How NOT to Discern Your Vocation! | Mthr Natalia
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Mother is the vocations director for her monastery. In this episode she talks about common errors, misteps, and mistakes discerners make. This is not just for young women she speaks on how Men and Women can fall into these traps. This is also not just for those discerning a religious vocation her advice is for those discerning marriage as well.
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I’m 75, soon to be 76, and was on a retreat with a religious order that I felt called to in June. I’m a widow and have been praying to know if God was calling me to the religious life. At the end of the retreat I was invited to enter, and fully intended to enter after the first of the year. But…after visiting a grandson who is going through a divorce and my 3 great-grandsons this month, I feel called to move from CA to his state to help with these precious little boys. I’m praying this is God’s will for my life.
You only thought you were called.
You were called to serve, just in a different way.
Loving your family and being a support in this critical time will bless their whole lives-down seven generations! The destruction of lives through divorce is a common tragedy that breaks lives. You will be a great, great blessing to them.
@marleneriley2111 many in your family will be blessed by your faithful example. No divorce in my family growing up, but I think I wouldn’t have left Catholic faith if I had someone who could have faithfully, patiently communicated the faith to me like you are doing in your family💜
I pray for you and your family. I hope though that this is not a spiritual attack.
Mother Natalia radiates with the Holy Spirit. She's glowing.
“Community intensifies our struggles.” I never thought of it that way but upon reflection, I agree.
Please pray for me as I discern a career change. I have taken the first “rules” prescription to update my resume, become more vocal on job sites, and other baby steps.
I made enquiries into the priesthood myself. I held back in revealing how strongly I truly felt towards this vocation. Priests themselves commented to me that I have a vocation.That was ten years ago. With the changes that have happened over the years, I see it as the biggest mistake I never made. Maybe there is still a vocation to discern. I just don't know. Right now, after the incredible ordeals I've been put through, I'm surprised that I still have faith. All I can do is pray, talk to God.
Maybe reach out to your diocese’ vocational director? He can guide you better than your own mind in these matters.
wow, the points about the healing in your vocation and transparency w/ others in discernment are so good. I have made some mistakes in discernment recently and it all came down to a need for transparency. I have been praying about my vocation and felt a nudge a few days ago (probably my guardian angel) to pray to St Raphael for healing. I am so glad I also listened to the nudge to watch this! Thank you sister!
I remember when I was first introduced to Mother Natalia it was on PWA when she was still a sisters and did not yet have the title of Mother. Man you have been doing great stuff!! You're an absolute gem with your advice and words! God bless you!!
Thank you for the insight on the questions you covered! You have such an authentic love for your vocation and it shows!
I love the prayer at the end about using technology properly!
Thank you, Mother Natalia. Excellent presentation.
Thank you. Please, more content about discerning vocations 🙏
I literally gave it all to God TODAY concerning the discerning of my vocation. that he will guide me the right way, thank you ! Our Lord works through this channel so much ! Viva Cristo Rey !
12:54 Thank you Holy Spirit for giving Mthr Natalia your Wisdom.
I feel stronger in my faith after hearing this. Thank you, Amiga!
Mother Natalia radiates with the holy spirit. She's glowing. I'm literally awestruck.
Im nearly 70yo but I also found your talk helpful. Thank you for your honesty and holiness! 🙏
Very useful information and guidance. Presently discerning marriage with my boyfriend, and I can see the parallels between discerning marriage and religious life. I will listen to anything else that you produce on this topic
Watch Following Padre Pio. Always ask your guardian angel to help you and to communicate with your family’s guardian angel’s
@@simonslater9024 I love the thought of communicating with my family members' guardian angels
Thank you, Mother Natalia, for this excellent video.
Mother Natalia's comments regarding using your choice of vocation as a point of escapism is quite important. Many people choose an act of religious devotion as means to evade that which troubles them, instead of using such devotion as a means to get close to God. We should never use a prayer or vocational choice as a drug that provides catharsis from that which ails us, or a means to numb us to the harshness of reality.
Thank you Mother Natalia, for wisdom.
Rules:
1. Don't become paralized ➜ take steps, be proactive, don't be afraid of going to a "come and see" or going on a date.
2. Don't think your struggles will go away ➜ they don't disappear once you enter your vocation, the Lord will help you carry them.
