J-O. Waldner vs. Timo Boll - Athens 2004 Olympic Games (Waldner's points)

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  • @ezghthrt7733
    @ezghthrt7733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    Waldner's appearance at the 2004 Athens Olympics is one of the classic moments in table tennis history and a prime example of his strengths. He was 38 years old, he had won everything that can be won, he was past his prime but the fire was still burning inside (he said afterwards that he was confident to win nothing but the gold medal and he also wanted to prove that the Chinese were not unbeatable). He almost did it. Before the games, Waldner was seen as a second-rate player though and nobody believed that he'd be able to put a dent into it. He hadn't beaten Ma Lin for six years and Boll for three years. Ma and Boll must've seen him as an ageing man - they used conservative tactics, hesitated at clutch moments and they all paid dearly for their mistakes as Waldner exerted pressure. In the semi-final, Waldner tried to lure Ryu into the same mistakes but Ryu was young and tough-minded. I wished that Waldner would've won at least a bronze medal. He is able to make the best of his skills and tactics whenever it counts. Young players should learn Waldner's spirit.

    • @maxmustermann3876
      @maxmustermann3876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If you look at Bolls successes in the last couple of years that's even more amazing.
      As Boll was 38 he made it to world's rank 1 again. And he clearly is much much fitter than Waldner, who was very slow.
      And he actually did beat the top chines players at this old age.

    • @albertosebastian9856
      @albertosebastian9856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Instablaster

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@maxmustermann3876 the paper no1.What about his career in his 20s?He won his sole bronze medal at the WTTC at the age of 30 beating Chen Qi who was a lefty doubles specialist.
      Just because he has 15 years of medical advancements to treat his never ending injuries and Germany's endless financial resources it doesn't mean he is more successful than Waldner.
      He could never win a Slam with his soft looping style.

    • @maxmustermann3876
      @maxmustermann3876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dickn.ormous1064
      "Never ending injuries"
      "Germany's endless financial resources"
      Wtf are you talking about?! You clearly don't know shit.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maxmustermann3876 Ever heard of the Bundesliga?It's the German League.The whole TT business in Europe centers around Germany.Foreign players have to play overseas to make ends meet which hurts the level of national leagues hence the mess of European TT and the German dominance.Germany couldn't even win the European Championship before 2007. Belarus and Denmark won it during Boll's reign...

  • @emcc1641
    @emcc1641 8 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    MA Lin at his prime; Boll close to his prime ( but froze in this match); Waldner giving a swansong display of genius against both. Younger players now watch and question what the fuss was about - surely Waldner doesn't seem that good? The answer is deception. Other top players often did not know what Waldner was doing, with spin speed or direction, until it was too late; thus their errors on even simple-looking shots (to the new generation of viewers) from the master. One of the rare few from any sport that made a game look effortlessly beautiful. Thanks for the memories.

    • @Ahldor
      @Ahldor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      +Elana McClements Precisely, this was top act deception. Almost every strike he made he went with a slightly different angle and spin than usual, and that really messes up his opponents game flow.
      But Waldner could also win the longer rallys, he most often did actually. So he was indeed a fully fledged table tennis player.

    • @thecatmeows1625
      @thecatmeows1625 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Elana McClements
      And the thing is Waldner did know what the other players did. His classic no-movement blocks were possible because he anticipated where the ball would go and got there first, and of course had the touch to return it perfectly.

    • @CTJM
      @CTJM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was 2004, not 2000. He lost to Ryu and Wang Liqin later on in this 2004 Olympics.

    • @elseberthelsen171
      @elseberthelsen171 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elana McClements öo

    • @ronwilson464
      @ronwilson464 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elankkk

  • @orangeman745
    @orangeman745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    9:28 The Swedish king. The other guy is Carl XVI Gustaf.

    • @Ossissindwestpolen
      @Ossissindwestpolen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Als his German Wife

    • @PingPongBurken
      @PingPongBurken 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know, I’m a swede

    • @KimJakab
      @KimJakab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Orange Man: Ha ha, well pointed out :)
      (Looks like the others didn't understand your joke?)

  • @99Age
    @99Age 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just admire them... both of them! They are TT Legends and they made this sport being an art ... All TT Legends are inspiring us and they are giving us joy and passion to play ...

