I can't believe how complex this game is :O I've had it for a long time but never really got too far... I just got back to the game again, and really appreciate your guides. This game is crazy deep!
@@Magnet_MD Yeah, I gave up on this game way back in 2017 after dying for the 20th time at like cycle 50 or so (I kept accepting way too many duplicants and running out of water lol). Unfortunately, back then the game was young and there weren't too many "how to" videos floating around out there. Just got back into it though, thanks to your more recent "full playthrough" videos... and man did you change my opinion about this game. Now I'm just plowing through the years worth of content you've produced, absorbing it all and loving every minute of it lol. Anyways, I just wanted to leave a comment to say thanks, your videos are very well presented and easy to follow... and they're a literal "game changer" lol, glad I found your channel.
I love how many aspects of Chemical Engineering are in this game! I am in my 3rd year of studying Chemical Engineering at uni and it's so great to see parallels between the ideas utilised in industry and in this game!
Helpful, but a very poorly structured tutorial...too much of it was not planned or thought out in advance, too much on the fly, too many corrections...too haphazard
@@SFCgunny as a new player, TRUST ME, this is a tutorial. He spoke from experience, clearly trial and error, not from crushing numbers in sandbox mode and then tell a new player like myself add 5 of this thing but don't explain why. I personally have seen few with time stamps and even though I've seen this video repeatedly, as soon as I see a Geyser, guess where I run to? I know he doesn't seem organized or well thought out, but it's ONI, in my last 148 failing hours the lesson that sticks the most is "learn to adapt"
One **extremely** important point that should be mentioned at the very beginning: all vents, geysers and volcanoes erupt from exact same spot, second tile to the left and one up. So if you don't dig it - nothing will erupt. The thing about tempshift plates you said at the end - Insulated tiles exchange next to zero heat with liquids/solids and a teeny tiny bit of heat with gases. UNLESS! you put a tempshift plate next to them. Those will gladly inject all the heat to anything they touch. So, don't build tempshifts next to walls, unless you want to get better temp injection into walls (there are setups that do that. In fact, all your "metal room cooling" could use tempshift plates.) Consider diamond glass tiles instead of metal for better thermal conduction.
Another thing to note is that while the geysers won't erupt if that specific spot has a tile, you won't be able to analyze it either until it is dug out. Also if you accidentally expose a Volcano, put a Coal Temperature Shiftplate in that spot, then the next time the volcano will erupt, the plate will turn in a solid tile of refined carbon, thus blocking the volcano. Note that it will only work with volcanoes because the volcanoes are the only things who's output is hot enough to make the trick work.
This is a great idea! Thanks for the info. I'm guessing at some point I will break this up into smaller videos and include DLC objects as well, so I'll be sure to include that next time.
@@KittenyKat Oil biomes, Buried Oil has them at the bottom of the map, Irregular Oil has them all over the place If you get a particularly large one you should be able to salvage a few tons
Hey Magnet! I have over 400 hours in ONI and have JUST tamed my first volcano ever with the help of your video and it feels great!! Thank you for all your wonderful guides.
I am right under 100 hours playtime, in my second world (first was disaster), 5 dupes, over 200 cycles, still not having plastic or cooling system xD So much fun!
I've always searched by mineral, they all have a very distinctive huge black blob shape on top of them (at least on the beginner asteroid). Much more obvious for me.
I've owned this game for 7 years, ever since it came out pretty much. I've still not progressed to the point of producing a single drop of oil. That's how complex this seemingly cute fun game is. And I'm someone who's 100% completed Factorio (including the speedrun achievements) and almost mastered Dwarf Fortress - this game is more complex.
Easiest way and no danger way to analyse vents/geysers/ect is to leave 2nd tile from left and bottom then flood it with water 2 tiles deep and then dig last tile and analyse it. d d d d d d d d d L d d d d d d N N N N
I've been playing every now and then but never got to tame a metal volcano, and older guides felt outdated, so you've done me great service with this video, thank you
I was like "yeah as if I will ever watch this two-hour tutorial", and two hours later he we are! :D Started the game just this week and I am so overwhelmed by how complex it can be! Thanks for your very simple and entertaining way to explain everything!
Thanks for this! I really appreciate your "first the basics" approach. For myself, I prefer crawl-walk-run learning so I really understand what I'm trying to do, how and why. Fancy can come later. 👍
Belatedly, hot CO₂ vents are great places to build Molten Slickster ranches - the vent keeps it nice and hot (which is good because it ensures you get Molten Larva Eggs rather than regular ones) and you can pump in the CO₂ produced in the rest of your base, which the Molten Slicksters will convert to Petroleum, which you can burn for power and _more_ CO₂ (or you can do ridiculous things like feeding it to a sour-gas boiler/chiller, to get _still more_ power off the natgas that results, the downside in vanilla being that you produce sulphur as a byproduct). You can do something similar with regular slicksters producing Crude Oil, but you'll get better energy-efficiency if you use moltens (even if you convert the crude to petroleum, you'll not end up with as much of it as if you'd used molten slicksters in the first place).
@@overdramaticpan Hence "the downside _in vanilla_ being…". In _Spaced Out!_ it is, indeed, a nice byproduct. In vanilla, however, it's just a nuisance and is best handled by melting it and venting it to space.
Thank you for the comprehensive look at all the various things the game can give us. I appreciate the early game vibes, because most tutorials seem to be set up very late game as far as I have seen. Subbed!
1:36:10 about building tempshift plates near walls- it wasn't me :3 , but the thing is that they wil "pump" heat into the walls, afterward heating up the insulated tiles, unnecessary leaking heat. And they will do it in faster rate than normal contact of the walls with hot or cold material inside
yes the temp shift plates share the heat with the surrounding tiles in a square share (8 sqaures around the temp shift plate) so when you add it to the very end, you are basically defeating the purpose of the insulated tile by making it take more heat and then it will share that heat with the gas at the other side (so not really good insulation). You can solve this by either not adding temp shift plates to the very end or double insulate ur walls. A more efficient approach is to put your heat tiles in a chess like formation, saving some time in the build and some resources needed for the temp shift plates (specially if you are using diamond for the temp shift plates)
@@AmrXcellent I can confirm this. If I need something with tempshift plates, I make sure, it's at least 3x3 tiles tall, so I can place a plate inside without tempshifting into the wall. And some Time in the future I want to try if you can heat/cool natural abyssalite tiles this way and what will happen with neutronium tiles.
I appreciate how approachable this guide is. I love the hell out of this game but am hardly at hyper-optimized levels myself, though I like to think I've gotten a lot better. My second run ever I naively uncovered a volcano (I didn't know any better at the time!) and it completely wrecked my playthrough spitting lava everywhere and no longer really able to be contained because no dupe could go anywhere near it even in a suit. I've figured out what to do with most of the more approachable geysers since then, but had still been afraid to try and harness a volcano, and in general ONI is fun as hell but very opaque to non-pro players, so approachable guides like this are much appreciated! Maybe this run we'll finally tame the magma-spewing deathtraps.
