexus was better to look at but I dont look that great either so its a perfect match for me 😂

    • @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
      @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I saw a 2000s Lexus LS430 in my neighbourhood, and it is really clean, exterior and interior wise, and it works very well.

  • @metalcorpse6427
    @metalcorpse6427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I currently own an LS430. Hands down best car ever made. Incredibly smooth, very reliable even parts are easy and cheap to replace. It's a gem.

    • @jeremiahtjaimi9596
      @jeremiahtjaimi9596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want a proper nice car I have 1100 pound cash it must be lexux or Mercedes plz

    • @joeschmo4170
      @joeschmo4170 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Merc? Don't.
      Five years w two ls430s. Not a single penny. Still have still love

  • @saptorshimukherjee8532
    @saptorshimukherjee8532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1125

    I want to see mat do a review of the Lexus LFA.... Carwow please make it happen 🙏

    • @abnfalcon3901
      @abnfalcon3901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Yeah but the thing is they are super rare, only 500 of them were ever made and worth millions of dollars in these days.

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He has done this before when he used to work for Auto Express.
      But yes, I wouldn't mind seeing Matt reunite with the Lexus LFA.
      Matt reviewing the LFA back in 2010: th-cam.com/video/pDYGdmNFxIo/w-d-xo.html

    • @bebechu8421
      @bebechu8421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, thats a must !!

    • @aabidamn
      @aabidamn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@abnfalcon3901 If Mat can get his hand on the Enzo, Nevera, Chirron, etc I reckon can get his hand on the LFA. He could also ask Yianni and Nabil for help. I bet they personally know an LFA owner in the UK.

    • @lexuslfa4739
      @lexuslfa4739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aabidamn LFA owners are not snobby showy people so probably have to go to the gentleman's club for that

  • @deenel
    @deenel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    More used car videos like this please! Maybe one with an old Volvo S80? New cars are so expensive these days I'm leaning towards used

    • @stopsallmelb
      @stopsallmelb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure what market you're in, but new cars are generally the same as used, as used are available right now where new cars you're waiting 1-2 years

    • @GolBDeze
      @GolBDeze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would wanna see Audi, BMW, Merc 2008 model years battle eachother.

    • @shanginadildo
      @shanginadildo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@stopsallmelb u wot M8?

    • @yungboicontigo9278
      @yungboicontigo9278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Used cars are just as expensive then new car my guy

    • @stopsallmelb
      @stopsallmelb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shanginadildo you dont understand the current car market

  • @_C_E_C_
    @_C_E_C_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This video shows more about the previous owner(s) than the cars itself.
    But its a real-world scenario, and gives you an idea of what to expect for that price range
    Great!

    • @Early2000sPs2games
      @Early2000sPs2games 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They trashed it, spent 2k and I could get a mint condition merc

  • @testagiuseppeable
    @testagiuseppeable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My father had the s320 cdi, I remember that lovely rattle coming from the engine.. It was the most comfortable car in which I have ever traveled. We pushed it up to a speed of 230 km/h and it was still confy and silent

  • @ArkitektoHardinero
    @ArkitektoHardinero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    I go for LS430. But I must say the 7 still looks stunning. I always thought it looks unique (a bit odd) and I like it. The design is ahead of its time. Can't believe it's 20 years old!

    • @michaelforster5379
      @michaelforster5379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Now we truly see Chris Bangle's genius:))

    • @tomhill3907
      @tomhill3907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Love the bangle era, it’s aged so well and looks miles better than the china pleasing shit of today…

    • @hoodrixhveeze1717
      @hoodrixhveeze1717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That and the 2004 Acura TL

    • @burperking2788
      @burperking2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      these will be modern classics, the ones that live. we'll just be old :) i always loved the bagle design myself.

    • @RB_750GS
      @RB_750GS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not being funny though that 7 series was definitely owned by a drug dealer the state of it.

  • @scientist6790
    @scientist6790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    Can we petition Mat to do more used car group tests?
    It's all well and good comparing new cars, but I'm sure the majority of us buy cars that are 3 years and older.
    Regardless of what he review's it's all great content.