  • @PrinceArt77
    @PrinceArt77 14 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    at 6:35 timo just couldn't hide his depression anymore...waldner just have this extremely tricky spins on his serves and returns....
    1. great server
    2. smart backhands
    3. superb ball placements
    4. fast reflexes (for his age)
    5. extreme accuracy with loops and drives
    6. great blocking and defense
    7. A true gentleman of the sport
    8. Simply the Best package
    9. All Time Best
    10....MY IDOL......hehe...peace yah all guys!

  • @AdamBobrow
    @AdamBobrow 12 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Their table tennis history is pretty rich... Stellan Bengtsson and of course Jorgen Persson to name a few. Together, Waldner and Persson were a HUGE factor in beating the Chinese as the top team in the world. As far as current players... well, they have a few strong players.. but not in the world top 50 and Persson... is their 2nd highest ranked player STILL!!! So the near future of Sweden... well... won't be quite as strong as it was in the 80's and 90's. 8>)

    • @andreaseriksson8803
      @andreaseriksson8803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't forget Appelgren. He's the reason J-O got to the top.

    • @AdamBobrow
      @AdamBobrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andreaseriksson8803 Yes. Appelgren as well. 8>)

    • @boastfultoast
      @boastfultoast ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the videos and content. Your energy and attitude has gotten me back into the game after a 10 yr break and is one of the better decisions I’ve made. Glad you are a part of the community. If you’re ever near Boise, Idaho I hope to play a game with you sometime

    • @l4mbo-games174
      @l4mbo-games174 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      hehe, this comment didnt age well ;) falck runner up wttc 2019 and truls 2021. doubles gold 2021. depends though what you mean with "near future" :D

    • @Zakarias89
      @Zakarias89 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweden is back!

  • @madrilenho
    @madrilenho 10 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    6:59, Waldner's evil smile

    • @granit88
      @granit88 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's like "atleast you tried" xD

    • @madrilenho
      @madrilenho 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Erik Hedbäck Absolutely!

    • @zim-chan
      @zim-chan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Nice try bro"

    • @screenosaurus
      @screenosaurus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He also shakes it off realising he shouldn't be seen on camera with that smile after the point LOL

  • @Pewpshmear
    @Pewpshmear 15 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    at first, i thought "wow, timo boll used to suck." but then i realized that every single point shown was waldner's . and then i realized that this was more of a tribute to waldner than a game highlights.

  • @rosamelfierro6093
    @rosamelfierro6093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    J.O. Waldner is the table tennis G.O.A.T.

    • @rosamelfierro6093
      @rosamelfierro6093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Timo Boll is great too.

    • @ashupashu5559
      @ashupashu5559 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ma long is waldner is good too

    • @joseluisfernandezruano4220
      @joseluisfernandezruano4220 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course. No one ever played like him.

    • @bida123
      @bida123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      just once world champion is not enough!

    • @ChristianBubeck-e3v
      @ChristianBubeck-e3v หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A couple of years ago Timo was asked, who his toughest opponent was in all those years.
      He said, it was J.O. Waldner and not one of the Chinese guys.

  • @andymcneil7085
    @andymcneil7085 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The man is a legend and one of my heroes.

  • @grigoriykarabaza649
    @grigoriykarabaza649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Это просто шедеврально, Вальднер ты легенда!

  • @AdamBobrow
    @AdamBobrow 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My pleasure! Happy to help! 8>D

  • @Centrinario
    @Centrinario 8 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Waldner - The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be

    • @nik7bkh965
      @nik7bkh965 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Golden Boy after boll ofcourse

    • @thecatmeows1625
      @thecatmeows1625 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Nik 420
      Haha.
      Nice joke.

    • @prod.championriceboi3696
      @prod.championriceboi3696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in your dreams, maybe.

    • @MrRazorblade999
      @MrRazorblade999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@prod.championriceboi3696 Att his prime Waldner would probably beat Ma Long.

    • @noahjackson4185
      @noahjackson4185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MrRazorblade999 now you're delusional. Waldner may be the Mozart but ma long is just pure dictation over the table. No one can beat ma long when he's in form

  • @robertod893
    @robertod893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 2003 I was a dealer in a casino. One night shift the Chinese men’s team were playing Baccarat. I remember asking them about Waldner’s chances in the upcoming
    Olympics and their reply: “too old”

  • @ジャイロスコープ-e5z
    @ジャイロスコープ-e5z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    100年に1人の天才というのは決して過大評価ではない。

    • @thesubhumancomedy
      @thesubhumancomedy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it wasn't beautiful, it wasn't worth as much. He was one of a kind.

