Still remember my year 7 french lessons with Ms Birbalsingh.. whilst other teachers couldn't control our class, her approach definitely kept everyone engaged :D
I used to command a Royal Air Force Air Cadets unit, basically a military based youth organisation for 12-18 year olds. My adult staff and myself ran a highly disciplined unit based on instilling self discipline which we promoted from the moment a ceded came through the door for the first time. We had great attendance and few real issues. One of the things which always made me realise that we were doing it right was when parents would call me, often at the end of their wits asking if their son/daughter was as uncontrollable and bad at cadets as they were at home. Invariably I’d have to answer that their child was good mannered, well disciplined, positive and a great young person. Whenever I looked further into it it would transpire that there was no structure or discipline at home instilled by the parents. People need standards to work to, goals to reach just within their grasp, positive things to aspire to but to do that they need people to set those standards and to encourage them to achieve.
St Katherine. Naughtiness are the seed of genius in dogs and cats. We have to focus universally so to speak God created the world. All of education/ learning is a balm. You are interesting. OK, Misha Patel my daughter is going to teach at Michaela. She would love to be good friends with you.
@@alisatoniian9718 she is following a religious template, but her rituals are not directed to any higher power, namely God. She has openly admitted she is not overly religious and doesnt necessarily believe in God
My husband is a wrestling coach. He has some really difficult boys, one is specifically the most rebellious. Ever since he put down the law and gave strict guidelines to him, he seems to like my husband more and gravitate more towards him for direction.
It’s true ..I used to be a teacher and most kids, especially the more difficult kids prefer strictness as long as they know the teacher is fair and cares.
They want guidelines and leadership. Children are well aware that they lack in skills and knowledge about the world and they look for this guidance they lack. But adults don't give it to them anymore... they expect them to find their way on their own.
Katharine is such a breath of fresh air. She makes such good sense and is not apologetic about it. Kids do need to be taught right from wrong, and to be proud of their country.
Thank you! I'd been a teacher 40 years ago, and 10 years ago won local, state and national awards for working with middle schoolers outside the classroom. Last year I tried to go back to teach middle schoolers, all of them from disadvantaged backgrounds. I lasted 3 weeks. The students exhibited the same disruptive behaviors you described. There was little to no engagement in the classroom, no joy for learning. The school's approach was restorative justice. I tried running a strict classroom, but got little support from the administration. I was threatened by two students, and they were not suspended. I was not even allowed to send them to detention. That's why I lasted just three weeks. They were the worst three weeks of my life.
I really like this lady... However, I am a governor in a Catholic primary school and we make everybody feel welcome. Of course, we'll prioritise our Christian students as we live in a secular society and would love our kids to understand that there is nothing wrong about being a Christian and we can be proud of it. And if people are not Christian ( i.e. Non-catholic), we just expect them to be respectful of our faith & practices. As it is a choice for them to choose a catholic school or not.
Dear Katherine BIRBALSINGH, I SO WISH you were my teacher while I was at school.Fortunately I had two teachers who were like you. My schooling in a public school took this term WOKISM in mid 70s..The standard degraded when we had a headmistress.. school uniforms started diminishing etc .. AND THE STANDARD TOO!!! I left school in 1976.. In AUSTRALIA UNFORTUNATELY THE BOOMERS who had GREAT FREE EDUCATION, went to universities and now have positions in the higher echelons of the society, DID nothing to SAVE THE GOOD EDUCATION SYSTEM in PUBLIC SCHOOLS, By sending their CHILDREN to PRIVATE SCHOOLS. The standard in BOTH SCHOOLS HAVE DEGRADED.. The WORLD NEEDS YOUR STANDARD, which I relate to DEEPLY!!! Thank you FOR BEING THE RIGHT VOICE 😊
Im an American so I may be misinterpreting some of the cultural subtext, but it felt to me like the interviewers were a british version of our evangelical Christians, who have the most passive aggressive elitism imaginable, and whose moral superiority is the side B of a record whose side A is puritanical woke liberalism. Could be wrong but that was my impression. Im always amazed to see that those two forces- woke liberalism and right wing evangelism- which i identify as pathologically American, have even more insufferable iterations in the UK. Katherine, on the other hand, is beyond awesome.
I’m American and I had no problem with them. The only comparison I’d make between the hosts and woke liberals is that they clearly care about their beliefs. I think they and Katherine were wonderful.
I believe there is a small number of evangelicals that are delving into the Woke stuff. I think most understand it to be marxist doctrine, or are totally ignorant of it, and, as I said, a small faction are falling for it. (EDITed to add I’m talking about the U.S.)
