Yoshi-P has expressed in the past his distaste for gacha, likely a prime reason why he was reluctant to include FF14 characters Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, so I'd be more surprised if he allowed Square Enix to include gacha!
7:16 not a free game, but Deep Rock Galactic does this exactly. You can switch between any "battle pass" ever released at will and grind out towards what you prefer as well, rather than it having a predetermined order of rewards.
Guild Wars 2 does this with PvP and WvW passes (called reward tracks). Not technically true battle passes, because you don't pay for them and you can also swap between them at will. A few are repeatable so that you can grind out entire armor sets, and at least one drops an item that is required to craft a legendary item.
The technical limitations for housing always felt like more of an excuse to force players to continue to pay for a sub rather than an actual limitation.
These takes make me almost agree with people that say housing should've been FC only because y'all are so dumb 😭 Love from someone with a personal Large house ❤
It's more so working in IT long enough to know the term "technical limitation" is thrown around far more than it should. SE being no exception. As a general rule I'm always skeptical of broad reasoning while also being open minded. It's just a healthy mentality to have.
The easiest comparison of a large open world mobile game that comes to my mind is Genshin, and that's 35-40 gb after a few iterations of optimizations.
the only resource really being taken, if at all is budget, and there's probably a tiny bit of manpower in the form of some people from the main team overseeing things, probably no more than 5 people, as a guess
This statement (to me) sounds like someone that got a list of FFXIV features with one line descriptions and a passing knowledge of FFXIV but really hasn't played the game...
Among Us was huge here in Australia... on mobile. Most young folk I know who play Minecraft first played it on iPad. Mobile is huge, gamers just don't like to acknowledge it.
Gamers don't like to acknowledge it, because the market for mobile is very exploitative and manipulative. Casinos and drugs are massively influential, but we don't go around talking about addiction like it is a good thing. I acknowledge the reach mobile games have. I also acknowledge the poor market, specifically in regards to monetisation practices, the poor controls, touch and tilt are bad and don't respond precisely, poor regulatory practices, in regards to protecting indie copyright and consumer protection, and *shit library*. Though we do admit the last one is my opinion. The only traditional gaming medium I can compare the mobile market to is Wii Shovelware. And even then, I still play my Wii occasionally.
You described handheld gaming. That has been around and popular since the early 90‘s when the original Gameboy released. When people talk about mobile gaming they usually talk about the predatory market that preys on human psychology in the vast majority of its „games“ that prioritize maximizing profit by exploiting every angle they can. Just because you can play a non-predatory product on the phone doesn‘t mean that it isn’t in most cases a consumer unfriendly platform. Gamers know this, hence the skepticism for FFXIV mobile or products like Diablo Immortal in the past before it released. Also yes, mobile is huge, noone denies that. That‘s why gamers react negatively to it in the first place. Because its awful practices seep onto other platforms gamers use. If it was a niche market no one would pay attention to it, but because its huge and because companies can milk people on phones with „games“ they try to incorporate the same scummy practices in actual games. Anyways, I hope FFXIV mobile will not fall into any of that, but I‘m skeptical. Time will tell.
@@thenameisalreadyused5046 It's wild when people act like the flak the mobile market gets is undeserved. Both you and I clapped back with two immediate responses that shredded it, and we barely tackled 1% of the problems the mobile market has. Reminded of a bit of a meme: "Tell us you don't play video games without telling us you don't play video games." Because if all you experienced is watered down versions of games without full controls, skinner boxes, and idlers... then yeah, of course mobile games look fine. If you have experienced the full gamut from early arcade and Atari console titles all the way to modern, cinematic Triple AAA character action games on PC... then the mobile market looks like garbage. The flak shouldn't just be deserved, it should be expected and prepared for.
@@thenameisalreadyused5046 me too, heck i am aspiring game developer somewhat targetting mobile but seeing how many gacha and psychology predatory market, im afraid my games will became obsecured in there. it felt like a curse when you heard the word "mobile" due to this lol
I'm excited. Even if it's not as good as the main game, I'll be playing it when I'm outdoors when I have downtime, and having it not push me so hard to spend gacha money is a huge plus since my self control isn't great.
will be super interesting to see how they can modernize such a huge MMO to a mobile device and what game-play/rotations/boss battles look like.. since im a huge FF fan, will def check it out.. but a lot of mobile games hardly keep my interest, esp any of the other FF mobile titles.. Epic Seven the only mobile game i've managed to keep up with over 3+ years.
