Agreed! I love the when they sprinkle dry humor and satire in their videos. Btw, I’ve been watching a lot of your channel lately. Your Honda Insight coverage is unmatched.
In Germany, the depreciation is actually surprisingly low. I can get a used Taycan or EQS cheaper than a used e-tron GT. But I'm sure this will change after the 3-4 year leases end and the market gets spammed. And generally speaking, EV depreciation is unfortunately very low compared to ICEs. A 3 year old Tesla Model 3 (50k car) costs as much as a 3 year old E300e (80k+ car).
@DominikLH can't compare tesla residuals with other EVs though. They are the only ones people actually want en masse. Taycan/EQS are the only competitors right now
@@mouisehay930 My Next door dealer is selling a 2018 E-Golf base model with 30 k km for 28.000 €. It was like 35k new? I thought they were joking when I saw that sign. This car gets like 100 km real world range lol.
I'm glad SG put some much R&D into Mark's AI, since he has now passed. The new version of him featured in this video is still a bit buggy and doesn't always give a coherent response, but it's much improved from previous videos. Thanks SG.
@@Tempsho yes! Excellent. I wanted to at least drive their e-tron but the new X5M has me far more jealous.....and I think that is what this couple is going for anyway haha
As an owner of a 2019 Audi e-tron (regular), which I got 2nd hand 1 year ago, I really don’t see why it’s such a major problem to plug in often. It’s still a lot more convenient than having to go to gas stations, let alone pay a fortune for the gas (I have solar). And as you hinted at with Audi, the real world range on long drives is way better than what they advertise. I’ve now done several road trips where I have gotten 290 miles on a charge despite the car supposedly maxing out at 209m. This compared to my 2020 Model Y Long Range, which advertised 330, but rarely ever got more than 220. The fact that Audi has their suspension tuned so well, makes the regular e-tron feel very solid, exceedingly comfortable, and a great balance of ride and handling, despite its insane weight.
Hi, work at an Audi store. These are great cars to drive…for their short range. Currently they are probably the highest discounted car in the USA right now when you build out a lease for one and even then we struggle to move them.
@@evildrizzt1 Still very much _not_ worth the pricetag, lol. But ranked as a percentage of WhatItsWorth/WhatItCosts, yeah, it's probably the best Audi. Better than E-tron at least
I saw one of these lowered with aftermarket wheels at the Walmart in Round Lake of all places. I thought what type of person would buy an expensive car like that and make it look like garbage...then I saw how much they are used and it all made sense.
You would have to get rid of these wheels. Look at them. Hideous. The rest of the vehicle looks like they talked to designers of the Barbie car as well.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 It's funny how the mini moved the speedometer to the middle, nobody cared, then Tesla did it and all the reviewers said "I have to look over to see the speed..."
Buy used, most EVs depreciate at least 50% pretty quickly. I picked up an ‘21 XC40 EV from a BMW dealer with 21K and 27 months of new car warranty left for $35k ( orig msrp $62k ). The downside is that super steep depreciation will slow but continue. Public EV charging is not mature, so that part of the experience is burdensome. If you regularly drive over 180 miles at a time, a 10%-80% high speed charge session can absorb about 35-40 min.
Another toy for the Elites that believe they're saving the planet. When the batteries and motor dies, I'd buy this car from the scrap yard and drop in a LSX!
Jack and Mark consistently produce the best car reviews available on TH-cam. So many of the other reviewers release shallow fanboy puff pieces. SavageGeese provides well-informed, objective (and occasionally brutally honest) automotive journalism with a healthy dose of wry humor. This sort of high caliber professionalism seems vanishingly rare in the media space these days. They certainly deserve many, many more followers. Thanks, guys. Keep it up! ps Jack, my wife thinks you look like my long lost brother, you rakishly handsome devil.
