Been riding my T1500/T1550 for over two years now with a variety of Hyper wheels. What's crazy is even after 4 years of being on the market, this frame is still the best over all the other affordable Chinese frames. It's the only frame I can't see myself selling. And I own the latest Giant Propel and Allez Sprint. Great video kind sir.
I just love the ride position, feels great. Cannot wait to put some proper miles down on it in the Spring. Glad to hear there are other people who like the set up so much.
G'Day Patrick, I was just wondering how the T1550 stacks up against the Tavelo (which I already have). I am thinking of getting a new frame. Thanks mate
@@vietnguyen4312 The T1500 is more aero, more aggressive geometry, and heavier. The Attack is more of an all-around frame with the geometry, and is lighter.
@@PatrickLino Thanks Patrick, the geometry looks similar on paper but the frame is definitely more aero. I may wait until they are on sale again and I might invest in one. Thanks again
Yeah i love those- i have those for my rim brake bike and crushed a few hills on them and will most likely use that as my hill climb racing bike this summer.
Great build, mate! Yeah I agree. Riding a bike that you like, that you think looks cool (and I think it looks cool too), makes a HUGE difference to your motivation for riding. Whether you ride for exercise, fun, or profession, having a bike that you enjoy riding is great. Wish I had the cash to build my own carbon bike like this. Settled for a 2nd hand 2014 Boardman SLR 9.8 off facebook marketplace, ha. Absolute DREAM to ride, and I feel cool when riding it.
Nice to see that you’re happy with your new bike and I totally agree with you that the most important thing is how you feel when you’re riding your bike 🙂 Being 57 years old and sort of done with my racing days I now chase the feeling of the ride. That’s why I am building a steel frame bike for my main bike, but seeing and enjoying your video my next build might just be a Chinese aero frame bike 🙂
I certainly think building up your own custom ride makes the whole experience a lot more enjoyable. Definitely makes me excited to head out and ride. What frame are you going with?
@@thewattlife I have bought a Standert Triebwerk (Blue Orchid). It’s a classic steel frame with a modern twist as all cables are hidden 🙂 Have got all parts now and will soon start the build and making a video of this!
I have one coming in March with the staggered D45 wheelset. Putting on a 105 Di2 and cannot wait to take it out for a rip. This video makes me so stoked on my decision!
Beautiful bike! I built up my own bike based on a custom titanium frame last spring (and upgraded it to 105 Di2 at Christmas) and absolutely love it. It looks great, is comfortable to ride, and is pretty darned quick as well. It puts a smile on my face every time I ride it, and knowing that I designed the frame, chose all the parts, and put it all together myself makes it even better. And of course, I know that no one will ever show up at a group ride with the exact same bike, and there's something to be said for that too. 😁
Would love to build up a titanium bike, ive seen some really nice ones at events. Im all about having a custom bike set up, think it really just makes the whole bike experience more enjoyable
Max, you took the time to research parts, to understand what you didn't like/want in your old bike, sort out the fit etc. It is not a casual exercise, so no surprise that your new steed feels good. But I have to agree, the reward for the time and effort, when you first ride a new build and it lays rest to that little bit of anxiety that chips away at you a little saying ' what if it rides real bad ' is quite euphoric - as well it should be. When you do get out on it in earnest, watch the weather this time of year, but also watch the handling especially the cornering. The deep section wheels may behave quite differently, although good modern designs handle crosswinds very well these days, feel your way a little bit. Also from what you have described , your weight balance will be different between the wheels compared to your old bike, again this will make cornering and to that matter braking a little different especially when first turning in to a corner at speed. It took me about 200 miles to fathom my new build last year, some big surprises for me but all good. IRL challenge... back to imperial and the holy grail of a good club cyclist back in the day... 1hr 25 mile solo TT on a there and back route.... preferably without a dual carriageway!! ( Those wheels will be epically quick, probably second biggest aero gain on any bike second to your actual position)
Thanks man- it was a lot of fun to ride but yes, the weight distribution makes it feel like a whole different riding experience to what I’m used to. Going to spend a whole load of time practising some short sharp turns before I think about taking it Crit racing so that I feel way more comfortable on it.
