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I could never bring myself to sign the blood card! I would never deny my child a treatment that could save their life. When I got sick those people were trying to convince me it was the devil that it was all in my head! I would be in field service and have to sit on the side of the road because I was about to pass out! Once I got so sick that I actually did pass out I finally went to the doctor. My hemoglobin was a 4! I had to have 2 transfusions had I continued to listen to those people I would be DEAD! They are obsessed with death so that you can be a martyr for the organization. Meanwhile your family is mourning you and those people are on to the next recruit! They always say their Light got brighter well so has medical science transfusions are very safe in this day and time that is a provision from Jehovah giving doctors the ability to save lives.
JT after 20 years out of the JW , I finally wrote a letter to the GB for them to remove my name from their list. I had that courage from watching your video and others. Thank you
Good video, JT! When the Watchtower Society deemed accepting certain fractions of blood to be a matter of conscience, it became clear to me that, if even one fraction of blood is a matter of individual conscience, then the entire matter of accepting blood or not is a matter of individual conscience. No organization or governing body is authorized to make a determination regarding the conscience of another Christian. Similarly, my father served a 5-year prison sentence during World War II, not for refusing to go to war, but for refusing to perform alternative service during wartime which the Watchtower had deemed to be a compromise of one's neutrality. In the mid-90s, when the Society deemed performing alternative service to be a matter of conscience, I asked my father how it felt to realize that he had gone to prison, not for loyalty to God, but for loyalty to imperfect men.
I myself, I am an eye witness to one of a young Jehovah"s Witnesses Elder and very loving married Man who died from these one of horrible false belief of NO blood transfusion of this Organization and left a very young wife and very little Children. He gave a talk on Saturday evening and he died the following week Monday night after he fainted at work. Our Creator is very sad to see such things happening through His Holy Name by false prophets. Thank you for this important point.
the quality and consistency of this channel is nothing short of impressive. only genuine love would motivate someone to spend so much of their personal time into helping others.
Since the Bible talked about blood from animals and not human blood, how does this relate to blood transfusions since blood transfusions uses human blood? Also, there were no life saving methods like a blood transfusion in Bible times and so how would Jesus have thought about a life-saving blood transfusion if they were available during his time?
Am an ex JW, and I remember I had been counseled to cut my long hair. and I asked them why do they illustrate Samuel with short hair when he was a Nazirite. Cutting their hair was prohibited. I also like the part when they had an illustration of Samson in their book. I think it was my book of bible stories- they used the picture of Victor Mature who did the Samson and Delilah movie. We went on and on about hair and I was prepared with what they would say about apostle Paul and nature and blah blah blah.But long story short. They lost the argument- and just say I have to follow The Faithful and Discreet Slave
@year1914 In many lands other than the US jw have beards. I saw many jw from other countries at a international convention with beards. Btw, Jesus had a beard, the founder of the Watchtower had a beard. So why it's different in the US that jw can't wear a beard? I dont think any minister of any religion should wear their beards growing out all over the place like you see today.
@year1914 Before I disassociated myself I saw a brother who was df he grew a beard. I saw him I didn't speak to him; I feel bad knowing that's my character to speak to any any everybody. I was indoctrinated then. When current jw's see ex-witness in pubic they say the person is mental disease. That's the craziest thing I ever heard.
@year1914 I didn't go to my judicial hearing. I felt like I was waiting to be sentence to jail for a crime. If DF cause people to lose their families and even commit suicide I highly oppose it.
@year1914 jesus was a jew and they didn't cut their hair people pick and choose what they want to follow your not suppose to eat pork you never heard about Jesus eating pork but yet Christian eat pork and first thing people bring up is jesus did away with laws my question is which laws because there are hundreds of them. When the bible was put together by Europeans they decided what should be in the bible and left out tons of other books and to me thats a lil suppect
Excellent discussion!! It's absolutely amazing how Watchtower tries to condemn a medical practice that wasn't even invented when the Bible was written!!!...Because of the organization's insistent meddling into the private medical affairs of it's members, many have sadly and needlessly lost their lives. This is a topic that cannot be overstressed!!!
Thank you for having brother Mark Martin on your channel. I always wondered where he was. I only saw his two videos from a long time ago. And i really enjoy his logic.
We are saved by the blood of CHRIST.. Abstain from blood..but animal blood not human blood.. "A pet should NOT be given blood transfusion" Watchtower February 15th, 1964, page 127. Blood eating 1st Samuel 14:32-35..
Unless the blood is poured out there is not forgiveness of sin. That being said, did not David eat the bread of the temple, which was not lawful for him to eat? And also Jesus asked the Pharisees, who of you would not pull his son or animal out of a well on the sabbath?! Nevertheless, Wisdom is proven righteous by its works.
#DELILAHROSESILVANUS HI! OY!!! They're even dictating their laws to pets?!?! I don't think so! It needs to be established that BLOOD, taken into the CIRCULATORY SYSTEM is *NOT* EATING blood because digestion is NOT part of the circulatory process. When it talks about ABSTANING from Blood, it means from EATING blood. Animal or human. But blood transfusions do not, Not *NOT* involve EATING blood. The eight goons in WT headquarters are NO MORE qualified to give medical advice than I am to give legal advice.
@@jsilvanus240 I believe you. It's just sad that WT disciples don't understand the distinction between DIETARY law and I guess you could call it and medical law. I asked a Rabbi sometime back about how the Jewish people approach the blood issue, pertaining to transfusions, and he told me that the law on EATING blood is a DIETARY law and does NOT prevent Jewish people, or anyone else, with the good sense God gave a head of lettuce, from taking a blood transfusion, or donating blood. It's tragic that so many people take their medical advice from morons who aren't qualified to dispense bandaids, let alone life or death medical counsel.
In 1979 I denied the Blood when have a c-section. I truly believe that I was taking a stand for God, Thanks to God I live, even refusing after the Doctor continue to trying to tell me I would died. Well very disappointed to know that now JW is allowed to take a fraction of Blood. Please explain how you can fraction or proportion Blood. How many people have the organization took the lives of people by making rules to control ones thinking. No Elder can explained why the change, of proportion verse prohibit the taking of Blood. Do you think they're tired of killing people.
Oh my word!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾thank you. That is was the most beneficial video 🙏🙏🙏 Thank you. Human blood is an organ, when added to your body it is used as an organ. It is not digested. Taken blood via the vein is not digestion. Wow how did miss that 🤔🤔🤔🤔 my mom nearly died in child birth in 1970, because she and my dad refused blood. Shake my head
A side thought on the blood topic,.....Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to have certain blood fractions, however, are they allowed to give blood? From what I understand, doesn't it take a lot more blood to get the fractions needed? What a mess!!! I guess little by little they will allow all the fractions, therefore, in time, the whole blood.
Well stated. That is the most important point to remember is the blood issue was a DIETARY and DIGESTION law, much similar to today where the FDA puts information out and mandates warning labels on meat to warn of the dangers of undercooked meat which has blood in it until it is cooked well done even after being bleed initially. So Acts 15:20, 28, 29 which was always cited and quoted on all those DPA's and "no blood" "medical" "legal" cards was likewise solely for a dietary and digestive health issue as Paul concluded "good health to you!" in that scripture. It has nothing to do with medical IV blood transfusions. I used to believe that "Reasoning" book illustration also. How misled, bamboozled and hoodwinked we all were by this blood doctrine and what is appalling is how blood guilty the Jehovah's Witness head honcho policymakers and enforcers are for the thousands that have needlessly died when their lives could have been saved in an emergency or last resort even via a medical IV blood transfusion.
