ASRock WRX80 Creator Motherboard Review
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This will be awesome for my use of Microsoft Office and occasional games of Solitaire
Wow wow wow...hold your horses there, Mr hardcore. You dot want to crash your Excell sheets.
Barely 😅
Solitaire? that end game animation is very heavy
@@wollinger I've seen Excel bring a machine to it's knees recalculating a workbook.
It would more awesome than 20k Mac pro used as background prop and occasional productivity..
Your videos are the reason my kids go barefoot and my wife's dresses are made from sack cloth. (Sack Cloth - Old man arcane reference to the use of old fertilizer bag cloth to make clothes.) By all means keep up the good work. My game scores are great!
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Great builds and discussion! Love this community, cheers Wendell
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please continue w threadripper pro and other high end ws cpu/board reviews! extremely helpful
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This is just a dream come true. For so long I’ve wanted a high end workstation/server board with built in thunderbolt. Now you can have it all. I can’t even imagine what’s in store for next generation ryzen hedt. Imagine being able to run 1-2tb of ddr5 with at least 4 a6000s or 3090ti/4090, a bunch of 8tb tlc pcie 5.0 nvme drives, and even pcie 4/5.0 u.2 nvme or optane drives. Or if you need a crap ton of storage, just so many 22tb hdds without even needing an add in card. At this point a multi booth recording studio would literally only need one computer to run everything. You could have multiple thunderbolt interfaces plugged in and record/edit all at the same time. Kinda ruins the need to have Mac.
I'm absolutely in love with this motherboard after two years of usage. Also I'm on 24 core because i wanted high single core boost clock AND i/o
The reason the 24 core makes sense for me is TH-cam content creation with the Adobe suite. Puget bench shows the 24 core outperforming or within margin-of-error of the 32 core in Premiere, After Effects and Photoshop, which are the three apps I use most often. Doesn't make sense to spend the extra $800 for the 32 core in this case. I could probably even get away with a 12900k from a performance standpoint, but I need the pcie lanes to host 30+ TB of gen 4 nvme raid and would really like 256gb of ram.
Couldn't you get away with a separate raid card?
@@Intelwinsbigly A raid card like the highpoint ssd7540 will let you access the nvme's (I will have have 12 m.2's and one Optane u.2 in my 5965wx system), but all the gen 4 raid cards so far bottleneck because they can only use 16 lanes. I will need 48 lanes for nvme alone and that's before gpu's and sata hdd's. Threadripper pro is the only desktop platform that has both those lanes and high workstation performance.
@@ChristianWheel aah, I see.
Well, enjoy paying the pro tax. I plan on waiting for Intel to get into hedt before starting my next workstation.
@@Intelwinsbigly and you assume you won't be paying the pro tax with Intel HEDT? Intel used to charge $2K for a rebranded 18-core Skylake not so long ago. The only chance Intel stands with their current architecture is if they undercut AMD's pricing. Don't believe they can deliver anything which won't require exotic cooling solutions for a 20+ perf. cores HEDT CPU as it will consume well over 500W.
@@ufsteropolstero6014 Wattage doesn't really matter when you put your PC in a grow tent.
As for the pro tax, I don't think intel's hedt will be in any way comparable to their pro-line of xeons in price.
Found this channel through the Broken Silicon Podcast. How the heck hasn't TH-cam recommended me your channel. I consume ridiculous amounts of PC hardware content.
Glad you found us! Welcome!!
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I happy for you though Wendel. You deserve to have VERY NICE THINGS!!! :D
The problem with EPYC single socket parts is the limited cTDP. The 24 core has a max settable package power of 200 W, and the Milan part could and would go faster if we could set it to 280. The 32 core is even more choked for power.
You can instead use the 32 core one with only 24 of them enabled, and PPT set to 400W.
@@erkinalp ?? None of the EPYC parts allow you to set a cTDP/PPT above 280W.
Goodness, and I thought my 9980XE pulled a lot of power LOL that power draw is absolutely insane and I love it
Out of stock in plenty of shops in UK. Greetings and all the best.