i've just done the same thing and upgraded to disc, so was looking out for frame costs. For the spec I wanted, I couldn't get much change out of £7k, so started looking at alternatives. Hambini reviews the T1500 in detail and rates Winspace, the US and Asia markets race on the wheels and frames and now they sponsor a 2nd tier womens cycling team, so they are a real challenger brand when it comes to sub-£4k builds. I think mine was around £3.5k to build, which includes frame, wheels and bars from Winspace, plus BB, saddle, bar tape, cages and Ultega Di2 groupset. Waiting to ride when the weather is a bit better, but looking forward to that. What i will say is that it looks better than my old aero bike (Giant Propel SL) and is sneaking under the weight of that with an XL frame (equivalent to a 58cm/Giant L). Thanks for the review, looks great.
Good to know and great cost- think all in mine might have been a bit closer to 4k but still a far cry from some of the bikes on the market at the moment which far in a similar carbon spec bracket
Yeah, maybe something for them to think about certainly. But the more expensive frames are responsible for a lot of the RandD which has lead to other brands making frames so well and at a cheaper price. The pro series will always be at the forefront of revolutionising bike design but saying that, i shouldnt imagine anyone will be calling me to ride in the tour this year so im more than happy with a frame like this.
Everything was ordered over the internet and email- so Winspace website and then emailing their info@winspace.com email. And then js_cycles and emailing Josh about the group set josh@jscycleshack.com
That looks awesome, I might go the same route when I upgrade to disc brakes. You should really work on getting the saddle level, makes you much more balanced and comfortable. Maybe try a different saddle one with a cutout? Maybe Selle Italia SLR or Flite if they fit you.
Saddles are just so expensive- I am trying to get hold of a 3d printed one. I always like to have a little bit of an angle on it- mines only -1 at the moment.
Amazing I have been using winspace wheels for about 2-3 years and I just got the bars about 1-2 months ago. Quick question what top cap are you using? yours seems to sit nicely inside... mine kind of sits ontop of mine... i like yours more.. can you measure your top cap ?
I noticed on the bars that there is a small 1mm drop from the top of the space for the steerer tube down to where the top cap is meant to sink so when it came to measuring how much of the fork to cut i added an additional 1mm so i think i ended up cutting 5mm below where i had marked the top of the bars on the fork. This gave me enough room for the top cap to sit inside the space and into thew 1mm gap and pull up onto the bung. Does that make sense? @nemixCOD
@@thewattlife yeah makes sense, I have done similar but my top cap still sits above the ingress of 1mm. So what actually happened was my top cap kinda scuffed the paint / clear coat just around the circle of the 1mm gap.. So I was suspicious that my topcap might be a bit bigger than yours. As yours sits nice. Thanks for replying! hope you enjoy the bike!
Looks awesome mate, what was the weight I may have missed that part 🙈 this makes my next frame choice a little easier now just got to decide between Yoeleo R12 or the Winspace T1550. Thanks for sharing
It is a no brainer. Winspace over Yoeleo for sure. Winspace have there agents all over the world now and you can get help. UCI aprouved and many teams are using it already. I'm tried most of the Vhinese bikes and Winspace is by far the best frame and wheelset maker.
I second this- Winspace have a good distribution network and are big enough to help with support. I had to get a hub body replaced as I bought the wrong one it they sorted it ASAP
I have to agree- you can get a very high level electronic group set on a good frame for well under 10k. I could have put SRAM RED on this if I’d bought it in Dec and it would have been the same price
Hey man long time- so this is a rough breakdown: Winspace T1550, Lun Hyper SE 67' & Zero SL bar/stem for $3270 - this was a bundle package. I paid about £1,750 for a Sram Force D2 AXS with power meter. - This is even cheaper now and id probably get a Sram RED for the same price. Bottom bracket £100. Then pedals, seat etc come from other bikes.