Ray Franz made a point. If at the extreme time, at the time of life and death, you need to drink blood to keep yourself alive like because there is no water/liquid except blood for another 100 miles or for another 10 days for whatever reason, are you going to drink it? Are you going to keep not drinking the blood principal or keep yourself alive by drinking the blood? Ray Franz really made a point, or Eric Wilson, both, anyway, whatever, blood after all is just the symbol, keeping the symbol of life by sacrificing life, it's just not the way it should be. I guess you all know already after all.
I am so happy that the witneses changed their organs transplant doctrine. The God of the Bible never said nothing against human sharing flesh, bone or blood. Contrary to that in the Bible the first example of organ sharing appears in Genesis 2:21-23. From an organ of Adan, a rib, God made a woman, Eve. More than of an example of organ sharing is bigger, clonation. From Adan blood, flesh, bone. Eve. If a organ used just for balance was used to create other human being, how important are the vital organs and fluids as blood. That is Old Testament. In the New Testament the Apostle Paul set the base for the eye transplant, abiding the organ and blood sharing. Galatian 4:15. I do not know why the watchtower was so permissive with suffering, pain, sickness and death forbidding in a time the organ transplant and now the blood issue. Knowing the Bible. The God of the Bible was clear in that matter. Now the watchtowet allows the use of blood fractions. This means that new changes are coming. May be they are waiting for a new, brigther and bigger light. Please, beware of the light that is just a darkness. Mathew 6:22-23. Be welcome organs tranplant and be welcome blood transfusions. Peace to all.
I'm trying to catch up on all of your previous videos as I've only been free of Watchtower a couple of months now. I've had 5 operations without any blood transfusion. I'm appalled at how the Watchtower governing body fakers, use their supposed knowledge, to teach us. I had a colonoscopy and just before I went under, the doctor made me sign a waiver about blood transfusions. I was mad at him because he brought it up at the last minute before my lights went out. I'm so glad that you differentiate the 'church and state' dilemma about JW teachings. You make it quite clear that they are re-writing the bible. Also, when the blood fractions sheet came out in the KM, I was totally confused by it. I haven't had a 'blood card' filled out for many years now. I thought it was a waste of my time. Watchtower always gets us to go on wild goose chases to waste our time so that we don't think for ourselves. Most JWs are lazy students anyways. Only ones who really want truth will find it. Thanks for all of your videos, my dear, REAL brothers and sisters.
Good video! The bible was talking about injesting Animal blood because the disrespect of life! And remember IT WAS NOT punishable by death! Then Jesus taught that we should regard the principle of "life" over "law"! So life out weighs the symbol of life! Then to now understand that the injestion process cannot be compared to the infusion process when it comes to food/alchohol/ blood. I love that we can use our minds for reason and not just be shut into a dogmatic box
Knowledge is what you've shared with Us in the Past n Future n how we Choose to use it is our Choice... Unfortunately "JW" members is so OLD SCHOOL even when I pointed out the Flip Flop "GB" Mentality my Mother, Sister n Brother is like Ostriches with they're Head in the Ground it makes me Sad knowing that today they still Carry the "No Blood Card" as if it is a Badge of Honor ....😔
Excellent video. Animal blood is never pointed out in these scriptures. I just dealt with this and almost lost my life after refusing to take blood when i was put in ICU 3 times. Would love to share my story. One more point: blood transfusions are a relatively new technology. Taking the wrong blood type is deadly and contaminated blood used to be a huge problem. Taking blood is now safer and more precise than ever. Ironically i found out later because i had actually taken blood factions i would not have been violating the society's new and improved position on the blood issue. CRAZY!!!!
That poster who wrote that he was in court, begging for his life when his parents refused to let him take a blood transfusion. And another poster who admitted that his mother would have let him die! WHY? Because a group of men SAID that God said.... OY! I like the poster who wrote that either God is lying or the GoBo are NOT speaking for God in the first place. But they ARE speaking for someone else. See John 10:10 The *THIEF* is summed up PERFECTLY by WT actions where the family is concerned.
are there any scientific/ medical links where they talk about blood being an organ?? I can't find anything. I did find someone saying it's more like tissue and not an organ.. Would really be helpful if anyone can share!
There was some mention about it being and organ and they backed up off that since it created a problem once they stated to allow organ transplants Once you tell one lie you got to tell another to Kinda make things work I can check for you to see where they mentioned that Also Check out the group of elders from the Liaison committee who run the site on blood AJWRB.org Is a good resource to start with
How many people have left he recently? I have read this and listened to that. Does anyone have the data? I can't believe after all this info there are still so many left
If a doctor said abstain from alcohol, would that mean to a Jehovah's witness that a person couldn't use a lotion or cream that contains alcohol, or rubbing alcohol, or any products that are absorbed by the body which contain alcohol? If they can concede that abstaining does not always mean hundred percent abstinence in its purest forum, they have to question whether God was talking about blood transfusions. And I believe the JW's prohibit donating blood, but it's okay to receive the fractions that were based on donations? How is it possible for them to receive a life saving medical procedure thanks to worldly people, that they themselves aren't permitted to do?
I'm not taking sides on this issue, but one point that I would like to make is: There is no way to know if a person who died after refusing a transfusion would have lived had they gotten one. It's unknowable.
What i don't understand is why people the question the fact that they call themselves an "organization" since when was god an organization sounds more like a business governing body and yet nobody stop to question this
It's a bit confusing, He says that blood through the veins is NOT feeding and then he sites the W 51 as an illustration, but that says that administering the transfusion through the veins IS feeding. So why use this as an illustration.
The problem is that parents are the only liable for their children's lives, that's an excess of interpretation, overinterpretation and an excess of authority, disresponsable abuse of authority
Austin Ciminillo after 30 years of arguing with folks over whether Jesus died on a LIGHT POLE or Telephone pole we have come to better appreciate the difference between being spiritual and being religious
Austin Ciminillo. O I'm sorry . Since leaving the jw belief system we really have not had any interest in religious belief systems Some folks leave and join another church Some leave and become atheist IT varies from person to person. For us spirituality and "religion" are not the same. We have found that for us we rather have QUESTIONS that we can't answer than ANSWERS WE CANT QUESTION I think the watchtower was right when they said. Religion is a snare and a racket Just my 2 JT
Ok I'm not religious but did I miss something? Those scriptures clearly said to abstain from blood. Doesn't that mean not take it any form if you're Christian?
The context is very important to consider. The eating of blood as a show of respect for what it represents (life), is what was forbidden. This is the only way they would have understood this. Transfusing is using blood exactly where it is meant to be used. It is in no way "eating". If that was the case a Since JWs allow organ transplants, that means they are cannibals?
Am I right in saying lactating mothers produce milk from their own blood? This would apply, of course, to cows. "Whatsoever enters the body does not defile a man" said Jesus. Otherwise, if we are going to observe Old Testament ordinances (as opposed to morals) then let's honor them all.
