The Old Course, St Andrews - What I REALLY thought! w/ Peter Finch (Home of Golf)
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I hope you enjoyed my honest review of my experience playing at St. Andrews, The Old Course (The Home of Golf) with Peter Finch and this video helps you decide whether you too want to make the pilgrimage to golf's most royal & ancient ground!
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It’s more about the history than the course. To walk in the footsteps of all the greats who have ever played the game. Shot a 79 first time I played here. ( I play off 13). A caddie is essential and well worth the money. Tip generously.
You leave with memories to last a lifetime. I’ve played the old course 3 times now. Still smitten ❤️.
what is a good rule of thumb for tipping a caddie? I'm planning a trip to Scotland next summer, and this is definitely a stop for me, and being a 22 handicap, I'll definitely be getting my moneys worth with a caddie lol.
@@markb3079 i took the number of my caddie and used in for each of the three rounds.
My caddie was one of the longest still serving. I think I have him £250 but that is way above the recommended. Look at the website for advice.
Here>>>
www.standrews.com/play/caddies-hire-clubs/caddies
He was great company, knew the course well and we had lunch together on the last day, on me. So many cool stories. For me St Andrew’s is all about the history. He just added to my memory of the place.
Hope you have a very memorable time there. 👍
@@myopenmind527 Me and my wife, along with my best friend and his wife are planning on the trip. My friend and I told them flat out, if we go here, there's NO WAY we're missing a round there! I am all about the history of things. When I had a chance to travel to Prague, Czech Rep, or a Bali, I chose Prague because of the old world history.
I have no problems with walking the course, but my friend may be able to get a buggy for his back. He is looking into his paperwork... But I wasn't sure if I wanted to go caddie or not, but I truly feel that will be the best course of action, to get the FULL effect!
Thank you for you information! I will definitely look into that more! Cheers!!
I've never played the course but have walked it and definitely want to play it one day. I totally agree with Seb on the history of St Andrews. The town is amazing and a place I will never get sick of visiting. Great history and drinking places.
Brave summary, I've heard that from others too, so not alone. Still on my bucket list tho :)
Another great video your content is clear and professional. For those unable to play on great courses your videos make us feel like we were there Love the game and the new club’s
Thank you for watching!
I have been lucky enough to play all the top 100 by Golf World in GB&I. Birkdale and Portrush are great but I would play the Old first every day. You have multiple choices on every tee and even more on your approach. Between that and the weather, it never gets old. 18 on paper is a pedestrian hole, but I have driven the green, putted from 60 yards, pitched with a wedge, chipped from 130 with a 6-iron and hit a full 3-wood. And all that coming into one of the most charming towns in the world. Finish 18 late on a summer night and buildings are spectacular.
Very interesting analysis Robert. How many times have you played the old now?
@@SebOnGolf I was a member of the New club so we played all our medals there. I would say I have played it well over 100 times with my annual ticket, best was when I was 71. In the annual Bing Crosby tournament (220 golfers) on a rainy and very windy day, I managed a 77 (SS 73) to come 4th gross and win the super senior by a margin. You didn't ask but I put Loch Lomond best parkland, Sunningdale best heather and the Old best links,
@@robertlogan6379 Sounds a very easy course to play.
It’s on my bucket list just for the experience of playing the home of golf ⛳️
No better reason!
I'm Scottish and have only played it on Tiger Woods 08 for the Playstation, and I still appreciate what these guys are talking about.
Totally agree with that assesment, the course was good and in great condition, but the Aura around the place is incredible and makes the whole day ! The new course is worth playing aswell.
Hi great video.
I was lucky to play it about 6 years ago with my son and his best mate who was a member. As we were both off 8 we were allowed to play of the white pots. We both shot 78 nett 70. As a course its not spectacular but its the whole prestigious thing. My son was so in awe of it on the first tee he hyperventilated..
Haha I was the same!
1st on the list for me, the setting, history has it all!
On my bucket list but would probably put 5th overall. I prefer pebble beach, harbour town, wentworth and somewhere hot like the Maldives. Augusta would be here but it’s not open to public play
Solid list that Jack!