Storage beast! A network based Virtual Master machine. The kind of Unrecognizable Virtual machines VS bare metal possibility's. Crazy cool.
I've been trying to get one of these for weeks. Apparently there is a shortage of the LAN chips which is affecting production. I was told only 30 units are being delivered to Newegg this month and that's pretty much the whole US supply for now.
For anyone who happens to be reading this on Monday August 22, 2022, the allocation of 30 boards has arrived at NewEgg today and there are still some units left. Don't wait if you want one, grab it now.
get Asus Pro WRX80E Sage it's the best
@@Kingvoakahustla I have one! Unfortunately it will not support the overclocking features of Threadripper Pro 5000. I did end up getting one of the ASRocks and interestingly enough I get a measurable performance increase *at stock* on that board vs the Sage! I can't explain why yet.
@@ChristianWheel Sadly I'm looking for this board now and it's nowhere to be found.
@@2011blueman I'd suggest placing the backorder with NewEgg. They seem to get the new shipments of these near the end of the month. The price has also gone up $100 since I ordered mine in early August. :(
This thing so very much has my attention
Hi! I always watch your videos, they are unique and great and I want to really thank you for your work. Now, I have to ask: I'm budget limited but I would like a workstation PC; this motherboard under an "old entry level" 3955wx, even if only for one year or two first of an upgrade to a 5000 serie, has a sense? Yes? No? Has Trx40 a future? Thanks if you find some seconds for answer me.
what sort of idle power draw do you get with a few things just ticking over in the background? thanks
Thanks for the detailed video. It was very useful. I'm just buying this board and spec'ing components. What ECC Ram and Cooler are you using, do you recommend?
5:09 I didn't get that "Quad channel". It is "Octa channel", isn't it?
8 channel, yes
Yep typo oops
I'm so tempted but I'd so love to get the 5955 16 core model. Guess all went to Lenovo and are vendor locked... Might go for 3955 though. It would still be a notable improvement over my 1950..
Yes it would, my 2950 recently retired and a 3955 has taken over the workload until 5000 become more available.
@@davidmacdonald287 So even from 2950 to 3955, is it a noticeable difference?
Keep doing what you do!
I think the time has come and technology of pc is mature for manufactures to move in an apple like motherboard design with the installation of vga at the back of the board. It will move industry into a whole different dynamic and new designs, cooling solutions, cases, products etc.
Great economy of space and awesome design.
Hey Windle, I'm wondering if you have plans of installing Honey Badgers for storage?
I liked the part where coined a new term "RGBenis". I'll be using that from now on.
great vid but the mic level was low... really had to turn my tv up just to hear...
What's the thinking on Thunderbolt on WinPCs these days? Is it dying? Surprised to see two on this MOBO and not as an AIC.
It's becoming more mainstream bc of usb4
Interesting @@Level1Techs - we finally moved completely off Thunderbolt this year after probably a decade. It always seems to be an after thought with Threadripper boards as AICs and kludgy bios magic / patience. Perhaps that’s finally changing - cool.
I would not install Windows as the main OS on this kind of hardware. But even if I did build a Windows WS based on this MB, TB4 would be a clear advantage, both for storage, various docking stations, and for screens that woudl be attached directly. A PC that draws 1kW+ of power woudl benefit from being placed in another room, and TB4 might make it easier to connect everything in the office from which you work.
@@derekjcooper Thunderbolt has evolved over the past 10 years... by a lot. Far from an afterthought. Many laptops use it.
USB4 (yes, it's written as one word now) is coming into the market more and more!
From my understanding, USB4 can be Thunderbolt 3 (same feature set basically, and same bandwidth). I say "can be" because that's optional (the minimum is "just" 20 Gbps and no PCIe Tunneling). Thunderbolt 4 is basically "USB4 but almost all of the optional boxes are ticked, and more stringent validation by Intel".
So "Thunderbolt functionality" should become much more common, I think Microsoft also requires laptop manufacturers to provide at least one fully-featured USB4 port if they want to put Windows 11 on the device, going forward.