What has been surprising to the medical profession is that when ( people)..jws have been resolute in sticking to their stand of avoiding use of blood and as a result their hemoglobin level had gone very low ( doctors consider the level 8 - 10 to be the threshold ) - all the way down to 2, people have recovered health. One could rightly the threshold and consider it as irrelevant therefore - as it is not as previously believed. If one allows the body to use what it has..and add to it ones will to live - which seems to work well somehow, - even using simple saline solution ( which is inexpensive and requires no testing for diseases etc ) which makes fluid available as a blood expander , this is what has been proven most beneficial . I lmagine the heart needs sufficient fluid basically to keep it pumping...lm no expert, but when lve come across pumps that have run dry , even they sieze up , in a short space of time. Wishing you All the best. Those occasions where sadly people have lost their battle against cancer and other grave maladies, the God of the bible , has the ability to bring back these ..to re animate them in what is termed " the ressurection ". Isn't that a wondrous hope ?!! Just think of the tears of joy we'll then gladly cry...rejoicing like we've never known before, will overtake any grief we felt at loss. !!!! As the author of life itself , This powerful Being , who CANNOT LIE, (perhaps the only being that cannot lie in the universe/ existence - scripture doesn't include any one else in that statement) , has said it is what will happen. The name He had given for humans to use forever, basically means : "whatever I say lm going to do - is as good as done" . That's the way Moses of old understood His name to mean , and he learned through his dealings with the Almighty, that this was so , even as did mighty Pharaoh (Sorry..lve gone into poetry mode) There was no mysterious hidden code . How to please God, jesus came to earth, and showed He never believed that the Earth would be allowed explode..no The message from God is : we reap what we sow. & To have faith in the kingdom hope, tho men are lost in darkness and blindly grope, ignoring God's word made readily available to the world , but God knew there be some who would treasure his words like a priceless pearl And for it , would willingly exchange everything in Church, they'd learned. For truth is what they'd searched ..and wherever that took them , that came first.
Hi guys if Acts 15 was referring back to the law covenant for Jews. It was related to animal blood and some satanic pagan rituals and maybe some old medical drinking. Not modern medical uses as your bro related. What was the consequence for a Jew of eating the animal blood ie unbled animal etc. Was it DEATH??? Were they cut off from community?? Or were they unclean for a period of time then back to normal.?? As Peter was to eat any food made clean with thanks being given to Jah. Wasnt that a shadow for Christians??. Not sure if you covered those points earlier. Let me know and i will watch. Love to you all.
Blood is live, that must mean : You shall not kill . Blood is live just in a Body . God‘ s law is , You shall not kill. Sixht commandment. Paul said : God‘s law is the truth and fully aware. God‘ law said the truth. Is not about animal Blood or human Blood is about live . Nobody can to live without blood , is necessary for Body . Blood is precious just in the Body , not outside.
The prohibition that God made regarding the use of blood started with Noah. However, the issue of respecting blood was likely tied up with Cain and Abel too.. wherein God showed he favoured the sacrifice that was made by Abel. I am testimony to the fact that blood is not the life saver that it has been thought to be. Doctors consider it to be the Gold standard to avoid using blood transfusions. . It has been a journey for some to realise the wisdom and truthfulness of God's command laid upon mankind. What has often gone ignored ate the millions who upon receiving blood transfusions, go into shock and die on the operating table..and whose deaths from taking blood transfusions are not counted as being due to that / included in the statistics . After the older men in Jerusalem made the decree regarding fornication and the taking/abstention of blood which included eating /consuming meat from animals that has not been properly bled , the letter was passed on to Christians in all of the congregations.They would have had to consider the historical stance , if any , that God had made in making that decision - nor how men felt in seeking to please God. As my father once said to me.."It's just another of God's Laws that men choose to ignore "....God's law says do not murder , or lie..but they ignore God's Laws in those matters too... Upon hearing that both parents refusal to accept/ bend to the pressure from both Doctors and nurses - It was to this God fearing & caring man , Doctors responded " go and order the coffin for your wife" - as she lay in the hospital bed on a ward ( where she was the only person of colour in the 60,'s in the UK., as well as being a Jehovahs Witness - during a 6 week stay) The Doctors , thankfully , we're wrong. My mum is alive and quite healthy. There are so many alternatives available that do not carry the grave risks that it should no longer be an issue in the great majority of cases. ..not for Doctors that keep up to date with advanced medicine. Simple cost effective measures like reducing the temperature in the operating theatre by a small amount , which has the effect of slowing the heart rate so that if any blood loss occurs, it's minimised..(.among many other measures...as seen on jw.org ) If we think about it, upon taking foreign tissue such as in a transplant, the pharmaceutical industry then becomes a wealthy SUPPLIER , to you , who now is dependent as a USER for the " anti- rejection medicines" they provide - & at times, a life long user , whilst if one had not taken the blood , but used say, saline solution as a volume expander , - All would be well - ....but of course , neither they nor their shareholders would be happy to lose income or dividends. People throughout history have had their agendas, to violate what is holy... (as did Constantine who was motivated by desire for control/ power).. .even altering the wording of scripture..( as did the masoretes also , for example) so too, some will stop at nothing to enrich themselves materially. This does not come as any surprise to those who accept scripture ( 2 cor 4:4) , in fact , it's yet another prophecy, that finds fulfillment to build our faith . Jesus ' blood saves...ours cannot.
No there are not a lot of options avail! When you need blood you need BLOOD! I was very sick as well as many cancer patients that have low Hemoglobin. You literally cannot breathe or walk 2 ft without feeling like you are blacking out! It's as if a 10000 rock is crushing your lungs! Being able to provide people with this life saving procedure is a gift from God! I have personally been through this there are not a lot of options other than slowly dying, your hair falls out , you become pale ,your nails stop growing and your organs began to shut down. I have congestive heart failure because of my body trying so hard to pump blood that I did not have.
@@livethatlife1830 Exactly they even give you benadryl and monitor you for a couple of hours in this day and time the procedure is relatively harmless and it's life saving I am so thankful they are able to do this and the medical field is always advancing.The Jehovah's Witnesses should be sued for making people choose death and telling them there are other treatments which in most cases there is no other way.
Acts 17:26 We are all made of one blood in God's eye, so that "SACRED governing body" are fear mongering murderers and should be arrested and prosecuted for selfishly killing people with their ungodly misguided doctrines!
Christians have been leaders in medicine and the building of hospitals because their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, healed the sick during his ministry on earth (see Matt. 9; 10:8; 25: 34-26). The early church not only endorsed medicine, but championed care for the sick
It would make sense that the Bible is making reference to "Animal's blood, not Human blood because back in bible time, there were no such thing as Blood Transfusing. The idea , the concept hadn't exist in human society; so it could not be referencing to human blood. Boy, Watchtower is something else!!!
The gospel of Paul by which we're are saved today. We're under Paul's ministry today. Therefore we're not under the law of the old testament. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV)1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. And that takes us back to John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. So it's only by GRACE that we are saved not by works. Jesus did all the work and gave us his grace as long as we have faith(believe) in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus for SALVATION. That's the gospel. Jesus said, Ye must be born again to enter into the kingdom.
I do like what Jesus said on the matter on what we consume. He said that whatsoever enters INTO your body does not effect you as a person - it's what come OUT of you that is important. And that, as far as I am concerned, is the end of the matter. Transfusions don't change you as a person, nor do they change your spirit. ps Jesus' name is not Jesus, why do JW's insist on calling Him that if names are so important? We are only saved if we call upon Jesus' name?
this is a VERY THOUGH call. the old law that we are not suppose to be under. we are freed from the law again supposedly. the life was in the blood and had to be poured out to the ground, the animal's life REPRESENTED that of a HUMAN. so our brother said animal not human raises a question. according to the bible 1 Samuel 23:17 blood was a issue for David you have Davids men eating what was commanded not to eat and lived (saving a life was involved) saving a ANIMAL on a Sabbath was allowed. Jesus said saving a life was more important than the Law. but on the other hand people sincerely didn't want to break the law. so anybody for what ever reason was put to death. would a Jew take a swine flu shot because it had pig in it? would anybody criticize them if they didn't?a man when the ark was fallen was immediately struck down for touching it when the ark was falling. but David went into the house where the ark was and lived. also who said after the blood fell to the ground somebody could use parts of it for any reason.. just think of the anointing oil. it was never to be used for anything other than anointing. imagine the GB said we could for medical reasonsthe blood is special. we don't know all we need to. but if we are not under law (600+) then why are we talking about it. I know cause the GB said so.. either way good points raised
Good video it's sad that he have to die not to take blood it's not right even little kids die because they cant have blood when I was a jw I was worried that if I ever had to get blood that I would die
No.. It wasn't. Just adds to the confusion. Here's my take on it. Paul spoke of blood. He didn't specify human's nor animal's. Knowing that Paul was educated and well versed he could've easily said.. " blood and its parts or components.. but no.. he just said blood..period. Thus the blood "components" is just Pharisaical on the part of the gov body..its THEIR adage to the law. Thus is simply a matter of deciding on a yes or a no on the issue WITHOUT having to consider any "components nor derivatives".
