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There are cars like that checkout maruti 800, also some tech are necessary ex: heated/cooled seats in cold/tropic regions, but stupid tech is definitly unnecessary
Why is it that small single cylinder engines never seem to exceed 650cc I know of the zabel 700cc two stroke and a few other examples but in a broad spectrum it seems there is a reason and may make a good subject on a video
I would have thought the entry models from Dacia would fill your spec pretty well. For commuting though, in the uk, 50kph would be more than enough for most city dwellers. Chances are they won't break 40 except on school holidays. As for small uncomplicated cars, I still miss my Smart Roadster. Had a few gadgets like heated seats and air con but not too complex. It was a hoot to drive too as I could feel like I was ragging the car around and not have to destroy the speed limit to do so.
I have been saying this for a long time. Even electric cars. No screens, just normal gauges. Solid construction, rust mitigation, durability, and designed for maintenance. Light, cheap, simple, and stays on the road for years. It'll never happen.
It's already on the market for ages. It's called commercial vehicle. Simple no frills or gimmick and built to last enduring tough use. Just buy one to daily commute 😂
@@ardijanuar2036 No, they are designed for heavy weights and dings. This means that they are heavy, and they are cheap to purchase *in bulk*. The efficiency for private customers is not that good.
Congratulations! I've been working on the automotive industry for 26years and repeated the same mantra since the beginning. Every machine has its purpose. There is a reason for building a small simple car, a different one for a station wagon, a pickup truck, a sports car, but there's no good reason for a crossover. It is a pleasure to hear that, thanks for the great video
Those cars exists. I ordered a Suzuki Swift. 950 kg. 1.2 aspirated angine. I also have an NB 1.8. The basic of driving, a rev happy engine, short gear transmission, tons of feedback from the steering wheel, rwd, 50/50. For me, perfection.
Well, as an automotive journalist I can say only one thing about this: that car exists, but it seems like everybody forgot about it. It's a Suzuki Swift in its last generation and basically has everything you're talking about. I know 994 kg is not 800, but it's really not that bad. It has new 1,2l DualJet engine (naturally aspirated, 3 pistons and hella lot of compression ratio and 40 percent thermal efficiency), really small and lightweight mild-hybrid drivetrain (some 0,036 kWh under the driver's seat) and basically you can run on the highwayish 130 km/h for around 4,6 l/100 km with 5spd manual (precise as hell, reminds me of the first skoda fabia). Not exceeding 115 km/h you can easily get to 3,8 or so. And it has all the bells and whistles and finally even also some sound insulation that Suzuki apparently hated so much last few years. Handles very well (indeed), doing proper moose test around the track, it was very close to fabulous last gen Honda Civic. Oil filter the same as Peugeot 106 and it's making 98-99 g CO2 in combined WLTP. Testing it last week, i was stunned. Finally something different! So if you can, get your hands on one and try it! You'll be smiling ear to ear... as I was. :D But that being said, it's a pity that Suzuki is apparently the only one doing this kind of stuff for the European market. And last but not least, i really really appreciate your work. A++ stuff, really!
And if you STILL want a crossover get an ignis 😂 Great little cars, I got one by accident and I love it. Get 50mpg mixed use and that’s with all weather tyres. Noisy? Yes, noisy. But I have a rack and carry a kayak on it, and my other vehicle is a van which is noisier 😂
Suzuki hasn't sold cars in Canada since 2014, and I suspect the USA market is much the same. That entire market segment is gone. I wish that weren't true, but it is.
@@NonyoBusiness-o7b I remember shopping for my first car. Had to be new for "safety" and "reliability" reasons. Had to be AWD for the 5 days we'd get snow. Was forced into buying Subaru because I'd rather drive nothing at all than an SUV/CUV. I genuinely don't understand how the average person is fine with a car that has bouncy suspension and incredibly numb steering. After seeing a bunch of idiots swerve around morning traffic in SUVs, I can't help but laugh at how silly they look bouncing and jiggling around. It looks idiotic and not even in a cool way. At this point for a daily, if my car goes, I'll probably never buy anything newer than pre-pandemic.
I'd say the main issue here - as usually - is not the car maker or the government but the market and what "it" (i.e. the average human being) wants. And the reason we are lightyears off some form of green, sustainable personal transport system is because the average person does not care for one, does not want one and most of the time does not even know all the issue their current car causes. As a matter of fact, considering that the vast majority of humans theses days live in cities, the vast majority probably does not need to own a car and could instead use car sharing.
my aunt still drives her civic hatch that she bought brand new in 89. 300k+ miles, 30+ mpg, great visibility, hauls groceries... pretty efficient use of metal and plastic if you ask me!
My father still daily drives his 87 accord hatchback that he bought new. 360+ miles and almost 40mpg, with a carburetor! Neither the motor nor the trans has been apart besides clutch and timing belt replacements
I feel good knowing that my car does not have a lithium battery, a large electric motor, or any of the high power electronics that make a hybrid work. I believe that this has to pay off in lower maintenance costs over time.
Currently own a 1994 EG civic and a Suzuki Swift Sport. They are both fantastic. Light, simple, reliable and cheap to own and operate. I highly recommend avoiding anything vehicle newer than 2010. I will likely never buy new again... My ultimate dream is to own a Mini Moke!😂
They are at the mercy of those in power in DC. We need to focus on removing that power from them. There is ZERO justification for any sort of auto regulation in the constitution that all of our elected officials swear an oath to uphold.
if the majority of car on the road were light weight, then the accidant damages would also drop since there are no more 2,5 ton cars hitting eachothers. so its just less mass and force being transferred.
I feel like people say this, but I for example, want more tech, and I would imagine most people are voting with their wallets, and the basic cars aren't selling (is my guess)
@@jebise1126 Well I guess that's the thing right? If they're only buying 2nd hand cars and not new cars, then the car makers have no incentive to make those cars. I personally also only buy 2nd hand haha, but I like my backup cameras and apple carplay
Such cars actually do exist, but only people with limited budget are buying them. Everyone talks how they would like such car, but in reality they don't buy those cars.
Christian von Koenigsegg is an absolute engineering genius. Not to mention a legendary perfectionist. Mainstream automakers need to be watching him and his team closely.
They'll never because they only exist to make a profit and exploit as much as possible.............CVK only exist to live his dream with no limits and imaginary achievements personified in reality. I don't think money has ever been his goal, if he builds it they will come.
I think the biggest and most important lesson to learn from Elon Musk, is that you shouldn't describe someone at the head of a company as a genius at anything. Sure, maybe Christian is an engineering genius. But what is far more likely is that he hires people who are really good at their job (engineering) and really good thinking outside of conventions. Maybe everything in the Koenigsegg TFG from idea, to design, to engineering prototypes, to final product was 100% done by Christian. Maybe he simply asked his engineers "we have this Freevalve system, how small could we make an engine if we want it to make 600 hp?" and his engineers did everything else. We don't know. But I, for one, don't want to see him go down the Elon Musk route of spewing absolute nonsense to his fanboys with no one willing to correct him on it. E.g. > Due to the nature of Cybertruck, which is made of bright metal with mostly straight edges, any dimensional variation shows up like a sore thumb. > All parts for this vehicle, whether internal or from suppliers, need to be designed and built to sub 10 micron accuracy. > That means all part dimensions need to be to the third decimal place in millimeters and tolerances need be specified in single digit microns. If LEGO and soda cans, which are very low cost, can do this, so can we. > Precision predicates perfectionism. > Elon electrek.co/2023/08/23/elon-musk-lego-cybertruck-quality-leaked-tesla-email/
@@MrMartinSchou I've met both Elon and Christian. One has always been a petulant twit, while the other, despite his family's heritage, is not. (Full disclosure: I'm related to Christian by marriage.) One of the big differences is humility. Christian is a brilliant engineer, and he's in this for the challenge of making rolling works of mechanical art. He always has been. He is not known to play politics, be self-aggrandizing, or in any way egotistical. I think those qualities ate unlikely to change. A few years ago when I was in Ängelholm, he had a group of schoolchildren visit the factory for a visit. Christian patiently explained everything in terms they could understand, even getting down on the floor with them. I can't imagine that from Elon. Not to mention the fact that Elon has patented nothing and engineered nothing.
Well his engineers is, it's not like he personally came up with everything on that car. I agree he's a visionary, unlike Elon musk who's a total fraud.
Nothing makes me miss hand-crank windows more than car camping, where I want to lower all the windows a little crack so mosquitos can't get in, but the clunky power windows lurch between closed and a too-large opening. I'm perfectly happy with manual seat adjustments, and who on earth wants automatic windshield wipers? I have a low spec minivan and I can easily go from the driver's seat to the back but the up-spec versions have a huge console blocking the way, and then in the back you hit your head on the DVD player in the ceiling. Pay more, have a worse experience, what madness. Great video, thank you!
@@JMurph2015 Yes, I can imagine they're great for vehicles with more than one driver. And I like regular cruise control, and adaptive cruise control is great in stop and go traffic. So some improvements are really improvements. :)
My respect for you has increased tenfold. I'm so grateful for you for voicing out my concerns through this video. You're the 1st TH-camr that I've ever contributed to. Hats off.
How cool would it be if smaller companies could buy the CF monocoque for their sports cars. It'd drastically lower weight. Granted, it's probably cheaper to have a power to weight ratio of 6 HP per pound through bigger engine than through lightening the car ... but all the other benefits are overlooked to look at that one metric. Personally, I miss the heck out of the 1993 RX7 ... which weighed unnnder 2,800 lbs. and had 255 HP.
I remember when i stumbled upon your channel because i was interested in your Aw11 Mr2. (around 30k subs) You've made so much of this channel! Please never sell out. This is my favourite automotive yt channel
jo... JOOOOOO!!!! I didn't realise that he got over a million subscribers. I guess I found this channel at around the same size as you did and always watched the videos but never paid attention to the subscriber count.
I drive a 2010 4 door Toyota Yaris sedan and it has manual windows mirrors and locks. The transmission is manual as well. No screens, no AC, super light weight and great on gas. It also can haul more or less as much as crossovers I rent when I travel for work. I love driving it and hope I never have to replace it.
bring back the double-din slot on the dash and let people use it the way they need. Radio? ok , phone mount? no problems, it wont even block your a/c vent !. Need neither? Cubby hole for casettes.....j/k
For someone who is driving, we don't "need" tech. Althoug, some sensors are great, and a screen with a rearview camera is also amazing. For the passengers, though... Not so much. They want to have their screens, because most that they can do while travelling is to sleep or talk. I rather enjoy my travel with silence, or at best, with my choice of songs. Therefore, my kid travels with a screen and headphones, my wife too.
The Jesko is not simple, but it’s sophisticated. The engineering of the gearbox and the weight reduction measures alone are insane! It’s a car designed holistically from the ground up.
He means simple in its overall philosophy. Yes the specific materials and engineering for parts is complex but at its core theory it is: A light weight, ICE powered RWD vehicle.
Yes because the goal was to achieve a specific performance goal. If that goal was shifted towards making a vehicle as economically efficient as possible we'd have better versions of the econoboxes of the 90s. We aren't actually willing to give up anything for the environment but it feels good to pretend we care when we buy into the latest environmental trend.
@@stevenwilliams1805 If you really think about it, a lot of the trends we see in regular cars are really just trends that consumers wanted. Much of the "right to repair" stuff is a consequence of the fact that most people prefer to have a new car every few years for various reasons. People who run their cars to the ground like you or I are quite rare in the grand scheme of things... to be honest I'm not entirely sure this is a consequence of giving things up for the environment. I'd say that environmental damage is a consequence of rampant consumerism and a mindset that encourages disposable items. In a perfect world, cars would have been passed down like houses, and the vast majority of cars on the road would be retrofitted with newer tech like seatbelts, ABS, TCS, and so on. New cars with these could still be on sale, too. But instead of a 5 year life cycle, we'd have a 10 or 15 or 20 year life cycle.
