Ck is really trying to tell Shane you don't have to milk the cow dry, give the people the experience without a lot of interruptions and they will pay you back 10fold, money is the journey not the end of it all.
This is exactly it. The message was that multiple ad-centric revenue streams is taking too much from the fan. Pick one, focus on the entertainment, get paid more by your craft and less by your ad partners.
@@shalakabooyaka1480 Probably because he knows he's good enough to not have to water down his content with cheesy ads that take away from the experience.
Louis is 100% right, Shane is making money hand over fist, i'm pretty sure I read his subscription numbers are 3-4x Flagrant which definitely has a higher overhead. Patreon's are good but if thats not going back to the content directly you are just stealing from fans, especially when everyone knows how much podcast sponsors pay.
I think Louis was half-joking, but also genuinely realized that this podcast was pure gold, that would be incoherent if half of it was behind a pay wall. In my opinion, this is one of the greatest things that ever happened in podcasting.
This was actually super interesting series I just spree trough. I'm from europe and yes I enjoy history but it was just the right balance of comedy and history. I did hope they would have gone a bit deeper in some newer ministerations tho but it was sooo good nonethless.
@@ghiidra__ cool? No not really 😅 It's highly corrupt and some places in it closer to a third world country than anything, still Today. Doing global messes constantly and being super good with propaganda. Like it's aight, but it's just like any big country, screwed up but just in it's own way. As everyone ofcourse I do like US entertainment even tho it's been on Massive scale going down in quality since 2010ish and is at it's rock bottom.. I'm interested in figures.. all around the globe and who cannot say that say, Roosevelt isn't a super interesting character. Louis C.K is super interesting just by himself and a very good storyteller. What more do you need out of this? History is interesting.. okay? Not my problem that most americans aren't At All interested about anything going outside of USA.
Louis keeping it real. He is half joking but he was doing Shane a HUGE favor by doing those history episodes to put on Shane's TH-cam. I guarantee you that Louis asked for nothing as long as they did it at his place. So now Shane basically tells him he is going to eff with Louis' fans by having them watch ads for 3 episodes and then have to pay $5 to Shane (and crew) to see the last one. They showed Louis some respect in the end. Left the episode on TH-cam for free and left this clip in to give Louis credit for being the reason it stayed free.
@@ItzWHZY 5 USD is almost a full day's wage on Brazil's minimum wage. And there are places poorer and cheaper on wages than Brazil that are fans of Louis and Gillis alike. Not everyone is lucky like you, if you can afford it great. Proud of you and more likely proud of your parents for having you in a rich country. You don't have to give a shit about the world around you, but why piss your pants publicly and let everyone know you have a limited worldview?
It reminds me of the Louie episode where Louis and David Lynch's character have the "be funny" conversation and Louis makes a fool of himself and then leaves while his agent, who is very Gardini-esque, is just sitting on the couch and Lynch goes "please leave this room". Funny shit.
Not really though. Tv has always had commercials and you pay, pretty new to be able to pay and not have ads. Even then there is so much product placement, etc. Marketers ruin everything. They def ruined the internet.
Yeah DAZN pisses me off now that everything is DAZN ppv. The price went way up, and many of the big boxing fights on there (Canelo, etc) which used to be part of the service are now an additional ppv fee
That fact people still pay for events when there is hundreds of websites that give you the same access as someone who spent an arm and a leg for the event
Until all the streaming services decide that's not the rule anymore. These cunts will keep pushing the envelope and see how much they can get away with before people start unsubbing. Personally already at the point where it's no more subbing, back to 🏴☠️🏴☠️, they are taking the piss.
@@timovangalen1589 How tf did all of you crybabies survive watching cable? 30 minute shows had 8 minutes of unskippable ads and I swear I never heard anyone cry about it this much until now.
I remember Norm Macdonald's podcast, where Seinfeld asked him how much he was making by doing it, and Norm answered "nothing." Ten years later and I still watch those episodes. Man, Norm was grate.
Louis has always been on the side of helping his fans. that's why he would always sell his tickets directly and have his stand ups on his website to prevent scams and price gouging
@@ynyfoodservice4456"Shane does the same thing." Hahah, Shane just released a special on a platform for millions of dollars. A platform he was calling dogshit, trash, woke media less than a year ago. You are dense as fuck 😂 I like shane as much as the next guy but naw, shane definitely doesn't do "the same thing"
@@rippspeck He was the first comic that I remember doing this. I believe he started that trend but I could be wrong. He also made a killing with that concept but it obviously would be scary for anyone’s first time.
Yea I mean plus fuck Louie who cares about him. He’s giving him shit for doing ads meanwhile trying to make a come back after jerking over to chicks over the phone lmao
I appreciate seeing the human moment Shane had digesting the interaction. Felt that. Shane was really put on the spot. Louie could have talked to him about it when they weren’t recording and given him advice less publicly but Louie ck is on point with what he said. He’s had a long career and has a good instinct when it comes to an audience. I’m sure it helped Shane In the end.
What’s the relevance of him holding out ? He’s now doing them now, are they less “gay “ all of a sudden ? I respect him less now for sure, stick to you’re guns. You don’t like the fact you not making money quit the podcast but be true to yourself
@@Gen7486 Imagine being such a low IQ loser that you waste money on patreons and try to pretend that when other people don't do it, it's only because they're broke. You're a silly little simpleton.
