Cheers for the watch, That 1st stone sounds coarse as. Love it.. 😁Ahh moving on. 👍s up. Thanks for the tips. You do make it look so easy. Good results, like that strop to.
Exactly. I just use clear packing tape from the post office. Seems to work best, and pretty resistant to water. Well 2 reasons, so no slurry gets in the pivts, but also to prevent stray scratching, from the slurry
I like the looks of that knife but if I dropped that much money on it I would expect the geometry to be even and everything to be straight and lined up. That's just me though 😂 You put an excellent edge on it for what you had to go off of.
There is always some flaws that can be picked apart on every knife. The Socom's have so few, the ones that do stand out, really aren't as bad as they may seem.
Yes they are. However, they sharpen around 25°. So the edge is pretty obtuse. I've never really noticed much of an issue, since most of the blades I've received, have been thin behind the edge. Just something to make note of. Oh, and they will sharpen the knife free. Just gotta pay shipping.
No, they are not sharp from the factory. Anyone saying that they are has never had a sharp knife. Get a Wicked Edge or learn to do freehand like this and you'll quickly see how dull they were out of the box.
Tough choice, but since I do sharpen super steels, I would have to go with the Gritomatic stones. 240, 1k, 2500. If I were dealing with the non carbide stuff, I'd go shapton pro 320, 1k, 5k.
The most important stone for anyone honing razors is that first bevel setting stone, I use a Chosera 1K but a Naniwa 1K super stone will also work, my own personal progression looks like this, Chosera 1K, 3K, 5K, then I use a Naniwa Snow White 8K, Naniwa 12K, Suehiro Gokumyo 20K. strop 60 linen strop 60 leather.
@@j.mahoney1178 sounds good mate 😊 i use my shapton pro 220 then a naniwa professional 400 then naniwa professional 1000 then naniwa professional 3000 then naniwa professional 5000 or a kitayama 4000 for a little more bite
jcoolG19 2 does the Rockwell testing. That's his You Tube name. The video is up for the Socom test. I believe it was around 58. Not good at all. Great video.
So you aren’t sharpening subscribers knives any longer? I’ve got an older ZT 0620cf that I really need a new edge and it really needs some TLC. I’m just not very good at shaping and sharpening and you really look like you know what you are doing. If you charge to sharpen I’ll gladly pay it to get this knife looking good again.
Yes i still sharpen for anyone that asks. Just shoot me an email. I dont charge. Just gotta pay shipping and any insurance you want. Jefjewell@gmail.com
Just clear packing tape from the post office. Unless you have a cheaply coated blade (like one that is just painted), the tape should not affect the finish. It may suck the oil out of it, but just applying a thin coat, and wiping it off with paper towel, should get it looking just fine
I hone razors professionally, I will say your technique for sharpening a knife is pretty good, my only criticism would be, you will never be able to maintain the correct angle free-handing while sharpening a knife, I have on occasion sharpened my own Chef knives free-hand up to 8K Naniwa stone, If I sharpen razors I finish on a 20K Suehiro Gokumyo, the hair cutting test you show would barely register If I touch the same hair with one of my finished razors, personally I would prefer to use a pro sharpening set up where you have the exact angle.
The test i showed wasn’t hair, but a material, the guys who started the bess “c” program, designed. Feels kinda like fishing line. I do use fixed angle guides on occasion but i prefer to free hand. I think they are fantastic. My preference however, is free hand. I get similar results, although the bevel geometry on the fixed guides is flat, where free hand is convexed.
@@meanbean_9080, Eric, yes of course you can, where are you as I'm in the UK, you would be better off contacting me through Facebook where you can see my work. facebook.com/jamie.mahoney.9279
Freehand can be just as good as anything. How about craving a bunch of wood then still being able to whittle a hair? Go to 13:13 th-cam.com/video/TI9PZjNIjJY/w-d-xo.html
Yes that’s what I do and I get a slight burr but you can barley feel it. Then I keep going and it stays the same. I used a cheap hardware stone with a 400 and 600 grit side but that didn’t do much but give me a slight burr. And I’m consistent with my angle. I have good water stones but the lowest grit I have is a 1200 cause that has always worked for me to start on. Do you think a better quality water stone that’s a low grit would help since 204p is a pretty hard steel.