    • @ConstantinSPurcea
      @ConstantinSPurcea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no need to petition; if more people watch this content they'll make more of it. It's how TH-camrs work. Thing is, most people like to watch cars they can't afford go head-to-head so this will always be a niche.

    • @simoneamadi9865
      @simoneamadi9865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bro, in my country we buy 8 year old from Japan as new cars

    • @sanveerkhanuja3249
      @sanveerkhanuja3249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@simoneamadi9865 reliability

    • @nickcartwright2490
      @nickcartwright2490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      20 years ago I bought my house for around 50000 pounds. It is now worth quite a lot more than 1000 pounds.

    • @sanveerkhanuja3249
      @sanveerkhanuja3249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nickcartwright2490 but land value never diminishes so it would be around more than 100000 pounds

  • @sean6908
    @sean6908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love this type of content - really cool seeing reviews for these older used cars!

  • @MrTimeless101
    @MrTimeless101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think its important to point out that when you see cars like these in such bad condition, after many years on the road, its not the manufacturer to blame, its the owner(s). Keep up with the maintenance and the car will stay good as new.

  • @OdysseyTag
    @OdysseyTag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    So crazy how modern the 7 still looks on the inside and outside compared to the other two.

    • @michaelforster5379
      @michaelforster5379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Chris Bangle is a genius, we see it now:))

    • @r35spectgt-r84
      @r35spectgt-r84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Looks worse than the other two

    • @ataipacquiao5713
      @ataipacquiao5713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@r35spectgt-r84 no. Much modern

    • @Candra_mvlog
      @Candra_mvlog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@r35spectgt-r84 nope, 7series is the most modern compared to the other two. The merc looks so outdated, meanwhile Lexus’s design looks like it comes from 90’s

    • @Candra_mvlog
      @Candra_mvlog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@r35spectgt-r84 nope, 7series is the most modern compared to the other two. The merc looks so outdated, meanwhile Lexus’s design looks like it comes from 90’s

  • @Skyborn-
    @Skyborn- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The biggest difference between the 3 older cars is how much in repair costs were spent over the last 20 years. The Lexus owner used tape on his mirror, this suggest he spent no money on repairs.

  • @VulcanGT
    @VulcanGT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So this is where that re-upload is from

  • @silvervalver
    @silvervalver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I had a similar age e class with that engine. The thing I quite liked about it was the lag. The similarity with the e class probably makes the merc the best option of the three really as at least you stand some chance of getting parts

  • @hafizsyed7304
    @hafizsyed7304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    I owned a Lexus LS400 and that was the most comfortable and most technologically advanced car even 15 years after it’s built date..most new cars at that time didn’t have specs and features it had. Loved it.. and used to leave so many other,sportier cars in dust at traffic lights in power mode..

    • @muhammedq9109
      @muhammedq9109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I had 3 ls400s stanced out on coilovers and it handled better than my new infiniti

    • @TriGgaPenG
      @TriGgaPenG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same with the BM I had that and miss it still, like Matt says it looks modern and was ahead of its time. Mercs back then we're disgusting still are now 🤣 love the new lexus though wow

    • @aabidamn
      @aabidamn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TriGgaPenG You love the look of new Lexus? Do you not see the car on their grilles?

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The engine in the Lexus sounds lovely - as Mat admitted. Just needs a new rad. and good for more years I am sure.

    • @shlomy2010
      @shlomy2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      LS400s are the best

  • @kiwicanukable
    @kiwicanukable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Another version of this with the E Class, 5 Series and GS would be interesting too

    • @805NAVE
      @805NAVE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      GS is king

    • @KING-bb2nq
      @KING-bb2nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      E60 5series vs w211 e
      Everyone would like to see

    • @sssaaa9043
      @sssaaa9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      e class is to good, the other 2 wouldn't stand a chance

    • @meissnerflux
      @meissnerflux ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes . The GS/5/E are much more drivers' cars than the 7/LS/S

    • @burtonfzz
      @burtonfzz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      gs450H is a great car for sure

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This could be a fun regular series. Nice video. From when i was younger to now I still like the design of the 7 Series the most. Keep up the good work.

  • @JustOneMoreWatch
    @JustOneMoreWatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Lexus for me, thanks. I bought the best one I could find two years ago, have done all the major preventative maintenance on it, and am settling into the next decade of budget luxury motoring. Oh, and everything works.