We cross-shopped this against the Taycan. Our local Audi dealer was so proud of it, they wouldn't allow a test drive, so we ordered a Taycan Turbo. No regrets. I've driven 270 miles on a charge, stopping with roughly 24 miles remaining to charge for 20 minutes. The car charges so quickly, it's tough to order and eat a fast food meal, and take a quick restroom break before the car is ready to go. They're not the perfect vehicle for every use case, but for ours the Taycan excels...and I'm confident the e-tron GT would as well. We plug into the 50a in the garage once every five days or so, and the car is charged in the morning. We've saved a lot of time not pumping gas. The car will charge at about 24 miles/hour in the garage...at 1/3 the cost of gasoline...not that anyone spends this kind of money to save on fuel.
I was just looking At one now. 60k buget and looks like Im finding some for 67k ish But i wait 1-2 more months. Hoping to get one lol 60k seems pretty fair.
@@AndreiCazan-xw1fh plug the vin into your insurance for one of these. I was blown away by the insurance costs of a chevrolet bolt compared to an ICE car.
LMAO at the pacemaker incident & eulogy. "..a man who brought several people enormous joy..." LOL. This is one of the unique joys of SavageGeese car reviews.
Own one and love it. Yes it’s ridiculously expensive and that’s why you lease it (and go to brokers not the dealership!). It’s better than the Taycan (and had one before this), because it’s a little more chilled out and the most important part: it’s rare compared to taycan’s and model s vehicles everywhere. Will say that the lucid is very intriguing
If you are doing it right, a lease is the best way to get a vehicle. You just got understand the math and the available liquidity (ie inventory and how long that vehicle sits on a lot). If you do it right, you get car leases 50-60% off (vs going into a dealership)
Last to review? One always save the best for last! Love the short and sweet analysis with the interior reviews, mechanical (electrical?) analysis is always spot on. Even cars that I have no interest in, like this Audi, has me watching. Keep it up, but watch your PSA levels...
Great review; as usual. I believe you are bang-on on most points. We have 3,000 miles on our 2023 e-tron GT and we LOVE the driving dynamics, styling and interior. Yes, range could be better but we are fortunate here in Quebec to have a well established fast charging infrastructure. Our Electrify Canada experience has been very good. The only downside is the car's fair share of gremlins including a TMCU which falls into 3G mode too often and a now-resolved brake booster failure. There are 2 pending safety recalls on this model presently: The heat pump (no fix announced) and possibly the shared Taycan/e-tron GT safety recall on some VIN's for the battery sealing. Once we get those two matters resolved - I'm sure we will thoroughly enjoy our ownership experience.
The 2022 models have depreciated to 60k on auto trader. That is pretty good. Wait 1 or 2 more years and it is a great deal. Edit: That is the non-RS model. Still not terrible.
Honestly the RS variant might be overkill for this product, and also the pricing is very optimistic given the Taycan exists. The best way to enjoy the e-tron GT is to get the basic model with quattro AWD - you get all the great looks, softer suspension setup over the Taycan and as Mark said, all the great typical Audi usability aspects of the car day in day out.
If I had this kind of money to spend on a vehicle, I wouldn't use it to buy a vehicle, lol. But yes, if the choice is pick your EV from Germany, the answer is Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo, no question.
I would go for a regular Lucid Air, that car is just so well engineered and thought out, not to mention the fit and finish is pretty incredible (like almost zero hard interior plastics even on the steering column).
I drove this at the Oak Brook EV event over the weekend - I think it might’ve been the exact same car, it had Michigan plates and same color! Drives fantastic- I don’t care about range, it’s total weekend show off car, but agree it feels more like an $80k car not $150k. For a 100+, I’d stick with an S class
Great to get a review from you guys, it's on my shopping list. The leasing pricing is very competitive over here in Germany - 0.5 x a comparable Taycan. Compared to the Lucid it's a bargain. I would never buy it though only on the used market. Taycans are holding their value extraordinary over here - the Audi´s don't.
Because you're savagegeese, this is the first time I've heard about this car. I don't trust a single word any other reviewer says. You guys are as real as it gets.
@@1SmokingLizard Was it a manufacturer buyback? Many of these cars (Both Taycan & e-tron GT) got lemon-lawed during the past few years due to parts shortages.
Whats the inconvenience of 200mi range in this particular car and price point though? Those same people are driving about 30mi a day and have many other choices in their garage.