Hello, thank you for your video. What size frame have you chosen? And what are your measurements? Also, what is the length and width of the handlebar? I am 176 cm tall and I'm considering size M with a handlebar of 95 mm in length and 400 mm in width. Thank you!
I have a large frame. Im 181cm, it fits perfectly for me. My bars are 95mm / 380mm. I like narrow bars and again it fits great. I measured up my old frame and made my decisions based on transferring most of these across
@@blakegboi1347 Hi!! In the end, I didn't buy it because I also decided to upgrade the groupset to an Ultegra Di2 12V (I currently have the 11v Ultegra Di2) and I needed to save for a few months. The problem is that now the frame is out of stock in the color I want. Anyway, if it were in stock, I would buy size 470 with the 38cm-95mm handlebar. There is a guy on TH-cam who is 174cm tall and has the same setup, this is his channel: www.youtube.com/@Alexpress83. My only doubt is about the handlebar length, whether 95 or 105mm. If it were 100mm, that's the one I would buy.
I only buy a bike perhaps every 5-8 years on average and am looking to replace my veteran, race battle-hardened SL4 Tarmac. I've decided that I'm happy with putting on some weight if it means a more robust frame and aero. Would love to know people's long-term problems/impressions of this frame.
Putting together a review now I’ve put some good mileage on it. Hopefully out in the next two weeks. I’m also testing another frame from a different company which is more in line with the SL7/8 and honestly- it looks like it’s going to be amazing. Hopefully have more on this soon
@nathanphillips875 Hey man, i have a size L and im 181cm/5'11". I wouldnt want to go any smaller with the frame as this feels perfect and a touch on the shorter side but i have a 95mm stem. Its perfect for what i want to use it for which is hard and fast crits. Yeah i had i think an import take on the frame which was about £70. I believe there is now a distributer in the UK which you might be able to google and find but i dont know how that effects cost.
I have a t1500, ace bike but wish winspace made an inline seatpost so I could put a longer stem on, rather have the 20mm on the stem than the seatpost. Nice bike though! Cover that clamp 😄
I don’t think it’s silly- the braking is better on a disc brake bike. Plus some wheel manufacturers don’t make rim brakes anymore so you are limiting your choice. Weight on some builds can be very similar. ✌🏻✌🏻
I think calling these bikes "chinese" rather than "insert brand name" is getting ridiculous. i mean u went and bought winspace not yoeleo, ican or ... so refer to it by name so we judge just it. not generalize. just saying. nice video though!
That’s a fair point indeed. But riding in the UK you really only see very few an Asian brand bikes, so as an adjective it does give context to the frame. The term has become a colloquialism for some of the particulars from buying direct to consumer with a longer delivery/lead time. Addressing the issue as a whole regarding QC, customer service etc. it’s all included in dealing with overseas brands that factor in to the conversation
Why do we speak about Chinese carbon as if there’s anything else? Aren’t all bikes (few exceptions) manufactured by the Chinese with their Chinese carbon? I think it’s high time we stopped looking down on made in CHina. Because regardless of whatever name or logo you’ve got on your bike, it was made in China.
Stopped watching around 3 mins in when it become kinda clear no price tag was gonna be given … if you gave it after 3 mins then sorry I still couldn’t be arsed to watch longer to find out lol nice looking bike tho
Good point- Winspace were doing the T1550, Lun Hyper SE 67' & Zero SL bar/stem for $3270. I paid about £1,750 for a Sram Force D2 AXS with power meter. - This is even cheaper now! Built this myself so its not a straight forward RRP.
Well i think you have to be realistic and realise that a lot of brands manufacture their frames in the same location. Winspace make really good and reliable carbon frames.
@@thewattlife It's really easy to exercise free will and just choose not to entertain chinese oem products. It takes nothing to have that ethic. Given the pandemc they let loose on Int'l flights out, lives lost, tyrnny over people, crushng of freedoms- it's a no-brainer. We have to start somewhere to prevent them from hijking yet more industries. No westerner who likes freedom and peace should even mention the irrelevant points you made in your reply to me.
