I think they use 1 less baffle to utilize a bigger blast chamber for reduced blowback, and I think they use 762 baffles because that may also help reduce blowback. I think the no gas to the face is worth it over a little more suppression using 556 baffles.
Rugged specifically puts the serial number there because it's the thickest, most durable spot of the silencer. I think the words they use on their website say "serial number strategically placed in case silencer is damaged beyond repair".
I just received my February 13th 2024, I thought I was going to be a little bit quieter. But maybe it was because I was shooting at an indoor range. Purchasing the flash hider was definitely a great idea as well. The next step is to shoot it at an outdoor range. And hopefully and I'll get a little bit better results.
Great video, get that audio balanced with the beginning for us mobile and headphone users 🤣. On topic I'm really thinking two of these would look real nice in my collection...
I have a Rugged Obsidian 45. Love it, run it on my Glock 41, and my Staccato P. I like the Razor due to the reduced gas coming at you. I have a AAC 7.62 and it is very quiet, and very little gas. But it is the size of an old maglite, weighs about as much too. Very quiet on the 11.5 300 blk. But I want something small, light that won't choke me out when I build my 12.5 5.56 upper.
I just bought an Obsidian 9 a week ago I have an RC2 on Efile form4 sitting at 2.5 months so hopefully in a few weeks to a month I’ll have it but I know shooting them off when they get carbon locked sounds weird but that can is a fucking tank and the people that get carbon locked are usually using a warcomp so all of those gasses are prematurely leaving the barrel and settling around the locking collar I Love Q they’re my favorite I’m giving Rugged a chance now but I own a bunch of silencers like 4-5 for almost every caliber you can think of BUT 556 because it’s a loud ass round and subs aren’t widely available like 9mm or 22 but all that to say Surefire did it right it’s not the quietest but you’re using ears anyway but it’s the best QD mount on the market IMO. Especially using a 3 prong flash hider instead of a warcomp you don’t see shit through nods like other 556 cans do my brother has a Sandman and an RC2 and I bought the RC2. Like I said I’m going to start showing Rugged some love but I’m really waiting for Q’s 556 can I know some people don’t like Kevin (whatever reason) but Q makes ridiculously light and quiet cans and they say their 556 can they have that they’re gunna release soon is the best on the market. We’ll see. But I do like this Razor I might pick one up I just don’t know if it’ll be 556 or 762. 🤙🏻
I have The HUXWRX (OSS Suppressor) in 7.62 I like it a lot for super sonic calibers. I like it so much I will be getting the 556 Titanium version soon for my 556 AR's
In all these reviews no one mentions or shows how the flash suppression for this silencer is. That's a main selling point for me. Wish someone would do some night shooting, or at least talk about it.
I would like to see the flash signature reduction comparison. Does the Razor 556 have 4 baffles like the Razor 762? I am assuming they did something different with the baffle design and/or quantity due to the weight difference between it and the 762 model.
There is only 3 baffles and they are the same diameter as the 762. The only difference I can tell is the spacing of the baffles and the end cap has a smaller diameter.
@@AbelCompanyArms I wonder why they wouldnt used 5.56 sized baffles to make it quieter unless they did testing and the 762 baffles some how had lower decibels at the ear.
Pretty strange that they serialized it towards the front of the can, especially since the front half looks to me welded on and would be easy to replace if there was a baffle or end cap stile. Almost all companies are doing it as far rear as possible nowadays.
It may seem shady but it works and its what they tell you to do and if it did mess it up I'm sure they would fix it since you done what they said to do. Think about it the bullet is gone out the end of the can by the time the gas hits the baffles. Nice video brother keep up the good work.
I’m finishing up a comparison video between this and the Surefire SOCOM RC2. The RC2 definitely has less flash than the Razor. The razor with the Flash hider end cap is t bad though. I’ll post some shorts of it soon.