Acts 15:20 "But to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from what is strangled, and from blood". Good God, it is referencing about animal's blood, just follow the line of thought. IT is NOT talking about human blood -Lord Jesus. IT is so clear and so Simple, we wonder how we ver fall for such a false DOCTRINE!!!. Clear Proof that Watchtower is not of God, but of the Devil.
The leading cause of death in new moms is postpartum hemorrhage. I can’t count how many times I have started my shift and during morning report I am told that Ms. So and So bled. She was aggressively resuscitated and stabilized . She’s now ok and will be transferred to the ward after a few more hours of observation. This patient would have died. I can tell you that healthcare workers hate treating JWs in situations where a blood transfusion may be indicated. We have replaced patient’s entire blood volume. Am I to believe that god would prefer for a young mom with a new baby and young children at home to bleed to death. What about a patient that develops a bleeding disorder. Is it a sin for her to receive blood products that are widely accepted treatments of such disorders. It’s vitally important that we use our critical thinking skills and stop blindly following fallible men. The chances of contracting hepatitis or hiv from blood products are extremely low.
But, isn't the blood sacred in the bible ? That is surely why the blood cannot be used for anything .... 🤔 that is the meaning it carries for God that is important. It is often assimilated in the bible to life. And all life belong to God. There is also some good points regarding the blood explonation but he doesn't base his statement on the bible by saying that it has to come from animal and not human blood. It is his own speculation/conclusion.
Quick question Why do you think the Wt didn't apologize to their readers when they stopped claiming that it was a sin worthy of DFING for taking a blood fraction that is ok now to take Why do you think after such life impacting changes no simple apology to their readers ? Thz
@@titaa56 my point if you eat animal blood you can ask for forgiveness. Is NOT that you cannot inherit everlasting life if you eat animal blood.. The bottom line is it's all about animal blood not human BLOOD. So I would agree that human blood can save our lives. Because what guarantee of life do we get if we abstain from human blood??.
@@jsilvanus240 You don't have to ask for forgiviness for eat animal blood people eat pork and didn't ask for forgiviness different culture cook using animal blood and some times its the only form of liquid to drink this is just so superstitious this is 2018 people need to stop acting so slow and get a mind of their own
I rather be called a apostate then to be lead by a group of men who think they are god throw a rock and hide their hand. Even the devil know the bible. Being blind and lead by the blind is a dangerous thing
EPO has been helpful In a great many cases..again without the need of continual lifelong dependence on the greedy pharmaceutical companies. The difficult decisions people face at times can be based on what doctors on hand tell us. Informed consent has put the balance in a better place of recent times. You may recall the recent case of baby Asher. They actually put out a worldwide search on interpol for this one child..in the UK , when his parents who were jw 's, who had researched their sons case ( and put up the money to fund the operation ) and made the decision after consulting with the hospital in which he was being " cared for " (they point blank refused to give go ahead to use proton beam therapy which was available elsewhere ..in another country. Chemotherapy is a blunt tool compared to proton beam therapy as l understand it...as it targets just the bad / cancerous cells unlike chemotherapy which kills both good and bad. Might be worth looking into..just saying Now however, there's a drive to put more proton beam units into hospital here in the UK..to better treat people..not just jw,'s. You're welcome to use it.. "Good health to you ".
So my question is what is a human life worth? Obviously there is lack of consistency in the watchtower doctrinal propaganda, and it appears man or woman cannot live just for the sake of themselves. Homage, sacrifice, and even death are mandated over the basic human right of survival. Once again as I've reminded many witnesses, no human being that ever existed thousands of years ago was ever a biochemist, an immunologist, nor a microbiologist. So they cannot use the argument as you've pointed out that infections or contamination is a biblical issue. That would have been veritably impossible to ascertain that many eons ago. This is just mental manipulation/masturbation at its finest.
There are many physicians and staff that won't themselves have a blood transfusion. And the fact that it is a organ means your body wil have a 50/50 chance that the body will accept it or reject it. And besides deseases that contaminate blood so does human error. And its NOT a guarantee either. And since tjere is always new deseases arising and some unknown to the medical field I would never take a blood transfusion or recommend it to anyone. You take in DNA from somebody else too which can cause other problems dowm the road. And its expensive! And druggies who get paid $50 to donate thier blood ,is what your putting in your veins! The Military now uses nonblood medicine as the gold standard. Why on would you guys stay in the dark and risk your health when medical science has been able to offer safer and affordable treatments and your recovery is faster too. Any dictor that says he doesn't perform nonblood teatments is not up to date on his practice and knowledge. So sad you would encourage bad medicine.
In an emergency and last resort situation such as trauma from massive blood loss from a car accident or work injury there is no time to plan. An IV medical blood transfusion is often REQUIRED FOR SURVIVAL in such situations. Acts 15:20, 28, 29 is a DIETARY and DIGESTIVE LAW, NOT a medical one.
All the issues you raise are interesting but Failed to address the issue The wt position that was that even if blood was 100% safe God said you could not take hemoglobin You would have told your neighbor this is what the Bible says Would you have showed him the new magazine the next week the wt revised this requirement of God ?
wrong basic Christology of NWT ; yesus = a creation. Yesus was not a creation but Eternal God because there was "self existence" in Himself. John 1:1-3 : in the beginning was the Word & the Word was God. John 1:4 : in Him was life. John 2:19 : in 3 days I will raise it up. John 5 :26: has life in Himself. john 10-17-18 : "No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. John 14:6 : I am the way ; the truth and the life (only God was the source of truth and source of life). Isaiah 9:6 : Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father.
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I could never bring myself to sign the blood card! I would never deny my child a treatment that could save their life. When I got sick those people were trying to convince me it was the devil that it was all in my head! I would be in field service and have to sit on the side of the road because I was about to pass out! Once I got so sick that I actually did pass out I finally went to the doctor. My hemoglobin was a 4! I had to have 2 transfusions had I continued to listen to those people I would be DEAD! They are obsessed with death so that you can be a martyr for the organization. Meanwhile your family is mourning you and those people are on to the next recruit! They always say their Light got brighter well so has medical science transfusions are very safe in this day and time that is a provision from Jehovah giving doctors the ability to save lives.
Well done therefore this organization is very heartless evil does so much evidence
I never signed that card neither never had it on me. That was one thing I could never understand and accept. 🤦🏿♂️
JT after 20 years out of the JW , I finally wrote a letter to the GB for them to remove my name from their list. I had that courage from watching your video and others.
Thank you
George Brito good for you. :)
Jt
At some point a person has to roll up out of that camp
Congrats
Good video, JT! When the Watchtower Society deemed accepting certain fractions of blood to be a matter of conscience, it became clear to me that, if even one fraction of blood is a matter of individual conscience, then the entire matter of accepting blood or not is a matter of individual conscience. No organization or governing body is authorized to make a determination regarding the conscience of another Christian. Similarly, my father served a 5-year prison sentence during World War II, not for refusing to go to war, but for refusing to perform alternative service during wartime which the Watchtower had deemed to be a compromise of one's neutrality. In the mid-90s, when the Society deemed performing alternative service to be a matter of conscience, I asked my father how it felt to realize that he had gone to prison, not for loyalty to God, but for loyalty to imperfect men.