3. Don't try to trick yourself or others ➜ be transparent, be open. Trust your spiritual director and your vocational director.
Oooo this was fantastic, thank you mother Natalia 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Just asked St. Anthony to help me with this and it just posted...
Deos gratias
Deo* we are not polytheists
@@jeannebouwman1970I think he just got Latin confused with Spanish
@@jeannebouwman1970 Plural would be Deorum. Deos would be accusative. So he did not speak in plural.
@@rokvelic2945 deos is plural accusative. Deo is singular dative. Deorum is plural genitive. You are right, deorum is plural, but so is Dei, deis and deos. Deorum deis and deos can only be plural, Dei can also be singular genitive.
Thank you Mother Natalia for this video🙏🏾
`the vocatio n in which you enter is supposed to be healing for you.` finally somebody is pointing this out. I am so tired of hearing how marriage is not a place for healing and how you should heal first.
Tell me about it. Im 26 and still havent met a good woman and I am worried. Every relationship attempt I have tried to make hasnt worked out for me at all lately. I know God is in control but that has me worried that I will never meet the right one.
@@MB_Biggie_CheeseSame, although I am 25 and have never dated a girl and so I am a virgin.
Now I am struggling a bit knowing if priesthood/consecrated life is for me
@@karlheven8328 do you genuinely want to be a priest or a monk or have the same fear that I do? Because I genuinely dont want to be a priest or a monk and worry I have that vocation just because I havent met the right woman yet and all my other relationship attempts have failed. Are you working out and taking care of yourself?
@@MB_Biggie_Cheese I am in a special situation because I am only catholic since December last year. I made a very conscious decision to convert from German Lutheranism to Catholicism after 1 year of reading and 2 years going to mass. So I am very militant about Church affairs and generally interested in history and THEOLOGY. However I have to finish my law studies first where I kind of got.stuck for 1 year after studying since 6 years (not unusual, average is 5-6 years though). I am a bit depressed about life as a lawyer and the life that comes with that which will not change my attractiveness.
I am fit but not jacked, 178 cm and 63 kg so pretty slim, maybe a bit too slim.
But arguably I invested too much energy into religious matters/knowledge. I will finish my studies because I have to but mentally I can hardly imagine doing a job I feel I only would do in order to attract women anyways. (I am an only child and my father is a very successful lawyer, yet I do not see myself as doing what he does). Now I kind of feel like I need a woman to provide me with emotional support until I finish my studies and then I can further make a decision.😅
@@MB_Biggie_Cheese Honestly I am scared more by commitment to a bad marriage. This fundamentally scares me: Having to settle with a woman that gives you hell or gives you a bad time, aka. having higher expectations of me than I do for her.
Thank you for this video. It was all very helpful.
Thank you Mother Natalia. God bless you
She’s so beautiful and gracious ❤
Thank you Mother for your service to God’s flock. God bless
That was a beautiful prayer in the End.
Thank you SO much. 🤍🙏🏼
At times I very much wish I'd discerned a religious life
never too late
@@anthonyrodriguez6181It is if you're married 😅
@@thatsfunny2051 as a man? No it's not, as you can still become a deacon.
@@thatsfunny2051 Not in the Byzantine Catholic church, and not in the Orthodox Church, which is the true Church of Christ.
@@anthonyrodriguez6181the orthodox became CULTS in 1054AD. Jesus founded his Church 1000 years earlier so your wrong.
Each step in life is reversible….
It’s not a closed door
Sadly marriage and kids are not easily reversible..The others are yes. But they take vows too, so it shouldn't be lightly. But they are progressive.
That is the dumbest thing I've read today. You cannot walk back through time. ALL things are irreversible. What an insipid, female perspective!
This was really helpful Thankyou 🙏
No, impossible. That is impossible, if one came to the calling with a sincere heart...!! You can overlook things, and make reasoning errors, but that one is NOT possible!!
wonderful interview.
It's all about the Vocation Vocation Vocation! :-)
Where can I apply to be a professional Cave Monk ? And does the cave come with WiFi ? 😀
Great topic.
Motherly advice
What I don't understand is... what is the point of having a plan in your life if God does not reveal it to you? I am already 48 and still have no clue what my life purpose and God's plan are for my life, which drives me crazy, as I ask Him every day about it. Any help?
I'm not sure if this will help but maybe you are in your vocation or state of life that God wants.