    • @ecb116
      @ecb116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hellooooo Jody!

    • @BoycottChinaa
      @BoycottChinaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you seem gayish in an overpriced camry.. sad!

    • @uniqu3xperience965
      @uniqu3xperience965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So predictable Jody 🙄 in Australia they drive those land cruisers a lot but that is too big mud master g shock for you you are more of casio oceanus lol 😆

    • @MRFUCKOFF202
      @MRFUCKOFF202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just one more car!

  • @joem8213
    @joem8213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    The lexus ls430 would be the one for me! One of the most reliable V8 engines in the world. Although i would prefer the lexus ls400, so much cooler looking!

    • @stickshift13
      @stickshift13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i'd spend a bit more and get the ls600! with a bit modern and better lookin design

    • @besouniveirs.1643
      @besouniveirs.1643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Get a restyling LS430 and you're set for life. Matt was showing the pre-restyle version and Lexus made over a thousand changes in the 2004 version. The V8 is amazing, but as I mentioned in a comment above, extra cooling for the LPG conversion is a must as I had to do a complete overhaul after 60k km on LPG due to cylinder overheating.

    • @tropicalstorm339
      @tropicalstorm339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stickshift13 There was an LS600?

    • @stickshift13
      @stickshift13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tropicalstorm339 yes it was a hybrid i think the first lexus hybrid

    • @tropicalstorm339
      @tropicalstorm339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stickshift13 Ok. That was the LS600h with a 5 liter V8 and electric motor. The RX400h was the first Lexus hybrid (2004 model year).

  • @shakers4u
    @shakers4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Matt in second hand cars, I love it! More please CarWow.

    • @juliencedric3633
      @juliencedric3633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes please 🙏

    • @VNCTHE1
      @VNCTHE1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More like 8th hand

  • @09NXN06
    @09NXN06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My favorite car brands full side sedans love all three however I'd put my money on the LS430 with less worries.

  • @edvardgarabedian200
    @edvardgarabedian200 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love my 2004 LS430. Great V8 fast for 300hp. Unfortunately, I crashed into a median while doing a sorta fast turn and the bumper and front left wheel axle got screwed up. Thank god it did not get totaled however. And because this car, like the others you showed are old and outdated despite not being too old, it was soooo hard for the mechanic to find a pearl white bumper for the car but we got it.

  • @MrFryer10
    @MrFryer10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I love my ls430. Definitely isn’t a sports car and handling isn’t its goal. Drives so nice on the highway

    • @besouniveirs.1643
      @besouniveirs.1643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gosh I wish the brakes were better - it feels so bad and I know people put the brakes from Cayenne to get it more responsive. Pad changes help in the first 1k after the change. After that they feel nonexistent. Mine is also getting a tonne of rust over the years, it's easier to find new doors than getting them fixed at this point.

  • @Traxxmaciek
    @Traxxmaciek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I would definitely go for the Lexus. It basically won everything except for the looks. And Mat saying that it’s unreliable is just wrong. When you’re in a 20y/o car you don’t look at small details, you look at the bigger picture

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Agree. The Lexus needs a new radiator but other than it looks pretty good. Engine sounds lovely. The other two are showing warning/error lights, plus the Merc is rusty and BMWs interior has bits falling off and flaking paint. Despite being neglected I would bet the Lexus will be the last one standing down the line.

    • @bubberlad
      @bubberlad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      whatever the merits of being slightly more reliable, they will most certainly be outweighed by the more expensive parts and the far, far worse fuel economy.

    • @Traxxmaciek
      @Traxxmaciek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@bubberlad worse fuel economy comes with better performance.
      Just buy a clapped out diesel golf then. Good fuel economy, cheap part and boring AF

    • @nikolagnjatic211
      @nikolagnjatic211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jdmguy44 the mercedes has an bulletproof diesel engine so i disagree.