  • @EnzitoTDM
    @EnzitoTDM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Este video me lo mostró mi primer profesor de tenis de mesa allá por el 2012 hoy 10 años después lo sigo mirando y disfrutando de la misma manera

  • @niklastorshagen6365
    @niklastorshagen6365 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree

  • @xssamaxila
    @xssamaxila 13 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    J-O. Waldner is Roger Federer in tennis!

    • @kuchikibyakuya7697
      @kuchikibyakuya7697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ma long can destroy him essily

    • @bohrora2293
      @bohrora2293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@kuchikibyakuya7697 Ma is just a well trained robot. All mechanics no substance. Glad I stopped playing before tt got destroyed.

    • @lepoldbuttersstotch
      @lepoldbuttersstotch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@bohrora2293 what does you stopping playing TT have to do with anything? Not like you were ever going to challenge your Sunday league's best, let alone China's best

    • @bohrora2293
      @bohrora2293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lepoldbuttersstotch The Chinese turned TT into something else. To use an analogy, no football fan ever looked at Futsal and was in awe. Good luck to them perfecting their human algos. China have many "best" and zero "greates"

    • @太麻里小狼狗
      @太麻里小狼狗 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trent Boult
      Fuck China and their China virus.
      China is a pig cage.

  • @spaceinvader384
    @spaceinvader384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Waldner's got the reach, effective block and very capable to counter serves to his favour. Timo is clearly off form while Waldner's exceptional in this match. But could see Timo improved a lot over the last 10 years, playing against top Chinese players.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Chinese don't play Boll like Waldner did so his experience is irrelevant.Go watch him play against Moregard,he has the exact same problems as he did with Waldner 20 years ago.
      His slow loops get punch blocked to wide angles and he can't keep on the serve-recieve.One would say it's his age but again he got kicked by On Sang Eun in his prime with the exact same tactics.The Chinese just aren't that good against lefties compared to their general level.

  • @dobadobado1994
    @dobadobado1994 12 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    JO doesn´t only smash, like the chinese guys, he also kid his opponents with small balls and chops. He´s definitly the best in table tennis history.

  • @brunoklintman3593
    @brunoklintman3593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Proud to be a Swede 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

  • @zubinbharucha6686
    @zubinbharucha6686 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only man which all chinese players always feared. When he is in the zone, the chinese knew no one could stop him! One of the all time greats!

  • @shabahatali7619
    @shabahatali7619 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    waldner was shear talent.his backhand was awesome.only person to threaten chinese

    • @n0mi89
      @n0mi89 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      *threaten and dominate

    • @realman444
      @realman444 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You did not hear the hungarian Klampar?

    • @andreialexandruparfeni7129
      @andreialexandruparfeni7129 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      realman
      Klampar was not a threat.
      Klampar-0 WTTC medals
      Waldner-6 WTTC medals
      In the modern era (since 1965), Hungarians only have 1 gold in men's singles tournaments, while Sweden has 4.
      Hungary-1 WTTC teams gold medal (1979) and 1 WTTC teams silver medal (1981)
      Sweden-5 WTTC teams gold medals (1973, 1989, 1991, 1993, 2000), 4 WTTC teams silver medals (1983, 1985, 1987, 1995), 4 WTTC teams bronze medals (1967, 1975, 1977, 2001).

    • @tomspice73
      @tomspice73 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      shabahat ali You are aware that Boll and Samsonov have been in the top 10 for 16 and 22 years, right? Boll is number 3 currently.

    • @nicklasandersson5606
      @nicklasandersson5606 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      How many wttc and olympic gold has Boll and Samsonov taken to stop the chinese?

  • @RedArrow2007
    @RedArrow2007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    J=O Waldner, one of the greatest table tennis players of all time!

    • @DrMcKay66
      @DrMcKay66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      THE greatest TT player of all times if i may say.

    • @ashaazimroz9775
      @ashaazimroz9775 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrMcKay66 Ma Long and Ma Lin are easily better than him. Waldner is awesome but China still dominates.

    • @DrMcKay66
      @DrMcKay66 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashaazimroz9775 Depends on how to see it. Compared to how many active players in each country JO was still better at that time but as player to player they were maby slightly better then him still.

