I remember when my son was at primary school and I took him to school to apologise to his teacher for being "naughty." In front of us was a parent swearing at the teacher in front of their son telling them "don't listen to the teacher you can do what you want" That child is now in jail...... Not his fault, so sad. Its about the parents pushing kids and respecting teachers
The resistance against helping your children get educated is unbelievable. Parents are failing their children. Great at providing reasons why not, rather than why
Parents should not be relying on the schools to be solely educating their children. That’s why the current crop are in the position they’re in. Hats off to this head teacher!!!!! 👏🏽
1. No one forced you to be a teacher. It's a choice. 2. If a parent doesn't have time to do homework, then when do they have time to discipline their children? My compassion for neglectful parenting lies with the child, not the parent. You had them, the kids don't get a choice. Ask for help and support if you need it. Adults are supposed to do hard things for kids period. Helping your child learn IS quality time. My mom used to teach me math with card games. We worked on working memory with matching games. She read to me most nights which inspired my love of literature and I was reading by 3-4 years old because she taught me the letter sounds.
Some homework is ok, but not hours of homework. Imagine if you have to do 3hrs of work everyday after you come home from work. Same for kids. We all need time to rest our minds.
I had a normal amount of homework all through school. And from grade 4 onward - a private bedroom with a desk to do it. I had regulated TV time, I had loads of time outdoors after supper if I got my homework done (between 4 and 5:30pm, which was often the case.) I sometimes saved 2 or 3 hours of it for weekends, in which most if not all of that was done between 6am-8am in the morning because I was an early riser by habit. My point being, I had loads of time in my life outside of school or homework to do all kinds of things. Schoolwork and homework never got in the way. Sports, weekend downtown Main Street carousing, movies, shopping, fun. Hanging out with local friends. Just having a normal social life. I was always out. A wandering lad. A curious kid. What was the purpose of homework? Mostly to familiarize myself with subjects and topics for classroom discussion, tests and exams. The more I did homework, the better I got at it. There was no "war" or rebellion surrounding it. It was not weaponized. It was understood that it was an important and necessary part of the process of learning. It was never four or five hours' worth after school. It was often 45 minutes or less. There were times that I put in more time than was necessary because the topic I was going over happened to fascinate me. And after grade three - no-one ever helped me with my homework. I did it on my own. There were even times I held court at the supper table, just because I wanted some feedback on what I was learning. If homework has turned into some monster that chews up an extra 20 home hours a week of a student's time - then there's something wrong with the way it's set up, and probably something wrong with the balance of school/home learning. I was a normal, average student. Who possessed normal, average working skills. Yes, my home was controlled, placid, mellow, normal, and mostly conducive to being academically productive. I could easily while away 3 or 4 hours a night reading, if the weather outside was crappy and I didn't feel like going out after supper. There was never madhouse, mayhem or lack of privacy. I could go on and on about this - but I think something misses the boat on this one, if the thinking is all or nothing. Homework does not replace school time. Neither is it toxic in itself - except and unless in homes whose atmosphere completely destroys a child's ability to concentrate. Or if that child is determined to go from 6pm to 10pm every night solidly plugged into a device that has nothing whatsoever to do with academic activity. (Dumb phones.) We have created all kinds of modern social nuance that is antithetical to academic evolution in a kid's life. That is not the fault of academia in and of itself. But we need to address the real reasons why homework has apparently turned into something so toxic as what is alluded to here.
Some other countries (with better education) had longer school days, all work done during 'spares' which were schoolwork completion. Kids took no work home. Home was relax, family.
Some of the best educational systems are also from countries with incredibly short school days (compared to Asian countries as well as America). The standard is just way higher, the systems are way better, and they have a homogenous student body. The homogenous student body isn't something to strive for, but it is a metric that matters when you consider the data.
I grew up with two Chinese parents who practically sold their kidneys to enable me to have a good education. My immigrant parents who barely spoke English themselves helped me read every book, work on every math problem and encouraged me to enjoy learning. I cannot for the life of me understand the attitude of some of these presenters.
Homework should be banned if teachers are unable to provide students with creative, imaginative and interesting work. On the other hand, if both teachers and students can find a common way to create homework that's not monotonous and truly helpful, then homework should be continued. It depends on different sorts of student-teacher relationships and every school should monitor their performance on this matter individually.