@@AbelCompanyArms awesome I'm glad to hear that you are doing that. I'm comparing this to the yhm turbo and trying to decide which one I'm going to get
@@shadezactual2657 On what criteria? I own the YHM T2 and the Razor 5.56 as well and find them identical in suppression ability but the T2 chokes me out with gas and unspent powder to the face. So much so I get soot on my face. I train often and hard though so YMMV. Also, the T2 took an end cap strike when I was running full auto and theres zero way for me to fix that without sending it in where the Rugged has a replacable end cap as its the MOST common failture in all suppressors. Not a fan of that part of the YHM T2.
@@RunningWithSauce Hey thanks for the comment! In regards to T2 vs Razor 556, unfortunately I can say with confidence the T2 does a superior job with sound suppression, tone, and most importantly for me flash suppression straight from the factory. I train with night vision most the time, and the razor 556 being essentially a 30 cal k can is horrible at flash suppression and causes temporary spots in my elbit's tube. And you can see the difference in tone on my comparison video I got between the two on the same exact rifle since I have my Razor cut by Ecco and a DA keymo. It makes sense that a can which has baffles designed for 223/556 has better overall suppression than a 30 caliber baffle stack in the Razor 556. As for the endocarp strike, did YHM fix your suppressor? They and rugged both have good warranty work and both are top notch when it comes to fixing cans even when it is user error!
For anyone watching this in the future, the Razor 556 uses the same .360 diameter baffles as the Razor 762. This can is literally a Razor 762 with one less baffle labeled as a 'dedicated 5.56', a literal sham.
I just dug it out and put it next to a Razor 7.62. Holy shit, it’s literally just a different size end cap. I would have never thought to look at that. Side by side I can’t tell a difference.
@@AbelCompanyArms do the 762 and 556 razor perform any differently with regard to flash suppression or sound? Or do you think rugged mostly made this can with low back pressure in mind? Excited for your flash comparison with this and the rc2. I bought a razor 556 to use with nods so I'm hoping it performs ok
Wow. Good to know. I have an old school AAC M42K mod 07 dedicated to a 10.5 SBR. For being 15 years old design, still a great can for sound suppression. I was looking for another newer can and have an obsidian 9 but not if this can is a sham.
@@jackal2001a Rugged is a solid company so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and wait until more info comes out before I call it a sham. The baffle count is 3 but the spacing is different so that might be what’s unique about the can. The upcoming comparison video with the RC2 should help a bit too
I would recommend it unless you plan on swapping out muzzle devices. I change muzzle devices all the time for different reviews. So I don’t have rockset on mine.
I personally wouldn’t go below 10.3” with 5.56. I use 11.5” on my 5.56 SBRs. Anything below 10.3” you risk the bullet not stabilizing, potentially getting a baffle strike in your suppressor.
@@AbelCompanyArms I have since for that reason decided to get a ptr 9kt instead. All that noise and muzzle blast from a short 556 wasn't going to be good. I already have the next best thing which is an IWI 556 bullpup w/ 16" barrel. Thanks for the input.
HUXWRX flow 556 took notes and beat this one in pretty much all categories. Quieter, less blowback, shorter, flash hider built in. I would buy 2 flow 556 cans it’s that good
I looked at a HUXWRX Flow and really wanted to like it, but for me, there were two problems: their warranty is only against "workmanship" and it's "limited to the lifetime of the suppressor." I reached out to HUXWRX for clarification and they confirmed: they will only repair/replace for free it the failure is due to faulty manufacturing; otherwise, the cost of repair is on you. Also, the "lifetime" of the can is only 10,000 rounds. They said you could "probably" get 20,000 rounds with frequent maintenance.
Same here, just looked at her today. They're saying 60 days for my e-file. I'll get to shoot it in the meantime at my LGS's range. Hope you got the $200 rugged "rebate" in march while they were still doing it.
@@dukecleve4008 nice! I'm grabbing the flash hider mount along with the flash hider endcap for my 11.5. very excited. The flash hider endcap is on backorder unfortunately, but the rep said about 3 weeks before they're back in stock.
I cant hear it but if there is any, its cause hes using a 3 prong flash hider and the prongs are the same length so it usually rings with or without a suppressor on.