  • @Centrinario
    @Centrinario 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad I got to shake hands and take a picture with Waldner when he was in his prime

    • @Vallavanat
      @Vallavanat 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Golden Boy lol you post the same thing everywhere

  • @zang1983
    @zang1983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    5:30 good luck returning that ball lol

    • @taoismk8321
      @taoismk8321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha heavy side spin on it 😂

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Stabil Timo Boll and smash doesn't mix.

    • @gilekopi7296
      @gilekopi7296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trick. Shot

  • @PrinceArt77
    @PrinceArt77 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ohh yeahh! Waldner is simply the Best...the best all-around TT player.....his backhands are the most accurate, consistent, and the trickiest i have ever seen...well, not as powerful as those of Kreanga's but definitely amongst the greatest.....his serves are spinny, quite hard to counter....and his loops....and ball placements.....define his GREATNESS......The Greatest Table Tennis of all Times......Waldner........peace yah all guys!

  • @washnery
    @washnery 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jan Ove Waldner simply the best!

  • @flagella1337
    @flagella1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    8:01, "Yesssssssssssss! Wait what, I deserve more credit."

  • @MEVIN_RULES
    @MEVIN_RULES 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    walder looks like jame hetfield of metallica

  • @masterspin7796
    @masterspin7796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Waldner was really showing some power with those backhand shots...

  • @rasheedelakhlaqsiz4753
    @rasheedelakhlaqsiz4753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Waldner had a lot of control and directed his shot and returns at will
    I think today's game is just a little faster, not sure if Waldner would have been so dominant at today's speeds.

    • @edwardshowden5511
      @edwardshowden5511 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats totally true. He had great control and good tactics. Timo style is easy to read.
      My favourite match from 04 was timo-schlager 4:3 🙉

    • @alessandrofini1394
      @alessandrofini1394 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think how many good players with 40mm ball would be able to play with 38 and if they were so good. I'm 56 I started with 38 I know what I'm saying. Waldner is the best players of all time

    • @YuzmeKosuFitness
      @YuzmeKosuFitness 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are comparing wrongly. Pele is not better than average premiere league attacking player. But everything was different in his time.
      And Waldnerplayed in his time. Because of him china changed their TT training system. if waldner were a young TT player today, he would easily on par with Ma long and fan zhenfong, would dominate all other chinese guys.

  • @qomarqomarudin7307
    @qomarqomarudin7307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    two outstanding players .. great respect to both of them though different generation separates them at their prime

  • @HandsomeCookiemaker
    @HandsomeCookiemaker 12 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    love how the play ABBA in the ending of the game LOL

    • @zodinlianiatyi3281
      @zodinlianiatyi3281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Woah!! 7years ago im from the future in 2019 lol please reply me if youre still alive lol..!!!!

    • @Jonixx95
      @Jonixx95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zodinlianiatyi3281 he's probably dead... XD
      I come from 2020 it's pandemic in all world please help me...
      Waldner is a beast, as a kid I won a lot of table tennis tournaments, I had potencial and love the game so much, there's some type of meditation state when you really into it

  • @madrilenho
    @madrilenho 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THANK YOU, MASTER WALDNER!

  • @jmlainez
    @jmlainez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, Waldner must have been frustrating to play with! Not being able to anticipate what's coming next. You can see Timo getting frustrated from not being able to hit back simple service returns.

  • @MisterLiBRiUMz
    @MisterLiBRiUMz 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Timo is an excellent player, however, Waldner recognized his weaknesses and played them to his advantage. Notice most the Waldner's points are on Timo's backhand!

    • @Stormy177
      @Stormy177 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Often close to his body on the backhand, too - Boll's weakness had definitely been identified, and Waldner exploited it to the fullest.

  • @YuzmeKosuFitness
    @YuzmeKosuFitness 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is great tutorial. How to play against an agressive topspin player when he is remarkably younger/faster.
    Non spiny loops, untraditional and disruptive service returns and blocks were Waldner's weapons against TB and also against other opponents.
    Normally, people learn certain techniques and tactics, usually just use them, occasionally add new surprising things. But Mozart Waldner always confused his opponents and audience.
    i sometimes watch this video again and again at 05X to improve.

