Juno Is Here!!
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They finally added another support where shooting teammates heals them. I feel like that's part of what makes Ana so fun to play.
yeah but this hero is ridiculously overkitted
And interestingly she can’t headshot also like Ana
@@HammondCRhow lol
I dont like her as much as ana, shes way lesss satisfying in that regard. Also, fun fact: she sometimes moans when she dies/takes damage (dont know wich) and i absolutely hate it
Shes just a amlagam of ana genji lucio echo, and kiri kinda with the ult
Zen's the right foot and Juno's the left foot, Blizzard's trying to set up an Exodia😂😂
Doomfist is also kind of the right hand
Lmao if u play them all at once the match ends
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Who is the head? Ramatra or ball xc
this is amazing lol great point
Juno is a success and it’s simple. She is a support that can add a lot of team value, but has risk. She isn’t free. She doesn’t have any immortality, no get out of jail card that gives her three extra lives, and she doesn’t outright do better damage than the DPS. Good job blizzard.
Too late for it though... They have to rework kiriko and immortality then we can talk
*Mercy Res*
@@illestvillain1971 i doubt those abilities will be reworked anytime soon if at all . but we will have to see what they do that is if they even have something in mind
100% with op.
Finally blizzard adds a support hero without any bullshit invunerability or immortality. Lifeweaver was a good example of a good support addition
She seems a whole lot more balanced than I thought.
Also keep in mind just how difficult it is to track people with how much mobility Yuno has. She’s honestly pretty difficult to play.
@@anonymouscanadian9839
Yuno lmao
Yeah
I don't think she's balanced she has utility and good healing. Usually healers are more focused on one over the other. Having a hero that does both with no downside isn't healthy.
@@corbinallen4562
She has almost zero damage.
And her escape options are much more limited than they seem.
Hence why.
She loses pretty much any 1x1 in the game.
I remember people freaking out about her mobility and I was there thinking “if she can only get mild height in the air, and when she hovers she’s locked to horizontal movement, isn’t that just gonna make her a massive sitting duck to every hitscan hero and mid-range tank in the game”
I was getting cooked by Soldiers and Cassidy left and right
@@waterrr6332exactly. I feel like people massively underrated just how much not having up and down mobility while in the air makes her extremely vulnerable. You’re basically giving up all cover and you’re not even gaining an extra axis of movement to compensate. It’s great for traversal and initiating into a fight from a flank route but mid fight it’s almost worthless for escape or avoiding damage.
@@gryph0n55 I feel like it's a good thing that she can't go vertically. Or else we have another versatile mobility ability.
@@waterrr6332 yeah and I’m perfectly fine with that. I’m glad she isn’t super mobile but still has decent traversal. I just found it funny how much people were freaking out about it without thinking how vulnerable it actually makes her.
@@gryph0n55 Yea, you kinda have to position like an Ana then if your playing with JQ, throw the ring then go to town. Been loving Juno+Lucio on my team as JQ
She is not as mobile as I thought. She also has a lot of shield but she doesn’t have the ability to heal herself on demand.
I think that's actualy a good thing. If I think about it besides Zen (dont count brig and mercy because both can heal the self's by either healing or doing dmg) there isn't any other support that can't heal themself making them all often extremely frustrating to kill. Now add her similar to mercy mobility and hitbox. With a self healing ability she would be another character that just has everything at once making her not just extremely hard to balance but also frustrating to play against
That way she's more about positioning awareness and using her mobility to weave in and out of cover, whereas with Lucio sometimes I just straight up tank dmg like bullying a Dva when I have amp. Dva is actually a really good counter to her since you can eat the alt fire and follow her when she flies
she actually has incredibly mobility , i main genji and his jumping and juking around translate to her very well. you just have to do it right.
for example, you can save your double jump for your hover. why would you do this? juno gains a speed boost when she activates her hover, similar to echo. so you jump once, hover, juke around, then jump again to quickly move. then you can cancel early so you dont fall slowly.
