When Paintless Dent Removal Goes Wrong! PDR Fail
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2022
- Every now and again we come across a dent that somebody has tried to fix themselves. Now, this was the case with my customer and his Vauxhall Astra as you can see he's had a go unfortunately made quite a mess of his panel.
Ultimately it's a real mess and I've got to try and figure out how to fix this dent and get the best results I can.
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One of the best demonstrations I've seen. I'm 81 and beginning PDR as a hobby. It takes hours to get right but is very rewarding when the dent is truly gone. Thanks for putting this content on U tube. I'm not going into business just proving that you can teach an old dog new tricks.
Thanks for your comment Jim, I love that you are getting into PDR now at 81, I often have students ask me if they are too old to learn, the day you stop trying to learn new things is when you are too old, I'm glad my videos help!
I’m 62 and trying to learn it I figure it may be a good thing to know after I retire during a few extra bucks
Im 23 getting into autobody and trying to get ahead of the game
@@gtbigdog3507 You are not alone I have quite a few former students that wanted to learn a new hobby that could also bring in an income in retirement, its a great skill to learn and is a good challenge!
Great getting into it young, lots to learn and plenty of directions to go in for the future!
Merry Christmas Tom and family….. Well done on a super clear explanation, using the line board too…..Looking forward to working with you on some projects in 2023
Thanks Martin and Merry Christmas to you too! Yes 2023 will see some new collaborations and ventures for us both, roll on MTE :)
the things you pdr guys do look like magic
Ha ha thank you!
I sure enjoy the videos. I hope your Christmas holiday is going well.
Thanks Wyatt, I'm glad you're enjoying them and hope you've had a great Christmas, all the best for 2023!
Nice save Tom have a great new year 😎👍
Thanks Bill, I have friends out in Australia at the moment and I'm getting pretty jealous of their photos of blue skies and sunshine. Currently sitting in my garage/studio and I'm freezing ha ha. Hope the build is coming on well and wishing you and your family a great 2023
Good work Tom :)
Happy new year buddy
Thanks Tom and Happy New Year to you too! You'll be pleased to know I've actually been hitting the gym at last so will keep it up for 2023. All the best mate!
You are an artist.
Thank you! 🙏
Muchas gracias, excelente lección
¡Gracias por tu comentario! ¡Muy apreciado!
Love it Tom!
Thanks Lee, hope you're well buddy!
Perfect bro ! great job, tanks for your info and capacitation,,gracias, saludos desde Argentina
Thank you, much appreciated 👍
OMG... Just unbeliavble what can be done withthe expertise and tools
Thanks Rob, Yes this one was a bit of a mess, but after a few hours repair work I was able to get it to a satisfactory standard for my customer!
Nice job
Thank you! :)
Now that I've had a few days to work on my own vehicle I'm back to watch this again because this is exactly what my panel looks like now (ha ha) Us DIY guys can keep you busy!
Yep it makes a big difference knowing how to start a dent because how you start will often dictate how you'll finish 👍
Same here. My wife thought it looked good (it’s her vehicle), she said oh wow you got the dent out and I thought it looks awful lol. Just gonna take my time and work at it. Not a good enough car to spend big money making it look perfect but nice enough where I’d like to make the dent look a little better.
Good job bro
Thanks Mous 👍🏻
Well Tom another tidy job from you,can you always fix the oil canning
Thanks Anthony, not always Oil canning is one of the things I struggle with the most asit really depends on the depth of the damage. If its pretty stretched often there is a very slight ripple or bulge in the panel when looking along the side views. I dont have a power pdr or hot box but they're other options to help shrink the metal.
Damn!! Killer job!! How do you go about getting them micro lows out, with no access from behind? Open them up, by blending and glue pull with a small tab. I have the small root beer tabs.
Thanks! Yes if I can not access the area behind, open them up and try to pull up the centre and repeat this process until its out. With this repair I did have access so I di both.
@@LearnPDROnline nice. Thanks. I got the top half mint. The lower is close. The body line on rear panel above the wheel in a 2017 Mustang is tough to get back. But I’m close there too. Couldn’t do it without your Vids. 🙏🏼
This does my head in customers trying to fix damage then come in expecting us to fix their bodge up ,I have a transit 1/4 tomorrow that a customer thought he’d try fix himself but didn’t know the bottom hinge on the quarter is still forward holding in the quarter ,so now it’s all stretched and he’s been hitting it with a pointed hammer
Ouch! hitting it with a pointed hammer.... You'll have your work cut out for sure. Yes its tricky finding the balance between showing customers the benefits of PDR without making it look easier than it is Thanks John
Then why all the PDR DIY videos? I’m here because I kinda feel like I did botch it (enough at least to start getting quotes) but should I expect to get ridiculed by the PDR experts and get sent to a body shop because I ruined my one-time only chance? I don’t get it.