  • @thejUmpyNehPets
    @thejUmpyNehPets 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep in mind that Waldner was the master of the 38mm ball, so with the less dense, bigger ball, there is really not much competition for the Maestro

  • @TyRafferty
    @TyRafferty 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @ultramuffin99 read this:
    Uploaded by Reno070 on Jul 30, 2009
    Best points of the master Waldner.
    Second set, 2:10 J-O. loses 10-5 vs. Boll, 3:17 master makes the end point of the set win it 13-11, demonstrating why is the best of all time.
    Category:
    Sports
    Tags:
    Waldner
    License:
    Standard TH-cam License

  • @KohchanNightcore
    @KohchanNightcore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    私の憧れの選手はワルドナーさん。彼のようなプレイが出来るよう、1週間に一回は必ず動画を見て研究しています。

  • @むらしぃ-s8j
    @むらしぃ-s8j 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    スウェーデン国王も観戦しにきてるやん

  • @kennykarlsson920
    @kennykarlsson920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a legend.

  • @wangpunkpunk4760
    @wangpunkpunk4760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    an artist in teble tennis, he let the people see the beauty of this sport.

  • @shirokisasaki3233
    @shirokisasaki3233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh I suddenly rememebered why I had a huge crush on Timo boll When I was a kid, he looked so FINE here

  • @forzatuner3916
    @forzatuner3916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waldner is the GOAT.

    • @itsm3th3b33
      @itsm3th3b33 ปีที่แล้ว

      For his time, yes.
      I wonder how he'd fare nowadays (at his prime) against a MaLong or Xu Xin at their prime.

  • @चेतन_महाराष्ट्र
    @चेतन_महाराष्ट्र 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both great players

  • @wowmogge
    @wowmogge 12 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    4:57 " Because i'm female"

  • @ollebengtsson5320
    @ollebengtsson5320 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is remarkable! I assumed he would retire after they changed the ball size at the age of 37 for Waldner. I completely new sport basically! Instead at the age of 40 he beats all the upcoming stars of the world to reach the Olympic final! That alone makes him the master of masters!

    • @norbertwiesner569
      @norbertwiesner569 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Surely, JO Waldner was a genius in table tennis. But in 2004 he didn't reach the Olympic Final, at the end "only" Number 4 without a medal.

  • @andymcneil7085
    @andymcneil7085 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So good at seeing the gaps as they opened.

  • @andrewmcneil2110
    @andrewmcneil2110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a fabulous player.

  • @mkychn
    @mkychn 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After The 3rd set. Timo Boll, seemed like he lost all hope..
    I have to admit though, Waldner is to me. THE BEST PLAYER of all time.

    • @Wraithlen
      @Wraithlen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In TT he's the best player of his generation (although as long as he played that is hard to describe). The really great TT players could play with any generation of pro's, and Waldner could do that easily.

  • @Laurents75
    @Laurents75 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    juste le meilleur joueur de tout les temps

  • @sanoj1969
    @sanoj1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend 🇸🇪

  • @julianmirasalazar7331
    @julianmirasalazar7331 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    waldener es él mejor jugador de la historia

  • @Youda00008
    @Youda00008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Why only Valdner points?? This so ruins the video.

    • @rosamelfierro6093
      @rosamelfierro6093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because J.O. Waldner is the G.O.A.T. Timo Boll is also great. There are some videos of Timo if you prefer to watch.

    • @LePingouin92
      @LePingouin92 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah like the other day I was watching Nadal best clay wins and guess what no track of Federer slams wins!! These people, the nerve

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boll scored like 5 winners and 3 unreturned serves in the whole match.He rarely goes for his shots, mostly tries to draw errors with his slow loops.Rather unremarkable style compared to Waldi.

  • @neilclark8087
    @neilclark8087 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    China dominate world TT since 20 years, but even the best chinese players dont have the magic, charisma and natural born talent than J.O.W, the poker face. I guess he was born with a TT bat. True legend

  • @СергейЦветков-ь6к
    @СергейЦветков-ь6к 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Король наст.тенниса!Супер!!!

  • @kebrl
    @kebrl 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    retired, he is 47 years old after all. he was 38 in this game.

    • @sinceremf1227
      @sinceremf1227 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waldner is 39 when he plays this game in 2004 ... He was born in 1965 , refer to an interview. While Liu Guo Liang was born in1976😊

  • @Poseidon99Jeus
    @Poseidon99Jeus 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For sure he's the mozart of table tennis

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Waldner made a bunch of great shots.