USB4 should also be cheaper to add for manufacturers than Thunderbolt was because they don't have to pay the licensing and validation fees to Intel, as far as I understand (Intel donated the Thunderbolt 3 spec to the USB-IF).
Also, I think in practice basically all USB4 ports that you can currently find on devices are 40Gbps and support all the Thunderbolt stuff because the only USB4 chips for ports currently out there have all that built in. (Not so for cables, be warned.) But don't rely on that please, double and triple check!
(Please read up on the details and nuances because there's a lot and I might have gotten some or a lot of the details wrong, oof.)
I get the feeling Wendell is a fan of ASRock, which if true, I would take as a high recommendation for my next MB purchase.
ive had several of them. they run forever and the only problems I've had is you can't turn the lights off. their rgb software has a high chance to blue screen you.
if you don't want or need a ton of features, i ran a biostar board for 8 years and never had a problem with it.
@@jmwintenn I've had gigabyte for the last 2 and had problems.
32 or 64 cores for pro minesweeper build?
Can the Dedicated IPMI (ASPEED AST2500) also be used as a "nomral" LAN inside the operating system? To use it for the local network and/or WAN ?
I'd really like one... but for now I am going to have to stick to my two 5950x's. I can shut one down if I don't need the power, and I still have a lot of PCIe lanes to share between them, and places to stick a big GPU in one, and lots and lots of storage bays in the other. But that board and the 32 core do seem like just the right fit for me and my big BeQuiet case. And now that winter's coming we could use the heat!
This is super cool and all , but i do miss old none pro threadripper HEDT type stuff. I miss the whole , its desktop but with just more bandwidth and more PCIe, have always used HEDT for my rigs.
hi there, I'm watching it in 2024, bought it as a chariot for 3945WX that I bought for $240. Cheap workstation for dev :)
Is this the 2.0? Also, does it take forever to boot as well?
Which motherboard is better or more catering. Is it the ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI II or the Asrock WRX80 Creator R2.0?
I always thought filling 8 DDR4 memory channel with single rank memory performed better than filling 4 DDR4 memory channels with dual rank because of the lack of required paging with dual rank.
Dual rank per channel seems to be optimal. Buildzoid talks about this.
What 512/128per stick RAM DDR4 do you recommend for the WRX80 Creator?
@ 15:39 yes! my dual 18 core intel gets 28,000 on this test. So we are living in the future I'd say. I still have my old mac twelve core from 2010. And that score at the bottom 6867 is close to 1/5th of my current machine. And this score of 56000 makes it 1/9 th as fast...LOL..thats crazy.
The reason lower core count cpus make sense is for software were you are licensed per core. In the scientific space there are a load of software products that are linked to the total number of cpu cores you have>
Some apps do not let you limit it to just run on a limited number of cores based on your license, they will check the number of cores in the cpu and enforce you having a license of that many cores, so your only option is to then run the app in a VM if the app even permits this on your license, apps that do core based licensing also charge different rates to run in a VM commonly (higher rates).
What apps with per core licensing fees don't have an open source free alternative?
@@2011blueman Lots and lots if you are in industry were your clients require you to use that for compliance reasons.
The ability to use open source free alternatives is much harder than you might think once you step into industries were you need multiple levels of certification. And unless you want to pay for that certification (costly lots) the only option is to take an off the self solution that has already been certified. Be that handling card details, or controle systems, sure you could get the open source solution certified but that will take years of paperwork and will make it close to impossible to pull any changes from it (without spending $$ on each change to re-certify it).
Much simpler (even if you need to pay per core) to use an already approved product (these products form a feature perspective are almost always worce as they know they do not need to compete on features they compete based on the size of thier legal compliance teams..!)
@@hishnash That's a long-winded non-answer.
Can you hide cores from the app or does the app see the cpu and then see all the "real" cores?
@ In a VM yes but not bare metal.
I am actually making a config for a storage server and wold like to get a 12 core TR :D Anything beyond that is money thrown away.