This video was awesome, while I have been doing some more complicated builds this shows you really dont need to. Would have been a great tip to add an air lock and digging areas into a vacuum rather than always building a big set up and needing to create a vacuum, plus with the air lock you always have access later to fix the mistakes a lot of new players make. So much awesome info and learned some better ways to tame volcanos so thanks again for your awesome tutorial!!!
How many years later and i still come back to your complete guide for these things and check it out, thank you for taking the time to make something actually useful.
unless you actually want to make a whole bunch of mistakes that would make you feel silly after a couple cycles and learn from them instead of straight from the source material, try Francis John and Brothgar. seriously, an open-cycle cooling loop? just why? and no, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Great advice my man! I know this is 3 years old, but if anyone is having trouble building things in a straight line (such as at 1:11:25) you can hold shift down to only build straight up, down, left and right. You won't build everywhere the curser touches if you don't move directly straight.
Thanks to this video, I finally had the confidence to capture a volcano. It was a minor volcano, and I mean *MINOR*. I built according to what you saw, and it produced so little steam it barely got one steam turbine (out of the four) to run for about 20 seconds. My first volcano was a huge disappointment. LOL To be clear, I'm not saying you "overbuilt." I know there's a range of variation in the "productivity" of geysers/volcanos/vents (Like you, I wish they'd choose a name and stick with it). I love that you put relatively simple builds for those of us who have never done this before. The other videos I've seen have made the process much more intimidating.
Instead of using the polluted water one to make water, you could use it to sit in a pool to create polluted oxygen, then use filters to turn it into oxygen. Essentially with a polluted water geyser you can choose to make water or oxygen from it depending on the colony's need at that time.
this video is so underrated. you spent so much time making video and it only got 1k likes and 100k views. it deserves at least 5 million views. keep up the great content! love your videos! :)
Looking for a particular geyser. Didn't come here at first because of length, til I got a skill up in Reading Comprehension. Thank you for the effort in assembling this video.
automation is the secret to taming vents/geysers and volcanoes, good guide dude, also just dropping the oil 2 or more tiles down a granite not insulated box will chill the tiny amounts of hot oil from the leaky oil fissure to like 100 degrees, more after steam turbine tamer.
I actually really liked it being a long video, it's entertaining, and even if I get bored (which I doubt) I can use the stamps to click to a certain part of the video instead of just watching another video, nice!
It is disappointing how few subs you presently have. Your videos are entertaining, interesting, and helpful! Have you considered streaming? I think you could garner quite a large following if you got you name out there.
I've considered it a few times. I think ONI doesn't do super well with streaming, and I already need to find time to squeeze in working on ONI content as is. I appreciate the kind words though, thank you!
Well timed! and I personally always wait for your guide on ONI because it's so informative and neat with all the time tags, definitely will come back here often :)
Great vid, thanks. I've got about 300 hours in ONI across several runs, yet I never seem to learn anything new on my own. I've been so obsessed with keeping heat production to a minimum that it kinda inhibits me experimenting. I didn't know what to do with vents and geysers because they are always so hot, so I ended up blocking them off and ignoring them Truly amazing game though. As a software engineer I'm pretty amazed at how complex the game is, whilst still performing really well
Thank you so much for all your videos. Much appreciated. Your walk through has encouraged me to return and relearn and pump that completion % up. I always kinda get hung up around cycle 100-150. Gysers and vents and steel and what to do after i get to that point i either run out of water cause i forgot or just get worried about exploring out more and restart. Not this time. Lol. Gotta push through and beat the base game so i can move on and enjoy the dlcs finally
Hey magnet, this is a really cool video, so thank you for the tips! I know you just filled the liquid lock of the oil well with water for demonstration purpose. However if it gets too hot the water will just flash to steam so better to have a crude oil or petroleum lock just in case :)
A little late to the party, but I just want to mention an improvement to your cool steam vent setup. Instead of having a pump circulate the polluted water, I use a liquid reservoir in my setup. Use that to circulate the water and then add a second coil of radiant pipes in the pool of polluted water. It will save you the 120w of having to operate a pump.
Even later, but i have to agree with you here. It's a rookie mistake to use a pump for a loop. One of the golden rules in ONI is: Only pump once. Once a liquid or gas is in a pipe it moves for free. If you want to store it use tanks. The only reason to release a liquid or a gas is to use infinite storages for space efficiency reasons. In any other case a storage tank is better since it "pressurizes" your pipes for free.
I'm watching a lot of this tutorials in a row and is funny couse i have in mind play the ice map so in the back of my mind i'm like "Ah yes, cooling the machines, maybe not a problem, maybe i should use this heat to not die" xD nice tutorials dude
you can put 2 hydro sensors in your water supply for the water geyser, so that when it is too full it will empty a bit of the supply into the liquid storage, and when it is too empty it will empty some from liquid storage
Thanks alot for being detailed on all the vents. Also thanks for showing all the temperature scales available in the game so one can discern on what is hot and what is cold based on their own prefered unit.
As I expanded my base one time, I found a bit of neutronium with some rock on top. I didn't think much of it, surrounded it in airlocks, and uncovered it. Well, it was a gold volcano. The heat nearly ruined my whole base as I rushed to make ceramic and plug it up with tiles made of the stuff. Several duplicants also almost died because of the 10 kilograms of gold per second coming out at 2700C. That's what finally forced me to make a medical facility.
This may be months late now, but temp shift plates basically act as a multiplier that causes all surrounding tiles to share heat with each other. This can absolutely wreck a tiles ability to insulate. If you do some quick testing with magma, you'll see what I mean. Always leave space around a temp shift plate unless you intend to share temperature with it. Also temp shift plates are really bad at sharing temperature with each other (in a vacuum). Again, it basically acts as a multiplier of heat sharing between tiles(air, liquid, solid) but not so much itself.
A polluted water geyser was near my main base so I converted it into a small infinite storage and set my Dupes living quarters next to it. It's constantly spewing 30C water into an ever growing thermal mass so it's essentially an infinitely large heat sink to regulate the temperature nearby. So far its worked like a charm since the dupes nor the cooking stations have caused any visible change in the heating.
I ran into a natural gas geyser early in my current colony and a gold amalgam gas pump can hold in there for a while, I didn't realize it was under the temperature limit until I ran a single pump for a pair of geysers right next to each other later on and that one broke pretty quickly. The original single geyser pump did eventually break too, but right now both are running with radiant water cooling pipes clustered around the pump intake and it seems to work without waiting for steel.
Because of the surrounding tiles, the natural gas won't break the gold amalgam pumps immediately, but you can get pretty quick steel by deconstructing a couple of things in the abandoned building in the space biome. Ultimately I want these to not need any maintenance if I can help it, but if it works for you, then that's plenty!