@@aussie2uGAThe EPA Range is highly inaccurate. The real world range on this and the taycan is around 300 at 70mph and 250 at 80mph. Out of spec road trips the taycan a lot
Thoughts from an RS etron GT owner…frunk holds a normal roller bag and is plenty useful. Lots of us with level 2 chargers at home charge to 80%. The Lucid - I think these are great cars but the dealer and service network is completely non existent in vast swaths of the country so the comparison is a non starter for many of us. Plus you need to step up to the 800hp Gran touring to out perform and out range the Taycan/eTron and those are unicorns. Lastly, as many others have pointed out, you get these things slightly used for a massive discount. Totally agree that the MSRP for a new one is ridiculous.
This is why I watch Savagegeese videos: They're fairly standard issue till they're not, and when they're not they're so fucking weird that you can't help but love them.
For the price yeah, but if this could be had for $100K the fast charging makes up for not having 500 miles. The Taycan/E-Tron GT actually performed very well in long distance tours.
Just on handling, this non-rs or base/4s taycan? Given the huge depreciation, used market is becoming really attractive to enjoy for a few years before switching to something updated. The inflated msrp settles down nicely on the used market.
I remember being super hyped for this car when they started teasing it, but that was with an expectation it would start around like $70K rather than $100K+. Not that its a bad car, but its $30K more than it should be imo. At least theyre rapidly depreciating! I bought my current A6 for rougly 1/6th of its original MSRP after 8 years of depreciation, and I might be able to do the same with one of these in 5 years...
Having owned a Bolt for the past 2 years, I can count on my two hands the number of times I charged to full. This is literally not an issue for almost anyone, not even for me and my extremely slow DCFC limits.
It's only a limitation if you have a 200 mile round trip commute in the winter or something outrageous like that. Heaps of range is nice to have, but realistically is not worth paying heaps of money for it. I think most EV leasers who buy these 400+ mile range cars will probably hit a moment of realization that they've never even come close to utilizing the entire range - even on a roadtrip chances are you're going to need to stop to use a bathroom near a charger twice before you can even drive 400 miles.
Recently commented on another EV video- why harp on MSRP pricing on a car that is pretty much a lease-only proposition subsidized by federal incentives, Audi incentives, Costco discounts and dealer discounts?
Feels like we're in the early '80s for electric cars. They're functional, but just not quite... there. Something about most of 'em is compromised. Range, user interface, charging infrastructure, over the air update shenanigans, etc. Just like buying a performance vehicle back then - they will get better, but as they are... they're a little, well, sad. And the ones that do seem better, they're in another ballpark financially. Rivian, Rimarc, not anything that I can afford without the aid of powerball. Tesla is closest, but their issues with repairability, over the air updates, stupid design choices, and fit and finish still keep me away.
Man these videos are great. I was really hoping we'd get a little cameo of our old frand ToDDD laying an empty McRib box on your tombstone Mark... Missed opportunity for sure.
I have not been in a GT RS, but have been in a GT and it is certainly overpriced for what it is. This should have been like a $90K car. I actually have the Audi Etron and to me, that has been a perfect blend of EV, drive and Luxury for the price I got it for.
As always you bring up some fundamental questions, as a reputable OEM they can build a car but with BEVS there is a new philosophy where the integrated architecture is key. With legacy manufacturers there is an overlap and at 150k for 250 mile hops before topping up at an increasing KWH cost is IMO is just not worth it. Lose money and convenience by an order of magnitude, keep it reel mark and jack👍🏻
I’m perplexed why auto journalist keep talking about EVs when they appear to be slumping in sales. All car sales are slumping, but EVs appear to be even more so. So why do they get so much attention? Not a criticism of SG, just the market and journalism in general.
This car depreciated by 50% during your test drive and demo.
Seriously… a RS7 costs less, doesn’t make sense
Real
Year old RS E-Trons can easily depreciate by more than 25% here in Canada.
@@Briggsian I’m in Canada and can see wholesale results. They seriously tank in value and I see them sitting on new car lots with big discounts.
@@BriggsianI’ve seen 50% depreciation in 1 year. There’s a shitload of them ( GT) on Audi Certified lots. Seems like no one wants them.
The dedication to Mark was pure gold.