Blue shield is a way of self healing, plus she has the supp ability that makes her self healing trigger twice as fast than any other role, plus the blue shield recovery and passive self healing stack with eachother, and she's so mobile that it will be like tracer and she won't need that much healing, also she seems barely bigger than kiri but she can fly, so she often be way farther away than any most of the healers, even farther as ana as she will have more lines of sight, and she's quite precise at distance and has more ammo than ana, so... yeah, I hate it already, another almost invincible character @@empty3038
@@empty3038Lifeweaver can heal himself aswell
So I just did a bit of testing turns out if you kill a Hammond while he’s in ball form, she’ll say sorry I thought you were spaced debris
LMFAAAOOOOOOOO
Hammond: (angry squeaks) "I feel very attacked."
I… uhh
She also says, “I’ve destroyed astroids bigger than you.”
She called him trash. Finally a hero that reflects the community.
Nice to see Haru following her father's footsteps in becoming a Space person.
I sEe No FLAws in mY FaThEr's loGiC
i want a Beauty Thief skin for Juno so bad
Dva, pharah, echo, space ranger, mercy and you have team flying
*cries in junk main*
I swear to you that was the first thing I said 😭
Dva + Juno rushing with the others holding the backline would be really annoying if your dps can't do hitscan lmao
Team look up
@@djwolfdragon3771 it’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s the entire enemy team falling from the sky!😭
RE: the ultimate, I imagine the lore of it is that its a large scale version of Mercy's staff, that she gave the tech to overwatch to put in a satellite.
So I bet it does same healing and damage boost that mercy does, its like a combined ray
Nah. Hammer of Dawn.
Nah. Essence of Orbital Laser.
Nah. Space Colony ARK from Sonic Adventure 2
Nah Jacob’s latter
Nah, Orbital Ion Canon from factorio
Did anyone else notice? The icon on her gun changes if you're aiming at an enemy or an ally
Finally some accessibility for bronzes
@@theenderking111LMAO😭
She seemed super powerful through trailers, seems more like an enjoyable character than just a support/dps hybrid about to shift all metas to her favor
The trailers always make them look powerful. The enemy team rarely shoots at anyone and they all seem to have, like, 10HP at all times.
@@CopShowGuy Fr tho, happy she isn’t as meta breaking and more of a fun mobility hero with a lot of tech
She is so fast, once you die you are back in like a second
Can’t wait to see someone combo her glide and LW slingshot
She does have healing fall off. It’s pretty hard to see in the video, but it’s definitely noticeable from longer ranges from when I played it in game.
Are we certain that it wasn't the DPS Passive messing with your measurements? There's still no good way to tell if someone does have the passive on them or not.
@@anunusualstoutshako728she definitely has healing falloff
@@anunusualstoutshako728it is falloff, like 40m or something maybe 30
She doesnt @@slineu1403
@@anunusualstoutshako728 it's very easy to test in practice range, she 100% has falloff for both dmg & healing
some things i’ve noticed from testing. Jump-dash-double jump+hold is the most optimal for height +movement control. you can also , while gliding using the dash ability, you can go up slanted inclines! it is insane
She's out here doing the Duke Nukem 64 kick lol
Another thing is that her hyper ring looks to apply to Juno without her having to walk through it, which is pretty handy.
the projectile applys the speed buff too, is what i've found, not just the ring once it's deployed, since it comes from Juno she gets affected by the speed the moment she fires it off.
The frog on toast hopes that lucio stacks
Edit: Kinda does but it’s not as toasty as I woulda liked
It stacks
@@rashadthompsonjr4380and it stacks with junkerqueen shout
And what of the toast?
@@LaughgreatYTdamn can't wait for the rush comps to go wild now😂
@@empty3038Triple speed is so fun. This should be meta
When i was playing her, it felt a lot like playing the best parts of mercy, where youre moving around a lot to help critical teammates while doing damage (or damage boosting) where you can
I think Juno might be Echo's support kit before she got moved to dps, i'm sure I remember Jeff or someone mentioning echo had been trialled in all roles with different kits
I can not see a universe in which echo is a tank. Can you imagine echo as a tank?
Don't know if its intended but her torps can track a reaper through teleport(if you lock on prior to the tele) and around walls, which makes it a really good finisher on someone running away or flying.
