Best review I have seen yet. My dealer said to use high octane, so I will research that. I also ordered the shorter wheel base and Torques front axle. I did not pay for graphics or anything that did not make it faster, more comfy, or better suited to me; so no carbon fiber trim and no sun roof. But everything else is there. The sound system has changed on my 2018, supposed to be better, it is better than my previous 2013 F150 Platinum -- the whole truck is WAY WAY better. Our trails and rough and narrow, the wideness is a bit of "take it slow" hindrance; but I do no mind battle scars. No big rattles like you had, yet. My average fuel mileage is 17 mixed -- interstate kills it above 65mph -- pushing lots of air.
Very good review! I'm a gen 2 Raptor owner for 6 months now. Watched this for entertainment value and to pick up a thing or to I missed. A good review of the driving modes for me since I rarely use more than normal or sport mode. It is very true for me that I drive on pavement most of the time. In the Seattle area one must drive far to find 4x4 trails. I find the handling of the truck to be superior on the road. Especially in sport mode where weight transfer in turns can be more more controlled than in normal mode. That's because the transmission is programed to stay engaged on throttle down for engine braking. So moderation of the gas peddle in turns is more precise. I am comparing this to my other 1997 F150 Lariat, which is quite a bit different. One of the more profound statements in the video is about auto stop/start. I think that's more of an emotional issue for each person because a lot of people either like it or hate it. Personally I like it. It works flawlessly for me. If the windows are rolled up because I have the air conditioner on or the heater on then I can't even hear it functioning. The only way I know the engine shutdown is by the green icon that appears on the instrument panel and the RPM and oil pressure dropping to zero. I can only hear the engine start when the window is open and there is a curb, wall, or vehicle next to me to reflect the sound back into the Raptor. Outside the Raptor it sound like a normal start sequence so those outside the Raptor will hear the auto stop/start much more than those inside. A far as the speed at which the engine re=starts goes, the instant one starts to release brake pressure the engine is running. The engine RPM is back up to speed so fast I can't even call it actual starting, although that's what it is. It seems more like "On" and "Off." There is no prolonged cranking of the starter and then waiting for that. By the time my foot is off the brake peddle the engine is fully operational and ready to go. There is no delay. I've even tried to see if I could induce delay by switching my foot from the brake to the gas as fast as I can and I cannot beat the engine starting sequence and force a delay. Given, my Raptor has no issues or malfunctions so it works as designed. Once it gets older we shall see if the start/stop function continues to perform as well. So far at 3K on the odometer it works perfectly. I think the auto stop/start function has gotten a lot of bad press and it's become more of an emotional issue than a practical issue. Once someone decides they don't like that function there's not going to be anything anyone can do to change their mind. Unless of course there is a system malfunction. Then that would be understandable. IMO Ford has come a long way with the auto stop/start function and has gotten it perfected. Now what Ford really needs to do is just make the auto stop/start function undetectable by the driver and most all animosity would disappear. Of course, in order to do that it would have to freeze the tachometer and oil pressure indicator, but that would by kind of dishonest. But maybe that what the auto stop/start "Disable" button really does... Hmmmm... Okay, not. Anyway, thanks for the review. Bart
bravomike09 another gen 2 owner chiming in: I agree completely. Great review, this is one of the better ones on this truck (and I've seen just about all of them)
Just a comment about stop/start since my 2015 F150, with 2.7 Ecoboost has it, it's NOT a big deal. You get used to it over time. And if it's not for you just push the big off button on the dash. At least made it easy to turn off....my wife and I recently test drove a BMW that required the driver to cycle through several display screens to turn it off.
Nice tour Sam! Excellent video great review, i ll take the Raptor from any other truck or even ..car even though the Ford quality doesn't impress me at all!
I prefer the previous Raptor with the 6.2 V8. The Ford dealers in my area are charging at least $10k above sticker for these trucks which are already too expensive IMO.