I love my 98 corolla. I bought it used for $2K in 2010. It will go forever. Manual locks, mirrors, windows. I would love a golf-cart-simple electric vehicle. I don't want it to do 0-6 in less than 8 seconds. I don't want it to sync with my phone or be able to redundantly do all the things my phone already does.
That'll never happen again because an alarm needs to have power windows power door locks. An insurance companies will never insure a car that doesn't have at least a rudimentary anti-theft system
My understanding for why everything becomes heavy crossovers is this. It is more comfortable to get in and out of crossovers than lower cars, and cars have to be heavier to get 5 star crash-ratings for their collisions with enormous pickup trucks.
The Japanese found out the hard way in the 90s that most people don't buy new and those that do weren't buying their cars, in America mainly, this saw them pivot from the 90s simple cars to add more "features" as that's how you sell to American car owners and now this has over taken the whole market. The type of person that buys new buys it for it being "better" than older cars so "features" became the way of doing this. Plus Features justified higher prices as cars became cheaper to build. The car he describes isn't profitable as you are competing for the type of customer who would buy a 10-20 year old car and doesn't want to buy new. This may change in 10 years when the last of the 90s cars become unaffordable and collectable but at least until then they likely won't sell
This kind of concept is kinda why I ended up buying a shitty hyundai accent last time I went car shopping. Very few bells and whistles, just four doors and 50mpg. The downside is that because it's meant to be a cheap car, the engineering and materials are cheap. The steering rack is about as robust as a paper bag and it broke going over a pothole at 25mph. They only seem to make these kinds of no-frills cars for cheap people with cheap expectations, so the standards are bottom-of-the-barrel. I think a lot of people want to be able to buck this trend, but what options do they have? There's very little middle-ground. It's either disposable or gargantuan.
That was brilliant. I am a design engineer, my girlfriend has an Aygo. That car has done an average fuel economy of 73mpg over a two year period. I am very impressed, especially as it is driven fast. I have a convertible mini Cooper. Also super economical. You have to drive this car fast.
I'm 100% with you. Btw: I think another problem is that we buy cars (or lease them for 3 years). So 99% of the time we need a simple little car for work - but when we buy a car we think about the 1% of other times. Therefore 150PS is not enough, two seats it's not enough, 130 Vmax is not enough, 450 liter space is not enough.
The dumbest part really is that the 1% of times is not about any of that. A car is to get you places, after all, and the 1% of times is about worse roads. If people were actually thinking about the 1% of times, they'd be buying stuff with actual offroad capabilities.
Let's take a look at the obligatory insurance in case of a accident: cars that weigh like two tons will just crush a 900 kilo Skoda, shouldn't they have to pay significantly more for excess weight?
First gen Audi Q7 was a good example. Especially on a side impact - Q7 crashing into another cars side - it could easily impale that car on its longitudinal main beams because the front bumper was way too weak for the cars weight. And at least in Ger these cars are stupid expensive to ensure as accidents like these ended with people sitting in the other car dying way too often.
The most common type of car accident is running off the road and hitting something. Statistics say that in such a situation you're safer in a big car. The vast majority of accidents where cars collide with other cars are low speed fender benders, where the difference in size and weight isn't very important.
Car companies are more interested in the stock price than pushing practical solutions to consumers. An electric car that weighs 6000 lbs and goes 0-60 in 2 seconds makes me gag.
@@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme 6000 livres, c'est 7150 dollars à la louche, mais là, on parle du poids en livre (soit 450gr environ), et non de la livre sterling, qui est la monnaie britannique !
@@dodenmanniskan8846 i'm aware of that since he said weighs donc pèse donc je me doutais bien qu'il parlait de poid/masse mais c'est sympa so thank you anyways
I currently live in a rural area, and drive a 10 year old Ford Transit, with a 100 hp diesel engine. I can't overstate to convenience of being able to transport just about anything, and do my own maintenance. No bells and whistles, but reliable and simple.
@@adminadminson3147 aww, what a great vehicle to keep running. I had an 05 Skoda Fabia estate for years, but sadly because the chassis had no rustproofing it didn't last quite as long.
@@DrMattBug Was my second car and I think i'm only ever going to buy estates from now on, fallen in love with the thing. something magical about having all that space in the back and I can't stand SUVs unless I was actually going off-road, which I'm not anytime soon haha estates are, in my opinion, the best configuration for a primary car. Spent countless weekends sleeping on an air mattress in the back of ours. Magic!
Fully with you on this. I remember my best car - Mitsubishi Colt, 1.2l engine, MT, fwd. Nothing failed during 4 years that I owned it. Want another one after your video.
Hear hear! My wife had an aygo. Loved driving it. Took it all over Scotland and, like you say, it didn't break. Mpg was magical. You make a very valid point and, it's all down to profit isn't it!
part of why I love my daily driver, manual door locks, manual windows, manual transmission, no ABS, no traction control, and it does exactly what I need it to do, and very reliably.
Except for the transmission, those are all things modern cars have that have almost no reliability issues, you're just missing out on convenience and safety. It gets old imo.
@@TheFPSPower I recall someone in a Tesla or some such EV being locked inside their car because the battery had died, since the door locks were just switches to an electric motor, they wouldn't function, locking her inside. Instead of a metal rod attached to the door lock, companies will opt to save a fraction of a penny with a bit of wiring and a switch. Something also tells me you haven't gone through the headache of replacing a window motor or regulator... These are things I never have to deal with on my daily. Plus learning to actually drive without relying on ABS or traction control forces you to have proper pedal control, which makes a better driver. fewer systems to fail generally means less failures. If people want such features, I say let them have those things, but the options for newer vehicles for people like me that don't want those features are zero.
@@SaxaphoneMan42 Tesla is an outlier because they dont use the door lever as the redundant physical opener, others do not do this. Power door locks does not have to mean you get locked out, that's just bad design. I have replaced a Window motor actually, it's not that hard, just pop it out and pop the new one in and I know its VERY hard to fix manual window levers, they are not actually more reliable or easier to fix, sorry to tell you. ABS is one of those things you THINK makes you a better driver until you have a sudden emergency and your monkey brain has no time to think "pedal control" and you just slam the brakes and just keep sliding. Ask me how I know, I drove without ABS for years and nearly shit myself when someone suddenly pulled in front of me and the wheels just locked up. Easy to talk when you have time to think, when you don't you'll wish you had ABS, it has saved me from a very bad situation with a heavy truck on a road with a fuel spill downhill. Traction control I dont give a shit about, but I don't live in snow climates where they are essential.
I'll take ABS and traction control, because ABS adds safety and if it fails you still have normal brakes, and traction control is good if you have tons of power, also because safety. That's not to say I haven't had a completely "analog" car as a daily driver and liked it.
@@samiraperi467 I mean there's nothing wrong with a person for wanting those things, personally though, if it were optional, I would go without it. IMO if you can't control the power of a vehicle, you shouldn't be driving it, with or without added safety devices.
in terms of simplicity, cars like said in the video topic, have been around for quite a while now, dacia, once you sit in it, you instantly understand that it's just a car, that works. james may would be proud reading this, also possibly anyone working for dacia
Well, when I sat in 2019 Dacia Logan I immediately wanted to quit due to how uncomfortable it is. And my daily was an old beaten Skoda Octavia mk1 in base trim with manual everything except steering and no A/C. But maybe a more ergonomic seat would make that Dacia more appealing.
Dacia is dead. The Spring is insanely expensive and the Duster is now horribly bloated with "features". The upcoming Bigster will be worse. The best simplest cars today are Hyundai i10 and Kia Picanto. A base model i30 or Ceed for €20k is also great.
This channel is not a typical automative enthusiast one. It' s a gem! I like when you express your thoughts about all these topics around us. Couldn't' t agree more with you!
Colin Chapman of Lotus quotes: Simplify, then add lightness. Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere.
🙋 Ummmm ackshully, removing weight doesn't actually help your top speed all that much, since top speed is just a function of aero + a bit of rolling resistance vs horsepower. But your point is generally correct. Dropping weight makes the car more responsive which generally helps "lap time" more than just adding more speed to the straights.
Thanks for this one, mr. D4a. I am a customer without a product. That's why I still drive my 86 aw11 mr2. Nobody makes a product that is small and simple anymore. And it really makes me sad.
@@chiefdenisThe Dacia Duster wasn't simple before and now it is absolutely ruined with how bloated it is. The best simple vehicles are Hyundai i10, base model i20, base model i30 and Land Cruiser 70 Series (that is not efficient though and in most markets bloated with crap sadly).
We need a Open Hardware car. Build from the community, for the community. Parts that can be easily 3d printed, not mirrored parts (mirrors, lights, glasses, door handles etc) for cutting the production cost down. Open hardware means that you can have free access on technical documentation, CAD files, every information you need and improve the current design, make it better for everyone. Companies goal, is to make more money. Nothing more. Great video!!!
We really need to make a push with legislation for more transparency. Cars are the biggest surveillance tools there are and they are the least private place you could possible be. Carmakers secretly take all your data and sell them. Right to repair, open source, no more lies.
I love this idea. I would love to buy the plans for an old engine to bring back and produce. Which - non interference, maybe gear timing like the old Volvos.
Interesting idea! I could see it work out for interior parts, software and other small bits of the car, but how could the community build around more complex parts such as engine block and subframe?
The same way it works in open source software. There are a lot of people working in companies who have a lot of experience who contribute for free to open source.
@@GreenDriveIndiaYes I've heard of many cars that have fewer structural elements in emerging markets which sucks because they also have worse infrastructure so the consequences of an accident are graver.
So glad to see you have over 1 million subscribers! You are such a great teacher! I’ve been following you for a number of years now. I’ve learned so much thank you thank you thank you.
D4A, I've been a subscriber for a long while and this is for sure a different style of video from you... I like it! I couldn't help but laugh when I realized that this was less of a "Why is X, Here is the answer." style that you so well produce, but rather it was a well reasoned absolute rant of a video. Thank you.
This is why i love this channel you present the facts in a clear and understandable way and as a mechanic whos been in this industry for almost 15 years i agree
The second generation Citroen C1 actually fits this description excellently. It weighs 800 something kg, has a microscopic engine, nothing in the interior other than the true basics. It still has A/C, Bluetooth and everything you'd ever need, but it was cheap to buy new and even cheaper to run. It suffers from being not well engineered, the engine is shit, the gearbox is shit, the steering is shit. But nonetheless it remains a great car that can do anything you ask it to.
I used to work for a car leasing company who managed the fleet for g4s (UK) and they bought thousands of c1s. Straight from the factory not through a dealer and they got them brand new for less than 4k! The driver's did write them off a lot though haha.
I still have an Aygo, only thing I miss is the glove compartment, I never had seen a car without one until I got the Aygo, but for everything I need in a car, it works.
The fiat panda 750 and 1000 (I have seen only those 2 in real life) had an aluminium-tube across the cockpit (knee-high from the left-door-hinge to the right-door-hinge), and a piece of textile looped around it, reaching forwards to the cockpit, textile was in excess, so that its middle-of-the-front-to-back-distance hung downwards by gravity... That was essentially a very long shelf, built like a beach-saiz-long...
#1 reason (at least in the US) I think we don't have smaller cars is - insurance and licensing. Small simple car for going to/from work, and a larger nicer one for road trips. Makes sense - except you have to pay for both insurance and licensing 24/7 for all of these vehicles even though a person can only drive one at a time. So we trade higher fuel costs (which is fairly cheap compared to Europe) for one large vehicle for a lower overall TCO. Reform licensing and insurance billing, and that could change.
