1:05 5 takes is a good amount 1:30 Mic choice. Try different ones. Distance from mic at different times. 2:10 Recording 2:42 Recorded the verses and choruses separately. 3:24 Selecting favourite phrases from the parts. Vocal comping tools. Open tracks lane. Will listen to them for nuances. 4:51 5:25 Listen with Dim Solo selected to hear it in context. Carefully listening for the favourite. Go with gut instinct. See video about Vocal Comping in Cakewalk. 8:38 Clip gain. Look for quieter phrases and make them louder if wanted. 9:53 Process > Apply Effect > Gain 10:56 Commit to what takes you want. 11:19, 11:50 Pitch correction with Melodyne. Select clip then Ctrl-M. Opinions on whether you should use pitch correction. 12:52 Correct Pitch Macro. Pitch Centre and Pitch Drift. 15:09 Edited the main vocals now so the harmony vocals can sing along to it better. Using unison vocals (duplications) pan them left and right to add extra oomf. Demo of the effect. 16:15 Got to get it just right. Done the same with the harmonies. 17:19 Added a few more details with percussion. And tidy up the big number of tracks.
I often record my own vocals doing the verses and the choruses separately. I typically find it comes out better that way, with my voice sounding stronger and less fatigued.
Keep in mind when correcting pitch that there is ‘just intonation’ and ‘equal tempered’ and that just intervals sound more pure but deviate from equal tempered, which is what Melodyne is correcting to. Equal tempered can be as much as 14 or more cents off from just, depending on the interval. Singers naturally sing harmonies in just intonation because it sounds better. To understand this better, play your guitar’s G and B strings together, a major third. Now by ear tune your B string until the interval sounds smooth and is not beating. You have just tuned to just intonation. If you check the B note on a tuner it will be 14 cents flat. Now tune it back up to pitch with the tuner and play the 2 strings again. The interval will not sound as pure. So careful around pitch correction, what looks wrong might be right.
Pitch Correcting: you tune a guitar, you can tune a voice. It's not a magic wand. That minor correction is 95% for your (artists) nitpicking. Your fine mate! Thank you for doing these you have helped me so much!
Mike! These videos, and this series in particular, are so fantastic! You're kind of spoiling me for much of the rest of TH-cam. Bravo and continued thanks. Now to rest my brain before moving on to Episode 9!
I became aware of Melodyne a couple weeks ago (still a novice). my mission is to get my songs presentable and out there. Unfortunately I am a very poor vocalist. Melodyne is the magic sauce that gets my vocals, although not close to good, into the acceptable range for a demo song; I wouldn't be able to proceed without it. Not sure about the controversy Mike mentions, perhaps some kind of "purist" thing, but I would bet my shorts that the pros and stars use vocal correction of some kind on their recordings.
Another great tutorial Mike and you're sounding good even without the pitch correction - even Melodyne couldn't cope with my voice :-) It was really interesting to see the techniques I've previously read about put into action and explained really clearly
Another good video. I like the extra voices with the harmony. I found doctoring the harmonies with Izotope Vocalsynth added some nice variance in the background but each to his own that way. You song is coming together nicely. Tony
Superb video mike. I have really enjoyed watchin how you track and some of the tips have been really good. Equally as excited to watch the next stage in the series. 10/10 so far my friend!!!
Well seems I was kind of right. So, I do guessing accents for fun. And yours is particularly hard to nail. I have been listening to the entirety of this playlist and I was just: he's English, but, I hear a lot of pronunciation that's very common in Aussie accents. Then I disputed it again, because there were so many other pronunciation that was contradictory that is more in line with English accents that are absent in Aussie accents. And I was just, what is going on here?! Then I just put two and three together and I determined there must be a reason why it sounds so mixed in together and thought: either he is raised in Australia and was born in England or the other way around. And it was the other way around! Crazy how fun this stuff can be and how it can keep you busy and have fun recognizing accents and their mannerisms 😂
I don't know where else to go. I have recorded vocals, edited with Melodyne, then I freeze the track. After recording a few music tracks, I want to unfreeze the vocal so I can make a small change. When I unfreeze, the vocal track slides about 2-3 measures to the left. This is driving me crazy. Any thoughts? I'm using CW for BL and I'm using Melodyne 5 as a track FX. Thanks for all help.