Louis CK is absolutely right. If you're going to put your content behind a paywall don't then make your paying audience have to sit through more adds. It's why I stopped paying for TH-cam premium - sure there's no more adds between videos but then the content creators will spend 5-10min anyways talking about "the sponsor" of the video. fuckin ads everywhere. Shane is already doing pretty well, why make his audience have to sit through more ads just so you can earn a few extra bucks. Louis is a wise guy.
Eh I'd rather have half the adds that I can skip rather than add a whole other half that I can't. It's why I still pay for premium as well as for music cause I don't care for Spotify
Louis maybe have done some questionable things in his time, but he has ALWAYS been like this. He offered a special where you go to the site and pay what you wanted. He also gave staff bonuses. Legend.
Didn't he ask a couple people if he could jerk off and then they stayed and watched him and later said they didn't consent? Or am I misremembering and ignorant
Louis used to be a broke and starving comedian living gig-to-gig in New York in the 90's, he knows what it's like to be an average American. Shane Gillis, funny guy, gods bless him, comes from an upper middle-class background. He's just doing what he assumes is normal; maximize your profit.
it's crazy that louis is so rich and famous that he can make shane do what he wants with his podcast just by yelling at him lol so glad he did it though
I feel this, I hate paying for a subscription to something and then be forced to listen to ads still. Like I can skip them.. but i'm already paying for it why should I have to
I don’t think he was being dismissive I think he was genuinely embarrassed about being (half jokingly) scolded by a legendary comedian and probably one of his idols.
@@spiralbones for real, louis is one of the highest paid comics of all time. shane has a successful patreon and sells tickets - im sure he's doing really well - but he isn't set for life like louis. wack as hell
@@Rams4life94 This exactly!... How anyone else interprets it any differently is puzzling to me. He was embarrassed, and was genuine when he meekly said to Louie "I wish you would stop this." He meant that shit with no humor intended.
@@mikeyo3377 idk bro after Shane said that he just powered through & started doing the ads anyway lol. he mightve thought reading the ads right then would be funny but it seemed like he was arguing when I watched. Could've been both, who knows
I feel so bad for Shane. On an LOS podcast a long time ago, he boasted that they don't do ads on their podcast. "Ads are gay!" (and admitted they where losing out on so much money because of that). Now he sits there being shamed (half jokingly), for having multiple adds and a patrion split episode.
I always did find it off-putting when the moment someone gets a modicum of success, their first thought is how to financially capitalize on it as soon as possible. I mean I get it, ya gotta eat, but how many meals do you need to eat? You've eaten 13 times today, and you're back at the buffet.
It straight up makes my blood boil that netflix and hulu's cheapest subscription has ads. It pisses me off that amazon primes library is so small that anything worth watching has them begging you for a couple extra dollars. These patterns of greed is what i imagine made Louis so livid in this clip. Thank you for standing up for us consumers who are simply being taken advantage of completely unawares. Much love to both of them.
Yeaa CK put this one on his tab haha. to be frank, all this fishing for donations and stuff got way to much. Back in the days ppl just enyoied creating content without expecting any financial surplus. I understand why it changed but its still sad
@@bloxxbergidk if I'd call it sad. It natural for you want to get paid for your time so you can continue funding your ability to put out more content, is it possible to be excessive to the point of being off putting? Yes. But I'd argue it's just as arrogant to expect someone to give you their time, energy and creativity for "the love of the game"
You know what’s great about being a consumer? You get to pick what you want. You got some moral hang up about ads? Find ads annoying? Hate “greed”? This is entertainment. It’s a not a need. You motherf*ckers act like it’s a constitutional right. Go read a book or book or something. I guarantee it’s a lot cheaper & likely more entertaining. Whatever you do, stop whining.
I was a freshman in college when Louis put his special out on his website I was genuinely shocked how cheap it was and I can still listen back to this day
He didn’t want to dick in his best buddy but it’s 100% to make sure Matt keeps his family fed and healthy. Shane’s not about that greed shit…he turned down the best job at the finest comedy institution in America for this. #SNL survivor
I hate to pile on Shane here, but all the podcasts I listen to they record the ads at another time and splice them in later and then it cuts in and out from the guest interview. You never do the ads with the guest sitting there. Shane will just live and learn. He seems like a good dude. 😂
I'm 100% with Louis, these guys are getting so greedy with their podcasts, I'm sure it's not just ad reads and patrion but also putting ads through TH-cam. I absolutely hate ad reads, they used to be rare but now just about everyone does them...
@@dwells3536 these videos also work as advertisement for who they are and what they do, which already makes them a lot of money. You may like seeing and hearing ads for crap you'll never purchase but I don't. Imagine being such a kiss ass that you took the time to defend people who couldn't care less about your existence. My balls, Your chin!
@@dwells3536 if the dude above ran a business with 4 dudes running a show he wouldnt think twice about doing livereads Shane is doing fine, but podcasts should be their own self-contained business unless it's purely promotional stuff for Shanes business which he shares with the other guys. That would be weird and awkward, so instead the podcast is it's own business. Matt and the other guys editing/filming it get paid from the outcome. Louis CK is right that mixing Patreon and live reads for one piece of content is annoying though. You should do paid shows and free shows. Not half way switching it up
Same with JRE, I buy the fucking Spotify membership to skip through all the jre ads and then I get hit with 4 fucking AG1 ads a better help ad and a fucking zip recruiter ad…
@@bl0p3z01 your able to fast forward through the ads and also I have some friends who use Spotify and we share playlist and also Spotify has great algorithms for similar artist and exclusive performances
I love louis for this. The Presidents was such a great series, and I never would have joined the Patreon in a million years. Grateful that Shane changed his mind.