I've played it 6 times now and it grows on you every time, to the stage where I now love it as a course. I understand why some people would be underwhelmed after the first time but it is so subtle that it plays differently every day. If you are single figures ask to play off the whites as the day-to-day visitor tees can be quite far up. My top three courses are Cruden Bay, St Andrews Old Course, Carnoustie (my home course).
Thanks Monk, have heard this also. Hopefully will get back up there for another go soon
Very fair and honest assessment. I’ve played it a couple times and as far as courses go it’s got some forgettable holes.....but it’s the home of golf and you cannot forget that! 🏌️♂️
Well said!
Absolutely amazing
Played the Old Course for the 1st time 2 years ago (aged 46) , was shaking on 1st tee. As a 5 handicap have played many big matches and important courses but its still a special on that 1st tee. Shot a 70 nett 65 and have the scorecard framed on a wall in the house. Holed a putt from 10ft for par on the 17th and just thought about Seve Ballesteros having stood there. Its maybe not a spectacular golf course but its prestige makes it a must play. Never ever forget that day!!!
Play the Old 100 times and you will have 100 different experiences, many weather related. And The New is terrific and the Himalayas... pure entertainment! But rightly there are many much more dramatic links courses - nice to hear Royal Aberdeen mentioned, also go to Dornoch, Carnoustie, Turnberry and then over the water to my two favourites Royal County Down and The Island (nr Dublin). For "average golfers" there are a lot of very enjoyble golf courses in Scotland.... as well as great scenery and hospitality. You will be made most welcome.
Probably number 2 on UK bucket list! - Great Video 👍
Thanks Chris. What is number 1?
Played once best day ever, definitely going back to play again
Amazing experience from start to finish!
Number 1 for me so much history attached one day I my life I will get there!!
If you believe, it will happen!
Old course is defo on the bucket list
Great vid pal, what a day!!
Sounds like we have to go back!
Love how you play it and all of a sudden you see someone walking their dog across the 18th!
I saw Ally playing with Golfholics very cool guy and good golfer!! Nice golf vlog Seb!!
Thanks Zax, appreciate the support
Yeah, get that it's 1, 17 & 18 that stick in the memory. The rest of it is fairly easy, standard Scottish links. What you have to do when playing it is take a wee moment to yourself on a couple of holes, especially when you turn back to town, and take in that skyline. Remember where you are, the drama you watched unfold here any number of times on the tv. Its spine-tingling.
Look he summed it up exactly how I did.If you could play the 1st,17th,and 18th,you have done it.Please go to St.Andrews and play the other courses .The atmosphere comes for free,
I think its pretty much acknowledged that you have to play it a few times and in different conditions to get the best of it
St Andrews is No.2 on my golf bucket list
What’s number 1?
@@SebOnGolf got to be Augusta for me
Seb great video St Andrews is on my bucklist but hearing a few comments like you mentioned it's down the list a bit, been from Ireland and never played links course & after seen No Laying Up Tour Sauce from Ireland ( watch it if you get a chance very good) the courses they played on like Lahinch,Tralee,Carne, Ballybunion are without doubt higher on my list & about St.Andrews going to leave it and visit it for the first time in for the 150th Open.
That’s a great time to see it Ciaran. Also echo Ireland, and especially Northern Ireland as the ultimate destination for links golf IMO
@@SebOnGolf yeah went to The Open and Portrush is one of them high up on list, and great review with yourself and Peter
My bucket list would probably be the old course like you then has to be August national and finally royal birkdale of course
Thanks for watching and sharing Oliver
Do I win the Adidas clothing? 😂
As I’m playing all 14 open courses it’s got to be number one .. Turnberry and Carnoustie next summer but St Andrews is going to be extra special
Wow that is going to be some trip!
@@SebOnGolf I've done 9 of the 14 , looks like St Andrews will be the last and I can't wait to play the old course but really want to sample the history of the town and museum. I'll let you know when I finally complete the 14 ..
Great video it's was the top of my list but I've been told it's a real pain to get on it was my dream to play the old course but have been put off wanting to try to and get on
Stick with it; loads of other great golf up there also 👍🏻
5:25 I played the old course today and followed your advice as I didn’t have a caddie. Unfortunately it was a slice into the scaffolding 🤦🏼
I just won the Ballot for this Saturday, im absolutely buzzing...!
