Basic Hammer and Dolly Work for Paintless Dent Repair & Auto Body #1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2019
- This video is an introduction to the use of Polished Hammers and Dollies for Paintless Dent Repair and Auto Body techs. NOTE: at the 3 minute mark we resume the video after repositioning the reflection and I lost 3 minutes worth of camera footage because I forgot to turn camera back on. So some of the crown work is missing and dent looks suddenly better after that point. I was going to scrap the video but decided to put it up because the rest of the content was very informative.
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I'm 66 and still learning. I'm heading out to buy a dolly and hammer because I have a lot of time and cars I can practice on, and maybe enjoy a new skill/hobby along the way. Thanks!
Been a few years....how is the progress and practice goin? Orrr ya still with is? No offense
As a car dealer which starting to do my own body repair, you got a loyal sub. 💪 #thankyou
Thanks Ruffian
I've been fixing dings in fiberglass for decades, but never knew how they were fixed on metal. This is a rabbit hole! I'm going to buy a bunch of tools now.
You're right, it is a rabbit hole LOL
I’m a beginner when it comes to hammer and dolly work , I can paint like a pro but my hammer and dolly skills needs work!! Thanks for the lesson 🙏🏻👍🏻
You bet.
Amazing how taking that crease out, popped the dent out. Highs then lows. Great way to remember. Thanks.
I called a PDR guy in my town with a very similar dent, right on my wheel well. He tried to pull it and made a couple new wrinkles then said that's as good as it gets. Seeing this technique I fairly confident that I can improve on his work. Thanks for showing this.
Your welcome Kevin
So nice to see a master at work thanks for everything Marty you’ve helped me tremendously
Very nice of you to say Buddy, hope the videos help you enjoy the trade more and make more money!
Have fun!
Excellent explanation on your process all the way through. I've been in the industry for over a decade and have a full set of body hammers and dollys but get them out infrequently. This was a great refresher.
Thanks for the kinnd words. These really are money making tools.
This is so great ! Thanks for taking the time to film and edit it all so we can learn. Blessings from Australia.
Your welcome Brett.
You made a very informative video that my brain took note of, thank you
Your welcome
Very helpful and informative, thanks for the video.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this video. Nobody is teaching hammer and dolly for PDR. Could you please do more videos on this topic.
Thanks Bob. Yes I'll be doing more videos on this subject. I haven't had as many views / subscribers as I was hoping for, so they will be going up more slowly than the standard PDR videos.
You made that look so easy Marty. Would love to see more videos using dollies.
Thanks Peter. We'll get some more videos up on this subject.
A very big lesson I learned today. Thank you Marty.
Thanks Bilal!
Excellent tuition. Great starting video for DIY at home PDR too. Thanks.
Thanks Andy.
Excellent tutorial Marty!! Thanks for posting.👍👍
Thanks John!
Good work Marty, thanks for sharing with us!
No problem Slavik
Thank you very much for demonstrating skills that take a long time to master.
Your very welcome Carl.
I'm just starting to learn this for a restoration project that my father and I are doing, this really helped!!
Glad you found it helpful!
awesome video best teacher on you tube
Thanks for that great comment Marcelino! We have more coming.
Thanks for the wonderful lesson!
Marty I was a body tech for 18 years and I do pdr now for 8 years and I do work dents like a body man
Yup me to. Most PDR techs don't realize how fast and clean the old school metal working methods are.
In body shop class now and doing dolly and hammer work. This is great stuff to help.
Glad you found it useful Justin. You may also want to check out some of the other videos including the large dent theory videos. VERY helpful to those that are learning the trade.
Yes we need more!
I learned alot watching this. In my inexperience I would just put a dolly behind it and smack the crap out of it until it was smooth-ish. You were barely tapping that hammer and it came out and that crisp body line also. Blew my mind. And I never heard of a polished hammer. I'll look into buying one now. Thank you!
You're welcome Joe
Very good instructional video from an expert.
Thanks John
Amazing as always🎉
I’m a little late but man did you show me something I really appreciate you taking time off your day to make this videos I’ll be looking through your whole Chanel soon
Thanks Miguel
Jimmeney this is great! can't wait till my first wrecked side swipe is parked ....
Thank Marty. I have learned so much from you.
Your very welcome Joel! Glad your benefiting from them.
Awesome! Old school meets pdr
You got it. The old school techniques are making a comeback!
Absolutely superb. Thanks for the tips...I've got an identical dint and all the kit :-) worth a try :-)
Very good instructions
Just found this channel. Just subbed! Hoping to see the advanced dolly techniques in your video list 🙂
Thank you Marty ya please guide us through this procedure 🙏
Thank you for the video you did a great job explaining this.