Roger Kirkpatrick your post is exactly the type of critical al thinking that helps one see what is unscriptural
Loved you post
I myself, I am an eye witness to one of a young Jehovah"s Witnesses Elder and very loving married Man who died from these one of horrible false belief of NO blood transfusion of this Organization and left a very young wife and very little Children. He gave a talk on Saturday evening and he died the following week Monday night after he fainted at work. Our Creator is very sad to see such things happening through His Holy Name by false prophets. Thank you for this important point.
the quality and consistency of this channel is nothing short of impressive. only genuine love would motivate someone to spend so much of their personal time into helping others.
This was the escape door I was searching for. Thankyou!! The truth shall set you FREE!!
thanks LOADS. just passed it to our main hospital blood transfusion department.
Hey Happy Thanksgiving !! I am so Grateful for so many things. Grateful for all you do
Since the Bible talked about blood from animals and not human blood, how does this relate to blood transfusions since blood transfusions uses human blood? Also, there were no life saving methods like a blood transfusion in Bible times and so how would Jesus have thought about a life-saving blood transfusion if they were available during his time?
Am an ex JW, and I remember I had been counseled to cut my long hair. and I asked them why do they illustrate Samuel with short hair when he was a Nazirite. Cutting their hair was prohibited. I also like the part when they had an illustration of Samson in their book. I think it was my book of bible stories- they used the picture of Victor Mature who did the Samson and Delilah movie. We went on and on about hair and I was prepared with what they would say about apostle Paul and nature and blah blah blah.But long story short. They lost the argument- and just say I have to follow The Faithful and Discreet Slave
@year1914 In many lands other than the US jw have beards. I saw many jw from other countries at a international convention with beards. Btw, Jesus had a beard, the founder of the Watchtower had a beard. So why it's different in the US that jw can't wear a beard? I dont think any minister of any religion should wear their beards growing out all over the place like you see today.
@year1914 Before I disassociated myself I saw a brother who was df he grew a beard. I saw him I didn't speak to him; I feel bad knowing that's my character to speak to any any everybody. I was indoctrinated then. When current jw's see ex-witness in pubic they say the person is mental disease. That's the craziest thing I ever heard.
@year1914 I didn't go to my judicial hearing. I felt like I was waiting to be sentence to jail for a crime. If DF cause people to lose their families and even commit suicide I highly oppose it.
@year1914 jesus was a jew and they didn't cut their hair people pick and choose what they want to follow your not suppose to eat pork you never heard about Jesus eating pork but yet Christian eat pork and first thing people bring up is jesus did away with laws my question is which laws because there are hundreds of them. When the bible was put together by Europeans they decided what should be in the bible and left out tons of other books and to me thats a lil suppect
let's pass the word to law firms hospitals , newspapers,supermarkets etc etc
Excellent discussion!! It's absolutely amazing how Watchtower tries to condemn a medical practice that wasn't even invented when the Bible was written!!!...Because of the organization's insistent meddling into the private medical affairs of it's members, many have sadly and needlessly lost their lives. This is a topic that cannot be overstressed!!!
Thank you for having brother Mark Martin on your channel. I always wondered where he was. I only saw his two videos from a long time ago. And i really enjoy his logic.
sofia morgan glad you enjoyed him
JT
Thanks
We are saved by the blood of CHRIST..
Abstain from blood..but animal blood not human blood..
"A pet should NOT be given blood transfusion"
Watchtower February 15th, 1964, page 127.
Blood eating 1st Samuel 14:32-35..
Unless the blood is poured out there is not forgiveness of sin. That being said, did not David eat the bread of the temple, which was not lawful for him to eat? And also Jesus asked the Pharisees, who of you would not pull his son or animal out of a well on the sabbath?! Nevertheless, Wisdom is proven righteous by its works.
#DELILAHROSESILVANUS HI! OY!!! They're even dictating their laws to pets?!?! I don't think so! It needs to be established that BLOOD, taken into the CIRCULATORY SYSTEM is *NOT* EATING blood because digestion is NOT part of the circulatory process. When it talks about ABSTANING from Blood, it means from EATING blood. Animal or human. But blood transfusions do not, Not *NOT* involve EATING blood.
The eight goons in WT headquarters are NO MORE qualified to give medical advice than I am to give legal advice.
@@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE the evidence is there in the Jehovah Witness Watchtower that I mention in the comment you can read it..
@@jsilvanus240 I believe you. It's just sad that WT disciples don't understand the distinction between DIETARY law and I guess you could call it and medical law.
I asked a Rabbi sometime back about how the Jewish people approach the blood issue, pertaining to transfusions, and he told me that the law on EATING blood is a DIETARY law and does NOT prevent Jewish people, or anyone else, with the good sense God gave a head of lettuce, from taking a blood transfusion, or donating blood.
It's tragic that so many people take their medical advice from morons who aren't qualified to dispense bandaids, let alone life or death medical counsel.
I wonder if the GB just flips a coin to decide which fractions to allow and which not to. It looks that way because their choices seem so random.
You present great videos with sound reasoning.
You should have a couple hundred thousand subscribers!
Hi JT and Cathy, this TH-cam channel has been amazing. We were in some deep dreams when we were JWs.
In 1979 I denied the Blood when have a c-section. I truly believe that I was taking a stand for God, Thanks to God I live, even refusing after the Doctor continue to trying to tell me I would died. Well very disappointed to know that now JW is allowed to take a fraction of Blood. Please explain how you can fraction or proportion Blood. How many people have the organization took the lives of people by making rules to control ones thinking. No Elder can explained why the change, of proportion verse prohibit the taking of Blood. Do you think they're tired of killing people.
Oh my word!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾thank you. That is was the most beneficial video 🙏🙏🙏 Thank you. Human blood is an organ, when added to your body it is used as an organ. It is not digested. Taken blood via the vein is not digestion. Wow how did miss that 🤔🤔🤔🤔 my mom nearly died in child birth in 1970, because she and my dad refused blood. Shake my head
Thank you for your videos! Keep spreading the truth!
If the JWs think it's ok for an 8 year old to get baptized then it's ok for THEM to do decide if they take blood or not
A side thought on the blood topic,.....Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to have certain blood fractions, however, are they allowed to give blood? From what I understand, doesn't it take a lot more blood to get the fractions needed? What a mess!!! I guess little by little they will allow all the fractions, therefore, in time, the whole blood.
Caren bingo
Well stated. That is the most important point to remember is the blood issue was a DIETARY and DIGESTION law, much similar to today where the FDA puts information out and mandates warning labels on meat to warn of the dangers of undercooked meat which has blood in it until it is cooked well done even after being bleed initially. So Acts 15:20, 28, 29 which was always cited and quoted on all those DPA's and "no blood" "medical" "legal" cards was likewise solely for a dietary and digestive health issue as Paul concluded "good health to you!" in that scripture. It has nothing to do with medical IV blood transfusions. I used to believe that "Reasoning" book illustration also. How misled, bamboozled and hoodwinked we all were by this blood doctrine and what is appalling is how blood guilty the Jehovah's Witness head honcho policymakers and enforcers are for the thousands that have needlessly died when their lives could have been saved in an emergency or last resort even via a medical IV blood transfusion.
Thank you for continued enlightenment :)
Ray Franz made a point. If at the extreme time, at the time of life and death, you need to drink blood to keep yourself alive like because there is no water/liquid except blood for another 100 miles or for another 10 days for whatever reason, are you going to drink it? Are you going to keep not drinking the blood principal or keep yourself alive by drinking the blood?
Ray Franz really made a point, or Eric Wilson, both, anyway, whatever, blood after all is just the symbol, keeping the symbol of life by sacrificing life, it's just not the way it should be. I guess you all know already after all.