Right, my response to his confusion on the popularity of crossovers is safety, both in terms of federal requirements and the preference of car buyers to sit higher and feel less liable to die in a collision. The safety of making cars bulkier is kind of dumb, but the auto makes tried to fight it and American consumers at large didn't care.
This is only half true. For a single household yes, but how many single households have more than 1 car? Households with multiple people having only one car be allowed to drive at a time is silly. In Austria here we can have one license plate for multiple cars and we pay the tax and insurance of the most expensive one. It kinda sucks when you have a 65 hp car for commuting and a 300 hp sports car but oh well that's Europe.
bro when you said “we put unnecessary things in to our cars.”, i paused the video and thought some things myself and the things that came up to my mind was exactly the things you just named, even the order was the same :D. Insane!
The perfect citycar you theoriced is in my point of view a renault twingo mk1 , verly lightweight, simple in desing and motorization , very compact, measuring only 3,4m and fairly aerodinamic. It can make the back seats lay flat so its a very competent in carrying things from one place to another and it can even be converted to a bed.
@@chiefdenisFirst generation Twingo is the best mini/city car ever designed. You need to drive or ride one to understand just how much interior room they've managed to get from such a small chasis.
@@BobSaint that twingo is very impressive in terms of visibility. I can only tell by my own experience, but only an upper class mercedes could reach that kind of visibility. A nice car to drive.
@@CombustiveVideo Up! is a very good mini/city car, just like Lupo before it, but not on the same level as Twingo. Twingos rear seat, which could be moved almost all the way up to the rear door, makes seating for 4 tall people (like 195cm) a comfortable experience. Mk1 Fiat Panda before the first or second restyle (not sure right now) had the "bed" option too. It's also a great little car, and 4X4 by Steyr models are ridiculously priced for years now. 90s Fiat Cinquecento was also a great and fun mini. Too bad it didn't get the F.I.R.E. engines Panda had in the time. There's also a kind of forgotten mini - VW Polo Mk2, the "Breadvan". It's a small city car, but with extremely practical load space when rear seats are put down or removed. I beleive that the last really great city car was Toyota iQ. Edit: There is also a LOT of great Japanese small and KEI cars, but I'm sticking to European market only. Sadly, EU made it impossible for makers to justify producing such vehicles - for uknown reasons, the most strict anti-polution laws were left for the smallest and lightest cars. Idiocracy.
Admittedly a Japan-exclusive, but I'd argue the Daihatsu Mira e:S is pretty much that: -starts at 860.000 Yen inc. VAT (about 4.950 Euros 5.300 Dollars) -weighs in at 650 kg -gets 4l/100km WLTC -luxury features are limited to aircon, power steering, power windows, and a 2DIN slot for a headunit of your choice
@@SuperKoe When they made a one off car for crash testing with thicker steel and additional bracing welded into it you have to wonder how safe the production ones were.
La verdad que tus videos como siempre me encantan, estoy estudiando mi anteúltimo año de Ingeniería en Industria automotriz y la verdad que la idea de la que hablás está hace mucho tiempo rondando en mi cabeza. Me encanto como hiciste la conexión entre un Koenigsegg Jesko y un auto barato que cualquier universitario en cualquier país tercermundista como el mío podría comprar. Sos de los mejores creadores de contenido sobre autos en la actualidad, seguí así. Saludos desde Argentina.
I COMPLETELY agree with you on the small, light and simple vehicle. We are finally allowed to get the Japanese kei cars here in the states and they have become very popular, and now some states are trying to ban them because they see them as a threat!
Threat to profit margins!!! Fight back against these bans!!! Enough is enough of anti constitutional bans in favor of overpriced, overweight, over (and somehow at the same time under) engineered crap, please if you have a gram of influence spread the word. If you can, buy cars like fleet cars (those that are bought in bulk for taxis, cop cars and such, like Crown Vics back in the day), those usually have way less features and are far simpler and should be a bit cheaper, not just to buy but to maintain because there are more 2nd hand parts.
Magnificent piece of work, I whish I could upvote your videos more than once. This whole "SUPERSIZE EVERYTHING and CHARGE A SHIT TON OF MONEY for no real improvements" trend has RUINED EVERYTHING. But alas, what once was, shall never be again. Common sense and simple engineering are concepts lost by now. Keep spreading the knowledge, I'll keep watching.
One of my fave cars was my little Peugeot 205XS that had an aluminium block and weighed only 857kg, no power steering, no abs, no traction control and a twin choke carb. I had it tuned to 115 bhp and it was so much fun to drive.
I still have Peugeot 405 with 1.9l, around 120hp. Damn thing have power steering, electric front windows, 2 airbags and AC and still weighs around 1130kg and that's very large car. Today's VW Polo weights 1400+ kg and it's ~10cm narrower and 25cm shorter than 405 and have 1.0l engine. I don't want to know what have they done to that car to be so heavy. Fun fact that Peugeot is faster and more agile than most of today's B and C cars that have 150+ HP
@@captainuki YES, only mandatory equipment if you ask me is ABS, (no ASR, ESP etc, in winter they are making more problems than benefits) AC, heated outside mirrors (it's pain in the ass to drive without heated mirrors during foggy winter days or when snow is falling, i end up breaking ice every 10-20 minutes), power steering (20-30kgs for that is reasonable) and good stereo with BT ability for calls and streaming music, Airbags and that's it.
@@toddsmith8608 Was I making fun? The video had "sheded" written in the video with question marks. I was pointing out how sheded could be the right word after all. You call it making fun, I call it being playful.
I'm also enjoyning my Taunus TC1, but the ones we've got in Argentina have a 4 cyl 2.3 Pinto engine. Just the engine and me, no power steering, no A/C, no unnecessary crap. Oh and good old VERY confortable seats, praised by anyone who drives new cars and get to sit on it.
Great video! As an automotive engineering student I have to say this is my favourite youtube channel and I think this is my new favourite video of this channel. Keep it up!!
Yo by the end of this year i’ll have to choose between mechanical and automotive engineering, and i have no clue what to pick, can you give me some pieces of advice, or just your experience v
Take an MX5/Miata, extend the wheelbase just enough so it can seat 4 people, make it a hadtop/liftback so you can actually use the trunk and remove all electric windows, mirrors, seats, etc. I just need air conditioning, a radio and cruise control. That's it, perfect car.
I doubt Mazda ever imagined how long the interest would last for the MX5. It has proved to be such a fantastic platform for what was mocked as just a well off hairdresser's car (to replace their Ford Capri).
That's my favourite of your videos so far. I think I agree with every point you make here. Thank you for making this point - hopefully more of these vehicles in the future (motorcycles too).
you described a motorcycle, absolute perfection for efficient transport. 200kgs, supercar performance, a tenth of the price etc. use a cheap old car for 3 winter months and a bike for the other 9, enjoy life
not so great in heavy rain and wind. not so great to carry a weeks worth of groceries. but i get you, just take the old car for these occasions, too :-)
@@Creyzooo for groceries a 125 scooter works perfectly in the city, try it out. like a honda pcx, it has huge underseat capacity. add a topbox, a backpack, maybe aliexpress hook for the handlebar to put on two shopping bags for balance... you can carry as much as a normal car almost. and park anywhere, ride with 2l/100km... use camping clothes and handlebar gloves for rain, everything is better than to be miserable stuck in traffic lights, there are solutions! :D
@@Creyzooo As a biker I can say, If you need a machine to take only YOU somwhere which is like 90% of cases, bike is the best. Why carry 1700kg, a butload of fuel, a quazilion of gadgedts and gizmos, entire store of things that can go wrong, just to meet someone for a cup of coffe. Also as I guy who went camping with bike, you would be suprised how much a properly geared bike can carry
Matt Farah from TST said it best. People in the US buy vehicles for the 110% use case. Meaning, people will buy a vehicle based on the POSSIBILITY that they MIGHT need to move a sofa one day. So, they buy a F150 or Tahoe. The US buys their cars based on what they WANT, not what they NEED.
Happens all the time with motorcycles. I always see people saying they want some kind of unicorn bike like it has to somehow win motocross races but also be comfortable cruising on a highway for days at a time. Then you find out what they're actually doing and the only dirt they ever touch is a bit of gravel in the parking lot outside a bar.
I've got an '01 Dodge Dakota that's essentially the truck version of what he described. Dead simple, no larger than it needs to be, and stupidly useful (I've helped move family at least half a dozen times, and any time someone gets anything large the truck gets called on). Unfortunately, CAFE regulations mean that permissible emissions are largely determined by the size and weight of a vehicle, essentially killing off trucks like mine. Even the modern equivalents of the Ranger and Colorado are the size of full-size trucks from the late 90's and early 2000's, because it's easier for them to pass emissions at that size.
Yeah why not just rent a carriage if you need to move something big. Or just use roof racks like everyone without a tow hook. No need for a big truck 😅
The US government killed small, fuel efficient trucks when they adopted CAFE standards. Today's Toyota Taccma is the size of a full sized F-150 from 20 years ago. I know, because I have one of each stting in my driiveway.
I just bought a Suzuki samurai SJ413. Tiny engine, zero electronics, basically a fuel efficient box that will go anywhere while taking abuse. Been enjoying how approachable maintaining and upgrading the thing is, it is a masterclass in how to make the most with the least
Absolutely agree 100%. Which is why I drive a 10-year-old Lotus Elise S. It has a 1.8 litre supercharged Toyota engine, the car weighs virtually nothing, costs very little to run and it's great fun!
I feel you brother. I still drive a 2009 Peugeot 107 and I'm not planning to change it until it runs. The car runs perfectly, can be serviced by user and economic. Super fun to drive especially once it has been mapped and the air intake upgraded.
I agree, it’s a shame that simple cheap cars are not produced any more, or are discontinued. I’m sure many people would choose it but there is less profit in them so we are offered basically what manufacturers want us to buy. Regulations don’t help either, imposing more and more obligatory safety equipment whether we want or not.
I read somewhere from Autocar Data that the average weight of a car has increased by nearly half a metric ton since 2016. As an example a modern F250 Pickup weighs 75% more than a 1950s Ford F250 pickup but the max payload is basically the same... about 1300kg. Your argument for the Aygo has always been my argument for the Fiat Panda, same deal, simple, easy doesn't go wrong, everything is cheap, cost nothing to run, couldn't be easier to work on. Its also my argument for still using a 26 year old Transit van as my work vehicle, its simple, it doesn't go wrong, if it does, its easy and usually inexpensive to repair. Its not the fastest, its not as economical on deisel as a modern van but so far including some repairs and the price of the vehicle it has still cost me basically nothing by comparison to its modern equivalent and I guarantee you it'll outlive them as well. Its a simple, a little unrefined and unashamedly analogue work vehicle. And I guarantee you no 2024 model Transit can will still be firing on the button and doing solid days of work in 2050. Not one.
Another reason it will never happen is the trend of planned obsolescence. How does it benefit a car company to make a car last a long time and be reliable during that time? They'll never take it in to get it fixed because it doesn't break, and won't buy a new one because it lasts so long.
Honestly, one of the craziest takeaways from this for me is that the Nevera is only 2 seconds slower *while weighing not much less than double* what the Jesko does. Electric hypercars are going to be nuts if some really good battery technology ever comes along.
"the profit margins are small because you can't charge more for less" Yes you can, if you put the right badge on the hood. Ask Porsche or Ferrari, the stripped-out track versions of their supercars are always more expensive than the ones with all the comfort features installed. (This is a joke btw, I know those versions typically have more power and feature more expensive light-weight materials. And I'm not actually suggesting that cars with fewer features should cost more)
General Motors and Renault are infamous for that in South America. Grabbing Dacias, Vauxhalls and Opels, then giving them a Renault/Chevrolet branding, so they can charge more for them and make them recognizable is both hilarious, smart and infuriating.