    • @christohees9150
      @christohees9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nikolagnjatic211 yap those diesel engines are very good even bmw 30d engines are very good my brother owns a e60 530d with 310000km on the clock and it's still going strong

  • @nathanaelnyabani6665
    @nathanaelnyabani6665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really liked this episode you did here
    You should do more like these more often 🤠

  • @micahlewis8775
    @micahlewis8775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    OMG, Mat, this could be a series. You don't have to upload videos for it everyday but I would love to see older versions of cars like these

    • @mihailhidler5400
      @mihailhidler5400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love the way he unnecessarily hit the cats, very entertaining

  • @ab-15188
    @ab-15188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    This is going to be me in 20 years buying cars that I can't afford during my adulthood

    • @lethalhype1931
      @lethalhype1931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was once you! Now I daily my poster car - a W215 CL 500 Mercedes I bought for 3 grand. Only will these cars u see cheap now be gone by then and either collectibles or long salvaged but u can probably afford a 2016 S Class then 😂

    • @ab-15188
      @ab-15188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lethalhype1931 faxx 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ttppro1985
    @ttppro1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The BMW kept its design modern for 20 years, still looks good

    • @guycha0s380
      @guycha0s380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I disagree mate

    • @malikemad4
      @malikemad4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks like a depressed obese fish

    • @TFSIChristmas
      @TFSIChristmas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cannot disagree there.

    • @ibrahimbashir6634
      @ibrahimbashir6634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep 🔥

    • @damnbadger8242
      @damnbadger8242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only everything breaks off in the interior :-D

  • @SilverSurfer5150
    @SilverSurfer5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like Matt doing these kinds of tests more than the regular stuff tbh!! More, please!

  • @Yannick13C
    @Yannick13C 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More like this please! New cars are nice, but now and then a throwback to older cars is also nice to see.

  • @MrHushCrush
    @MrHushCrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    3:58 The BMW sold it’s Kidney itself to maintain itself 🤣🤣

  • @geoffbob6267
    @geoffbob6267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be fair, the s430 or s500 would've been a more fair comparison, as those have more options that the base s320s

    • @jakobsal2075
      @jakobsal2075 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, I also would’ve preferred the E300td. They inadvertently glorified the Lexus In using an Ultra luxury model for this presentation

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If anybody watching this is seriously considering one of these 3 cars go for the Lexus LS430 but get the updated model from 2004 onwards. It'll cost you £5k for one in good condition that's been cared for but it'll last you another 20 years if need be. The 2004 update focused on fixing every known problem and complaint of the 2001-2003 models, plus it included a whole bunch of new tech upgrades that came out after 2001, the 300hp engine stays the same but they changed the transmission to a 6 speed which is silky smooth and with just that an new engine mapping it went from doing 6.4s 0-100 to 5.9s 0-100.

  • @tylansmith1345
    @tylansmith1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The LS430 was my first car and I absolutely loved it!! It has 280,000 Miles on it when I finally got rid of it. Fantastic vehicle and that 4.3 is bulletproof

  • @automotivetv9861
    @automotivetv9861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The Ls430 needs about $350 of mechanical work but will be reliable for the next 10 years afterwards. I would choose it.

    • @tobiasmccallum9697
      @tobiasmccallum9697 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because its the cheapest?

    • @johannes1498
      @johannes1498 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no it is the best simply@@tobiasmccallum9697

  • @betterbeavailable
    @betterbeavailable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like these older car goof-arounds. You should do more of these.

  • @TripSaddie
    @TripSaddie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought an 04 Lexus and every problem you described I have/had (currently a project) but not as expensive as you’d think if your doing the work yourself 😅… that starter job is crazy but I have no regrets!

  • @bonzobonanza
    @bonzobonanza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    As much as I love the German brands, I'm going with the Lexus. A comfy, smooth, and reliable car for the money.

    • @jarrack47
      @jarrack47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Looks like a carbon copy of the S-Class

    • @lilpold9192
      @lilpold9192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Asian cars are utter garbage

    • @ergyshotaj924
      @ergyshotaj924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The lexus is the copy/paste of the s-class of the 90's...

    • @iLeetjeeh
      @iLeetjeeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@lilpold9192 what? They are considered to be the most reliable cars

    • @ukimenustah7932
      @ukimenustah7932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@lilpold9192 that's just not true at all

  • @kcweiberg3731
    @kcweiberg3731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That 4.3 in the lexus is so smooth and SCREAMS at high rpm

  • @Al0011235813
    @Al0011235813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, really informative. The diesel gets double the MPG but is only about 1 second slower to 60, so it clearly makes sense to get a diesel limo. How much would fixing all the faults actually cost? It might be worth paying more for a model in better condition, I’m guessing. If I were buying these things, I would budget 5000 pounds for the actual cost.