Been riding my T1500/T1550 for over two years now with a variety of Hyper wheels. What's crazy is even after 4 years of being on the market, this frame is still the best over all the other affordable Chinese frames. It's the only frame I can't see myself selling. And I own the latest Giant Propel and Allez Sprint. Great video kind sir.
I just love the ride position, feels great. Cannot wait to put some proper miles down on it in the Spring. Glad to hear there are other people who like the set up so much.
G'Day Patrick, I was just wondering how the T1550 stacks up against the Tavelo (which I already have). I am thinking of getting a new frame. Thanks mate
@@vietnguyen4312 The T1500 is more aero, more aggressive geometry, and heavier. The Attack is more of an all-around frame with the geometry, and is lighter.
@@PatrickLino Thanks Patrick, the geometry looks similar on paper but the frame is definitely more aero. I may wait until they are on sale again and I might invest in one. Thanks again
I’ve just put Winspace Hyper R45’s on my 12 yr old Cervélo R5, awesome wheels which have completely transformed the bike, absolutely love them.
Yeah i love those- i have those for my rim brake bike and crushed a few hills on them and will most likely use that as my hill climb racing bike this summer.
Great build, mate! Yeah I agree. Riding a bike that you like, that you think looks cool (and I think it looks cool too), makes a HUGE difference to your motivation for riding. Whether you ride for exercise, fun, or profession, having a bike that you enjoy riding is great. Wish I had the cash to build my own carbon bike like this. Settled for a 2nd hand 2014 Boardman SLR 9.8 off facebook marketplace, ha. Absolute DREAM to ride, and I feel cool when riding it.
I think this is what it's all about. Find a bike you love and ride the hell out of it
Nice to see that you’re happy with your new bike and I totally agree with you that the most important thing is how you feel when you’re riding your bike 🙂 Being 57 years old and sort of done with my racing days I now chase the feeling of the ride. That’s why I am building a steel frame bike for my main bike, but seeing and enjoying your video my next build might just be a Chinese aero frame bike 🙂
I certainly think building up your own custom ride makes the whole experience a lot more enjoyable. Definitely makes me excited to head out and ride. What frame are you going with?
@@thewattlife I have bought a Standert Triebwerk (Blue Orchid). It’s a classic steel frame with a modern twist as all cables are hidden 🙂 Have got all parts now and will soon start the build and making a video of this!
Awesome- im thinking about trying to make more of my cables integrated on my current rim brake bike
I have one coming in March with the staggered D45 wheelset. Putting on a 105 Di2 and cannot wait to take it out for a rip. This video makes me so stoked on my decision!
@seanpollock826 Awesome you'll love it and the shimano groupseat means you can run a bigger bearing on your BB so you'll be flying
What’s it like?
No better feeling than riding a bike you have built yourself!
I agree, makes it all the more rewarding
Beautiful bike! I built up my own bike based on a custom titanium frame last spring (and upgraded it to 105 Di2 at Christmas) and absolutely love it. It looks great, is comfortable to ride, and is pretty darned quick as well. It puts a smile on my face every time I ride it, and knowing that I designed the frame, chose all the parts, and put it all together myself makes it even better. And of course, I know that no one will ever show up at a group ride with the exact same bike, and there's something to be said for that too. 😁
Would love to build up a titanium bike, ive seen some really nice ones at events. Im all about having a custom bike set up, think it really just makes the whole bike experience more enjoyable
I also bought this frame but rim version. Same wheels as yours, 11 spd ultegra Di2. And I LOVE riding it, better than my Canyon Ultimate.
Awesome, would love to see it- is it on instagram?
another great video. my G2 arrived today, cant wait to get it built up!
Sick- what colour did you get?
@@thewattlife black! I was tempted by the old school Klein paint job that they do, but I was worried it would stand out too much!