Well done and so Educational
I am so happy that the witneses changed their organs transplant doctrine. The God of the Bible never said nothing against human sharing flesh, bone or blood. Contrary to that in the Bible the first example of organ sharing appears in Genesis 2:21-23. From an organ of Adan, a rib, God made a woman, Eve. More than of an example of organ sharing is bigger, clonation. From Adan blood, flesh, bone. Eve. If a organ used just for balance was used to create other human being, how important are the vital organs and fluids as blood. That is Old Testament. In the New Testament the Apostle Paul set the base for the eye transplant, abiding the organ and blood sharing. Galatian 4:15. I do not know why the watchtower was so permissive with suffering, pain, sickness and death forbidding in a time the organ transplant and now the blood issue. Knowing the Bible. The God of the Bible was clear in that matter. Now the watchtowet allows the use of blood fractions. This means that new changes are coming. May be they are waiting for a new, brigther and bigger light. Please, beware of the light that is just a darkness. Mathew 6:22-23. Be welcome organs tranplant and be welcome blood transfusions. Peace to all.
Thank you for the awesome work that you are doing!
I'm trying to catch up on all of your previous videos as I've only been free of Watchtower a couple of months now. I've had 5 operations without any blood transfusion. I'm appalled at how the Watchtower governing body fakers, use their supposed knowledge, to teach us. I had a colonoscopy and just before I went under, the doctor made me sign a waiver about blood transfusions. I was mad at him because he brought it up at the last minute before my lights went out.
I'm so glad that you differentiate the 'church and state' dilemma about JW teachings. You make it quite clear that they are re-writing the bible.
Also, when the blood fractions sheet came out in the KM, I was totally confused by it. I haven't had a 'blood card' filled out for many years now. I thought it was a waste of my time. Watchtower always gets us to go on wild goose chases to waste our time so that we don't think for ourselves.
Most JWs are lazy students anyways. Only ones who really want truth will find it.
Thanks for all of your videos, my dear, REAL brothers and sisters.
Good video! The bible was talking about injesting Animal blood because the disrespect of life! And remember IT WAS NOT punishable by death! Then Jesus taught that we should regard the principle of "life" over "law"! So life out weighs the symbol of life!
Then to now understand that the injestion process cannot be compared to the infusion process when it comes to food/alchohol/ blood. I love that we can use our minds for reason and not just be shut into a dogmatic box
Knowledge is what you've shared with Us in the Past n Future n how we Choose to use it is our Choice... Unfortunately "JW" members is so OLD SCHOOL even when I pointed out the Flip Flop "GB" Mentality my Mother, Sister n Brother is like Ostriches with they're Head in the Ground it makes me Sad knowing that today they still Carry the "No Blood Card" as if it is a Badge of Honor ....😔
Excellent video. Animal blood is never pointed out in these scriptures. I just dealt with this and almost lost my life after refusing to take blood when i was put in ICU 3 times. Would love to share my story. One more point: blood transfusions are a relatively new technology. Taking the wrong blood type is deadly and contaminated blood used to be a huge problem. Taking blood is now safer and more precise than ever. Ironically i found out later because i had actually taken blood factions i would not have been violating the society's new and improved position on the blood issue. CRAZY!!!!
That poster who wrote that he was in court, begging for his life when his parents refused to let him take a blood transfusion. And another poster who admitted that his mother would have let him die! WHY? Because a group of men SAID that God said.... OY!
I like the poster who wrote that either God is lying or the GoBo are NOT speaking for God in the first place. But they ARE speaking for someone else. See John 10:10 The *THIEF* is summed up PERFECTLY by WT actions where the family is concerned.
are there any scientific/ medical links where they talk about blood being an organ?? I can't find anything. I did find someone saying it's more like tissue and not an organ.. Would really be helpful if anyone can share!
There was some mention about it being and organ and they backed up off that since it created a problem once they stated to allow organ transplants
Once you tell one lie you got to tell another to Kinda make things work
I can check for you to see where they mentioned that
Also
Check out the group of elders from the Liaison committee who run the site on blood
AJWRB.org
Is a good resource to start with
Hello dears,did you guys see A&E yet!
Really enjoying the Mark Martin segments. Great addition to an already excellent channel. Thanks folks!
How many people have left he recently? I have read this and listened to that. Does anyone have the data? I can't believe after all this info there are still so many left
If a doctor said abstain from alcohol, would that mean to a Jehovah's witness that a person couldn't use a lotion or cream that contains alcohol, or rubbing alcohol, or any products that are absorbed by the body which contain alcohol? If they can concede that abstaining does not always mean hundred percent abstinence in its purest forum, they have to question whether God was talking about blood transfusions. And I believe the JW's prohibit donating blood, but it's okay to receive the fractions that were based on donations? How is it possible for them to receive a life saving medical procedure thanks to worldly people, that they themselves aren't permitted to do?
I'm not taking sides on this issue, but one point that I would like to make is: There is no way to know if a person who died after refusing a transfusion would have lived had they gotten one. It's unknowable.
This is really cool
What i don't understand is why people the question the fact that they call themselves an "organization" since when was god an organization sounds more like a business governing body and yet nobody stop to question this
The WT cherry picked that verse from the Bible...how sad that so many have died because of it !!!
Outstanding!
Discussed the s today with my mum, as we get nearer to Armageddon the light gets brighter J is Happy as they died loyal !! My mum :-(
It's a bit confusing, He says that blood through the veins is NOT feeding and then he sites the W 51 as an illustration, but that says that administering the transfusion through the veins IS feeding. So why use this as an illustration.
Blood is giving through the vein but intro feeding is through the nose or stomach
The problem is that parents are the only liable for their children's lives, that's an excess of interpretation, overinterpretation and an excess of authority, disresponsable abuse of authority
I am new ot watching this channel. I have watched a few videos so far. Is JT a Christain? Is he a part of any religious denomination? Just wondering.
Austin Ciminillo after 30 years of arguing with folks over whether Jesus died on a LIGHT POLE or Telephone pole we have come to better appreciate the difference between being spiritual and being religious
Although that does not seem to answer my question, I appreicaite you taking the time to reply to my question.
Austin Ciminillo. O I'm sorry . Since leaving the jw belief system we really have not had any interest in religious belief systems
Some folks leave and join another church
Some leave and become atheist
IT varies from person to person.
For us spirituality and "religion" are not the same. We have found that for us we rather have QUESTIONS that we can't answer than ANSWERS WE CANT QUESTION
I think the watchtower was right when they said. Religion is a snare and a racket
Just my 2
JT
This was more helpful, thank you.
Wow. Your body receives it like an organ. Wow...............
Ok I'm not religious but did I miss something? Those scriptures clearly said to abstain from blood. Doesn't that mean not take it any form if you're Christian?
The context is very important to consider. The eating of blood as a show of respect for what it represents (life), is what was forbidden. This is the only way they would have understood this.
Transfusing is using blood exactly where it is meant to be used. It is in no way "eating". If that was the case a
Since JWs allow organ transplants, that means they are cannibals?
Am I right in saying lactating mothers produce milk from their own blood?
This would apply, of course, to cows.
"Whatsoever enters the body does not defile a man" said Jesus. Otherwise,
if we are going to observe Old Testament ordinances (as opposed to morals)
then let's honor them all.
What has been surprising to the medical profession is that when ( people)..jws have been resolute in sticking to their stand of avoiding use of blood and as a result their hemoglobin level had gone very low ( doctors consider the level 8 - 10 to be the threshold ) - all the way down to 2, people have recovered health.
One could rightly the threshold and consider it as irrelevant therefore - as it is not as previously believed.
If one allows the body to use what it has..and add to it ones will to live - which seems to work well somehow, - even using simple saline solution ( which is inexpensive and requires no testing for diseases etc ) which makes fluid available as a blood expander , this is what has been proven most beneficial .