  • @Soussmeboules
    @Soussmeboules 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 14 years old Lexus GS460 and it has no reliability problem at all. This 4.6 L V8 is cheaper to maintain than any existing German V8, and I live in Germany.
    The only thing changed in the engine is the water pump. The rest of maintenance is only yearly oil change, break pads, and soon to be done 2 front dampers. The car runs and runs and runs.
    The condition of my car is obviously way better than these 3, but it’s actual value is way over 1.000 £, it is more around 15.000 €.
    Even for these 3 cars, I doubt you could find it so cheap in Germany. It would be maybe more around 3, 4 or 5.000 €.

  • @12jamiegavin12
    @12jamiegavin12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I had a 1999 ls400 which cost me £800. Granted it needed that spent again sorting the suspension but it was a brilliant car! Only 160k on it which in LS terms is barely run in and everything worked. Felt as smooth as I'd imagine it would have from the factory. Miss that car 😢

  • @byteme13456874
    @byteme13456874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Hard to beat the s class suspension. Also once the facelift hit in 03 and AMG got their hands on it, no large sedan from bmw or lexus from that time could even come close to touching it in terms of performance. Even today a s55 from 03 and up is still an impressive car with the m113k engine.

    • @torbenanschau6641
      @torbenanschau6641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The 760 and the S8 could.

    • @byteme13456874
      @byteme13456874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@torbenanschau6641 I dont think the s8 would pose any challenge, 2003 had 360hp…. 2003 760 li is certainly closer at 438, but also 500 lbs heavier. The s55 is at 493hp and 516 torque down LOW at 2100. S55 has crazy long gears too.

    • @procerus3654
      @procerus3654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      screw these top of the line versions, 320 cdi is just fine for today's roads, both performance and economy wise

    • @mowocsgo998
      @mowocsgo998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe compare S55 to B7 from Alpina

  • @smothdude
    @smothdude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd be really interested in a similar test where you control the tyres, since I feel like different tyres make a huge impact. Might be why the BMW sucked at braking/launching? Not necessarily changing the alloys, but at least a newer tyre

    • @EdwardM104
      @EdwardM104 ปีที่แล้ว

      100%, only fair test is new tires (preferably the same tire for each vehicle) and new brakes.

  • @anomuumit
    @anomuumit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    That Mercedes straight six diesel is economical (for its class) and a potential powerhouse for tuning. Upgrade the turbo, fuelling, software and such and you are looking at over 300 hp with far better fuel economy than the petrol versions.

    • @anderaguinaga2606
      @anderaguinaga2606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Better buy the 400cdi, V8 Biturbo 250cv and 500nm

    • @anomuumit
      @anomuumit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @danturbo316 Power is a function of torque and rpms, so what you are referring as a lot of torque is better phrased as having more power in the lower rpms. But it is indeed correct that usually turbo diesel engines have more torque than the petrol ones.

    • @alfamonk
      @alfamonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Upgrade the turbo, fuelling, software and such" or you could use the money to buy a far better new car!

    • @lexuslfa4739
      @lexuslfa4739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you realize the amount of money you would spend bringing the car up to the power level of the competition is times more than what you would spend on fuel on the V8s

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Latest 730D is great for economy

  • @r390gt1lm
    @r390gt1lm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    finally a real life cars that we all can relate to. Do more of these!

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 2002 S500 for £1200 4 years ago and absolutely love it. I service it myself and haven't had any major issues, the only challenge is lifting it with home kit, it's very very heavy and I'd rather not go under it at home.

  • @bnadem.panormal
    @bnadem.panormal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Hearing aid beige" is the most creative color name, I loled at that

  • @gwilko6452
    @gwilko6452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Had a Ls430 last year. Excellent vehicle for the weekly golf club run. Bought it 4k and sold it for 5600k a year later. Highly recommended

    • @icedareaper
      @icedareaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ain’t no way you sold the car for $5600000

    • @steven5509
      @steven5509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@icedareaper he probably meant 5600 and because buying overpriced cars because of this current economy is the e new norm

    • @CJacuzzi
      @CJacuzzi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe I'm just a cheapskate but $5.6 million for a LS430 seems steep. Nice residuals though

  • @robinjohnhill7556
    @robinjohnhill7556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More of these type of videos please, it's good to see comparisons of the older cars for a change.