If the memory serves me right, Porsche has paid extras that do nothing but remove features such as A/C for weight saving. I might be wrong, can't be bothered to check right now
@@sheeshulex I'm pretty sure the GT2RS comes without A/C as standard, or at least in older generations it did. But as for their normal cars, it's not true that they charge you for removing features. In fact, on a normal 911 or whatever I don't think you can even have standard equipment like A/C removed, at least not in their online configurator, but who knows if you were to call them about it...
Instead of putting in carbon fiber bucket seats just put a cloth seat with manual adjusments in it and you save the same weight and thousands of dollars.
I do miss the entry level cars with entry level prices we used to have. I’ve owned many cars and my favorites were the compacts, like Mazda3 and Corollas, like ones from 2007-2010. Easy to drive, easy to get in and out of, decent gas mileage, super easy to work on, and easy to add aftermarket electronics to. On top of that, when I was driving them, I wasn’t thinking of the car payment.
I think I’m more impressed by the 0-400 in the Jesko at 18.82 seconds versus the Rimac’s 21.32. But just as astonishingly, the Rimac seems to be quicker from 400-0 at 8.61 seconds versus 9.01 for the Jesko which is super surprising considering the weight difference between them.
All these replies don't counter in the fact that the rimac has regenerative braking going for it, it shouldve actually achieved more of a gap in braking performance vs the jesko. So one of the 2 is not performing to the max and im betting it the rimac. With the extra weight there is less brake performance due to tires reaching their limit faster. Unless it is a specially developed tire like on the chiron ss
@@str8xrippin Braking is traction limited so regen won't help, weight doesen't matter if the brakes are sized accordingly. Rimac probably has more downforce so it can brake harder at speed.
Climate change is not about improving CO2, it's about creating massive new markets for expensive new things to market and buy, and pressuring the government to subsidize it.
Virtually every heavy industry uses electric drive with a diesel generator, and every time the subject of passenger car efficiency comes up it's shocking that road cars have never adopted the same drivetrain.
Heavy industry typically go diesel-electric for the huge benefit of full torque starting at 0 RPM and great level of control over the power delivery. Really heavy things take an enormous amount of energy input just to begin moving. A diesel or petrol engine would have to be geared down a lot in order to keep the engine RPM in the ideal operating range for optimal torque which adds to the mechanical complexity, cost, weight, and general maintenance. In passenger vehicles, diesel-electric or petrol-electric drivetrains could be used while removing the need for a transmission/transaxle. Why this isn't done, I'm not sure. It would not surprise me if the primary factor is the much higher cost of a generator, electric motor(s), and all of the electronics to run them properly. Could also just be that automotive manufacturers are just sticking to what they know. Could also be they don't want to impact their hybrid or EV models.
Chevy volt if you want one. Plus at higher speeds its still more effective to have a mechanical linkage. Plus heavy industry doesn't have anywhere near the same regulations on emissions.
Much of train efficiencies come from both the lower rolling resistance of steel wheels on steel rails and the lower air resistance the train faces on a per-weight unit basis (Freight trucks would have to be drafting each other to get the latter advantage). This lets freight trains get efficiencies on the order of 300-500 mile-tons per gallon of diesel (basically 300-500 miles for each ton the train weighs on 1 gallon of diesel). My understanding is that for on road diesel trucks, this is usually less than 100 mile-tons per gallon of diesel, but I haven't found anything specific. Also, keep in mind that efficiency doesn't actually include regenerative braking that EVs have; most modern trains don't use it yet. As a comparison, my 2016 Honda fit has a max curb weight of 2630lbs, or 1.3 tons, and a best fuel efficiency of 50 MPH when I've driven it on solely moving interstates, giving my car only 38.5 mile-tons per gallon of gasoline. Trains simply have the advantage in efficiency on anything on the roads any way you look at it. Converting all on-road vehicles to diesel-electric or gas-electric series hybrids won't cut it at all, especially since the drivetrain will likely further more energy losses in the motion->electricity->motion conversion, at least for highway driving. There may be an advantage with city driving with this drivetrain if it includes regenerative braking systems. But almost all car hybrids today are parallel hybrids which include a mechanism to send the engine power more directly to the wheels without going through the electric conversions. For diesel-electric ships, I can't help with you there. Most trucks do not drive on water, last I checked, making a direct comparison trickier. :)
You basically described my '97 Corolla. Gets the job done with no fuss. Even with 207k miles the engine still runs strong. I want to keep it on the road as long as I can.
A good point I'm glad this video mentioned is that even though these cars are larger, they dont really offer any more interior space. A lot of it comes down to MPG and safety regulations. Larger cars are allowed to have lower MPG, but also a lot of the safety features people want (like side airbags) require lots of space in the parts of cars that used to be purely structural.
In China they already have these kind of cars. They are selling alot in the Chinese market. Wuling Mini, Wuling Air EV and Geely Panda and many more. THere is a video on YT called: "The City with millions of Cheap Chinese Micro EVs" Small simple and light Cars for people who want to go from A to B. They also have a festival dedicated for Mini cars.
What he wants is the "Volkswagen" of the 21st century. The problem is that it has to be build by a closed capital company centered on an ideal rather than the desire to make money. Essentially, the car has to be a gift.
No one ever appreciates that, cradle-to-grave, a small simple light ICE car will be MUCH more environmentally friendly than any electric crossover - let alone American SUV behemoths. Then consider road damage is proportional to the 4th power of mass, then consider how much parking area could be reduced, then consider safety and economy and traffic and maintenance...
@@SweBeach2023 How so? I've seen varied reports up to 150k kms for a "break even point" and an increasing number of papers recently put it at 100k +. And this is in an EQUIVALENT CASE. My amateur extrapolation is that a proper rudimentary lightweight ICE would either never be caught by the crossover EV or at a point far beyond their expected lifecycle
@@CountFisco Only if assuming a worst-case scenario in regard to production of car and electricity. In a best-case scenario it's more in the 10 000 - 20 000 km range before hitting break-even. And this doesn't even consider second-life uses for the battery.
Who is most responsible for for cars getting heavier and heavier? The nanny state. Airbags, lane departure warning, auto stopping, TPMS, backup cameras (which require a screen), the list goes on, and on, and on. You're also right about the hypocrisy. 100%
concept and job of the state are important, but they are sell-outs to the industry... It´s the industry putting pressure and bribing/corrupting the politicians.
@@BratislavMetulskie LOL first they made the baren logan, for something about 5K€ and now there is no dacia under 10 or 12k, fully bloated! so yeah... if beeing a boomer is having eyes open... then...
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I HAVE ONE REALLY SIMPLE CAR. TO THE DAILY CHORES. IT USES A FIAT FIRE ENGINE. IT DOES 12,5 KM/L.
BUT LETS BE HONEST, ISNT THAT EASY, BECAUSE OF LACK OF CONFORT.
There are cars like that checkout maruti 800, also some tech are necessary ex: heated/cooled seats in cold/tropic regions, but stupid tech is definitly unnecessary
Why is it that small single cylinder engines never seem to exceed 650cc
I know of the zabel 700cc two stroke and a few other examples but in a broad spectrum it seems there is a reason and may make a good subject on a video
I would have thought the entry models from Dacia would fill your spec pretty well.
For commuting though, in the uk, 50kph would be more than enough for most city dwellers. Chances are they won't break 40 except on school holidays.
As for small uncomplicated cars, I still miss my Smart Roadster. Had a few gadgets like heated seats and air con but not too complex. It was a hoot to drive too as I could feel like I was ragging the car around and not have to destroy the speed limit to do so.
I have been saying this for a long time. Even electric cars. No screens, just normal gauges. Solid construction, rust mitigation, durability, and designed for maintenance. Light, cheap, simple, and stays on the road for years. It'll never happen.
What about GPS ?
@@catinthehat5140your damn phone is the GPS.
It's already on the market for ages. It's called commercial vehicle. Simple no frills or gimmick and built to last enduring tough use. Just buy one to daily commute 😂
@@ardijanuar2036 No, they are designed for heavy weights and dings. This means that they are heavy, and they are cheap to purchase *in bulk*. The efficiency for private customers is not that good.
@@catinthehat5140you already have the best GPS & Entertainmenr system in your pocket right now
Bro dreamed up a car, and basically theorized a 4 seat Miata without the convertible mechanism
With all the power
@@kurlyfry7916 lightweight and simple Cobra 427 replica - I'would buy one, but they are expensive as fuarrrrk
fiat panda, Citroën ax, Peugeot 205, Renault 5
Nah man, a Mitsubishi Mirage
Nah, more like a Suzuki Alto or Ignis
Congratulations! I've been working on the automotive industry for 26years and repeated the same mantra since the beginning.
Every machine has its purpose. There is a reason for building a small simple car, a different one for a station wagon, a pickup truck, a sports car, but there's no good reason for a crossover.
It is a pleasure to hear that, thanks for the great video
“Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” ― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Sadly I think most every consumer these days would only remove this quote from their lives to make room for "more".
Great quote !! Never heard that before. 🚀
Noted
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. Author of "the little prince". was also a pilot of the french post between Africa and France, died in a plane-accident.
So......perfection is everyone riding around on unicycles?
I'm jk.
Those cars exists. I ordered a Suzuki Swift. 950 kg. 1.2 aspirated angine. I also have an NB 1.8. The basic of driving, a rev happy engine, short gear transmission, tons of feedback from the steering wheel, rwd, 50/50. For me, perfection.
Also mazda 2, 950 kg and 1.5 na engine with 75hp, only a very small screen and basically no features except power windows and a reverse camera
he's talking about new cars, I love the old miata's but stuff like that doesn't come out
Suzuki sj410 4wd 1.0L 46hp 870kg 1984
rwd in swift??
@@mychamycha27 that is what is surprising me
Well, as an automotive journalist I can say only one thing about this: that car exists, but it seems like everybody forgot about it.
It's a Suzuki Swift in its last generation and basically has everything you're talking about. I know 994 kg is not 800, but it's really not that bad. It has new 1,2l DualJet engine (naturally aspirated, 3 pistons and hella lot of compression ratio and 40 percent thermal efficiency), really small and lightweight mild-hybrid drivetrain (some 0,036 kWh under the driver's seat) and basically you can run on the highwayish 130 km/h for around 4,6 l/100 km with 5spd manual (precise as hell, reminds me of the first skoda fabia). Not exceeding 115 km/h you can easily get to 3,8 or so. And it has all the bells and whistles and finally even also some sound insulation that Suzuki apparently hated so much last few years. Handles very well (indeed), doing proper moose test around the track, it was very close to fabulous last gen Honda Civic. Oil filter the same as Peugeot 106 and it's making 98-99 g CO2 in combined WLTP. Testing it last week, i was stunned. Finally something different! So if you can, get your hands on one and try it! You'll be smiling ear to ear... as I was. :D
But that being said, it's a pity that Suzuki is apparently the only one doing this kind of stuff for the European market. And last but not least, i really really appreciate your work. A++ stuff, really!
And if you STILL want a crossover get an ignis 😂 Great little cars, I got one by accident and I love it. Get 50mpg mixed use and that’s with all weather tyres. Noisy? Yes, noisy. But I have a rack and carry a kayak on it, and my other vehicle is a van which is noisier 😂
Suzuki hasn't sold cars in Canada since 2014, and I suspect the USA market is much the same. That entire market segment is gone. I wish that weren't true, but it is.
Mitsubishi spacestar?
@@NonyoBusiness-o7b I remember shopping for my first car. Had to be new for "safety" and "reliability" reasons. Had to be AWD for the 5 days we'd get snow. Was forced into buying Subaru because I'd rather drive nothing at all than an SUV/CUV.