It not being gacha should not be surprising (but I guess the types of mobile games available in the West is much more limited). The simplest thing I see them doing is just a Premium/VIP sub that allows to to use stuff like the marketboard and own a house. This is on top of the cosmetic store they'll have. I doubt they'll go through the KR/CN MMO upgrade gear system (which is a huge money earner) you see in games like Lineage, RO mobile, etc.)
Honestly, I'm looking forward to this if it is done well. Would be great if they can have it fully voiced as well. It will be much easier to get new players to give it a try on Mobile if it is voiced.
I'm looking forward to it because it may be the best chance I have of getting my mom to play the game. I know she'd enjoy the story since she loves anime. She just doesn't have time to sit at her laptop and play. She already cycles through other mobile games though for short bursts at a time. It'd be fun to play casually with her.
Honestly my biggest fear is that the mobile game will have the wrong consequences for the main game. That they will at the end of the day develop the main game systems so that it will translate easily to mobile which means more instance things instead of finally working on the open world. More simplification to accommodate for mobile controls or just shorter content to easily translate it into the mobile system of short burst gameplay. Of course we could see experimentations in mobile that are good and then implemented into the main game or even more money income that's used for it (as if) but imo I don't have much trust left after still having limited races after so many years or gear still cutting of racial features. At the end of the day I only see more cash shop items being added...
realy hope thats gonna be adaptation wiht crossplay, maybe we get new servers as well, getting a South America server too be realy cool having crossply is the best thing you culd have in this case be it XIV or XIV-M
To anybody not taking this seriously or wondering why they're doing it or not trusting this: It's to capture the Gen Z and Gen Alpha market. Thor of PirateSoftware has spoken about this. Most kids these days haven't grown up on controllers, let alone mouse and keyboard. PCs and now consoles are stupid expensive, and that's only going to get worse. But most kids are ALSO raised... on tablets. (Yeah, that's expensive too, but for some reason people find their expense more acceptable). They're accustomed to touch screes and mostly haven't been exposed to physical controls for games. He was demoing a game at a convention once, and most of the young children who walked up to their display pushed aside the controllers to try and touch the monitors because they *didn't recognize what the controllers were* Yoshi-P has frequently said that keeping FFXIV alive requires them to constantly attract new players... and this is one way to do that. I can't imagine playing Savage or Ultimate content from a touch screen. I've felt the difference between using my phone or PC with Genshin Impact... and the Mouse+Keyboard controls are vastly superior. But maybe they'll surprise us and we're just too damn old.
I'm interested in seeing how this plays out, while at the same time not really being overly hyped to get it. I'll definitely give it a try but I'm not stressed about it. All of the "How dare Square spend time and money on developing this" when more than likely Square is getting paid for the licensing and they're not doing the development is hysterical though.
I wonder if you'll be able to play as your character or have to make a new one? And if you do use your SE account and sync in your character, will they ask for a sub for mobile?
Can this system be an unintentional story catchup mechanic? While the story can be a 1 to 1 replica, time could concievably be saved elsewhere (travelling etc...). Hence, for new folks coming 5 years from now, the recommendation could be to play mobile to story catchup and buy a skip on PC.
I *hope* not. I already have to deal with level 100 players who don't know not to stay in Ice phase as Black Mage or they are casting Cure I in a w2w. Not just "being suboptimal" and quite legitimately being 100 levels into an 11, almost 12, year old game and pressing like... 2 out of their 30 buttons. I can't imagine how much worse that would get were this the case.
I'm keeping an eye on this project. I'm hoping for but not expecting cross-play with the main game, but if the gameplay itself is good enough on mobile I may still try to use it to get my SO into the game.
Remember that Tower of Fantasy had a similar letter with similar talking points. Eh hem This is a game thats gonna come out in mainland china first, do not expect it to be generous whatsoever
.. i mean, as a player that got locked out of 7.0 by increased hardware requirements, i'd just about lick up anything ff14 that i can get my hands on these days 😭
Well, this is reassuring, because I just can't invest that much time in a mobile game. I was disappointed by Ever Crisis because all my time was just about repeating stuff to level my gear. Or missing out on gear because they are tied to events and I am too busy to play then, and I never really got into the story itself. It's why I loved DFFOO so much, as you could absolutely just do the story and not even bother with multiplayer or any of the events if you didn't have the time or motivation. It could be enjoyed by all.