My dad was strict ex military Coptic Egyptian man I hated it and him even now I was standing waiting for green at 46 thinking why am i waiting every time?. I had moment and realised that it was because of him. I am disciplined in every area of my life. He died 2 years ago and just at that moment I wanted to cry. My mum is English and she was more laid back but she only had to look at me with those big piercing blue eyes if she was annoyed and I was scared.
In he late nineties I returned to my 1950ties senior school i ( Plumtree) in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe to teach- it had been white it is now "universal" and white and coloured kids are just the same ( some briliant some not so!). Some naughty some nice !
Extremally infesting how little the world of TH-cam haven't watched this podcast. They scheme but never learn. So very happy to follow your work Katharine. Always know the sane people love what you have proved works day after day. Also smile at reflection every morning you brush your hair. God bless.
About identity. I don't understand today's kids really. Their identities are sexage and colourage. If someone of my generation was asked about their identity, the answer used to be "artist", "writer", "metalhead", "raver", "dancer", "hacker"... It's like there's a growth that's been stunted, like they're stuck at the age of 3 wondering am I a boy? Am I a girl? I must be a cat!
This is because it’s what society (Hollywood, social media, schools) are foisting on them! The Marxist running government schools (and other schools) are putting this front and center on the kids.
Fighting over who God only further divides people. A lot of us grew up in Christian households, and know it’s culty, and have church trauma. You’re not going to get more new Christian’s in your cult by force. Take a new approach to make your religion more approachable. At least this woman is doing something beneficial what are you doing judge Judy ?
@@ariannagonzalez2618 Sorry if you went through that but your take is irrelevant. Historically these conservative ideas do come from the Bible and Christianity which is all the original comment was saying. In terms of judgement, practice when you preach. You’ve assumed a lot about the commenter over one sentence.
@@ab-gail Thank you so much @ab-gail! You said it much better than I could have. A nerve must have been hit for such a retort to come forth from arianna.
God is irresponsible with his gifts, casually tossing so much gold before swine and insisting that we are not swine.The devil tempts that he may ruin; God tests that he may crown
Children need discipline. The role of an adult is to teach, not to ask kids "what gender are you today?" (being somewhat facetious of course). Children feel safer with structure/discipline. 💚
~ Birbalsingh schooling is fine for normal children who want to learn academia. This type of schooling for the child who is an artist or sensitive in nature warps their outcome and delays their genius. We don't all fit in an egg carton. Unlearning or unschooling is best for the child that is their own.
For many years I thought I would unschool my children. Then one day a woman posted in a facebook homeschool group. She was unschooled and she said anyone could ask her anything. In some of her responses one thing she said stuck out to me "You don't know what you don't know". We are rarely atune to our own knowledge gaps. How can we expect our kids be atune to theirs? Unschooling falls into gentle parenting for me. In theory it is perfect, a truely beatuiful ideal, but in reality it doesn't work well. At least not very often. In many cases it turns into passive parenting or passive schooling. It is sooooo difficult to do effectively, because you have to be on and intune with your kids almost always. If you have more than one kid that is near impossible. Radical unschoolers give their kids free range on technology in the name of learning, which of course there is some of that going on but they are also exposed to places and ideas us parents would never allow in our home. They follow people on tick toc that we would never allow them to have as friends in real life. It is a complex subject, but I think what Ms. Birbalsingh is trying to say adults should always lead our youth. We have life experience and hopefully the maturaty to know what is best. A child has not gained that yet, so to trust them to make informed decisions about their own education is not wise.
She keeps calling herself a black woman. I never noticed her blackness until she pointed it out, and really I still don't see it. Anyway, I like her ideas for the most part.
Still remember my year 7 french lessons with Ms Birbalsingh.. whilst other teachers couldn't control our class, her approach definitely kept everyone engaged :D
I used to command a Royal Air Force Air Cadets unit, basically a military based youth organisation for 12-18 year olds. My adult staff and myself ran a highly disciplined unit based on instilling self discipline which we promoted from the moment a ceded came through the door for the first time. We had great attendance and few real issues.
One of the things which always made me realise that we were doing it right was when parents would call me, often at the end of their wits asking if their son/daughter was as uncontrollable and bad at cadets as they were at home. Invariably I’d have to answer that their child was good mannered, well disciplined, positive and a great young person. Whenever I looked further into it it would transpire that there was no structure or discipline at home instilled by the parents. People need standards to work to, goals to reach just within their grasp, positive things to aspire to but to do that they need people to set those standards and to encourage them to achieve.
So good to hear this success story. Keep up the good work.
She loves to learn. She loves to teach. She loves children. I want to be like her when I grow up!
i dont know how she does what she does without god. clearly god has been graceful through generations
St Katherine. Naughtiness are the seed of genius in dogs and cats. We have to focus universally so to speak God created the world. All of education/ learning is a balm. You are interesting. OK, Misha Patel my daughter is going to teach at Michaela. She would love to be good friends with you.