I genuinely don't understand how the average person is fine with a car that has bouncy suspension and incredibly numb steering. After seeing a bunch of idiots swerve around morning traffic in SUVs, I can't help but laugh at how silly they look bouncing and jiggling around. It looks idiotic and not even in a cool way. At this point for a daily, if my car goes, I'll probably never buy anything newer than pre-pandemic.
I'd say the main issue here - as usually - is not the car maker or the government but the market and what "it" (i.e. the average human being) wants. And the reason we are lightyears off some form of green, sustainable personal transport system is because the average person does not care for one, does not want one and most of the time does not even know all the issue their current car causes. As a matter of fact, considering that the vast majority of humans theses days live in cities, the vast majority probably does not need to own a car and could instead use car sharing.
my aunt still drives her civic hatch that she bought brand new in 89. 300k+ miles, 30+ mpg, great visibility, hauls groceries... pretty efficient use of metal and plastic if you ask me!
My father still daily drives his 87 accord hatchback that he bought new. 360+ miles and almost 40mpg, with a carburetor! Neither the motor nor the trans has been apart besides clutch and timing belt replacements
I feel good knowing that my car does not have a lithium battery, a large electric motor, or any of the high power electronics that make a hybrid work. I believe that this has to pay off in lower maintenance costs over time.
When she’s done hit me up, especially if it’s a hatch!
Currently own a 1994 EG civic and a
Suzuki Swift Sport. They are both fantastic. Light, simple, reliable and cheap to own and operate. I highly recommend avoiding anything vehicle newer than 2010. I will likely never buy new again... My ultimate dream is to own a Mini Moke!😂
Put an oil catch can in that thing, maybe replace the seals is the only things to add. Watch the MPG and reliability go up, preventative maintenance.
Send this to everyone with any amount of power in the automotive industry.
Trust me, this is the LAST thing they care about. Its all about squeezing profit out.
They are at the mercy of those in power in DC.
We need to focus on removing that power from them.
There is ZERO justification for any sort of auto regulation in the constitution that all of our elected officials swear an oath to uphold.
@@spinnetti this goes for the majority of professions. most people are only working for money so they gonna do whats gonna get them the most of it
so they can throw it into the bin?
RFK is probably your best option
if the majority of car on the road were light weight, then the accidant damages would also drop since there are no more 2,5 ton cars hitting eachothers. so its just less mass and force being transferred.
Kei cars work right into that, shame they arent as popular in the states.
YES TO ALL OF THIS. I am so tired of tech, especially in cars.
The Jesko has more tech than most cars
Edit: nevermind, I watched the rest of the video, yeah I want simplicity and less electronics too
I feel like people say this, but I for example, want more tech, and I would imagine most people are voting with their wallets, and the basic cars aren't selling (is my guess)
@@Richardlizhu wrong guess. there is big second hand market for people who dont want tech.
@@jebise1126 Well I guess that's the thing right? If they're only buying 2nd hand cars and not new cars, then the car makers have no incentive to make those cars. I personally also only buy 2nd hand haha, but I like my backup cameras and apple carplay
Such cars actually do exist, but only people with limited budget are buying them. Everyone talks how they would like such car, but in reality they don't buy those cars.
Christian von Koenigsegg is an absolute engineering genius. Not to mention a legendary perfectionist. Mainstream automakers need to be watching him and his team closely.
They'll never because they only exist to make a profit and exploit as much as possible.............CVK only exist to live his dream with no limits and imaginary achievements personified in reality. I don't think money has ever been his goal, if he builds it they will come.
Imagine the other car makers we spent $Billions on research and yet this guy does this on a shoestring?
I think the biggest and most important lesson to learn from Elon Musk, is that you shouldn't describe someone at the head of a company as a genius at anything.
Sure, maybe Christian is an engineering genius. But what is far more likely is that he hires people who are really good at their job (engineering) and really good thinking outside of conventions.
Maybe everything in the Koenigsegg TFG from idea, to design, to engineering prototypes, to final product was 100% done by Christian. Maybe he simply asked his engineers "we have this Freevalve system, how small could we make an engine if we want it to make 600 hp?" and his engineers did everything else. We don't know.
But I, for one, don't want to see him go down the Elon Musk route of spewing absolute nonsense to his fanboys with no one willing to correct him on it. E.g.
> Due to the nature of Cybertruck, which is made of bright metal with mostly straight edges, any dimensional variation shows up like a sore thumb.
> All parts for this vehicle, whether internal or from suppliers, need to be designed and built to sub 10 micron accuracy.
> That means all part dimensions need to be to the third decimal place in millimeters and tolerances need be specified in single digit microns. If LEGO and soda cans, which are very low cost, can do this, so can we.
> Precision predicates perfectionism.
> Elon
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@@MrMartinSchou I've met both Elon and Christian. One has always been a petulant twit, while the other, despite his family's heritage, is not. (Full disclosure: I'm related to Christian by marriage.) One of the big differences is humility. Christian is a brilliant engineer, and he's in this for the challenge of making rolling works of mechanical art. He always has been. He is not known to play politics, be self-aggrandizing, or in any way egotistical. I think those qualities ate unlikely to change. A few years ago when I was in Ängelholm, he had a group of schoolchildren visit the factory for a visit. Christian patiently explained everything in terms they could understand, even getting down on the floor with them. I can't imagine that from Elon. Not to mention the fact that Elon has patented nothing and engineered nothing.
Well his engineers is, it's not like he personally came up with everything on that car. I agree he's a visionary, unlike Elon musk who's a total fraud.
Nothing makes me miss hand-crank windows more than car camping, where I want to lower all the windows a little crack so mosquitos can't get in, but the clunky power windows lurch between closed and a too-large opening. I'm perfectly happy with manual seat adjustments, and who on earth wants automatic windshield wipers? I have a low spec minivan and I can easily go from the driver's seat to the back but the up-spec versions have a huge console blocking the way, and then in the back you hit your head on the DVD player in the ceiling. Pay more, have a worse experience, what madness. Great video, thank you!
It makes me miss the 1993 RX7 ... which weighed unnnder 2,800 lbs. and had 255 HP.
On the other hand though, there's no way I would give up power adjusting front seats. They're just far far too useful for locking in your ergonomics.
@@JMurph2015 Yes, I can imagine they're great for vehicles with more than one driver. And I like regular cruise control, and adaptive cruise control is great in stop and go traffic. So some improvements are really improvements. :)
My respect for you has increased tenfold. I'm so grateful for you for voicing out my concerns through this video. You're the 1st TH-camr that I've ever contributed to. Hats off.
How cool would it be if smaller companies could buy the CF monocoque for their sports cars. It'd drastically lower weight. Granted, it's probably cheaper to have a power to weight ratio of 6 HP per pound through bigger engine than through lightening the car ... but all the other benefits are overlooked to look at that one metric.
Personally, I miss the heck out of the 1993 RX7 ... which weighed unnnder 2,800 lbs. and had 255 HP.
I remember when i stumbled upon your channel because i was interested in your Aw11 Mr2. (around 30k subs)
You've made so much of this channel! Please never sell out. This is my favourite automotive yt channel
jo... JOOOOOO!!!! I didn't realise that he got over a million subscribers. I guess I found this channel at around the same size as you did and always watched the videos but never paid attention to the subscriber count.
@@Blockbuster2033 i did notice the sub count rising and I think when he dropped all the boost school videos the increase was the highest
Wow that's really early. I found him when he was in the low 6 figures. So unique the technical breakdowns and just a gem in every way.
I drive a 2010 4 door Toyota Yaris sedan and it has manual windows mirrors and locks. The transmission is manual as well. No screens, no AC, super light weight and great on gas. It also can haul more or less as much as crossovers I rent when I travel for work. I love driving it and hope I never have to replace it.
As the owner of a small lightweight dog I can confirm whippets are useless at tricks
No one needs tech in cars, we have phones.
All we need is some speakers and a charger :D
Exactly all I need is a tiny screen to show artist/song and volume
bring back the double-din slot on the dash and let people use it the way they need. Radio? ok , phone mount? no problems, it wont even block your a/c vent !. Need neither? Cubby hole for casettes.....j/k
We also have tablets for those that want bigger screens.
For someone who is driving, we don't "need" tech.
Althoug, some sensors are great, and a screen with a rearview camera is also amazing.
For the passengers, though... Not so much.
They want to have their screens, because most that they can do while travelling is to sleep or talk.
I rather enjoy my travel with silence, or at best, with my choice of songs.
Therefore, my kid travels with a screen and headphones, my wife too.
now i just need the 3.5mm jack back in my phone
This is exactly why I love my 1999 Ford Ranger. 4 cylinder, 2wd, 5 speed manual. Not much to go wrong on it and I love it.
The Jesko is not simple, but it’s sophisticated. The engineering of the gearbox and the weight reduction measures alone are insane! It’s a car designed holistically from the ground up.
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He means simple in its overall philosophy. Yes the specific materials and engineering for parts is complex but at its core theory it is: A light weight, ICE powered RWD vehicle.
Yes because the goal was to achieve a specific performance goal. If that goal was shifted towards making a vehicle as economically efficient as possible we'd have better versions of the econoboxes of the 90s. We aren't actually willing to give up anything for the environment but it feels good to pretend we care when we buy into the latest environmental trend.
@@stevenwilliams1805 If you really think about it, a lot of the trends we see in regular cars are really just trends that consumers wanted. Much of the "right to repair" stuff is a consequence of the fact that most people prefer to have a new car every few years for various reasons. People who run their cars to the ground like you or I are quite rare in the grand scheme of things... to be honest I'm not entirely sure this is a consequence of giving things up for the environment. I'd say that environmental damage is a consequence of rampant consumerism and a mindset that encourages disposable items.
In a perfect world, cars would have been passed down like houses, and the vast majority of cars on the road would be retrofitted with newer tech like seatbelts, ABS, TCS, and so on. New cars with these could still be on sale, too. But instead of a 5 year life cycle, we'd have a 10 or 15 or 20 year life cycle.
@@MidnightGreen4649 20 year life cycle? Cars from the 90s generally don't have a problem reaching that, it's been down hill from there.
I love my 98 corolla. I bought it used for $2K in 2010. It will go forever. Manual locks, mirrors, windows.
I would love a golf-cart-simple electric vehicle. I don't want it to do 0-6 in less than 8 seconds. I don't want it to sync with my phone or be able to redundantly do all the things my phone already does.
Dacia Spring
E golf
Nissan leaf
Eqs 450+ 4matic hyperscreen michelin pilot sport s, carbon ceramics, with brabus bodykit, nappaleather interior, max spec
That'll never happen again because an alarm needs to have power windows power door locks.
An insurance companies will never insure a car that doesn't have at least a rudimentary anti-theft system
My understanding for why everything becomes heavy crossovers is this. It is more comfortable to get in and out of crossovers than lower cars, and cars have to be heavier to get 5 star crash-ratings for their collisions with enormous pickup trucks.
Congratulations!
Finally someone that really speaks what people should hear about the hypocrisy of the 2000's car buyers.
All car buyers are hypocrites or just the ones who want a car like this?
The Japanese found out the hard way in the 90s that most people don't buy new and those that do weren't buying their cars, in America mainly, this saw them pivot from the 90s simple cars to add more "features" as that's how you sell to American car owners and now this has over taken the whole market. The type of person that buys new buys it for it being "better" than older cars so "features" became the way of doing this. Plus Features justified higher prices as cars became cheaper to build. The car he describes isn't profitable as you are competing for the type of customer who would buy a 10-20 year old car and doesn't want to buy new. This may change in 10 years when the last of the 90s cars become unaffordable and collectable but at least until then they likely won't sell
And also the 90's car buyers. Except in the US global warming was a thing at that time and the trend was big 4x4 cars and monospaces.