I hope it's good, I'll check it out because I ultimately want it to be better than we expect, and for it to succeed. If it's not good, I won't play it. Simple as.
Ill be real, i expect this to meet the same fate as ff7 the first soldier. This will crash and burn horribly unless they give it a good reason to exist
I'm curious how they could simplify game mechanics in satisfying ways. What if they consolidate gear into the five roles XIV has so you can equip that Greatsword to any Tank? Could they increase character builds and diversity by focusing on things the main game has left behind like elemental damage or slash/blunt/pierce damage? I think that'd be fun to have preset characters with preset skills and abilities so they can increase variety. Make cool skills for NPCs like Raubahn or have different builds for an A Realm Reborn Job and it's Heavensward version.
Honestly, same opinion. It's gonna be hot garbage like 1.0 was. YoshiP you better concentrate on post dawntrail, your IP is already suffering this expansion.
If this game is stuffed with gacha, messed up schemes to make us pay, etc., I'm out. I like paying for a subscription because I know what I'm getting and it doesn't feel greedy. Sure people can play free games without paying anything as long as they're not impatient, but that's what makes free games grindier and cheaper in general. They had me initially with how earnest the letter seems, but certain elements put me on guard again.
I play gacha games and also love FFXIV so I feel like I'm the perfect demographic for this. Anyone else would hate a game that's heavily micro-monetized (and you'd be delusion to think this won't have a way more in-your-face version of the mogstation) but not me. As long as the rewards are good, I'll play it forever. I guess we'll see when it comes to the US.
Honestly, they could just be making a version that Switch can also play. Thats a massive market that current 14 cant access. Yeah, the rumored switch 2 might be able to find a way to run it, but it would be easier to just let switch owners have access to that version. Who knows but it will be interesting to see what the full final product will be.
Taking this with a large grain of salt since not only is this a game being made by a dev under Tencent but it's also free to play so I just know there are going to be microtransactions of some kind. Like I know FF14 has them but I fear the ones for mobile will be even worse to make up for the fact this game is free to play.
It's amazing how much discussion is going on and the release date is so close and no one knows anything about how this will actually play. Keeping my expectations rock bottom.
no confidence in this what so ever, its moble, it may not have gotcha, but there are many other ways to get money out of you, like a stamina system for instance.
Looking forward to seeing the job reworks of 8.0 literally just be the braindead 6 button phone version rotations copied over to PC so they don't have to make multiple rotations per game. :^)
I have no confidence in this game whatsoever, seems like a waste of resources from SE. Plus every ffxiv youtuber being sponsored to make videos promoting this makes me extremely wary of this news. It seems rather astroturfed.
imagine how wondrous FF14(the real one) would be if they just let them use the money it makes to make the game better, and not squander it on nonsense like this. this mobile game will be garbage.
This all sounds great, they just need to not call it ffxiv. Call it “Final Fantasy: Eorzia Adventures” or something, and market it as “new views in the world of Final Fantasy 14”, just not “THIS IS 14”
I don't care about what the mobile game is. I'm scared it will influence the MAIN GAME super negatively. Enough to kill off the game permanently. Square CANNOT resist killing off their game for short term failure that keep failling in the long term.
I'll pass, I tried Mobile but it's just not fun, and not even FF14 will be able to make it fun. Hope they end up putting more money into FF14 if it works out.
No, this project has taken away your sub money from ffxiv. This mobileshit game is instead of the next piece of content in the real game. This is a massive loss
This project has not taken sub money from ffxiv lol outside of the devs already working on FFXIV who are helping to supervise Lightspeed's devs, which is like, an extra meeting a week lol
I am definitely on the fence about this. Just honestly not excited, but don't necessarily hate the idea of a xiv mobile either. Never really been into phone games tbh
As soon as you said "stamina system" I had a ptsd moment of 1.0 fatigue
I dare say it's gonna make a comeback in a very not spectacular way
Stamina system more like energy system from most gacha games
Or TP from 2.0
I remember those days...
That system is made to keep you away from addiction
no gacha systems? that's genuinely surprising. guessing the stamina systems and glamor will be heavily monetized then.
if the last 3 FF gacha's had anything to say in it will be VERY predatory
Yoshi-P has expressed in the past his distaste for gacha, likely a prime reason why he was reluctant to include FF14 characters Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, so I'd be more surprised if he allowed Square Enix to include gacha!