@@dustinfarnsworth174 thanks Captain Obvious.. I am an Army Veteran, I have some hearing loss, and I have Tinnitus.. I'm not getting younger, like most people. I value my hearing, or as the ear doctor said I may not have much hearing left in 20 years. 10.5" barreled 5.56 AR Pistol is not as quiet or feasible as it once was, I'd rather have a 12.5" Barrel with a fourward sound device to help my ears and this might be the route I take .. eventually.
Well, it’s a more feasible option than hearing loss. But go ahead and enjoy your hearing loss because it’s too expensive to be feasible. There are many options that are cheaper for suppression, but you’ll complain in 20 years that they were all still to expensive while paying for hearing aids.
I think they use 1 less baffle to utilize a bigger blast chamber for reduced blowback, and I think they use 762 baffles because that may also help reduce blowback. I think the no gas to the face is worth it over a little more suppression using 556 baffles.
Rugged specifically puts the serial number there because it's the thickest, most durable spot of the silencer. I think the words they use on their website say "serial number strategically placed in case silencer is damaged beyond repair".
I just received my February 13th 2024, I thought I was going to be a little bit quieter. But maybe it was because I was shooting at an indoor range. Purchasing the flash hider was definitely a great idea as well. The next step is to shoot it at an outdoor range. And hopefully and I'll get a little bit better results.
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I wish the 556 razor wasn’t on back order for the last several months
I’m very interested in these guys, their shop is the next town over from me so that’s kind of neat
Its so light & sexy. Looks amazing. Need to get the flash hider front cap for 5.56. Can't wait to run it.
Great video, get that audio balanced with the beginning for us mobile and headphone users 🤣. On topic I'm really thinking two of these would look real nice in my collection...
I love my razor 762. Looking for a dedicated 556 can to just leave on a new build. Thanks for the quick review, super helpful!
I have a Rugged Obsidian 45.
Love it, run it on my Glock 41, and my Staccato P.
I like the Razor due to the reduced gas coming at you.
I have a AAC 7.62 and it is very quiet, and very little gas. But it is the size of an old maglite, weighs about as much too.
Very quiet on the 11.5 300 blk.
But I want something small, light that won't choke me out when I build my 12.5 5.56 upper.
I bought one cause this video.... I cant wait to see your comparison vid
I just bought an Obsidian 9 a week ago I have an RC2 on Efile form4 sitting at 2.5 months so hopefully in a few weeks to a month I’ll have it but I know shooting them off when they get carbon locked sounds weird but that can is a fucking tank and the people that get carbon locked are usually using a warcomp so all of those gasses are prematurely leaving the barrel and settling around the locking collar I Love Q they’re my favorite I’m giving Rugged a chance now but I own a bunch of silencers like 4-5 for almost every caliber you can think of BUT 556 because it’s a loud ass round and subs aren’t widely available like 9mm or 22 but all that to say Surefire did it right it’s not the quietest but you’re using ears anyway but it’s the best QD mount on the market IMO. Especially using a 3 prong flash hider instead of a warcomp you don’t see shit through nods like other 556 cans do my brother has a Sandman and an RC2 and I bought the RC2. Like I said I’m going to start showing Rugged some love but I’m really waiting for Q’s 556 can I know some people don’t like Kevin (whatever reason) but Q makes ridiculously light and quiet cans and they say their 556 can they have that they’re gunna release soon is the best on the market. We’ll see. But I do like this Razor I might pick one up I just don’t know if it’ll be 556 or 762. 🤙🏻
Can you please do a review of the flash hider end cap with night footage? Please and thank you!
I have The HUXWRX (OSS Suppressor) in 7.62 I like it a lot for super sonic calibers. I like it so much I will be getting the 556 Titanium version soon for my 556 AR's
I’m researching for my first 5.56 can looking at this and the Silencerco saker
Which one did you end up going with?
Very nice vid…look forward to RC2 comparison. Is that a Steiner CQB-L on there?
Thanks man, should have it out soon. No, it’s a Wilcox RAID-X
Yea man please make another video this week 😂
In all these reviews no one mentions or shows how the flash suppression for this silencer is. That's a main selling point for me. Wish someone would do some night shooting, or at least talk about it.
I have the flash hider endcap on mine and it performs great. Expect a lot of flash without that endcap
@@50shadesofFDE Great news! Thanks!