I almost spit my morning coffee out from holding back guffaws.
The diarrhea link really was the cherry on top
sarc done right
Matt Christman reference
brought a tear to my eye
This is far more than a car channel. Well done. I come here for the satirical commentary on life and culture.
Yes indeed 🤓
Agreed! I love the when they sprinkle dry humor and satire in their videos. Btw, I’ve been watching a lot of your channel lately. Your Honda Insight coverage is unmatched.
@@chrisminnig7144 Glad you are enjoying them.
It’s very lacking in the rest of the car review industry!
Like all luxury EVs the depreciation is particularly brutal. 2022 models can be found for nearly 80K…after 1 year.
In Germany, the depreciation is actually surprisingly low. I can get a used Taycan or EQS cheaper than a used e-tron GT. But I'm sure this will change after the 3-4 year leases end and the market gets spammed.
And generally speaking, EV depreciation is unfortunately very low compared to ICEs. A 3 year old Tesla Model 3 (50k car) costs as much as a 3 year old E300e (80k+ car).
@DominikLH can't compare tesla residuals with other EVs though. They are the only ones people actually want en masse. Taycan/EQS are the only competitors right now
Electric cars are the cell phones of the Automotive world.
@@mouisehay930 My Next door dealer is selling a 2018 E-Golf base model with 30 k km for 28.000 €. It was like 35k new? I thought they were joking when I saw that sign. This car gets like 100 km real world range lol.
Good to know. Gonna get me a used Air.
I'm glad SG put some much R&D into Mark's AI, since he has now passed. The new version of him featured in this video is still a bit buggy and doesn't always give a coherent response, but it's much improved from previous videos. Thanks SG.
You need to click harder.
After millions and millions of views, likes, and times on the porcelain throne, Mark only brought joy to several people. Hero. A hero is what that is
My neighbors just ditched their etron. It was a brief ownership. There is now a BMW X5M with their "MYETRON" vanity plate sitting on the driveway.
Somebody should get a plate that says ‘MEHTRON’
EV owners register their car without a corny vanity plate challenge (impossible)
@@Tempsho yes! Excellent. I wanted to at least drive their e-tron but the new X5M has me far more jealous.....and I think that is what this couple is going for anyway haha
@@RatBürgerSk8 no doubt. 2 other neighbors with Tesla model S plates "YMMV" and "NO2GAS" 🙄 clowns
@@Bigern2998If this something that’ll yank peoples’ chain, I gotta do it too 😆
As an owner of a 2019 Audi e-tron (regular), which I got 2nd hand 1 year ago, I really don’t see why it’s such a major problem to plug in often. It’s still a lot more convenient than having to go to gas stations, let alone pay a fortune for the gas (I have solar). And as you hinted at with Audi, the real world range on long drives is way better than what they advertise. I’ve now done several road trips where I have gotten 290 miles on a charge despite the car supposedly maxing out at 209m. This compared to my 2020 Model Y Long Range, which advertised 330, but rarely ever got more than 220. The fact that Audi has their suspension tuned so well, makes the regular e-tron feel very solid, exceedingly comfortable, and a great balance of ride and handling, despite its insane weight.
What could be more appropriate for Mark's eulogy than a diatribe on the wonders of the glorious Corvette.
Hi, work at an Audi store. These are great cars to drive…for their short range. Currently they are probably the highest discounted car in the USA right now when you build out a lease for one and even then we struggle to move them.
If they sell me one at $60k, maybe I'll buy one
It's an 800-900/month lease they're trying to get, what, 2000/month for? Good luck.
@@bassandtrebleclef just kidding no thanks .I love my model 3
The EPA ranger is low but the usable range is much higher. The Taycan and this can get almost 300 miles on the highway at 70 and 250 at 80
give me $34 a month
0:35 "... arguably the best looking Audi product sold other than the R8"
_RS6 Avant has entered the chat_
The only Audi that’s worth the pricetag in my opinion.
Nah
Honestly looks like an Accord 👎
@@evildrizzt1
Still very much _not_ worth the pricetag, lol. But ranked as a percentage of WhatItsWorth/WhatItCosts, yeah, it's probably the best Audi. Better than E-tron at least
Best looking? The lines not elegant at all
I saw one of these lowered with aftermarket wheels at the Walmart in Round Lake of all places. I thought what type of person would buy an expensive car like that and make it look like garbage...then I saw how much they are used and it all made sense.