Stamina hahaha
7:16 not a free game, but Deep Rock Galactic does this exactly. You can switch between any "battle pass" ever released at will and grind out towards what you prefer as well, rather than it having a predetermined order of rewards.
Helldivers 2 too iirc
Guild Wars 2 does this with PvP and WvW passes (called reward tracks). Not technically true battle passes, because you don't pay for them and you can also swap between them at will. A few are repeatable so that you can grind out entire armor sets, and at least one drops an item that is required to craft a legendary item.
The technical limitations for housing always felt like more of an excuse to force players to continue to pay for a sub rather than an actual limitation.
These takes make me almost agree with people that say housing should've been FC only because y'all are so dumb 😭
Love from someone with a personal Large house ❤
It's more so working in IT long enough to know the term "technical limitation" is thrown around far more than it should. SE being no exception.
As a general rule I'm always skeptical of broad reasoning while also being open minded. It's just a healthy mentality to have.
@@suros8105 Why are you like this
@@LivvieLynn Working in IT and game development are not the same...
@@MarcusMaybenot I use the term IT broadly which would include the software engineering aspects of game development.
my question is how big will the game file will be?
Half of your phone's HD 😃
😂@@Adeon55
Prob same size as current genshin mobile
The easiest comparison of a large open world mobile game that comes to my mind is Genshin, and that's 35-40 gb after a few iterations of optimizations.
They can do as they please as long as it doesn't take resources and manpower away from the main game.
the only resource really being taken, if at all is budget, and there's probably a tiny bit of manpower in the form of some people from the main team overseeing things, probably no more than 5 people, as a guess
Big "Hello, fellow WoL" energy.
This statement (to me) sounds like someone that got a list of FFXIV features with one line descriptions and a passing knowledge of FFXIV but really hasn't played the game...
This letter honestly is pretty nice to see. I can't wait to see what the mobile game is like.
Among Us was huge here in Australia... on mobile. Most young folk I know who play Minecraft first played it on iPad. Mobile is huge, gamers just don't like to acknowledge it.
Gamers don't like to acknowledge it, because the market for mobile is very exploitative and manipulative.
Casinos and drugs are massively influential, but we don't go around talking about addiction like it is a good thing.
I acknowledge the reach mobile games have. I also acknowledge the poor market, specifically in regards to monetisation practices, the poor controls, touch and tilt are bad and don't respond precisely, poor regulatory practices, in regards to protecting indie copyright and consumer protection, and *shit library*. Though we do admit the last one is my opinion. The only traditional gaming medium I can compare the mobile market to is Wii Shovelware. And even then, I still play my Wii occasionally.
You described handheld gaming. That has been around and popular since the early 90‘s when the original Gameboy released.
When people talk about mobile gaming they usually talk about the predatory market that preys on human psychology in the vast majority of its „games“ that prioritize maximizing profit by exploiting every angle they can.
Just because you can play a non-predatory product on the phone doesn‘t mean that it isn’t in most cases a consumer unfriendly platform. Gamers know this, hence the skepticism for FFXIV mobile or products like Diablo Immortal in the past before it released.
Also yes, mobile is huge, noone denies that. That‘s why gamers react negatively to it in the first place. Because its awful practices seep onto other platforms gamers use. If it was a niche market no one would pay attention to it, but because its huge and because companies can milk people on phones with „games“ they try to incorporate the same scummy practices in actual games.
Anyways, I hope FFXIV mobile will not fall into any of that, but I‘m skeptical. Time will tell.
@@thenameisalreadyused5046 It's wild when people act like the flak the mobile market gets is undeserved. Both you and I clapped back with two immediate responses that shredded it, and we barely tackled 1% of the problems the mobile market has.
Reminded of a bit of a meme: "Tell us you don't play video games without telling us you don't play video games." Because if all you experienced is watered down versions of games without full controls, skinner boxes, and idlers... then yeah, of course mobile games look fine. If you have experienced the full gamut from early arcade and Atari console titles all the way to modern, cinematic Triple AAA character action games on PC... then the mobile market looks like garbage.
The flak shouldn't just be deserved, it should be expected and prepared for.