Did this with a Lucio like three times in one game of Lijiang Tower night market. He was trying to skate away on the buildings away from the CP at low health and the torpedo followed him around the corner and killed him 😂 If he had been on heal rather than speed he probably would have been fine though
3:18 "all 5 of my teamates and all 5 of my enemies" 6v5 confirmed ?!?!
The terraria backround music goes so hard
I really like how they made her only self sustain aside from self regen and sheilds is her mobility, which still isn't a get out of jail free and feels frustrating to play against. And has no self healing cooldowns. She's a good example of a fun support that's not super frustrating to play against. And of course, no cleanse or invicibility
What flats didn't realize is that Juno doesn't need to touch the ring when she uses her E, to get the speed boost. Only teammates do.
Juno’s space aesthetic gets funnier when you’ve played Persona 5.
oh yea
Haru doing a Futaba cosplay
@@starmoral5456 I was more alluding to the dungeon in Haru’s arc.
ofcourse, atlus invented retro future. its not that you are putting p5 on a pedestal
@@CryoByte115what prompted you to respond in this way?
I wonder what the damage increase with the orbital laser looks like when combo’d with Baptiste’s window, or Ana’s nano.
I love how the flying is quite slow. Seems quite easy to hook her out of the sky, which would be really cool. Hopefully it's tuned like that.
Is the Juno preview a secret F U to Concord's open beta weekend? "Hey, possible Concord players, check out our EXTREMELY MOBILE upcoming new character!" 😅
I just can't get past Concords goofy but hyper realistic character design. That alien girl is the stuff of nightmares...
Her right click locks on faster to anyone that is closer. If you turn off the toggle activation, there may be some situations where you would want to fire your right click early to hit a specific target but can't cuz it won't shoot until it is locked on on everyone on your screen
Except once you release it it shoots so u don’t have to wait for it to lock on to everyone
With the toggle off you only have to let go rather than click. It is actually way more intuitive for targeting specific players
so Juno is basically:
Cassidy deadeye + Ana primary fire + Mercy dmg boost + Lucio speed amp + Genji double jump + echo float
Yeah the 70 damage is basically Deadeye
And old orisa ult combined with a moving life weaver ult
Support mains are seething pretending she's balanced.
@@kasm7870 It's actually better, dead eye is fucking ass. The charge up is pretty fast and you can heal your whole team with it too on a 10 second CD. Plus you can re position yourself with air mobility before or after casting it, Cassidy can't do that, outside of a lil roll.
@@lifenote1943you thinking deadeye is ass shows how little you know about how to play the game
Now my question is if orbital+kitsune can outdamge zen ult
I think if it's bastion or cassidy right click or storm arrows it can. Or mauga ofc
If a Mercy ult and Rush can't, neither will Orbital and Rush
@@Midguardsormr really? Damn
Now, orbital rush and window ? Pretend we are in open queue lol
@@ee7640 very likely as 8/10 ppl press Q simultaneously
Her right click actually doesn’t feel all that broken
No not at all
It's great for finishing off low health Pharahs ans Echos.
feels very satisfying when you actually lock onto a lot of people surprisingly, samito doom screaming for nothing again (i love samito but that was way too much lmao)
@@demifolk8940 was the doomscreaming before or after playing? Cuz I saw him screaming when he watched the trailer lmao but after playing it, her rightclick feels ok
@@hypnoticsheep142he was tweaking out because the trailer showed her auto-aim. He said it’s not a big deal it it’s not overtuned
14:47 car keys is my favorite streamer
I LOVE IT (im biased because space)
A lot of artists are gonna be eating good this month
Her right click is gonna be way too good at securing those kills where someone somehow gets away with 1hp.
Speed boost pharmercy is about to go crazy 😂
She gets the E herself as soon as she presses the button, and he forgot to do the right click numbers
One thing he failed to notice is that when you shoot her ring it automatically gives her the speed boost no matter where you shoot it. You do not need to initially touch the ring as Juno to get the boost.
You can go up walls with the flight
I think 180 ammo is a little excessive, but you have to account for the fact that Juno is going to be healing a lot more than damaging, most likely.