Shane said why, he's looking out for his bros. Louie is just a 1 man thing for almost all of this stuff he does. So it's actually not greedy he just needs to spread the money around differently
When you nickel and dime everything people start to catch on and realize you want to be paid at every turn. Should you get paid? Yes you should. But should every clip have an ad and subscription attached to it? No.
The questions Louie is asking are the same I do all the time and Gillis answers confirm my suspicions that many content creators never really stop to think this stuff through.
Exactly. They'll love to talk about how tv is dead and cuting the middle man. But they're pretty much using the same model. Pay for anything extra, ads here ads there. When in the beginning doing pods was only to increase your audience
They’re money grubbers. They see $$$ and suddenly all self respect goes out the window and they force people that tune in to sit through bs ads or buy a patreon or both like we all need another fucking subscription
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 But I think they are not even that competent at money grubbing. In their desperation to pinch pennies, I think they often end up making choices that earn them less total money long term.
Louis CK likes to champion the working man by telling the working man he needs to share what he works for while he makes millions talking and having fun with his friends.
"We look like fools" man I felt that. I met Chrissy D blacked out I think and said I was his father for some reason, laughed awkwardly, without saying anything else walked away wishing a fucking plane crashed on my head. I've been in 5 alarm fires and didn't panic like that 😂 fucking up infront of someone you respect blows hard.
lol had a 'friend' with a xan problem years ago. 3 of us went to a concert & after it ended 2 of us managed to meet by far my favorite producer/artist ever in the venue's back alley. My fav artist & his gf were even down to smoke a blunt with us right there (note: xan friend was not with us outside yet). About halfway through the blunt my xan'd out friend finally started walking down the alley towards our smoke circle of amazing vibes & great conversation (was literally perfect btw). Mr. Xan was so fucked up that when he heard us call his name, you could see his 1 remaining brain cell light up as realized it was us - after which he then proceeded to start ranting about how ass the opener's set was & how she sucked the energy out of the room. Yeah, the opener was the long time girlfriend of my favorite artist... aka he (headliner) & her (opener) were literally standing in the smoke circle my 'friend' just walked up to & ranted to. She looked devastated & started to cry - we tried to say my 'friend' was just blacked out, but he just said "its fine man" as she was walking away sobbing & then he quickly followed after her. So yeah, I know the feeling man. And I respect that you take responsibility for your incident. Unfortunately, I never got the closure that i'd get if my 'friend' actually acknowledged his actions that night... he was so fucked up that he denied he even said that & he denied that they were standing there with us when he walked up. fuck man lol, I am heated just thinking about it.
@@von... Man I feel so bad for you and your situation and I also realize I shouldve worded mine differently, I wasn't on anything my stupid brain started short circuiting. It was the weirdest thing, like I had a million things to say at once and my brain reverted back to his first bit I seen I think and verbally diarrhea'd on him lol. Idve killed your friend 😅, that's a once and a lifetime opportunity and the fact he won't take responsibility for a screw up shows the type of person he is honestly.
Shane is loaded now, so is Matt with his brothers, and every podcast has useless editors (although I love the intros) that are getting moneys from the ad revenue. It is greedy to extend your conversation an hour and put it behind a paywall. Louis speaking facts on this one.
We probably have different definitions of loaded. And Shane in the clip seems to disagree with you as well because he specifically says for the other guys and Matt who has a family.
Everyone in the comments is so mad and serious about this. Everybody has to have a hot take on every issue in the whole world nowadays and it's just exhausting
It's not greedy because you can find more or less all of this podcast on the internet for free and unless someone is about to die from lack of podcast nutrients they can do what they want with their content.
@@Leon-zu1wp so just skip them it's like hitting a button 4-5 times I don't understand why we're acting like we've been backed into a corner and taken advantage of. It's an ad read on a free episode, that's that.
Neither are I’m the wrong, Louis is very correct on the pod being pure gold and it would be cool if every bit was on patreon, it has nothing to do him being a millionaire already (Louis) but Shane is also not in the wrong because he does wanna build up revenue to support all his buddies working for him and because he deserves it? Shane is the best thing to happen to the comedy scene in a minute and I love both these guys but no reason to hate on either
Ck is really trying to tell Shane you don't have to milk the cow dry, give the people the experience without a lot of interruptions and they will pay you back 10fold, money is the journey not the end of it all.
This is exactly it. The message was that multiple ad-centric revenue streams is taking too much from the fan.
Pick one, focus on the entertainment, get paid more by your craft and less by your ad partners.
"Just make less money chud"
No. 🗿
this just in, mega rich guy tells guy on his way up to make less money
@@shalakabooyaka1480 Probably because he knows he's good enough to not have to water down his content with cheesy ads that take away from the experience.
Didn't CK get cancelled for milking his cow dry?
Imagine your comedy hero dressing you down in front of your audience and shaming what you're doing using your full name.
Respect to both of them.