Well even a cheap hardware sic stone should be able to produce a sharp edge. Once you develop a burr on both sides, and remove it, even at a coarse grit, the edge should be sharp. Try cutting paper or something, when you come off the coarse stone, and make sure it’s sharp. If so then continue to the next stone and repeat.
@@Jef it's quite disappointing. I just bought an ultratech and the damn thing might as well have a 90-degree "edge" it literally wouldn't cut anything. I think the 2020 madness caused their QC to go through the floor.
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Idk why... but it's sooo relaxing sharpening knives.... lol
Hell yeah!!!! 👍 cant wait to do the review on the socoms i got sent to me
👍 personally i love em. A tad large for edc but they are slender in profile.
Nicely done. That Sodom Elite is a good looking knife.
Yea they rock!
Cheers for the watch,
That 1st stone sounds coarse as. Love it.. 😁Ahh moving on.
👍s up. Thanks for the tips.
You do make it look so easy.
Good results, like that strop to.
Right on!
Jef great video!!! Thanks for sharing brother!!!👊👊👊
thank you for taking the time to watch!
Thanks Jeff your not doing to bad for a beginner. Lol. Atb paddy 👍😀☘️
I’m getting there 😁
What are you covering the blade with? How are you doing it? Is that to ensure no stone slurry in the action? Thanks
Exactly. I just use clear packing tape from the post office. Seems to work best, and pretty resistant to water. Well 2 reasons, so no slurry gets in the pivts, but also to prevent stray scratching, from the slurry
I like the looks of that knife but if I dropped that much money on it I would expect the geometry to be even and everything to be straight and lined up. That's just me though 😂 You put an excellent edge on it for what you had to go off of.
There is always some flaws that can be picked apart on every knife. The Socom's have so few, the ones that do stand out, really aren't as bad as they may seem.
@@Jef that's understandable.
Is microtech very sharp when you first get one ? Thanks for sharing your video
Yes they are. However, they sharpen around 25°. So the edge is pretty obtuse. I've never really noticed much of an issue, since most of the blades I've received, have been thin behind the edge. Just something to make note of. Oh, and they will sharpen the knife free. Just gotta pay shipping.
One of the sharpest factory edges out there.
No, they are not sharp from the factory. Anyone saying that they are has never had a sharp knife. Get a Wicked Edge or learn to do freehand like this and you'll quickly see how dull they were out of the box.
Just wondering mate if ya only could choose three stones for the rest of your life what would they be?
Tough choice, but since I do sharpen super steels, I would have to go with the Gritomatic stones. 240, 1k, 2500. If I were dealing with the non carbide stuff, I'd go shapton pro 320, 1k, 5k.
The most important stone for anyone honing razors is that first bevel setting stone, I use a Chosera 1K but a Naniwa 1K super stone will also work, my own personal progression looks like this, Chosera 1K, 3K, 5K, then I use a Naniwa Snow White 8K, Naniwa 12K, Suehiro Gokumyo 20K. strop 60 linen strop 60 leather.
@@j.mahoney1178 sounds good mate 😊 i use my shapton pro 220 then a naniwa professional 400 then naniwa professional 1000 then naniwa professional 3000 then naniwa professional 5000 or a kitayama 4000 for a little more bite
jcoolG19 2 does the Rockwell testing. That's his You Tube name. The video is up for the Socom test. I believe it was around 58. Not good at all. Great video.
Yea I didn't realize he put out a video on it. I've been out of the loop for awhile now. Miss a few weeks and everything zips right by ya!