One thing I did with a carbon geyser was to put a carbon skimmer in it. I used a loop to convert it into polluted dirt to feed to pokeshells. It wasn't a lot but it was free material and you can switch it on and off if you want to get some extra polluted dirt when you need it.
as you were describing the neutronium platforms and the priority trick i saw two in my own world and found a carbon dioxide geyser and a cool slush geyser so thanks already
Between you and Francis John, i havent seen anyone else on YT who goes as indepth and serves up rather tasty tutorials.. if it wasnt for you both.. id still be on coal gennies, eating liceloaf, with 1kw cables coming out my dupes ears all whilst cooking themselves in the extreme heat from all the open untamed vents lol so thank you, you both have made my gameplays extremely enjoyable.. BTW you deserve way more than 10.5k subs, just saying. keep it up and thanks again Maggie👍
I've learned so much! I only just got back into playing this game since playing the beta before release! I didn't understand the game at all so my base always fell apart by cycle 20. I could easily get past cycle 100 if I don't restart. I learn more each time and want to implement my strategies more effectively.
CO Vent is the best place to set up molten larva terrarium with help of hyper insulation tiles. Cold CO2 geyser is useful for free direct cooling everything along the path you transport it to space.
The reason for the temp shift plates not being directly next to insulated tiles is that it interacts and heat up or cool down the insulation tiles(can wast heat or energy) also the heated tiles can heat up the serounding(interacts with serounding gas over a few cycles bout 50-100) so double insulate or save materials by not putting next to insulated tile. Also checker board layout for temp plates spreads heat beter. Comented on the best building materials totorial.
Exactly the video I was looking for. I just want to understand how the concept of taming them works, so I can come up with my own custom version. Not the HYPER optimized ones I'm seeing everywhere haha
Hi. After I complete Space Out DLC and base game. I actually find out Volcano and Co2 Vent actually more useful than it thought. One of critical building for Volcano is Petroleum Boiler, which is advanced build only for late game and it's more useful than oil refinery in both efficient and simple power generation. Petroleum Boiler will covert 100% Cruel Oil -> 100% Petroleum and some additional Igneous rock from cold Magma rather than 100% Cruel Oil -> 50% Petroleum + 50% Natural Gas. That is critical especially you will use more Petroleum in Space Out DLC. Petroleum can be use for generate power and more exceed water, which will create more power than it own. CO2 Vent at 500°C is very good for Molten Slickter because they will eat CO2 and covert it into Petroleum instantly so you don't have to boil it again from Cruel Oil when use normal Slickter.
i'm sure someone else has said this , but I didn't see it . Tempshift plates force their temp into surrounding tiles . therefore , don't install them nest to insulated walls .
Carbon dioxide geysers are good for feeding slicksters. You just have to keep the slickster's environment warm enough. I use a thermoaquatuner steam room with metal tiles next to my slickster farm to keep them warm. I would have built the slickster warming room even without cold geyser CO2, because I try to get the temp up to 140C to get them to hatch molten slickster eggs.
I place my slickster farm all the way at the bottom of the map, I use the lava to control the heat of my slickster room. (Having a vacuum room with airlocks between the magme and the slicksters allows you to control when you want heat transfer to happen). I consider myself unluck, as I was unable to find any CO2 geyser around my map
This is a good point, and something I hadn't considered since I've gotten really used to not ranching Slicksters. Oil production from a well is usually less of an investment (from a duplicant time standpoint), and I tend to not need a lot of oil to run a colony to begin with, but I should have mentioned this. Great points.
Loved your video watched the whole thing. This'll definitely help me optimize my vents that I got lying around. Also this might not be the best usage but I very much like using infectious polluted oxygen vents to get oxygen just using a deodorizer chlorine setup. Then later use the same one to just absorb both forms of oxygen in the world
Great video! I've never known the best ways to capture some of these, mainly the ore volcanoes, and this really helped! I have an idea for a tutorial video, one about space! (Shovevoles, asteroid protection, solar energy, rocket travel, etc). That stage of the game is one I am not very familiar with, and would greatly appreciate some help.
Indeed! I'll be doing this in another video of mine, but only because I'm forcing myself to produce lettuce. Otherwise lettuce is a quite impractical food option, haha.
I gave up on complicity of farming puffs. You need secondary range with Prince, then move puffs around manually. Too much headache. If I have no choice but need lettuce, I would just plant wild plants. Fortunately there are so many better alternatives.
I'm very new to this game (installed it a couple of days ago). From my understanding chlorine is a germ killing gas. So technically you can convert infected water (polluted or otherwise) into a germ free one. So combining an infected water geyser with a chlorine gas vent seems to be a very nice way to produced drinkable water.
Chlorine does kill germs very well yes, but i don't think it's possible to actually make chlorine come in contact with polluted water. All types of water make that tile into a vacuum, meaning that no gasses can enter that same tile where that water is, which basically means the chlorine cannot come in contact with the polluted water to kill the germs.
I actually did this but with the infected polluted oxygen vent and send it to my puft ranch. It's not fun breathing slimelung while the dupes work on critters.
i wouldn't consider the co2 vents, polluted oxygen vents, and the chlorine vents useless. 1. the co2 vents can be used to fill a large room for growing mushrooms, for feeding slicksters, for conversion of water to polluted water for polluted dirt, or for irrigation of a peppernuts and reed fiber. all additional co2 could be pumped into the room later on once a proper petroleum boiler is established. 2. in some cases getting oxygen can be a little sketchy as some levels have limited access to oxygen producing resources, geysers being fewer and distant, and algae being limited. also, the polluted oxygen can be used for clay farming for ceramic. 3. chlorine is useful for production of salt, provided that the dasha saltvines use the farm station. the vent can also be used to inflate a large drecko ranching system with balm lily as their food source. this would give large insulation production, fertilizer production, more bbq from the starvation/ shearing station, food for wheezeworts for cooling, and food for peppernuts. alternatively, the chlorine vent can be used to make bleach stone for lettuce production.
You know, this video was 2 years ago, and someone has probably already answered your question, but I'm going to answer it as well anyways. Tempshift plates placed right next to a tile will directly share their heat/cool with that tile, so your insulated tiles become not-so-insulated if you do that.
For insulated tiles the order from best to worst is 1) Insulation (space material and a perfect insulator) 2) Ceramic (Almost twice a good as mafic) 3) Mafic (twice as good as the next group) 4) Fossil, Igneous, Obsidian, Sedimentary (All these have the same TC) 5) Sandstone 6) Granite (The only advantage to using granite is the decor bonus.) Your suggestion of igneous is good until you can get mafic or start making a lot of ceramic. Ceramic is tough to make on some maps. You probably wouldn't waste fossil this way. Early game, a perfect insulator is a vacuum. It can be made with diagonal tile deletion during a build which is faster than trying to vacuum out the air with a pump. Temperature does not transfer diagonally (except for when there is a temp shift plate involved) so corner tiles are not necessary. Saves material and build time. Hope that helps!