The issue with being a better singer is that it takes more time. Many vocal coaches will tell you that you have maybe 90 minutes of good singing voice per day, less if you don't sing properly and similar. Relatistically speaking, an average Joe with no training may have 15-30 minutes of good singing per day at most.
Hi! I'm a beginner, and I have a question that I can't find the answer to. I have instances where a bigger chunk of the end of a verse overlaps with the beginning of the next one, but I recorded both verses onto the same track, and I can only choose one take for a particular part (so it cuts either the end or the beginnig of a verse off). I hope I could explain my problem clearly enough. Thanks in advance for your help!
Mike, are you able to do a Cakewalk tutorial on the following: When I record vocals for example, I want to send the instruments (or guide track) to an external little mixer (behringer in my case). This way the singer can have their own mix over the headphones. How to do that in Cakewalk. Cheers, Roy
I'm beginner, at the the learning stage and I have a question. After adding 2-3 tracks (whether it's instrument or vocal) I got intermittent, discontinuous sound like the computer or program couldn't handle it. I can only imagine what will happen with 40 tracks... Did anyone face similar issue? Mind you my computer is new, fast, lot of free memory, with a good parameters.Pls help
Hello Mike. Here is my problem at the moment. When I'm recording in a new channel it also takes the sound of the other channel of the mix. What am I doing wrong? Greetings from Greece.
Hi Mike ,I record My self With bm-800 Mic and I did all I can To mix It Like Equalize and Compression,But when I play it It doesn't sound Like Those Voice On the Commercial Songs,What am I doing wrong ?
@@CreativeSauce thanks so much for getting back to me. Is it a good idea to do multiple vocals and pan to left and right or should I stick to a mono track without panning at all
hey i have a question. As i were recording my vocals, the vocal track is recording my vocal and also my minus one music. how do i record my vocals only without the music ?
Just tried to go and buy Melodine for artists- more specifically SONAR artist. Was then taken to a page saying " I am saddened to announce that we ceased new product development and reduced overall operations this past Friday. ".......... Does this mean I can no longer use the software? I'm half way though tracking a song for a student- however would love some pitch correction here or there. Any workaround? Does this mean cakewalk is over and we gotta go somewhere else?
Hi and thanks for your course! Perfect for me as a beginner. Now to a problem. I use shift+space. Perfect. At minute 8 you say that I can use Return to chose the sector that I want. You get it market but when I do it the Record button is marked in the track. What am I doing wrong? Greeting from Sweden.
Often people are too intolerant of pitch correction. It certainly has many problems, but it also has many advantages. Some people criticize singers, engineers, and even the song itself just for the fact that it uses melodyne. I assume this is why Mike is choosing his words so carefully. It's like someone who only accepts 100% organic food. I respect that policy. However, that is not necessarily a valid reason to be so critical of others.
I like to make up songs from Aerosmith The All-American Rejects Evanescence Christina Aguilera Alanis Morissette Hilary Duff Avril Lavigne And Kelly Clarkson Jennifer Lopez and Kylie Minogue And Many More.
I wasted years on audacity , just downloaded cakewalk and love it. Thanks for the tutorials 😁
same here bro
1:05 5 takes is a good amount
1:30 Mic choice. Try different ones. Distance from mic at different times.
2:10 Recording
2:42 Recorded the verses and choruses separately.
3:24 Selecting favourite phrases from the parts. Vocal comping tools. Open tracks lane. Will listen to them for nuances.
4:51
5:25 Listen with Dim Solo selected to hear it in context. Carefully listening for the favourite. Go with gut instinct. See video about Vocal Comping in Cakewalk.
8:38 Clip gain. Look for quieter phrases and make them louder if wanted.
9:53 Process > Apply Effect > Gain
10:56 Commit to what takes you want.
11:19, 11:50 Pitch correction with Melodyne. Select clip then Ctrl-M. Opinions on whether you should use pitch correction.
12:52 Correct Pitch Macro. Pitch Centre and Pitch Drift.
15:09 Edited the main vocals now so the harmony vocals can sing along to it better. Using unison vocals (duplications) pan them left and right to add extra oomf. Demo of the effect.
16:15 Got to get it just right. Done the same with the harmonies.
17:19 Added a few more details with percussion. And tidy up the big number of tracks.
I often record my own vocals doing the verses and the choruses separately. I typically find it comes out better that way, with my voice sounding stronger and less fatigued.
Whatever we gotta do to make it work! I think if I was singing it at a gig, maybe adrenaline plays a part. But in the studio, it's a different feel.