When I was a teacher, this was one of my biggest stances. I adamantly took a stance to severely limit homework. I've combed through studies, read books, listened to many lectures on the topic. The fact is that homework has a very limited ROI. In many cases, it is a negative return. Homework can work if it is timed correctly and isn't excessive. I love Katharine Birbalsingh, but I deviate from her on this topic. The issue with this video is the mom and KB are arguing about two completely different definitions of "homework". The mom is arguing against rote, time consuming, lifeless worksheets. KB is arguing for parents being active participants in the education process. Completely different things. The funny thing is that they are both right, but Piers can't get past his own bias, which made this conversation a waste of time, sadly.
Homework got me a full ride scholarship to study engineering. While you’re lazing In class, you are not committing anything to memory. Homework is essential. I spent 4-5 hours on homework every night and more on weekends Being a kid gives them plenty of time in the evening while they are young. But from 15 onwards they need to find serious time to commit stuff to memory, learn to build on what they’ve learned and how to think This 'no homework' idea is more nonsense. My single mom never had to spend time teaching me anything. We had approved instructional materials we could go to for help
The problem which this discussion does not discuss: I am sure that Pier´s daughter goes to a very good school. Mdme Birbal-Singh has a school that can choose who enters and who does not. You cannot compare a school of means with the average school who has to accept whomever is in their catchment area. No Piers, many parents cannot find tine for these things...until the government starts dealing with poverty.......so nice that people with privilege are so ignorant of the reality out there. Many parents had no business having children, BUT THEY DID!!!!!
Homework is unfair. Adults aren't assigned work to do at home are they? So why Force children to do work at home, which by the way they don't even get paid to do. It's not laziness of the parents, people are exhausted at the end of the day to come home and do homework with their children until late at night. The world should shift to making children happier not geniuses. Leave the kids alone!
Nobody expects children to be up late at night doing homework, we do not have a culture like South Korea with its late night cramming clubs. Children are supposed to have a curfew. Children are supposed to have several hours of homework a week which they should be able to do since school finishes at 15:00 and they have weekends.
I think Piers is a bit clueless about the current situation in British schools.... He needs to go visit some houses of the families within the underperforming schools..... Its damage control.... Some kids benefit from homework... Some dont.... Its not a one size fits all...
😭 😭 😭 Show us the stats for those children who don't respond to homework as adults. 🤷🏿♂️ 😪 We shouldn't coddle children, we are preparing them for the real world.
From my view, all institutional school homework should be abolished. How much time do children get after school for free thought, solitude, getting to know themselves and pondering on the big questions? I remember being at school all day at least five days a week, jumping from class to class, then as soon as I came home, I wanted to go out and play football and other fun activities, but in the back of my mind I knew homework needed to be done, which I dreaded to do and felt mentally drained from the day.
There has to be time for parents and children without school work again .name homework is wrong actually its your school work taking over your lifeeven art home.
No the children have no time left to spend with their parents they wake up early and go to school when they come back they are tired and want to relax then thers home work actually school work at home.this head teacher is a controle freek
I disagree with Piers. Homework serves no real benefit to children in later life. They learn at school and home is their place to escape. They shouldn’t have to add more work to them, they get enough of it from the five-six hours at school. Same for the parents, they work all day, why add more work for them to do by having them help with the child’s work? Home is a place to escape from work, not add more to it.
Homework is work, but homework is given not because someone wants a learner to get exausted, but because frequent repetition is what helps remember and master knowledge, and homework is a repetition you do at home. They have a subject 2 times a week at school on Tue and Fri, they can do homework a day before the lesson, on Monday and Thu, and they have 4 lessons a week. You repeat this thing twice as much!
@@Satanclaus34 I disagree. Home should be a place for children to relax and let their minds set. I don’t see how homework helps. Too much work load is too much for them. It’s not like revising for an exam.
I think this is very different depending on the child/family..... Homework is a wasted extra pressure if you are giving it to a child with exhausted parents or a chaotic homelife.... But on the flipside if a child has a calm, attentive, time-rich family then you can use those resources to take pressure off teachers.... I think the schools need to understand the childs whole environment then adjust.... Not sure if that is a breach of privacy... But its reality...
