Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely Do Watchmen - Pax Americana (Director's Cut with Quitely's pencils)
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Re: The Question's philosophy in this comic: He's referencing spiral dynamics, which identifies eight different stages the evolution of a civilization or of a person and codifies them by using eight different colors. A lot of the scenes on Pax Americana have a dominant color, which reflects the stage on the spiral dynamics that scene is an example of.
Funn fact about this comic. Morrison has said that theyve written 10 issues of Pax Americana to completion. So imagine Quitely and morrison doing this for 10 issues to complete the whole story. Would be one of the greatest comics of all time
Do you have a source of that?
@@josetxulopezcasado2521 yep! I’m glad you asked. This interview Morrison and Sharp did together last April is where it’s brought up. Timestamp is 31:45 th-cam.com/video/QCXLWzONc9s/w-d-xo.html
@@tooglianprimus15 Thank you very much!!!!!!!!
I really hope the make it. Not sure why they wouldn’t?
Quitely is the KING when it comes to layouts! I didn't know this book existed, thanks for featuring it
For that double page spread you're having trouble reading, it's told in three points in time. The lighting on the floor is supposed to help you pick the order of panels, and that's not there in the black and white version.
Loving all of the Tom guest appearances on the channel!
I loved this issue, easily the best part of the whole Multiversity event, which is saying something because I quite enjoyed that book!
Although this may seem heretical, I actually prefer reading this issue than any of Watchmen's. But that's less a statement of quality (both are amazing in their own echoing ways), but on the fact that every Alan Moore book I've read has actually put a dent in my mental health after reading it.
I'm still looking for that Moore book that doesn't do that!
Agreed. The more I read it I would put Thunder world up there as one of the better issues as well.
This video actually made me dig up my collected Multiversity and added bookmarks to my favourite issues.
Low and Watkins' Scottish Sunday Post strip The Broons, is a huge stylistic influence on Frank Quietly's 'nuts & bolts' composition and drafting. Worth a look and easy to find whenever you're next over in the UK.
Nice. I’ll check that out.
@@petez4608 Please do!
Love how that bridge page is an eye staring at the reader- so much harder to see in the color version
Thank you! This is one of my favorite single issues of the last decade. So much fun to dig into.
So glad you guys did this. That first Adam page, the bottom 4 panels read backwards perfectly. And that confusing double page spread makes sense with the colors.
If you get a chance the rest of the miniseries is worthwhile. Hitler on the john reading a comic, drawn by Jim Lee is a personal favorite... anyway, you guys rock. Keep it up.
This is one of my favorite single issues of all time, glad you guys covered it.
The other issues in this mini-series are definitely worth checking out. Some other great homages to different era's in comics history.
Definitely one of my favorite issues of the *Multiversity* series....certainly the most complex.
DC put out a Deluxe edition of Morrison and Quitely's Earth 2 that has all of Quitely's layouts in the back, definitely worth a look to anyone who is interested in Quitely's process. The layouts are very finished, I'm not sure if it was part of an approval process at the time or just Quitely's meticulous work ethic, but it's fun to look at alongside the finished artwork.
I know it's more modern than you typically look at, but Kieron Gillen and Caspar Wijngaard's Peter Cannon Thunderbolt is another very interesting Watchmen analysis. Well worth a read.
This one blew my mind I thought Morrison had lost his touch because I didn't like the rest of the multiverse issues but this was very inspiring.
Wish this Universe would get its own on going series, I fell in love with the charlton characters after reading Multiversity.
Beautiful visual structures from Morrison & Quitely! A reader SHOULD have to work a bit from time to time to really enjoy a piece of art completely, not have it spoon-fed and simple.
A look at Denny O’Neil’s “Fables” trilogy from the annuals of DETECTIVE COMICS, GREEN ARROW and THE QUESTION would be kewl; looking at one writer’s work interpreted by three different art teams. 🖖♾
I think the mobius strip symbolises and Morrison’s thesis with this comic is that the industry has been endlessly repeating the ideas of Watchmen since the 80s
It would be interesting to see breakdowns of other books, like Kieran Gillen’s Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt, that are in as deep conversation with Watchmen as Pax Americana.
Damn, the feeling when the nice girls at my LCS ask me what Red Room is @ checkout.
It sounds reminiscent of the plot of "Tenet" with "inverted " objects moving through time. Or perhaps "Pax Americana" is inverted and traveled back to inspire "Tenet"?
it's way older than tenet
The kid was captain adam !
Time is the fire 'in which we burn' - was famously quoted in Star Trek : Generations, but is actually from a poem. Use of 'in which we burn' suggests the story is dealing with time. www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42633/calmly-we-walk-through-this-aprils-day
Damn. Shots fired at geoff johns lmao 6:15
Morrison, Moore, Quitely, Millar; all from the 2000AD stable.
If only 2000AD paid better and gave creators rights what a great comic it could be instead of scraping the bottom of the barrel dredging for plot-lines in the exhausted Dredd world.
Sometimes I get the impression that DC is going out of their way to make Alan Moore miserable with all these Watchmen/Watchmenesque comics. Here we have DC letting Morrison (who has traded barbs with Moore) do a postmortem on Watchmen with Charlton characters -- something that DC wouldn't allow Moore to do with his original pitch for Watchmen. I understand that the DC staff has changed drastically since the late '80s but it just strikes me as funny - not "haha" funny but more like Edward Blake-funny -- and then, on top of that, add Jim Lee's (who would've been co-publisher of Pax Americana and now pretty much runs DC comics) "strange" history with Moore -- you really can't make this shit up.
I agree completely.
They didn't do anything with the characters for years and years, despite the characters being probably profitable, but after so much time, and after offering Moore the rights back in exchange of him doing some more stories with them, and him refusing, and with changes in the staff over the years, it's normal they want to use the characters. And Moore being an influential writer as he is, some writers would want to revisit his work. He along Frank Miller deconstructed Superheroes, and later authors deconstructed them, it's logical.
Ed- is that girl with the batgirl mask in red room a reference to Enid in ghost world with her hat from Adams II?
Always thought through interviews Morrison and Moore are rivals.
Loved the story, it forever changed how I viewed the charlton heroes, and made me a bit sore over the “douchey captain America” line for John cent’s peacemaker.
Yeah
Why is it like watchman?
Oooh, its an 8 panel grid, instead of 9... zzzzzzzz
Doesn't Morrison ever get bored with latching on to Moore's work?
(Not trying to knock your video lads - its not your fault. Keep 'em coming)
Bro, even Moore latched onto others works. People always take inspiration from others, Watchmen was literally composed of Charlton knock-offs. And its disingenuous to act like he purely copies of Moore, as stuff like JLA: Earth-2, All-Star Superman and his Batman run are radically different from Moore's works.
This is riffing on Moore’s Promethea as much as Watchmen.
So Grant Morrison finally gets an original idea; let's put Promethea and Watchmen together!!!!