I record each verse and each chorus on a separate track. After comping, I move the comp clips to one track for all verses and one track for choruses
Keep in mind when correcting pitch that there is ‘just intonation’ and ‘equal tempered’ and that just intervals sound more pure but deviate from equal tempered, which is what Melodyne is correcting to. Equal tempered can be as much as 14 or more cents off from just, depending on the interval.
Singers naturally sing harmonies in just intonation because it sounds better.
To understand this better, play your guitar’s G and B strings together, a major third. Now by ear tune your B string until the interval sounds smooth and is not beating. You have just tuned to just intonation. If you check the B note on a tuner it will be 14 cents flat. Now tune it back up to pitch with the tuner and play the 2 strings again. The interval will not sound as pure.
So careful around pitch correction, what looks wrong might be right.
Pitch Correcting: you tune a guitar, you can tune a voice. It's not a magic wand. That minor correction is 95% for your (artists) nitpicking. Your fine mate! Thank you for doing these you have helped me so much!
Mike! These videos, and this series in particular, are so fantastic! You're kind of spoiling me for much of the rest of TH-cam. Bravo and continued thanks. Now to rest my brain before moving on to Episode 9!
Clip gain is a whole lot faster and easier if you just highlight section, hold cntl and left click inside section. Great video. Thanks.
These tutorials are a great help.❤
wow, you are thorough....love this program, thanks!
Another great video, thanks Mike! Looking forward to more of this series. I will also try to be there on Feb. 21 for your next Q & A session! :)
I became aware of Melodyne a couple weeks ago (still a novice). my mission is to get my songs presentable and out there. Unfortunately I am a very poor vocalist. Melodyne is the magic sauce that gets my vocals, although not close to good, into the acceptable range for a demo song; I wouldn't be able to proceed without it. Not sure about the controversy Mike mentions, perhaps some kind of "purist" thing, but I would bet my shorts that the pros and stars use vocal correction of some kind on their recordings.
Another great tutorial Mike and you're sounding good even without the pitch correction - even Melodyne couldn't cope with my voice :-) It was really interesting to see the techniques I've previously read about put into action and explained really clearly
Instablaster.
Another good video. I like the extra voices with the harmony. I found doctoring the harmonies with Izotope Vocalsynth added some nice variance in the background but each to his own that way. You song is coming together nicely. Tony
Thanks again Mike!
My pleasure!
Whether I will do it all exactly like this? Probably not. But I have, again, learned a few things. Thanks!
Superb video mike. I have really enjoyed watchin how you track and some of the tips have been really good. Equally as excited to watch the next stage in the series. 10/10 so far my friend!!!
Hey Mike. Ready for this one :). Thanks again!
Cheers Roy - enjoy!
Hi Mike, if you are going to use melodyne , you might as well do volume changes of phrases in that,
Nice tip, thanks George!
Superb video - great tips very clearly explained! I’m becoming addicted 😉 - thank you!!
Well seems I was kind of right. So, I do guessing accents for fun. And yours is particularly hard to nail.
I have been listening to the entirety of this playlist and I was just: he's English, but, I hear a lot of pronunciation that's very common in Aussie accents. Then I disputed it again, because there were so many other pronunciation that was contradictory that is more in line with English accents that are absent in Aussie accents. And I was just, what is going on here?!
Then I just put two and three together and I determined there must be a reason why it sounds so mixed in together and thought: either he is raised in Australia and was born in England or the other way around. And it was the other way around!
Crazy how fun this stuff can be and how it can keep you busy and have fun recognizing accents and their mannerisms 😂
love your content! keep it up
I learned a lot
Great to hear Brian!
I don't know where else to go. I have recorded vocals, edited with Melodyne, then I freeze the track. After recording a few music tracks, I want to unfreeze the vocal so I can make a small change. When I unfreeze, the vocal track slides about 2-3 measures to the left. This is driving me crazy. Any thoughts? I'm using CW for BL and I'm using Melodyne 5 as a track FX. Thanks for all help.
I would use the gain effect to reduce the gain on the high spikes of the vocal which will then allow you to bring the volume up on the whole track
That's what compressors are for.
Would have been the perfect time to demonstrate the free Voc-align tool in Cakewalk.