I lmagine the heart needs sufficient fluid basically to keep it pumping...lm no expert, but when lve come across pumps that have run dry , even they sieze up , in a short space of time.
Wishing you All the best.
Those occasions where sadly people have lost their battle against cancer and other grave maladies, the God of the bible , has the ability to bring back these ..to re animate them in what is termed " the ressurection ".
Isn't that a wondrous hope ?!!
Just think of the tears of joy we'll then gladly cry...rejoicing like we've never known before, will overtake any grief we felt at loss. !!!!
As the author of life itself , This powerful Being , who CANNOT LIE, (perhaps the only being that cannot lie in the universe/ existence - scripture doesn't include any one else in that statement) , has said it is what will happen.
The name He had given for humans to use forever, basically means : "whatever I say lm going to do - is as good as done" .
That's the way Moses of old understood His name to mean , and he learned through his dealings with the Almighty, that this was so , even as did mighty Pharaoh
(Sorry..lve gone into poetry mode)
There was no mysterious hidden code .
How to please God, jesus came to earth, and showed
He never believed that the Earth would be allowed explode..no
The message from God is : we reap what we sow.
& To have faith in the kingdom hope, tho men are lost in darkness and blindly grope, ignoring God's word made readily available to the world , but
God knew there be some who would treasure his words like a priceless pearl
And for it , would willingly exchange everything in Church, they'd learned.
For truth is what they'd searched ..and wherever that took them , that came first.
Last I recall....The bible says don't EAT the blood. Not using it medically or fractions of it has no scriptural basis.
Hi guys if Acts 15 was referring back to the law covenant for Jews. It was related to animal blood and some satanic pagan rituals and maybe some old medical drinking.
Not modern medical uses as your bro related.
What was the consequence for a Jew of eating the animal blood ie unbled animal etc. Was it DEATH???
Were they cut off from community?? Or were they unclean for a period of time then back to normal.??
As Peter was to eat any food made clean with thanks being given to Jah. Wasnt that a shadow for Christians??.
Not sure if you covered those points earlier. Let me know and i will watch.
Love to you all.
Blood is live, that must mean :
You shall not kill .
Blood is live just in a Body .
God‘ s law is , You shall not kill.
Sixht commandment.
Paul said : God‘s law is the truth and fully aware.
God‘ law said the truth.
Is not about animal Blood or human Blood is about live .
Nobody can to live without blood , is necessary for Body .
Blood is precious just in the Body , not outside.
The prohibition that God made regarding the use of blood started with Noah.
However, the issue of respecting blood was likely tied up with Cain and Abel too.. wherein God showed he favoured the sacrifice that was made by Abel.
I am testimony to the fact that blood is not the life saver that it has been thought to be.
Doctors consider it to be the Gold standard to avoid using blood transfusions. .
It has been a journey for some to realise the wisdom and truthfulness of God's command laid upon mankind.
What has often gone ignored ate the millions who upon receiving blood transfusions, go into shock and die on the operating table..and whose deaths from taking blood transfusions are not counted as being due to that / included in the statistics .
After the older men in Jerusalem made the decree regarding fornication and the taking/abstention of blood which included eating /consuming meat from animals that has not been properly bled , the letter was passed on to Christians in all of the congregations.They would have had to consider the historical stance , if any , that God had made in making that decision - nor how men felt in seeking to please God.
As my father once said to me.."It's just another of God's Laws that men choose to ignore "....God's law says do not murder , or lie..but they ignore God's Laws in those matters too...
Upon hearing that both parents refusal to accept/ bend to the pressure from both Doctors and nurses -
It was to this God fearing & caring man , Doctors responded " go and order the coffin for your wife" - as she lay in the hospital bed on a ward ( where she was the only person of colour in the 60,'s in the UK., as well as being a Jehovahs Witness - during a 6 week stay)
The Doctors , thankfully , we're wrong. My mum is alive and quite healthy.
There are so many alternatives available that do not carry the grave risks that it should no longer be an issue in the great majority of cases. ..not for Doctors that keep up to date with advanced medicine.
Simple cost effective measures like reducing the temperature in the operating theatre by a small amount , which has the effect of slowing the heart rate so that if any blood loss occurs, it's minimised..(.among many other measures...as seen on jw.org )
If we think about it, upon taking foreign tissue such as in a transplant, the pharmaceutical industry then becomes a wealthy SUPPLIER , to you , who now is dependent as a USER for the " anti- rejection medicines" they provide - & at times, a life long user , whilst if one had not taken the blood , but used say, saline solution as a volume expander , -
All would be well -
....but of course , neither they nor their shareholders would be happy to lose income or dividends.
People throughout history have had their agendas, to violate what is holy... (as did Constantine who was motivated by desire for control/ power).. .even altering the wording of scripture..( as did the masoretes also , for example) so too, some will stop at nothing to enrich themselves materially.
This does not come as any surprise to those who accept scripture ( 2 cor 4:4) , in fact , it's yet another prophecy, that finds fulfillment to build our faith .
Jesus ' blood saves...ours cannot.
No there are not a lot of options avail! When you need blood you need BLOOD! I was very sick as well as many cancer patients that have low Hemoglobin. You literally cannot breathe or walk 2 ft without feeling like you are blacking out! It's as if a 10000 rock is crushing your lungs! Being able to provide people with this life saving procedure is a gift from God! I have personally been through this there are not a lot of options other than slowly dying, your hair falls out , you become pale ,your nails stop growing and your organs began to shut down. I have congestive heart failure because of my body trying so hard to pump blood that I did not have.
If somebody went into shock after receiving blood its because it wasn't there blood type
@@livethatlife1830 Exactly they even give you benadryl and monitor you for a couple of hours in this day and time the procedure is relatively harmless and it's life saving I am so thankful they are able to do this and the medical field is always advancing.The Jehovah's Witnesses should be sued for making people choose death and telling them there are other treatments which in most cases there is no other way.
Acts 17:26 We are all made of one blood in God's eye, so that "SACRED governing body" are fear mongering murderers and should be arrested and prosecuted for selfishly killing people with their ungodly misguided doctrines!
Christians have been leaders in medicine and the building of hospitals because their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, healed the sick during his ministry on earth (see Matt. 9; 10:8; 25: 34-26). The early church not only endorsed medicine, but championed care for the sick
It would make sense that the Bible is making reference to "Animal's blood, not Human blood because back in bible time, there were no such thing as Blood Transfusing. The idea , the concept hadn't exist in human society; so it could not be referencing to human blood. Boy, Watchtower is something else!!!
This is TPN... Not the same
Why do they pass the wine around like its Jesus blood at memorial's isnt that a pagan act? Just seems odd to me
DESPERADO PHARAOH WT Needed to do something different from other groups and they certainly do
JT
The gospel of Paul by which we're are saved today. We're under Paul's ministry today. Therefore we're not under the law of the old testament. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV)1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
And that takes us back to John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. So it's only by GRACE that we are saved not by works. Jesus did all the work and gave us his grace as long as we have faith(believe) in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus for SALVATION. That's the gospel. Jesus said, Ye must be born again to enter into the kingdom.
I do like what Jesus said on the matter on what we consume. He said that whatsoever
enters INTO your body does not effect you as a person - it's what come OUT of you that
is important.