You would have to get rid of these wheels. Look at them. Hideous. The rest of the vehicle looks like they talked to designers of the Barbie car as well.
I always appreciate a new car with the infotainment display integrated into the dash.
Even my Mini Cooper has the infotainment integrated into the dash.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 It's funny how the mini moved the speedometer to the middle, nobody cared, then Tesla did it and all the reviewers said "I have to look over to see the speed..."
@@aussie2uGA The original 60's Mini always had the speedo in the center. But today it's back behind the steering wheel.
Yes!!! This is over looked however to me that’s the only way to do it, it’s very cohesive when integrated into the dash.
@@aussie2uGA They brought it back in front of the wheel because it was annoying AF.
You may be the last people to do a review on a car, but you're the first I'd choose to watch.
Got to be kidding me at $150k. Absolutely insane!...
Buy used, most EVs depreciate at least 50% pretty quickly.
I picked up an ‘21 XC40 EV from a BMW dealer with 21K and 27 months of new car warranty left for $35k ( orig msrp $62k ).
The downside is that super steep depreciation will slow but continue.
Public EV charging is not mature, so that part of the experience is burdensome.
If you regularly drive over 180 miles at a time, a 10%-80% high speed charge session can absorb about 35-40 min.
Another toy for the Elites that believe they're saving the planet. When the batteries and motor dies, I'd buy this car from the scrap yard and drop in a LSX!
Jack and Mark consistently produce the best car reviews available on TH-cam. So many of the other reviewers release shallow fanboy puff pieces. SavageGeese provides well-informed, objective (and occasionally brutally honest) automotive journalism with a healthy dose of wry humor. This sort of high caliber professionalism seems vanishingly rare in the media space these days. They certainly deserve many, many more followers. Thanks, guys. Keep it up! ps Jack, my wife thinks you look like my long lost brother, you rakishly handsome devil.
Very funny guys. Love these weird little interludes, gives Mark a chance to be creative in a new way.
We cross-shopped this against the Taycan. Our local Audi dealer was so proud of it, they wouldn't allow a test drive, so we ordered a Taycan Turbo. No regrets. I've driven 270 miles on a charge, stopping with roughly 24 miles remaining to charge for 20 minutes. The car charges so quickly, it's tough to order and eat a fast food meal, and take a quick restroom break before the car is ready to go.
They're not the perfect vehicle for every use case, but for ours the Taycan excels...and I'm confident the e-tron GT would as well. We plug into the 50a in the garage once every five days or so, and the car is charged in the morning. We've saved a lot of time not pumping gas. The car will charge at about 24 miles/hour in the garage...at 1/3 the cost of gasoline...not that anyone spends this kind of money to save on fuel.
Absolutely LOVE this car. I’ve test driven them a few times. And every time I do, I walk away. Just can’t justify the price.
It’s really shocking you can find these on the used market for 60 to 70 K The depreciation on these are crazy
I was just looking At one now. 60k buget and looks like Im finding some for 67k ish But i wait 1-2 more months. Hoping to get one lol 60k seems pretty fair.
@@AndreiCazan-xw1fh plug the vin into your insurance for one of these. I was blown away by the insurance costs of a chevrolet bolt compared to an ICE car.
@@lanekrarupthat's possibly because they are known to catch on fire. Even if it's fixed I wouldn't be surprised if that's a factor.
Mark will truly be missed. He was the George Costanza of car youtubers.
LMAO at the pacemaker incident & eulogy. "..a man who brought several people enormous joy..." LOL. This is one of the unique joys of SavageGeese car reviews.
I like how Mark criticizes so professionally and where it needs to be improved. Not many car TH-camrs are like this.
Own one and love it. Yes it’s ridiculously expensive and that’s why you lease it (and go to brokers not the dealership!). It’s better than the Taycan (and had one before this), because it’s a little more chilled out and the most important part: it’s rare compared to taycan’s and model s vehicles everywhere. Will say that the lucid is very intriguing
Ah, yes, the important part is not looking like everyone else
“The lease (fleece) is the cigarette of financial products” - me
Horrible choice buying this POS.