@@mnb9162 I disagree. I don’t think Children should have homework full stop. Home is a place for them to be children, a place for them to play, relax and get “work” out of their minds till the next day. If it was College or University I can understand as that’s prepping them for adult life. But not when they just young kids, they need time to take a break from school work.
@@JackassJunior627 In my childhood, it would have been pretty weird to inhabit a non-academic home. Academics was not a "work load." They were just the tweaks and thrills of an average curious kid. By grade four I was having learned discussions with kids in the neighborhood about everything under the sun. So, "relaxing and letting my mind set?" What is that supposed to mean? Flipping through a dumb phone for 8 hours straight? Learning to turn off a mind's natural curiosity? The one thing I will agree with: homework should not exceed a certain number of hours in a week. It is easy to go way overboard on this, true. But we don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater, either. It could be that the revulsion toward homework currently is also because there is a revulsion toward academics entirely. Observe how many high school seniors are stuck reading at a grade 5 level, do not know their or anyone else's history, are geographically clueless, do not possess basic scientific knowledge about anything - and appear to be completely disinterested in most anything other than pop culture. If all that is the fault of a broken school system, homework is only a very small part of it.
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I remember when my son was at primary school and I took him to school to apologise to his teacher for being "naughty." In front of us was a parent swearing at the teacher in front of their son telling them "don't listen to the teacher you can do what you want" That child is now in jail...... Not his fault, so sad. Its about the parents pushing kids and respecting teachers
The resistance against helping your children get educated is unbelievable. Parents are failing their children. Great at providing reasons why not, rather than why
It’s crazy how people are against educating children. It’s very sad.
Parents should not be relying on the schools to be solely educating their children. That’s why the current crop are in the position they’re in.
Hats off to this head teacher!!!!! 👏🏽
1. No one forced you to be a teacher. It's a choice.
2. If a parent doesn't have time to do homework, then when do they have time to discipline their children? My compassion for neglectful parenting lies with the child, not the parent. You had them, the kids don't get a choice. Ask for help and support if you need it.
Adults are supposed to do hard things for kids period. Helping your child learn IS quality time. My mom used to teach me math with card games. We worked on working memory with matching games. She read to me most nights which inspired my love of literature and I was reading by 3-4 years old because she taught me the letter sounds.
My four kids were also reading before kindergarten. How? Games and time. Put your children first. You have them for such a short time. Enjoy it.
@@mysparky2011 exactly! It's so simple but things have changed so much that everything's electronic or on an app. That's not real play or learning.
Some homework is ok, but not hours of homework. Imagine if you have to do 3hrs of work everyday after you come home from work. Same for kids. We all need time to rest our minds.
Pierce. He is so accurate
Top lad. Big man
I had a normal amount of homework all through school.
And from grade 4 onward - a private bedroom with a desk to do it.
I had regulated TV time, I had loads of time outdoors after supper if I got my homework done (between 4 and 5:30pm, which was often the case.)
I sometimes saved 2 or 3 hours of it for weekends, in which most if not all of that was done between 6am-8am in the morning because I was an early riser by habit.
My point being, I had loads of time in my life outside of school or homework to do all kinds of things. Schoolwork and homework never got in the way. Sports, weekend downtown Main Street carousing, movies, shopping, fun. Hanging out with local friends. Just having a normal social life. I was always out. A wandering lad. A curious kid.
What was the purpose of homework? Mostly to familiarize myself with subjects and topics for classroom discussion, tests and exams.
The more I did homework, the better I got at it. There was no "war" or rebellion surrounding it. It was not weaponized. It was understood that it was an important and necessary part of the process of learning.
It was never four or five hours' worth after school. It was often 45 minutes or less.
There were times that I put in more time than was necessary because the topic I was going over happened to fascinate me.
And after grade three - no-one ever helped me with my homework. I did it on my own.
There were even times I held court at the supper table, just because I wanted some feedback on what I was learning.
If homework has turned into some monster that chews up an extra 20 home hours a week of a student's time - then there's something wrong with the way it's set up, and probably something wrong with the balance of school/home learning.
I was a normal, average student. Who possessed normal, average working skills.
Yes, my home was controlled, placid, mellow, normal, and mostly conducive to being academically productive.