Thanks Dennis
Its really nice to see someone using a hammer and a dolly.
I am an old metal finisher from way back. Currently working in new car manufacturing at the end of the body line. Man, these kids are so green that the manufacturer wont allow them to hit sheet metal with a hammer...so when I start pulling out techniques like this, they all go berzerk.
Even the supervisor level and "Heavy" repair personnel dont know this basic stuff. Its like they have been repeating kindergarten over and over again for years and years (and I am trying to talk PHD level particle physics to them).
Which is stupid. They need to learn how to do it. It would solve so many problems.
I hear ya!1 It's amazing how techs look right past the obvious tools and techniques to do even simple jobs.
Good work!
Thanks!
Hey thank you for posting this.
Your welcome William.
Thanks for this great video about a very clear explanation.
I'm starting to figure out how metal sheet reacts to any impact (both damaging and repairing impacts).
You're welcome Jorge
Hammer and dolly work is under utilized in the pdr industry. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying we would love to see another video on this subject. Have you ever used this method to remove a deep pit?
No I don't Don. I use very sharp tools for deep pit dents. I have a video on this you may want to check out.
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Your very welcome.
Very nice!
Thanks!
Good job thanks for the video
Your welcome Ralph
Awesome tips
Your welcome Tsukasa
Another master denter spotted!
Sensei! Plss do hire me! 😍
Great vid
Thanks.
LOVE IT
Thanks Tim.
Gud video keep them coming
I bought Maddox kit and heat gun . Just did it and looks better if not perfect . The somewhat minor gouge gonna be tough .
Kool video, I can now practice on my cars.
Thanks for another great lesson. Referencing the technique you taught in the last three minutes, does it work as well on aluminum as on steel?
Yes it does but aluminum needs to be worked a bit differently
Yep , I got a lot of it by heating and pushing up from behind with dollie and was more than a lil surprised how much I got it raised but might overdo it get it too high . I did had to tap it back down
Great! Subscribed
Thanks!
Respect uncle
Thanks for all
Your welcome
Hi Marty thank you for the lesson would it be fair to say that stanliner tools and technics may evolved from the dolly ? Thanks.
Hi Bill. Some of the Stanliner tools are variations on some old school tools such as the knife edge tool for creases that sheet metal guys have used for decades. Even the DW Master tool is a copy of an old school slapper that have been used for almost a hundred years.
Excellent work.. Still practicing.. Takes some skill..
That's it Jon. Practice correctly and you'll get there.
@@martyrunik who are you?
I made this video.
@@martyrunik Awesome job.
If a dent is not on body line, can it just be popped out? Or is this hammer dolly method best
Hey Marty. Very cool never realized this could be used in PDR, How though would you use this method for example under a brace or low access area? Do you get different dollies to slide in and put pressure on the back then hammer out from the top? Show use this Method but under braced areas as we know that is where 95% of our dents are haha!
Thanks! Dollies are mostly for open areas like fenders, rear of quarter panels and doors when the trim is removed. You can use flat or taped tools under braces sometimes to do the same thing. There are lots of different types of dollies for speciality applications such as the stackable dolly shown in this video th-cam.com/video/brCL5G1QHKQ/w-d-xo.html
How good could be use this technique of dolly and hammer in hail damage on hood, roof and trunk? Im begginer, and im looking for tips and tricks to make my job professional quicker!
Thank you for the class!
It wouldn't be as effective as standard methods except in open areas
Massa
Hey Marty thanks much for the lesson. Where can I find a hammer like that?
Eastwood or Finesse PDR tools have them
Marty, I apologize if you've covered this already but can you place a link to the hammer you're using in this repair. Thank you!
Just get a jewelers hammer (also called chasing hammer) from amazon or any metal working tool site.
I'm really thinking of doing it myself though mine is wider though not deep with scratch a somewhat lil bit of a gouge . Is it that necessary to use only polished dollie and hammer ? Polished dollie since it's under the color fender ? Just heat and patiently tap it lil by lil ?
Depends on you skill level. Go slow and be patient!
Got some dents in the rear of the bed of my truck. Can't reach a dolly back there all the way. Can I hammer on the high spots without the dolly in the back?
No it won't work well.
Does that method Also work with aluminum panels
It's a little different method and more difficult with aluminum.
I'm interested
where can I get a small hammer like that ? Only can find bigger hammers
Marty, is that dolly flat surface made by you? Those type of dollies have all some convex in the utility surface. Thanks
Thats a Fairmount Tool Company standard dolly with a slight convex (not flat) shape.
