What is Epic Doom Metal? (Dark Souls of Music)

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  • @whatsinameme5258
    @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Forgive me for the abrupt sound at the end. It wasn't there before oddly enough. Songs used: Solitude, Crystal Ball, and Under the Oak by Candlemass. Thirsty and Miserable by Saint Vitus. Queen of the Masquerade by Crimson Glory. A Little Fire by Cirith Ungol. Heaven and Hell by (Dio Era) Black Sabbath. Heaven and hell (Sabbath Cover), Mirror of Sorrow, and Destiny Falls to Ruin by Solitude Aeturnus. N.I.B., Paranoid, and War Pigs by (Ozzy Era) Black Sabbath. Secret Mountain, Tidecaller, Blackened Sun, and Angel's Blood by Bell. Free Country by Witchfinder General. Visions and The Battle by Sorcerer. The River Dragon Has Come, Believe in Nothing, Inside Four Walls, Sell My Heart For Stones, and Emptiness Unobstructed by Nevermore. Sol Invictus by Atlantean Kodex. Sorrow of the Angels by While Heaven Wept. All is Accomplished by Forsaken. One by One They Died by Procession. Most of the artwork used is by Frank Frazetta if anyone is curious.

  • @losingluke
    @losingluke 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    metal is so much more extensive than most people will never know

  • @radiosavior6361
    @radiosavior6361 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The early Power Metal/Power Metal mixed with Doom Metal is something I call "Epic Metal".

  • @relic374
    @relic374 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    candlemass' vocal style reminds me of jack skellington from a nightmare before christmas. I can't unhear this

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I can hear some similarities, haha.

  • @10hawell
    @10hawell ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Dark Souls of music is dungeon synth

    • @zippovu
      @zippovu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      literally

  • @Malum09
    @Malum09 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Guitar Tone on Epic Doom is so good, also I would say that The Last Dio Sabbath Album, the one released under the band moniker of Heaven and Hell is their true Epic Doom album.

  • @alexandrunae9378
    @alexandrunae9378 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love doom and power metal so this is beyond fantastic.
    Candlemass is one of my favorite bands

  • @KabareKeimado
    @KabareKeimado ปีที่แล้ว +23

    My favorite genre of music! The best album ever is Scald's " Will of The Gods Is Great Power". But I also consider Bathory's Hammerheart an epic doom metal album

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's becoming a favourite of mine as well. Will check those out.

    • @lordkardok5845
      @lordkardok5845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bathory's Hammerheart is a Viking Metal album, afaik it is the FIRST Viking Metal album. I personally prefer Bathory's Black Metal to their Viking metal, but I don't think there is any ambiguity to the claim that Quorthon is the patriarch of the Viking Metal genre, compared to the endless shitstorm about who started Black Metal between Bathory and Venom.

    • @neuroisis85
      @neuroisis85 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@lordkardok5845 Yeah but Viking Metal is just Epic Metal with left over bits of Black Metal and Folk. I wouldn't call Hammerheart "Doom" but the Doom is in there because it's present in all forms of Epic Metal.

  • @adamc.b.4378
    @adamc.b.4378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you said at 6:20 is why I love this channel. Few can convey that type of thing well in a sentence.

  • @weldrum7226
    @weldrum7226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey! Thank you so much for putting BELL on here 🤘
    Cheers from the Guitarist/Vocalist

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers! Thanks for the cool tunes! You're welcome!

  • @coldalex420
    @coldalex420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the whole video I was waiting for you to mention Crypt Sermon. Was really surprised it wasn't even included in your list of newer bands in this style. Anyone who likes epic doom metal or just metal in general should check them out, especially the album 'Ruins of fading light'. Incredibly slept on band.

  • @ATEN_DNAR
    @ATEN_DNAR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my favorite genres. This video gave me a lot of great recommendations.

  • @abyss9316
    @abyss9316 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found your channel recently after your latest upload I have to say you have an amazing Channel all your videos are great I've heard quite a few bands I've never heard anybody else on TH-cam mention quite surprising actually glad to have learned so much from your videos

  • @surjackeroff
    @surjackeroff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just discovered your channel. great stuff.

  • @sillylittleboy93
    @sillylittleboy93 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thi channel is honestly my go to for finding new music. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @Tonbizzle
    @Tonbizzle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I 100% agree, the tone of the music itself is more indicative of the genre than the lyrical content. When you hear droning guitars, or a trap beat, that's telling you what to be feeling, and the lyrics can adjust the mood left or right a bit, giving you a smile or a frown while you shoe-gaze or dance.

  • @ReinoRankaisija
    @ReinoRankaisija 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm an old school doom head and it's so hard to come by any coverage on the kind of doom that I like. Or new bands. There are so few really good bands compared to any other genre. Thanks a lot for this!