No, respect to only one of them
"Respect to both of them" that kind of contradicts your first sentence lol
that SHANE GILLIS came with a Dad voice lmao
Louis is 100% right, Shane is making money hand over fist, i'm pretty sure I read his subscription numbers are 3-4x Flagrant which definitely has a higher overhead. Patreon's are good but if thats not going back to the content directly you are just stealing from fans, especially when everyone knows how much podcast sponsors pay.
Now imagine your comedy hero dressing down in front of you and jerking off.
I think Louis was half-joking, but also genuinely realized that this podcast was pure gold, that would be incoherent if half of it was behind a pay wall. In my opinion, this is one of the greatest things that ever happened in podcasting.
This was actually super interesting series I just spree trough. I'm from europe and yes I enjoy history but it was just the right balance of comedy and history. I did hope they would have gone a bit deeper in some newer ministerations tho but it was sooo good nonethless.
Isn’t there still a patreon?
@@aleksisuuronen5969 awesome to think about a eurofriend enjoying america lore of this style. america must be soooo cool to you, no? no?
@@ghiidra__ cool? No not really 😅 It's highly corrupt and some places in it closer to a third world country than anything, still Today. Doing global messes constantly and being super good with propaganda. Like it's aight, but it's just like any big country, screwed up but just in it's own way. As everyone ofcourse I do like US entertainment even tho it's been on Massive scale going down in quality since 2010ish and is at it's rock bottom..
I'm interested in figures.. all around the globe and who cannot say that say, Roosevelt isn't a super interesting character. Louis C.K is super interesting just by himself and a very good storyteller. What more do you need out of this? History is interesting.. okay? Not my problem that most americans aren't At All interested about anything going outside of USA.
What podcast is this?
Louis keeping it real. He is half joking but he was doing Shane a HUGE favor by doing those history episodes to put on Shane's TH-cam. I guarantee you that Louis asked for nothing as long as they did it at his place. So now Shane basically tells him he is going to eff with Louis' fans by having them watch ads for 3 episodes and then have to pay $5 to Shane (and crew) to see the last one.
They showed Louis some respect in the end. Left the episode on TH-cam for free and left this clip in to give Louis credit for being the reason it stayed free.
the dawgs dont fuck around, nothing gets cut
Who cares. 5$ isn't much.
@@ItzWHZY It's not a lot, but the point isn't about the amount.
@@totallynottwo5727 sure bro. Ads... boo hoo.
@@ItzWHZY 5 USD is almost a full day's wage on Brazil's minimum wage. And there are places poorer and cheaper on wages than Brazil that are fans of Louis and Gillis alike. Not everyone is lucky like you, if you can afford it great. Proud of you and more likely proud of your parents for having you in a rich country. You don't have to give a shit about the world around you, but why piss your pants publicly and let everyone know you have a limited worldview?
I've never seen Shane genuinely upset before, kinda nice to see he's a normal dude.
For real
Lol bro shut him up with an AD READ when he was called GREEDY 🤣 You cannot MAKE this shit up, Shane is a legend and a fool
If you wanna see shane really mad watch any of his flagrant appearances
He gets pissed off on Flagrant
He was coming from a good place that the $$$ is for his less successful friends that work on the show. But Louie is also 100% correct.
It's the end for me where Sean goes "we look like fools"
Literally perfect comedic tone.
It reminds me of the Louie episode where Louis and David Lynch's character have the "be funny" conversation and Louis makes a fool of himself and then leaves while his agent, who is very Gardini-esque, is just sitting on the couch and Lynch goes "please leave this room". Funny shit.
holy shit i died
Shawn *
He is right, they do
His DAZN analogy is actually spot on lol is it subscription or is it full of ads.
Not really though. Tv has always had commercials and you pay, pretty new to be able to pay and not have ads. Even then there is so much product placement, etc. Marketers ruin everything. They def ruined the internet.
Yeah DAZN pisses me off now that everything is DAZN ppv. The price went way up, and many of the big boxing fights on there (Canelo, etc) which used to be part of the service are now an additional ppv fee
Amazon prime now too
That fact people still pay for events when there is hundreds of websites that give you the same access as someone who spent an arm and a leg for the event
literally how cable worked and everyone bought in for 30 years
I agree with Louis. Subscription means no ads, free means ads. Its the sacred rule of content.
Welcome to late-stage capitalist hell, where you pay extra money not to see ads on the service you subscribed to because it had no ads.
Until all the streaming services decide that's not the rule anymore. These cunts will keep pushing the envelope and see how much they can get away with before people start unsubbing.
Personally already at the point where it's no more subbing, back to 🏴☠️🏴☠️, they are taking the piss.
Can you tell that to the streaming and sports channels?
It used to be like that but not anymore. It just gives us more reasons to pirate stuff.
@@timovangalen1589 How tf did all of you crybabies survive watching cable? 30 minute shows had 8 minutes of unskippable ads and I swear I never heard anyone cry about it this much until now.
"I wish you would stop this"
This ain't West Point Shane. You can't call Mommy and daddy to come pick you up.
Yeah, he wasn't joking there....
@@UnivegaSuperSportwhat happened?
@@funkmaster322 who cares imagine paywalling your content in such a predatory way
@@hmp01 nah, paywalling good, meaningful content is understandable. but paywalling a podcast is nuts.
I remember Norm Macdonald's podcast, where Seinfeld asked him how much he was making by doing it, and Norm answered "nothing." Ten years later and I still watch those episodes.
Man, Norm was grate.
No more dry meat
@@WerlerEmil No more flair ups!