@@thenameisalreadyused5046 me too, heck i am aspiring game developer somewhat targetting mobile
but seeing how many gacha and psychology predatory market, im afraid my games will became obsecured in there. it felt like a curse when you heard the word "mobile" due to this lol
XIV on mobile by the PUBG Mobile team. Color me skeptical.
LightSpeed Studios is a division of Tencent Games. I hope it is good, but am similarly colored skeptical.
you should be skeptical and assume its gonna play like BDO mobile
Pubg mobile monetisation is not that bad
@@KevinSatron Dont care. But it was the optimization and rampant cheating that was the issue (and left unckecked).
I'm excited. Even if it's not as good as the main game, I'll be playing it when I'm outdoors when I have downtime, and having it not push me so hard to spend gacha money is a huge plus since my self control isn't great.
You pretty much told them make it a gacha, because I'm a sucker. 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
will be super interesting to see how they can modernize such a huge MMO to a mobile device and what game-play/rotations/boss battles look like..
since im a huge FF fan, will def check it out.. but a lot of mobile games hardly keep my interest, esp any of the other FF mobile titles.. Epic Seven the only mobile game i've managed to keep up with over 3+ years.
It not being gacha should not be surprising (but I guess the types of mobile games available in the West is much more limited). The simplest thing I see them doing is just a Premium/VIP sub that allows to to use stuff like the marketboard and own a house. This is on top of the cosmetic store they'll have. I doubt they'll go through the KR/CN MMO upgrade gear system (which is a huge money earner) you see in games like Lineage, RO mobile, etc.)
Honestly, I'm looking forward to this if it is done well.
Would be great if they can have it fully voiced as well.
It will be much easier to get new players to give it a try on Mobile if it is voiced.
The number one goal of the mobile version is to make money. Anything else is cope.
I'm looking forward to it because it may be the best chance I have of getting my mom to play the game. I know she'd enjoy the story since she loves anime. She just doesn't have time to sit at her laptop and play. She already cycles through other mobile games though for short bursts at a time. It'd be fun to play casually with her.
@7:18 Minecraft Dungeons does that where each battle pass is preeminent and always available even if a new one is released.
Got a zfold 6 with 1TB of storage. I'm ready for it
Honestly my biggest fear is that the mobile game will have the wrong consequences for the main game.
That they will at the end of the day develop the main game systems so that it will translate easily to mobile which means more instance things instead of finally working on the open world.
More simplification to accommodate for mobile controls or just shorter content to easily translate it into the mobile system of short burst gameplay.
Of course we could see experimentations in mobile that are good and then implemented into the main game or even more money income that's used for it (as if) but imo I don't have much trust left after still having limited races after so many years or gear still cutting of racial features.
At the end of the day I only see more cash shop items being added...
realy hope thats gonna be adaptation wiht crossplay, maybe we get new servers as well, getting a South America server too be realy cool having crossply is the best thing you culd have in this case be it XIV or XIV-M
To anybody not taking this seriously or wondering why they're doing it or not trusting this: It's to capture the Gen Z and Gen Alpha market.
Thor of PirateSoftware has spoken about this. Most kids these days haven't grown up on controllers, let alone mouse and keyboard. PCs and now consoles are stupid expensive, and that's only going to get worse. But most kids are ALSO raised... on tablets. (Yeah, that's expensive too, but for some reason people find their expense more acceptable). They're accustomed to touch screes and mostly haven't been exposed to physical controls for games. He was demoing a game at a convention once, and most of the young children who walked up to their display pushed aside the controllers to try and touch the monitors because they *didn't recognize what the controllers were*
Yoshi-P has frequently said that keeping FFXIV alive requires them to constantly attract new players... and this is one way to do that.
I can't imagine playing Savage or Ultimate content from a touch screen. I've felt the difference between using my phone or PC with Genshin Impact... and the Mouse+Keyboard controls are vastly superior.
But maybe they'll surprise us and we're just too damn old.
Watch 14 mobile do a 11-style house for everyone
I just hope they don't force us to play with rewards for the main game. I really don't like mobile games, but I do trust Yoshi-P so I hope it's good.
I'm interested in seeing how this plays out, while at the same time not really being overly hyped to get it. I'll definitely give it a try but I'm not stressed about it. All of the "How dare Square spend time and money on developing this" when more than likely Square is getting paid for the licensing and they're not doing the development is hysterical though.
Hmm if i could do gathering/crafting?