It lists the u.2 port as pcie 3.0 on the schematics, and that would be ridiculous because it would be the only board for this platform with a slower u.2 port. Is that a typo? Or is this the trade off for thunderbolt?
Did you delve any deeper on this?
I've a 3970 it's all good except for one thing, if I max it out it over heats reaching 99 to 101 degrees steady state. It's liquid cooled using a corsair aio cooler. I'm tempted to upgrade but it's only two years old so I think I'll skip at least one generation. This sure seems nice though.
I’m looking for a board to run hyper V with remote management, not sure if the thread ripper pro would be overkill for that env. I checked out the AsRock Rack X470D4U last night.. any suggestions? Ty
How many users and VMs will be on it? Spec your system to your needs, not the other way around
@@ocelotxp Thanks!! Good point. At least 3VM’s & only one user. (Myself) Home lab env…
@@tonebaxter I would think 5950 is more than enough?
@@LA-MJ Ty, that’s definitely a lot cheaper than the 24 & 32 core cpus I’ve been eyeing… I just want to set up some virtual nodes for crypto solo mining…
@Сусанна Серге́евна You guys are awesome!!! Ty!!! I thought I needed 8 cores per instance so apparently I need to do more research. I’ve only worked with Oracles virtual box on my old Win laptop in the past… I’m glad that I asked… lol…
@13:39 "I don't know - I like woodgrain"
*LGR intensifies*
I wouldn't mind thix board + Threadripper PRO 5965WX + 256GB RAM for my new WS, since I do 3D rendering and also started to teach myself Premiere Pro I need a beefier system than my current 8700K and 32GB RAM.
Can you recommend an appropriate 128gb or 256gb ECC ram kit for this board?
This is a motherboard I have waited for ever since I laid my hands on Asus X99-E WS/3.1 that I still use up to this day. I kinda wish though that there was a budget CPU for this socket... I don't really need 32 cores, 8 fast ones is more than enough for my needs but holy shit I do need them PCI-E lanes and sockets. I was really hoping that with new socket AM5 Ryzens would finally get more PCI-E lanes but apparently we can't have a nice things and as it stands Ryzen is dead to me until potentially AM6. Threadripper Pro meets my needs but the cost is outlandish :/ also holy shit, finally motherboard with onboard Thunderbolt that doesn't suck in every other way otherwise... anyone wants to buy a kidney?
OK, that was fun, now back to deal-hunting a used LGA2011-3 server.
Do you think this would be a good base for building a DAW? I’m currently running a 5950x system, could DAW run on linux
Is there a port on the motherboard to power the CPU? Or does the motherboard itself power the CPU? I just bought one of these creator motherboards and I'm in the process of assembling it!
CPUs are powered through the socket. A lot of the pins are for power not data.
Not that it really matters, but how the heck do you get 7.1 audio out of this motherboard? It's only got three 3.5mm outputs (center/sub, FR/FL, RR/RL) and TOSLINK out. Afaik, TOSLINK can only handle 5.1 compressed audio like DTS or DD, or stereo PCM, it can't handle any of the 7.1 compressed or uncompressed formats. Are they just assuming you'd use the HDMI output for a graphics card? I always assumed that bypassed the on-board audio. I'm guessing mic in or line in is swapped to CL/CR?
Are LRDIMMs (100%) supported? Cant see it in the specs :-(
"you're a wizard, you know what you're doing". HA! I used this motherboard in my first PC build ever with the 32 core threadripper pro.
Is PBO only supported on the Threadripper Pro 5000WX Series or also with the 3000WX Series on this board?
Seems likely.
I bought the board and tested it with a 3955WX and the PBO BIOS/UEFI entry is not available. So this is only available for the 5000WX Series.
Excellent video!
Wifi is a good idea if you carry your workstation with you.
Can I use a OWC 64TB Accelsior 8M2 Eight NVMe M.2 to PCle card on my WXR80 motherboard
Seems like there is Revision 2.0 on the market which replaces 10GBase-T Intel X710 AT with Aquantia NICs. Sadly the Aquantia NICs wont support SR-IOV.
what's the ram name that you use it ?
