Could you suggest or create a video for Dorico beginners that explains step by step how to export MIDI files from Logic and import them into Dorico? I'm particularly interested in how to handle drumset tracks recorded with standard MIDI settings in Logic.
Fantastic workflow tip. Thanks so much. Curious - why not do this with 2 separate Dorico projects (Copy from the exported MIDI and paste into a nice template)? Setting up the switchable layers in the same flow seems like extra work. PS yes I'm here because of Finalegate but already liking a lot about Dorico!
The last time i checked there's a slight hang time when switching between open projects on Dorico (unlike in Sibelius). I think this was one of the main reasons I chose this approach.
thank you very much videos are amazingly useful ! i think a video showing your full workflow with family instruments layering lyke strings quintet for example could be facinating for the community ( using LPX, DIVISIMATE and DORICO ) by the way i noticed that you do not use Art conductor for articulations changes but into a score (same staff) violins for example are using a lot of different articulations into the same staff so maybe you have a brilliant idea to manage that also in order to export everything into Dorico even the articulations. One more time many thx for this YT channel !
This is certainly a great tip. But how do you open Dorico (5) with these side by side windows? I don't see any dropdown menu items that make this possible, and couldn't find a method specific to this in the manual. If it exists in the manual...can you share that page number? Thanks...
Great vid -- really appreciate the clear walkthrough and clever use of features to make it all pretty seamless. I might try this in a project I have today of exploding some sketch MIDI into a full orchestration. Your use of multiple desktops (or is it spaces?) at around 8:08 is intriguing to me because this is a feature of macOS I've never really learned or dug into. Where'd you learn that?
Hi Vince...how do you compare Dorico to say Musescore or Notion 6, and, do you know if you can drop MIDI into either Musescore or Notion 6. Do you use Dorico because you use Cubase?
Hiya! As far as I'm aware Dorico is the only one offering this type of workflow using MIDI. For professional use I think Dorico is the way to go but for casual/personal use Musescore is more than powerful enough for most things. You might also consider Dorico Elements depending on your needs. I haven't used Notion I'm afraid!
Cool! I'd be interested in actually going the other way around - since I vastly prefer to sketch inside notation and work out orchestration that way (without fussing about with a million tracks for different libraries and shorts vs. longs etc, I just have one staff per instrument and I can see all my harmony vertically, also making it super easy to see doublings and rhythm. But even though Dorico's play mode has DAW-like features and automation, the mixer is pretty limited, so I want to take my sketches into a DAW for mix finesse (and also adding more sound design + recorded audio), while ideally still preserving stuff like articulations (as keyswitches) and dynamic hairpins as CC data... if possible. Have you tried going this direction?
Jonathan, sounds like a good idea. I start with Dorico and import into Logic - like you do for more control. I like and use Dorico’s input across Staves - it saves time and you can make some interesting scores with different harmonic structures, like Quartal harmonies.
Thank you, this is very interesting. I posted a comment asking why you don't just do it with Logic's Score Editor alongside the Piano Roll -- assuming that this must be possible. But I've just tried it, and I don't think it is!
I personally just find the score editor a bit clunky to work with. Plus I’d always want to bring it into proper notation software at some point in the process so for me this type of workflow makes sense.
At 6:10 you say "click this button down here to add it to the flow" but I can't quite see what button you pressed (it might be obscured by your headshot video?)
There are definitely advantages to composing directly into notation software. I just tend to find it more constraining - I've spent a long time working in a DAW so that's where I can sketch out ideas most quickly. It might change though!
Thanks for sharing this!
Could you suggest or create a video for Dorico beginners that explains step by step how to export MIDI files from Logic and import them into Dorico? I'm particularly interested in how to handle drumset tracks recorded with standard MIDI settings in Logic.
Nice tip 👍
Fantastic workflow tip. Thanks so much. Curious - why not do this with 2 separate Dorico projects (Copy from the exported MIDI and paste into a nice template)? Setting up the switchable layers in the same flow seems like extra work. PS yes I'm here because of Finalegate but already liking a lot about Dorico!
The last time i checked there's a slight hang time when switching between open projects on Dorico (unlike in Sibelius). I think this was one of the main reasons I chose this approach.
thank you very much videos are amazingly useful ! i think a video showing your full workflow with family instruments layering lyke strings quintet for example could be facinating for the community ( using LPX, DIVISIMATE and DORICO ) by the way i noticed that you do not use Art conductor for articulations changes but into a score (same staff) violins for example are using a lot of different articulations into the same staff so maybe you have a brilliant idea to manage that also in order to export everything into Dorico even the articulations. One more time many thx for this YT channel !
This is certainly a great tip. But how do you open Dorico (5) with these side by side windows? I don't see any dropdown menu items that make this possible, and couldn't find a method specific to this in the manual. If it exists in the manual...can you share that page number? Thanks...
Hey Charles! If you just mean rearranging the windows - it's a mac thing (which I demonstrate at 8:00) or let me know if you mean something different
Great vid -- really appreciate the clear walkthrough and clever use of features to make it all pretty seamless. I might try this in a project I have today of exploding some sketch MIDI into a full orchestration. Your use of multiple desktops (or is it spaces?) at around 8:08 is intriguing to me because this is a feature of macOS I've never really learned or dug into. Where'd you learn that?
Hi Vince...how do you compare Dorico to say Musescore or Notion 6, and, do you know if you can drop MIDI into either Musescore or Notion 6.
Do you use Dorico because you use Cubase?
Hiya! As far as I'm aware Dorico is the only one offering this type of workflow using MIDI. For professional use I think Dorico is the way to go but for casual/personal use Musescore is more than powerful enough for most things. You might also consider Dorico Elements depending on your needs. I haven't used Notion I'm afraid!
@@vincecomposer Thanks for your reply, Vince! Much appreciated...might have to start saving!!
Cool! I'd be interested in actually going the other way around - since I vastly prefer to sketch inside notation and work out orchestration that way (without fussing about with a million tracks for different libraries and shorts vs. longs etc, I just have one staff per instrument and I can see all my harmony vertically, also making it super easy to see doublings and rhythm. But even though Dorico's play mode has DAW-like features and automation, the mixer is pretty limited, so I want to take my sketches into a DAW for mix finesse (and also adding more sound design + recorded audio), while ideally still preserving stuff like articulations (as keyswitches) and dynamic hairpins as CC data... if possible. Have you tried going this direction?
Jonathan, sounds like a good idea. I start with Dorico and import into Logic - like you do for more control. I like and use Dorico’s input across Staves - it saves time and you can make some interesting scores with different harmonic structures, like Quartal harmonies.
Thank you, this is very interesting. I posted a comment asking why you don't just do it with Logic's Score Editor alongside the Piano Roll -- assuming that this must be possible. But I've just tried it, and I don't think it is!
I personally just find the score editor a bit clunky to work with. Plus I’d always want to bring it into proper notation software at some point in the process so for me this type of workflow makes sense.
@@vincecomposer I agree, DAWs built in score editors are not up to par (I tried using Cubase's before moving to Dorico)
At 6:10 you say "click this button down here to add it to the flow" but I can't quite see what button you pressed (it might be obscured by your headshot video?)
yes sorry it's a button just behind my head 😅 the one with the document and plus sign icon
why don't direct compose on Dorico？
There are definitely advantages to composing directly into notation software. I just tend to find it more constraining - I've spent a long time working in a DAW so that's where I can sketch out ideas most quickly. It might change though!