Thanks Doug! I did a small test a few videos ago to try to discover which one performed the best, but I think there were some oddities with that test (simulated on super speed, and only tested a few very specific scenarios). I think I'm gonna need to re-try some of those tests with more practical setups, and not let it simulate on super speed so I get more accurate results.
@@Magnet_MD I watched that video. More careful testing will help. For protecting your core base from mild heat almost any insulated tile will work, . It is when you get to extremes where you have magma on one side and liquid hydrogen on the other side where the material choice is crucial. I think for the test in your video you were interpreting igneous as better than some of the others because its specific heat capacity is 5 times greater than say obsidian. So it takes 5 times longer to change temperature and it absorbs 5 times as much of the heat from your heat source. Over the long term igneous and obsidian should transfer the same amount. Of course you cant use igneous with magma. It eventually melts as do many of those materials.
I am sure you have been told in the months since this video came out that the reason you don’t need to put the tempshift plates next to the insulated tiles is because of the way they work. Indeed, you do not need to fill every space with a tempshift plate. A 1x1 tempshift plate equalizes the temp in a 3x3 square. So the most cost efficient method of using them is in a checker board pattern. That will save a lot of material and is fairly intuitive for a new player to understand. Basically, every tile surrounding the tempshift plate is treated as the tempshift plate for the purposes of temp distribution. The only reason to fill every tile is for aesthetics.
tempshift plates, inject the heat directly into other tiles, which heats up the insolated tiles much fast than they should. Even Neutronium can be heated up in a couple of cycles with a good tempshift plate.
Note for anyone who sees this: Carbon dioxide vents/geysers have another use, albeit a not very good one like it's other uses (other than rockets) you could theoretically use it to make polluted water from regular water with CO2 skimmers however I'm not sure why you would need this when you have cool slush vents and stuff. It does work if you need more polluted water and you don't have enough from geysers for some reason. But like for the rest of the reasons, it's not practical. Just use it for rockets.
Shift plate transfers heat 1 tile around it. If you put the shift plate to the edge it transfers heat to the wall heating it up. So you leave a 1 tile space around a shift plate. It transfers heat 360 degrees around it and not into a wall so to speak.
Thank you for the guide, but I found the magma volcano setup in my games to be too inefficient. The main issue with this is the magma mechanics; after the first eruption turns water into steam, all the magma produced later will simply turn into a small blob, which has a pathetic heat transfer. So the temperature of steam will increase very slowly, resulting in almost non-existent power generation. I've seen many guides for volcano taming and there are basically 2 ways: either split the magma into many blobs to increase the temperature exchange (which requires complicated setups), or simply store magma in it's own storage room for later use.
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that before actually. The unfortunate thing with a lot of other guides I've seen is they are working with materials that are totally impractical for newer players, and trying to mimic them gets people stuck making mistakes and wasting time/resources trying to get it to work. I suppose an idea that might not be too bad is letting the magma spread over a bunch of steel tiles, then using mechanized airlocks to make contact with them whenever you're allowed to cool it and get energy/heat exchange from it. Even that is pretty expensive and pretty advanced for a newer player, so I dunno, I'm conflicted.
Yeah my thoughts are similar, prefer to use magma for petroleum generator and thats it, dont use it for power and I only build the magma petroleum generator if I really really need to as it also seems more work than its worth. Fun the first but rather just stay with the other setups to the first 1000 cycles then start over
An early game tip to handle geysers you need (especially watery ones) is to pair hot ones with cold ones to make both more usable (probably do that until you get steam turbines)
I can't believe how complex this game is :O I've had it for a long time but never really got too far... I just got back to the game again, and really appreciate your guides. This game is crazy deep!
It is! Welcome back
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@@Magnet_MD Yeah, I gave up on this game way back in 2017 after dying for the 20th time at like cycle 50 or so (I kept accepting way too many duplicants and running out of water lol). Unfortunately, back then the game was young and there weren't too many "how to" videos floating around out there. Just got back into it though, thanks to your more recent "full playthrough" videos... and man did you change my opinion about this game. Now I'm just plowing through the years worth of content you've produced, absorbing it all and loving every minute of it lol. Anyways, I just wanted to leave a comment to say thanks, your videos are very well presented and easy to follow... and they're a literal "game changer" lol, glad I found your channel.
Lol this was my experience to, I played it when it first came out, then quit and recently had new videos recommended to me.
I love how many aspects of Chemical Engineering are in this game! I am in my 3rd year of studying Chemical Engineering at uni and it's so great to see parallels between the ideas utilised in industry and in this game!
Tempshift plates share heat with all adjacent tiles. If you put them on the edge, they heat up the insulated tiles which can heat up the environment.
Love that you're using the youtube time stamps on the videos now! helps a lot :)
I was putting them on my older videos, but I got into a blitz of making tutorials for a little while and didn't have time to update it.
Helpful, but a very poorly structured tutorial...too much of it was not planned or thought out in advance, too much on the fly, too many corrections...too haphazard
@@SFCgunny how about you just leave
Constructive pettiness
@@SFCgunny as a new player, TRUST ME, this is a tutorial. He spoke from experience, clearly trial and error, not from crushing numbers in sandbox mode and then tell a new player like myself add 5 of this thing but don't explain why.
I personally have seen few with time stamps and even though I've seen this video repeatedly, as soon as I see a Geyser, guess where I run to?
I know he doesn't seem organized or well thought out, but it's ONI, in my last 148 failing hours the lesson that sticks the most is "learn to adapt"
One **extremely** important point that should be mentioned at the very beginning: all vents, geysers and volcanoes erupt from exact same spot, second tile to the left and one up. So if you don't dig it - nothing will erupt.
The thing about tempshift plates you said at the end - Insulated tiles exchange next to zero heat with liquids/solids and a teeny tiny bit of heat with gases. UNLESS! you put a tempshift plate next to them. Those will gladly inject all the heat to anything they touch. So, don't build tempshifts next to walls, unless you want to get better temp injection into walls (there are setups that do that. In fact, all your "metal room cooling" could use tempshift plates.)
Consider diamond glass tiles instead of metal for better thermal conduction.
Another thing to note is that while the geysers won't erupt if that specific spot has a tile, you won't be able to analyze it either until it is dug out.
Also if you accidentally expose a Volcano, put a Coal Temperature Shiftplate in that spot, then the next time the volcano will erupt, the plate will turn in a solid tile of refined carbon, thus blocking the volcano.
Note that it will only work with volcanoes because the volcanoes are the only things who's output is hot enough to make the trick work.