  • @MrPhymed
    @MrPhymed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The S class is not as unreliable as people think. I have it for over 7 years now and it runs like a charm. Easy and cheap to self repair. Extremely comfortable and not thirsty at all!
    I’ve also had the LS430 before. I liked a lot but it is no where near the comfort of the S-class, especially when the S class has adaptive cruise control!

  • @insiderepublic8066
    @insiderepublic8066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lexus for me. I own a smaller brother GS and it's fantastic.

  • @MMM18092
    @MMM18092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Matt's sense of humour shines in this type of video. More please!

  • @juliencedric3633
    @juliencedric3633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    was a pleasure to watch ♡ very well done :D
    please do more used cars comparisons 🙏

  • @Ma1efcent
    @Ma1efcent 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had my '04 LS430 for 8 years, - never missed a beat, drives like an absolute dream. Pure luxury for peanut money, - best car I've ever had.

  • @sageyowns26
    @sageyowns26 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love the wood in the Lexus but “hearing aid beige” is hilarious 😂

  • @dragosdinescu2702
    @dragosdinescu2702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Do more videos like this, it's very entertaining and it reminds me of the old top gear episodes. Keep it up! 😁

  • @MurderSTi
    @MurderSTi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Of all these I'd have the Lexus. We had the previous gen 7 series, which was beautiful, we had that generation LS, and the Latter generation S class growing up. The Lexus wasn't as quick or fun, but it was shockingly quiet and reliable. As a teenager I took many naps in the back seat on roadtrips of a LS430. Side note my daily is a G11 BMW 750 m sport.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah the Lexus murders the other cars long term aka has solid value.

  • @zackkirk6514
    @zackkirk6514 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg when he hit the cars with that bat, i was cringing & screaming in my head "STOP PLEASE!!!" 🤣🤣

  • @Mexicanfab
    @Mexicanfab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    W220 Sclass is head and shoulders the best. Wish it was the 5L V8 facelift model that was tested, as it wouldn’t have the rust, interior and infotainment is way better, and I obviously would be faster. But still. Great video 👌🏼

  • @ethanjamesknox411
    @ethanjamesknox411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’ve always wanted to see a video like this! Thanks so much! Love the channel

    • @MotorsByHG
      @MotorsByHG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/rDdkqzJzxww/w-d-xo.html

  • @nafinafih88
    @nafinafih88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The LS is such adorable and valued car in the Emirates, Even people with Range Rover drives LS as Daily Driver

    • @lilpold9192
      @lilpold9192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ugly ass car imo

    • @anirudhshukla8224
      @anirudhshukla8224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah actually

    • @Olympiann
      @Olympiann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lilpold9192 check out the facelift models 04-06

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lilpold9192 the facelifted version is far from ugly

  • @podumalesela5948
    @podumalesela5948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video hope you will do more of these kinda videos

  • @mattm3887
    @mattm3887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you do more of these 👌

  • @hassamzahid3961
    @hassamzahid3961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that V8 in lexus is one of the best V8s ever produced very underrated

  • @AMV12S
    @AMV12S 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    1:30 Well Mat, compared to modern BMWs with that horrendous grill, this 7 series is kinda cute 😅😅

  • @suicideghostftp
    @suicideghostftp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wood in the interior is dope, not this light one but some dark or grey wood is awesome

  • @Abz1324
    @Abz1324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here in the Middle East with the harsher climates, you’ll find loads of 25+ year old Lexus LS430’s on the road driving daily. You will very rarely spot a 25 year old S class or BMW. That says all you need to know about build quality.

  • @UpsideDownFork
    @UpsideDownFork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Definitely the correct choice Matt. Have run a 2005 S320 CDI for nearly 11 years.
    The facelift ones were a big improvement in many of the areas that you noted, such as infotainment, no rust etc. As a bonus the facelifted diesel got more power and a more responsive auto gearbox.
    Get a long wheelbase with all the options. Treat it well and it will take care of you. A great car for an experienced DIY mechanic. Easy to work on and will save yourself thousands by doing so.