Nice! Have fun Brendan
I agree with you Seb. It’s not the best course you’ll ever play but because of its history it’s a special place to play. It was on my bucket list to play and played it 10 years ago, really glad I did. We played the New Course, Old Course & Jubilee Course and I preferred the Jubilee out of the 3. Good 3 days up there and the town is as special as the courses. Go play it peeps, you won’t be disappointed!!!! 👍
What a three days that sounds like!
Always wanted to play here but it’s number 2 behind Augusta which is just the number 1! ⛳️
That is the ultimate bucket list destination!!!
Top 5 for sure! Augusta, leopard creek, the emirates club and pebble beach make up the rest. Great video as always Seb!
Thanks JGC. Decent list that
While I was stationed in Germany with the U.S. Air Force back in the 80's, a group of us made the trip to Scotland specifically to play The Old Course and what these guys said is true. The history of the course, the surrounding town and just the atmosphere of Scotland is absolutely fabulous but as for the course, it's quite normal for a links course in Europe. Don't misunderstand me, the trip was fantastic and I'll never forget it but the golf was ridiculous. The wind, the hilliness of the fairways and just the difficulty of the course in general was crazy hard. We knew that before we decided to go but we wanted to "experience" the entire atmosphere. It was AWESOME.
Thanks for sharing that Gary and for watching the video. Such an amazing place that can’t be described and so much more than just the golf course for sure 👌🏻
Best round to this date is still at the New Course at St Andrew's so Old Course defo has to be number 1! You just cant beat links golf ⛳
Links golf is my favourite for sure!
It’s second on my bucket list behind algusta
James you will never get on at augusta..unlike pebble beach and spanish bay on th west coast of america
My number one golf course to play at is Agusta and the old course would be 2nd
It has to be done. Been up there 4 times and still not played☹️ Twice was closed (r&a comp + Dunhill prep) despite having phoned on one of those 😡 twice was unsuccessful in ballot🙄 But will get there eventually 🤞🏻Closest I’ve got is North Berwick where the finish up the 18th is very similar 🤔
That is very unlucky Tony! I hope the golf gods shine on you next time!
What you said about the course is pretty much what my friends that have played it tell me. If you have an imagination and can "feel" the history, then it's amazing. If you are not that kind of person then you will be underwhelmed. That's fine though, a very good mate of mine would think "feeling" the history was a bunch of hippy nonsence. But others find it amazing.
You really have to see it yourself to understand how magical that first tee is
notformebeaky that’s not the point you just don’t get it it’s because it’s the oldest golf course it’s a link to the original history of the game the first baseball fields and football fields are no longer there but in gold the pros still play the oldest golf course as part of golf’s oldest championship
Gotta day it’s second on the bucket list Augusta would be #1 ( which I’ll never play ) followed by St Andrews and then Pebble Beach ( which I hope to play one day )
I think we share some of our list Peter
I played it - off 9 - was on the 12th for second, putting - 4 over par - THEN four-putted it - then 7, 8, 7, 8, 7, - and finally a four on the 18th, holing second putt in front of a crowd and trying to look very casual, as if that par was just expected. ,
Finally someone calling out the course for what it is....ordinary. No surprise poncey Pete dodged the question.
He would, afraid of upsetting someone who he thinks is important.
As a Fifer, plenty of other neighbouring courses round the Neuk which are hugely enjoyable......then there is East Lothian
Hoping to get back up one day to play some others
I’ll play here one day. Just got to get the handicap into the teens first. Getting there! Great vid as always Seb 👏🏻
Thanks mate, appreciate the support!
when he teed-off over the hotel, i was looking for the red arrow that usually follows the pros shots!
They were there were they not?
Absolutely nailed it mate! same to an extent with the Brabazon. the iconic holes are iconic but, the rest are forgettable. i felt the same when i went up there. fell in love with the history and the town and the "old course" but, if that course is in skegness (no disrespect intended) you would be disappointed to have played £50
Thanks for watching Adam, much appreciated
I can kinda relate to the statement about the brabazon, very nice course but without the history it would just be a nice standard course
I agree with your comments Seb.
The Old Course is definitely on the bucket list 💯 I’ve also heard mixed reviews from friends but I’d prefer to decide for myself.