  • @konichiwa4339
    @konichiwa4339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    genius って言葉が1番似合う卓球選手

  • @haku_8989
    @haku_8989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    サラッと馬琳を倒してるの草

  • @БахаСАГЫНАЛИЕВ-ы6г
    @БахаСАГЫНАЛИЕВ-ы6г 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    J.O.Waldner для меня самый крутой,леганда настольного тенниса👍

  • @AntoniaZhang
    @AntoniaZhang 12 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    waldner's coach looks younger than him...

  • @TheOlzee
    @TheOlzee หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was just so difficult to know what Waldner was going to do with the ball until it’s too late lol

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Timo boll was then too young to that experienced monster blocker player

    • @sten2246
      @sten2246 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Timo Boll World Number 1 2003 Sorry you had to play the goat

  • @TheMotogavlas84
    @TheMotogavlas84 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game must have been a big lesson for boll, his backhand now is fantastic

  • @geitekop507
    @geitekop507 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is it just me, or does Waldner look like Arnold Schwarzenegger?

  • @frother
    @frother 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    5:08 lol girl in the crowd flashing the camera

    • @ncky2431
      @ncky2431 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      frother where?

    • @frother
      @frother 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roughly in the middle, above the guy in the white hat.

    • @erikskogsberg7958
      @erikskogsberg7958 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +frother Sorry to dissapoint but thats clearly a man! :D

  • @MrRothhaendle
    @MrRothhaendle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:00 Sweden is a wonderful country

  • @dederembosulaeman1981
    @dederembosulaeman1981 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awal awal maen rubik emang terlihat sulit tp dengan sering main pasti tau caranya Rubik 3x3 dan 5x5 itu hampir sama persis cara penyelesaiannya ...yg penting hafal Rumusnya aja putaran R,R' L,L' F,U B sebenernya gak rumit kalo kita hafal rumusnya begitu juga 4x4, dan 6x6 sama persis rumusnya

  • @pingpong7741
    @pingpong7741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:30 |
    5:59 Coach makes fun!!!!!!!! | 8:06 is the King of SWE
    8:01 |

  • @KA-eu9sy
    @KA-eu9sy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Waldner was 39.
    Boll was 23

    • @MrGunnar69
      @MrGunnar69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And this year, 19 years later, Timo played a new generation of Swedish table tennis players in the final of the European Championship.
      Both are legends.

  • @luisalbertogarciaprieto6518
    @luisalbertogarciaprieto6518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lo mejor de waldner, y por eso tiene ventaja sobre los demás, es el servicio.

    • @mariomoraga3891
      @mariomoraga3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤡

    • @mariomoraga3891
      @mariomoraga3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Waldner es superior en casi todo excepto en potencia física y el puto spin que arruinó este hermoso juego y es casi pura tecnología de paleta

    • @luisalbertogarciaprieto6518
      @luisalbertogarciaprieto6518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariomoraga3891 waldner dosifica, no se desgasta, por eso ha podido estar en 3 décadas, siempre arriba, eso no lo puedo hacer nadie, solo Boll y Sansonov

    • @mariomoraga3891
      @mariomoraga3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@luisalbertogarciaprieto6518 jajaja. Justo mis 3 favoritos. Wena bro

  • @TableTennisTT
    @TableTennisTT 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great quality, Yeah JO Sweden for life :)

  • @soccerfish8
    @soccerfish8 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nevermind didn't read the description... Just figured that since the title described a match, it would show both sides rather than all the points from one player.

    • @ultimatum8517
      @ultimatum8517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It says in the description...

  • @MIZUTANI09
    @MIZUTANI09 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a pity!! Timo. Best result was quater final in Olymics. In London, He lost in round of 16 same as 2000, 2008. Considering his age, London may be the last Olympics for him.

  • @HenryYeomansMotion
    @HenryYeomansMotion 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It only shows the points waldner won.

  • @rosamelfierro6093
    @rosamelfierro6093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JOV my favorite one

  • @ivoaelse
    @ivoaelse 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredibble match!!
    The old to the new, with waldner as winner, but Boll is nwo doing what waldner already did!
    accept for the WC's and Olympic medals for now!!

  • @rudolfkungel3602
    @rudolfkungel3602 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legende zu Lebzeiten 🙏 Maradona sagte: das war die Hand Gottes . Jan Ove Waldner hatte eine göttliche Hand.👍

  • @soccerfish8
    @soccerfish8 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The video always skips the points that Timo Boll won.....