A Decent battlepass fit so well in the actual patch content and cadence, maybe the main monetisation will be by BP
I wonder if you'll be able to play as your character or have to make a new one? And if you do use your SE account and sync in your character, will they ask for a sub for mobile?
So happy, you progging UWU ultimate on mobile FFXIV?
I'm glad to see future xiv expansions to be affected by this too.
Can this system be an unintentional story catchup mechanic? While the story can be a 1 to 1 replica, time could concievably be saved elsewhere (travelling etc...). Hence, for new folks coming 5 years from now, the recommendation could be to play mobile to story catchup and buy a skip on PC.
I *hope* not. I already have to deal with level 100 players who don't know not to stay in Ice phase as Black Mage or they are casting Cure I in a w2w. Not just "being suboptimal" and quite legitimately being 100 levels into an 11, almost 12, year old game and pressing like... 2 out of their 30 buttons.
I can't imagine how much worse that would get were this the case.
I'm keeping an eye on this project. I'm hoping for but not expecting cross-play with the main game, but if the gameplay itself is good enough on mobile I may still try to use it to get my SO into the game.
I should mention I would count our WoL being shared across platforms, but not being able to play full release alongside mobile players as cross-play.
Theres no reason to expect crossplay with the main game. They've repeatedly stated its a separate title
The amount of explanation they had to post about this pretty much spells out the amount of reception this will have. 😊
Remember that Tower of Fantasy had a similar letter with similar talking points.
Eh hem
This is a game thats gonna come out in mainland china first, do not expect it to be generous whatsoever
Square mobile games normally close their servers soon. Investing time in a game which will last for 3 or 4 years seems not interesting to me
Ok so basically they sell houses but ANYONE can get a house. There's the money shot.
I'm sure they have looked that current mobile mmorpgson market and have something that will be different. BDO MOBILE is still big.
Why is anyone optimistic about this? If this is the exception to the rule of mobile games I’m going to need some proof first.
Backend-wise, FFXIV runs on a Playstation 3. There’s no reason they can’t make it work on today’s mobile devices if they ease up on graphics.
.. i mean, as a player that got locked out of 7.0 by increased hardware requirements, i'd just about lick up anything ff14 that i can get my hands on these days 😭
Well, this is reassuring, because I just can't invest that much time in a mobile game. I was disappointed by Ever Crisis because all my time was just about repeating stuff to level my gear. Or missing out on gear because they are tied to events and I am too busy to play then, and I never really got into the story itself. It's why I loved DFFOO so much, as you could absolutely just do the story and not even bother with multiplayer or any of the events if you didn't have the time or motivation. It could be enjoyed by all.
"just on fantasia sales" XD
If they charge for glamor prisms then EVERYTHING ELSE could be free.
I hope it's good, I'll check it out because I ultimately want it to be better than we expect, and for it to succeed. If it's not good, I won't play it. Simple as.
Ill be real, i expect this to meet the same fate as ff7 the first soldier. This will crash and burn horribly unless they give it a good reason to exist
I'm curious how they could simplify game mechanics in satisfying ways. What if they consolidate gear into the five roles XIV has so you can equip that Greatsword to any Tank? Could they increase character builds and diversity by focusing on things the main game has left behind like elemental damage or slash/blunt/pierce damage? I think that'd be fun to have preset characters with preset skills and abilities so they can increase variety. Make cool skills for NPCs like Raubahn or have different builds for an A Realm Reborn Job and it's Heavensward version.
Hali infinite has a good battle pass
NOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS WITH FANTASIAS AAAA
7:30 Helldivers 2 did this
"Complex FATE mechanics" just assured me that this letter was nothing but hot air. It's just a bunch of buzzwords.
Honestly, same opinion. It's gonna be hot garbage like 1.0 was. YoshiP you better concentrate on post dawntrail, your IP is already suffering this expansion.
Yup its a chinese mobileshit game. Nothing new under the sun.
These similes are tedious. Just like running Aurum Vale to grind light for my relic weapon!
If this game is stuffed with gacha, messed up schemes to make us pay, etc., I'm out. I like paying for a subscription because I know what I'm getting and it doesn't feel greedy. Sure people can play free games without paying anything as long as they're not impatient, but that's what makes free games grindier and cheaper in general. They had me initially with how earnest the letter seems, but certain elements put me on guard again.