The issue with being a better singer is that it takes more time. Many vocal coaches will tell you that you have maybe 90 minutes of good singing voice per day, less if you don't sing properly and similar. Relatistically speaking, an average Joe with no training may have 15-30 minutes of good singing per day at most.
Do you have tutorial on how to record vocals from the beginning?
I've to get used to work with Melodyne. As I saw in the vers 5 the possibilities are really amazing
Shhh, that my next video :)
Hi! I'm a beginner, and I have a question that I can't find the answer to.
I have instances where a bigger chunk of the end of a verse overlaps with the beginning of the next one, but I recorded both verses onto the same track, and I can only choose one take for a particular part (so it cuts either the end or the beginnig of a verse off).
I hope I could explain my problem clearly enough.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Zoom in split
Hi can you tell me please how you select different types pf microphones for you parts? Thanks
You sing great, dude! Take it from a 55 year old singer!
Mike, are you able to do a Cakewalk tutorial on the following: When I record vocals for example, I want to send the instruments (or guide track) to an external little mixer (behringer in my case). This way the singer can have their own mix over the headphones. How to do that in Cakewalk. Cheers, Roy
I'm beginner, at the the learning stage and I have a question. After adding 2-3 tracks (whether it's instrument or vocal) I got intermittent, discontinuous sound like the computer or program couldn't handle it. I can only imagine what will happen with 40 tracks... Did anyone face similar issue? Mind you my computer is new, fast, lot of free memory, with a good parameters.Pls help
i might have missed it but are you recording the vocals dry or through hardware effects rack?
Hello Mike. Here is my problem at the moment. When I'm recording in a new channel it also takes the sound of the other channel of the mix. What am I doing wrong? Greetings from Greece.
Hi Mike ,I record My self With bm-800 Mic and I did all I can To mix It Like Equalize and Compression,But when I play it It doesn't sound Like Those Voice On the Commercial Songs,What am I doing wrong ?
Do you record vocals in mono or stereo?
Hi Lindsay, I always record in mono. There are some effects that require a stereo feed (rare), in which case I send my mono signal to a stereo bus.
@@CreativeSauce thanks so much for getting back to me. Is it a good idea to do multiple vocals and pan to left and right or should I stick to a mono track without panning at all
Also is it a good idea to normalize tracks after recording or not
How to join the verse and chorus ? Thanks
Hey ! is it possible to hear the effect while recoding like in the BandLab app ?
hey i have a question. As i were recording my vocals, the vocal track is recording my vocal and also my minus one music. how do i record my vocals only without the music ?
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Thanks for watching!
Just tried to go and buy Melodine for artists- more specifically SONAR artist. Was then taken to a page saying " I am saddened to announce that we ceased new product development and reduced overall operations this past Friday. ".......... Does this mean I can no longer use the software? I'm half way though tracking a song for a student- however would love some pitch correction here or there. Any workaround? Does this mean cakewalk is over and we gotta go somewhere else?
In the newest updates melodyne should be built into cakewalk
Hi and thanks for your course! Perfect for me as a beginner. Now to a problem. I use shift+space. Perfect. At minute 8 you say that I can use Return to chose the sector that I want. You get it market but when I do it the Record button is marked in the track. What am I doing wrong? Greeting from Sweden.
Hm. I found it by myself..
any preamp plugin possible in Cakewalk? thx
Thank you very much brother will love to have a one and one chat with you very great MUSIC person
my vocals lag behing than the music idk why but my voice always got delayed . can anyone tell me what to do?
I gave my tambourine away about five years ago to a music project I used to work in (to the acoustic dome, I was in the electric dome).
I'm sure it's now being played by a girlfriend of the singer in a band somewhere:p
Hello Mike its Melodyne in CakeWalk for free?
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:) Thanks for watching!
I usually let someone else sing instead of pitch correction! ;) ;)
MAKE A NOISE REDUCTION TUTORIAL
Often people are too intolerant of pitch correction. It certainly has many problems, but it also has many advantages.
Some people criticize singers, engineers, and even the song itself just for the fact that it uses melodyne. I assume this is why Mike is choosing his words so carefully.
It's like someone who only accepts 100% organic food. I respect that policy. However, that is not necessarily a valid reason to be so critical of others.
what ...no cow bell........:>)
I like to make up songs from Aerosmith The All-American Rejects Evanescence Christina Aguilera Alanis Morissette Hilary Duff Avril Lavigne And Kelly Clarkson Jennifer Lopez and Kylie Minogue And Many More.