Would it be a good idea to buy the 12 core version only for gaming just because has a lot of L3 cash?
Not worth it just for cache. The board itself is 1 thousand us dollars, plus some thousand more for cpu alone.
It's a shame Aspeed don't have a workstation variant with a hdmi output!
Office monitors have moved on and all the boring dell desktop PCs here even use Displayport, so outside of the server room, finding VGA isn't guaranteed anymore.
I am currently assembling my build list for deep learning, thinking to use this motherboard, but I am still thinking about which cooler to use. I am not super interested in water, since there will be periods where I'm traveling for 1-2 months and the system will run at home while I access its power remotely, so I am thinking of some kind of air cooler; Right now I am using a BeQuiet DarkRock TR4 on my 1st gen Threadripper system this will replace and really like how silent it is, but as far as I know there aren't really official WRX80 coolers?
There was an official Coolermaster for first gen one but it was meh tbh. Im not aware of one for the Pro series but the mounting points and everything else are the same AFAIK
You should be able to install a Noctua NHD14 or some kind of. The mounting mechanism is the same, if I remember correctly.
@@Patrick-oi9lj Just has to fit with all the other stuff on the motherboard 😅
Try the noctua nhu14-s tr4 sp3. A great performer for threadripper. Another option is the enermax liqtech Ii tr4 aio which will perform even a bit better. It had some bad production problems but hoping those are fixed now? If you're going to mount your system horizontally then the ice giant prosyphon is worth a look. But that won't work in a traditional case with threadripper pro.
I am looking at epyc. But I want to run my general ram that I have on my desktop series system.
great video 😀
But do they have an STI version?
What is alternative mobo for ddr5 ?
I am getting a 4F error on my board after a reboot. Can anyone help me with this?
Good job there.
What happened to this video? I was expecting to learn more about the AS Rock board vs Gigabyte vs Asus.
Threadripper Pro has dual socket compatibility. Imagine 10 PCIE 4.0 x 16 lanes. Thats a lot of GPUs dude.
The ASUS WRX80 board supports full PCIE lanes for all slots, why is this ASRock board short some lanes? Seems this board tho has all 8 SATA on one controller. In contrast, the Asus WRX80 SAGE has four SATA on an ASMedia controller that is defective (multiple people can't get it to work in several versions of Linux).
I'm upgrading to TR 5995 WX so force me update to latest bios that make Debian based distro stop working. Any solution for Debian based distro can boot using latest BIOS?
Of the missing 16 lanes from the two x8 slots, four of them are used by the TB4 controller which runs on x4. I have no clue where the remaining 12 went, though; maybe there's some dedicated to that 8 port SATA controller. There's also an extra 1G jack that uses at least another x1 on the rear.
is ReBAR supported on this board?
Yep ofc
I can't wait to find out how much power a 5995wx uses with pbo enabled lol
so, I wanna have enough power , speed and connectivity to run a bunch of tracks in audio production with the storage and Ram to operate a stack of orchestral samples,, not millions just a stack. so,, what the basic component config for audio on this system, Ramm min 256gb? single processor? Thunderbolt ?3000 5000?? can someone please talk audio,,, once in a while??
Let's be honest, Epyc is always the better choice. Threadripper Pro is for people who want to indulge in an expensive piece of hardware they can sit next to.
Hmm 64 Cores, maybe quite on the low end when using gentoo ^_^
There will come the day, where I will own one of those beauties, in addition with 7 x RTX 4090 Cards. ;)
overclocking on TR pro? change my mind
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Can you build.
Can you cover a mobo build for Revit/CAD work stations..
Example we have a team of 10 Drafters. WE NEED works stations to handle (3) 1.3GB .rvt files at once.
We have .rvt on servers in office and we have .rvt files on cloud technology. Autodesk Build aka ACC.
again. What would be the BEST work station for Revit models/projects.