And that, as far as I am concerned, is the end of the matter. Transfusions don't change
you as a person, nor do they change your spirit.
ps Jesus' name is not Jesus, why do JW's insist on calling Him that if names are so
important? We are only saved if we call upon Jesus' name?
this is a VERY THOUGH call. the old law that we are not suppose to be under. we are freed from the law again supposedly. the life was in the blood and had to be poured out to the ground, the animal's life REPRESENTED that of a HUMAN. so our brother said animal not human raises a question. according to the bible 1 Samuel 23:17 blood was a issue for David you have Davids men eating what was commanded not to eat and lived (saving a life was involved) saving a ANIMAL on a Sabbath was allowed. Jesus said saving a life was more important than the Law. but on the other hand people sincerely didn't want to break the law. so anybody for what ever reason was put to death. would a Jew take a swine flu shot because it had pig in it? would anybody criticize them if they didn't?a man when the ark was fallen was immediately struck down for touching it when the ark was falling. but David went into the house where the ark was and lived. also who said after the blood fell to the ground somebody could use parts of it for any reason.. just think of the anointing oil. it was never to be used for anything other than anointing. imagine the GB said we could for medical reasonsthe blood is special. we don't know all we need to. but if we are not under law (600+) then why are we talking about it. I know cause the GB said so.. either way good points raised
I know Mark means well, but with the way he's dressed and calling them sister and brother, I feel like I'm watching a public talk at the Kingdom Hall.
Good video it's sad that he have to die not to take blood it's not right even little kids die because they cant have blood when I was a jw I was worried that if I ever had to get blood that I would die
No.. It wasn't. Just adds to the confusion. Here's my take on it. Paul spoke of blood. He didn't specify human's nor animal's. Knowing that Paul was educated and well versed he could've easily said.. " blood and its parts or components.. but no.. he just said blood..period. Thus the blood "components" is just Pharisaical on the part of the gov body..its THEIR adage to the law. Thus is simply a matter of deciding on a yes or a no on the issue WITHOUT having to consider any "components nor derivatives".
Acts 15:20 "But to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from what is strangled, and from blood". Good God, it is referencing about animal's blood, just follow the line of thought. IT is NOT talking about human blood -Lord Jesus. IT is so clear and so Simple, we wonder how we ver fall for such a false DOCTRINE!!!. Clear Proof that Watchtower is not of God, but of the Devil.
The leading cause of death in new moms is postpartum hemorrhage. I can’t count how many times I have started my shift and during morning report I am told that Ms. So and So bled. She was aggressively resuscitated and stabilized . She’s now ok and will be transferred to the ward after a few more hours of observation.
This patient would have died.
I can tell you that healthcare workers hate treating JWs in situations where a blood transfusion may be indicated.
We have replaced patient’s entire blood volume.
Am I to believe that god would prefer for a young mom with a new baby and young children at home to bleed to death.
What about a patient that develops a bleeding disorder. Is it a sin for her to receive blood products that are widely accepted treatments of such disorders.
It’s vitally important that we use our critical thinking skills and stop blindly following fallible men.
The chances of contracting hepatitis or hiv from blood products are extremely low.
But, isn't the blood sacred in the bible ? That is surely why the blood cannot be used for anything .... 🤔 that is the meaning it carries for God that is important. It is often assimilated in the bible to life. And all life belong to God.
There is also some good points regarding the blood explonation but he doesn't base his statement on the bible by saying that it has to come from animal and not human blood. It is his own speculation/conclusion.
Quick question
Why do you think the Wt didn't apologize to their readers when they stopped claiming that it was a sin worthy of DFING for taking a blood fraction that is ok now to take
Why do you think after such life impacting changes no simple apology to their readers ?
Thz
Eating blood and repent..
1 SAMUEL 14:32-35.
DELILAH ROSE SILVANUS. So what's your point on this verse?
@@titaa56 my point if you eat animal blood you can ask for forgiveness.
Is NOT that you cannot inherit everlasting life if you eat animal blood..
The bottom line is it's all about animal blood not human BLOOD.
So I would agree that human blood can save our lives.
Because what guarantee of life do we get if we abstain from human blood??.
@@jsilvanus240 You don't have to ask for forgiviness for eat animal blood people eat pork and didn't ask for forgiviness different culture cook using animal blood and some times its the only form of liquid to drink this is just so superstitious this is 2018 people need to stop acting so slow and get a mind of their own
@@livethatlife1830 according to the BIBLE, SAUL and his men ate BLOOD and ask for FORGIVENESS..
But the Bible called some of you ( apostates )
I rather be called a apostate then to be lead by a group of men who think they are god throw a rock and hide their hand. Even the devil know the bible. Being blind and lead by the blind is a dangerous thing
And Watchtower keeps it's own archived apostate library at Bethel!! Think! Use your brain inside your head Aaron!
EPO has been helpful In a great many cases..again without the need of continual lifelong dependence on the greedy pharmaceutical companies.
The difficult decisions people face at times can be based on what doctors on hand tell us.
Informed consent has put the balance in a better place of recent times.
You may recall the recent case of baby Asher.
They actually put out a worldwide search on interpol for this one child..in the UK , when his parents who were jw 's, who had researched their sons case ( and put up the money to fund the operation ) and made the decision after consulting with the hospital in which he was being " cared for " (they point blank refused to give go ahead to use proton beam therapy which was available elsewhere ..in another country.
Chemotherapy is a blunt tool compared to proton beam therapy as l understand it...as it targets just the bad / cancerous cells unlike chemotherapy which kills both good and bad.
Might be worth looking into..just saying
Now however, there's a drive to put more proton beam units into hospital here in the UK..to better treat people..not just jw,'s.
You're welcome to use it..
"Good health to you ".
So my question is what is a human life worth? Obviously there is lack of consistency in the watchtower doctrinal propaganda, and it appears man or woman cannot live just for the sake of themselves. Homage, sacrifice, and even death are mandated over the basic human right of survival. Once again as I've reminded many witnesses, no human being that ever existed thousands of years ago was ever a biochemist, an immunologist, nor a microbiologist. So they cannot use the argument as you've pointed out that infections or contamination is a biblical issue. That would have been veritably impossible to ascertain that many eons ago.
This is just mental manipulation/masturbation at its finest.
What is human life worth? From a medical perspective the answer is that every life has the same value: it's priceless.
There are many physicians and staff that won't themselves have a blood transfusion. And the fact that it is a organ means your body wil have a 50/50 chance that the body will accept it or reject it. And besides deseases that contaminate blood so does human error. And its NOT a guarantee either. And since tjere is always new deseases arising and some unknown to the medical field I would never take a blood transfusion or recommend it to anyone. You take in DNA from somebody else too which can cause other problems dowm the road. And its expensive! And druggies who get paid $50 to donate thier blood ,is what your putting in your veins! The Military now uses nonblood medicine as the gold standard. Why on would you guys stay in the dark and risk your health when medical science has been able to offer safer and affordable treatments and your recovery is faster too. Any dictor that says he doesn't perform nonblood teatments is not up to date on his practice and knowledge. So sad you would encourage bad medicine.
In an emergency and last resort situation such as trauma from massive blood loss from a car accident or work injury there is no time to plan. An IV medical blood transfusion is often REQUIRED FOR SURVIVAL in such situations. Acts 15:20, 28, 29 is a DIETARY and DIGESTIVE LAW, NOT a medical one.
All the issues you raise are interesting but Failed to address the issue
The wt position that was that even if blood was 100% safe God said you could not take hemoglobin
You would have told your neighbor this is what the Bible says
Would you have showed him the new magazine the next week the wt revised this requirement of God ?
wrong basic Christology of NWT ; yesus = a creation.
Yesus was not a creation but Eternal God because there was "self existence" in Himself.
John 1:1-3 : in the beginning was the Word & the Word was God.
John 1:4 : in Him was life.
John 2:19 : in 3 days I will raise it up.
John 5 :26: has life in Himself.
john 10-17-18 : "No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again.
John 14:6 : I am the way ; the truth and the life (only God was the source of truth and source of life).
Isaiah 9:6 : Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father.