I play gacha games and also love FFXIV so I feel like I'm the perfect demographic for this. Anyone else would hate a game that's heavily micro-monetized (and you'd be delusion to think this won't have a way more in-your-face version of the mogstation) but not me. As long as the rewards are good, I'll play it forever. I guess we'll see when it comes to the US.
Honestly, they could just be making a version that Switch can also play. Thats a massive market that current 14 cant access. Yeah, the rumored switch 2 might be able to find a way to run it, but it would be easier to just let switch owners have access to that version. Who knows but it will be interesting to see what the full final product will be.
Hey Hap Hap, hope you're having a great day. That's all!
South America MENTIONED
Taking this with a large grain of salt since not only is this a game being made by a dev under Tencent but it's also free to play so I just know there are going to be microtransactions of some kind. Like I know FF14 has them but I fear the ones for mobile will be even worse to make up for the fact this game is free to play.
Iirc the only game i can think of with a permanent BP is Death Note that was released recently. They got 2 BP tracks when i last played
I think AFK Journey also had one? I know theres another for sure
Not this warrior of light
7:42 you are probably thinking halo infinite. Their battle passes don’t expire unless they’ve changed things.
Nah it was a proper mobile game, think AFK Journey or something
It's amazing how much discussion is going on and the release date is so close and no one knows anything about how this will actually play. Keeping my expectations rock bottom.
My phones going to explode 😭
20:25 Hawk Tuah
Its a chinese phone game. Thats a fuck no from me.
So you're telling me I can finally grind MGP during downtime at work...
nope
no confidence in this what so ever, its moble, it may not have gotcha, but there are many other ways to get money out of you, like a stamina system for instance.
If I could level my characters on mobile that would be the best thing ever!
I think this is just ARR, I don’t think we will be able to play expansions after it.
@@-UwU-catgirl- it is
if things do workout for this, everyone gonna afk in limsa mobile instead cos its f2p
Looking forward to seeing the job reworks of 8.0 literally just be the braindead 6 button phone version rotations copied over to PC so they don't have to make multiple rotations per game. :^)
That's what I am thinking too. This is what the "streamlining" is for.
Pay to win autoplay mobile game.
Yeah I think this is going to be a hard pass for me. I’m open to trying it but I don’t have hopes for this.
I have no confidence in this game whatsoever, seems like a waste of resources from SE. Plus every ffxiv youtuber being sponsored to make videos promoting this makes me extremely wary of this news. It seems rather astroturfed.
Ya this is going yo be exactly what you expect. Its a massive L
SE Taking money from FFXIV to fund literally anything besides FFXIV? Inconceivable.
Square Enix isn't the one developing this
They already lost me at micro-transactions
imagine how wondrous FF14(the real one) would be if they just let them use the money it makes to make the game better, and not squander it on nonsense like this.
this mobile game will be garbage.
Square Enix isn't the one developing this
Nothing but meaningless words
This all sounds great, they just need to not call it ffxiv. Call it “Final Fantasy: Eorzia Adventures” or something, and market it as “new views in the world of Final Fantasy 14”, just not “THIS IS 14”
I don't care about what the mobile game is.
I'm scared it will influence the MAIN GAME super negatively. Enough to kill off the game permanently. Square CANNOT resist killing off their game for short term failure that keep failling in the long term.
Comment section: "I can't believe they would divert my Final Fantasy 18 development resources for a mobile game! 😢😢😢"
I'll pass, I tried Mobile but it's just not fun, and not even FF14 will be able to make it fun. Hope they end up putting more money into FF14 if it works out.
No, this project has taken away your sub money from ffxiv. This mobileshit game is instead of the next piece of content in the real game. This is a massive loss
This project has not taken sub money from ffxiv lol outside of the devs already working on FFXIV who are helping to supervise Lightspeed's devs, which is like, an extra meeting a week lol
You know it's a bit of a content drought when everyone is getting hype over a mobile game.
Content drought for basically only casuals lol
More like the calm before Ult, I think
@@evanczthehunter57True and real bro, skill drought in the community for a long time.
if your not in a successful guild its a big content drought, pvp is a joke too.
squenix: greeting wol we-
me: I DON'T GIVE A SH!T I'M NOT DOWNLOADING YOUR CRAP CHINESE GAME!
this sounds like a really terrible idea :(
I am definitely on the fence about this. Just honestly not excited, but don't necessarily hate the idea of a xiv mobile either. Never really been into phone games tbh