This is a great idea! Thanks for the info. I'm guessing at some point I will break this up into smaller videos and include DLC objects as well, so I'll be sure to include that next time.
I guess if you *have* diamond. But for 90% of ONI players: "Where the f*** do you get diamond?" XD
@@KittenyKat Oil biomes, Buried Oil has them at the bottom of the map, Irregular Oil has them all over the place
If you get a particularly large one you should be able to salvage a few tons
@@KittenyKat anyone that's in mid game will come across it.
Hey Magnet! I have over 400 hours in ONI and have JUST tamed my first volcano ever with the help of your video and it feels great!! Thank you for all your wonderful guides.
I am right under 100 hours playtime, in my second world (first was disaster), 5 dupes, over 200 cycles, still not having plastic or cooling system xD So much fun!
The easiest way to find vents on your map is to search by temperature. The neutronium shows up as absolute zero and sticks out among everything else.
Another good method is to search for priority, and find priorities hidden behind tiles
did you say "among"
It helps that buried vents will usually be buried by cool rock so it really does stick out
I've always searched by mineral, they all have a very distinctive huge black blob shape on top of them (at least on the beginner asteroid). Much more obvious for me.
I’m a newbie, and just bought the game. Every thing not explored is covered in black, so how do find the geysers in that case?
This guy talks for 2 straight hours in an awesome tutorial and doesn't even ask for a like or a sub, like all other CC's.
You have my like and sub!
I've owned this game for 7 years, ever since it came out pretty much.
I've still not progressed to the point of producing a single drop of oil. That's how complex this seemingly cute fun game is. And I'm someone who's 100% completed Factorio (including the speedrun achievements) and almost mastered Dwarf Fortress - this game is more complex.
I was just getting into using the geysers around my map in my first real playthrough， perfect timing
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Easiest way and no danger way to analyse vents/geysers/ect is to leave 2nd tile from left and bottom then flood it with water 2 tiles deep and then dig last tile and analyse it.
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I've been playing every now and then but never got to tame a metal volcano, and older guides felt outdated, so you've done me great service with this video, thank you
I was like "yeah as if I will ever watch this two-hour tutorial", and two hours later he we are! :D
Started the game just this week and I am so overwhelmed by how complex it can be! Thanks for your very simple and entertaining way to explain everything!
Thanks for this! I really appreciate your "first the basics" approach. For myself, I prefer crawl-walk-run learning so I really understand what I'm trying to do, how and why. Fancy can come later. 👍
Yeah and some of the fancy I have been building was far more work than it was worth, that metal volcano tamer was super simple and easy
Belatedly, hot CO₂ vents are great places to build Molten Slickster ranches - the vent keeps it nice and hot (which is good because it ensures you get Molten Larva Eggs rather than regular ones) and you can pump in the CO₂ produced in the rest of your base, which the Molten Slicksters will convert to Petroleum, which you can burn for power and _more_ CO₂ (or you can do ridiculous things like feeding it to a sour-gas boiler/chiller, to get _still more_ power off the natgas that results, the downside in vanilla being that you produce sulphur as a byproduct).
You can do something similar with regular slicksters producing Crude Oil, but you'll get better energy-efficiency if you use moltens (even if you convert the crude to petroleum, you'll not end up with as much of it as if you'd used molten slicksters in the first place).
Sulfur's a nice byproduct. Helps make renewable Grubfruit farms for easy Grubfruit Preserve.
@@overdramaticpan Hence "the downside _in vanilla_ being…". In _Spaced Out!_ it is, indeed, a nice byproduct. In vanilla, however, it's just a nuisance and is best handled by melting it and venting it to space.
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This is AMAZINGLY well timed, I was getting frustrated trying to find videos on the internet for how to tame a Steam Vent. Great guide as usual.
Woohoo! Glad it came in handy :)
"Lets fill this up with vacuum first" :D
Thank you for the comprehensive look at all the various things the game can give us. I appreciate the early game vibes, because most tutorials seem to be set up very late game as far as I have seen. Subbed!
1:36:10 about building tempshift plates near walls- it wasn't me :3 , but the thing is that they wil "pump" heat into the walls, afterward heating up the insulated tiles, unnecessary leaking heat. And they will do it in faster rate than normal contact of the walls with hot or cold material inside
Thanks for the info! I'll be sure to avoid this in the future :)
yes the temp shift plates share the heat with the surrounding tiles in a square share (8 sqaures around the temp shift plate) so when you add it to the very end, you are basically defeating the purpose of the insulated tile by making it take more heat and then it will share that heat with the gas at the other side (so not really good insulation). You can solve this by either not adding temp shift plates to the very end or double insulate ur walls.
A more efficient approach is to put your heat tiles in a chess like formation, saving some time in the build and some resources needed for the temp shift plates (specially if you are using diamond for the temp shift plates)
@@AmrXcellent I can confirm this. If I need something with tempshift plates, I make sure, it's at least 3x3 tiles tall, so I can place a plate inside without tempshifting into the wall.
And some Time in the future I want to try if you can heat/cool natural abyssalite tiles this way and what will happen with neutronium tiles.
I appreciate how approachable this guide is. I love the hell out of this game but am hardly at hyper-optimized levels myself, though I like to think I've gotten a lot better. My second run ever I naively uncovered a volcano (I didn't know any better at the time!) and it completely wrecked my playthrough spitting lava everywhere and no longer really able to be contained because no dupe could go anywhere near it even in a suit. I've figured out what to do with most of the more approachable geysers since then, but had still been afraid to try and harness a volcano, and in general ONI is fun as hell but very opaque to non-pro players, so approachable guides like this are much appreciated! Maybe this run we'll finally tame the magma-spewing deathtraps.
This video was awesome, while I have been doing some more complicated builds this shows you really dont need to. Would have been a great tip to add an air lock and digging areas into a vacuum rather than always building a big set up and needing to create a vacuum, plus with the air lock you always have access later to fix the mistakes a lot of new players make. So much awesome info and learned some better ways to tame volcanos so thanks again for your awesome tutorial!!!
Definitely true, I will make sure to mention this when I make more of these kinds of videos.
How many years later and i still come back to your complete guide for these things and check it out, thank you for taking the time to make something actually useful.
finally someone teaching without making the most compact efficient setups for everything, thank you!
best in-depth oxygen not included guide here on youtube. really appreciate it mate.
unless you actually want to make a whole bunch of mistakes that would make you feel silly after a couple cycles and learn from them instead of straight from the source material, try Francis John and Brothgar.
seriously, an open-cycle cooling loop? just why? and no, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Great advice my man! I know this is 3 years old, but if anyone is having trouble building things in a straight line (such as at 1:11:25) you can hold shift down to only build straight up, down, left and right. You won't build everywhere the curser touches if you don't move directly straight.