God rest the soul of Norm
The GOAT
Just like Parmesan
Louis has always been on the side of helping his fans. that's why he would always sell his tickets directly and have his stand ups on his website to prevent scams and price gouging
Shane does the same thing. Let the man make his Patreon and ad bread.
Hasn't he also released some stuff under "pay whatever you feel like"?
@@ynyfoodservice4456no, he doesn’t. Don’t just lie you weirdo.
@@ynyfoodservice4456"Shane does the same thing." Hahah, Shane just released a special on a platform for millions of dollars. A platform he was calling dogshit, trash, woke media less than a year ago. You are dense as fuck 😂
I like shane as much as the next guy but naw, shane definitely doesn't do "the same thing"
@@rippspeck He was the first comic that I remember doing this. I believe he started that trend but I could be wrong. He also made a killing with that concept but it obviously would be scary for anyone’s first time.
The way he goes to manscaped lol
Yea I mean plus fuck Louie who cares about him. He’s giving him shit for doing ads meanwhile trying to make a come back after jerking over to chicks over the phone lmao
Louie may be a millionaire now but a part of him still remembers what being broke is like.
His bit about having no money is a classic.
Wonder if Louie realizes that Shane's friends in the background producing everything and being his punching bags are starving off camera?
Yes Im sure he remembers what being broke was like 20 years ago cmon now
@butchgreene gardini is NOT starving lol.
@jdsummers5077 not now they aren't 😆
I appreciate seeing the human moment Shane had digesting the interaction. Felt that. Shane was really put on the spot.
Louie could have talked to him about it when they weren’t recording and given him advice less publicly but Louie ck is on point with what he said. He’s had a long career and has a good instinct when it comes to an audience. I’m sure it helped Shane In the end.
Nah man, they chose what to put in and what to take out
@@Humblemumble7I think they want Lois ck to come back on and that won’t happen if they edited this segment out.
louis did it publicly to make himself look better, no other reason to it
he was mad bc just before this louis cornered him in a hotel room & forced him to watch him jack off. he talks about it in another episode
@@niceprofile-k6i how so? Louis isnt the one peddling a patreon to suck his fanbase dry.
Lmao that last part sounded like Shane was gonna cry 😂😂😂😂😂
When kareem Abdul Muhammad trababid tumil a trumpet Jabar hates you, you think everyone hates you
@@deadmeatjbhave you recovered from that stroke?
@@deadmeatjbI tried reading your comment out loud and my furniture started floating
@@tiagorodrigues515 no
@@jaymkz3225 yes
After seeing Shane's ticket prices, I would not call him greedy.
I just bought some right now and was pretty shocked at how low they were. Very cool can’t wait.
Right, meanwhile C.K. is a legit multimillionaire, calling Gilly greedy.
@@spiralbonesright? And Louis also sells all of his comedy specials on his website
@cp-sh9nj It's a great show bro. I caught him back in April and loved it.
By me they were expensive af
Little did Louie know Shane didn’t do ads for far far longer than any other podcast under the pretense that “ads are gay”. Which is fair
Fracking is the best sponsor in the game
What’s the relevance of him holding out ? He’s now doing them now, are they less “gay “ all of a sudden ? I respect him less now for sure, stick to you’re guns. You don’t like the fact you not making money quit the podcast but be true to yourself
@@ryangrouette129 gardinis salary goes up exponentially each episode he produces, he's a superstar and we've gotta pay him the big bucks
@@ryangrouette129Matt gotta feed his family
Is it also fair then to say that he's a hypocrite and a sellout?
Louis breaking balls is the best
He also drains them in front of people
@@mugrootbeer454based dominance Chad
@@mugrootbeer454gotta keep full eye contact or it doesn’t count.
Ive never ever thought about joining anybodys
patreon
Zero possibility
Bank balance looking low huh? Patreons are like $3 a month..
@@Gen7486 Imagine being such a low IQ loser that you waste money on patreons and try to pretend that when other people don't do it, it's only because they're broke. You're a silly little simpleton.
@@Gen7486 subscriptions are for fools.
@@Gen7486 Out of principle; something you know nothing about.
Louis CK is absolutely right. If you're going to put your content behind a paywall don't then make your paying audience have to sit through more adds. It's why I stopped paying for TH-cam premium - sure there's no more adds between videos but then the content creators will spend 5-10min anyways talking about "the sponsor" of the video. fuckin ads everywhere. Shane is already doing pretty well, why make his audience have to sit through more ads just so you can earn a few extra bucks. Louis is a wise guy.
The difference is that 100 percent of the 'in video's ad revenue goes to the creator... I don't s
@@paulj6805 which is fine if your audience isn’t already paying for your content in the form of patreon or something similar.
Eh I'd rather have half the adds that I can skip rather than add a whole other half that I can't. It's why I still pay for premium as well as for music cause I don't care for Spotify
thats why i switched to youtube revanced. its free, it skips ads, and it skips ads in the actual video. it also skips intros etc, if u want.
I pay for premium for downloads. Some of us still live in 4G 😂
Louis maybe have done some questionable things in his time, but he has ALWAYS been like this. He offered a special where you go to the site and pay what you wanted. He also gave staff bonuses. Legend.