This kind of concept is kinda why I ended up buying a shitty hyundai accent last time I went car shopping. Very few bells and whistles, just four doors and 50mpg. The downside is that because it's meant to be a cheap car, the engineering and materials are cheap. The steering rack is about as robust as a paper bag and it broke going over a pothole at 25mph. They only seem to make these kinds of no-frills cars for cheap people with cheap expectations, so the standards are bottom-of-the-barrel. I think a lot of people want to be able to buck this trend, but what options do they have? There's very little middle-ground. It's either disposable or gargantuan.
"Everyone is stupid except me."
-You
That was brilliant. I am a design engineer, my girlfriend has an Aygo. That car has done an average fuel economy of 73mpg over a two year period. I am very impressed, especially as it is driven fast. I have a convertible mini Cooper. Also super economical. You have to drive this car fast.
May 1975 Cadillac got approximately 6 mi to the gallon, if I threw a bunch of friends in & drove "funly"
73mpg is like 3,55lt/100km (gazoline), Its brother, the Citroen C1 manages under 3lt/100km (the diesel-version), so, nearly 10% less... Or 5€/100km...
I'm 100% with you. Btw: I think another problem is that we buy cars (or lease them for 3 years). So 99% of the time we need a simple little car for work - but when we buy a car we think about the 1% of other times. Therefore 150PS is not enough, two seats it's not enough, 130 Vmax is not enough, 450 liter space is not enough.
The dumbest part really is that the 1% of times is not about any of that. A car is to get you places, after all, and the 1% of times is about worse roads. If people were actually thinking about the 1% of times, they'd be buying stuff with actual offroad capabilities.
There was a reason the TOYOTA Corolla was the world's best selling car for years.
it's the best selling car ever.
But not in America. That title goes to the Ford F-150
@@mrsoisauce9017Emphasis on the world.
@@mrsoisauce9017the world isn't America
It's not.
Let's take a look at the obligatory insurance in case of a accident: cars that weigh like two tons will just crush a 900 kilo Skoda, shouldn't they have to pay significantly more for excess weight?
First gen Audi Q7 was a good example. Especially on a side impact - Q7 crashing into another cars side - it could easily impale that car on its longitudinal main beams because the front bumper was way too weak for the cars weight. And at least in Ger these cars are stupid expensive to ensure as accidents like these ended with people sitting in the other car dying way too often.
The most common type of car accident is running off the road and hitting something. Statistics say that in such a situation you're safer in a big car. The vast majority of accidents where cars collide with other cars are low speed fender benders, where the difference in size and weight isn't very important.
Bigger and more powerful cars already have higher insurance premiums.
*THAT IS WHAT I WANT* Small - light - basic - manual everything - 3cyl or electric - €10,000
Lada Granta
Car companies are more interested in the stock price than pushing practical solutions to consumers. An electric car that weighs 6000 lbs and goes 0-60 in 2 seconds makes me gag.
Uber-unrational amount of torque allows this.
ah yes 6k pounds
so around 6k dollars ? not that expensive
@@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme 6000 livres, c'est 7150 dollars à la louche, mais là, on parle du poids en livre (soit 450gr environ), et non de la livre sterling, qui est la monnaie britannique !
and then the also claim to be saving the planet!
@@dodenmanniskan8846 i'm aware of that since he said weighs
donc pèse donc je me doutais bien qu'il parlait de poid/masse mais c'est sympa so thank you anyways
I currently live in a rural area, and drive a 10 year old Ford Transit, with a 100 hp diesel engine. I can't overstate to convenience of being able to transport just about anything, and do my own maintenance. No bells and whistles, but reliable and simple.
me with my v40 from 2004
@@adminadminson3147 aww, what a great vehicle to keep running. I had an 05 Skoda Fabia estate for years, but sadly because the chassis had no rustproofing it didn't last quite as long.
@@DrMattBug Was my second car and I think i'm only ever going to buy estates from now on, fallen in love with the thing. something magical about having all that space in the back and I can't stand SUVs unless I was actually going off-road, which I'm not anytime soon haha
estates are, in my opinion, the best configuration for a primary car. Spent countless weekends sleeping on an air mattress in the back of ours. Magic!
Fully with you on this. I remember my best car - Mitsubishi Colt, 1.2l engine, MT, fwd. Nothing failed during 4 years that I owned it. Want another one after your video.
Hear hear!
My wife had an aygo. Loved driving it. Took it all over Scotland and, like you say, it didn't break. Mpg was magical. You make a very valid point and, it's all down to profit isn't it!
You are speaking straight from my heart. Each and every word. Finally someone who gets it. Amazing work with this video, as always.
thanks so much ! these views you put up makes extreme sense. if you run for president of the entire car industry. I will vote for you !
part of why I love my daily driver, manual door locks, manual windows, manual transmission, no ABS, no traction control, and it does exactly what I need it to do, and very reliably.
Except for the transmission, those are all things modern cars have that have almost no reliability issues, you're just missing out on convenience and safety. It gets old imo.
@@TheFPSPower I recall someone in a Tesla or some such EV being locked inside their car because the battery had died, since the door locks were just switches to an electric motor, they wouldn't function, locking her inside. Instead of a metal rod attached to the door lock, companies will opt to save a fraction of a penny with a bit of wiring and a switch. Something also tells me you haven't gone through the headache of replacing a window motor or regulator... These are things I never have to deal with on my daily. Plus learning to actually drive without relying on ABS or traction control forces you to have proper pedal control, which makes a better driver. fewer systems to fail generally means less failures. If people want such features, I say let them have those things, but the options for newer vehicles for people like me that don't want those features are zero.
@@SaxaphoneMan42 Tesla is an outlier because they dont use the door lever as the redundant physical opener, others do not do this. Power door locks does not have to mean you get locked out, that's just bad design.
I have replaced a Window motor actually, it's not that hard, just pop it out and pop the new one in and I know its VERY hard to fix manual window levers, they are not actually more reliable or easier to fix, sorry to tell you.
ABS is one of those things you THINK makes you a better driver until you have a sudden emergency and your monkey brain has no time to think "pedal control" and you just slam the brakes and just keep sliding. Ask me how I know, I drove without ABS for years and nearly shit myself when someone suddenly pulled in front of me and the wheels just locked up.
Easy to talk when you have time to think, when you don't you'll wish you had ABS, it has saved me from a very bad situation with a heavy truck on a road with a fuel spill downhill.
Traction control I dont give a shit about, but I don't live in snow climates where they are essential.
I'll take ABS and traction control, because ABS adds safety and if it fails you still have normal brakes, and traction control is good if you have tons of power, also because safety. That's not to say I haven't had a completely "analog" car as a daily driver and liked it.
@@samiraperi467 I mean there's nothing wrong with a person for wanting those things, personally though, if it were optional, I would go without it. IMO if you can't control the power of a vehicle, you shouldn't be driving it, with or without added safety devices.
in terms of simplicity, cars like said in the video topic, have been around for quite a while now, dacia, once you sit in it, you instantly understand that it's just a car, that works. james may would be proud reading this, also possibly anyone working for dacia
nah... that was few years ago. not any more. now they got all flashy and all. 20+ years ago it was the same with škoda.
Apparently these exist for most cars, even bmws with wind up windows in Germany. It just needs to be more widespread
Oh no...anyway last week we have checked out the new Maserati....
Well, when I sat in 2019 Dacia Logan I immediately wanted to quit due to how uncomfortable it is. And my daily was an old beaten Skoda Octavia mk1 in base trim with manual everything except steering and no A/C. But maybe a more ergonomic seat would make that Dacia more appealing.
Dacia is dead. The Spring is insanely expensive and the Duster is now horribly bloated with "features". The upcoming Bigster will be worse. The best simplest cars today are Hyundai i10 and Kia Picanto. A base model i30 or Ceed for €20k is also great.
This channel is not a typical automative enthusiast one. It' s a gem! I like when you express your thoughts about all these topics around us. Couldn't' t agree more with you!
another great video. if you would work at a university, I would go there just because you are there.
Colin Chapman of Lotus quotes:
Simplify, then add lightness.
Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere.
🙋 Ummmm ackshully, removing weight doesn't actually help your top speed all that much, since top speed is just a function of aero + a bit of rolling resistance vs horsepower.
But your point is generally correct. Dropping weight makes the car more responsive which generally helps "lap time" more than just adding more speed to the straights.
Even I couldn't describe what's in my mind better. Teşekkürler.
Thanks for this one, mr. D4a. I am a customer without a product. That's why I still drive my 86 aw11 mr2. Nobody makes a product that is small and simple anymore. And it really makes me sad.
Mitsubishi mirage and dacia duster: am i a joke to you?
@@chiefdenis Dacia Duster is not simple.
@@johnnyblue4799 if that's not simple enough for you, there's also the suzuki alto and suzuki spresso for roughly 5k dollars
@@chiefdenisThe Dacia Duster wasn't simple before and now it is absolutely ruined with how bloated it is. The best simple vehicles are Hyundai i10, base model i20, base model i30 and Land Cruiser 70 Series (that is not efficient though and in most markets bloated with crap sadly).
@@chiefdenis This is america. We dont get dacias. And I dont even know where the nearest mitsu dealership is.
We need a Open Hardware car. Build from the community, for the community.
Parts that can be easily 3d printed, not mirrored parts (mirrors, lights, glasses, door handles etc) for cutting the production cost down. Open hardware means that you can have free access on technical documentation, CAD files, every information you need and improve the current design, make it better for everyone.
Companies goal, is to make more money. Nothing more.
Great video!!!
We really need to make a push with legislation for more transparency. Cars are the biggest surveillance tools there are and they are the least private place you could possible be. Carmakers secretly take all your data and sell them.
Right to repair, open source, no more lies.
I love this idea. I would love to buy the plans for an old engine to bring back and produce. Which - non interference, maybe gear timing like the old Volvos.
... Wasn't that what the bad guy from WW2 tried to do with VW?
Interesting idea! I could see it work out for interior parts, software and other small bits of the car, but how could the community build around more complex parts such as engine block and subframe?
The same way it works in open source software. There are a lot of people working in companies who have a lot of experience who contribute for free to open source.
I drive a Suzuki swift sport. 150hp and 970kg. No special features, manual, no noise isulation..... but its fun :)
Even a Kid Car
Indian version is less than 900 kg and Indian version is highly unsafe
@@GreenDriveIndiaYes I've heard of many cars that have fewer structural elements in emerging markets which sucks because they also have worse infrastructure so the consequences of an accident are graver.
@@GreenDriveIndia True, but first and second gen Swift are still worth owning.
So glad to see you have over 1 million subscribers! You are such a great teacher! I’ve been following you for a number of years now. I’ve learned so much thank you thank you thank you.
D4A, I've been a subscriber for a long while and this is for sure a different style of video from you... I like it! I couldn't help but laugh when I realized that this was less of a "Why is X, Here is the answer." style that you so well produce, but rather it was a well reasoned absolute rant of a video. Thank you.
This is why i love this channel you present the facts in a clear and understandable way and as a mechanic whos been in this industry for almost 15 years i agree
The second generation Citroen C1 actually fits this description excellently. It weighs 800 something kg, has a microscopic engine, nothing in the interior other than the true basics. It still has A/C, Bluetooth and everything you'd ever need, but it was cheap to buy new and even cheaper to run. It suffers from being not well engineered, the engine is shit, the gearbox is shit, the steering is shit. But nonetheless it remains a great car that can do anything you ask it to.
Well, the C1 is the the exact same car as the Aygo, just with a Toyota badge.
@@utharaptortrex Also the same as the Peugeot 108
Sorry but I disagree, that engine is a very good engine, and the steering is nice, maybe you have driven a car with a devious past.