Watching vlogs on TH-cam, it doesn’t look like it competes with the likes of Trump Turnberry which I can honestly say was the best course I’ve played.
I’ve got to play it just for the whole experience and to say I’ve played at the home of golf 👍🏻
I agree with you Luke. Turnberry meant to be fantastic also I hear
Seb On Golf It was a fantastic experience and definitely has to be on everyone’s bucket list. We’re going back to Scotland in the summer for another golf break so we’ll see if the Old Course gets booked
Got to play Andrews one day would be my dream.
Id have it in my top 5 but would need a nice day because not a great wind player and hate cold hands on the course!
That’s like saying a cheese burger is in my top five foods but I want it without the bun 🤣
@@tonymoss2484 Or the cheese.
Go play the castle course while your there it's fantastic 👍👍
Hopefully will next time
Yeah castle course has some really stunning holes !!
Has to be No 2 on mine behind Augusta
“It’s a bit links-y”......hahaha! He describes a golf course perfectly.....2/3 memorable holes, others forgettable.
The students are the lucky ones....they can play throughout the seasons and years for a decent free fee .
Amazing deal!
Arrived at 4am got on at 7am. Well worth the effort. Only advise is to miss the bunkers. Shot 89 but with two 8’s on par 4s. What could have been....
Those bunkers are no joke!
Top 5 in my list!
Which number 1-5 is it?
3, after Augusta and Pebble Beach!
Never heard so much tosh -that course is different every day if not every hour
I respect your opinion Kevin. I hope to go back and try it another time to see if you are right
Seb On Golf -yea mate ,sorry if sounded a bit cheeky ,proud Scot , proud of His historical course
Spot on Kevin. I'm a local ticket holder and have played there for over 30 years and it can be different every time you play depending on wind/weather and what sort of bounce you get. Tiger won "The Open" there in 2000 with a score of 18 under that equates to -4.5 shots a round. He had 4 days of sunshine and no wind, back then he could murder any course in these conditions. To all the folk who think it's so easy I say " If you play the Old a day with a stiff cross wing and you don't have a local caddie holding your hand you won't score anywhere near par" IMHO of course.
@@tbc5232 I have never played it don’t think am good enough but watched many a round on it and been to the open there when John daly won
Home of golf has to be number 1⛳️
What would make up the rest of your top 3?
Although a bit ambitious and maybe unrealistic I’d probably say Augusta National and Pebble beach are the other two courses the make my “bucket list” of courses!
When Seb swings he looks like he's got a metal spike in his neck - has he got an injury or is it just waaaay too much tension?
Prolapsed disc in back sadly ☹️
@@SebOnGolf Sorry to hear that bud. I won't lie i kept thinking 'why doesn't someone tell him to stop that' lol. Fair play to you then, that's some nasty, painful shit.
Paul Brown it’s not too bad now that I have had a procedure on it, but left me with this dodgy looking swing 🤣
My old course bunker would be 2 for me
We played Carnoustie years ago when we were just hackers,no handicaps.crap clubs,
With a gale force wind.
I lost at least a dozen balls hit about 60 over and still won.......what a week
Seb - great to he true 💪💪💪👍👍👍
Be even 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
From insta. 1) Kapalua plantation 2)Augusta 3) Ganton Golf Club
Top man, thanks Harry. Great list!
I’ve been very fortunate to go to St. Andrews many times and play the old course in every season and condition. The first time can be a little underwhelming outside of the 1st 17th and 18th holes. But I assure you, the more you play it the more you fall in love with it. The wind is it’s biggest defense.
So I hear. Hoping I get another shot one day
Play the New Course and Eden and Jubilee and Kingsbarn and Lundin and . . .
Royal Aberdeen to go with that list. Pete raves about that one
What’s a birides is it better than a birdie? 😂😂
I won a golf day with Mercedes and stayed at the hotel there and had a meal in the R&A behind the 18th green but never played the old course we played Kingbarnes instead and what a course that is Superb!
Do you intentionally thin most of your shots?
🤣🤣🤣 definitely not!
Seb On Golf you could of said yes as it was windy but fair play for the honesty 😂 👍🏻
Number 2, behind Augusta
What would be three?
Seb On Golf Cypress Point 😉
Who picked the music, really!