Gonna look sick. Love that sand/gold colour they have too
Absolutely stunning bike! I have a T1500 and its been faultless for years. However please rewrap the bars need to hide that clamp
Im definitely going to have to do this after so many comments lol
Max, you took the time to research parts, to understand what you didn't like/want in your old bike, sort out the fit etc. It is not a casual exercise, so no surprise that your new steed feels good. But I have to agree, the reward for the time and effort, when you first ride a new build and it lays rest to that little bit of anxiety that chips away at you a little saying ' what if it rides real bad ' is quite euphoric - as well it should be. When you do get out on it in earnest, watch the weather this time of year, but also watch the handling especially the cornering. The deep section wheels may behave quite differently, although good modern designs handle crosswinds very well these days, feel your way a little bit. Also from what you have described , your weight balance will be different between the wheels compared to your old bike, again this will make cornering and to that matter braking a little different especially when first turning in to a corner at speed. It took me about 200 miles to fathom my new build last year, some big surprises for me but all good. IRL challenge... back to imperial and the holy grail of a good club cyclist back in the day... 1hr 25 mile solo TT on a there and back route.... preferably without a dual carriageway!! ( Those wheels will be epically quick, probably second biggest aero gain on any bike second to your actual position)
Thanks man- it was a lot of fun to ride but yes, the weight distribution makes it feel like a whole different riding experience to what I’m used to. Going to spend a whole load of time practising some short sharp turns before I think about taking it Crit racing so that I feel way more comfortable on it.
Unreal Max!! This makes the wait for my frame to arrive a bit easier.... can't wait 😅
Awesome you’ll have it up on the road before Spring
i've just done the same thing and upgraded to disc, so was looking out for frame costs. For the spec I wanted, I couldn't get much change out of £7k, so started looking at alternatives. Hambini reviews the T1500 in detail and rates Winspace, the US and Asia markets race on the wheels and frames and now they sponsor a 2nd tier womens cycling team, so they are a real challenger brand when it comes to sub-£4k builds. I think mine was around £3.5k to build, which includes frame, wheels and bars from Winspace, plus BB, saddle, bar tape, cages and Ultega Di2 groupset. Waiting to ride when the weather is a bit better, but looking forward to that. What i will say is that it looks better than my old aero bike (Giant Propel SL) and is sneaking under the weight of that with an XL frame (equivalent to a 58cm/Giant L). Thanks for the review, looks great.
Good to know and great cost- think all in mine might have been a bit closer to 4k but still a far cry from some of the bikes on the market at the moment which far in a similar carbon spec bracket
Bike looks awesome ! 🙌 enjoying this lil mini series on how the bike feels etc ! Keep up the good work ! From Cornwall ! 👊🏻👌
Thanks Dan appreciate it- now I have to finish it off with a win in a race lol
Lovely build, may I ask what total system weight is? Looks smart with the all winspace frame/wheel combo
Really happy with the final set up. Just over 7.5 kg for the full build
A slap in the face to all the big brands like the over price specialized SL8 frame. Nice video!!
Yeah, maybe something for them to think about certainly. But the more expensive frames are responsible for a lot of the RandD which has lead to other brands making frames so well and at a cheaper price. The pro series will always be at the forefront of revolutionising bike design but saying that, i shouldnt imagine anyone will be calling me to ride in the tour this year so im more than happy with a frame like this.
💯👍🏾
Where exactly did you source it please? Looks a cracking bike. Your enthusiasm is so refreshing, thats catching. Good job!
Everything was ordered over the internet and email- so Winspace website and then emailing their info@winspace.com email. And then js_cycles and emailing Josh about the group set josh@jscycleshack.com
beautiful build...why not add a small piece of bar tape to cover the exposed lever clamp?
Doing this next week when i put the frame protection on
Love the brick caps! Siiick!
Haha same. Thanks man
That looks awesome, I might go the same route when I upgrade to disc brakes. You should really work on getting the saddle level, makes you much more balanced and comfortable. Maybe try a different saddle one with a cutout? Maybe Selle Italia SLR or Flite if they fit you.
Saddles are just so expensive- I am trying to get hold of a 3d printed one.
I always like to have a little bit of an angle on it- mines only -1 at the moment.