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Perfect. Thanks for the data Marty.
@@UY_pdr2020 You bet.
Did you do work off camera when you changed the light??
Yes I did. I forgot to turn it on until I had worked on it for about 2 minutes. My screw up.
What did you do to remove the dent between 2:45 and 3:00? At 2:45 you can still see the dent. There is a break in the video and at 3:00 the dent is gone.
Yes sorry about that. I mention in the video that I forgot to turn the camera on for a couple minutes after repositioning my reflection light so I could see better. Thats when most of the crown moved. There is still some of the dent left after that but I couldn't get the camera and myself to see it at the same time.
Hey Marty could you teach me how to do pdr ?
Hi Jai. Go to my training website for details. topgunpaintlessdentrepairtrain...
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Thank you for the video. I am not a body guy but a DIYer that loves learning new stuff! You keep referencing 'polished' hammers. Is this something you do personally to your hammers? I assume they don't come that way? Thanks!!
Hi Roger. I have a video on this subject, just search this channel.
@@martyrunik Thank You!
I need to find a dolly i can use on a door panel, but can only access the panel from below and between the door card frame if that makes sense. In other words I can’t apply direct line of site pressure. Thinking I need a small dolly on the end of a hammer handle.
That is called a lollipop and can be found at swap meets sometimes. No one makes them new any more.
Could cut off a cheap harbor freight body hammer
What hammer is this? And where can i find it thanks in advance.
A Jewelers hammer.
Great job 👍 men in bodymen for 15 years an I'm want to Learn how to do pdr what type of hammer you use where did you get it.
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It's a Jewelers or Chasing hammer. You can find them in many places, just do a search for the cheapest.
Why did the video cut and start and sent was gone? Just wondering that’s all
As I say in the video at 5:58 I did loose a couple minutes of working footage after the reflection light change when I forgot to put the camera back on. You can still see some of the body line in after that. Filming while working is still something I'm getting used to, so the job went quick once I could see what I was doing. Rather than scrap the video I just mentioned this at 5:58. Doing the best I can here.
Marty, thank you for another great paintless dent repair instructional video! Do you polish all those dollies yourself? How about that chasing / blending hammer, especially the smaller side, does it cause micro "pits" in the clear coat? Thanks!
Those are high quality dollies and hammers from either Martin Tool and Forge or Fairmount Tools. Eastwood is . a good place to get some of these. I hand dress most of my dolly and hammer faces myself though. If there's enough interest I'll put some videos up on how to do this.
I am too interested in the dolly and hammer
No neither end of the polished hammer causes . micro pits unless you hit too hard.
Where are you located?
Near Sacramento California.
The dent was noticeable when added the board. The camera goes off then back on dent obviously was worked out before camera came back on with the board. Before camera came on after the board there was no matching crease. However there's a crease that goes all the way along the fender with the natural crease of the fender at this point. So the finishing work is just for show because it was already fixed prior so when you turn the camera back on. Which is pointless for those of us they are watching to learn or to see how it's done.
Ya not trying to pull anything. I address this during the video. I forgot to turn the camera back on for a few minutes after working the dent, but posted the video because the basic info was helpful. It was a very quick rough video.
Shut Up man. Just watch and learn.
Why would you hit the front of the paint and not the back if you have access to it? :/
Not in PDR. The dolly moves metal while the hammer releases pressure with light hits.
I screwed it up just looking at it!
I dont understand why you would go backwards to penal beating?
Because it's much faster than doing these with conventional PDR.
It doesn't look like you are putting much force on the hammer at all, is it low force - A LOT OF TIME?
Edit* guess I should have watched the whole video first :)
WAIT a minute: where did that dent go at the scene cut at 02:57? He "repositions" and that sucker is damn near GONE after the edit. 🤔
As I say in the video at 5:58 I did loose about 1.5 minutes of working footage after the reflection light change when I forgot to put the camera back on. You can still see some of the body line in after that. Filming while working is still something I'm getting used to, so the job went quick once I could see what I was doing. Rather than scrap the video I just mentioned this at 5:58. Doing the best I can here.
can you harm the paint ?
Not if the face is highly polished.
Great videos, Marty! Please check the modified version of our fender tool, now with an attachment for screw-on tips, as you suggested: th-cam.com/video/q7qgYy-8lz4/w-d-xo.html
mate put some earplugs in
what a BS video...at 2:57 you blanked it out and when camera came back the dent was almost gone....Dont mislead your audiance!!!! waste of time!
That is why I put the explanation for that error in the description rather than scrap the whole video, as the rest of the content was very informative.
I found this very instructive and explaining of this skill set.
Thanks Craig.