Didn't he ask a couple people if he could jerk off and then they stayed and watched him and later said they didn't consent? Or am I misremembering and ignorant
you're weird for calling a sexual assaulter a "legend"
Why is Shane dressed like an Afghan refugee who just arrived in Germany lmao
0:11 “that way what ?!?!?!!” 🤣🤣🤣
Louis used to be a broke and starving comedian living gig-to-gig in New York in the 90's, he knows what it's like to be an average American. Shane Gillis, funny guy, gods bless him, comes from an upper middle-class background. He's just doing what he assumes is normal; maximize your profit.
Shane is not upper middle class
it's crazy that louis is so rich and famous that he can make shane do what he wants with his podcast just by yelling at him lol so glad he did it though
I feel this, I hate paying for a subscription to something and then be forced to listen to ads still. Like I can skip them.. but i'm already paying for it why should I have to
The patreon section of their podcast has no ads. The free section does. Pay attention.
@@sakimano Cool story, I was talking about other podcasts in general. Pay attention.
@@stubert94 yet you commented on a video where that wasnt the case - how is that relevant
@@stubert94no you were talking about this podcast stop trying to deflect
What a beautiful, humbling experience. Shane and Louis handled it exactly the way they should have and learned from it.
you drooled when you wrote this
Louis CK calling it like it is - fkn Legend
Shane's real mistake was getting dismissive when he's literally sitting in Louis C.K.'s mansion (in his studio, next to his awards, no less)
I don’t think he was being dismissive I think he was genuinely embarrassed about being (half jokingly) scolded by a legendary comedian and probably one of his idols.
You just said it. A man in a mansion just called a comic who at the time had 2 roommates greedy.
@@spiralbones for real, louis is one of the highest paid comics of all time. shane has a successful patreon and sells tickets - im sure he's doing really well - but he isn't set for life like louis. wack as hell
@@Rams4life94 This exactly!... How anyone else interprets it any differently is puzzling to me. He was embarrassed, and was genuine when he meekly said to Louie "I wish you would stop this." He meant that shit with no humor intended.
@@mikeyo3377 idk bro after Shane said that he just powered through & started doing the ads anyway lol.
he mightve thought reading the ads right then would be funny but it seemed like he was arguing when I watched. Could've been both, who knows
00:41 is full dad mode
I feel so bad for Shane.
On an LOS podcast a long time ago, he boasted that they don't do ads on their podcast. "Ads are gay!" (and admitted they where losing out on so much money because of that).
Now he sits there being shamed (half jokingly), for having multiple adds and a patrion split episode.
Why do you feel bad for him? I remembered when they decided to start doing ads, no big deal. It's not super hypocritical or anything imo, whatever
You feel bad for him for being greedy? The fuck.
MSSP only makes 5 million dollars a year, I hope shane can recover from one guest wanting their episode to be free
And by one of his heroes! Louis should've spat in Shane's face. 🤣
They take the piss outta the ads too
Shane was so uncomfortable… I bet Louis Ck has never made anyone feel THAT uncomfortable before…. Oh no wait nevermind
Haha
"'Scuse me, while i whip this out." -Cleavon Little (Blazing Saddles)
Louie was not joking. He was 100% genuine and rightly so.
I always did find it off-putting when the moment someone gets a modicum of success, their first thought is how to financially capitalize on it as soon as possible. I mean I get it, ya gotta eat, but how many meals do you need to eat? You've eaten 13 times today, and you're back at the buffet.
It straight up makes my blood boil that netflix and hulu's cheapest subscription has ads. It pisses me off that amazon primes library is so small that anything worth watching has them begging you for a couple extra dollars. These patterns of greed is what i imagine made Louis so livid in this clip. Thank you for standing up for us consumers who are simply being taken advantage of completely unawares. Much love to both of them.
People saying Louis was joking are out of their minds. He was completely genuine.
Ended up being free. No harm done! Great eps. Seen him and the boys live a couple times after watching these episodes. 😊
Which episode was this? It is not episode 393 from last year right? because they are sitting in a different room
Its the presidents series I think @@animebeast6933
Yeaa CK put this one on his tab haha. to be frank, all this fishing for donations and stuff got way to much. Back in the days ppl just enyoied creating content without expecting any financial surplus. I understand why it changed but its still sad
@@bloxxbergidk if I'd call it sad. It natural for you want to get paid for your time so you can continue funding your ability to put out more content, is it possible to be excessive to the point of being off putting? Yes. But I'd argue it's just as arrogant to expect someone to give you their time, energy and creativity for "the love of the game"
@@stevenadamsapple There is a huge gap between greed and just the "love of the game"
Shane's team of Js were not happy that he relented.
The tightwads were none too pleased to see it on the regular feed
The J Team dislikes
The elfs in Harry Potter
Louis is also a J lol
Louis is right. So annoying paying for something only to find ads are still there… Greed is the worst
Tbf at this point (and sometimes still) the ads were hilariously phoned in, usually added more laughs than they took away.
You really cant think of nothing worst than greed... You live a really easy life
Cumtown stretched out the ads to be 50% of the show
@@louforcier2549 Many of your problems are probably rooted in someone else's greed.
You know what’s great about being a consumer? You get to pick what you want. You got some moral hang up about ads? Find ads annoying? Hate “greed”? This is entertainment. It’s a not a need. You motherf*ckers act like it’s a constitutional right. Go read a book or book or something. I guarantee it’s a lot cheaper & likely more entertaining. Whatever you do, stop whining.