180 ammo with 12 shots a click is 15 shots, same as ana
I think 144 ammo balance. 180 it op
Shes been out for a couple of hours. No one uses op correctly these days istg@@jokemam0018
@@jokemam0018we literally haven't played her long enough to know yet lmao
It’s not really. She has 15 shots before reload and has to spread it between both damage and healing.
Her parkour maps will be pretty fun
she has vertical mobility when flying, but you can only do it if you fly into a wall. You can kinda claim the wall up why in flight mode
And it's all over the screen
this aint bastionmain
But it is juno
My goat mentioned, what is not being benchedmain on your pro team?
Nice
Saw Winston on the hero select screen and instantly exploded.
my only gripe is it feels like it takes 50 years for her lock on to fully lock on and thats assuming you dont lose line of sight for even a second.
or atleast it feels like it takes forever
Im curious the the missiles can be used to hunt for widows
Bro her ult is literally just a better valk
All I can hear when she talks is Haru from persona 5
The age of flyers
So now I have 2 questions related to stacking.
1. Does her ring and lucio speedboost stack and if yes by how much?
2. Does mercy dmg boost or anas Nano stack with her ult and if yes how much dmg boost would that be in total?
There's a cap on speed at 75% bonus I believe so they do stack but it would be better to cascade them outside special situations imo
Make sure there are no raining slimes Flats.
Juno and Brig combo is crazy work. I genuinely didn’t expect the yield of results I got because Juno does big Heals why Brig plays both in front and behind keeping enemies at bay and protecting Juno
a lot of movement abilities do use the person speed at the moment, so with venture if slowed and tries to dash it isnt as far. same with juno ( atleast with speed boost that I know of)
Dude her and bab are gonna be insane with the amount of heals and dps they put out with the Amp matrix
And wait that's technically like the 5th flying charecter holy shit
@@sharky_box1857wait, who are the other 4? I was only able to think of Echo, Pharah, and Mercy. I just woke up, so I might be drawing a blank.
@@kIDNEYKid-xt9uc dva and the new girl, cause technically dva can fly and so can the new support again technically
@@sharky_box1857 you don't have to worry too much about Juno's flight. She doesn't have much vertical mobility, all she can really do is hover.
@starrysky8118 true hense why I said technically, but yah that's gonna be either hell to deal with or again just plain stupid
If you’re next to a ledge and use her shift you can fly directly into it and get some vertical movement
I mean the dmg boost feels like it should be higher than mercy’s since it’s an ult
Picturing a pair of rings in the air and a pharah/echo duo on both teams doing zoomies
11:13 the fact he’s surprised that an ultimate does more the an ability with 0 cooldown pisses me off
Why ?
@@A10slasherbc he’s a sped
Mercy’s damage boost is single target and means 1/2 of your supports lack the ability to heal. It’s a bit surprising that an AoE damage boost that also heals a ton does more damage boost
@@AdderallAscensionRemind me, what does Valk do?
@@kasm7870heal OR damage boost. Not both at the same time. I think it's balanced out by Valk having a much longer duration though.
Flats: She's not that fast
Also Flats: Turns around and walks backwards during the speed boost which is slower than moving forward.
The thumbnail: A new FLATS APPROVED hero.
New character: Exists.
Flats: That's crazy! *wheezes*
Her ultimate just needs zero gravity and we’re good
1:45 That's Jett's passive!
Nah echo’s but nice try
who the hell is Jett 😭😭
Valorant 🤢🤢🤢🤢
I mean you’d hope the damage boost would be higher than mercy considering it’s an ultimate. This character also seems to pair really well with kiriko
“That is a lot of mobility”
[insert Minecraft witch noises]
Doomfist will go fast if he cross the ring 🤔
With Dva and ring her dive is extra lethal.
@frozenfury0 I watched a Dva shoot her bomb through the ring and it was zooming 😂
@@BeDatAPickle That seems terrifying 🤣 curious to see queens ult through it
@@frozenfury0 Good idea, I'll have to try that
It's almost comical the difference in reception/excitement this hero is generating compared to Venture.
Cis normative tings
@@nailinthefashion love people saying the boring character is boring just because cis people. Actual brainrot moment.