...aaaaaand is discontinued ... Just like its brother, the Aygo...
I used to work for a car leasing company who managed the fleet for g4s (UK) and they bought thousands of c1s. Straight from the factory not through a dealer and they got them brand new for less than 4k! The driver's did write them off a lot though haha.
Thanks!
I still have an Aygo, only thing I miss is the glove compartment, I never had seen a car without one until I got the Aygo, but for everything I need in a car, it works.
The fiat panda 750 and 1000 (I have seen only those 2 in real life) had an aluminium-tube across the cockpit (knee-high from the left-door-hinge to the right-door-hinge), and a piece of textile looped around it, reaching forwards to the cockpit, textile was in excess, so that its middle-of-the-front-to-back-distance hung downwards by gravity... That was essentially a very long shelf, built like a beach-saiz-long...
#1 reason (at least in the US) I think we don't have smaller cars is - insurance and licensing.
Small simple car for going to/from work, and a larger nicer one for road trips. Makes sense - except you have to pay for both insurance and licensing 24/7 for all of these vehicles even though a person can only drive one at a time. So we trade higher fuel costs (which is fairly cheap compared to Europe) for one large vehicle for a lower overall TCO. Reform licensing and insurance billing, and that could change.
Right, my response to his confusion on the popularity of crossovers is safety, both in terms of federal requirements and the preference of car buyers to sit higher and feel less liable to die in a collision. The safety of making cars bulkier is kind of dumb, but the auto makes tried to fight it and American consumers at large didn't care.
This is only half true. For a single household yes, but how many single households have more than 1 car? Households with multiple people having only one car be allowed to drive at a time is silly.
In Austria here we can have one license plate for multiple cars and we pay the tax and insurance of the most expensive one. It kinda sucks when you have a 65 hp car for commuting and a 300 hp sports car but oh well that's Europe.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 it sucks that you don't have to pay the insurance on the 65hp car?
@@wasw It sucks that you have to pay the 300 hp insurance when driving the 65 hp car.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 But in other countries if you use both you have to pay insurance for both, so you have it better.
bro when you said “we put unnecessary things in to our cars.”, i paused the video and thought some things myself and the things that came up to my mind was exactly the things you just named, even the order was the same :D. Insane!
The perfect citycar you theoriced is in my point of view a renault twingo mk1 , verly lightweight, simple in desing and motorization , very compact, measuring only 3,4m and fairly aerodinamic. It can make the back seats lay flat so its a very competent in carrying things from one place to another and it can even be converted to a bed.
He already told u what car it was, the toyota aygo
@@chiefdenisFirst generation Twingo is the best mini/city car ever designed. You need to drive or ride one to understand just how much interior room they've managed to get from such a small chasis.
The original VW Up was also much the same and was a joy to drive with some minor modifications.
@@BobSaint that twingo is very impressive in terms of visibility. I can only tell by my own experience, but only an upper class mercedes could reach that kind of visibility. A nice car to drive.
@@CombustiveVideo Up! is a very good mini/city car, just like Lupo before it, but not on the same level as Twingo.
Twingos rear seat, which could be moved almost all the way up to the rear door, makes seating for 4 tall people (like 195cm) a comfortable experience.
Mk1 Fiat Panda before the first or second restyle (not sure right now) had the "bed" option too. It's also a great little car, and 4X4 by Steyr models are ridiculously priced for years now.
90s Fiat Cinquecento was also a great and fun mini. Too bad it didn't get the F.I.R.E. engines Panda had in the time.
There's also a kind of forgotten mini - VW Polo Mk2, the "Breadvan". It's a small city car, but with extremely practical load space when rear seats are put down or removed.
I beleive that the last really great city car was Toyota iQ.
Edit: There is also a LOT of great Japanese small and KEI cars, but I'm sticking to European market only.
Sadly, EU made it impossible for makers to justify producing such vehicles - for uknown reasons, the most strict anti-polution laws were left for the smallest and lightest cars. Idiocracy.
Admittedly a Japan-exclusive, but I'd argue the Daihatsu Mira e:S is pretty much that:
-starts at 860.000 Yen inc. VAT (about 4.950 Euros 5.300 Dollars)
-weighs in at 650 kg
-gets 4l/100km WLTC
-luxury features are limited to aircon, power steering, power windows, and a 2DIN slot for a headunit of your choice
Why does a small light car need powersteering? Power windows? Reach over and wind them down it's small enough.
I drive a Daihatsu Cuore L276 (mira) from 2008. Sadly you cant get newer Daiahtsu's anymore here, i would love the have a newer one.
@@SuperKoe When they made a one off car for crash testing with thicker steel and additional bracing welded into it you have to wonder how safe the production ones were.
Looks quite similar to the Maruti 800, the most popular car in India in the 90s. Tiny, light, cheerful car.
power windows are lighter cheaper and more convenient
La verdad que tus videos como siempre me encantan, estoy estudiando mi anteúltimo año de Ingeniería en Industria automotriz y la verdad que la idea de la que hablás está hace mucho tiempo rondando en mi cabeza. Me encanto como hiciste la conexión entre un Koenigsegg Jesko y un auto barato que cualquier universitario en cualquier país tercermundista como el mío podría comprar. Sos de los mejores creadores de contenido sobre autos en la actualidad, seguí así. Saludos desde Argentina.
I COMPLETELY agree with you on the small, light and simple vehicle. We are finally allowed to get the Japanese kei cars here in the states and they have become very popular, and now some states are trying to ban them because they see them as a threat!
Threat to profit margins!!!
Fight back against these bans!!! Enough is enough of anti constitutional bans in favor of overpriced, overweight, over (and somehow at the same time under) engineered crap, please if you have a gram of influence spread the word.
If you can, buy cars like fleet cars (those that are bought in bulk for taxis, cop cars and such, like Crown Vics back in the day), those usually have way less features and are far simpler and should be a bit cheaper, not just to buy but to maintain because there are more 2nd hand parts.
Preach. The world needs to hear this
Magnificent piece of work, I whish I could upvote your videos more than once.
This whole "SUPERSIZE EVERYTHING and CHARGE A SHIT TON OF MONEY for no real improvements" trend has RUINED EVERYTHING.
But alas, what once was, shall never be again.
Common sense and simple engineering are concepts lost by now.
Keep spreading the knowledge, I'll keep watching.
One of my fave cars was my little Peugeot 205XS that had an aluminium block and weighed only 857kg, no power steering, no abs, no traction control and a twin choke carb. I had it tuned to 115 bhp and it was so much fun to drive.
I still have Peugeot 405 with 1.9l, around 120hp. Damn thing have power steering, electric front windows, 2 airbags and AC and still weighs around 1130kg and that's very large car. Today's VW Polo weights 1400+ kg and it's ~10cm narrower and 25cm shorter than 405 and have 1.0l engine. I don't want to know what have they done to that car to be so heavy.
Fun fact that Peugeot is faster and more agile than most of today's B and C cars that have 150+ HP
Not having ABS that weights probably 100 grams and is chip is nonsense... AC and ABS is a must...
@@captainuki YES, only mandatory equipment if you ask me is ABS, (no ASR, ESP etc, in winter they are making more problems than benefits) AC, heated outside mirrors (it's pain in the ass to drive without heated mirrors during foggy winter days or when snow is falling, i end up breaking ice every 10-20 minutes), power steering (20-30kgs for that is reasonable) and good stereo with BT ability for calls and streaming music, Airbags and that's it.
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So everything it didn't need was put in a shed? Thus it was *sheded.*
Makes sense.
Thanks for another interesting video.
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English is probably his third language but go ahead and make fun. 😅
@@toddsmith8608 Was I making fun?
The video had "sheded" written in the video with question marks. I was pointing out how sheded could be the right word after all.
You call it making fun, I call it being playful.
My first car: A 1962 Morris Mascot, approx. 18km/liter.
My second car: A Ford Taunus 2.0 V6, 1075 kg, 13km/liter.
I'm also enjoyning my Taunus TC1, but the ones we've got in Argentina have a 4 cyl 2.3 Pinto engine. Just the engine and me, no power steering, no A/C, no unnecessary crap. Oh and good old VERY confortable seats, praised by anyone who drives new cars and get to sit on it.
Great video! As an automotive engineering student I have to say this is my favourite youtube channel and I think this is my new favourite video of this channel. Keep it up!!
Some day you might make his points int reality
Yo by the end of this year i’ll have to choose between mechanical and automotive engineering, and i have no clue what to pick, can you give me some pieces of advice, or just your experience v
Take an MX5/Miata, extend the wheelbase just enough so it can seat 4 people, make it a hadtop/liftback so you can actually use the trunk and remove all electric windows, mirrors, seats, etc. I just need air conditioning, a radio and cruise control. That's it, perfect car.
A Mazda 3 hatchback with no power options then?
I doubt Mazda ever imagined how long the interest would last for the MX5. It has proved to be such a fantastic platform for what was mocked as just a well off hairdresser's car (to replace their Ford Capri).
I'll pass on the A/C and cruise control.
Cruise control can be done without but A/C is an absolute must in many areas.
@toddsmith8608 " oh well now I need a backup camera " .....
That's my favourite of your videos so far. I think I agree with every point you make here. Thank you for making this point - hopefully more of these vehicles in the future (motorcycles too).
you described a motorcycle, absolute perfection for efficient transport. 200kgs, supercar performance, a tenth of the price etc. use a cheap old car for 3 winter months and a bike for the other 9, enjoy life
True up until you get a family
not so great in heavy rain and wind. not so great to carry a weeks worth of groceries. but i get you, just take the old car for these occasions, too :-)
@@Creyzooo for groceries a 125 scooter works perfectly in the city, try it out. like a honda pcx, it has huge underseat capacity. add a topbox, a backpack, maybe aliexpress hook for the handlebar to put on two shopping bags for balance... you can carry as much as a normal car almost. and park anywhere, ride with 2l/100km... use camping clothes and handlebar gloves for rain, everything is better than to be miserable stuck in traffic lights, there are solutions! :D
"A tenth of the price"?
That's funny.
@@Creyzooo As a biker I can say, If you need a machine to take only YOU somwhere which is like 90% of cases, bike is the best. Why carry 1700kg, a butload of fuel, a quazilion of gadgedts and gizmos, entire store of things that can go wrong, just to meet someone for a cup of coffe. Also as I guy who went camping with bike, you would be suprised how much a properly geared bike can carry
You simply rock, bro! Nothing less, nothing more!
I love how your accent is a perfect mix of English and American. The videos are awesome as always
Matt Farah from TST said it best. People in the US buy vehicles for the 110% use case. Meaning, people will buy a vehicle based on the POSSIBILITY that they MIGHT need to move a sofa one day. So, they buy a F150 or Tahoe. The US buys their cars based on what they WANT, not what they NEED.
or more likely, what their neighbour has.
Happens all the time with motorcycles. I always see people saying they want some kind of unicorn bike like it has to somehow win motocross races but also be comfortable cruising on a highway for days at a time.
Then you find out what they're actually doing and the only dirt they ever touch is a bit of gravel in the parking lot outside a bar.
I've got an '01 Dodge Dakota that's essentially the truck version of what he described. Dead simple, no larger than it needs to be, and stupidly useful (I've helped move family at least half a dozen times, and any time someone gets anything large the truck gets called on). Unfortunately, CAFE regulations mean that permissible emissions are largely determined by the size and weight of a vehicle, essentially killing off trucks like mine. Even the modern equivalents of the Ranger and Colorado are the size of full-size trucks from the late 90's and early 2000's, because it's easier for them to pass emissions at that size.
Yeah why not just rent a carriage if you need to move something big. Or just use roof racks like everyone without a tow hook. No need for a big truck 😅
Yet they complain about car prices. I think we all should focus on financial literacy and sound spending.