If you are doing it right, a lease is the best way to get a vehicle. You just got understand the math and the available liquidity (ie inventory and how long that vehicle sits on a lot). If you do it right, you get car leases 50-60% off (vs going into a dealership)
Last to review? One always save the best for last! Love the short and sweet analysis with the interior reviews, mechanical (electrical?) analysis is always spot on. Even cars that I have no interest in, like this Audi, has me watching. Keep it up, but watch your PSA levels...
I so appreciate your humor, film making skills, product knowledge, irreverence and analysis.
Mark, did you see a bright light at the end of that corridor you found your self in as you passed into the great beyond? Loved the eulogy, Jack.
Great review; as usual. I believe you are bang-on on most points. We have 3,000 miles on our 2023 e-tron GT and we LOVE the driving dynamics, styling and interior. Yes, range could be better but we are fortunate here in Quebec to have a well established fast charging infrastructure. Our Electrify Canada experience has been very good. The only downside is the car's fair share of gremlins including a TMCU which falls into 3G mode too often and a now-resolved brake booster failure. There are 2 pending safety recalls on this model presently: The heat pump (no fix announced) and possibly the shared Taycan/e-tron GT safety recall on some VIN's for the battery sealing. Once we get those two matters resolved - I'm sure we will thoroughly enjoy our ownership experience.
Sounds like a Ford e-tron to me. Welcome to recall land 😂
My c-max seems to have an annual recall on something. I think the dealer just misses me 😂
I've been cross shopping this and the Chevy Bolt. I think the decision is clear now.
The 2022 models have depreciated to 60k on auto trader. That is pretty good. Wait 1 or 2 more years and it is a great deal.
Edit: That is the non-RS model. Still not terrible.
Honestly the RS variant might be overkill for this product, and also the pricing is very optimistic given the Taycan exists. The best way to enjoy the e-tron GT is to get the basic model with quattro AWD - you get all the great looks, softer suspension setup over the Taycan and as Mark said, all the great typical Audi usability aspects of the car day in day out.
I absolutely love how they have leaned into making these videos to amuse themselves. It’s awesome!
Neighbor had it for about a year. He liked the power, but was very critical on the breaks that were not up to the weight and speed of the car.
Says no one ever about carbon/ceramic BRAKES.
@@aaronbrown6266 I guess he did not have ceramic breaks
Please. BRAKES.@@matusknives
If I had this kind of money to spend on a vehicle it would easily be the Porsche
If I had this kind of money to spend on a vehicle, I wouldn't use it to buy a vehicle, lol.
But yes, if the choice is pick your EV from Germany, the answer is Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo, no question.
I'd go get a 2013 audi S8 plus. No ev needed
Between the two electric vehicles
ide buy land
I would go for a regular Lucid Air, that car is just so well engineered and thought out, not to mention the fit and finish is pretty incredible (like almost zero hard interior plastics even on the steering column).
The thought that went into this video is so much more than what this car deserves.
The color grade on this one is pure bliss
I drove this at the Oak Brook EV event over the weekend - I think it might’ve been the exact same car, it had Michigan plates and same color! Drives fantastic- I don’t care about range, it’s total weekend show off car, but agree it feels more like an $80k car not $150k. For a 100+, I’d stick with an S class
The last 75 seconds.... Might be your best work yet. Mark, is that Mrs. Goose?
Entertaining as always! Thanks for setting the mood for this Friday !
£133,000 retail in UK, 4 months old 3,000 miles . £76,000. 50% off the top.
Great to get a review from you guys, it's on my shopping list. The leasing pricing is very competitive over here in Germany - 0.5 x a comparable Taycan. Compared to the Lucid it's a bargain. I would never buy it though only on the used market. Taycans are holding their value extraordinary over here - the Audi´s don't.
Taycans are holding their value extraordinary over here - the Audi´s don't.
Stuttgart vs Saxony in a nutshell.