@@LearnPDROnline Tom you’re great! My comment was for the other guy ☝️
Not knocking as it does look a really nice job, at the finish shots u see almost orange peel is that just a massive amount of micro highs and lows that will never come out? And is this a standard for all repairs?
Hi thanks for your comment and question, the standard is to get each dent 100% clean where possible but in this scenario the panel had already been stretched when the customer attempted to have ago himself so my job here was to try and save the panel. I did advise it was unlikely to be 100% and he was happy with PDR over the alternative option of a bodyshop. To answer your other question yes there are lots of tiny micro highs and lows which is the result of shrinking the metal manually to avoid the panel popping in and out. The finish shot here is just before I gave the panel a light flat and polish which further reduces the appearance but another alternative would be to use something like an induction tool to shrink the metal. I do not use one of these myself though. Hope that helps answer your questions
I have something same did job on A pillar,may could you tell me if it is repairable with pdr when there is no acces from inside?
Hi Camilo, when there is no access to the area behind such as an A pillar then you may be limited to 'Glue Pull' only. It depends on the severity of the damage and your skill level with the tools available but you would likely have to work from the outside only.
Hello tom, i assume you prefer the board from the light?
I mostly work outside so for me a reflector board is often clearer/brighter than a light, I do switch to using my led board inside, but yes my preference is the reflector board!
i might look into training i have popped a few dents out but didn't have these tools i love cars and hate dents
Yes, the right tools and some training can make all the difference, so when you're ready to learn, send me a message and Il share some info with you on tools and training!
Pretty good.
Thank you 🙏
Wow that's a mess !! ... I wouldn't challenge it even . LoL 😂
Especially, Oil Can part . Without hot box I do t know how one can fix it.
Yeah it was definitely a mess but it came out well, a hot box would have helped to shrink the metal in the later stages, without one I had to make small accurate pushes in the right locations surrounding the dent to help create stability in the panel!
What do I do if I pulled the metal too far out creating a huge mound?
Hey Ruben, the best fix is to gently work the mound back down again with accurate tap down work. If the high spot is sharp youll need a sharp tap down if its soft then use a soft tap down. Depends how big it is but I usually start in the middle, the highest spot.
@@LearnPDROnline do you use metal tap downs or plastic for this mound?
Easy save for a good tech.
Thanks 👍
See I stopped before it got that bad 😅. I got about 50 60% at best but was fighting with highs and lows on a 2014 Toyota Rav4 rear quarter area.
😅 Yeah this one was a bit messy but all ok in the end. Usually these types of reworks require a lot more tapping down than anything else 👍
I did the same thing to my daughters car it’s a new wrinkle finish. Could only use glue pulling and tapping. But man tapping is tough ☹️
Yes tapping is a huge part if the process, I often spend longer on the tapping side than I do pushing or pulling!
What's the best indicator to identify a high spot. Some dents are hard to identify.
I use lines to read damage so for me I check the reflection of my lines and when it appears the lines are pinched together or any areas where the lines appear closer to each other than they should be then this indicates the panel is high in that area, Thanks
@@LearnPDROnline thanks, sometimes I see that and I can't tell if that's high or low. Can you also elaborate why You focus on correcting the high points before the lowest points of the dent?
@@bulldogkarma No problem, sometimes when a repair has multiple highs and lows its tricky to see with the line board, the best method is to move the line board around and try it further back until you clearly see the damage. I usually tap down all the highs I can see from one angle to allow me to have a clearer view of the damage, you can either remove all the lows to see the highs or remove all the highs to see the lows, I like to tap down the highs myself as that often reduces some of the 'fake lows' ie areas either side of a high spot that can often look like minor lows
no colleague no. edging pull edging half-circular edging and sheet the very thing is that the stretched edging and plane are invisible to the eye.) and then the plane
I don't understand, planes? edging? half-circular?
His actually did u a favor
In what way? Do you mean because he had already started the repair? I'm intrigued...
just me or are 90% of European cars hatchbacks?
We do have a lot but still plenty of estates, saloons, convertibles and vans too! 😀
Why didn’t you show the shrinking part… dislike
This video is not about shrinking metal which is why I titled it 'When PDR goes Wrong'. The repair took around 4 hours to rectify so its not easy to show every single aspect of every repair in a free TH-cam video. We have our dedicated training site for this purpose, to allow us to go into the real detail of what's involved in every single repair and the tools and techniques involved.