The US government killed small, fuel efficient trucks when they adopted CAFE standards. Today's Toyota Taccma is the size of a full sized F-150 from 20 years ago. I know, because I have one of each stting in my driiveway.
I just bought a Suzuki samurai SJ413. Tiny engine, zero electronics, basically a fuel efficient box that will go anywhere while taking abuse. Been enjoying how approachable maintaining and upgrading the thing is, it is a masterclass in how to make the most with the least
Absolutely agree 100%. Which is why I drive a 10-year-old Lotus Elise S. It has a 1.8 litre supercharged Toyota engine, the car weighs virtually nothing, costs very little to run and it's great fun!
That's my dream car.
Would love to own one some day
Perfect car for a single person. Some people actually want to be productive members of the human race and have families.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Productive? You think adding to the over population of this planet is PRODUCTIVE?! (And I'm not single).
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 I think you mean reproductive.
Glad to see so many engine heads here so early ❤
I feel you brother. I still drive a 2009 Peugeot 107 and I'm not planning to change it until it runs. The car runs perfectly, can be serviced by user and economic. Super fun to drive especially once it has been mapped and the air intake upgraded.
I agree, it’s a shame that simple cheap cars are not produced any more, or are discontinued. I’m sure many people would choose it but there is less profit in them so we are offered basically what manufacturers want us to buy. Regulations don’t help either, imposing more and more obligatory safety equipment whether we want or not.
You are a wise man thanks for another great video
I read somewhere from Autocar Data that the average weight of a car has increased by nearly half a metric ton since 2016. As an example a modern F250 Pickup weighs 75% more than a 1950s Ford F250 pickup but the max payload is basically the same... about 1300kg. Your argument for the Aygo has always been my argument for the Fiat Panda, same deal, simple, easy doesn't go wrong, everything is cheap, cost nothing to run, couldn't be easier to work on. Its also my argument for still using a 26 year old Transit van as my work vehicle, its simple, it doesn't go wrong, if it does, its easy and usually inexpensive to repair. Its not the fastest, its not as economical on deisel as a modern van but so far including some repairs and the price of the vehicle it has still cost me basically nothing by comparison to its modern equivalent and I guarantee you it'll outlive them as well. Its a simple, a little unrefined and unashamedly analogue work vehicle. And I guarantee you no 2024 model Transit can will still be firing on the button and doing solid days of work in 2050. Not one.
Your channel is *fkin AWESOME!*
Another reason it will never happen is the trend of planned obsolescence. How does it benefit a car company to make a car last a long time and be reliable during that time? They'll never take it in to get it fixed because it doesn't break, and won't buy a new one because it lasts so long.
Unless we pivot to "product as a service" but that has its issues as well
I love your philosophy. I am struggling with some mental health stuff but subject aside: "Less is more" are so important words for me.
Honestly, one of the craziest takeaways from this for me is that the Nevera is only 2 seconds slower *while weighing not much less than double* what the Jesko does.
Electric hypercars are going to be nuts if some really good battery technology ever comes along.
"the profit margins are small because you can't charge more for less"
Yes you can, if you put the right badge on the hood. Ask Porsche or Ferrari, the stripped-out track versions of their supercars are always more expensive than the ones with all the comfort features installed.
(This is a joke btw, I know those versions typically have more power and feature more expensive light-weight materials. And I'm not actually suggesting that cars with fewer features should cost more)
General Motors and Renault are infamous for that in South America. Grabbing Dacias, Vauxhalls and Opels, then giving them a Renault/Chevrolet branding, so they can charge more for them and make them recognizable is both hilarious, smart and infuriating.
If the memory serves me right, Porsche has paid extras that do nothing but remove features such as A/C for weight saving. I might be wrong, can't be bothered to check right now
@@sheeshulex I'm pretty sure the GT2RS comes without A/C as standard, or at least in older generations it did. But as for their normal cars, it's not true that they charge you for removing features. In fact, on a normal 911 or whatever I don't think you can even have standard equipment like A/C removed, at least not in their online configurator, but who knows if you were to call them about it...
Instead of putting in carbon fiber bucket seats just put a cloth seat with manual adjusments in it and you save the same weight and thousands of dollars.
I do miss the entry level cars with entry level prices we used to have. I’ve owned many cars and my favorites were the compacts, like Mazda3 and Corollas, like ones from 2007-2010. Easy to drive, easy to get in and out of, decent gas mileage, super easy to work on, and easy to add aftermarket electronics to. On top of that, when I was driving them, I wasn’t thinking of the car payment.
what are your thoughts on the dacia logan? it's around 1100 kg and has 70 HP
ICE is back baby!
ev superior
By the way pretty sick you have over 1 million subs now. I followed you when your channel had 12k lol.
Very well said. Too many hypocrites. I think people should ride motorcycles instead. Stop buying cars.
I think I’m more impressed by the 0-400 in the Jesko at 18.82 seconds versus the Rimac’s 21.32. But just as astonishingly, the Rimac seems to be quicker from 400-0 at 8.61 seconds versus 9.01 for the Jesko which is super surprising considering the weight difference between them.
Yes, Absolut is slow in deceleration, but Attack must be faster in it.
Gotta pick a poison 😅
Nevera has active aero that helps it decelerate quicker and it works especially good at very high speeds
All these replies don't counter in the fact that the rimac has regenerative braking going for it, it shouldve actually achieved more of a gap in braking performance vs the jesko. So one of the 2 is not performing to the max and im betting it the rimac. With the extra weight there is less brake performance due to tires reaching their limit faster. Unless it is a specially developed tire like on the chiron ss
@@str8xrippin Braking is traction limited so regen won't help, weight doesen't matter if the brakes are sized accordingly. Rimac probably has more downforce so it can brake harder at speed.
@@str8xrippinThe regen breaking doesn't add anything because the regular brakes can easily lock up the tires
Yes sir. That's why i drive a g1 insight. Lightest car on the road
Climate change is not about improving CO2, it's about creating massive new markets for expensive new things to market and buy, and pressuring the government to subsidize it.
Good evening mr. D4A ❤
A good evening to you too :)
Big fan of the rant! You tell 'em brother!
Virtually every heavy industry uses electric drive with a diesel generator, and every time the subject of passenger car efficiency comes up it's shocking that road cars have never adopted the same drivetrain.
Toyota hybrid ? Since the 90s.
Heavy industry typically go diesel-electric for the huge benefit of full torque starting at 0 RPM and great level of control over the power delivery. Really heavy things take an enormous amount of energy input just to begin moving. A diesel or petrol engine would have to be geared down a lot in order to keep the engine RPM in the ideal operating range for optimal torque which adds to the mechanical complexity, cost, weight, and general maintenance.
In passenger vehicles, diesel-electric or petrol-electric drivetrains could be used while removing the need for a transmission/transaxle. Why this isn't done, I'm not sure. It would not surprise me if the primary factor is the much higher cost of a generator, electric motor(s), and all of the electronics to run them properly. Could also just be that automotive manufacturers are just sticking to what they know. Could also be they don't want to impact their hybrid or EV models.
Chevy volt if you want one. Plus at higher speeds its still more effective to have a mechanical linkage.
Plus heavy industry doesn't have anywhere near the same regulations on emissions.
@@subsgob00m it would defeat the emissions goals (which are BS imo).
Much of train efficiencies come from both the lower rolling resistance of steel wheels on steel rails and the lower air resistance the train faces on a per-weight unit basis (Freight trucks would have to be drafting each other to get the latter advantage). This lets freight trains get efficiencies on the order of 300-500 mile-tons per gallon of diesel (basically 300-500 miles for each ton the train weighs on 1 gallon of diesel). My understanding is that for on road diesel trucks, this is usually less than 100 mile-tons per gallon of diesel, but I haven't found anything specific. Also, keep in mind that efficiency doesn't actually include regenerative braking that EVs have; most modern trains don't use it yet.
As a comparison, my 2016 Honda fit has a max curb weight of 2630lbs, or 1.3 tons, and a best fuel efficiency of 50 MPH when I've driven it on solely moving interstates, giving my car only 38.5 mile-tons per gallon of gasoline. Trains simply have the advantage in efficiency on anything on the roads any way you look at it. Converting all on-road vehicles to diesel-electric or gas-electric series hybrids won't cut it at all, especially since the drivetrain will likely further more energy losses in the motion->electricity->motion conversion, at least for highway driving. There may be an advantage with city driving with this drivetrain if it includes regenerative braking systems. But almost all car hybrids today are parallel hybrids which include a mechanism to send the engine power more directly to the wheels without going through the electric conversions.
For diesel-electric ships, I can't help with you there. Most trucks do not drive on water, last I checked, making a direct comparison trickier. :)
Looks like a Coyote motor. Very nice. I agree..Less is more. I drive an Ariel Atom..:)
Damn i love the Atom, i would like to own one in the future!
@@Skitungen Make one
That's because it is
Pretty much is. They even used the 4.6 blueprint for the ccx and ccr
You basically described my '97 Corolla. Gets the job done with no fuss. Even with 207k miles the engine still runs strong. I want to keep it on the road as long as I can.
Why are cars getting bigger and heavier? Because 90% of people only care about getting from point A to point B as luxuriously as possible
And impressing their neighbors
Yeah, people want luxury, they are willing to pay for it. I respect his opinion but it's not what the market wants
Low self esteem really
Keeping up with the Jones’s never stopped being a thing.
A good point I'm glad this video mentioned is that even though these cars are larger, they dont really offer any more interior space. A lot of it comes down to MPG and safety regulations. Larger cars are allowed to have lower MPG, but also a lot of the safety features people want (like side airbags) require lots of space in the parts of cars that used to be purely structural.
In China they already have these kind of cars. They are selling alot in the Chinese market.
Wuling Mini, Wuling Air EV and Geely Panda and many more.
THere is a video on YT called: "The City with millions of Cheap Chinese Micro EVs" Small simple and light Cars for people who want to go from A to B. They also have a festival dedicated for Mini cars.
What he wants is the "Volkswagen" of the 21st century. The problem is that it has to be build by a closed capital company centered on an ideal rather than the desire to make money. Essentially, the car has to be a gift.
No one ever appreciates that, cradle-to-grave, a small simple light ICE car will be MUCH more environmentally friendly than any electric crossover - let alone American SUV behemoths. Then consider road damage is proportional to the 4th power of mass, then consider how much parking area could be reduced, then consider safety and economy and traffic and maintenance...
Because it won't. Even a big EV will be "more green" than a small ice car after a few years of use.
@@SweBeach2023 How so? I've seen varied reports up to 150k kms for a "break even point" and an increasing number of papers recently put it at 100k +. And this is in an EQUIVALENT CASE. My amateur extrapolation is that a proper rudimentary lightweight ICE would either never be caught by the crossover EV or at a point far beyond their expected lifecycle
@@CountFisco Only if assuming a worst-case scenario in regard to production of car and electricity. In a best-case scenario it's more in the 10 000 - 20 000 km range before hitting break-even. And this doesn't even consider second-life uses for the battery.
Who is most responsible for for cars getting heavier and heavier? The nanny state. Airbags, lane departure warning, auto stopping, TPMS, backup cameras (which require a screen), the list goes on, and on, and on.
You're also right about the hypocrisy. 100%
concept and job of the state are important, but they are sell-outs to the industry... It´s the industry putting pressure and bribing/corrupting the politicians.
Such good points, love this video!
You just described the DACIA LOGAN principle....
We all know where it went... 🤦🏻♂️
NPC/boomer comment.
@@BratislavMetulskie LOL
first they made the baren logan, for something about 5K€ and now there is no dacia under 10 or 12k, fully bloated!
so yeah... if beeing a boomer is having eyes open... then...