  • @Slabbe1337
    @Slabbe1337 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video is more like a tribute to waldner, we all know timo did some badass points to

  • @QuantumStates
    @QuantumStates 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is a little too heavily biased towards Waldner. We all know Waldner is the greatest, but Timo put up a good fight and made some good points too.

  • @magnussturesson1722
    @magnussturesson1722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Es genügt doch nicht gegen ein Waldner in dieser Verfassung! The commentator here was a big part of the pleasure.
    Größte Respekt vor der Leistung Kommentators auch!

  • @itsm3th3b33
    @itsm3th3b33 ปีที่แล้ว

    These two have such defining playing styles that I could recognize them without seeing their faces. In fact, I could do it just by looking at their legs.
    Waldner doesn't have much of a foot work other than stomping on the floor. And TBoll likes to do a Sumo squat just before receiving a serve. 😂

  • @vicsetyono8547
    @vicsetyono8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are legends

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waldner is legend,Boll didn't win anything.And don't tell me about the Chinese 'cause if Waldner was lefthanded like Boll he would have won at least 5 WTTC.Imagine Waldner's forehand hook going to the backhand of penholders.That would be massacre.

  • @jaimeton98
    @jaimeton98 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Why u only put the nice points from waldne? i think timo boll had also a good level at that time and he did nice points in that match tho.

    • @MarkEWallace
      @MarkEWallace 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, it *IS* titled "Waldner's points."

    • @PongGod
      @PongGod 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The point of the video was basically a tribute to Waldner.

    • @detskalldaltas133
      @detskalldaltas133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are interested of the King.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boll made like 5 winners in whole match.He has a very boring game,just plays slow loops and counterloops near the table.

  • @euphoria_kisses
    @euphoria_kisses 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who said you needed long pips for deception? Waldner himself proves that you can be tricky otherwise!

  • @der_pabst866
    @der_pabst866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:08 wtf is that person in the crowd doing?

  • @piyu1154
    @piyu1154 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    but the Swedish magic is short lived and the Swedish is also just another robot just more subtle

    • @andreialexandruparfeni7129
      @andreialexandruparfeni7129 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Piyu Huang It wasn't "short lived". 1983-2001 is not "short lived".

    • @abhishekvasanth2498
      @abhishekvasanth2498 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It took years for the Chinese to analyze and beat waldner.He faced three generations of Chinese factory of players.The points were changes from 21 to 11.The Ball was changed to 40mm which took the opportunity from defensive oriennted players.Today's players are just robots and no one has the grace like Jo waldner.

  • @KungKarlStudios
    @KungKarlStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:11 Jonas Sjöstedt? hahah

    • @zoom5024
      @zoom5024 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahah är det den dåren?

  • @Luca33600
    @Luca33600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How could Timo Boll lose that 1-4 ? 1-4 !

    • @arnehammarlind4420
      @arnehammarlind4420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waldner was in His prime

    • @Luca33600
      @Luca33600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arnehammarlind4420 no. He was in his prime in 1996 but not in 2004

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Luca33600 Actually Waldner was more afraid of Karakasevic than Boll.Boll's all spin zero speed game doesn't work against him.
      A half decent Waldner beats Boll 9 out of 10 times.Even Rosskopf was more of a challenge for him.
      To beat Waldner you need solid defence and great power.Boll had neither of those.

  • @MrTopspin21
    @MrTopspin21 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    okay, none of timo's points were shown at all in this video

  • @Iennal
    @Iennal 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Timo Boll didn't have enough experiment at that time,however, Waldner was an old, famous player

  • @wickedisgood8011
    @wickedisgood8011 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    daaamn. didn't know Arnold Swarchzenegro is that good in table tennis.

  • @伊藤稔-w8d
    @伊藤稔-w8d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ワルドナーは対左シェークドライブマンには滅法強い☆ ライバルにアペルグレン、リンド、ウルフベンクソン 先輩にステランベンクソンと色んなタイプの左ドライブマンがいたからだと思う。 よって、全盛期のボルもかなわなかったんだろう✨

  • @g4mbl4er
    @g4mbl4er 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone that notice that the guy said, 3 set waldner serve 3:44

  • @MisterJordanRules
    @MisterJordanRules 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best of the video was 4:02