"We look like fools"
"You have no idea". 😅😂😂😂😂😂
I was a freshman in college when Louis put his special out on his website I was genuinely shocked how cheap it was and I can still listen back to this day
I like videos like this that get reposted, repackaged, and get an even clickbaitier title every time it's barfed out again
Me too
I respect Louie so much
He's definitely doing it for Matt's benefit.
Matt is already a parasite off his wife
homies. Matt is the one that pushed for the podcast early on. he helped with Shane's success.
Big dawgs gotta eat.
He didn’t want to dick in his best buddy but it’s 100% to make sure Matt keeps his family fed and healthy.
Shane’s not about that greed shit…he turned down the best job at the finest comedy institution in America for this. #SNL survivor
Black babies gotta eat
I hate to pile on Shane here, but all the podcasts I listen to they record the ads at another time and splice them in later and then it cuts in and out from the guest interview. You never do the ads with the guest sitting there. Shane will just live and learn. He seems like a good dude. 😂
Well he's still doing it. I don't think he has any concept of editing.
Thank you Mr CK
The fact that they kept it in at the end is respectable
I'm 100% with Louis, these guys are getting so greedy with their podcasts, I'm sure it's not just ad reads and patrion but also putting ads through TH-cam. I absolutely hate ad reads, they used to be rare but now just about everyone does them...
Imagine feeling so entitled that you complain that free entertainment doesn’t have ads in it and they can’t get paid. Jfc what a shit take.
@@dwells3536 these videos also work as advertisement for who they are and what they do, which already makes them a lot of money. You may like seeing and hearing ads for crap you'll never purchase but I don't. Imagine being such a kiss ass that you took the time to defend people who couldn't care less about your existence. My balls, Your chin!
Image trying to get money with what you do, what a sacrilege 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your mom would’ve charged you for living if she had the chance u LEECH
@@dwells3536 if the dude above ran a business with 4 dudes running a show he wouldnt think twice about doing livereads
Shane is doing fine, but podcasts should be their own self-contained business unless it's purely promotional stuff for Shanes business which he shares with the other guys. That would be weird and awkward, so instead the podcast is it's own business. Matt and the other guys editing/filming it get paid from the outcome.
Louis CK is right that mixing Patreon and live reads for one piece of content is annoying though. You should do paid shows and free shows. Not half way switching it up
Its not about entitlement man youre just defensive about someone criticizing a celebrity you like stop the act @@dwells3536
Thanks uncle Lou
Same with JRE, I buy the fucking Spotify membership to skip through all the jre ads and then I get hit with 4 fucking AG1 ads a better help ad and a fucking zip recruiter ad…
Spotify is trash. That's why they give it away for free to white trash people who buy trash crap.
Why pay for it, then?
bs, have no premium spotify, i watch it without ads
@@bl0p3z01 your able to fast forward through the ads and also I have some friends who use Spotify and we share playlist and also Spotify has great algorithms for similar artist and exclusive performances
That's a genuine moment when they're pretty much whispering to each other about how bad that was
Never get between a man and his supper
louis is simply insecure in himself
So you're saying Shane needed to make his fans watch extra ads or he'll starve hilarious 😆
Supper or another rolex? Fuck that shit such a bad argument
he might waste away to ...normal.
Shane looks up to Louis. To have your idol call you out like that must be heart wrenching
wow, what a real moment. Awesome stuff
I love these two so much
Thank god for Louis CK. Teach the young bloods
I will say… the prank call ads do make it worth it and just make it not feel like sitting thru an ad
Love this
Props for the way both of them handled this
Louis ck man! That's the dude we cancelled for giving random people a free walk show, he's never gonna change man.
Wank
“Do you need the money?”
“Yes.” 😂
That is hilarious. Thank you Louie, you have sinned and paid, you have come back with wisdom to share with all.
I love Louis, one of the few comedians I’ve bought every single special off the website
I love louis for this. The Presidents was such a great series, and I never would have joined the Patreon in a million years. Grateful that Shane changed his mind.
Louie is right, im baffled every time I pay for a service and there's an AD between episodes?! You kidding me?
These two would make sick sketches together 😂
Shane said why, he's looking out for his bros. Louie is just a 1 man thing for almost all of this stuff he does. So it's actually not greedy he just needs to spread the money around differently
LMAO my headset got disconnected RIGHT around the time they were talking figures and my dumb ass thought it was censored for a good minute
When you nickel and dime everything people start to catch on and realize you want to be paid at every turn. Should you get paid? Yes you should. But should every clip have an ad and subscription attached to it? No.
That was an amazing series, and this was it best part.
The questions Louie is asking are the same I do all the time and Gillis answers confirm my suspicions that many content creators never really stop to think this stuff through.
Exactly. They'll love to talk about how tv is dead and cuting the middle man. But they're pretty much using the same model. Pay for anything extra, ads here ads there. When in the beginning doing pods was only to increase your audience
They’re money grubbers. They see $$$ and suddenly all self respect goes out the window and they force people that tune in to sit through bs ads or buy a patreon or both like we all need another fucking subscription
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 But I think they are not even that competent at money grubbing. In their desperation to pinch pennies, I think they often end up making choices that earn them less total money long term.
This series rules. I listen to it every Presidents’ Day.