RITUAL WITHOUT MEANING!
There’s a lot of meaning tho - practicing self-discipline and self-control at least.
If you mean the school it does have meaning.
@@alisatoniian9718 she is following a religious template, but her rituals are not directed to any higher power, namely God.
She has openly admitted she is not overly religious and doesnt necessarily believe in God
@@abumaliha7266there is no real “meaning” in made up garbage like religion. Notice she gets results, while the religious wackos get nothing.
For you. For others, ritual does have meaning. Who are you to judge?
My husband is a wrestling coach. He has some really difficult boys, one is specifically the most rebellious. Ever since he put down the law and gave strict guidelines to him, he seems to like my husband more and gravitate more towards him for direction.
It’s true ..I used to be a teacher and most kids, especially the more difficult kids prefer strictness as long as they know the teacher is fair and cares.
They want guidelines and leadership. Children are well aware that they lack in skills and knowledge about the world and they look for this guidance they lack. But adults don't give it to them anymore... they expect them to find their way on their own.
Children thrive under strict leadership. That's just a fact.
@@nc0849that is true 👍
Birbalsingh makes me want to go back to school 60 years on.
Katharine is such a breath of fresh air. She makes such good sense and is not apologetic about it. Kids do need to be taught right from wrong, and to be proud of their country.
She's an absolute national treasure, wish more teachers were like her.
I just discovered her and love her. The voice of reason!
Thank you! I'd been a teacher 40 years ago, and 10 years ago won local, state and national awards for working with middle schoolers outside the classroom. Last year I tried to go back to teach middle schoolers, all of them from disadvantaged backgrounds. I lasted 3 weeks. The students exhibited the same disruptive behaviors you described. There was little to no engagement in the classroom, no joy for learning. The school's approach was restorative justice. I tried running a strict classroom, but got little support from the administration. I was threatened by two students, and they were not suspended. I was not even allowed to send them to detention. That's why I lasted just three weeks. They were the worst three weeks of my life.
Parents are narcissistic enablers who will attempt to have teachers fired rather than establish standards or boundaries. Their children are "special".
My Goodness - What the - - - - - - Hell . Holy cow !
Excellent podcast. Fascinating woman. 💚
I think this woman is amazing in her attitude.
Great podcast! Not just this episode but on the whole.
I really like this lady... However, I am a governor in a Catholic primary school and we make everybody feel welcome. Of course, we'll prioritise our Christian students as we live in a secular society and would love our kids to understand that there is nothing wrong about being a Christian and we can be proud of it.
And if people are not Christian ( i.e. Non-catholic), we just expect them to be respectful of our faith & practices. As it is a choice for them to choose a catholic school or not.
Dear Katherine BIRBALSINGH, I SO WISH you were my teacher while I was at school.Fortunately I had two teachers who were like you. My schooling in a public school took this term WOKISM in mid 70s..The standard degraded when we had a headmistress.. school uniforms started diminishing etc .. AND THE STANDARD TOO!!! I left school in 1976..
In AUSTRALIA UNFORTUNATELY THE BOOMERS who had GREAT FREE EDUCATION, went to universities and now have positions in the higher echelons of the society, DID nothing to SAVE THE GOOD EDUCATION SYSTEM in PUBLIC SCHOOLS, By sending their CHILDREN to PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
The standard in BOTH SCHOOLS HAVE DEGRADED..
The WORLD NEEDS YOUR STANDARD, which I relate to DEEPLY!!!
Thank you FOR BEING THE RIGHT VOICE 😊
Great interview.
Im an American so I may be misinterpreting some of the cultural subtext, but it felt to me like the interviewers were a british version of our evangelical Christians, who have the most passive aggressive elitism imaginable, and whose moral superiority is the side B of a record whose side A is puritanical woke liberalism. Could be wrong but that was my impression. Im always amazed to see that those two forces- woke liberalism and right wing evangelism- which i identify as pathologically American, have even more insufferable iterations in the UK. Katherine, on the other hand, is beyond awesome.
I’m American and I had no problem with them. The only comparison I’d make between the hosts and woke liberals is that they clearly care about their beliefs. I think they and Katherine were wonderful.
It's ok, you're right. You're always right. Well done, you.
The host is a dishonest religious apologist. I’ve seen him debate people, and he uses absolute garbage arguments. The people are ridiculous.
I believe there is a small number of evangelicals that are delving into the Woke stuff. I think most understand it to be marxist doctrine, or are totally ignorant of it, and, as I said, a small faction are falling for it. (EDITed to add I’m talking about the U.S.)
We need more dedicated people like you .Thank you for all your help you are doing.