Been waiting for it, be never seen you cover the CAD works rigs.
looking forward
Revit thrives with higher frequency CPU's, so your best bet will be a 12900KS.
For large projects like that, you might as well go for 128GB DDR5 RAM.
Nice fast SSD for storage and a RTX 3080 and you should be good.
You can go higher or lower in the GPU department depending on if you are going to use visualization programs like Twinmotion, Enscape or Lumion.
Can You load 2TB of RAM in to this Board?
yes but not recommended for stability.
@@JayzBeerz thank You, what is the max you would recommend?
Last month I bought a new motherboard from Asrock "Asrock wrx80 creator" after I bought it the screws of the motherboard were broked I tried to use Glue to can fix it but also not fixed, I sent it to the maintenance center in Shanghai but they refused to repair it even I pay them maintenance fees because they said it's human damage, I told them not human damage it's bad Quality of your products but they refused to send me a new one or repair it if the main maintenance of Asrock refuses to repair their products who will repair it?!, the quality of this motherboard really is extremely bad
all the cores
Motherboard plus 32/64 or 64/128 Core make only sens for Work
and in my math needs one core today around 2GB/ 4GB RAM so we land by 256GB up to 512GB Ram basic but max out RAM on this CPU sounds the best.
But.. 700watts CPU only.. your RTX 30 series turn its color.. from Red to freezing blue..
Wait the 24 core is 4 chiplets? Lol I have gone a few years thinking AMD 24 cores was 3 8 core chiplets.
I can't afford this why am I watching.
I would buy Arsrock if their PCB wasn't crap. The main PC shop won't even stock them anymore stating they got too many returns.
Too many returns of this motherboard? Or any ASRock's mobos?
Even Intel clicked on like.
Woot!
I suppose bloatware is no longer a concern lol
yes make my threadripper gen 1 DREAM parts even cheaper.
I can switch to this platform in a couple years, haha.
Now its not 3 slots😁😁😁
Woops, graphic at 5:10 shows "quad channel" memory lol
I have to agree, there is no real point to overclocking memory or CPU in a system like this. It is overkill at stock settings. It would be interesting to put some 3600-3800 memory in it, underclocked to 3200 and see how far you can drop the CAS Latency though.
no need to be scared of extra performance if its stable. The chiplet design lends itself to fairly stable overclocking vs older monolithic chips. And you're spending $$$ might as well get it all.
@@lalPOOO It is a professional workstation, not a gaming rig.
@@BansheeBunny yea, so for a professional workstation every bit of performance translates directly to $ in your pocket via time saved. Same reason I still overclock Quadro cards.
@@lalPOOO So you're going to risk stability issues and potential loss of work ($ in your pocket) for an uplift that is within the margin of error.
@@BansheeBunny yes, it's totally worth it if you can get it stable. Also depends what you're doing with it.
Actually it would be 6 chiplets.
Where's my 5995WX3D
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Oh my God Subaru actually made her motherboard. Lol Hope you guys get the joke
I don't care about ECC propaganda on principal. Are there performance benchmarks around different memory kits?
I have an ethusiast build at home (which is getting old with a 3950 and 128GB), but I'm also managing a lot of AWS infra that would cost my company about $10M per 25h of downtime. For my home build, I don't care about the ECC, but for my workplace servers, I DO care about the uptime.
For some TR pro setups, maybe you don't need to care, but for most people that actually do a TR Pro setup, I suspect that they want to maximize the uptime%.
@@haakoflo I'm versed well enough to know and understand pros and cons. I just want the benchmarks to be able to make a determination on risk/benefit for myself. Is that allowed?
ECC is not propaganda... learn how hardware works, please
@@ocelotxp Do you have any reading comprehension? Can't you understand context? Propaganda was used as a description on pushy behavior towards hardware selection by the audience.
Maybe you should go install some ECC in your brain, you seem to be experiencing some neuron rot.
It's not propaganda. It's sometimes the reason why rebooting solves issues . And if you have high stakes to be sued over...
ASRock Ditches Intel Ethernet, Cuts Price of Threadripper Pro Motherboard by $356
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