I thpught venture had pr.etty high excitement and reption 😭. The only characters to have more in ow2 is this one and kiri
I can't speak for everyone else, but I don't like them as much because they come off as a combo burst hero like doom used to be and I don't enjoy playing against those as much because I am slow slow and terrible at the game. :(
People were super hyped for Venture from what I remember. The only reason I saw for it dying down slightly is that they released a little hot off the presses and felt too strong. If you want a hero people REALLY didn’t give a shit about for long, just look at Lifeweaver.
Me and my team tried her in a scrum setting and we found she’s amazing in the brawl vs brawl matchup cos you can alternate speed boost with lucio and they can’t keep up
From what is that song again that is in the background?
Damn my brain finally got it: It's Terraria
Juno ult and kiri's rush is about to be meta, mauga about to be literally god
Will feel like a Lucio Kiri ult. Which sounds like a waste.
I love juno shes so much fun and shes got really cute and funnny voice lines
Mei is a aunt
Probably just formalities not blood related
@@e3vL1 are you sure about that because if you load up in the game with me she’s gonna say I’m nervous without my aunt Mei plus did you not see the picture? why does she have a picture of Mei with her mom
@@Bluegenji I thought jiayi was mei's friend/classmate in grad school from one of meis voice lines
@@e3vL1 then why does she call her aunt Mei
@@Bluegenji when a child grows up with their mom's best female friend (especially if they live close or in same household), they sometimes call them aunt or auntie.
Same goes with kids calling their parents male friends uncle if they grew up with them when very young
while play testing Juno , I found that shes a good counter to (or better to play against) Phara (floating + auto aim missile + hitscan) , tracer (auto aim missile) and widow (different sight lines)
She is amazing… thank you for actually enjoying the new hero. I LOVE THE CHARACTER
Now we need a true flying tank
I'm fine with a dmg boost ult being stronger than mercy dmg boost because it's an ult and last like 5 seconds
I think they missed the trick to make her shift completely carry her momentum and full direction, effectively turning off gravity for her for a moment.
Seems pretty fun mechanically, and her gun feels good.
Northstar titanfall if it was an overwatch support
Not even remotely close?
@@mystycomega6547missiles, hover. It's a bit of a stretch but checks out
What I wanna know is if her ult damage boost stacks with mercy dmg-boost…
You don't need to go through your own ring to get the speedboost
So they basically made Orisa bongos again as a support ult okay man
Not to mention two reused passives and an echo glide with worse mobility
I see her giving mercy’s Valkyrie some issues potentially. We will have to see how other support mains use her. Can’t wait to figure out more with her today she’s so fun!! Maybe we can get more support mains.
Just wondering but are the spacey sound effects part of the stream or are they part of Juno´s character?
Its Terraria music
Juno got a mobile lifeweaver tree that damage boosts
The terraria music in the background was absolutely perfect and gave me such good vibes from the past.
He didnt notice in the video but juno doesnt even need to pass by the ring to get the boost, she gets it when she places the ring down for allies, which she can then run through the ring near the abilities end to get a longer speed boost
Love the terraria music in the background
The Terarria background music had me thinking I accidently opened my game lolll.
This is littuarly anna who has taken a shit ton of steroids
My only worry if she's going to be a case of "why play someone else when Juno can do a decent job of that and these bunch of other things"
She’s actually pretty balanced I’m surprised
One interesting thing to note is that she gets the speed boost just by shooting the ring, she doesn't actually need to go through it herself
Her ult charge is insane per burst
for damage? its pitiful, for healing, pretty average iirc
@@jinnipers.3931 when he was shooting at hog in 2 burst he went from 9 to 91 @12:16
@@alexanderpeterson7724
Dude. It's a custom game. Flats upped the charge rate so that they can charge up the ult quickly to be able to tests it's damage boost
@@alexanderpeterson7724 🤦
@@bryangarcia5207 oh ok I didn't know if he did
After watching this now Juno Juno
She’s Adorable ☺️
I was thinking Genji right there you throw the ring Genji dashes into the ring and now he's supercharged
CactusPuppy mentioned WOOOO