Thanks to this video, I finally had the confidence to capture a volcano. It was a minor volcano, and I mean *MINOR*. I built according to what you saw, and it produced so little steam it barely got one steam turbine (out of the four) to run for about 20 seconds. My first volcano was a huge disappointment. LOL
To be clear, I'm not saying you "overbuilt." I know there's a range of variation in the "productivity" of geysers/volcanos/vents (Like you, I wish they'd choose a name and stick with it). I love that you put relatively simple builds for those of us who have never done this before. The other videos I've seen have made the process much more intimidating.
Glad it went well! There are definitely ways to improve on what I've shown, so as long as you get comfortable with it first, that seems good to me!
Instead of using the polluted water one to make water, you could use it to sit in a pool to create polluted oxygen, then use filters to turn it into oxygen. Essentially with a polluted water geyser you can choose to make water or oxygen from it depending on the colony's need at that time.
With the quality of your videos and excellent comentary it amazes me that only 4k people are following. Keep up the good work sir magnet :)
It's a new channel, that's okay :)
this video is so underrated. you spent so much time making video and it only got 1k likes and 100k views. it deserves at least 5 million views. keep up the great content! love your videos! :)
Looking for a particular geyser. Didn't come here at first because of length, til I got a skill up in Reading Comprehension. Thank you for the effort in assembling this video.
automation is the secret to taming vents/geysers and volcanoes, good guide dude, also just dropping the oil 2 or more tiles down a granite not insulated box will chill the tiny amounts of hot oil from the leaky oil fissure to like 100 degrees, more after steam turbine tamer.
Thanks, and yes it most definitely is! It's generally the secret to saving power, but it comes in handy in a lot of more simple setups like this.
I actually really liked it being a long video, it's entertaining, and even if I get bored (which I doubt) I can use the stamps to click to a certain part of the video instead of just watching another video, nice!
Vent = Gas
Geyser = Liquid
Volcano = Solid(ish)
Volcano = HOTHOTHOT
Volcano = molten
Volcano = best place my duplicants can stay during their brake ( 2 dead)
@@badchest3324 it feels like thats what happened
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Great video! You make the best ONI videos on the internet in my opinion.
I was looking for a video of this very topic and in my heart already knew who would have it already created and ready for me.
It is disappointing how few subs you presently have. Your videos are entertaining, interesting, and helpful! Have you considered streaming? I think you could garner quite a large following if you got you name out there.
I've considered it a few times. I think ONI doesn't do super well with streaming, and I already need to find time to squeeze in working on ONI content as is. I appreciate the kind words though, thank you!
Well timed! and I personally always wait for your guide on ONI because it's so informative and neat with all the time tags, definitely will come back here often :)
Cool, see you back here soon then! :D
2:00 sandbox mode?!!
I never knew that existed!
Thx for making this video :)
Great vid, thanks. I've got about 300 hours in ONI across several runs, yet I never seem to learn anything new on my own.
I've been so obsessed with keeping heat production to a minimum that it kinda inhibits me experimenting. I didn't know what to do with vents and geysers because they are always so hot, so I ended up blocking them off and ignoring them
Truly amazing game though. As a software engineer I'm pretty amazed at how complex the game is, whilst still performing really well
such a great video for beginners , i ve came back here to see which geysers i need multiple times
Thank you so much for all your videos. Much appreciated. Your walk through has encouraged me to return and relearn and pump that completion % up. I always kinda get hung up around cycle 100-150. Gysers and vents and steel and what to do after i get to that point i either run out of water cause i forgot or just get worried about exploring out more and restart. Not this time. Lol. Gotta push through and beat the base game so i can move on and enjoy the dlcs finally
Haha I can’t believe you dumped a dup in scalding hot gas. Sandbox mode turns players into monsters. Thank you for video!
Hey magnet, this is a really cool video, so thank you for the tips! I know you just filled the liquid lock of the oil well with water for demonstration purpose. However if it gets too hot the water will just flash to steam so better to have a crude oil or petroleum lock just in case :)
I'm subscribing based off the fact alone that you time stamped these
Thank you for putting time stamps in the description!
That way to find them is extremely useful. I didnt know thaat i had so many vents "discovered". Thanks a lot. Keep it up.
A little late to the party, but I just want to mention an improvement to your cool steam vent setup. Instead of having a pump circulate the polluted water, I use a liquid reservoir in my setup. Use that to circulate the water and then add a second coil of radiant pipes in the pool of polluted water.
It will save you the 120w of having to operate a pump.
You can achieve the same with a liquid bridge
Even later, but i have to agree with you here. It's a rookie mistake to use a pump for a loop. One of the golden rules in ONI is: Only pump once. Once a liquid or gas is in a pipe it moves for free. If you want to store it use tanks. The only reason to release a liquid or a gas is to use infinite storages for space efficiency reasons. In any other case a storage tank is better since it "pressurizes" your pipes for free.
I'm watching a lot of this tutorials in a row and is funny couse i have in mind play the ice map so in the back of my mind i'm like "Ah yes, cooling the machines, maybe not a problem, maybe i should use this heat to not die" xD nice tutorials dude
you can put 2 hydro sensors in your water supply for the water geyser, so that when it is too full it will empty a bit of the supply into the liquid storage, and when it is too empty it will empty some from liquid storage
Thanks alot for being detailed on all the vents. Also thanks for showing all the temperature scales available in the game so one can discern on what is hot and what is cold based on their own prefered unit.
Thanks for the carbon dioxide vent capturing tutorial. 10/10!
You're Welcome; Glad it helped out!
Thankss u! I came back to ONI and the last time I was playing it was in 2017! Your videos are helping me a lot!
This is incredibly useful, keep up the amazing work. Thanks a bunch and stay safe
Thank you and you too!
got the game a few days ago and i am grateful that this channel exists, otherwise i would never reach the mid-game!
I just subbed. The long videos aren't a problem for me, I have them running in the bg while I play. Great stuff, now I can go to space. 😊
As I expanded my base one time, I found a bit of neutronium with some rock on top. I didn't think much of it, surrounded it in airlocks, and uncovered it.
Well, it was a gold volcano. The heat nearly ruined my whole base as I rushed to make ceramic and plug it up with tiles made of the stuff.
Several duplicants also almost died because of the 10 kilograms of gold per second coming out at 2700C. That's what finally forced me to make a medical facility.
King midas was sure pissed at you huh
Also, use the heat overlay. Neutronium is cold, and will appear easily on your map that way.
Ooooh, good tip! I never knew they'd show up that way, but that makes sense!
And you can also see what kind of vent/geyser is on that neutronium without digging it out ^^
Holy shit your brain is freaking enormous. This works!
Great Tutorial. Keep it up dude! :D
I've been watching your videos non-stop for a week now. Hope you come back to make more one day :)
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Huge mess simulator...sounds like a great game.
Maybe they'll make a DLC for this game and name it that?