St Andrews is a great place shrouded in mystery and history. However the golf course is pretty ordinary, apart from a few holes. Personally I feel Carnoustie is a much better challenge and Golf course.
Would love to play Carnoustie one day also 🤞🏻
Seb On Golf you should try and play it. It would make a good vid
Agree. Non-descript and honestly a bit boring. Nice shape and history can't make up for some things. Sawgrass and kapalua blow it away.
Both also on my list 🤞🏻
Apocryphal story: Sam Snead's first time at St. Andrews. Where's the golf course? he said.
Interesting
Been playing golf for about half a year an absolutely love it and play 3 to 5 times a week but to me as someone with no long term fond memories of great championships gone by I could see how this wouldn’t be an amazing golf course to visit. Only if you have a lifetime of memories could I see it being a must visit course.
Your second shot on the 1st hole just proves you don’t play off 4
Completely disagree. The course is brilliant, architecturally as good as a golf course can be. I think people think it's cool to say the course isn't that good. I understand some holes are quite similar, but the whole vibe of the place is amazing and the course couldm't be designed today
Just my honest option Pete, have only played it once though. Can’t disagree with the vibe though, I got chills!
First
vid won't play, tried 3 x's
Strange, what happens when you try?
No clue...
Just a big field with 18 holes stuck in it. Valderrama for me, a proper golf course designed by Trent Jones Sr
It’s the home of golf and I like the history but given the choice I’d play Trump Turnberry over it all day long.
If you want to play a better golf course you should of played the fairmont St. Andrews, 10 times better then the old course ⛳️🏌️♂️
Hoping to play that and a few others next time I head up there 🤞🏻
Typical sub-average golfer with a bit of money and all the top gear... status over ability
I would imagine most people play this course because of its history, not the standard of the course.. it’s really a non question.. many people will not have the opportunity to play it. I’m sure we could all find fault with every course if we wanted. Disappointing end to the video.
Sorry to hear you feel that way Jim, but thanks for tuning in 👊🏻
wtf is up with that back-swing?
What happens when a Prolapsed disc meets bad technique 🤣
I’m sure I’ll get slaughtered for this but forget The Home of Golf for a moment & this has to be the worst current Open course??
No way should they play it every 5 years. When I went there I was so disappointed with it..
Shocking for spectator viewing as well.. and for today’s top pros it’s way to easy..
Doesn’t compare in the slightest with Royal Birkdale🤔🤔 (for me)..
I haven’t played them all, and certainly think it’s the history that brings it back here so much. I don’t mind that though to be honest. Something cool about the guys wanting to win on the most historic course in the world!
Seb On Golf ... Yep I get that, but as we saw this year there are far better links courses out there to play..
There have been suggestions over the years that the Open should be permanently held there, now that would be a joke..
IT WONT PLAY
What won’t?
@@SebOnGolf the video wasn't playing, but now it is mate. all good!
Gayboys
Your takeaway is awful and you’ve got so much head movement it’s unreal. I mean for a 4 handicapper your swing is dreadful. Peters swing on the other hand is phenomenal. Just saying. 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks for the feedback Fernando, thank god for my short game I guess 🤣🤷🏼♂️
This is an awful comment 😂 everyone's swing is different sebs is perfect for him and got him to a level were alot of amateurs will not get to.. are you going to criticise Rahm, Stenson, Garcia, Jim furyk, dustin Johnson or bubba Watson for having bad take aways or alot of movement in their swing? 😂
Gitzer24 Chris but Rahm, Stenson, Garcia and Dustin swing it well though...it’s attractive to watch...all I’m saying is that Sebs isn’t. Can’t moan about a guy being honest. All entitled to our own opinion. He’s clearly a pretty handy golfer, no doubt about that, but just like Furyks swing...need to look away, it’s just not right lol.
@@fbf01 Im sure he lost a lot of sleep cause you dont like his takeaway, your a bellend mate, nothing nice to say, just dont comment...!
Pass . It's cold, windy, and many times very damp and foggy. The course is really nothing special except for it's historic significance which is HUGE and extremely enjoyable.
Unless you simply must experience the history and ambiance, pass on this. There are many, many fantastic golf courses that provide scratch handicapper and hacker alike a better overall golf experience (except historic). .
Stupid annoying music which made me quit the video.