I think sometimes our expectations of what our life should unconsciously gets in the way to see clearly God's plan, to accept it or to follow it.
Maybe stop praying for it for a while, maybe He is calling you to trust in Him more, to blindly surrender to Him, to believe in Him that whatever you do it is His will, His plan.
We don't need to be doing something specific or 'big' or Important to say that we are fulfilling God's plan for our lives.
I hope this helped in a way.
Im currently discerning religious life and will be entering in the autumn time. Let me tell you what I have learned so far. “What if God does not reveal it to you?” If you haven’t actively discerned then this could be why. It was only after I visited convents that I knew what God wanted from me. It was a slow progress really, my vocation built up over time. But you need to obviously pray a lot but also get out there and actively discern. I promise this will make things all the clearer, don’t date and discern priesthood or religious life at the same time. Put aside a year to actively discern, visit a few places. If you still don’t know then just enter somewhere and if it doesn’t work out then thats it. Ask God to make it abundantly clear what He wants you to do. O Lord do with me what Thou wilt!
I will pray for you! God bless you
He doesn't appear to his faithful sheep has often. he appears to his lost sheep and i was one of them ...If your soul is not in danger or you have extreme distress he may not appear to you. It not that he doesn't love you or care. keep praying, God right now is converting the pagan and the Islamist ...I was wiccan Norse witch ,i was baptized but my mom stops going to church has she did not feel welcome and i was 5 years old.
so, the only think closes to have a God/faith was witchcraft. Jesus started to mess with my card decks saying i belong to heaven and searching a new faith! in every reading for a whole year and after he appear to me in a dream. I tough about it for a couple of month (took me a while to understand what I was seen, and it was the trinity which i did not learn or believe in i saw Jesus and Gas like vapor effect inside him and the golden light, the father so warm and beautiful like a welcoming hug ! ) and decide to follow him :) 🧕🏼✝️🥰 God is busy bringing the lost sheep's back and building our next home! Don't doubt him he cares very much!
@@funnygaming2672 I love your welcoming home story! Especially when Jesus played with your cards. My heart melted reading this , I can't even describe it into words...
@@some1faraway26 of course it helps. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me! A big hug
Thanks for sharing-
In the West, it seems if you are not in a convent, seminary, or married by 21, there is something wrong with you.
Give youself time. And families of the young adult, GIVE THEM SPACE. Who made you God?
I think it's really only American Christians who get worked up about getting married or in the convent by age 21. In Australia for example there is no culture of "ring by spring" etc
In the USA*
Bro I am 26 and still not married to a good woman and want to meet the right woman already. All my relationship attempts have failed and I am getting really worried that I never will meet the right one. I dont want to be a priest or monk or a permanent bachelor. I live in the US.
@@MB_Biggie_Cheese it's very tough out there for singles at the moment. I'm a 34 yo woman, and I started dating my boyfriend eight months ago. Prior to that point, I had essentially given up. At 26, I was single as heck with no prospects on the horizon. It was really stressful. Once I got past 30, it was easier. That's because past 30, I gave up and started worrying about other things
@@thatsfunny2051 I’m glad you found someone! I wish I had your luck!
i needed this today
One thing that may help people is meta meditation... You are not your feelings, or body, or compulsions, or addictions, memories, or sufferings... You are AWARENESS. Everything else may touch you, Awareness, but those things are Not-You. Be fully honest in full self awareness and other awareness and spiritual awareness. Typical singular awareness practice focuses on the heartbeat, the steps of breathing, or quieting noisy thoughts.
We are our body. We are a marriage of body and soul. Theology of the body is worth looking into.
@@spleeneryI would argue that we aren't our body but that we have a body.
New age nonsense, here??
@@caseygina3553yep, sounds like new age chant…
@@caseygina3553 no new age, actually very old truth. YOU are Awareness. The first thing you are aware of is self Awareness, then thoughts, memories, heart beat, breathing, body, cold, warm, pain etc.
But all you were, are, or ever be is Awareness.
Many times sister our wounds get in the way. Therefore we are come dishonest etc.
I didn't hide it, but I prayed and prayed, and I didn't know what the uneasy* unsure*, feeling meant.🤔 (What is it?I felt logically certain it would work.) Now, i know. The spouse left me after 13 yrs. 12 of which i was treated like an subordinate lowly employee. 😂 Peace 🙏😂. I was no pro at discernment.