  • @heyyou8714
    @heyyou8714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a band that I couldn't remember for the longest time that I was able to find here. Solitude aeturnus. I heard scent of death a couple years back and took a liking to them but as my playlist expanded I lost them. Thanks for posting these in depth dealios

  • @kilo15
    @kilo15 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this video title because whenever I play Souls games or the Berserk musou game I play Candlemass or Solitude Aeturnus in the background

  • @TheMrShnickers
    @TheMrShnickers ปีที่แล้ว

    CIRITH UNGOL MENTIONEDDDD. But thank you for this vid I’ve been looking for new music and this has treasure trove for it. Doom metal is one of my absolute favs in the metal genre

  • @shroomlord682
    @shroomlord682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, definitely checking those bands out, idk how you dont have more subs

  • @nickcoleman32
    @nickcoleman32 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this. Its crazy how i missed this entire genre! Definitely a sound I was looking for. Rock on

  • @thoushaltremain
    @thoushaltremain ปีที่แล้ว

    I just looove when you drop your own particular insightful perspective. It's so refreshing that it's reviving my motivation to listen to new music, which I thought I had lost. Now I'm hoping some day someone does an EBM cover of "let the bodys hit the floor".

  • @mathewbouse1105
    @mathewbouse1105 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Using Dio as the image for power metal is unfathomably based

  • @PropagandasaurusRex
    @PropagandasaurusRex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most underrated and forgotten Epic Doom band: Count Raven from Sweden. Especially the first two albums are great.

  • @Dailo_Ma
    @Dailo_Ma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I first heard Candlemass during a family car ride when i was like 9, been a fan since. If you like the operatic style vocals you should DEFINITELY check out Mirror of Deception, their song Ghost is absolutely iconic and even though instrumentally its not as flashy as most epic doom stuff, the vocals are phenomenal and very sorrowful.

  • @varyagace
    @varyagace ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit. I have been getting back into playing guitar recently, and I've been trying to pin down what brings my tastes together, what could constitute "My sound". I think this video just succintly put everything I like about music and want to sound like, into a singular thing. Yes, I love Candlemass. Yes, Heaven and Hell is my favorite Sabbath album, alongside the other standalone album The Devil You Know. This was, completely unironically, the most enlightening video I've watched on TH-cam in AGES. I legitimately feel like my eyes have been opened. Grant us eyes. I love themes like Dark Souls and Bloodborne, and I had to keep pausing the video to go save the other bands you mentioned to my Spotify. Bell sounds absolutely fucking AMAZING.
    This is exactly what I want to sound like, somewhere between Dream Theater and Mastodon, with a flavor of Doom.

  • @krystofbrichta4214
    @krystofbrichta4214 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great vid yet again !
    7:51 fokin relatable m8

  • @MegaMicah12
    @MegaMicah12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have never guessed Epic Doom would have Power metal influence of any sort. But yeah, it really does have that.

  • @StellarSteven
    @StellarSteven ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too had this thought that epic doom metal is like dark souls.

  • @FedeMayhemile.
    @FedeMayhemile. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It can be said that Epic Doom objectively borrows only 3 elements from Power Metal, the operatic vocal technique, the lyrical fantasy based theme, but darker (though this depends, as not all bands do this) & maybe the use of some classical influences, but you must consider the fact that the originators of the concept, 'Candlemass', started out and existed in the 80's, the time in which most Metal bands used some of those elements (excluding Death Metal, obviously) it's not a Power Metal subgenre or fusion, because beyond those 3 elements (and the evident contrasting tone/atmosphere) the compositional style/techniques are clearly different, bands that do borrow from PM are 'Sorcerer' and 'Memory Garden' for example, it also shares the 'not very serious' and sometimes 'cheesy' attitude from the era, thing that the darker/original sounding Epic Doom bands like 'later Solitude Aeturnus', 'Isole' & 'Night Gaunt' tend to delete/modify and make their own sound, it's a Doom Metal subgenre, and btw, early Black Sabbath is called 'Proto-Doom' for a reason, Iommi laid some basic elements, but their sound is closer to Stoner/Doom than to Trad Doom, as that sound was fully developed in the 80's by bands like Saint Vitus & Trouble, the Ozzy Era's only almost full-on Doom Metal song is 'Black Sabbath'.

  • @loweffortproductions1985
    @loweffortproductions1985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Welp, now I gotta make an Epic Doom cover of WAP. brb

  • @kamatsutra7031
    @kamatsutra7031 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, what a good video. Greetings from Brazil, hope you get more than a million subs one day.