Amazing I have been using winspace wheels for about 2-3 years and I just got the bars about 1-2 months ago. Quick question what top cap are you using? yours seems to sit nicely inside... mine kind of sits ontop of mine... i like yours more.. can you measure your top cap ?
I noticed on the bars that there is a small 1mm drop from the top of the space for the steerer tube down to where the top cap is meant to sink so when it came to measuring how much of the fork to cut i added an additional 1mm so i think i ended up cutting 5mm below where i had marked the top of the bars on the fork. This gave me enough room for the top cap to sit inside the space and into thew 1mm gap and pull up onto the bung. Does that make sense?
@nemixCOD
@@thewattlife yeah makes sense, I have done similar but my top cap still sits above the ingress of 1mm. So what actually happened was my top cap kinda scuffed the paint / clear coat just around the circle of the 1mm gap.. So I was suspicious that my topcap might be a bit bigger than yours. As yours sits nice. Thanks for replying! hope you enjoy the bike!
I’ll measure mine one sec- I want to say it’s got a 31mm diameter @nemixCOD
Looks awesome mate, what was the weight I may have missed that part 🙈 this makes my next frame choice a little easier now just got to decide between Yoeleo R12 or the Winspace T1550. Thanks for sharing
I haven't had a chance to get it on some hanging scales yet but its roughly 7.5-7.7kg. Will confirm this next week
It is a no brainer. Winspace over Yoeleo for sure. Winspace have there agents all over the world now and you can get help. UCI aprouved and many teams are using it already. I'm tried most of the Vhinese bikes and Winspace is by far the best frame and wheelset maker.
I second this- Winspace have a good distribution network and are big enough to help with support.
I had to get a hub body replaced as I bought the wrong one it they sorted it ASAP
These days no reason for most riders to spend 10k or more! If you are handy you can build something really nice for 5k or less! Very nice build.
I have to agree- you can get a very high level electronic group set on a good frame for well under 10k. I could have put SRAM RED on this if I’d bought it in Dec and it would have been the same price
who did that bartape wraping XD...you can see those metal clips from the STI's 😶🌫
Guilty- might have to sort that out before Spring
Would love to buy one but not sure I can justify a 4th bike... Although Winspace do have some good sales throughout the year...
Yeah they had an insane deal on the frame, bars and wheels for Black Friday and Christmas
What's the cost of this build, Max?
Hey man long time- so this is a rough breakdown:
Winspace T1550, Lun Hyper SE 67' & Zero SL bar/stem for $3270 - this was a bundle package.
I paid about £1,750 for a Sram Force D2 AXS with power meter. - This is even cheaper now and id probably get a Sram RED for the same price.
Bottom bracket £100. Then pedals, seat etc come from other bikes.
@@thewattlifeGreat channel Max. FYI I only came across this after you posted the link on Strava, now catching up with lots of your vids
Hello, thank you for your video. What size frame have you chosen? And what are your measurements? Also, what is the length and width of the handlebar? I am 176 cm tall and I'm considering size M with a handlebar of 95 mm in length and 400 mm in width. Thank you!
I have a large frame. Im 181cm, it fits perfectly for me. My bars are 95mm / 380mm. I like narrow bars and again it fits great. I measured up my old frame and made my decisions based on transferring most of these across
Hey did you end up getting this frame?
I’m also 176 and considering a M with 95 long stem as well!
@@blakegboi1347
Hi!! In the end, I didn't buy it because I also decided to upgrade the groupset to an Ultegra Di2 12V (I currently have the 11v Ultegra Di2) and I needed to save for a few months. The problem is that now the frame is out of stock in the color I want. Anyway, if it were in stock, I would buy size 470 with the 38cm-95mm handlebar. There is a guy on TH-cam who is 174cm tall and has the same setup, this is his channel: www.youtube.com/@Alexpress83.
My only doubt is about the handlebar length, whether 95 or 105mm. If it were 100mm, that's the one I would buy.