Here ya go!
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@@kiddjubbz Thanks for the link, I think I watched that video right when it came out though. Looks like the flash hider endcap is a must.
What 3 prong muzzle device are you using?
I would like to see the flash signature reduction comparison. Does the Razor 556 have 4 baffles like the Razor 762? I am assuming they did something different with the baffle design and/or quantity due to the weight difference between it and the 762 model.
There is only 3 baffles and they are the same diameter as the 762. The only difference I can tell is the spacing of the baffles and the end cap has a smaller diameter.
@@AbelCompanyArms Thanks for the response.
@@AbelCompanyArms I wonder why they wouldnt used 5.56 sized baffles to make it quieter unless they did testing and the 762 baffles some how had lower decibels at the ear.
Also what baffer weight are you using on your Daniel defense 11.5 when suppressed or unsuppresed?
Pretty strange that they serialized it towards the front of the can, especially since the front half looks to me welded on and would be easy to replace if there was a baffle or end cap stile. Almost all companies are doing it as far rear as possible nowadays.
They give some reason for it on their website I think, something about it being on the thickest part
It may seem shady but it works and its what they tell you to do and if it did mess it up I'm sure they would fix it since you done what they said to do. Think about it the bullet is gone out the end of the can by the time the gas hits the baffles. Nice video brother keep up the good work.
Same method as Surefire, just shoot it off!
Nice review…
Thanks man, love to hear that 👊🏼
Rugged cans are idiot-proof. I love my Alaskan360. Definitely considering this one for a dedicated 5.56 can.
Can the mount be removed to use with a plan b mount?
How does it do at suppressing flash? That's one of my big deal breakers it's got to handle flash
I’m finishing up a comparison video between this and the Surefire SOCOM RC2. The RC2 definitely has less flash than the Razor. The razor with the Flash hider end cap is t bad though. I’ll post some shorts of it soon.
@@AbelCompanyArms awesome I'm glad to hear that you are doing that. I'm comparing this to the yhm turbo and trying to decide which one I'm going to get
@@rorinthelarpdad120 get the T2, I bought both and t2 is better
@@shadezactual2657 On what criteria? I own the YHM T2 and the Razor 5.56 as well and find them identical in suppression ability but the T2 chokes me out with gas and unspent powder to the face. So much so I get soot on my face. I train often and hard though so YMMV. Also, the T2 took an end cap strike when I was running full auto and theres zero way for me to fix that without sending it in where the Rugged has a replacable end cap as its the MOST common failture in all suppressors. Not a fan of that part of the YHM T2.
@@RunningWithSauce Hey thanks for the comment! In regards to T2 vs Razor 556, unfortunately I can say with confidence the T2 does a superior job with sound suppression, tone, and most importantly for me flash suppression straight from the factory. I train with night vision most the time, and the razor 556 being essentially a 30 cal k can is horrible at flash suppression and causes temporary spots in my elbit's tube. And you can see the difference in tone on my comparison video I got between the two on the same exact rifle since I have my Razor cut by Ecco and a DA keymo. It makes sense that a can which has baffles designed for 223/556 has better overall suppression than a 30 caliber baffle stack in the Razor 556. As for the endocarp strike, did YHM fix your suppressor? They and rugged both have good warranty work and both are top notch when it comes to fixing cans even when it is user error!
For anyone watching this in the future, the Razor 556 uses the same .360 diameter baffles as the Razor 762. This can is literally a Razor 762 with one less baffle labeled as a 'dedicated 5.56', a literal sham.
I just dug it out and put it next to a Razor 7.62. Holy shit, it’s literally just a different size end cap. I would have never thought to look at that. Side by side I can’t tell a difference.
@@AbelCompanyArms do the 762 and 556 razor perform any differently with regard to flash suppression or sound? Or do you think rugged mostly made this can with low back pressure in mind? Excited for your flash comparison with this and the rc2. I bought a razor 556 to use with nods so I'm hoping it performs ok
Wow. Good to know. I have an old school AAC M42K mod 07 dedicated to a 10.5 SBR. For being 15 years old design, still a great can for sound suppression. I was looking for another newer can and have an obsidian 9 but not if this can is a sham.