    • @luqmanhaider14
      @luqmanhaider14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct.w220 if more elegant and comfy compared to other two. If you can do DIYs then its a very good choice easy to work on it.
      CDI is very economical but very fragile also. Low grade diesel ruins this engine very quickly. M112 v6 is good option. Its simple SOHC engine. Not so economical but bulletproof engine.

    • @UpsideDownFork
      @UpsideDownFork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@luqmanhaider14 CDI engines - early OM613 and later OM648 are both bullet proof engines when used with the fuel we have in the UK.
      I've seen one go to 700,000 miles without being opened up, just regular oil changes.

    • @fasterbiggerstronger5911
      @fasterbiggerstronger5911 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought s320 from 2005 and rust was everywhere so they didn't sort rust problem. Only front mask is aluminium rest is Chinese piece of rusty shit

    • @UpsideDownFork
      @UpsideDownFork ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fasterbiggerstronger5911 nah, that's rubbish. Been dealing in these for years here in the UK. Had 30 or more W220 that we've owned.
      2004 and 2005 cars do not rust here in the UK, unless they've been badly crash repaired.

  • @saifsultan6299
    @saifsultan6299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lexus LS430 is a legend...best LS ever

  • @antooz123
    @antooz123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    mercedes since already got one. also 320 cdi. Never had any mechanical issues, only had to replace bushings and ball joints.

  • @7quidstudio
    @7quidstudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please Matt more of these!! Older affordable cars for us norms 😃👍

  • @trenton.tchannel1810
    @trenton.tchannel1810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The LS430 is the best and most reliable. Still hold its value the best to. See plenty of S class with failed air suspension and in the US we don’t get diesel S-classes. I’ve seen many 7 series with blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. I’ve never seen a LS430 in bad of shape as the one in this video. Even the ones You find online with 200k miles still are in way better shape than the one in the video

  • @soawn29
    @soawn29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The lci version of that bmw 7 series looks pretty good, much modern

  • @albertogaliana9236
    @albertogaliana9236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Merc S320 CDI is actually on Limp-Home Mode, since EPC failure is shown on the digital display inside the speedometer, which is why barely no output shall be delivered when trying to perform a kickdown :)

  • @TheRageddavid
    @TheRageddavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve owned all three of these
    The Lexus is the most reliable by far and everything works inside. The other two look better and probably drive slightly better, but if you’re buying a car if this age and want years and miles of very few issues, get the Lexus

  • @FemiShonubi
    @FemiShonubi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The headrest in the rear of the BMW 7 series went up "on its own" because it sensed the seat is occupied. It will recess back once the seat becomes vacant. BMWs have always had advanced tech compared to the others. Albeit a pain to maintain, something ALWAYS breaks

    • @forzer45
      @forzer45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The w220 s-class does the same

    • @floro7130
      @floro7130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol ....Lancia do the same10 years earlier

  • @_-Anthony-_
    @_-Anthony-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd love to keep seeing the side by side stats of vehicles and for example in the performance tests. Seems like not a whole lot of effort for something that makes the videos so much more enjoyable and so much more professional. Cheers :)

  • @Sanyey
    @Sanyey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    U forgot about the Omega b2 (2001-2003). Has literally every single extra from the era (folding/electric/heated mirrors, color navigation, 6cd changer with Bose sound system, electric interior mirror+memo leather seats with heating, asr, esp, abs, million airbags, car telephone, opel OnStar assistance, rear leather seat heating, rear air suspension, speed dependent steering assistance, standby heater (eberspacher), ventilated disc brakes front and rear, hydro bushings in the front suspensions and under the engine, 5 speed automatic gearbox for the inline 6 BMW cr diesel in the front (that one is a marvel by it self for how much futuristic shit was going on in the engine bay back then). All in all, apart from early rusting issues, a ton of them are still around , and that can mean only one thing: they were sturdy, long lasting cars.