  • @ribeiroeribeiro
    @ribeiroeribeiro ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been a while since I've watched your stuff or comented, but I'm going on a binge right now. Would love to hear your takes on music outside rock/metal. Especially hip hop / rap which is probably my most listened to overarching genre.

  • @ATEN_DNAR
    @ATEN_DNAR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like The Day You Built the Wall by Nevermore. It makes me think of man vainly slaving away to build the tower of Babel.

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly Nevermore is one of my favourite bands. One of the few bands whose ballads hit as hard as their heavier material. Sentient 6 is another that always gets me.

    • @ATEN_DNAR
      @ATEN_DNAR ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whatsinameme5258 I went ahead and listened to Sentient 6, and, yeah, it's awesome. I might still be acquiring the taste for this band, but I don't find a lot of Nevermore's "regular" metal songs as engaging as a few standouts. But those standout songs are really good.

  • @fahrezirafid8
    @fahrezirafid8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give me some sad Epic Doom Metal songs like "Mirror Of Sorrow" & "Solitude" !

  • @metalwizard5502
    @metalwizard5502 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:40

  • @Navarothravenheart2688
    @Navarothravenheart2688 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic doom scene is inseparable from this specific uspm/epic heavy niche, so I treat it all as different approaches to same music phenomenon.
    Best part of metal scene in my opinion.

  • @statiic_hydra8678
    @statiic_hydra8678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After hearing some of the samples from candlemass, I think I will really like Epic Doom Metal when I get around to it (i have a system for listening to music). Will you be making a video on Industrial Metal?

  • @careful...Icarus
    @careful...Icarus ปีที่แล้ว

    Anything Iommi is on is true doom. Even the coughing on Sweet Leaf is fucking doom. Great video. Vacuuming burrrrrrritosssssssss...in hell.

  • @grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic8954
    @grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic8954 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me The Great Epic Doom Metal Trinity is Candlemass, Solitude Aeturnus and Solstice. But that's just me

  • @Astro2XA
    @Astro2XA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doom is one of my favorite genres of metal - particularly the slower and more depressive styles. Big fan of While Heaven Wept and Atlantean Kodex and I'm very happy to see both get mentioned. One question I have for you in particular cause I'm kind of mixed on it myself - Warning's Watching from a Distance; would you consider it Epic Doom? It does fit into the genre with the operatic-esque vocals and the more slowed down rhythms and melodies, but at the same time it feels completely different than the likes of Candlemass or Solitude Aeternus.

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I would call it Epic Doom. I don't know quite how to explain it, but newer Epic Doom has a different vibe than the 80s and 90s stuff. Its less whimsical aand more straight up depressing it seems. Almost seems closer to Funeral Doom. There is probably some crossover between these styles. I will be covering Funeral Doom soon in this series.

    • @Astro2XA
      @Astro2XA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whatsinameme5258 I 100% agree. Epic Doom most definitely has a different feel and vibe nowadays. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just... different.
      I can't wait for your episode on Funeral Doom. Probably my favorite Doom subgenre even though it's probably the hardest to get into. Am excited to hear your opinions on it!

  • @jackko21
    @jackko21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok now i need someone to do a epic doom version of wap

  • @mr.echo24
    @mr.echo24 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man! Would you call the band Trouble (Specifically the song The Tempeter) Traditional Doom Metal or Epic Doom Metal?

  • @EasyM.
    @EasyM. ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic Doom is awesome. Might i recommend ALTAR OF OBLIVION to the listeners. Epic Doom of the highest quality.

  • @KelvinFlores-nw7zp
    @KelvinFlores-nw7zp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nombre de todas las canciones

  • @apolloxeon
    @apolloxeon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bell sounds pretty good ngl

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I'm enjoying that album a lot, and super underrated too!

    • @weldrum7226
      @weldrum7226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks dude!!
      /The singer from BELL 🤘

  • @looseleaf8721
    @looseleaf8721 ปีที่แล้ว

    You probably have another video planned, but I think a video of jazz metal would be sick. It's like djent but more proggy. Using saxophones and keyboards and shit. CKRAFT did a great album embodying this style.

  • @DarkMetalGortex
    @DarkMetalGortex ปีที่แล้ว

    My kind of Doom

  • @benhurley6687
    @benhurley6687 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wouldn’t Opeth also be considered epic doom? Albeit with Prog and Death metal influences as well.

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doom influence for sure. Not so sure about Power Metal influence, but I could see the argument for Epic Doom.

  • @Beastlango
    @Beastlango ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doomsword mixes doom and power, but I don’t think I would call them epic doom

  • @arbuznazarov9326
    @arbuznazarov9326 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what's that Sorcerer album called?
    upd: nevermind, found it, it's Anno 1503

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it's strange. Some places it's just called "Demo" other places it's called that. I had difficulty finding the lyrics, not that they are hard to understand thankfully.