Great review Sam! I'm sure you can get those "Raptor" stickers on eBay, probably like under 50 bucks, lol. But they do look cool though! F-150 Raptor, and Tacoma TRD Off Road are my fav trucks! Top sellers for a reason.
It's a 10 year proven, intense off road vehicle. You're talking as if it's a description that people wouldn't know. A raptor, not a normal f series truck.
The Raptor made pretty easy work of Butcher Jones vs the video you did of the TRD Off road Taco, as an example, but I wonder how this Hi-po 3.5 will stand the test of time. Also, it's a great desert runner, for a road like the Peralta trail, but the crew cab would have a tough time in more cozy confines. It's great for what it is, and it is unique, but I can't justify the cost. I'm sure you had fun with it just the same.
Wow, at about 1:41 into the video you can see that the tires are almost touching the steering knuckle. If you deflated the tires a little bit for off roading they'd probably rub the knuckle.
I haven't driven the Raptor or F150, but in one article I've read the Raptor is very unstable in washboard roads. More importantly I was recently talking to forest rangers and they don't like the F150 either on washboard roads either. The F150 is the least favorite of the big 3 domestic pickups on dirt road rides. They also aren't enamoured with the aluminium use. Even aluminium ramps are wearing through the beds and short sticks bouncing up on the sides can crack the panels (personally saw that one.) It sounds to me like the back is just too light requiring shock valving that is so weak the rear axle looses contact with the ground over washboard roads. I just don't understand why the stability control wouldn't take care of that. Have you noticed this in your tests?
Ford ABSOLUTELY did the right thing, in regards to "raptor" graphics and obnoxious "F O R D" letters on tailgate. Most folks really don't want any of these huge brand stamps on their expensive trucks. Ram learned that lesson two years ago after receiving tons of negative responses regarding the "R A M" block letters, which replaced an understated, and familiar, ram's horn emblem. The look was NOT GOOD! Next gen ram trucks for 2019 have, supposedly, ditched the dorky oversized brand label for a more traditional ram's head emblem. we'll see....
I started to giggle when Sam was putting the truck into "go" mode! I may be..I say I maybe getting older...I fact I'm pretty sure dirts got nothing on me, but in "my" days a guy simply pushed in the clutch, flipped the 4X4 stick into 4 wheel drive and then hit the gas peddle! But today? I just laugh at just how convenience today's 4 wheel drive systems are...NOT!
Thanks for acknowledging the truck sounding terrible (on the outside) I really think the V6 sounds like a Toyota Camry I’m just wishing Ford would put a turbo 5 liter in the raptor but it’s obviously not happening
Nice to se the black harness boots are never going out of style! I had several pairs thru out the 1970s! Still a great looking boot! The truck? I'd rather have the new ZR2...
I don't know man. $1200 for stupid raptor stickers and $500 for a tailgate logo how can you give the value 4/5? I'm thinking 3 or even 2.5 especially since some wheel package was more $.
Here in California, typical greedy selfish money hungry Ford Dealers are charging 30k over MSRP. FOR you average Joe, is just out of their reach. I for example, never pay MSRP for any vehicle, unless is a high desire car and retains its value, but pay over? $50k is for the basic raptor, I have $15k for down payment and I can finance the rest. It would be high, but I can do it, but dealers are greedy people. Now, I would get a normal F150, but with the Raptor length, Supercab with 5 foot bed. The 6 foot would not fit in my garage. I just need a small bed plus I hate long trucks.
No. Far from it. I really don't intend to be mean-spirited, amigo. I'm a 5th generation Idahoan who knows that unless you are walkin' thru a cow pasture in your "Sunday pants", you don't tuck your jeans in your boots. I did like your review. Keep up the good work.
In the desert where Jumping Cholla along the ground will attach itself near permently to anything but the tall walls of leather boots, you tuck your pants in when in the wild or you will be taking some of it home with you or depositing it to the floor mats in your truck.