I was laughing so hard listening to this. I drove like 6 or 7 hours and listened to the entire presidents series lol
Louie wasn't joking here, he has always hated this shit lol
I will never forget where I was on 9/11, because that is also where I was when I heard Shane on the Cheek Clappers podcast for the first time
How tf did you get the uncut lmao
“I will pay you $5000” great line indeed
Louis CK likes to champion the working man by telling the working man he needs to share what he works for while he makes millions talking and having fun with his friends.
Shane Gillis is the working man?
CK is a one of the stand up GOATS. 🐐
I respect Louis for saying it and Shane for saying "I wish you would stop this." 😂😂
"We look like fools" man I felt that.
I met Chrissy D blacked out I think and said I was his father for some reason, laughed awkwardly, without saying anything else walked away wishing a fucking plane crashed on my head.
I've been in 5 alarm fires and didn't panic like that 😂 fucking up infront of someone you respect blows hard.
lol had a 'friend' with a xan problem years ago. 3 of us went to a concert & after it ended 2 of us managed to meet by far my favorite producer/artist ever in the venue's back alley. My fav artist & his gf were even down to smoke a blunt with us right there (note: xan friend was not with us outside yet).
About halfway through the blunt my xan'd out friend finally started walking down the alley towards our smoke circle of amazing vibes & great conversation (was literally perfect btw). Mr. Xan was so fucked up that when he heard us call his name, you could see his 1 remaining brain cell light up as realized it was us - after which he then proceeded to start ranting about how ass the opener's set was & how she sucked the energy out of the room.
Yeah, the opener was the long time girlfriend of my favorite artist... aka he (headliner) & her (opener) were literally standing in the smoke circle my 'friend' just walked up to & ranted to. She looked devastated & started to cry - we tried to say my 'friend' was just blacked out, but he just said "its fine man" as she was walking away sobbing & then he quickly followed after her.
So yeah, I know the feeling man. And I respect that you take responsibility for your incident.
Unfortunately, I never got the closure that i'd get if my 'friend' actually acknowledged his actions that night... he was so fucked up that he denied he even said that & he denied that they were standing there with us when he walked up.
fuck man lol, I am heated just thinking about it.
@@von... Man I feel so bad for you and your situation and I also realize I shouldve worded mine differently, I wasn't on anything my stupid brain started short circuiting. It was the weirdest thing, like I had a million things to say at once and my brain reverted back to his first bit I seen I think and verbally diarrhea'd on him lol.
Idve killed your friend 😅, that's a once and a lifetime opportunity and the fact he won't take responsibility for a screw up shows the type of person he is honestly.
Haha that’s not too bad. If I would’ve seen that I’d definitely of laughed my ass off. At least you made an impression, right?
@@von...now that’s brutal. Dayyyum.
Somebody really likes to let people know that he’s a fireman
The ending was priceless. We've all been there dude 😂😎
Louis CK’s money came straight from advertising.
And the cheeks wide spread, don’t forget
Good for Louis! Shane and over creators deserve to be called out for their endless greed. I am glad he made Shane feel uncomfortable.
Shane is loaded now, so is Matt with his brothers, and every podcast has useless editors (although I love the intros) that are getting moneys from the ad revenue. It is greedy to extend your conversation an hour and put it behind a paywall. Louis speaking facts on this one.
Just say you’re fucking broke
Matt is not loaded
@@mattlee1071 uh ya he is.
We probably have different definitions of loaded. And Shane in the clip seems to disagree with you as well because he specifically says for the other guys and Matt who has a family.
@@mattlee1071 ya you're loaded right now, its another word for drunk if you think that.
Louis slaps the ham in public, Shane is trying to stack his paper.
Everyone in the comments is so mad and serious about this. Everybody has to have a hot take on every issue in the whole world nowadays and it's just exhausting
"He probably fucking hates us now"
Felt that fr
I’m sorry but the “we look like fools” had me laughing like a mfer
It's not greedy because you can find more or less all of this podcast on the internet for free and unless someone is about to die from lack of podcast nutrients they can do what they want with their content.
I always look for MSSP clips for my daily podcast nutrients
The AD reads are a bridge too far.
@@Leon-zu1wp so just skip them it's like hitting a button 4-5 times I don't understand why we're acting like we've been backed into a corner and taken advantage of.
It's an ad read on a free episode, that's that.
You said it’s not greedy then said nothing to that effect
dude it's not murder like they can just run away from the knife it's not like they're backed into a corner or anything
You need the money?”
“Yes”
Stud😂
Haaaaa! I'm sure Matt had his reasons but LCK's reaction was awesome and funny
Louie had a good point
The “brought to you by Manscaped” couldn’t have been better
Pretty easy to say with that window and view behind him.
I love how Louis just fuckin left during the shameless plugs
Usually disagree with ck but he's right I think everyone is frustrated with everyone double dipping
You can tell Shane was influenced by Louie by how he talks I love it
Neither are I’m the wrong, Louis is very correct on the pod being pure gold and it would be cool if every bit was on patreon, it has nothing to do him being a millionaire already (Louis) but Shane is also not in the wrong because he does wanna build up revenue to support all his buddies working for him and because he deserves it? Shane is the best thing to happen to the comedy scene in a minute and I love both these guys but no reason to hate on either
Nobody likes being sold shit sorry shane is dead fucking wrong
Louis CK is much funnier than Gillis will ever be.
Ironically now their ad reads are the highlights of the episodes to me. They kill me every time they’re so funny
Same. Them making fun of the products they're supposed to sell almost makes me want to see what these companies are all about.
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