  • @vikgrig8015
    @vikgrig8015 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do one on Power Metal and USPM.

  • @AussoOnePlus
    @AussoOnePlus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isole from Sweden

  • @dvrkzen
    @dvrkzen ปีที่แล้ว

    With that kind of guitars I would do epic Doom Electronic, damn... so good. Any guitarist willing to cooperate maybe?

  • @Nadinetherescuehound
    @Nadinetherescuehound ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't Merciful fate be in the same category as candlemass. How is Melissa or Abigail not even mentioned on a comparison offshoot. How can you talk about operatic vocals affecting the meaning and miss Fate/King. Satan's Fall? And Melissa being sacrificed to fulfill her purpose to live on. "She's with me every day."

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like Mercyful Fate but I wouldn't class them as Epic Doom. They are more NWOBHM sound meets Occult Rock. Think Judas Priest and Blue Oyster Cult mixed together. Totally different vibe than Epic Doom Metal. Some would also argue Mercyful Fate is some sort of Proto-Black Metal as well, though this is mostly due the satanic themes, which are notably absent in Epic Doom. Though I see where you are coming from. I hear some Candlemass-ish moments, here and there.

  • @3_14pie
    @3_14pie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "the dark souls of X" is usually a horrible take, but in this case, yeah, you're spot on

  • @deadlegs187
    @deadlegs187 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I suggest a little Electric Wizard to spice up ya souls adventure

  • @andre1377
    @andre1377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tommy iomi king of metal

  • @KelvinFlores-nw7zp
    @KelvinFlores-nw7zp ปีที่แล้ว

    Songs?

  • @Wilcocliw
    @Wilcocliw ปีที่แล้ว

    3:06 what song is this?

  • @Brachiophore
    @Brachiophore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Dark Souls is Epic Doom Metal, than Bloodborne would be either Black Metal or Death Metal. The visual aesthetics are more like Black Metal, but the brutal combat and lore fit the sound and lyrical themes of Death Metal.
    Maybe:
    DS = Epic Doom
    Bloodborne = Blackened Death Metal
    DS2 = Melodic Death Metal
    DS3 = Atmospheric Black Metal
    Kingsfield = Dungeon Synth

  • @acoustov
    @acoustov ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wap doom time

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This makes me think of that Family Guy meme with the Elephant Penguin. God: *looks at Wap Doom* "What the hell is this?"

    • @radiosavior6361
      @radiosavior6361 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whatsinameme5258 Glam Doom Metal

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@radiosavior6361 Actually it would probably end up sounding like Alice in Chains

    • @radiosavior6361
      @radiosavior6361 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whatsinameme5258 Album telling a story of adventurer being seduced by beautiful demon girl when?
      Edit:And possibly, yeah

  • @AkiWataru
    @AkiWataru ปีที่แล้ว

    bell is like folk doom metal lmao

  • @tyrkiske03
    @tyrkiske03 ปีที่แล้ว

    Song ? 0:42

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว

      Under the Oak: Candlemass. Songs are in my pinned comment btw.

    • @tyrkiske03
      @tyrkiske03 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whatsinameme5258 my fault, thanks

    • @Cowboyfromhell1234
      @Cowboyfromhell1234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Under the oak frok first album

  • @CarlosDLimaArt
    @CarlosDLimaArt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ahem! Where Power Metal?

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will get to it. Been on a doom kick lately

    • @tanzzz3170
      @tanzzz3170 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​​@@whatsinameme5258 Try Blind Guardian,
      Nightfall in Middle Earth is probably the best power metal album.
      They are as great as Iron Maiden , Opeth and the like IMHO..

  • @salttrap1740
    @salttrap1740 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reading Berserk and listening to epic doom is better than sex

  • @jean-philippegrignom6479
    @jean-philippegrignom6479 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was a teenager this is all I would listen to ahaha
    Idk
    Now I find it kind of cringe

  • @Barneyboy-uw3ux
    @Barneyboy-uw3ux ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I genuinely don't think you can call Black Sabbath doom metal. Through hindsight it's clear that Black Sabbath has a doom metal sound, but I don't think I would label the original heavy metal band with a subgenre... I feel like doing that defeats the purpose of them being the "first". Additionally, I feel like it was never Black Sabbaths intent to follow any particular path and I think labelling it purely doom also defeats that purpose. Like the sound of Black Sabbath and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is completely different and I would say there is no clear distinction... Candlemass seems more likely to be the first doom metal band than Sabbath.

  • @KelvinFlores-nw7zp
    @KelvinFlores-nw7zp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nombre de todas las canciones