  • @lachlanbrown409
    @lachlanbrown409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BMW fanboy...but in 2022 LS430. I can do my own oil, spark plug and air filter changes. Just leaves wear and tear items which you can economise on if you're savvy. Michelin tyres seem to last a long time if you keep an eye on air pressures. Mobile mechanic.can do brakes.

  • @irvinzwane4651
    @irvinzwane4651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love this... can we see more of such please🙌❤🔥

  • @ConstantinSPurcea
    @ConstantinSPurcea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Curious how easy it would be to fix the Lexus and get it running reliably vs the others. I own a 2000 LS400 and have put 20k miles on it over the 2 years Ive had it and never had a single issue with the drivetrain. Had a few issues with wheel bearings, brakes, exhaust and some electronics but the car always ran no problem. And even when I had a bad bearing it still ran just fine. Even when I had warped rotors it braked just fine. Some of the bushings went and I had to change them; they were the cause of some vibrations especially when braking.

    • @rpgPalette
      @rpgPalette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Lexus is cheap to fix and reliable to run, especially drivetrain. Also used toyota/lexus cars depreciate less, so that means that the £1000 LS wasn't taken care of (especially looking at the tape on the mirrors), that means you have to find LS for £2000-£3000 or fix all the issues for the same price and car will run another 5-10 years without problems. If the radiator is leaking after 15 years and 150k miles, it means that if you change it, the new one will run another 15 years.

    • @edgar6051
      @edgar6051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@rpgPalette too bad it looks like a depressed frog/fish

    • @questionableprojects
      @questionableprojects 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The lexus is defiantly an easy and cheap car to work on!! I rallycross a ls400 and gs300 haha. They hold up so damn well. Got a couple vids on my channel if you're curious! Haha have a great day

    • @betterbeavailable
      @betterbeavailable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lexus is overrated junk. Just deal with it.

    • @questionableprojects
      @questionableprojects 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@betterbeavailable lol yeah ok buddy...

  • @cristiduminica4131
    @cristiduminica4131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was quite a ride , liked the video , thumbs up

  • @hakanakar9141
    @hakanakar9141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do an other episode featuring an audi a8, a volvo s80 and a Volkswagen phaeton , would be interesting too

  • @loveluvfl98
    @loveluvfl98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'll take the Lexus any day,reliability and comfort for me..

  • @harryronald9986
    @harryronald9986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had a Lexus GS300 for a month. V comfy car for how ancient it was

  • @kriskalpa6346
    @kriskalpa6346 ปีที่แล้ว

    love these old classic challenges

  • @aryanchoudhary2057
    @aryanchoudhary2057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:21 that looked like a lightsaber. A red one!

  • @timhebert2299
    @timhebert2299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hahaha I love these videos. So comical. Out of everyone who does cars reviews, no one does it better than Matt!!!

  • @tonyroni8305
    @tonyroni8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My ex actually had her grandmothers Lexus ls430 givin to her as a gift. About 160k miles and ran like a dream. That v8 is such a nice sounding engine. Only thing was the cat converter was cooked so when you floored it .. smelled like someone shat out eggs

  • @mohammadayub2760
    @mohammadayub2760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would buy the lexsas all day ❤️❤️❤️

  • @captainsidewinder
    @captainsidewinder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I drive a 94 ls400 with 1,100,000 miles on it and drives like it’s brand new every switch still works and drives just as good as my wife’s brand new 9g tronic merc if not better, cost £250 road tax and £250 classic car insurance can’t go wrong

  • @sjcj92
    @sjcj92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had my 08 750li for 5+ years and it still can put a smile on your face. When properly maintained (to the best of your bank accounts ability) it still hold its own when challenged on the highway and is aging way better than even i expected. Matt is that friend that touches everything in your project car until they find something that breaks, then hides it 🤣
    #banglebutt4lyfe

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this insane video Mat

  • @_monti142
    @_monti142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:23 “back in the early naughties” first time in my life i hear say 00’s like that lol, yes the 2000s where naughty

  • @davidbanks4268
    @davidbanks4268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video as a novelty change from all the hyper stuff, would love to see a few more old school old cheap ratters for a great laugh.

  • @96jessman
    @96jessman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great review guys! Agree with many others, more content like this! Old Top Gear made it work, plz continue their legacy!