Excellent first one. What’s the next right step?
Would love a bunch more hym videos!
Ladies, FEEEEEEELing good does not mean you are being "called."
In the West, we try to "define God" by who He is. In the East, it is by who He is not.
Even in Martial Arts it is considered not "genuine" to pay money for your classes... :))
No, there's rules about it (money) and that's all. Unfortunately, it would be hard these days for the World to function without it.
If you get the chance please read what the lepanto institute says about save the children
The Lepanto Institute has some fire headlines.
6:29 This laugh :D
She is so pleasant.
Is there any advice you can give for a male who is discerning a celibate unconsecrated life? It seems like there isn’t much to do like say being married and having kids or becoming a priest and celebrating mass and all that. Women have consecrated virginity, but no such thing exists for men.
@@mlelko do you genuinely want that life or want to get married instead?
@@MB_Biggie_Cheese I don’t have much of a choice. I am SSA , so I can never get married or join holy orders. Also, your username is hilarious.
@@MB_Biggie_Cheese Also, for many men it's not a matter of want. Women don't want to get married and we WILL not accept the sloppy seconds who convert when they are thirty.
The Ouija Boards are not good sources for career advice ! 😲
Lol it would rather be the start to a horror movie.
@@fotisvon9943 truth !
I think of it differently. I used to watch all these videos on discernment, talking things through, “is it rational” all of that.
What I have come to realize is that God will give you the next step. We dance around the reality that God already told us what’s next. And when we don’t act on it, it still stays in our mind. It’s not going anywhere.
There’s so much suffering there. Instead of using our minds for “how can I may it happen” we try to rationalize our negatives over God when we know it’s a good thing and it might be a little scary or entail suffering.
Take the step, and the next step will be revealed.
You got nothing to lose cause it’s just going to stay in your brain anyway.
Bro I am 26 and still not married to a good woman and want to meet the right woman already. All my relationship attempts have failed and I am getting really worried that I never will meet the right one. I dont want to be a priest or monk or a permanent bachelor. Im lonely and worried. My works have failed and my prayers to meet the right person havent been answered. I feel stuck permanently.
Sorry it is more than talking personally with our Heavenly Father right? Because we can misinterpret things and thoughts.
Amen 🙏✝
When there is a quote from someone can you show it in the screen
Honestly, I am a hermit. Hah. Didn't you know?
People need poetry, essentially, due to censorship, no? ;))
😊
It's not difficult at all discovering what God wants from you.
Here's the rule. Ask him.
He will not withold andwering an earnest pray. 1
God will always tell you what is best for you.
He wants you to be happy. Don't think because his answer is too good to be true...it's not.
That happiness is God given.
Don't over think. Again just ask.
God will always answer.
Always. Always . Always.
There are millions who never ask Him. So he definitely won't ignore those who do.
Ask and an answer will always be given.
Always.😊😊😊😊😊
Bro I am 26 and still not married to a good woman and want to meet the right woman already. All my relationship attempts have failed and I am getting really worried that I never will meet the right one. I dont want to be a priest or monk or a permanent bachelor. Im lonely and worried. My works have failed and my prayers to meet the right person havent been answered. I feel stuck in this.
His name is Yeshua
Did you take up a name when you were ordained? You did take up something, right?? Read about their own lives and struggles. :)
That is useful to me, and not to you. I'm a hermit, you live in a community... The other thing is useful to both of us...!!
It seems in this community, the main apostlate is the Nun/Bride::Jesus/Bridegroom relationship. No teaching. No nursing. Sticking with "basic nunnning". Back to Early Church basics!
Each order is different and the church has raised up different orders throughout the centuries for the churches and worlds needs. Some are called to live a more contemplative life while others aren’t. Carmelites and Benedictines etc would be the same, very contemplative. Deo Gratias for the diversity God gave us! Gods will for each person is all that matters!
Mmm - yet another TH-camr who claims to know "how God works." “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways.” (Isaiah, 55:8)
Such a blessing that through his Word and sacred Tradition, God has revealed his ways to us and calls us to learn of Him, become one with Him, and to know Him. I'm grateful to God that I can know how He works by following the commandments and teachings He has given His children
Damn she beautiful.
Strive for purity in speech, brother.