Taycan also losing value rapidly in the US. Various factors described by here. th-cam.com/video/ozyCpas56ng/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0bolb2UJBax8pWOq
In US, neither the Etron nor the Taycan hold their value. After initial lease up, no one wants them.
@@alexnutcasio936
It's not that no-one wants them (people do want them, especially the Taycan), they're just overpriced new
@@CrazyWeeMonkeyIt's ugly
Because you're savagegeese, this is the first time I've heard about this car. I don't trust a single word any other reviewer says. You guys are as real as it gets.
Rest in peace, Mike, I will never forget you
When you realize that this car is slightly longer than the Lucid Air and you compare interior and storage space, it seems ridiculous
I saw a 2021 Taycan S with 2600 miles for $68K.
that's surprising where at?
@@papa_ptAt the auction
@@1SmokingLizard Was it a manufacturer buyback?
Many of these cars (Both Taycan & e-tron GT) got lemon-lawed during the past few years due to parts shortages.
For $160K+ I refuse to be inconvenienced. People who are buying this are probably in bed by 8:00pm or 8:15pm at the latest and don't care about range.
Whats the inconvenience of 200mi range in this particular car and price point though? Those same people are driving about 30mi a day and have many other choices in their garage.
@@aussie2uGAThe EPA Range is highly inaccurate. The real world range on this and the taycan is around 300 at 70mph and 250 at 80mph. Out of spec road trips the taycan a lot
Thoughts from an RS etron GT owner…frunk holds a normal roller bag and is plenty useful. Lots of us with level 2 chargers at home charge to 80%. The Lucid - I think these are great cars but the dealer and service network is completely non existent in vast swaths of the country so the comparison is a non starter for many of us. Plus you need to step up to the 800hp Gran touring to out perform and out range the Taycan/eTron and those are unicorns. Lastly, as many others have pointed out, you get these things slightly used for a massive discount. Totally agree that the MSRP for a new one is ridiculous.
I am really enjoying the AI lore aspect of recent videos.
I love how good the production value is
1:45 I’m dying laughing because I noticed the song on the infotainment screen. 😂😂😂 I literally rewound the video to to make sure 😂
This is why I watch Savagegeese videos: They're fairly standard issue till they're not, and when they're not they're so fucking weird that you can't help but love them.
You may be the last one to do a video on it, but you're the first one I'm watching on it.
Ooof 200-240 mile range is ridiculous especially for the price
For the price yeah, but if this could be had for $100K the fast charging makes up for not having 500 miles. The Taycan/E-Tron GT actually performed very well in long distance tours.
I was truly moved by the inspired by Life Events section. I always knew Mark was a big deal, now we have proof.
Just on handling, this non-rs or base/4s taycan?
Given the huge depreciation, used market is becoming really attractive to enjoy for a few years before switching to something updated. The inflated msrp settles down nicely on the used market.
I remember being super hyped for this car when they started teasing it, but that was with an expectation it would start around like $70K rather than $100K+. Not that its a bad car, but its $30K more than it should be imo.
At least theyre rapidly depreciating! I bought my current A6 for rougly 1/6th of its original MSRP after 8 years of depreciation, and I might be able to do the same with one of these in 5 years...
Finally a gorgeous looking car from Germany
I gotta give this one thing to Audi - They know how to design cars in elegant, sleek beauty. (Kinda like when Colani fixes Volkswagen Bauhaus, haha.)
Having owned a Bolt for the past 2 years, I can count on my two hands the number of times I charged to full. This is literally not an issue for almost anyone, not even for me and my extremely slow DCFC limits.
It's only a limitation if you have a 200 mile round trip commute in the winter or something outrageous like that. Heaps of range is nice to have, but realistically is not worth paying heaps of money for it. I think most EV leasers who buy these 400+ mile range cars will probably hit a moment of realization that they've never even come close to utilizing the entire range - even on a roadtrip chances are you're going to need to stop to use a bathroom near a charger twice before you can even drive 400 miles.
@@0hypnotoad0 Yeah, if you have a regular 200-mile commute though, time to reassess how you are living life.
Love the sense of humor 😂
This was epic. RIP Mark.
You can get massive discounts on these. About $800/ month zero down leases here in NJ (no sales tax). That’s not a wrong price at all.