I only buy a bike perhaps every 5-8 years on average and am looking to replace my veteran, race battle-hardened SL4 Tarmac. I've decided that I'm happy with putting on some weight if it means a more robust frame and aero. Would love to know people's long-term problems/impressions of this frame.
Putting together a review now I’ve put some good mileage on it. Hopefully out in the next two weeks.
I’m also testing another frame from a different company which is more in line with the SL7/8 and honestly- it looks like it’s going to be amazing. Hopefully have more on this soon
Hi mate, how do you find the sizing compared to western brands. How tall are you for this size large?
Also how was ordering from China, were you charged huge import taxes?
@nathanphillips875 Hey man, i have a size L and im 181cm/5'11". I wouldnt want to go any smaller with the frame as this feels perfect and a touch on the shorter side but i have a 95mm stem. Its perfect for what i want to use it for which is hard and fast crits.
Yeah i had i think an import take on the frame which was about £70.
I believe there is now a distributer in the UK which you might be able to google and find but i dont know how that effects cost.
I have a t1500, ace bike but wish winspace made an inline seatpost so I could put a longer stem on, rather have the 20mm on the stem than the seatpost. Nice bike though! Cover that clamp 😄
Ha yes I think im going to have to re-wrap my bars asap.
BTW, what happened with the Enve bike?
The Melee was a loan from Enve to go and ride the Mallorca 312 so it’s gone back and passed on to another press contact. Sadly 🥺
Beautiful looking bike.
Cheers man, even with my poor taste in wheel decals and storm trooper valve caps it still looks good
Is this in Washington DC? I feel like Ive trained on then roads.
@boldcord7947 This is in the UK and next to Windsor
Whats your bar width and stem length?
380 width and 95mm stem. The Winspace Zero SL
Disk brake is silly on a road bike, you had the choice to take rim brakes on the T1550 what a shame!!
Started 16 months ago at age 41... oh okay that's why you got sold on the gimmicky disk brakes marketing.. explains a lot ...
I don’t think it’s silly- the braking is better on a disc brake bike. Plus some wheel manufacturers don’t make rim brakes anymore so you are limiting your choice.
Weight on some builds can be very similar. ✌🏻✌🏻
I think calling these bikes "chinese" rather than "insert brand name" is getting ridiculous. i mean u went and bought winspace not yoeleo, ican or ... so refer to it by name so we judge just it. not generalize. just saying. nice video though!
That’s a fair point indeed. But riding in the UK you really only see very few an Asian brand bikes, so as an adjective it does give context to the frame.
The term has become a colloquialism for some of the particulars from buying direct to consumer with a longer delivery/lead time.
Addressing the issue as a whole regarding QC, customer service etc.
it’s all included in dealing with overseas brands that factor in to the conversation
Why do we speak about Chinese carbon as if there’s anything else? Aren’t all bikes (few exceptions) manufactured by the Chinese with their Chinese carbon? I think it’s high time we stopped looking down on made in CHina. Because regardless of whatever name or logo you’ve got on your bike, it was made in China.
Stopped watching around 3 mins in when it become kinda clear no price tag was gonna be given … if you gave it after 3 mins then sorry I still couldn’t be arsed to watch longer to find out lol nice looking bike tho
Good point- Winspace were doing the T1550, Lun Hyper SE 67' & Zero SL bar/stem for $3270.
I paid about £1,750 for a Sram Force D2 AXS with power meter. - This is even cheaper now!
Built this myself so its not a straight forward RRP.
They're a Chinese company. I'm shocked westerners are even doing videos on them, given the virus and their gov't.
Well i think you have to be realistic and realise that a lot of brands manufacture their frames in the same location. Winspace make really good and reliable carbon frames.
@@thewattlife It's really easy to exercise free will and just choose not to entertain chinese oem products. It takes nothing to have that ethic. Given the pandemc they let loose on Int'l flights out, lives lost, tyrnny over people, crushng of freedoms- it's a no-brainer. We have to start somewhere to prevent them from hijking yet more industries. No westerner who likes freedom and peace should even mention the irrelevant points you made in your reply to me.