Flylo FM I bought my gen 2 Raptor a month ago and they have knocked it outta the park to use a old term. I am & die hard Chevy guy but the new Raptor has changed my outlook. I'll pass on every other Ford out there & I'd take a Silverado. All this from a guy that has a Linked Luxury Silverado prerunner as his daily before I bought my Raptor. For all our speed thru the desert the raptor can't touch my Silverado but that is about it, the Raptor excels above the Chevy in every other category. I scoffed at the idea of owning a Raptor laughed at em (Gen1 anyways) but not anymore. If you don't consider the Gen 2 in your looking for a truck your cheating yourself out of a truly great vehicle.
The most badass truck you can buy.
Best review I have seen yet. My dealer said to use high octane, so I will research that. I also ordered the shorter wheel base and Torques front axle. I did not pay for graphics or anything that did not make it faster, more comfy, or better suited to me; so no carbon fiber trim and no sun roof. But everything else is there. The sound system has changed on my 2018, supposed to be better, it is better than my previous 2013 F150 Platinum -- the whole truck is WAY WAY better. Our trails and rough and narrow, the wideness is a bit of "take it slow" hindrance; but I do no mind battle scars. No big rattles like you had, yet. My average fuel mileage is 17 mixed -- interstate kills it above 65mph -- pushing lots of air.
Very good review!
I'm a gen 2 Raptor owner for 6 months now. Watched this for entertainment value and to pick up a thing or to I missed. A good review of the driving modes for me since I rarely use more than normal or sport mode.
It is very true for me that I drive on pavement most of the time. In the Seattle area one must drive far to find 4x4 trails.
I find the handling of the truck to be superior on the road. Especially in sport mode where weight transfer in turns can be more more controlled than in normal mode. That's because the transmission is programed to stay engaged on throttle down for engine braking. So moderation of the gas peddle in turns is more precise. I am comparing this to my other 1997 F150 Lariat, which is quite a bit different.
One of the more profound statements in the video is about auto stop/start. I think that's more of an emotional issue for each person because a lot of people either like it or hate it. Personally I like it. It works flawlessly for me. If the windows are rolled up because I have the air conditioner on or the heater on then I can't even hear it functioning. The only way I know the engine shutdown is by the green icon that appears on the instrument panel and the RPM and oil pressure dropping to zero.
I can only hear the engine start when the window is open and there is a curb, wall, or vehicle next to me to reflect the sound back into the Raptor. Outside the Raptor it sound like a normal start sequence so those outside the Raptor will hear the auto stop/start much more than those inside.
A far as the speed at which the engine re=starts goes, the instant one starts to release brake pressure the engine is running. The engine RPM is back up to speed so fast I can't even call it actual starting, although that's what it is. It seems more like "On" and "Off." There is no prolonged cranking of the starter and then waiting for that. By the time my foot is off the brake peddle the engine is fully operational and ready to go. There is no delay. I've even tried to see if I could induce delay by switching my foot from the brake to the gas as fast as I can and I cannot beat the engine starting sequence and force a delay.
Given, my Raptor has no issues or malfunctions so it works as designed. Once it gets older we shall see if the start/stop function continues to perform as well. So far at 3K on the odometer it works perfectly.
I think the auto stop/start function has gotten a lot of bad press and it's become more of an emotional issue than a practical issue. Once someone decides they don't like that function there's not going to be anything anyone can do to change their mind. Unless of course there is a system malfunction. Then that would be understandable.
IMO Ford has come a long way with the auto stop/start function and has gotten it perfected. Now what Ford really needs to do is just make the auto stop/start function undetectable by the driver and most all animosity would disappear. Of course, in order to do that it would have to freeze the tachometer and oil pressure indicator, but that would by kind of dishonest. But maybe that what the auto stop/start "Disable" button really does... Hmmmm... Okay, not.
Anyway, thanks for the review.
Bart
bravomike09 another gen 2 owner chiming in: I agree completely.
Great review, this is one of the better ones on this truck (and I've seen just about all of them)
Just a comment about stop/start since my 2015 F150, with 2.7 Ecoboost has it, it's NOT a big deal. You get used to it over time. And if it's not for you just push the big off button on the dash.