I could have commented the eulogy was the best part but the epilogue stole it😂😂😂😂
That eulogy was perfect. All that was missing was a score by Ennio Morricone
Wow, those skits (including the post credits) were hilarious!
I think this is one of the coolest looking cars I've ever seen. Shame I'll never be able to afford it.
Depreciation will help your dreams.
Great car , nice 👍🏻 vid . The only problem with this one and the taycan are the price points . At 100k ok , they really do drive incredible
Oh my goodness gracious! Thank goodness our Mark is ok. Ooofffffff. Bless his heart ❤️
I love the link to the Diarrhea Explained video at 3:30 when Mark dies 😂
NGL, I really like those wheels. Would love to put them on my 98 Sentra.
For that big Sentra energy? 😂
@@hondahirnyeSentra, go faster than an eMail
Recently commented on another EV video- why harp on MSRP pricing on a car that is pretty much a lease-only proposition subsidized by federal incentives, Audi incentives, Costco discounts and dealer discounts?
Feels like we're in the early '80s for electric cars. They're functional, but just not quite... there.
Something about most of 'em is compromised. Range, user interface, charging infrastructure, over the air update shenanigans, etc.
Just like buying a performance vehicle back then - they will get better, but as they are... they're a little, well, sad.
And the ones that do seem better, they're in another ballpark financially. Rivian, Rimarc, not anything that I can afford without the aid of powerball.
Tesla is closest, but their issues with repairability, over the air updates, stupid design choices, and fit and finish still keep me away.
you guys are so unabashedly midwest i love it. great video.
Here just for the channel. These EVs in relaity bore the hell out of me. Good review
Thanks!
Knock off $100,00 and you're getting close.
What a touching tribute to Mark! I honestly got teary. Let me know if his X7 needs a new home…
I really enjoyed suggested video about diarrhea with great commentary and cool 3-D animation
RIP Mark🙏🕊
bring on the depreciation baby. daddy needs a sweet ass used EV in the garage.
Man these videos are great. I was really hoping we'd get a little cameo of our old frand ToDDD laying an empty McRib box on your tombstone Mark... Missed opportunity for sure.
That ending is flippin' hilarious.
Better than driving an Audi!
which vehicle where you referring to at 13:02?
The last bit was soooo good too
12:39 -- Clean old Firebird caught Mark's eye... good potential stablemate for the Z06.
Thanks for the video recommendation at around 3:30 😂
Holy shit, the dedication to mark part and the end was SO fucking good :D The ai voice killed me lmao
The machines have begun their offensive! Mark will go down as the first of many casualties. RIP to a true hero of humanity.
I’ll stick with an RS7 for now
Cool idea but I’ll take the ICE 😊
I have not been in a GT RS, but have been in a GT and it is certainly overpriced for what it is. This should have been like a $90K car. I actually have the Audi Etron and to me, that has been a perfect blend of EV, drive and Luxury for the price I got it for.
"This is a transitionary vehicle... like every EV"
So funny because its true
Glad i went BRZ this yr
As always you bring up some fundamental questions, as a reputable OEM they can build a car but with BEVS there is a new philosophy where the integrated architecture is key. With legacy manufacturers there is an overlap and at 150k for 250 mile hops before topping up at an increasing KWH cost is IMO is just not worth it. Lose money and convenience by an order of magnitude, keep it reel mark and jack👍🏻
Loving the ev videos out of savagegeese. Thanks for the great reviews guys!
The death montage was beautiful. Thanks for making a review about this generic, overpriced disposable car interesting at least.
Mark's memorial was sheer brilliance!!! LOL
Pretty cool of Mark to come back and finish the video after he died like that. What a guy.
I’m perplexed why auto journalist keep talking about EVs when they appear to be slumping in sales. All car sales are slumping, but EVs appear to be even more so. So why do they get so much attention? Not a criticism of SG, just the market and journalism in general.
May God rest Mark's soul. He was the best of us when it came to utter and complete sarcasm. No one will know his likeness
The ending of this video is epic :)
For that amount of $, just give me a new Corvette Z06, great video.
Probably the best looking EV out there.