@@Magnet_MD Magnet's Mega Mess DLC
This may be months late now, but temp shift plates basically act as a multiplier that causes all surrounding tiles to share heat with each other. This can absolutely wreck a tiles ability to insulate. If you do some quick testing with magma, you'll see what I mean. Always leave space around a temp shift plate unless you intend to share temperature with it. Also temp shift plates are really bad at sharing temperature with each other (in a vacuum). Again, it basically acts as a multiplier of heat sharing between tiles(air, liquid, solid) but not so much itself.
A polluted water geyser was near my main base so I converted it into a small infinite storage and set my Dupes living quarters next to it. It's constantly spewing 30C water into an ever growing thermal mass so it's essentially an infinitely large heat sink to regulate the temperature nearby. So far its worked like a charm since the dupes nor the cooking stations have caused any visible change in the heating.
I ran into a natural gas geyser early in my current colony and a gold amalgam gas pump can hold in there for a while, I didn't realize it was under the temperature limit until I ran a single pump for a pair of geysers right next to each other later on and that one broke pretty quickly. The original single geyser pump did eventually break too, but right now both are running with radiant water cooling pipes clustered around the pump intake and it seems to work without waiting for steel.
Because of the surrounding tiles, the natural gas won't break the gold amalgam pumps immediately, but you can get pretty quick steel by deconstructing a couple of things in the abandoned building in the space biome. Ultimately I want these to not need any maintenance if I can help it, but if it works for you, then that's plenty!
One thing I did with a carbon geyser was to put a carbon skimmer in it. I used a loop to convert it into polluted dirt to feed to pokeshells. It wasn't a lot but it was free material and you can switch it on and off if you want to get some extra polluted dirt when you need it.
as you were describing the neutronium platforms and the priority trick i saw two in my own world and found a carbon dioxide geyser and a cool slush geyser so thanks already
Between you and Francis John, i havent seen anyone else on YT who goes as indepth and serves up rather tasty tutorials.. if it wasnt for you both.. id still be on coal gennies, eating liceloaf, with 1kw cables coming out my dupes ears all whilst cooking themselves in the extreme heat from all the open untamed vents lol
so thank you, you both have made my gameplays extremely enjoyable..
BTW you deserve way more than 10.5k subs, just saying. keep it up and thanks again Maggie👍
I've learned so much! I only just got back into playing this game since playing the beta before release! I didn't understand the game at all so my base always fell apart by cycle 20. I could easily get past cycle 100 if I don't restart. I learn more each time and want to implement my strategies more effectively.
Nice! You're gonna make it all the way to the end :)
CO Vent is the best place to set up molten larva terrarium with help of hyper insulation tiles. Cold CO2 geyser is useful for free direct cooling everything along the path you transport it to space.
The reason for the temp shift plates not being directly next to insulated tiles is that it interacts and heat up or cool down the insulation tiles(can wast heat or energy) also the heated tiles can heat up the serounding(interacts with serounding gas over a few cycles bout 50-100) so double insulate or save materials by not putting next to insulated tile. Also checker board layout for temp plates spreads heat beter. Comented on the best building materials totorial.
was going to say the same
Thank you for the information! I'll start integrating this into my builds from now on :)
love the long and well explained approach
Chlorine vent is op bc u can grow dasha salt vine and if u crush salt into table salt it gives u extra sand and table sand like cgfungus said
Exactly the video I was looking for.
I just want to understand how the concept of taming them works, so I can come up with my own custom version. Not the HYPER optimized ones I'm seeing everywhere haha
Hi. After I complete Space Out DLC and base game. I actually find out Volcano and Co2 Vent actually more useful than it thought.
One of critical building for Volcano is Petroleum Boiler, which is advanced build only for late game and it's more useful than oil refinery in both efficient and simple power generation. Petroleum Boiler will covert 100% Cruel Oil -> 100% Petroleum and some additional Igneous rock from cold Magma rather than 100% Cruel Oil -> 50% Petroleum + 50% Natural Gas. That is critical especially you will use more Petroleum in Space Out DLC. Petroleum can be use for generate power and more exceed water, which will create more power than it own.
CO2 Vent at 500°C is very good for Molten Slickter because they will eat CO2 and covert it into Petroleum instantly so you don't have to boil it again from Cruel Oil when use normal Slickter.
There is a very simple reason for the naming scheme BTW: A geyser puts out liquid, a vent puts out gas. That's all there is to it.
i'm sure someone else has said this , but I didn't see it . Tempshift plates force their temp into surrounding tiles . therefore , don't install them nest to insulated walls .
Carbon dioxide geysers are good for feeding slicksters. You just have to keep the slickster's environment warm enough. I use a thermoaquatuner steam room with metal tiles next to my slickster farm to keep them warm. I would have built the slickster warming room even without cold geyser CO2, because I try to get the temp up to 140C to get them to hatch molten slickster eggs.
I place my slickster farm all the way at the bottom of the map, I use the lava to control the heat of my slickster room. (Having a vacuum room with airlocks between the magme and the slicksters allows you to control when you want heat transfer to happen).
I consider myself unluck, as I was unable to find any CO2 geyser around my map
This is a good point, and something I hadn't considered since I've gotten really used to not ranching Slicksters. Oil production from a well is usually less of an investment (from a duplicant time standpoint), and I tend to not need a lot of oil to run a colony to begin with, but I should have mentioned this. Great points.
Man, Your guides are god level
can you please make a video about Rockets and how to go to other planets ?
Loved your video watched the whole thing. This'll definitely help me optimize my vents that I got lying around.
Also this might not be the best usage but I very much like using infectious polluted oxygen vents to get oxygen just using a deodorizer chlorine setup. Then later use the same one to just absorb both forms of oxygen in the world
Great video! I've never known the best ways to capture some of these, mainly the ore volcanoes, and this really helped!
I have an idea for a tutorial video, one about space! (Shovevoles, asteroid protection, solar energy, rocket travel, etc). That stage of the game is one I am not very familiar with, and would greatly appreciate some help.
Will do! It's on the list!
just started playing this game, your tutorials are great, please keep it up!
I will, and thanks!
I love the time stamps so I can jump to what Im working on however, theres then a lot of assumed knowledge thats from earlier in the video :(
You can use the chlorine vent to feed squeaky pufts to produce bleach stone to feed a lettuce farm. Very tedious but if very doable.
Indeed! I'll be doing this in another video of mine, but only because I'm forcing myself to produce lettuce. Otherwise lettuce is a quite impractical food option, haha.
I gave up on complicity of farming puffs. You need secondary range with Prince, then move puffs around manually. Too much headache. If I have no choice but need lettuce, I would just plant wild plants. Fortunately there are so many better alternatives.
Love the "you cant break this" to it getting demolished in seconds lmao
I'm very new to this game (installed it a couple of days ago). From my understanding chlorine is a germ killing gas. So technically you can convert infected water (polluted or otherwise) into a germ free one.