At least made it easy to turn off....my wife and I recently test drove a BMW that required the driver to cycle through several display screens to turn it off.
Excellent unbiased review Sam! Love this channel
I love this area! I was just there in my ZR2 this last weekend and dented my front skid plate lol. Awesome review!
Awesome. Felt like I was there with ya. I'll keep my ram
Bloody awesome test Sam!
Great Review Sam...Butcher Jones is no joke for some quality off roading. Keep up the great reviews.
Nice tour Sam! Excellent video great review, i ll take the Raptor from any other truck or even ..car even though the Ford quality doesn't impress me at all!
I prefer the previous Raptor with the 6.2 V8. The Ford dealers in my area are charging at least $10k above sticker for these trucks which are already too expensive IMO.
METALITHrevetments in san diego they charge 25k sticker markup.
@@RideRedFred In the midwest it's $3000 off sticker.
Surprised you gave it many 4 out of 5 stars, I think this is the best truck around, despite some "quality issues" (its not a luxury vehicle).
Great review Sam! I'm sure you can get those "Raptor" stickers on eBay, probably like under 50 bucks, lol. But they do look cool though! F-150 Raptor, and Tacoma TRD Off Road are my fav trucks! Top sellers for a reason.
Good news is that the appliqué is standard for 2018
jabroni6199 I'm not a fan of the appliqué. I ordered a 2018 without it.
It's a 10 year proven, intense off road vehicle. You're talking as if it's a description that people wouldn't know. A raptor, not a normal f series truck.
Love the boots. 👍
YES! The cowboy hat made a comeback.
I noticed when u said 15 mpg average was that with regular unleaded? I thought the high output engine is premium unleaded only
Mike Hodgens you need premium!!
It's slow with just regular and the gas mileage is not as good.
The Raptor made pretty easy work of Butcher Jones vs the video you did of the TRD Off road Taco, as an example, but I wonder how this Hi-po 3.5 will stand the test of time. Also, it's a great desert runner, for a road like the Peralta trail, but the crew cab would have a tough time in more cozy confines. It's great for what it is, and it is unique, but I can't justify the cost. I'm sure you had fun with it just the same.
Wow, at about 1:41 into the video you can see that the tires are almost touching the steering knuckle. If you deflated the tires a little bit for off roading they'd probably rub the knuckle.
I haven't driven the Raptor or F150, but in one article I've read the Raptor is very unstable in washboard roads. More importantly I was recently talking to forest rangers and they don't like the F150 either on washboard roads either. The F150 is the least favorite of the big 3 domestic pickups on dirt road rides. They also aren't enamoured with the aluminium use. Even aluminium ramps are wearing through the beds and short sticks bouncing up on the sides can crack the panels (personally saw that one.) It sounds to me like the back is just too light requiring shock valving that is so weak the rear axle looses contact with the ground over washboard roads. I just don't understand why the stability control wouldn't take care of that. Have you noticed this in your tests?
They had tire pressure at max...about fifty pounds, as opposed to recommended of 38. Ford has gone down as low as 22 in the back for events
If they put a twin turbo 5.0 in the raptor the raptor would so much better in my opinion
What color is this truck ?
Excellent Review !!
One question for you. What are those?!?!?! Just kidding love the review as always.
"BIG THICK ONES" that's what he said Lol! Anyways cool video Sam keep em coming 😁
Ford ABSOLUTELY did the right thing, in regards to "raptor" graphics and obnoxious "F O R D" letters on tailgate. Most folks really don't want any of these huge brand stamps on their expensive trucks. Ram learned that lesson two years ago after receiving tons of negative responses regarding the "R A M" block letters, which replaced an understated, and familiar, ram's horn emblem. The look was NOT GOOD! Next gen ram trucks for 2019 have, supposedly, ditched the dorky oversized brand label for a more traditional ram's head emblem. we'll see....