I could easily while away 3 or 4 hours a night reading, if the weather outside was crappy and I didn't feel like going out after supper. There was never madhouse, mayhem or lack of privacy.
I could go on and on about this - but I think something misses the boat on this one, if the thinking is all or nothing. Homework does not replace school time. Neither is it toxic in itself - except and unless in homes whose atmosphere completely destroys a child's ability to concentrate. Or if that child is determined to go from 6pm to 10pm every night solidly plugged into a device that has nothing whatsoever to do with academic activity.
(Dumb phones.)
We have created all kinds of modern social nuance that is antithetical to academic evolution in a kid's life. That is not the fault of academia in and of itself. But we need to address the real reasons why homework has apparently turned into something so toxic as what is alluded to here.
Parents who dont have time😂😂😂 geeeeeeee! Being a parent is a responsibilty, and you to carve out the time u can.
I’m with Piers Morgan on this one.. why do you have children if you can’t even be bothered to read a book together..
Reading a book together is good parenting, not homework.
Some other countries (with better education) had longer school days, all work done during 'spares' which were schoolwork completion. Kids took no work home. Home was relax, family.
Some of the best educational systems are also from countries with incredibly short school days (compared to Asian countries as well as America). The standard is just way higher, the systems are way better, and they have a homogenous student body. The homogenous student body isn't something to strive for, but it is a metric that matters when you consider the data.
The cross-talk in this episode is so obnoxious. Piers needs to be a better moderator, stop interrupting, and give the guests time to speak
Piers very much hindered the conversation. KB, the mom, and the other anchor could've gotten somewhere if Piers just stopped talking.
I grew up with two Chinese parents who practically sold their kidneys to enable me to have a good education. My immigrant parents who barely spoke English themselves helped me read every book, work on every math problem and encouraged me to enjoy learning. I cannot for the life of me understand the attitude of some of these presenters.
Homework should be banned if teachers are unable to provide students with creative, imaginative and interesting work. On the other hand, if both teachers and students can find a common way to create homework that's not monotonous and truly helpful, then homework should be continued. It depends on different sorts of student-teacher relationships and every school should monitor their performance on this matter individually.
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When I was a teacher, this was one of my biggest stances. I adamantly took a stance to severely limit homework. I've combed through studies, read books, listened to many lectures on the topic. The fact is that homework has a very limited ROI. In many cases, it is a negative return. Homework can work if it is timed correctly and isn't excessive. I love Katharine Birbalsingh, but I deviate from her on this topic. The issue with this video is the mom and KB are arguing about two completely different definitions of "homework". The mom is arguing against rote, time consuming, lifeless worksheets. KB is arguing for parents being active participants in the education process. Completely different things. The funny thing is that they are both right, but Piers can't get past his own bias, which made this conversation a waste of time, sadly.
Parents are making teachers work very difficult -
Homework got me a full ride scholarship to study engineering. While you’re lazing In class, you are not committing anything to memory. Homework is essential. I spent 4-5 hours on homework every night and more on weekends
Being a kid gives them plenty of time in the evening while they are young. But from 15 onwards they need to find serious time to commit stuff to memory, learn to build on what they’ve learned and how to think
This 'no homework' idea is more nonsense. My single mom never had to spend time teaching me anything. We had approved instructional materials we could go to for help
it would be lovely if these adults could stop shouting over each other.
homework reinforces what it is learned in the classroom!!!! you do not need to be a high IQ; it is only COMMON SENSE
The problem which this discussion does not discuss: I am sure that Pier´s daughter goes to a very good school. Mdme Birbal-Singh has a school that can choose who enters and who does not. You cannot compare a school of means with the average school who has to accept whomever is in their catchment area. No Piers, many parents cannot find tine for these things...until the government starts dealing with poverty.......so nice that people with privilege are so ignorant of the reality out there. Many parents had no business having children, BUT THEY DID!!!!!
I thought Birbalsingh's school had intake chosen by the council just like the other state schools? Am I missing something?
The Michaela school has no educational entry requirements - just a commitment from BOTH parents and children to follow the ethos of the school.
All the children in the comments here rejecting the idea of homework.
Katharine Birbalsingh is right
I looove the Michaela method but i dont like the concept of homework.