So combining an infected water geyser with a chlorine gas vent seems to be a very nice way to produced drinkable water.
Chlorine does kill germs very well yes, but i don't think it's possible to actually make chlorine come in contact with polluted water. All types of water make that tile into a vacuum, meaning that no gasses can enter that same tile where that water is, which basically means the chlorine cannot come in contact with the polluted water to kill the germs.
@@dex1539 chlorine interacts with liquids if you put them in liquid storage containers and flood the room with chlorine.
I actually did this but with the infected polluted oxygen vent and send it to my puft ranch. It's not fun breathing slimelung while the dupes work on critters.
@@dex1539 Put it into liquid storage which is in a chlorine room
i know ffs i was wrong i get it stop telling me the same thing over and over
i wouldn't consider the co2 vents, polluted oxygen vents, and the chlorine vents useless.
1. the co2 vents can be used to fill a large room for growing mushrooms, for feeding slicksters, for conversion of water to polluted water for polluted dirt, or for irrigation of a peppernuts and reed fiber. all additional co2 could be pumped into the room later on once a proper petroleum boiler is established.
2. in some cases getting oxygen can be a little sketchy as some levels have limited access to oxygen producing resources, geysers being fewer and distant, and algae being limited. also, the polluted oxygen can be used for clay farming for ceramic.
3. chlorine is useful for production of salt, provided that the dasha saltvines use the farm station. the vent can also be used to inflate a large drecko ranching system with balm lily as their food source. this would give large insulation production, fertilizer production, more bbq from the starvation/ shearing station, food for wheezeworts for cooling, and food for peppernuts. alternatively, the chlorine vent can be used to make bleach stone for lettuce production.
You know, this video was 2 years ago, and someone has probably already answered your question, but I'm going to answer it as well anyways.
Tempshift plates placed right next to a tile will directly share their heat/cool with that tile, so your insulated tiles become not-so-insulated if you do that.
For insulated tiles the order from best to worst is
1) Insulation (space material and a perfect insulator)
2) Ceramic (Almost twice a good as mafic)
3) Mafic (twice as good as the next group)
4) Fossil, Igneous, Obsidian, Sedimentary (All these have the same TC)
5) Sandstone
6) Granite (The only advantage to using granite is the decor bonus.)
Your suggestion of igneous is good until you can get mafic or start making a lot of ceramic. Ceramic is tough to make on some maps. You probably wouldn't waste fossil this way. Early game, a perfect insulator is a vacuum. It can be made with diagonal tile deletion during a build which is faster than trying to vacuum out the air with a pump.
Temperature does not transfer diagonally (except for when there is a temp shift plate involved) so corner tiles are not necessary. Saves material and build time.
Hope that helps!
Thanks Doug! I did a small test a few videos ago to try to discover which one performed the best, but I think there were some oddities with that test (simulated on super speed, and only tested a few very specific scenarios). I think I'm gonna need to re-try some of those tests with more practical setups, and not let it simulate on super speed so I get more accurate results.
@@Magnet_MD I watched that video. More careful testing will help. For protecting your core base from mild heat almost any insulated tile will work, . It is when you get to extremes where you have magma on one side and liquid hydrogen on the other side where the material choice is crucial. I think for the test in your video you were interpreting igneous as better than some of the others because its specific heat capacity is 5 times greater than say obsidian. So it takes 5 times longer to change temperature and it absorbs 5 times as much of the heat from your heat source. Over the long term igneous and obsidian should transfer the same amount. Of course you cant use igneous with magma. It eventually melts as do many of those materials.
HOLY MOLY 1h 47m video. Im excited :D
Me too! ARGH! All in one take too :D
I am sure you have been told in the months since this video came out that the reason you don’t need to put the tempshift plates next to the insulated tiles is because of the way they work. Indeed, you do not need to fill every space with a tempshift plate. A 1x1 tempshift plate equalizes the temp in a 3x3 square. So the most cost efficient method of using them is in a checker board pattern. That will save a lot of material and is fairly intuitive for a new player to understand.
Basically, every tile surrounding the tempshift plate is treated as the tempshift plate for the purposes of temp distribution.
The only reason to fill every tile is for aesthetics.
Cool salt slush geyser is the best thing I've found in early game because it's spew out -5C brine which make life much easier heat management early.
tempshift plates, inject the heat directly into other tiles, which heats up the insolated tiles much fast than they should. Even Neutronium can be heated up in a couple of cycles with a good tempshift plate.
Maaan, you really amazing with your videos, thanks for your explanation, really appreciate that ! 🙌🏻
Note for anyone who sees this: Carbon dioxide vents/geysers have another use, albeit a not very good one like it's other uses (other than rockets) you could theoretically use it to make polluted water from regular water with CO2 skimmers however I'm not sure why you would need this when you have cool slush vents and stuff. It does work if you need more polluted water and you don't have enough from geysers for some reason. But like for the rest of the reasons, it's not practical. Just use it for rockets.
the goat for tutorials
Dang those volcano setups... And here I thought I was smart when I finally implemented mechanical filters into my electrolyzer setup
I remeber a base I had years ago that had 3 co2 vents in it. No, I didnt find a use for them,.
This was so friggin cool. Subscribed
Shift plate transfers heat 1 tile around it. If you put the shift plate to the edge it transfers heat to the wall heating it up. So you leave a 1 tile space around a shift plate. It transfers heat 360 degrees around it and not into a wall so to speak.
Thank you for the guide, but I found the magma volcano setup in my games to be too inefficient.
The main issue with this is the magma mechanics; after the first eruption turns water into steam, all the magma produced later will simply turn into a small blob, which has a pathetic heat transfer. So the temperature of steam will increase very slowly, resulting in almost non-existent power generation.
I've seen many guides for volcano taming and there are basically 2 ways: either split the magma into many blobs to increase the temperature exchange (which requires complicated setups), or simply store magma in it's own storage room for later use.
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that before actually. The unfortunate thing with a lot of other guides I've seen is they are working with materials that are totally impractical for newer players, and trying to mimic them gets people stuck making mistakes and wasting time/resources trying to get it to work. I suppose an idea that might not be too bad is letting the magma spread over a bunch of steel tiles, then using mechanized airlocks to make contact with them whenever you're allowed to cool it and get energy/heat exchange from it. Even that is pretty expensive and pretty advanced for a newer player, so I dunno, I'm conflicted.
Yeah my thoughts are similar, prefer to use magma for petroleum generator and thats it, dont use it for power and I only build the magma petroleum generator if I really really need to as it also seems more work than its worth. Fun the first but rather just stay with the other setups to the first 1000 cycles then start over
my bases are still messy as matter of course! thanks for this guide.
An early game tip to handle geysers you need (especially watery ones) is to pair hot ones with cold ones to make both more usable (probably do that until you get steam turbines)