@@Jef it's always better to see the test and results for yourself. Now that's only 1 knife but still. It came up lower than expected.
Wait, why do you apply tape to the blade and handle?
To prevent accidents. If i smack the blade, drop it on the stone, or whatever. With the tape, it is partially protected.
@@Jef thanks
@@Jef are you doing 25 degrees per side like they do from the factory or something else? I may have missed it in the video.
On most Microtech’s yea. I usually follow the factory grind
So you aren’t sharpening subscribers knives any longer? I’ve got an older ZT 0620cf that I really need a new edge and it really needs some TLC. I’m just not very good at shaping and sharpening and you really look like you know what you are doing. If you charge to sharpen I’ll gladly pay it to get this knife looking good again.
Yes i still sharpen for anyone that asks. Just shoot me an email. I dont charge. Just gotta pay shipping and any insurance you want. Jefjewell@gmail.com
What tape do you use on the knives when sharpening? I’m paranoid it will mess up the finish.
Just clear packing tape from the post office. Unless you have a cheaply coated blade (like one that is just painted), the tape should not affect the finish. It may suck the oil out of it, but just applying a thin coat, and wiping it off with paper towel, should get it looking just fine
I hone razors professionally, I will say your technique for sharpening a knife is pretty good, my only criticism would be, you will never be able to maintain the correct angle free-handing while sharpening a knife, I have on occasion sharpened my own Chef knives free-hand up to 8K Naniwa stone, If I sharpen razors I finish on a 20K Suehiro Gokumyo, the hair cutting test you show would barely register If I touch the same hair with one of my finished razors, personally I would prefer to use a pro sharpening set up where you have the exact angle.
The test i showed wasn’t hair, but a material, the guys who started the bess “c” program, designed. Feels kinda like fishing line. I do use fixed angle guides on occasion but i prefer to free hand. I think they are fantastic. My preference however, is free hand. I get similar results, although the bevel geometry on the fixed guides is flat, where free hand is convexed.
Can I send you a razor?
@@meanbean_9080, Eric, yes of course you can, where are you as I'm in the UK, you would be better off contacting me through Facebook where you can see my work. facebook.com/jamie.mahoney.9279
Freehand can be just as good as anything. How about craving a bunch of wood then still being able to whittle a hair? Go to 13:13 th-cam.com/video/TI9PZjNIjJY/w-d-xo.html
Would you be willing to do my Socom Elite Tanto? I wanna learn Tanto but dont wanna f up my Socom. You do amazing work!
If you would like me to sure. Shoot me an email. Jefjewell@gmail.com
Idk if it’s the 204p steel but I can’t get an edge on it.
Are you grinding it till you feel a burr?
Yes that’s what I do and I get a slight burr but you can barley feel it. Then I keep going and it stays the same. I used a cheap hardware stone with a 400 and 600 grit side but that didn’t do much but give me a slight burr. And I’m consistent with my angle. I have good water stones but the lowest grit I have is a 1200 cause that has always worked for me to start on. Do you think a better quality water stone that’s a low grit would help since 204p is a pretty hard steel.
Well even a cheap hardware sic stone should be able to produce a sharp edge. Once you develop a burr on both sides, and remove it, even at a coarse grit, the edge should be sharp. Try cutting paper or something, when you come off the coarse stone, and make sure it’s sharp. If so then continue to the next stone and repeat.
Have you used that g8 yet?
I forgot i even had it! I need to get that going this week and see how it works
I really love Microtech but I really don't love their edge angle.
I’ve found they usually sharpen em to 25 degree/side. Pretty steep
@@Jef it's quite disappointing. I just bought an ultratech and the damn thing might as well have a 90-degree "edge" it literally wouldn't cut anything. I think the 2020 madness caused their QC to go through the floor.
They just need to hire me as a full time sharpener. I’ll get them edges right 😁
@@Jef I completely agree haha
@@flugel6856 had that problem with my UTX 85.