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Homework is unfair. Adults aren't assigned work to do at home are they? So why Force children to do work at home, which by the way they don't even get paid to do. It's not laziness of the parents, people are exhausted at the end of the day to come home and do homework with their children until late at night. The world should shift to making children happier not geniuses. Leave the kids alone!
Nobody expects children to be up late at night doing homework, we do not have a culture like South Korea with its late night cramming clubs. Children are supposed to have a curfew.
Children are supposed to have several hours of homework a week which they should be able to do since school finishes at 15:00 and they have weekends.
No way kids need education. Teachers should teach full stop.
The p;roblem with homework is teaching more garbage, rather than interesting things
I think Piers is a bit clueless about the current situation in British schools.... He needs to go visit some houses of the families within the underperforming schools..... Its damage control.... Some kids benefit from homework... Some dont.... Its not a one size fits all...
mnb correct
😭 😭 😭 Show us the stats for those children who don't respond to homework as adults. 🤷🏿♂️ 😪
We shouldn't coddle children, we are preparing them for the real world.
From my view, all institutional school homework should be abolished.
How much time do children get after school for free thought, solitude, getting to know themselves and pondering on the big questions? I remember being at school all day at least five days a week, jumping from class to class, then as soon as I came home, I wanted to go out and play football and other fun activities, but in the back of my mind I knew homework needed to be done, which I dreaded to do and felt mentally drained from the day.
Don't BAN it, don't require it.
There has to be time for parents and children without school work again .name homework is wrong actually its your school work taking over your lifeeven art home.
shes irish
I kind of agree with Piers... If you don't have time to spend quality time with your kids, DON'T HAVE KIDS!
Some time it’s not the homework 📚 it’s about teaching skills
No the children have no time left to spend with their parents they wake up early and go to school when they come back they are tired and want to relax then thers home work actually school work at home.this head teacher is a controle freek
Homework should be banned because a fifth grader shouldn't do unpaid overtime.
I disagree with Piers. Homework serves no real benefit to children in later life. They learn at school and home is their place to escape. They shouldn’t have to add more work to them, they get enough of it from the five-six hours at school.
Same for the parents, they work all day, why add more work for them to do by having them help with the child’s work?
Home is a place to escape from work, not add more to it.
Homework is work, but homework is given not because someone wants a learner to get exausted, but because frequent repetition is what helps remember and master knowledge, and homework is a repetition you do at home. They have a subject 2 times a week at school on Tue and Fri, they can do homework a day before the lesson, on Monday and Thu, and they have 4 lessons a week. You repeat this thing twice as much!
@@Satanclaus34 I disagree. Home should be a place for children to relax and let their minds set. I don’t see how homework helps. Too much work load is too much for them. It’s not like revising for an exam.
I think this is very different depending on the child/family..... Homework is a wasted extra pressure if you are giving it to a child with exhausted parents or a chaotic homelife.... But on the flipside if a child has a calm, attentive, time-rich family then you can use those resources to take pressure off teachers.... I think the schools need to understand the childs whole environment then adjust.... Not sure if that is a breach of privacy... But its reality...
@@mnb9162 I disagree. I don’t think Children should have homework full stop. Home is a place for them to be children, a place for them to play, relax and get “work” out of their minds till the next day. If it was College or University I can understand as that’s prepping them for adult life. But not when they just young kids, they need time to take a break from school work.
@@JackassJunior627 In my childhood, it would have been pretty weird to inhabit a non-academic home. Academics was not a "work load." They were just the tweaks and thrills of an average curious kid. By grade four I was having learned discussions with kids in the neighborhood about everything under the sun.
So, "relaxing and letting my mind set?"
What is that supposed to mean? Flipping through a dumb phone for 8 hours straight? Learning to turn off a mind's natural curiosity?
The one thing I will agree with: homework should not exceed a certain number of hours in a week. It is easy to go way overboard on this, true.
But we don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater, either.
It could be that the revulsion toward homework currently is also because there is a revulsion toward academics entirely.
Observe how many high school seniors are stuck reading at a grade 5 level, do not know their or anyone else's history, are geographically clueless, do not possess basic scientific knowledge about anything - and appear to be completely disinterested in most anything other than pop culture.
If all that is the fault of a broken school system, homework is only a very small part of it.