My dad was strict ex military Coptic Egyptian man I hated it and him even now I was standing waiting for green at 46 thinking why am i waiting every time?. I had moment and realised that it was because of him. I am disciplined in every area of my life. He died 2 years ago and just at that moment I wanted to cry. My mum is English and she was more laid back but she only had to look at me with those big piercing blue eyes if she was annoyed and I was scared.
In he late nineties I returned to my 1950ties senior school i ( Plumtree) in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe to teach- it had been white it is now "universal" and white and coloured kids are just the same ( some briliant some not so!). Some naughty some nice !
I've known this since teaching in Junior school in inner London in the early '70s.
I reared our 3 children like this..love and discipline.
The female interviewer seems antagonistic towards the teacher lady.
Why?
Blond interviewer could be the problem.
Extremally infesting how little the world of TH-cam haven't watched this podcast. They scheme but never learn. So very happy to follow your work Katharine. Always know the sane people love what you have proved works day after day. Also smile at reflection every morning you brush your hair. God bless.
About identity. I don't understand today's kids really. Their identities are sexage and colourage.
If someone of my generation was asked about their identity, the answer used to be "artist", "writer", "metalhead", "raver", "dancer", "hacker"...
It's like there's a growth that's been stunted, like they're stuck at the age of 3 wondering am I a boy? Am I a girl? I must be a cat!
This is because it’s what society (Hollywood, social media, schools) are foisting on them! The Marxist running government schools (and other schools) are putting this front and center on the kids.
Great discussion. Thanks for your insights!
Are you going to wallow in despair [and bitterness] or are you going to work really hard....
Love that woman……!……..thank you,great stuff.
and shouting at French people...... lol!
Another person espousing Christian principles while denying God.
Fighting over who God only further divides people. A lot of us grew up in Christian households, and know it’s culty, and have church trauma. You’re not going to get more new Christian’s in your cult by force. Take a new approach to make your religion more approachable. At least this woman is doing something beneficial what are you doing judge Judy ?
It’s rather ironic. But not uncommon.
@@ariannagonzalez2618
Sorry if you went through that but your take is irrelevant. Historically these conservative ideas do come from the Bible and Christianity which is all the original comment was saying. In terms of judgement, practice when you preach. You’ve assumed a lot about the commenter over one sentence.
@@ab-gail Thank you so much @ab-gail! You said it much better than I could have. A nerve must have been hit for such a retort to come forth from arianna.
Changing the standard rather preparing to reach the required standard!!
Thank you Justine 🙌🙌🙌
🎉
God is irresponsible with his gifts, casually tossing so much gold before swine and insisting that we are not swine.The devil tempts that he may ruin; God tests that he may crown
Grace is the answer.
@51:15 Bruh...have you listened to yourself...?
Poor white kids are richer than poor black kids? The questioner compared black inner city kid v white kid from the home counties!!! 😂😂😂
Almost made me stop listening. We don't need baited and leading questions. Katharine handled it very well.
37:00 Lol! Seriously...
They like the strictness?😮😮😮😮😮
Children need discipline. The role of an adult is to teach, not to ask kids "what gender are you today?" (being somewhat facetious of course). Children feel safer with structure/discipline. 💚
@@rosemaryalles6043 100%
Children need boundaries to learn respect.
I would rather have had more in my schools.
Most kids hate having their classes disrupted by the few, even if they don’t feel they can say it.
~ Birbalsingh schooling is fine for normal children who want to learn academia. This type of schooling for the child who is an artist or sensitive in nature warps their outcome and delays their genius. We don't all fit in an egg carton. Unlearning or unschooling is best for the child that is their own.
For many years I thought I would unschool my children. Then one day a woman posted in a facebook homeschool group. She was unschooled and she said anyone could ask her anything. In some of her responses one thing she said stuck out to me "You don't know what you don't know".
We are rarely atune to our own knowledge gaps. How can we expect our kids be atune to theirs? Unschooling falls into gentle parenting for me. In theory it is perfect, a truely beatuiful ideal, but in reality it doesn't work well. At least not very often. In many cases it turns into passive parenting or passive schooling. It is sooooo difficult to do effectively, because you have to be on and intune with your kids almost always. If you have more than one kid that is near impossible.
Radical unschoolers give their kids free range on technology in the name of learning, which of course there is some of that going on but they are also exposed to places and ideas us parents would never allow in our home. They follow people on tick toc that we would never allow them to have as friends in real life. It is a complex subject, but I think what Ms. Birbalsingh is trying to say adults should always lead our youth. We have life experience and hopefully the maturaty to know what is best. A child has not gained that yet, so to trust them to make informed decisions about their own education is not wise.
She keeps calling herself a black woman. I never noticed her blackness until she pointed it out, and really I still don't see it. Anyway, I like her ideas for the most part.
I believe she’s said both her parents are black, her father being Caribbean of another type of Islander.
@@ab-gailShe’s part Indian (subcontinent) as well, I believe.