@@jackal2001a Rugged is a solid company so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and wait until more info comes out before I call it a sham. The baffle count is 3 but the spacing is different so that might be what’s unique about the can. The upcoming comparison video with the RC2 should help a bit too
@@ohhhspanky I didn't know everyone since the 90s was using 30cal baffles, now I do.
what ar15 is that exactly?
Did you used rockset on your flushhider when you installed it?
I would recommend it unless you plan on swapping out muzzle devices. I change muzzle devices all the time for different reviews. So I don’t have rockset on mine.
What barrell length? I'm thinking about a 7 to 8" 556 pistol and wondering what works best with such a loud gun.
I personally wouldn’t go below 10.3” with 5.56. I use 11.5” on my 5.56 SBRs. Anything below 10.3” you risk the bullet not stabilizing, potentially getting a baffle strike in your suppressor.
@@AbelCompanyArms I have since for that reason decided to get a ptr 9kt instead. All that noise and muzzle blast from a short 556 wasn't going to be good. I already have the next best thing which is an IWI 556 bullpup w/ 16" barrel. Thanks for the input.
Weather it's good or Bad Rugged says no barrel restrictions
HUXWRX flow 556 took notes and beat this one in pretty much all categories. Quieter, less blowback, shorter, flash hider built in. I would buy 2 flow 556 cans it’s that good
its more than twice the price also...
@@runrobrunnthat’s where it loses me.
I looked at a HUXWRX Flow and really wanted to like it, but for me, there were two problems: their warranty is only against "workmanship" and it's "limited to the lifetime of the suppressor." I reached out to HUXWRX for clarification and they confirmed: they will only repair/replace for free it the failure is due to faulty manufacturing; otherwise, the cost of repair is on you. Also, the "lifetime" of the can is only 10,000 rounds. They said you could "probably" get 20,000 rounds with frequent maintenance.
OOoOooO it’s beautiful
Best, YHM Turbo 5.56
What handguard is that
Daniel Defense 10” MFR rail
Got one in ATF ..hell
Hopefully it goes pretty quick with the new Efile
Same here, just looked at her today. They're saying 60 days for my e-file. I'll get to shoot it in the meantime at my LGS's range. Hope you got the $200 rugged "rebate" in march while they were still doing it.
@@LOWzapper yeah I did 👍
@@dukecleve4008 nice! I'm grabbing the flash hider mount along with the flash hider endcap for my 11.5. very excited. The flash hider endcap is on backorder unfortunately, but the rep said about 3 weeks before they're back in stock.
@@LOWzapper nice... yeah that's one thing I want to grab is the flash hider Cap💥
is it me or does it sound like its resonating a little.
I cant hear it but if there is any, its cause hes using a 3 prong flash hider and the prongs are the same length so it usually rings with or without a suppressor on.
Veri naise
I hate that twang from the harmonica . That’s a no for me dawg
At near about $600 before shipping and handling.. it's more then my gun. I don't see how this is a feasible solution at all.
Buy better guns, but it’s also not about the gun. It’s about your ears.
@@dustinfarnsworth174 thanks Captain Obvious..
I am an Army Veteran, I have some hearing loss, and I have Tinnitus.. I'm not getting younger, like most people. I value my hearing, or as the ear doctor said I may not have much hearing left in 20 years. 10.5" barreled 5.56 AR Pistol is not as quiet or feasible as it once was, I'd rather have a 12.5" Barrel with a fourward sound device to help my ears and this might be the route I take .. eventually.
Well, it’s a more feasible option than hearing loss. But go ahead and enjoy your hearing loss because it’s too expensive to be feasible. There are many options that are cheaper for suppression, but you’ll complain in 20 years that they were all still to expensive while paying for hearing aids.
@@dustinfarnsworth174 you dont warrant any further comments from me.
@@coppertopv365 doesn’t hurt my feelings. From your responses, it is clear you lack common sense.
Move the mic further from your mouth, we don’t need to hear you breathe
Suppressor not silencer. Just like magazine not clip
Semantics, however in the eyes of the law this is a silencer
First patent was called a silencer though.