I started to giggle when Sam was putting the truck into "go" mode! I may be..I say I maybe getting older...I fact I'm pretty sure dirts got nothing on me, but in "my" days a guy simply pushed in the clutch, flipped the 4X4 stick into 4 wheel drive and then hit the gas peddle! But today? I just laugh at just how convenience today's 4 wheel drive systems are...NOT!
Thanks for acknowledging the truck sounding terrible (on the outside)
I really think the V6 sounds like a Toyota Camry
I’m just wishing Ford would put a turbo 5 liter in the raptor but it’s obviously not happening
Thoss boots doe 😎
I'd get aZR2 with the Duramax turbo.
Where in AZ u guys doing these tests??
This one was done at Butcher Jones Recreation Area just NE of Phoenix
you didn't mention the gun case part lol "triggering"
Why are you testing the truck with no load that what we want to see uphill load thanks
Big!.......... thick ... ONES! :-)
Nice to se the black harness boots are never going out of style! I had several pairs thru out the 1970s! Still a great looking boot! The truck? I'd rather have the new ZR2...
Once you shift into N for rock crawl do you shift back into drive once in 4x4 low
?
Uhhhh,... YEAH! If you want to move.
You said chassis got 4 stars but showed 5 stars on-screen
Time to fire another graphics editor.
I don't know man. $1200 for stupid raptor stickers and $500 for a tailgate logo how can you give the value 4/5? I'm thinking 3 or even 2.5 especially since some wheel package was more $.
podrian poner los subtítulos en español xd
Why did they make that nice man display such a jaunty boot and jeans aesthetic?
"They" didn't make him dress any way other than how he does almost every day.
OH, OK.
I embrace diversity - more power to him.
Here in California, typical greedy selfish money hungry Ford Dealers are charging 30k over MSRP. FOR you average Joe, is just out of their reach. I for example, never pay MSRP for any vehicle, unless is a high desire car and retains its value, but pay over? $50k is for the basic raptor, I have $15k for down payment and I can finance the rest. It would be high, but I can do it, but dealers are greedy people. Now, I would get a normal F150, but with the Raptor length, Supercab with 5 foot bed. The 6 foot would not fit in my garage. I just need a small bed plus I hate long trucks.
Go grab one in PHX and save you the greedy over charge in CA
Great vid...But I'll keep my RAM!
Later...
You seem like a knowledgeable guy and you did a nice review, but don't tuck your jeans inside your boots. Ever.
Are you a fashion guru?
No. Far from it. I really don't intend to be mean-spirited, amigo. I'm a 5th generation Idahoan who knows that unless you are walkin' thru a cow pasture in your "Sunday pants", you don't tuck your jeans in your boots. I did like your review. Keep up the good work.
In the desert where Jumping Cholla along the ground will attach itself near permently to anything but the tall walls of leather boots, you tuck your pants in when in the wild or you will be taking some of it home with you or depositing it to the floor mats in your truck.
Ah! Learn somethin' new everyday! Thanks for the reply.
Ram Power Wagon
FURD..... Built Turd Tough!
I'll take a Silverado.
Flylo FM raptor better than silverado an offroad
Flylo FM I bought my gen 2 Raptor a month ago and they have knocked it outta the park to use a old term. I am & die hard Chevy guy but the new Raptor has changed my outlook. I'll pass on every other Ford out there & I'd take a Silverado. All this from a guy that has a Linked Luxury Silverado prerunner as his daily before I bought my Raptor. For all our speed thru the desert the raptor can't touch my Silverado but that is about it, the Raptor excels above the Chevy in every other category.
I scoffed at the idea of owning a Raptor laughed at em (Gen1 anyways) but not anymore. If you don't consider the Gen 2 in your looking for a truck your cheating yourself out of a truly great vehicle.
Mee too and dump 30k in suspension, tires,and motor upgrades.
If I was 75 years old I'd take a Silverado too lol
Only pussies who are afraid to drive real truck's drive the Craptor Egodouche.